The Candice Malcolm Show - Fake News Friday ｜ The demonization of the Freedom Convoy won’t stop

00:00:00.000 welcome one and all to another edition of fake news friday here on true north it is friday july

00:00:20.140 29th i am andrew lawton guest hosting for candace malcolm over the summer months and joined as

00:00:26.760 always by harrison faulkner host of the great new show ratioed on true north and also true north

00:00:32.560 producer does a lot behind the scenes in front of the scenes beside the scenes around the scenes

00:00:36.720 between the scenes you never know harrison good to talk to you as always thanks for joining me

00:00:40.680 yeah thanks uh thanks for having me andrew i think we're getting the hang of it you and i on the uh

00:00:45.200 on the sub in sub in fake news friday hosting yeah i don't know why i thank you for joining me though

00:00:50.920 i guess i'm getting awfully comfortable in the guest uh host role that i've now just said you know

00:00:56.320 basically like i've been here the whole time and you're the guest host but uh now that would be

00:00:59.680 some fake news so keeping with the theme of the program we have a lot on the agenda for today i'm

00:01:06.600 lying we don't actually have an agenda we just kind of wing it but certainly a lot that's happened in

00:01:10.580 the week that i want to get to and one of them is near and dear to my heart because it's an example

00:01:15.760 that brings me back to the nostalgia of the freedom convoy in ottawa in january and february the media

00:01:22.720 the political class the elites really just losing their minds about things that might be unpleasant

00:01:28.780 but in the grander scheme of things really aren't how they're being reported and we're not talking

00:01:34.300 about dismissing things here we're just talking about what should be the thing we all strive for

00:01:38.940 fair and honest coverage anita anand the defense minister has called out the quote desecration

00:01:45.440 of the tomb of the unknown soldier now no mistake about it this is a very important site this is an

00:01:52.500 important site in honoring the memories of those who have lost their lives in war while wearing the

00:01:57.540 canadian uniform it's important i think to recognize and respect all veterans it is legally protected as

00:02:04.100 well it's actually a criminal offense to desecrate a war monument but let's also be clear with our

00:02:10.380 language here the desecration the so-called desecration is that someone draped flags on the tomb of

00:02:17.820 the unknown soldier there were pictures and videos of an event over the weekend where there was an american

00:02:23.780 flag and a canadian flag on it and someone was bowing their head at the tomb now this does not strike me as

00:02:31.900 desecration maybe it's misguided i think laying an american flag on top of and it was a large flag on top of a

00:02:37.780 tomb of an unknown canadian soldier is in poor taste but i did this is not vandalism this is not trying to

00:02:45.720 disrespect it this is someone that doesn't really know the proper way to respect it and regardless

00:02:51.460 of what it was this has now been elevated to how dare the freedom convoy do this not just how dare

00:02:56.540 this one guy do this and again it's not all that surprising but every time the same messaging comes

00:03:03.520 out and the media just laps it up well what what i just what i just find bizarre andrew is that

00:03:10.060 the pictures we saw from the freedom convoy were were of veterans of very proud canadians probably

00:03:17.800 far prouder canadians than many of the canadians in ottawa they were standing by this the war memorial

00:03:25.180 singing oh canada by the war memorial i remember that very famous video of those veterans saying uh

00:03:31.340 saying the lord's prayer and saying oh canada outside the war memorial shoveling the snow around it

00:03:36.200 yeah well well exactly and then of course when there were uh people i i would say desecrating

00:03:42.200 the war memorial when there were people who i don't even know if this was found out to be true

00:03:46.220 but there were videos of people urinating or so-called urinings close to the con close to the uh statue

00:03:52.340 or other people they were unable to actually link it to the convoy to begin with so ottawa seems to be

00:03:58.400 running with this message that anybody who is i guess disrespecting the war monument in ottawa

00:04:04.560 the uh the tomb of the unknown soldier must be a part of the freedom convoy it's just very classic

00:04:09.640 ottawa to me that they choose to get outraged over this and i will agree with you andrew that i think

00:04:14.480 draping the american flag over the canadian tomb of the unknown soldier is also in poor taste it's it

00:04:20.400 is not it's not something i would accept and if i were around i'd probably tell that person to

00:04:24.800 uh take that flag off and go somewhere else but it was very quiet when we saw egerton ryerson statue

00:04:32.820 in outside ryerson university toppled when we saw johnny mcdonald statues toppled whether they were

00:04:38.880 in montreal or whether it was the johnny mcdonald statue removed in kingston you don't hear much

00:04:44.960 about that you also don't hear about other statues that get torn down like queen victoria statue on

00:04:50.820 canada day or queen elizabeth just beside it uh on canada day a few years ago well when you do hear

00:04:55.980 about it it's celebrating it exactly you actually have mps saying wow this is i think it was nikki

00:05:02.040 ashton andrew who said this is uh decolonization in action or something like that about the queen

00:05:07.780 victoria statue being torn down it's classic ottawa to me you know make fake outrage about this rather 0.79

00:05:13.920 non-event uh in ottawa because it's right in their backyard uh and they're allowed to stir up the

00:05:19.380 memories of the freedom convoy but then say nothing when the founder of our country and influential

00:05:24.660 figures in this country who are by far in my opinion uh forces for good in our history when

00:05:31.260 those statues get not desecrated torn down and ripped off their pedestals it's very silent

00:05:37.560 yeah and i think i mean the word desecration and i don't want to get too bogged down by semantics

00:05:43.480 here but this is i think an important term because desecration refers first off to places that are sacred

00:05:49.060 so i would argue that yes the warman tomb of the unknown soldier may not be technically sacred but

00:05:54.600 it's a level of reverence there i think sacred normally refers to sites of saints and martyrs

00:06:00.860 and religious and holy sites but nevertheless i'm not going to say it's not desecration if you do

00:06:06.000 engage in a violent disrespect as desecration requires at the tomb of the unknown soldier but

00:06:11.600 i remember when the convoy was in ottawa we heard of desecration of the terry fox statue which was also

00:06:17.920 a removable flag and a removable sign and i'm like you know i like terry fox i have a great deal of

00:06:22.900 respect for terry fox it's not a sacred site and they didn't do any vandalism they didn't actually

00:06:28.260 do anything that you would argue is desecration unless you are a fake news reporter and this is

00:06:34.480 the thing you're right anytime something happens in ottawa now it's well it must have been convoy so

00:06:38.720 you know you drive your tesla down the road and you hit a pothole it's like a freaking convoy like 0.79

00:06:44.680 so now anytime something happens they're blaming the convoy and when you do have a situation here that

00:06:49.860 someone who probably was affiliated with the convoy protest has done it it loses all context

00:06:55.700 and nuance instead of just saying hey bro you shouldn't have done that it becomes this federal

00:07:00.260 case in a literal and figurative sense yeah and and we found out about this i touched on this earlier

00:07:05.100 but it's important to bring up that that video it was a it was a video during the convoy protest of a

00:07:11.140 woman standing on the tomb of the unknown soldier uh true north reported that that woman was not

00:07:17.280 affiliated with the convoy at all so again yes it's possible that this person was affiliated with

00:07:21.400 the convoy but it's just this fake outrage that i find to be just so i don't really have a word for

00:07:27.920 it but when when there's nothing to be said about the queen queen elizabeth statue our technical head

00:07:34.160 of state being torn down on canada day when there's absolutely nothing at all said about that and then

00:07:40.560 there's this fake outrage about flags draped over the tomb of the unknown soldier it completely loses all

00:07:45.400 its meaning and yeah of course even with the terry fox statue they called that desecration there was

00:07:49.980 a hat a sign and a flag on him and it turns out that actually university students and other protest

00:07:56.180 movements have you know adorned the terry fox statue with their own messaging and their own uh

00:08:02.900 their own sort of garb or whatever they would have at their protest so again it's just this idea it's

00:08:07.720 it's an easy demonization of people that a lot of a lot of these figures in ottawa whether they're in

00:08:12.760 the government or whether they're in media don't like it's a quick easy easy thing to just say well

00:08:18.320 we know these people are you know the these awful nasty truckers well we're just going to pin all

00:08:23.420 the things we don't like on them or things that we don't even really care about that much we're

00:08:27.540 going to take every opportunity we can to again go back to that demonization of those people and i

00:08:32.020 just think it's going to keep happening um for quite a while unfortunately yeah and all you need to

00:08:38.280 do is look at it basically any coverage and the media is already starting to go down this road

00:08:42.020 if anything bad has to have a freedom convoy angle or a freedom convoy connection and i must say i did

00:08:48.000 not see on my bingo card the i shouldn't you know keep such a small bingo card because evidently we

00:08:53.520 find lots of things are on it that i wouldn't have expected the papal visit ended up becoming a freedom

00:08:58.840 convoy story in a way what happened here so what we found out or what we were told by the legacy media

00:09:04.940 was that for some reason the freedom convoy was going to show up outside of a first nation

00:09:11.640 and protest the pope's apology which anyone who was a part of the freedom convoy or involved in

00:09:17.820 the freedom convoy in any way like yourself or even like myself who was there just for about a week's

00:09:22.920 time knows that that just doesn't make any sense at all most of the people or a lot of the flags you

00:09:29.600 saw at the freedom convoy were there there were a lot of every child matters flags there were a lot

00:09:34.300 of first nations people involved in the protest yeah so the idea that the people that were in

00:09:40.240 ottawa would all of a sudden show up at a papal apology on a first nation uh just didn't didn't make

00:09:47.380 any sense to most people but nonetheless the national post actually ran with a story and the headline of

00:09:52.520 the story was a freedom convoy to protest pope's apology in maskewix alberta so i don't even i don't

00:09:59.940 know if i said that right excuse me if i didn't get that right but that's yeah now now they're gonna

00:10:04.340 say you're a part of the freedom convoy mispronouncing maskewix alberta now now we're gonna find out that

00:10:09.280 if you uh if you mispronounce parts of the country then you must be a trucker too so there we go you

00:10:14.780 have to do with you have to do with this town's name what we did with that cbc feminizing masculinizing

00:10:20.160 thing you you have to say it in like you know the the maskewix and the maskewix yeah i have to do i have to do

00:10:25.320 more practice and remember my my keys and o's when it comes to that but so of course andrew like you

00:10:31.400 and i what most people who saw this immediately said that's well that's bs there's no possible

00:10:36.400 way that's even true it's just a classic line a classic thing to demonize people who are part of

00:10:42.380 the freedom convoy and unsuspecting canadians or canadians who are perhaps take the national post

00:10:47.100 still um with a lot of credibility i think they still have some canadians will read that and not

00:10:52.580 question it they'll just immediately realize and take the headline for what it is it turns out

00:10:56.860 however that even the national post recognized that what they wrote was wrong because andrew like

00:11:01.780 we've done before like we've seen before the legacy media quietly changes the headline to completely

00:11:07.920 change the story so again the headline originally from the national post was freedom convoy to protest

00:11:14.080 pope's apology in maskewix alberta now the headline reads pope arrives in canada for penitential

00:11:21.660 visit aimed at indigenous reconciliation no mention of the first nation in alberta no mention of the

00:11:27.840 protest and of course no mention of the freedom convoy i wonder where it went andrew yeah well

00:11:33.360 it's it's there with the actual freedom convoy protesters in the sense that they they don't

00:11:37.240 exist and it's weird and i should say i mean the national post i don't think made it up it sounds like

00:11:42.400 the uh chiefs of this band had sent a note out and they said we ask that the freedom convoy

00:11:49.080 protesters planning to attend stay home or find a place to protest elsewhere but it still was never

00:11:54.920 made clear who are these protesters how do you know they're going to be there and i don't like was

00:12:00.000 this a publicity stunt was it's a band that was just being really really cautious they didn't want

00:12:04.120 to be protested or did they expect that if trudeau were there that would trigger protesters which i i

00:12:09.280 could understand but it was like condemning a protest that never existed in the first place

00:12:14.880 and it was like you're right i mean the quiet little headline edit that undermines the entire

00:12:20.700 story but people don't forget that people remember the headline and especially the people didn't click

00:12:25.220 through to read the story are probably still convinced that oh those evil freedom convoy people

00:12:29.280 were harassing the pope and indigenous people on their own territory so we have to give credit to 1.00

00:12:33.760 the national post here because unlike global news who also ran the same story they did clean up the

00:12:40.120 headline to be more accurate in fact to be accurate to begin with because clearly there was no protest

00:12:45.100 at all well global news ran the story uh and they their their headline was maskawix to freedom convoy

00:12:52.920 protest during pope visit your agendas do not have a place so global news runs with the story they don't

00:12:58.540 have any interest at all i guess in changing up their headlines so again it's it's this tricky game that

00:13:04.720 i think legacy media plays on canadians which is this they know that a lot of readers will either

00:13:11.100 only read the headline or only read the headline plus the first two paragraphs of a story so they

00:13:16.600 can actually bury a lot of the factual information or information that provides context to a rather

00:13:23.060 inflammatory headline and they can bury that at the bottom of the story get their get their message

00:13:27.860 across and canadians will be none the wiser and i think that's something that really needs to be

00:13:32.400 called out by a lot more people this idea that you can you can play with headlines and you can play

00:13:36.860 with the first couple paragraphs of a story to basically and you can almost convince something

00:13:41.040 someone of a totally different line uh when the end of the story tells you the opposite side so that's

00:13:47.700 really what i think is going on here um they they tried to make it out as though this was a guaranteed

00:13:52.800 protest when in reality it was a press release of this of this first nation preemptively saying

00:13:58.560 two freedom convoy protesters don't come and i can tell you one thing's for sure if the if the

00:14:04.100 freedom convoy protesters or we keep saying that because that's really the line that the journalists

00:14:08.380 are taking here if protesters showed up at this event we would have seen it that's for sure it would

00:14:13.700 have come across our headlines because legacy media would have taken it interestingly enough i didn't

00:14:18.040 see any footage of this event i'm not sure if you did andrew not not no footage of protests and

00:14:23.120 again the people that would be most likely to protest would be indigenous people that have feel

00:14:27.060 that that have and i mean the catholic church has acknowledged this the pope acknowledged this on

00:14:31.760 thursday that have grievances with the catholic church and with the pope's presence so the people

00:14:36.740 protesting would be indigenous people and in a weird way the media then should be happy the media 0.99

00:14:41.860 should be happy that the freedom convoy protesters were going so woke they were protesting on behalf of

00:14:46.960 indigenous people against the pope but my goodness not a not a shining day of light for the media in

00:14:54.000 canada no and it's it's always good when you get when you get a real softball on fake news friday when

00:14:59.540 you get a real easy one whether it's a head yeah we don't even need to work for it the story spins

00:15:03.580 itself yeah well yeah by changing the headline they're they're outing themselves as having gotten

00:15:08.520 something exactly they made it they made it really easy on us andrew it's just you know what i got to

00:15:12.620 say to national post thank you that's a we got to give them thanks for making our life easy on this

00:15:17.220 on this program uh let's talk about a load of bull bleep uh quite literally because we're going to

00:15:23.940 talk about fertilizer here and we're not that's not when it's not a stand-in for the outlets we're

00:15:27.500 covering we're talking about literal farm grade fertilizer here uh which we know is becoming a big

00:15:33.320 challenge globally you look at farmers protests in the netherlands in particular and in canada we see

00:15:38.800 farmers also getting very uptight about the same things and i don't mean that in a negative way

00:15:43.280 because the governments are going after nitrogen the governments are going after all aspects of

00:15:48.080 farming which is already in in some respects for some types of farming a very difficult economically

00:15:54.200 challenging industry and the media is whitewashing this entirely in one particular story from cbc where

00:16:01.680 they're talking about young farmers the growing crop of young farmers i bet they're very proud of that

00:16:07.200 one as well they should be i like a pun as much as the next guy but they're talking about all the

00:16:12.100 young farmers and they want to get these hopes for the future and all of that but what they have

00:16:16.540 not done is acknowledge the big giant elephant in the room right now plaguing canadian farmers

00:16:23.240 it's incredible this is bias uh bias of omission this is yeah is it bias or is it i mean do you

00:16:29.340 think it's just incompetence or do you think it's like a reporter that just has no i this is the first

00:16:33.560 time they've ever written about something rural well i i i refuse to believe andrew that the cbc are not

00:16:39.820 aware of this in fact i think actually they even wrote a story which makes it even worse for them

00:16:44.620 they wrote a story before that about ontario farmers raising issue with this emissions reduction

00:16:49.960 scheme from the government so it makes it much worse when the cbc acknowledges what's going on

00:16:55.780 to farmers probably the biggest story to affect farmers in years clearly it's a worldwide global story

00:17:02.180 as well so the cbc acknowledges that this is happening to canada's farmers in one story and then they

00:17:08.120 basically try and spin the narrative at least that's my that's my take on it they spin the

00:17:12.860 narrative to try and convince canadians actually that no a lot of young people are optimistic about

00:17:17.660 farming and young people are going into farming and the best part about this one which really makes

00:17:22.720 me laugh and makes me think it's totally bias of omission and not pure incompetence is that the

00:17:27.900 first woman they highlight in this story they highlight a series of young manichoban uh farmers who 0.79

00:17:34.140 have got into farming recently again it's only four so it's not really it's not really symbolic of

00:17:38.300 anything great but the first woman they highlight talks about how she got into farming for climate 0.97

00:17:43.980 change purposes you know so again it it's totally in line with what i believe the government is trying

00:17:50.620 to push which is you know we need to use we need to alter our agriculture practices to fix the climate

00:17:57.360 i'm not a farming expert i'm not i'm not you know fully up to all the details on what's going on but

00:18:03.080 what i do know is that canadian farmers are extremely concerned about this and this is obviously

00:18:08.380 a huge huge story and just like any other climate scheme from justin trudeau that we've seen whether

00:18:14.820 it's in out whether it's focused on the natural resource sector or it's here in farming it's having

00:18:20.140 adverse effects for canadians it's actually making canadian lives more expensive and more uh more

00:18:25.520 difficult so again it's unbelievable to me that the cbc would write this story to try and convince

00:18:31.740 canadians actually know a bunch of young people are getting into farming and not mention the biggest

00:18:35.920 story that has hit the agricultural sector in years i tweeted this story and i just wrote no mention at

00:18:42.060 all about the fertilizer reduction scheme that will cripple canadian farmers perfect timing to ship the

00:18:46.340 narrative away from trudeau's self-destructive agriculture policies imagine working for the cbc and calling 0.88

00:18:52.020 yourself a journalist because frankly to me this is this is just ridiculous andrew i mean you can't

00:18:57.400 really call yourself a journalist if you fail to mention the biggest story that is affecting canadian

00:19:02.820 farmers i guess my big issue on this is that they're trying to avoid as you i think quite

00:19:10.040 accurately put they're trying to avoid the big elephant in the room on this but the one thing that

00:19:15.200 i find so laughable about it is that on one hand they're trying to put this fancy little nice

00:19:20.180 human interest story on farming which okay fair enough but the whole thing that's happening right

00:19:25.240 now is you have governments around the world that are basically trying to outlaw farming and i i know

00:19:29.680 that's an exaggeration by design but i mean just look in the uk they have a lump sum payment that

00:19:34.420 they're giving people who agree to retire from farming you have farmers in the netherlands that are

00:19:38.420 basically being pushed out of the industry you have farmers in canada that are being pushed out of

00:19:42.540 the industry either indirectly or directly and we're supposed to be like oh no no none of this is

00:19:47.400 happening government doesn't have anything to bear no no there's no cricket sandwiches for you beef is

00:19:51.460 fine corn is fine snow peas are fine but uh yeah you know it's young people young crop of farmers oh

00:19:57.140 got to use that pun okay uh we're going to drop the fertilizer uh charge a cap and just do the pun

00:20:02.900 about crops and that'll be enough right yeah that's journalism for you when i tweeted this story

00:20:08.840 uh i got a there were some hilarious reactions to what uh the article and it's funny because it's worth

00:20:16.340 mentioning this just to highlight again how journalistic this article is the person they

00:20:21.900 put as the feature image of the article is this guy wearing a perfectly clean shirt with really long

00:20:28.660 hair and one of the people commented that they were making jokes about how you know this guy clearly

00:20:34.120 probably well maybe he has but he doesn't really look like he's spent that much time on a farm and uh he

00:20:39.920 doesn't really portray the image of the classic farmer so it just kind of goes along with this

00:20:43.800 narrative of uh of the cbc being either totally totally disconnected from average regular canadians

00:20:51.340 and the and the problems that canadians face every day or just being horribly bad journalists and

00:20:57.200 totally incompetent it's really a toss-up these days one or the other will will probably uh answer

00:21:03.100 what's going on depending on the article you read from them but again like we always say on fake news

00:21:08.600 friday if we're ever in doubt or forever short on content it's just one quick one quick trip away

00:21:15.400 from the cbc website and we will easily solve our problem with uh with content now i kind of like i

00:21:22.240 mean that could actually be a new lifestyle brand the hipster farmer by cbc so it's it's no longer

00:21:27.320 farmer bill it's now like farmer caden or something so uh no offense to the cadens out there nothing

00:21:32.120 against cadens i just it's the the guy could have well have been a caden anyway uh uh so you you i think

00:21:38.100 touched off on there on a natural segue about cbc being disconnected why don't you take the lead on

00:21:42.880 this next story well yeah so of course like we talked about talk like the cbc just couldn't be

00:21:48.420 more disconnected from the average canadian and in an attempt i guess to connect with canadians

00:21:53.140 they offered canadians some parental guidance so they actually published this article earlier this

00:21:59.180 week under this under the i guess you call that a sub headline of parental guidance well the headline

00:22:04.760 of this story reads as more kids question their gender identity we need to support and accept them

00:22:10.940 so this is what the cbc wants parents this is the guidance i guess you could say the cbc is trying to

00:22:17.500 give parents uh as to how to deal with their children's sexuality as if the cbc thinks that they

00:22:24.300 have anything to say in regards to that well the cbc ran this op-ed i guess you could call it well it's

00:22:29.840 not even actually excuse me it's not even labeled an op-ed this is just labeled as parental guidance i think

00:22:34.400 this is the first time i've even seen an article like this from them anyway this woman amy bell 0.83

00:22:38.460 starts off the article in a very bizarre way in a way that i would say probably doesn't set set the

00:22:44.460 rest of the article up for success she starts off by saying andrew i'm a big fan of kids these days

00:22:50.360 they constantly amaze me and like a lot of other parents i think the way they so openly approach and

00:22:56.220 accept gender identity gender fluidity and sexuality is pretty cool well just on that note i will say

00:23:03.400 i don't really think kids are accepting this all of a sudden kids will just i believe naturally

00:23:10.700 parrot the lines or what they're being told whether it's from a parent or a teacher clearly as we know

00:23:16.500 from other reports that we've done at true north and from reporting that we know has been has been

00:23:20.640 has been taking place across the country younger and younger students are being exposed to gender

00:23:27.440 ideology in classrooms so i don't think this cbc article has it exactly right uh when they say

00:23:33.640 kids are talking about gender fluidity i think the reality is kids are now being talked to about this

00:23:39.900 stuff and tried i guess you could say convinced to think it is the new thing well it's the cbc so

00:23:45.840 i mean this is just i guess par for the course with them andrew yeah and again i mean first off i don't

00:23:51.100 think anyone should be looking to cbc for lifestyle guidance in of any way i wouldn't even take a

00:23:56.140 recipe from cbc based on some stories let alone how to raise my non-existent children but if they

00:24:02.420 did exist i you know even even though they don't exist i still think it would be dangerous to take

00:24:06.000 cues from from cbc on this but also what i i don't like here is that she's advocating a position

00:24:12.200 that is unchallenged when there is a lot of legitimate debate that's coming from experts not just from

00:24:19.920 people like us that are dismissed as you know right-wingy haiti haters or whatever but from

00:24:24.520 experts from doctors psychologists psychiatrists who are saying you know maybe we should not be

00:24:29.080 going through the road that she's proposing which is complete unquestioning gender affirmation on

00:24:34.140 children at a very young age and the challenges in this position again i mean we talked about this

00:24:39.960 with cbc kids promoting similar messages to a child audience at least this piece is directed

00:24:45.680 at parents but i i want to read one of the lines because she's talking about how

00:24:50.820 kids are supposedly more progressive and more woke than their parents so she's saying all you parents 0.82

00:24:56.440 that don't like the whole non-binary thing well your kids your kids get it so you should just butt 0.98

00:25:00.520 out and let your child identify as a girl let your child identify as a boy let your child identify as

00:25:06.380 neither if that's what you'd like and it's very prescriptive and it's very harmful i think you have a lot

00:25:12.740 of parents that have no idea how to navigate this world and now cbc is using its platform to basically

00:25:19.420 tell parents that it's hateful because they use that term in the article it's hateful if you don't

00:25:24.280 go down the road of unquestionably saying that yes your child can get up and say i'm a boy i'm a girl

00:25:28.980 i'm neither i'm one of the examples in the article a demi girl like i've heard of a demi glass when

00:25:33.820 you're cooking i've never heard of a demi girl before but it's now one of the options that we're just

00:25:38.260 supposed to say is completely a-okay and it's not about being anti-trans it's not about being

00:25:43.420 anti-gay rights it's about understanding that children are complex and we don't let me when i 0.99

00:25:48.660 was a kid there were lots of things where my parents had to tell me uh no you probably shouldn't choose

00:25:52.400 that at four years old and there's a reason that i didn't decide to you know jump off a building with

00:25:57.040 a cape because i thought i could fly or something like that because parents tell kids what certain

00:26:03.360 things are that they can't do that aren't rooted in reality and there are huge problems that come

00:26:08.780 with this mindset that cbc is putting without question without debate exactly you touch on this

00:26:14.340 point that's super important in my opinion which is where is the where is the other side of this

00:26:19.040 when it's a taxpayer funded parental guidance article i mean this is what canadians are paying

00:26:25.080 for and this is the guidance we're getting from the cbc that we all pay for again and you also

00:26:29.600 touched on this point about grounding grounding the grounding the cbc in reality this article

00:26:35.500 at the beginning again it's at the top of the article this this woman writes both of my children

00:26:40.380 have close friends who have chosen to explore and live openly with a gender that feels true to them

00:26:45.120 even if it's not what they were assigned at birth so andrew we're we're assigning genders at birth now

00:26:52.540 and we're just writing that as though it's completely uh as the way that's that's really what's going on

00:26:58.220 here as though doctors are just picking as they you know choosing when a baby is born oh this is a boy

00:27:03.760 and this is a girl when you're assigned to a birth i mean it's just it's obviously not grounded in

00:27:08.100 reality i think a lot of us are at this point where we want to say that some of this stuff is obviously

00:27:13.720 not grounded in reality but there's this pressure that says well we can't say that or we want to

00:27:18.100 again we're concerned about offending the wrong people like you said it's not about being anti-gay

00:27:23.380 rights it's not about being anti-trans it's just trying to make sure that when the cbc gives parents

00:27:28.120 guidance again unsolicited guidance i don't think anyone was asking for this piece but it's when the

00:27:32.840 cbc gives guidance to parents can it can it at least be grounded in some semblance of reality

00:27:38.560 please cbc just just put some reality around this and let's not just continue to live in this weird

00:27:44.680 fantasy land of gender assigned to them uh rather than you know actual reality of the sexes at birth

00:27:52.220 i mean that's just i think a conversation that needs to be had yeah and i don't like the inherent

00:27:57.880 reductivism in this debate where anyone who criticizes this for you know some of the reasons

00:28:03.420 you and i have articulated or other reasons gets dismissed as oh it's transphobic it's not

00:28:07.960 progressive no i'm not even saying don't adopt these sorts of views or values i'm saying that we

00:28:14.080 shouldn't have the media pushing them without question and i'm not against columns this is a

00:28:18.220 column it's opinionated that's fine i don't even have an issue with that but i have a very very hard

00:28:23.400 time believing that the cbc would take someone who was a parenting columnist that had a different view

00:28:28.560 try to write the opposite side of this so if you are a parenting columnist out there and you have the

00:28:32.960 other side pitch it to cbc and let us know what they say that does it for us for today harrison

00:28:38.500 faulkner on the other side of the virtual table here the host of the ratioed podcast and my temporary

00:28:45.160 co-host i mean he's the permanent i'm the temporary but uh the arrangement is temporary well candace is

00:28:50.800 away here uh but my thanks to you all i'm andrew lawton we will talk to you soon and this is another

00:28:55.380 fake news friday in the bag have a good weekend

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The Candice Malcolm Show - July 29, 2022

Fake News Friday ｜ The demonization of the Freedom Convoy won’t stop

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