The Candice Malcolm Show - March 10, 2023


Fake News Friday ｜ Legacy media won’t back off MPs meeting Christine Anderson

Topics
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Candice Malcolm
Mentioned
Pierre Poilievre Trudeau Paul Langlois Christine Anderson Sue-Ann Levy Kristen Coots Gord Downey Omar Al-Gabra Tragically Hip Newt Gingrich Dean Allison Colin Carey Karima Saad Blackface Andrew SoCan Jesse
Fake News Friday ｜ The CBC buries coverage on interference Fake News Friday ｜ CBC brags about its “award-winning Canadian creators”

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18 minutes

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2,846

Sentence count

156

Harmful content

Misogyny

23

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Toxicity

9

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Hate speech

13

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It's Fake News Friday, which means it's time for another episode of No Pants Off Friday! This week, host Andrew Yang and his co-host Sue Anne Levy are joined by special guest Andrew Peters ( ) to discuss the Trudeau government's handling of the Blackface scandal, as well as the media's double standard when it comes to racism and anti-Semitism.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to you all. It is Friday, March 10th, 2023.
00:00:13.860 Another week has come and gone, which means it is time for Fake News Friday.
00:00:19.420 Nothing fake about our analysis, but we harangue those who are fostering the hurricanes of deception.
00:00:26.160 We swim through the whirlpools of verbal wizardry that occur, and I'm just making up these adjectives now, and I'm right out of them.
00:00:34.000 So let's just introduce my loyal and fantabulous co-host, fantastic Never a Fabulous, Sue-Anne Levy.
00:00:41.160 Sue-Anne, how was the week? And I will add to that happy, belated International Women's Day to you.
00:00:46.840 Oh my God, I actually decided I'm going trans because of International Women's Day.
00:00:53.180 And maybe I can get more recognition as a woman if I become a trans.
00:00:57.760 So can you imagine a trans woman who's actually a lesbian, but really is a woman?
00:01:04.260 I mean, I'm totally confused, Andrew.
00:01:06.160 There was a story years ago in the Washington Post about a lesbian couple somewhere in the U.S. who, one of them transitioned to male, and they were upset that all of their gay friends now just saw them as a regular old straight couple because one was a man and one was a woman.
00:01:23.480 So you can actually, like, over-diversify your way out of being diverse, apparently. 0.76
00:01:27.940 Oh my God, I rely on that oppression intersectionality of being a lesbian. 1.00
00:01:33.880 So I'm not leaving that, you know, that niche that I have created.
00:01:38.420 Well, I hope you felt significantly fetid as a woman, at least for the time being, on International Women's Day. 1.00
00:01:44.900 Let's get into the mainstream media and their perseverance, I will say, in crafting a narrative and trying to flog that narrative like a dead horse.
00:01:54.700 One of them is that the Conservatives are these evil, hateful, right-wing Nazi apologists for a few MPs meeting with the German member of the European Parliament, Christine Anderson, a few weeks back.
00:02:06.400 And Pierre Palievre has now been asked about this time and time again. 0.79
00:02:10.260 And he was in this one press conference and they just wouldn't lay off him about it.
00:02:14.480 Take a look.
00:02:15.300 We are imposing consequences on members of your caucus who met with Christine Anderson, whose views yourself said were vile.
00:02:22.100 Well, I think right now what I'm more concerned about is the vile and racist views of the Prime Minister, who after over half of, if I could, if I could, over half of his adult life,
00:02:34.240 he's dressed up in vile, racist costumes so many times that he cannot remember them all.
00:02:41.180 It's such an odd and pointed question.
00:02:43.340 How are you going to kick them out of caucus?
00:02:45.840 It's almost as though they're lobbying for that to happen.
00:02:49.400 Yeah, well, you know that the legacy media has ceased to be reporters.
00:02:55.000 They're repeaters and they are, they've become lobbyists on behalf of the Trudeau government.
00:03:01.360 And much of them, of course, many of them being on the payroll of the Trudeau government, in particular, CBC.
00:03:08.880 So, I mean, why should we be surprised?
00:03:11.480 Yeah, and I think that, you know, the line that I've used on the show in the past and on my own show is that when the media goes after the liberals,
00:03:18.300 it's for not living up to what a liberal is supposed to be in their view.
00:03:21.820 When they go after conservatives, it's for being conservatives.
00:03:24.600 It's for believing the things that they believe.
00:03:27.260 And in this particular case, even if Pierre Polyev were to say, yep, you know, absolutely, we're going to kick out Lesley Lewis and Dean Allison and Colin Carey,
00:03:34.200 it wouldn't make the problem go away.
00:03:36.720 You would just give them an ounce of flesh and they'd keep on looking for more.
00:03:40.560 Yes, they're never going to be content. 0.99
00:03:42.900 And, you know, the hypocrisy, it just reeks of hypocrisy. 0.89
00:03:46.060 Because, you know, we've seen so many times when Trudeau or one of his cabinet members, highly placed cabinet members, 0.86
00:03:53.620 members have met with suspect people.
00:03:56.600 And, you know, just recently there was a whole group of people, Omar Al-Khabra and some of the MPs, 0.73
00:04:03.860 meeting with Palestinian terrorists, like anti-Semites on Parliament Hill with Palestinian terrorists.
00:04:11.420 And, you know, there was very little coverage of that.
00:04:16.160 It kind of went and happened and then it blew away, which it often does with the legacy media.
00:04:22.660 But, I mean, I'm getting very frustrated with the absolute double standard of how they cover Pierre Polyev versus, you know,
00:04:31.580 I guess their handout master.
00:04:34.500 What did you think of how Polyev tried to turn it around on them and basically say,
00:04:39.880 you want to talk about racism, let's talk about Prime Minister Blackface. 0.85
00:04:43.040 Do you think that was an immature low blow or is that how you have to play the game now?
00:04:47.600 You know, that's the way I play it.
00:04:50.280 Because I always say that, you know, there is a double standard.
00:04:54.280 And I think, you know, and they like to use that word, whataboutism.
00:04:58.180 You're just engaging in whataboutism because they can't handle the truth.
00:05:01.560 But the point is that there is a terrible double standard.
00:05:05.960 So maybe it comes across as immature to some.
00:05:08.960 But the whole thing is that he's not, Trudeau is not judged on anything to the degree that Polyev is. 0.93
00:05:18.260 Relatively minor things.
00:05:20.060 Whereas, you know, I've lost count of the many, many issues that Trudeau has gotten a free pass on.
00:05:26.140 Yeah, and when you talk about minor issues, that actually feeds into this next story here,
00:05:31.820 which I will say is probably one of the most Polyev derangement syndrome affirming stories we could come up with. 0.98
00:05:38.180 So there's apparently this Canadian band called The Tragically Hip, which everyone in Canada likes and no one outside of Canada has ever heard of.
00:05:44.600 And, you know, again, I know what it is.
00:05:46.200 I could probably name three of their songs and not sure if I could pluck any of them out of a lineup except for the late Gord Downie.
00:05:52.400 But Pierre Polyev, keeping with Canadian content, which we're supposed to be celebrating and having more and more of,
00:05:59.320 at one of his events in the background, it wasn't like his stage entrance song or anything.
00:06:04.220 He wasn't doing it like Eye of the Tiger and Newt Gingrich walking into CPAC.
00:06:08.420 They had in the background a song called 50 Mission Cap by The Tragically Hip.
00:06:13.900 And it was Karima Saad, the independent journalist and lawyer that had tweeted a clip and mentioned this.
00:06:20.800 And then the guitarist for The Tragically Hip, Paul Langlois, tweeted out that it was highly offensive, if true, highly offensive, that Pierre Polyev was using their song.
00:06:32.800 Then they, of course, found out that because the event was being held at a venue that is registered with SOCAN,
00:06:37.460 which is the licensing agency for music, and if you book an event there, you pay a SOCAN licensing fee that lets you pay all of these songs.
00:06:44.940 It was entirely fine. It was entirely legitimate. They could play the song.
00:06:49.480 And then the langlois actually sort of backed up.
00:06:52.600 And he said, well, you know, we would like it if people sought our approval, but we weren't sure about the specifics.
00:06:59.800 No, they stepped in it.
00:07:00.880 They absolutely did. And, you know, I think Tragically Hip, what have you heard about them lately?
00:07:06.220 I mean, we heard a lot about them when poor guy, Gord Downey, was dying of brain cancer.
00:07:12.140 But what have we heard from them lately?
00:07:14.960 And I would be, you know, if I were a member of the Tragically Hip, and I'm no longer Tragically Hip because I'm a boomer.
00:07:23.400 I'm just tragic. I've never been hip.
00:07:25.800 Tragically hip.
00:07:26.480 But I would be happy that I got some publicity.
00:07:30.160 My goodness.
00:07:30.920 I always thought in this business there is no negative publicity.
00:07:34.400 Just celebrate the fact that your name is being mentioned.
00:07:37.600 And, you know, to lose your lunch over it, to get crazed about it.
00:07:42.760 I mean, it just, this is the world we're living in right now.
00:07:47.420 And it's not a good world.
00:07:49.640 Yeah, and it's kind of an odd one here when he's saying that they want permission for people to play their music.
00:07:57.840 No, when you register with SoCan and allow your song to be played at SoCan facilities,
00:08:02.920 you have decided that you'll just take the money of whomever is going to play your song,
00:08:07.400 and you don't really get any oversight on that.
00:08:10.020 And there was this little kind of snippy exchange between someone else who said to Paul Langlois,
00:08:15.200 oh, am I allowed to play it while I'm working alone baking?
00:08:17.800 And Paul just says, no, you're not allowed.
00:08:19.980 And someone said, I'm having a party next weekend.
00:08:21.900 Can I play your music for my guests?
00:08:23.800 And he says, yes, thanks for asking, but you don't have to.
00:08:26.700 So now all of a sudden, no one knows if in Paul Langlois' eyes, you're allowed to play the Tragically Hip.
00:08:33.460 So I think we all have to, just in the interest of being cautious, of being abundantly cautious,
00:08:38.720 not play the Tragically Hip.
00:08:40.180 We don't want to offend the sensibilities of the guitarist.
00:08:43.160 I'm not playing any Tragically Hip songs, you know, anywhere in my house, okay?
00:08:49.040 Because he may find out that I'm a conservative, and he doesn't like conservatives playing his songs.
00:08:54.780 But, you know, this speaks to the absolute derangement of people who don't like Pierre Polyev.
00:09:02.500 He didn't even check into what the situation was.
00:09:05.720 He just reacted emotionally to a tweet without even doing his homework or research,
00:09:11.760 and then, you know, stepped in it and then had to back off.
00:09:14.740 And, you know, all you can do is laugh.
00:09:18.360 Indeed.
00:09:18.960 And one thing that is no laughing matter at CBC is their diversity unto death approach,
00:09:25.840 where you have to have all of the boxes checked if you are this religion, this ethnicity,
00:09:31.300 this sexual orientation, this level of ability or disability.
00:09:35.060 They want to know so that they can have all of these diversity quotients.
00:09:38.760 Well, CBC staff were, according to an article in the National Post,
00:09:42.580 rather shocked to find that all of these confidential diversity things they were filling out in one survey
00:09:49.160 ended up stored in their online HR files.
00:09:53.000 So the employees were putting in their sexual orientation, their gender identity,
00:09:57.600 and all of a sudden they appeared in their online human resources profiles
00:10:01.920 when they thought they were just filling out confidential diversity surveys.
00:10:06.580 And, you know, I don't think you should be that surprised,
00:10:08.600 because if your company is reducing everything down to these top-level identities,
00:10:13.420 of course they care enough about these to put them in your HR files.
00:10:17.420 Yes, exactly. 0.98
00:10:18.380 I mean, you can't sort of suck and blow at the same time. 0.99
00:10:22.660 You want the job, you get the job, 0.99
00:10:24.440 because you're a member of an oppressed group.
00:10:30.780 I'm using the activist language.
00:10:33.100 You're, you know, you're diverse.
00:10:35.660 You have intersecting, how many words can I throw out this afternoon?
00:10:42.740 Intersecting identities.
00:10:44.420 But then it shows up as part of your human resources file.
00:10:48.260 Well, hey, that's how you probably got the job or got to keep the job or helped you get the job.
00:10:54.620 I mean, that's the way the world is these days in various institutions.
00:10:58.400 Not that this is CBC, but I see it as school boards as well.
00:11:01.720 You know, if you're a member of an oppressed group, you get a jump on other people.
00:11:06.000 It's a sad reality.
00:11:07.740 But what did they expect?
00:11:09.680 Yeah, one employee said they felt it was a betrayal of trust,
00:11:13.360 because they thought this was just going to be purely statistical data.
00:11:16.660 CBC spokesperson has said, yeah, but it is strictly confidential,
00:11:19.660 and only a few people have access to it.
00:11:22.240 And the survey was voluntary.
00:11:24.120 If an employee wanted to do the cultural census,
00:11:27.300 they can see their own answers,
00:11:28.660 but their supervisor doesn't have access to the information.
00:11:30.940 So, you know, look, I think the whole point is that when we start breaking down
00:11:34.780 identity into these different categories,
00:11:37.740 the overlapping identities, the intersecting identities, racial, sexual,
00:11:41.600 like, you know, why does it matter if you are of a particular sexual orientation at work?
00:11:46.600 I mean, unless you're trying to run the CBC internal dating app,
00:11:49.920 I don't think it really matters if someone is straight or gay.
00:11:52.320 Oh, come on. 0.87
00:11:53.360 Most people probably know these days.
00:11:55.640 What's the big deal?
00:11:56.840 I mean, it wasn't like back in my day in the 90s when I had to live in the closet,
00:12:01.520 because I thought it was a, you know, career limiting to be a lesbian in the workforce 1.00
00:12:07.360 and a conservative paper.
00:12:09.640 It's a totally different world now.
00:12:12.160 I think they're just finding things to complain about.
00:12:15.940 Maybe they're not busy enough.
00:12:17.540 Maybe there are too many people going out on a story all at once.
00:12:20.640 Yeah, that's my question is how much time was spent and how much money was spent on the
00:12:25.640 CBC cultural consensus or cultural census or whatever they're calling it.
00:12:30.260 There are some areas, though, that are insufficiently diverse to some people.
00:12:34.380 One of those is the construction business.
00:12:37.420 An op-ed in the Toronto Star written by a woman named Kristen Coots says,
00:12:43.320 we need more women in construction. 1.00
00:12:46.160 Now, I don't know how many women there are in construction, 1.00
00:12:48.180 but I do know that any construction project I've ever had around my own home has had all-male 1.00
00:12:53.160 crews, and most construction sites you drive by or walk by have all-male. 0.67
00:12:58.120 Not always, but there is fairly consistently a dearth of women in the construction business. 1.00
00:13:03.240 And what Kristen Coots says is that she's getting, it's getting tiring and predictable
00:13:07.440 to see middle-aged white men wearing a t-shirt, jeans, construction boots, and sunglasses
00:13:12.320 strutting out of people's homes after putting in a half day with no confirmation on when they're
00:13:17.220 coming back.
00:13:18.200 It's infuriating.
00:13:19.220 She says construction is a playground for men.
00:13:22.680 And she makes the point that male contractors are ripping women off. 1.00
00:13:27.860 She talks about getting screwed by a plumber.
00:13:30.800 I think there are some unscrupulous contractors that will just as.
00:13:47.220 Not a bit.
00:13:58.320 And, you know, by very sheer fact that, you know, it's like the firefighting business or
00:14:04.160 being a firefighter.
00:14:05.960 There are very few women who are firefighters. 1.00
00:14:08.180 Why?
00:14:09.140 Because, I mean, the reality is that men have, you know, are able to lift and run into tall
00:14:15.860 buildings, lifting hoses, wearing 40, 50, 60 pounds of equipment.
00:14:20.820 And women just physically are not able to do that. 1.00
00:14:24.840 The same thing with construction.
00:14:26.680 There are certain tasks in construction that women are just not capable of doing physically. 1.00
00:14:32.780 Having said that, you know, there I've seen women. 0.99
00:14:37.660 I live in Toronto, very close to the LRT, unfortunately, too close to the LRT boondoggle,
00:14:46.700 the agricultural cost town.
00:14:48.440 And I've seen women on the job site. 1.00
00:14:51.640 But again, there are physical limitations to women. 1.00
00:14:55.640 And I dare say she didn't think this through.
00:14:58.480 And I also would say that she didn't really get any statistics.
00:15:02.620 This was all anecdotal.
00:15:04.160 I don't recall her saying, well, I looked at Stats Canada, there are X number of women 0.87
00:15:08.720 in construction.
00:15:10.380 But I think that for the certain jobs, like being a plumber or even electrician, I mean,
00:15:16.820 those are jobs that women can do. 1.00
00:15:28.480 That and I think that she doesn't really work. 0.94
00:15:31.940 The whole thing with that was she playing withерж Jesse, who you know,
00:15:36.080 I know.
00:15:37.300 I think, well, there we go, we go up.
00:15:50.040 Now, if we get an jinx, so we taste the cowboy and the French design team. 0.86
00:15:55.720 yes exactly and I think because of the physical limitations and I think that women um you know 1.00
00:16:12.420 it's it's a dirty business and you know a lot of women just choose not to do it I don't think 1.00
00:16:19.260 for a minute that they're being excluded from construction business in fact I know in major
00:16:26.020 cities across Canada there's a dearth of construction workers and if women wanted to do 1.00
00:16:30.260 it they need them um but again I mean can you see women lifting heavy piping or I don't know going 1.00
00:16:38.020 out and you know uh the scaffolding up high you know 60 70 feet high um they just probably choose
00:16:47.360 not to do it
00:16:48.200 well I'll leave that but I
00:17:18.200 can't screw in a nail so I'm actually and my wife is very very good she is so handy it's
00:17:24.000 unbelievable so you know we should we should tell the lady who wrote this article that there are
00:17:29.780 women who actually do things around the house and are very handy 1.00
00:17:48.200 women who do�um who do things around the house and they're not going to do it I'm gonna relying 1.00
00:18:05.040 here we should know that everything goes
00:18:07.100 up in a minute
00:18:07.620 you