Fake News Friday ｜ Poilievre Derangement Syndrome returns with a VENGEANCE
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In this week's Fake News Friday, Andrew Lawton and Harrison Faulkner take a look back at the past week, and look ahead to the week to come. Plus, a liberal heckler heckles Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
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It is Friday, September 16th, and you know what that means.
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Yes, my friends, this is Andrew Lawton, joined as always by my colleague and host of Ratioed on True North, Harrison Faulkner.
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Harrison, we gaze back upon another week that was.
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Well, my take on it, I think, Andrew, is one we'll be talking about on the show, and it's just the overwhelming, I don't even know if you could call it a meltdown, or you want to call it this sort of rush to paint Paul Yev, the new conservative leader, as something that the media want him to.
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But it's been quite the spectacle, I have to say, this week.
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Yeah, we were doing, Harrison and I, alongside our colleague Sue-Anne Levy and Elie Kenton Nantel and Jasmine Moulton and the whole team, last Saturday, a conservative leadership results show where we were documenting in real time and commenting on the results of the conservative leadership.
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And at the very beginning of the show, I asked Harrison and I asked Sue-Anne, I said, what is it you're watching for tonight?
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And I was thinking, they would say, oh, you know, I'm curious about how Jean Charest does in a bit to be to Miscaming, or, well, you know, I'm curious how Leslie Lewis does in Calgary Centre.
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But no, Harrison said, you know, I'm looking for the mainstream media freakouts, and don't we have a show packed full of them just six days after that?
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Let's start off with, I think, the overarching one here.
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We're going to be talking about the Pierre Polyev derangement syndrome a lot over the course of this episode, because there has been, I think, a big freakout of it.
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Now that it's gone from Pierre Polyev, the leadership candidate, to Pierre Polyev, the candidate for prime minister, as he says, there are some people in the parliamentary press gallery that don't seem too pleased by it.
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Now, I know this has happened a few days ago, but I think it's revealing of the dynamic at play here.
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Here is Pierre Polyev's first time stepping before the media as the leader of the Conservatives.
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Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I appreciate your presence here today.
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Thank you very much. I'm being heckled here by the...
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Justin Trudeau is out of touch, and Canadians are out of money.
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The cost of government is driving up the cost of living.
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A half a trillion dollars of inflationary deficits have bid up the cost of the goods we buy and the interest that Canadians pay.
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The cost for workers and businesses to produce the goods that we buy.
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On top of that, Trudeau proposes yet more spending to bid up costs even further.
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Their homes, and to buy a home in the very first place.
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So, I mean, we have basically a liberal heckler who snuck in here today.
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I'm the chief political correspondent for that organization.
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You may remember me from the guy who actually reported first on the prime minister breaking the law.
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I've never, I've actually never seen you heckling the prime minister.
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I've never seen you heckling the prime minister.
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I'm going to take some questions at the end of this statement.
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Ah, yes, and the liberal heckler there, David Akin, has since apologized for that exchange.
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The reason I wanted to play that to really set the stage here is because this has now triggered,
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I guess in more ways than one, but it's triggered a bunch of other responses
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from mainstream media journalists that we're going to get to over the course of today.
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But the big one is this idea that Pierre Pollyev is this evil, big, scary, mean populist.
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This is like the word of the day this week for most of these journos, isn't it?
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And I think we're starting to see this strategy from the media appear now.
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It's been a few days, as you said, and they've had some time to let the result sink in.
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And I think what we're starting to see, Andrew, and we'll get to this with the reaction from
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the other journalists to that clip we just saw, but what I think we're starting to see
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is the media have realized their attempt at trying to paint Pollyev as this divisive figure
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that is appealing to the fringes of Canadian politics hasn't worked, right?
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That's obvious because of the result that he had in the election, the leadership election,
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the overwhelming majority of points going his way.
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So the new strategy, I think, Andrew, from the media is to say that when Pollyev goes at
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the media, when Pollyev sort of returns the favor to the media, it's him demonizing the media.
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The new strategy, I think, is to, from these journalists, we're starting to see is to make
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And when they realize that their attempts at trying to paint Pollyev as this divisive figure
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So yeah, I think we're starting to see a new strategy come from the media.
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And if that was the first go at it, Andrew, then I think maybe that's a harbinger of what's
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to come with Pollyev press pool in Ottawa relations.
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Yeah, I mean, Aaron Weary, who's a big CBC politics guy, said that this is the arrival
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of, quote, 21st century populism in Canada, the internet-fueled, resentment-driven wave
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that has already flooded American and British politics.
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So he's not coming out and saying it, but he's like, this guy's Trump, this guy's Boris
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This was also at the core of this really, really bizarro Theo Moudakis cartoon in the Toronto
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star, which you can take a look at on the screen there.
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It's like, I'm kind of even having trouble describing it.
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It's like Donald Trump is calling Pierre Pollyev and Pierre Pollyev is looking or squinting
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at the bondage dungeon he has in his basement where he keeps Patrick Brown and Aaron O'Toole
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So the Pollyev bondage dungeon has Jean Charest and Aaron O'Toole and Patrick Brown and it's
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I mean, you just throw every cliche out of it and hope that one of them sticks.
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So where he's basically doing that, the Pollyev is just this carbon copy of this thing that
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you're always supposed to see and hate in these other countries.
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But what I'm going to hone in on is resentment-driven.
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I think this presupposes that there's something wrong with resenting the state of affairs in
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this country when people have been left behind.
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And I actually fundamentally reject that premise.
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I think there are some people that are completely within their right to be resentful of a society
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in which they've not been able to get ahead, a society in which the wealth is spread so
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unevenly, which used to be something the left cared about.
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Well, what does it say, Andrew, when the one candidate in the leadership race that seems
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to, I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to say that he is the best at articulating that
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resentment that a lot of Canadians are feeling.
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What does it say when journalists turn that around and immediately paint the one person
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who's speaking to the issues that Canadians are really, that Canadians have to face, that
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That person is someone that they try and paint as evil?
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It speaks to this idea that it's not just the, it's not just the opposition.
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It's not just liberals telling conservatives that they're wrong to be thinking the way
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that they think or to be taking issue with the issues they care about.
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And I think that's, that's just only going to lead down the same problems we hear these
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How, how often on the show, Andrew, have we talked about legacy journalists making themselves
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a story and saying that they're victims from a lot of angry tweets and angry statements.
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And some I'm sure are very rude and not appropriate.
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But when, when the journalists are the ones that are mocking people who talk about the
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issues that a lot of Canadians care about, what do you have to say about that?
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We always try and, we always try and highlight on the show that legacy media is just disconnected
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from a lot of Canadians and that, that's become so clear in the first, what has it been?
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Two, three days of Pierre Paglia's leadership of the opposition.
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And the issues they do care about and choose to jump up and down on are generally not the
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And certainly this was the case during the leadership where it was conservative members
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who were voting and, you know, they weren't interested in the same things that, you know,
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But even now, so the, the big Globe and Mail exclusive, in fact,
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I feel, you know, we, exclusive doesn't quite do justice to just how groundbreaking this
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Step aside Pulitzer, step aside Nellie Bly, step aside Woodward.
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The, the breaking news story, Pierre Pagliav, the official opposition leader, is planning to
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move into the residence reserve for the leader of the official opposition.
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Like, I'm, I'm shocked to my very core that Pierre Pagliav is moving into Stornoway.
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I liked the quote that his press secretary, Anthony Koch, gave.
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It's like, yeah, duh, why are you bothering me with this question?
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Of course, he's like, did you ask Justin Trudeau if he was going to move into one of his
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And you can take issue with, uh, why are we as a country paying for the leader of the
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That's a legitimate question, but it's not like they're trying to just pigeonhole him.
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Oh, he talks about the gatekeepers and he talks about affordability and he talks about
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people not having a house, but he's moving into that house.
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And the way that Globe and Mail framed it was disingenuous from the start.
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They try and paint it as though Polyev is, again, as you said, doing something that he
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isn't supposed to do or is out of, out of step with tradition.
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I mean, every single opposition leader, even the interim leaders stayed in Stornoway.
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And I, for one, actually kind of think that tradition in this sense is very important.
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It's been a week that we've been watching tradition play out in the UK and these things
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I want the prime minister, for example, not to be living in, in, in the, wherever he is
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in, uh, Rideau Cottage, we have a house for the prime minister.
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I want the leader of the opposition to be in the, in the house that they're supposed
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And the, the headline of Pierre Pauly had planned to move into publicly funded Stornoway
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Like everyone knows it's publicly funded, right?
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What a lot of Canadians don't know, however, is I'm pretty sure the figure was $11 million,
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Uh, the, the prime minister spent $11 million renovating and upgrading the prime minister's
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cottage, which I too also think the prime minister should have access to.
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Again, it's not me taking issue with the, with the properties being there.
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It's the fact that the media are grasping at, at, at thin air here, trying to, trying to
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turn a non-story into something and doing it in, in the worst way, which is of course trying
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to paint the opposition leader as, as some, somebody who doesn't care about, about the,
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the, the public dollar when he's all, all he's doing is doing what his job tells him
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And it happens to be this one that the taxpayer pays for.
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It's such a non-story and it's really disappointing, but, and actually to be fair, to be fair,
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not something I would have expected to see from the Globe and Mail, but just ridiculous.
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Anthony Koch, the, the press secretary, uh, had a great response to it.
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I think you just gotta, you just gotta laugh at this, at stuff like this.
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And I don't even know if it's worthy of a response to a journalist writing a story.
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Well, no, but you could tell they wanted more because if you, if you read the actual story,
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it's like they, they kept asking further questions about it.
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Like, you know, Oh, he didn't respond to the conservative leaders views on the move.
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Well, I assume the views on the move are, I've got to get packing because this move is coming
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And they, they claim that this is a lot more controversial than it really is.
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The issue of whether to move in has bedeviled previous opposition leaders.
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Even the interim leaders tend to move in because that is what it's there for.
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And again, if you want to have the discussion that there shouldn't be, someone pointed this
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out to me the other day, which I don't actually think is wrong or like an off base comment
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that, you know, why do we have for the loser of an election, an official
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And unless someone's proposing to get rid of it, this is just such a non-issue.
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But again, par for the course in how these are often trying to portray Pierre Polyev.
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But what else has like irked you this week about the media coverage?
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Well, one thing that I just found to be very bizarre was this idea that Pierre Polyev
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is painting the media as the enemy, which is clearly, by the way, a line they're trying
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to attribute to Pierre Polyev when they know that it's sort of, for some people, it's
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They want to try and attribute that quote to Pierre Polyev.
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People are trying to say that Pierre Polyev is calling the media the enemy when he didn't
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So after the David Akin story, Pierre Polyev wrote a fundraising email off of what had
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I'm not going to really get into that part of it, but it's the reaction to the fundraising
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These journalists, we've got Rachel Gilmore of Global News.
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Amber Mack, for example, basically took the fundraising email that Pierre Polyev wrote to conservatives
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and wrote, week number one, the media is the enemy.
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This is a dangerous path, specifically naming a member of the media as the enemy in your email
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It's pure intimidation by someone who interrupts for a living.
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The problem is, Andrew, nowhere in that fundraising email did Pierre use the words enemy.
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Like, it's this idea that they don't even have the ammunition.
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They don't have the right ammunition to go after Polyev for it.
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And it's like the script has already been written before the circumstances come up that
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And one way where you saw that was CUPE, which is like the big public sector union, had launched
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this attack on Pierre Polyev this week that I just want to share.
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They said, it's too bad that unlike Andrew Scheer, Pierre Polyev does not hold American citizenship
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because he would be right at home as governor of a state like Alabama.
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It's like they've already purchased, like from, you know, their local, you know, county comedy
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writer, a bunch of jokes that they didn't get to about Andrew Scheer.
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And now they're like, all right, well, let's just cross out Scheer and write Polyev.
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It's like they've already determined the line of attack they're going to take.
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And they don't even think about how well or not well this stuff is landing.
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And of course, I'm just going through some of these other ridiculous takes.
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And I stumble, I see this one here from the Toronto Star.
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And we at True North get name dropped in this article, Andrew.
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So the, of course, the press pool in Ottawa, they took issue, I think, with the fact that
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media outlets like True North, like Rebel, they mentioned, they even mentioned the page
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These journalists took issue with the fact that we clipped the interaction, if you want to call
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And I just want to read this paragraph because I think it speaks to this idea that we're talking
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about, this idea that you can just attribute quotes and statements to Pierre Polyev or
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to media that the legacy media disagree with when we've never said it.
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Far right websites such as The Rebel and True North Center or right wing influencer Ontario
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All three self-servingly love to say mainstream media is the enemy.
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Funny, Andrew, in that clip, I don't think, in fact, I think we posted it three times,
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Nowhere, I think, Andrew, did we say the media is the enemy.
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We just let like David Aiken's conduct and Pierre Polyev's response speak for itself.
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But I mean, people see in this what they want to see.
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Like people that don't like him are like, oh, he got thrown off balance.
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Keto Maggie, the pollster, he went on this big, long Twitter rant, which it took me like
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four times falling asleep before I got to the end.
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But when I got to the end, his fundamental point was that Pierre Polyev lost it under,
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And I'm like, well, the fact that they sent out that clip in a fundraising email suggests
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they think Pierre Polyev probably handled himself just fine.
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Yeah, I think obviously that's the way it comes across to the majority of people.
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I think the clip went viral not because of Polyev's response, but because of the behavior
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And I think, like you said, everyone recognized that.
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So the media have been taking issue, Andrew, with the fact that Polyev in the media availability,
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and I know we can call it what we want to call it.
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I think when you speak to press, a lot of people view that as a press conference without
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knowing the lingo that is used in the industry.
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And they take issue with the fact that Pierre Polyev was not even supposed to take any questions,
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but then he ended up taking only two questions.
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And because of that, the media gave themselves a pass, I guess, or gave one of their peers
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This should not come as a surprise, Andrew, because Justin Trudeau has done this many times.
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Because Justin Trudeau often puts limits on how many questions he can take.
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Or, for example, like he did at one trip, he basically said that any journalist who blurts
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out a question gets escorted off the property from one of his trips.
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It wasn't even like ancient history to go back to that.
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They don't have to go that far back in their newspapers to find out when that occurred.
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So, again, we shouldn't be expecting journalists to call balls and strikes the way we'd like
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I think everyone takes issue and can find issue with that.
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But at least can we get some consistency, please?
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And I mean, I don't have to go back that far, I guess, to 2019 when the liberals had like
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It wasn't even a press event at the time because, you know, they were just concerned that,
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you know, he might be in the vicinity of a tough question.
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So it is, you know, quite ridiculous how and again, I said on my show and I don't want
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to re-litigate the point I said on my show that I think not taking questions at your
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But at the same time, that's his call and he's going to make it and his team's going to
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But I thought it was just incredibly, incredibly bizarre that this is like the hill to die on
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for so many of them who then leap to David Akin's defense, defense, even when David apologizes
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for it, when he realizes, yeah, that probably wasn't right.
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And Andrew, we there's so much to there's so much to go over on this, this sort of week
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that was in Canadian politics, this, this major week with Polyev as the new leader.
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I want to highlight a comment or a tweet thread that we got that we saw from Althea Raj, who
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basically did this, in my opinion, Andrew, shameless defense of the prime minister, a complete,
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completely ridiculous jump to the defense of the prime minister while quote tweeting
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So Lance, Melissa Lantzman, the now the deputy leader of the conservative party under Pierre
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Polyev wrote on Twitter, I'm old enough to remember that time when the prime minister
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called an election and weaponized vaccines, calling everyone who disagreed with them racist
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Althea Raj quote tweeted Melissa Lantzman and wrote clarification.
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He didn't call everyone who disagreed with him racist and misogynist.
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He was talking about the aggressive protesters who showed up during the campaign when he
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said these protesters are people who don't believe in science, who are often misogynistic
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So again, why would a journalist jump to the defense of the prime minister while quote
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The optics could not could not have been any worse, Andrew.
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Yeah, and I think that there was a defense early on because remember, when Justin Trudeau
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made that comment during the election, a lot of people didn't latch on to it.
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It wasn't until later when in a lot of ways his true colors, his true approach to this
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had become a lot more apparent and people started looking at it in the broader context
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and saying, yeah, you really just hate the unvaccinated.
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He specifically gave the percentage at the time of people that weren't vaccinated.
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So you can't take away from that, that he wasn't talking about the unvaccinated in general,
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who he saw as really being indistinguishable from the people protesting his campaign at
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No, and it's just it's just bizarre to me that the media or frankly, that we're in a
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climate in which legacy media who know there's no way, Andrew, that the media don't know
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the perception that they that many Canadians have about them.
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I refuse to believe that there is this level of ignorance in the legacy media where they
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just think that Canadians, all Canadians trust them and take their, you know, take for what
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I mean, if you're going to go, if you're going to go down the road of fact checking, you
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really have to be darn sure that you've got the facts.
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And look, no one can speak to the heart and mind of Justin Trudeau, you know, except for
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But I think when you look at that comment, it was not at all something that, you know, Melissa
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Lansman was wrong to take as a broad swipe against the unvaccinated in general.
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There's so much to be packing into this week, but a lot's happened.
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Usually it's for an over, usually it's for bias.
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Usually it's for some sort of, you know, attack on conservatives.
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But rarely, Andrew, does it come down to major errors in either spelling or in factual errors
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like getting the number wrong beside the new king's name.
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So CTV News Vancouver Island, of course, you have to give some leash to these media outlets.
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Reporting on the Queen's death was very difficult.
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There was a pressure to get everything right and to get it out quick enough.
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So of course there were bound to be some errors.
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CTV News Vancouver Island, however, when they announced the death of Queen Elizabeth II,
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A key point to Queen Elizabeth II's legacy is that she ascended to the throne, T-H-R-O-W-N,
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when she was only 25 and in a male-dominated patriarchy.
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So, of course, they got the wrong throne there.
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And then they also talk about the male-dominated patriarchy,
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which I think doesn't need to be dissected too much to realize what's wrong in that tweet.
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They hadn't had enough of the, I guess, the mockery from what they were getting in the comments, Andrew.
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So later they put out this tweet commenting from this person who I think has a pretty obvious bias against the monarchy.
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Royal commentator Afua Hagan explains how King Charles II has to address colonialism and even reparations in order to truly modernize.
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I'm not sure, Andrew, but I think King Charles II died quite a while ago.
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Yeah, you know, it's going to be very difficult for a guy who died 400 years ago to address colonialism and reparations.
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But just because it's difficult doesn't mean he shouldn't try.
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Yeah, I mean, it was a double whammy on CTV News, Vancouver Island.
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I guess they're going to have to have a discussion with whoever writes their tweets, types up their tweets.
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I know we get some things wrong on social media, too, at True North.
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But in a week in which major transition has been taking place across the Western world,
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it's a big, major news announcement, the passing of our late monarch, Queen Elizabeth II.
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Those two were quite worthy of highlight, I think, especially coming from the fact that it's the same little outlet on Vancouver Island,
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So I'm sure at some point, Andrew, when they realized they had made these mistakes,
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maybe they thought to themselves, well, Harrison and Andrew are definitely going to hit us on Fake News Friday for this,
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Yeah. I just want CTV to point out the non-male-dominated patriarchy.
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It's like, oh, this was a really bad patriarchy.
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It was a male-dominated patriarchy, as opposed to all those other female-dominated patriarchies
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I mean, it's 2022, so you can't judge, I guess.
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But in any case, that is the week that was as far as fake news.
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My thanks, of course, to Harrison Faulkner, who you can catch every week in his great new show, Ratioed.
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And hopefully you'll tune into my show, The Andrew Lawton Show, as well.
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Thank you all for joining us today, and thank you, Harrison.