The Candice Malcolm Show - Fake News Friday ｜ The CBC buries coverage on interference

00:00:00.000 Welcome, everyone, to another exciting edition, or at least I hope it lives up to the standard

00:00:14.680 of excitement we all strive for. We've got Sue Ann Levy on, so I don't think that will

00:00:18.880 be an issue. It is Fake News Friday, March 3rd, 2023. I am Andrew Lawton, and as mentioned

00:00:25.940 just a moment ago, joined, as always, by a trusty, loyal, hilarious co-host. We switched

00:00:33.260 between Harrison and Sue Ann. We're going to have them battle it out in a cage match to see who gets

00:00:37.940 to be the permanent co-host at some point, but Sue Ann, always a delight to have you here. Thanks

00:00:42.160 for doing this. Thank you, and I want to know, in honour of Fake News Friday, that I do not have

00:00:47.940 fake breasts, like the Halton shop teacher. Mine are real. I have to be very careful of how I

00:00:56.340 respond to that in this climate. I won't ask you to prove it or anything like that. I would never be

00:01:01.280 so gauche. We will take you at face value, as your self-identification indicates there,

00:01:06.460 and it is a show debunking fake news, so I know you wouldn't be a purveyor of fake news yourself.

00:01:12.800 This is the time in the week where we navigate through the tornadoes of trickery, the hurricanes,

00:01:17.920 of hoaxes, and make sense of it as only we can, and perhaps have a couple of laughs along the way.

00:01:24.540 The serious story this week, Sue Ann, has obviously been the unraveling and expanding

00:01:29.780 scope of China's interference in Canada's elections, but when there's a story that puts

00:01:35.960 the Liberal government on the hot seat, fake news is never far behind. CBC, at one point this week,

00:01:43.100 had all of its homepage about the federal government banning TikTok, not about China interfering

00:01:49.260 in Canadian elections, not about China donating to the Trudeau Foundation, but their emphasis was on

00:01:55.720 TikTok. Do you think this is just an accidental misarrangement on the homepage or something deeper?

00:02:01.920 Oh, come on. It's, of course, it's quite calculated, actually, I think, because, you know, it's like

00:02:09.560 deferring one's attention to the shiny object, and TikTok's to blame, not the Trudeau government,

00:02:18.260 of course, who's bailed out the legacy media. So, you know, if you can find, I guess, a scapegoat,

00:02:25.920 scapegoat, TikTok becomes the scapegoat. And it's just so funny the way they react, don't you think?

00:02:35.240 Yeah, it is. And I mean, even the federal government banning TikTok, which people have

00:02:39.980 called for for many months now, I think probably over a year, and they're doing it just now when

00:02:46.280 they happen to be in the midst of a firestorm about China. So it really is the epitome of this

00:02:51.960 big giant thing that everyone's going on. And let's just throw a couple of, you know, breadcrumbs

00:02:56.280 your way without dealing with the overarching problem here. And when the media then focuses

00:03:01.480 on this as being a big deal, it is the media really falling for the liberal government's

00:03:06.400 distraction. Yeah, they're so easily manipulated. It should be they should be embarrassed by it.

00:03:12.740 But I have a question for you. There's a certain global reporter who's known to be a TikTok star.

00:03:17.620 Does that mean she's been banned as well? Well, no one can read her on a or view her on a federal

00:03:24.260 government device. So this may actually increase the caliber of a parliamentarian's work if they

00:03:31.020 aren't getting their insights from TikTok in general. You never know. Yeah, or some TikTok stars who

00:03:37.260 pretend to be journalists. Now, now, you know what, there's a time and a place for that sort of stuff.

00:03:43.200 And I think it's great if you're talking about, you know, little primers on news, little commentary,

00:03:48.760 but I have yet to see hard hitting journalism take form on TikTok. I'm not saying it doesn't

00:03:53.320 exist, but I've never seen it. Yeah. And I think TikTok wasn't ever meant to be a hard hitting

00:03:59.680 journalism platform. It was meant to be, you know, a platform that you had fun with.

00:04:05.900 Uh, you know, uh, we've got enough, quite enough with Twitter and, and Facebook video, and we've

00:04:13.300 got so many social media platforms, but I thought TikTok was always just a fun thing that you, you

00:04:19.400 know, you did dog tricks on. Yeah. And if you looked at, uh, CBC on March 1st, this was the day that

00:04:28.660 all of this was going on. So two days ago, uh, here were the stories and I'm just going to rapid fire

00:04:33.960 them. What does TikTok know about you? What should you know about it? TikTok sets new default time

00:04:39.980 limits for minors. Uh, Jagmeet Singh will deactivate TikTok account in response to security privacy

00:04:45.740 concerns. I noticed they didn't do a story about Melissa Lansman, the deputy conservative leader,

00:04:51.080 deactivating hers overnight. Uh, Canada is jumping on a bandwagon with TikTok ban. Tech expert says

00:04:57.160 federal government banning social media platform TikTok from government phones. Is TikTok bad? Here's why

00:05:03.020 many Western countries are taking a closer look. Attempted interference in 2021 election did not

00:05:09.220 compromise the result report. So you scroll way, way, way, way down. You get past the eight

00:05:14.560 stories about TikTok, and then you find, uh, the first story about China's interference is actually

00:05:19.340 that, well, there really wasn't any interference. It does seem like CBC is doing a bit of pass blocking

00:05:24.340 here for the liberals. Well, why is the, why are the liberals banning TikTok then? What, what,

00:05:30.160 what is this big exercise all about? Uh, but, you know, you've seen it repeatedly that they will,

00:05:37.460 uh, you know, deflect and reinvent stories, reinvent the narrative, push people to the shiny object that

00:05:45.920 has very little to do with the, um, the subject at hand. And I mean, this is a huge story, China's

00:05:53.800 interference in the election. Um, but they continually give, uh, Justin Trudeau a free pass

00:06:01.680 on every little thing. So why should this be a surprise to any of us?

00:06:07.040 Yeah, fair enough. And, you know, CBC for this show anyway, tends to be the gift that keeps on

00:06:12.900 giving. Uh, this one was fascinating. Uh, many of you who are on active on social media and you follow,

00:06:19.140 uh, footage of the convoy and other big events in the Canadian political sphere. You may know,

00:06:24.460 uh, Mocha Bezergin, and I apologize to Mocha for likely butchering his last name, but, uh,

00:06:30.540 Mocha used to be at Rebel News. Now he works independently. He's a great photographer and

00:06:35.560 videographer. He he's everywhere and including Roxham Road where he's done tremendous footage. So

00:06:41.460 at some point he went to Roxham Road and was filming and a Canadian press photographer

00:06:48.140 got a picture of him walking around. Now CBC then shows this story in an article about Roxham Road.

00:06:58.780 The headline of the article, Man Dies After Encountering Patrol Agents at Canada-US Border. And

00:07:05.240 there's a picture of our friend Mocha, uh, next to a big sign that says, uh, Arrete Stop. Uh, now Mocha

00:07:12.260 is not actually dead. Uh, and if you look at the caption of the photo, it gets even more concerning

00:07:19.380 because they offer a biographical description of him as being a migrant waiting for transport. So,

00:07:26.380 uh, they, they've not only killed off Mocha, but they've also taken away his Canadian citizenship of

00:07:32.040 21 years and made him an illegal. Uh, and you know, again, is it sinister? No,

00:07:37.740 it's sure as heck is lazy though. Lazy reporting. And, you know, the whole issue with rock Roxham

00:07:45.020 Road, which I covered while I was at the Toronto sun before I came to true North has been a huge,

00:07:51.340 um, issue that has filtered into our cities and it's impacted on the city of Toronto, where I make my

00:07:59.040 home. Um, refugees are filling up shelters. Nobody or hardly anybody in the legacy media covers this sort

00:08:06.560 of stuff, but they get into these sideshows that are absolutely ridiculous. It's rather frustrating

00:08:12.320 to see this kind of lazy, uh, inaccurate reporting when in fact, uh, Roxham Road should be dissected,

00:08:21.020 uh, as to the impact on Canada's cities. As I said, in particular Toronto, I think what's happened is

00:08:29.600 Quebec has diverted a lot of the refugees who are crossing the border illegally and being allowed to

00:08:35.560 cross the border illegally. I don't understand it at all now to Ontario and it's Ontario's problem now.

00:08:42.880 Yeah. And I mean, obviously the, this nonsense about the photo is, is a bit of a sidebar to the

00:08:47.920 overarching issue and the media I think has done a tremendous disservice by buying into the government's

00:08:53.840 language of this being irregular migration instead of illegal migration. They refuse to call illegal

00:08:59.840 immigration, illegal immigration, which is part of the problem here because this is about narratives and

00:09:05.260 you've got the federal government saying on one hand, you know, oh yes, we're taking this seriously,

00:09:09.280 but it's complicated. And yeah, it's not just as easy as going there and turning people away,

00:09:13.580 but that's exactly what they did during COVID, at least in the earlier part of the pandemic. And now

00:09:18.240 they've just gone back to this being a, an open, I don't even think a revolving door because no one's

00:09:22.640 going the other way. It's just a one way red carpet. Exactly. You hit the nail on the head.

00:09:28.020 They were able to stem the tide of illegal immigrants. And I will say illegal, I'll call

00:09:32.740 it what it is during COVID. They put a stop to it and now it started up again. And now these people

00:09:39.400 are crossing the border quite freely. And believe me, they have heard, because as I said, I followed

00:09:44.460 it quite closely in Toronto. They hear in, you know, countries like Nigeria and other countries in,

00:09:53.600 in Africa, for example, that there is an open border. So they come to the States. I mean, there, I did

00:10:00.180 stories about them taking a bus to within, you know, a mile of the border and then walking over with

00:10:06.400 their designer suitcases. Well, there's, there's one, there's been a couple of photos, but one in

00:10:12.080 particular that stands out in my mind, which if we can get the rights to it, we'll put it up in the show

00:10:16.480 here, but you can find it online yourself. It's a police officer actually carrying someone's bag for

00:10:21.800 them as they cross illegally into Canada. They're greeted by a Mountie who becomes Canada's official

00:10:28.100 baggage porter. And see, you can't, you know, our, our country has become absolutely absurd. And yes,

00:10:37.280 I, I actually saw plenty of, hang on. I don't want to interrupt Sue Ann, but I've just got the line,

00:10:41.820 the Mounties, we always get your handbag. We always get your handbag and your luggage,

00:10:46.680 your designer luggage. So I've also seen pictures of them just walking in there.

00:10:51.360 You know, their late model running shoes, the, you know, the Nikes and stuff with the, um,

00:10:58.840 the hard, uh, luggage and wheeling it across. And, you know, I'd laugh, I'd, I'd laugh if I didn't

00:11:07.960 want to cry about it. Yeah. It's, you know, the old, it's the true, you know, refugee story of I showed

00:11:13.360 up with only the clothes on my back and a Louis Vuitton suitcase and, uh, the latest designer treads

00:11:18.560 as I sought asylum in Canada from the United States.

00:11:23.100 And, you know, uh, think about the impact that has on the cities, various cities, uh, social

00:11:30.960 services system. They have shelter, they have to have, uh, they have, you know, uh, resources,

00:11:38.760 other resources, they get free, uh, healthcare and, um, you know, this, it's, it's a crazy,

00:11:47.720 crazy thing. And it's, uh, they, I dare say are taking total advantage because they know

00:11:54.860 that Canada's open borders are, you know, there. And I think it initially started really, Andrew,

00:12:02.940 a couple of years ago when, uh, Trudeau and our late great mayor in Toronto, John Tory

00:12:09.600 wanted to get back at Donald Trump, wanted to show that they weren't like Donald Trump,

00:12:13.460 you know, when he clamped down on illegal migrants. And so of course that opened the floodgates

00:12:19.280 and here we are. Yeah. And you get all of the, I know we're getting a little off topic here,

00:12:23.540 but I know you've seen this, uh, oftentimes you get all these cities and states in the United

00:12:28.440 States that claim they want to be sanctuaries for illegal immigrants. And they all happen to

00:12:32.960 be conspicuously miles and miles and miles away from the borders where illegal immigrants are going

00:12:38.120 across places like, you know, Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts or Northern California. And then

00:12:43.080 when governors in these border States have called the bluff and just ship migrants up to Martha's

00:12:47.760 Vineyard, they all get very offended by these illegal migrants just showing up in their towns.

00:12:53.000 Oh my. Yes. Well, it, you know, it did start a few years ago, also in Toronto,

00:12:58.040 where hotels were taken over and the house ref refugees. So there is a fallout and, you know,

00:13:05.420 nobody thinks about that, but getting back to what we were talking about. So these are the stories

00:13:09.980 that should be told, but they're not being told. Their poor Mocha is declared dead. And, uh, he's also

00:13:17.140 a dead immigrant, illegal or irregular. I guess he could be a regular or illegal, depending on who's

00:13:23.300 talking about it. The moral of the story, Mocha alive and well, and still in good standing unless

00:13:29.620 Justin Trudeau has tried to revoke his citizenship, but I don't think that's happened just yet.

00:13:33.780 Uh, so CBC and CP have gotten it wrong there. Uh, let's talk about this one, which I want to be a bit

00:13:40.640 delicate with, because I think that, uh, what's happened here is Scott Adams, who is the cartoonist

00:13:47.400 behind the long running Dilbert series, made some comments that I personally believe are

00:13:53.560 indefensible and, and whatever his intent was, whether he was trying to be edgy, whether he was

00:13:58.320 trying to be sloppy with the point he was making, I don't know, but I look at this and I hear this and

00:14:03.640 I don't like it. You know, nearly half of all blacks, uh, are not okay with white people, according to

00:14:09.520 this poll, not according to me, according to this poll, uh, that's a hate group. That's a hate group.

00:14:17.080 And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know, based on the current way

00:14:23.000 things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black

00:14:28.780 people. Just get the fuck away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this.

00:14:38.060 This can't be fixed. So he's saying white people should stay away from black people. Don't bother

00:14:44.020 doing anything because they're going to hate you anyway. It's a generalization. I've seen, you know,

00:14:49.100 Samuel say, who I find to be very reasonable, uh, racial commentator in Canada has said, this is

00:14:55.320 full stop racist. And he doesn't use that word lightly. However, Scott Adams, the guy on the internet

00:15:02.780 is different in my view than Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert in the sense that I believe

00:15:08.660 most artists should probably be viewed separately from their work. But we've now seen in response to

00:15:14.340 this, this wave of cancellation, which has been kind of furthered in Canada as well with the Globe

00:15:19.660 and Mail saying, yeah, they're not going to carry Dilbert anymore. They put a statement out that said

00:15:24.340 they respect and encourage free speech, but his views do not align with our editorial or business

00:15:29.300 values as an organization. What do you make of this, Sue Ann? Number one, whatever happened to

00:15:34.760 second chances? So he, you know, he made a mistake and he could apologize and let's move on. Um, you know,

00:15:42.980 it wasn't a very, it was an indelicate way of saying probably what a lot of people are, are thinking in a

00:15:49.580 different way that, um, you know, black activism has, uh, got in some ways out of control because

00:15:57.760 we have critical race theory being taught where some people are oppressed. The whites, uh, are

00:16:03.740 oppressors, white people are oppressors. There's white supremacy being thrown out there. And I think a lot

00:16:08.600 of people have gotten frustrated with the landscape that we're in, you know, involved in now. So,

00:16:16.000 you know, I'm sure that, well, I can't get into his head. Let's put it that way. But I would say

00:16:22.460 that it's probably in, in the midst of an environment where people are upset with, you know,

00:16:28.700 this stuff being rammed down their throats. And I think that his, if, if we are to take that

00:16:34.920 interpretation, I think he made a fatal error in not distinguishing black people in general, because

00:16:41.480 he did speak in generalizations from the activists that I think are very concerning. It would be no

00:16:46.440 different than lumping in, you know, people who are gay and lesbian with, you know, the really radical

00:16:52.240 trans activists that don't support free speech or with lumping in all Muslims with, uh, radical Islamist

00:16:58.640 Muslims, just to give a few examples here. So I think absolutely people should be able to engage and debate

00:17:04.100 the point. And, and I, I get so bothered that the only step people are prepared to take is to go immediately

00:17:11.360 to cancellation.

00:17:12.980 Right. Or to call whomever who makes a comment. And this was a very sloppy comment. Uh, they're racist.

00:17:20.380 They're, uh, you know, Islamophobic, whatever it may be, they throw out all the, the terms that they think will

00:17:26.920 silence people. Um, they're so quick to judge. And this is in a society that we're talking about,

00:17:33.560 supposed to be tolerant, supposed to be, uh, they're supposed to be free speech, but it's only

00:17:38.580 free speech is determined by those, uh, I guess the woke culture or the activists who decide what

00:17:47.340 is permissible and what isn't a simple apology and let's carry on. And I'm not going to, you know,

00:17:54.140 he has a great cartoon, as you said, and, uh, you know, to, to just cancel him entirely seems like

00:18:01.280 just undue punishment, but, you know, there is a crazy double standard in this world right now.

00:18:07.680 And, uh, you know, you have to be so careful what you say. If an activist comes out, as I've been

00:18:13.580 targeted by many, uh, say trans activists, for example, calling me all kinds of names, saying,

00:18:19.920 making assumptions on very publicly, but that's okay. Uh, because I'm on the wrong side of the

00:18:26.520 equation. So all I'm saying is that, uh, it's, it's a crazy double standard. Uh, those of us like

00:18:33.820 you, like me are not allowed to say certain things without being targeted. Others can get away with it.

00:18:42.100 Very well said Sue Ann Levy. This is Fake News Friday. I'm Andrew Lawton. We will talk to you

00:18:47.740 all next week here on True North. Thank you so much.

00:18:56.520 True North. Thank you.

The Candice Malcolm Show - March 03, 2023

Fake News Friday ｜ The CBC buries coverage on interference

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