Get ready for Canada’s first unelected WEF Prime Minister (with Keean Bexte)
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Candace Malan and Kian Bextie discuss the possibility that Mark Carney will replace Justin Trudeau as Prime Minister of Canada, and what that means for the future of the Liberal Party of Canada. They're also joined by the editor in chief of The Counter Signal, Kian Bekky Kian.
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Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you
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for joining us today. We've got a great show lined up for you today. So yesterday on the podcast,
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we talked about Mark Carney, the former central banker, and I predicted that he would become
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Canada's next prime minister. Now, I know that's not what people want to hear. Everyone thinks
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and everyone wants Pierre Polyev to be Canada's next prime minister. Polyev recently did an
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interview with Jordan Peterson, and the YouTube headline was Canada's next prime minister. But
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that's not actually true. Given what has happened and unfolded in the last few weeks here, we know
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that Pierre Polyev won't be Canada's next prime minister. Whoever replaces Justin Trudeau as the
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leader of the Liberal Party will be. It's sort of a fun little flaw in our political system, which means
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that the person who will become our prime minister is whoever the Liberal members vote, and that person
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will just automatically become prime minister, take over the party. And at this point, all signs are
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pointing to Mark Carney as the person who will likely get crowned the next prime minister. Now, of course,
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Mark Carney does not hold a seat in our parliament. He has never been elected by anyone for anything.
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So we might face a situation where we get our first unelected prime minister, and how fitting that it's
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someone like Mark Carney, a member of the global elite, a proud UEF board member. Of course, we've had
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other situations in our history where we've had prime ministers who have replaced their party leader
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and stepped in, most memorably, Kim Campbell, who replaced Brian Mulroney and took over just to get
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decimated in the election back in 1993. But at least Kim Campbell say a lot about her. One thing
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that at least she was, was an elected member of parliament, at least somebody had elected her,
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the people of Vancouver Centre. But Mark Carney hasn't been elected. He hasn't been elected by anybody.
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Now, it's kind of interesting to have someone like that, that might become our prime minister without
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any kind of a political mandate, without any kind of legitimacy. As prime minister, I've seen a lot,
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been reading a lot recently online, people making dark predictions, speculating that, hey, maybe this
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guy will try to extend his power, have some kind of a power grab, where he tries to, I don't know,
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make a deal with Jagmeet Singh, invite Jagmeet Singh to be part of his cabinet or merge the two parties.
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So rather than Jagmeet Singh following through on his pledge, where he said that he would immediately
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call an election, that he would immediately vote against the Liberals the next time the parliament
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was in session. Who knows, maybe Mark Carney will be able to make some kind of a deal, where rather
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than having election right away, we might have to wait until October or set election date. But wait,
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there's even more fine print there. And that is that Canada doesn't really have set election dates.
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The October 2025 date is written out in Elections Canada Act. But that's legislation that can be
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changed. And our constitution doesn't actually require an election only every five years. So
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it's possible that he could extend even further. This is all just sort of speculating. But it is
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just when you thought that the dystopian nightmare of this liberal government was coming to an end.
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The reality is, it might just be the start of the next chapter for Canada. So I'm really pleased to
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welcome a guest here to talk much more about this. I'm joined this morning by Kian Bextie.
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Pete Kian is an Alberta journalist and editor in chief over at The Counter Signal. Kian,
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good morning and welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.
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Yeah, right on. So Kian, what do you make of Mark Carney, his appearance the other night there on
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The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, and the fact that, you know, if he's running,
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I think all signs are pointed to him being the next prime minister of Canada.
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Yeah, every other candidate seems to be fumbling the ball. But you know, he's doing his own share of
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that too. What's concerning is what you mentioned it being dystopian, that this guy comes out
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supposedly as an outsider and is likely going to become leader of the Liberal Party. And by a result
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of that becomes our prime minister. I'm not a member of the Liberal Party. I don't think you are. And I
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don't think the majority of Canadians are. And they certainly haven't cast a ballot for Mark Carney yet.
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He's going to have the opportunity to govern a G7 country just because the Liberals chose,
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Liberal insiders chose him. So when he bills himself as an outsider, that's even more hilarious,
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right? Like Justin Trudeau's closest allies are aligning himself with him on the back end of his
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campaign. So himself, him calling himself an outsider is the biggest joke of all, I think.
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Well, there's sort of two big takeaways from that interview that he did with Jon Stewart. The first
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was that your point, he's calling himself an outsider. Everybody knows that he's been advising
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Justin Trudeau for the last five years. And even before that, he was running the Bank of Canada,
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right? So the person who's in charge of printing our money and making our monetary policy,
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not exactly an outsider. He had that role in the UK as well. So really like a power broker.
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The other interesting thing that he said, and I want to play this clip, is Mark Carney accused
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Pierre Polyev of seeing opportunity and tragedy. I think this is a bit of a revisionist history,
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right? Because with the WEF, with these sort of global elites, the whole time during COVID,
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they were talking about the opportunity of COVID as a way to change the entire economy and roll out
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this whole new green, new deal and green infrastructure. And yet, you know, here he is
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accusing Pierre Polyev of doing the thing that he did. So let's play this clip of him talking about
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There is a type of politician. There's, you have a few of them here in the United States. I think
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And, uh, we have Mr. Polyev, uh, in Canada. A type of politician who's, you know,
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Tend to worship the market. They've never actually worked in the private sector.
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Um, and they see opportunity in tragedy, like you just had with the California fires,
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And they see opportunity in tragedy to push an agenda that here's one they prepared earlier.
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And they, and they fit it in. And so, uh, whether it was Brexit here often, you know,
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the star of the beast type approach. So Pierre Polyev, when COVID started, his reaction was,
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hmm, this is a good time to cut spending and cut taxes. Everyone's just been pushed out of a job.
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Nobody's got worked. So let's cut the taxes on the work they don't have. And let's take away the
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So I just, I can't get over the fact that he, he, he accused Pierre Polyev of seeing an opportunity
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in a crisis. This is Mark Carney. Okay. Let's go back because it's not that hard to find this
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stuff, right? Back in 2020, Mark Carney wrote an op-ed in the Guardian saying the world must seize
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this opportunity to meet climate change. The, the, uh, an op-ed that he was written alongside other
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central bankers. It says former central bankers, we believe the pandemic offers a unique chance
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to green the global economy. He called in this, in this article, Kian, he said, this crisis offers
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a once in a lifetime opportunity to rebuild the economy. And that was his whole shtick. Let's green
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the economy. Let's change everything. We, we, you know, we shut down the economy because of the
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COVID crisis. We can do the same thing, uh, for climate change, a bit of hypocrisy. What's your
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The, uh, typical great reset insider. I mean, Mark Carney is as close to the world economic
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forum, uh, as anybody. Um, he's close to every single global elite you could imagine. Uh, he's
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friends with the British monarchy. He's close friends with Jelaine Maxwell. Um, now of course,
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Diane and his wife, um, is, is really the activist, um, that, that has historically, um, been working
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with, with people like the Eurasia group. Think Jerry Butts, like Justin Trudeau's closest political
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confident. Um, these, this whole family is looped in with every concern about global influence in
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Canadian government that we've had, whether it's from climate change, um, to wealth redistribution
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and using and co-opting crises like, um, the, the, the COVID pandemic and also, you know, this,
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the, the, the climate hysteria to change how our society operates economically, socially. Uh,
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he's built right into it all with everyone that he knows. Uh, and now he's using this opportunity,
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as you mentioned, as it's a, it's a perfect moment for him to seize power, uh, and start
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governing how he and Klaus Schwab and all of his friends in Davos have wanted Canada to be,
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to be governed, uh, for a long time. It just, it feels like a perfect storm, right? It's like
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you have these sort of dark shadowy forces and I get that they will accuse people like us of just
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being total conspiracy theorists and any complaints about WEF and what these global elites say and do,
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uh, is, is just, you know, for cranks and, and tinfoil hat people. Uh, but the reality is they,
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they themselves say it. They say it openly. Uh, they're very proud about the fact that,
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you know, they believe that climate change is such a crisis that we have to, you know,
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ban soccer moms from driving SUVs, or we have to find a way, uh, to change people's lifestyles.
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Like these, these global elites in Davos flying in on their private jets. I mean, it's all cliche,
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but it's, it's actually true. And you can find clips over and over again of Mark Carney
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talking about this kind of out in the open. It just seems like, it seems like a villain. It seems
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like it's written straight out of central casting, this guy coming in, um, kind of a smooth talker.
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He looks like a banker, but I don't know, maybe we're overlooking his charm. I don't know. I don't
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see it personally. I see a Michael Ignatieff 2.0, like a stiff, um, unlikable banker. Uh, but you know,
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he was getting a lot of cheers on the daily show. I don't, I don't know if that's fake or real.
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Do you think that this person can will appeal to Canadians?
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Well, let's be clear. Cheers on the daily show are fake. Uh, those people are preselected liberals
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who are going to cheer, uh, for whoever Jon Stewart tells them to cheer for. Um, and when it comes to
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his legitimacy, whether or not people are going to, you know, go along with it in Canada, who knows?
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Uh, he's pulling right now pretty well among, uh, liberals, but then again, who are liberals?
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You know, anyone can get a membership as we saw, uh, there was Xi Jinping signed up for a liberal,
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uh, membership and is going to be able to vote whoever that is. I mean, it's obviously not the
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president of China, but, uh, the, the electorate that is going to choose the next prime minister of
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Canada is shady at best and concerning, highly concerning at worst. Um, you know, mentioned
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Xi Jinping, there's actually an election process for him that gets local representation to choose
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who the president of China is through the national national people's Congress in China. I mean,
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I'm not saying that the dictator in China, uh, is this super, uh, liberal democratic figure,
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uh, but there's comparisons to be drawn that liberal party insiders are going to select our
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prime minister. Yet we, you know, we like to pride ourselves in being this democratic country, but
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the shady electorate that chooses who has executive control of our country, us not knowing who that is,
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what makes it up. And, uh, frankly, non-citizens being able to join in and choose that it is so
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concerning to me that it's it, this isn't even a Mark Carney issue for me now. It's a systemic issue
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with the liberal party that I'm concerned about. Well, it's making a complete mockery of our
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country as, as if, uh, nine years of liberal rule wasn't bad enough to completely denigrate
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any sense of national pride or what it means to be Canadian. Uh, you're right. We have a situation now
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where anyone like literally anyone can vote, uh, in the liberal leadership race is completely unsecured.
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And, uh, because of that, you could have all kinds of bad actors. You mentioned Daryl Butts,
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um, kind of behind the scenes. So, you know, just, just, uh, to fill everyone in, you know,
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Mark Carney's painting himself as an outsider. We all laugh and know that's not true. Um, and one of
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the things that points that is that Justin Trudeau's best friend and closest advisor and college friend,
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Daryl Butts, who was pretty much the architect of Trudeau's policies, especially around climate change,
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um, anti pipelines, anti energy, shutting down, uh, oil sands, uh, that all came from Daryl Butts.
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And we now learned that Daryl Butts is working for Mark Carney. I want to play this clip,
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Kiana, get your reaction to it. Kevin O'Leary was on power and politics on CBC with David Cochran
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the other night and mentioned this and watch the CBC host here, bend himself into a pretzel to try to
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defend, uh, Gerald Butts here against, uh, Kevin O'Leary's claims. Let's play that clip.
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He's in another three to $400 billion into Canada. Who doesn't want to do that? The only guy I know
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that doesn't want that is Gerald Butts. And I think we've had enough of him. Well, I mean,
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like Gerald Butts has been out of government for a long time. So I, I mean, he's Oh, wait a second.
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Wait, that's not true. Well, it is. I mean, no, he works with,
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he works with the umbrella. Let me correct you when there was a majority mandate by Trudeau and
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he had it in the first mandate, but let's put all the policy in place. Sure.
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Daniel Smith had to litigate that policy in October, 2023 to get me to bring back $70 billion into
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Canada. Gerald Butts is the antichrist of Canada. Oh, okay. Well, look, you know, Mr. Butts is,
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is a private citizen. Now he's not in public life. He does not control the government. He hasn't been
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since. So anyway, but I, but I want to move on a second. Isn't he backing the liberal leadership
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right now? Didn't I hear Carney is going to bring him in behind them? Well, he, that's an unholy union.
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Okay. All right. Well, look. An unholy. I would agree with that. What are your thoughts?
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Yeah, I think, I think Kevin O'Leary hit it out of the park. Jerry Butts has never left government. He's
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been working for the Eurasia group. I actually went down to New York to chase after him to ask him
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a few questions about some strange contracts that were awarded to him sole source. So like
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the question is, how is he getting paid? Right? Because he and Trudeau are obviously still good
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friends. It's not like he hasn't been advising Trudeau on when he should resign or what he should
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do or if he should stay on. That's just a total, total fabrication of reality. If you, if you really
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think that Justin Trudeau is not talking to Gerald Butts anymore. Now, is he getting paid by the prime
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minister's office? Well, he's not getting a salary from the prime minister's office, but he has been
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getting a lot of sole source contracts from the Canadian government. So either way,
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the taxpayer is still paying the Eurasia group. Mark Carney through Diana, you know, has
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a very close personal connection with him as well. And now I hear that is news to me that he's
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officially going to be helping on the campaign. But again, not really a surprise because he is the
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continuation of Justin Trudeau. He is the brains behind Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau wasn't running the
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government for the last nine years. He's had people behind him. And now those people have
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realized that the puppet that they've been using isn't really popular. So they want a new puppet.
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The only problem is I don't, I don't think Mark Carney is going to
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go along with everything that they say and want as much as Justin Trudeau would have, because there's
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actually, I think some, um, some IQ there, but he's still going to be pushing the agenda of the
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people that got him elected and that's going to be Jerry Butts. I don't know if Katie Telford has
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announced her support yet or if she will be doing that, but, uh, you know, they're all the same
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people to me. Well, I'll just, uh, point out some reporting from the Toronto sun. So Brian Lilly,
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uh, had a report and he reported that Mark Carney is officially part of, uh, sorry, that Gerald
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Butts is officially part of Mark Carney's team. Uh, he writes in the sun that the former top advisor,
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Gerald Butts is part of Carney's team while other close Trudeau, um, advisors, including chief of
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staff, Katie Telford are also making calls on Carney's behalf. You had Warren Kinsella, who is a
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liberal insider. Um, he had this tweet, uh, earlier this week, Kian, where he just said, Mark Carney is
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the team Trudeau candidate. His campaign is being run by Butts, Telford, et cetera. Carney equals Trudeau.
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So according to those in the know, um, it's, it's the same team. And, you know, just to go back to
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that CBC interview, I mean, this is kind of what we've come to expect from the CBC. They're just
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basically liberal, uh, talking heads that are defending the party in any way. And the thing
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that infuriates me, Kian, is this idea that Gerald Butts is a private citizen, so we should just leave
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him alone. So remarks like what, um, Kevin O'Leary said, calling him the antichrist of Canada,
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an unholy alliance, it's completely true. Uh, but according to the CBC, you're just,
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you're not allowed to even talk about them because they're private citizens now. So, so this is how
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it works. If you're a liberal, uh, you get to come into the country, govern, have unbelievable
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amounts of power, dismantle Canada's economy, destroy the middle class, destroy your economy.
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And then you just get to walk away with the private contracts and people can't even talk about you
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in the news because somehow that's offside because you're a private citizen. It's just infuriating.
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It just drives me absolutely crazy. Yeah. And, you know, I think that the main concern for a lot
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of people right now, when they see people like Mark Carney gaining, um, popularity and, um,
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us going into a federal election this year, hopefully, um, the main concern I think that's
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on people's mind is affordability and what's going on, uh, what's going to be going on in the grocery
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store and when they check out with their groceries and, you know, care has, has promised to ask the
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carbon tax and we're not really sure where Mark Carney stands on that right now. Um, in the past,
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he has vehemently supported Justin Trudeau's carbon tax. In fact, he said that it should be at $170
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per ton, which is astronomically high. Um, so he has supported in the past. Has he changed that? Has he,
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um, thought long and hard about it and decided that maybe it wasn't the best route? Well,
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really it doesn't matter because if you have people like Jerry Butts running your campaign,
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doing your policy, um, at the end of the day, they're going to be going hard on, uh, this,
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this wealth redistribution, uh, climate hysteria model that we know Jerry Butts, uh, all too well for,
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uh, he, since leaving the PMO, uh, his favorite word to use on Twitter has been climate denier.
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Anyone who wanted to, um, to disagree with Justin Trudeau's carbon tax or their climate agenda in
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whatever shape that it takes on any given day, uh, they're, they're compared to a Holocaust denier,
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which is just, uh, absolutely gutter politics, but, um, it goes to show where Jerry Butts's motivations
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lie. And from extent, uh, you know, extending from that, you can see where, uh, Mark Carney is going
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to look to and from what perspectives he will govern in either his short time in office or his
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long time in office. Well, I think that that's worked for the liberals in the past, in some
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respect, like using this issue of climate change as a leverage, sort of using it as a weapon, um,
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saying that if you don't agree with us, it's because you're ignorant and, and you don't believe
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in science or something like that. I feel like times have changed key. And I don't,
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I don't know that that argument holds water anymore. I think when we're facing an economic
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situation, like we are, where inflation is out of control, you can draw a direct line from
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inflationary policies to Mark Carney, um, in his roles as, you know, the governor of the Bank of
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Canada and then the governor of the Bank of England, uh, printing money, spending, borrowing.
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Uh, we're, we're, we're just dealing with so many real problems in our, in our economy,
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whether it be mortgages, cost of groceries, a rampant crime that has come from mass unchecked
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immigration. Um, I don't, I, I feel like climate change is like a luxury issue and it's, it's just
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not top of mind, um, for Canadians. Can you see any scenario where that changes?
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You know, like I said, people are concerned about how much their groceries cost when they check out.
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And you're right about it being a luxury issue. Um, but people like Jerry Butts there,
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we can't underestimate the rhetoric that they use and the means that they have to influence
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public opinion. Um, they are going to be interested in this topic because it's worked for them in the
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past. They've had a few of these like niche issues, right? Like calling everyone that disagrees with
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them racist. Um, you know, saying that if, if you don't agree with the carbon tax and then you're a
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a denier and every hurricane and fire that has ever happened is a result of you personally not
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wanting to pay more taxes, which it has been compelling to accessible liberal voters in the
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past. But now these accessible liberal voters and even young people, especially young people
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who you would think would be the most motivated to hear the message of the liberals because they
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have the longest future on this planet. They're not really listening anymore in the same way in the
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United States as, um, you know, record numbers of young people voted for Donald Trump. We're
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seeing the same polling in Canada that young people are actually supporting the conservatives
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in really on numbers that have not been seen in my lifetime. So this, you know,
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who knows what will happen over the next few months, right? Anything can happen,
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especially once the rip drops, poll numbers are just going to start going crazy. Um, and we have
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no idea how things are going to turn out and really what the ballot box question will be.
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Pierre wants that to be the carbon tax, but maybe Mark Carney can pull something out of the hat.
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Yeah. Well, okay. I'll just give a quick update to the audience on the liberal leadership race. So
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we heard yesterday that Francois-Philippe Champagne will not be running. He sort of teased his idea that
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he might, he might be running. Uh, it turns out he's not running. I don't think anyone cares or anyone
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thought that he stood a chance. Uh, Christy Clark, who at some point kind of seemed like she could be a
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front runner. It seemed like she, her campaign was picking up steam, um, until she did that disastrous
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interview on the CBC last week, uh, caught herself in a lie, a stupid lie. Like, I don't understand why
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you'd lie about whether or not you were a lifelong member of the liberal party or not. Uh, anyway,
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Christy Clark announced yesterday on Tuesday that she would not be running for the liberal leadership
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race. Um, and she took a chance to really attack Pierre. It seemed like kind of a character. You
00:22:35.920
know, the thing about Christy Clark is that she's pretended to be a conservative for the last number
00:22:40.000
of years. Um, and here she just kind of goes a little crazy in my opinion. Um, Pierre Polyev would
00:22:46.880
rather attack Canada. They call it Donald Trump, um, basically just calling him an extremist. We don't
00:22:52.320
need governor Polyev, uh, sort of annoying. Uh, I've seen Christy Clark at so many conservative
00:22:58.000
events over the past, like five, six years. And I was always kind of like, Hey, I thought you were
00:23:01.280
a liberal. I guess you're kind of becoming more conservative. Turns out she's not at all. Uh, we
00:23:06.880
all have a couple of other, uh, possible contenders. We hear that Christy Freeland is set to announce
00:23:11.600
her race possibly on Friday in Montreal and Karina Gould told global news that she's set to run and that she
00:23:19.840
will announce. So, you know, I, I don't have a high hope that any of these candidates, uh, will stand a
00:23:27.040
chance against someone like Mark Carney, uh, maybe Chrystia Freeland, but I don't know. I don't know
00:23:32.240
that she can really handle a leadership race. I don't know that she can distance herself from Trudeau,
00:23:36.400
given that she was his deputy prime minister. Uh, what do you, what do you think, Kian?
00:23:42.160
Yeah. You know, um, talk about just to mention what you're saying about Christy Clark, like
00:23:47.520
the Hindenburg, it was, it was nice to be able to see something so disastrous, so fast.
00:23:52.160
I just blew up. Um, and you know, before that CBC interview, I would have thought that she would
00:24:00.400
have been, um, a more likely alternative to at least Chrystia Freeland. Um, because you know that
00:24:07.040
there's, you know, you know that there's going to be, she, you know, she, you could say that she
00:24:11.520
actually was the outsider that Mark Carney says that he is. Um, it was a bit of a mask off moment
00:24:16.880
for her when she started lying like that though, because it, you know, I've been to the same
00:24:21.440
conservative events as you and we've seen Christy Clark there, but it's got to be a little vindicating
00:24:25.920
for people like John Rustad in BC and his upstart BC conservative party to know that, yeah, really,
00:24:32.000
there hasn't been a conservative party in British Columbia in all this time, including when the
00:24:36.720
liberals who build themselves as the de facto conservative party while they were in government,
00:24:41.920
um, uh, before the NDP, there hasn't really been a conservative option there in a long time,
00:24:48.080
but it's part and parcel for liberals to lie. So it's not a surprise that Chrystia was,
00:24:51.760
or not Chrystia, I'm sure Chrystia as well, but, um, Christy Clark was caught in a lie. Um,
00:24:58.560
you know, we'll, we'll, we'll have to see how it turns out for the people that actually stay in the
00:25:02.480
race, um, because it has not been going well for most of these candidates. And it's, you know,
00:25:06.640
it's great to see, um, you know, when, as I'm sure, you know, as a publisher of a conservative
00:25:12.400
outlet, I was concerned when Trudeau was leaving that we were going to lose our biggest target,
00:25:18.560
um, our biggest content generator, because he was making so many mistakes. Um, but in fact,
00:25:23.840
you know, now we just have a ton of, uh, smaller targets to go after because of all of their lies,
00:25:29.120
just building and building and building. And you mentioned Karina Gould running as well,
00:25:33.520
which is sad a little bit because she's not even going to win her own riding. So
00:25:38.080
if she wins the leadership of the liberal party, which I don't think that she will, because she's
00:25:43.280
not really, uh, inspiring candidate. And I don't think has the machine behind her to actually win.
00:25:50.960
She would just lose in her riding. She would have to kick someone out in Montreal to run there.
00:25:55.280
Uh, if she actually wanted to be in the house of commons. So, um, really this is shaping up to be a
00:26:00.320
race between Mark Carney and Christia Freeland. Um, will Christia Freeland having exited, uh,
00:26:07.840
stage left to Justin Trudeau's cap from Justin Trudeau's cabinet just a week before it blew up
00:26:12.800
be enough to separate her from his record. At the end of the day, both of these candidates
00:26:17.840
share the burden of Justin Trudeau's record. In my opinion, um, Mark Carney can't get away with it.
00:26:22.480
He's been advising Justin Trudeau for so long. He now has Justin Trudeau's advisors advising him on how
00:26:28.000
to run. Uh, and Christia Freeland, as you know, if you saw Justin Trudeau's resignation speech,
00:26:33.440
he was saying, Oh, you know, she's been involved in every decision that this government has made.
00:26:38.240
And I'm really great friends with her. It was sort of like the hug of death to give her as he departed,
00:26:44.000
uh, which I'm sure was intentional. Both of these people were the disaster of the liberal party that
00:26:48.480
they, that Canada has had to deal with over the last nine years in different ways and in different
00:26:54.080
amounts. But at the end of the day, neither of them are going to be a good prime minister. But
00:26:59.440
as you mentioned earlier, one of them will be, um, whether it's, it's Mark Carney or Christia Freeland,
00:27:05.360
there is going to be a prime minister before Pierre Polyev, um, assuming he wins. Um, and the fact
00:27:12.800
that it's going to be an unelected person from a shady constituency that we don't actually know the
00:27:18.480
electorate from, um, man, that's, that's gotta be concerning to every Canadian.
00:27:24.240
Yeah. We've got, we've got a lot of problems in our country and, you know, as much as I think that
00:27:28.880
the Canadian public will focus in on the economy during the election, I think that that will be
00:27:33.280
the ballot box question. You know, who can, who could better manage our economy? Uh, look at the
00:27:38.800
disaster that liberals have created here. And I think things are going to get a lot worse, Kian,
00:27:44.000
on January 20th. I think that Donald Trump, just based on what Danielle Smith
00:27:49.120
said after her meeting at Mar-a-Lago and her, uh, her discussion with reporters on Monday morning,
00:27:55.440
where she said that the tariffs are coming, there's not going to be any carve outs. It's going to be
00:28:00.320
across the board on day one at one of his first executive orders. I think that if anything, that
00:28:06.080
might be, um, helpful to the liberals to say that, you know, there may be the ones that have to negotiate
00:28:12.240
with Donald Trump, uh, regardless of what happens, it won't be Pierre Polyev and the conservatives
00:28:17.920
down there negotiating. It will be Justin Trudeau and the liberals and whoever replaces Justin, uh,
00:28:23.920
Trudeau. What do you think first, what's your prediction? What do you make of it all? What do
00:28:27.920
you think is going to happen, um, after these tariffs take place? And what do you make of incoming
00:28:33.040
president-elect Donald Trump? Yeah, you know, the Donald says a lot of things and what he actually
00:28:40.800
does, uh, tends to be slightly different. He does follow through, but the shape of these tariffs might
00:28:47.280
be different than what a lot of Canadians are expecting. Um, certainly the premier of Alberta
00:28:52.160
has been putting in the legwork to make sure, um, that it's not a complete disaster come January 20th.
00:28:58.240
Um, look, Canadians should be scared. Um, Justin, uh, Donald Trump does not respect the administration
00:29:05.040
of Canada. Um, the fact that he's just joking, um, or maybe serious about Justin Trudeau, uh,
00:29:12.000
being a governor of the 51st state, you know, whatever your position is on becoming an American,
00:29:18.080
you should be disappointed that our prime minister has not been able to command the respect of his peer.
00:29:24.160
Um, Justin Trudeau and Donald Trump are peers and Donald Trump knows that Justin Trudeau is a joke.
00:29:30.160
Um, by extension, the liberals and their leader, their current women and their future ones that
00:29:35.760
hold the bag for him are responsible for every tariff that is put on this country in whatever form
00:29:41.760
they are put on, uh, this country. It's not coming out of the blue as much as I think the liberals would
00:29:47.360
want us to think, uh, it's because they're seen as weak that this is happening. So, you know,
00:29:52.800
as I mentioned, Daniel Smith went down to Mar-a-Lago hope, you know, what, what she says that the
00:29:58.560
tariffs are coming, uh, following that conversation. So I hope that she has actually been able to
00:30:04.160
move the needle a little bit. I think that it would be a huge win if energy exports, um,
00:30:09.200
were exempted from that tariff because these tariffs, you know, they're going to hurt Americans
00:30:16.000
as much as they would hurt Canadians. Like it's, it is just raising taxes on both the seller and the
00:30:21.280
purchaser of goods. So nobody's really benefiting there. Uh, and the prices at pump of American
00:30:28.400
states that rely heavily on Canadian bitumen, uh, is it's going to be a sticker shock for sure.
00:30:35.040
So if energy prices could be exempt from these tariffs, that would be a huge win for Danielle
00:30:40.080
Smith. Um, you know, she was, she was, uh, liberals were really angry that she went down there to speak
00:30:46.320
with Donald Trump, which is a joke because of course, Justin Trudeau went down there to kiss
00:30:51.040
the ring a while ago and it didn't work out well for him. So it's only, uh, it's only fair that
00:30:56.800
Danielle gets her time to actually try and protect Albertan businesses that are going to bear the huge
00:31:02.800
cost and burden of Justin Trudeau's foreign policy failure here. So, um, energy exports, if they could
00:31:10.000
be exempted, that would be great. I think tariffs are coming one way or another and hoping on,
00:31:16.000
uh, a goodwill change of heart last minute is a fool's errand and it will result in disaster.
00:31:22.240
But because Justin Trudeau's cabinet has been completely AFK and because Justin Trudeau has
00:31:27.120
been spending most of his time doing a reputational media rehab tour down in the United States and not
00:31:33.600
actually doing their jobs, Canadians are going to be the ones left holding the bag of these failures.
00:31:38.560
And I don't think that, uh, any leader, any incoming leader carrying the liberal party standard is
00:31:44.400
going to be able to recover from the sheer anger that Canadians are going to throw their way
00:31:50.160
when these tariffs come and businesses start closing down.
00:31:53.200
It's kind of a convenient scapegoat though, right? Like I think you're completely right that this,
00:31:57.200
this policy and the potential tariffs are a hundred percent the fault of Justin Trudeau.
00:32:01.520
He was seen as weak. He spent the last Trump administration just basically mocking and putting
00:32:06.320
down Trump every chance he could, including, including Chrystia Freeland who went down to
00:32:10.480
Washington for NAFTA talks and couldn't resist speaking on an anti-Trump panel the night before
00:32:15.280
the negotiations, which the NAFTA negotiators took note of that. They, they noticed and they
00:32:19.360
remembered that. Um, and so yes, uh, Trudeau went down to Mar-a-Lago to kiss the ring and made things
00:32:25.200
worse, right? It was after that visit that the 51st state, uh, thing came out right before it was just
00:32:30.960
tariffs. And then after that it was like, actually, no, we're going to just annex your country and this
00:32:36.240
guy's going to become a governor, uh, which, which was funny, right? He was putting, uh, Trudeau in his
00:32:40.320
place. Um, Danielle Smith went down there and looked like she was actually building inroads. Like I saw
00:32:45.680
that as diplomacy and I could see why it would anger the libs. It seems like they just, the, the, the
00:32:51.760
government, the left, the establishment in Canada doesn't have a good answer. They don't have a good
00:32:56.560
strategy to deal with Donald Trump and hearing some of the things that are being floated key in
00:33:01.680
like the idea of a possible energy embargo against the United States, which Melanie Jolie wouldn't
00:33:07.280
rule out when she was asked about it. Um, I, I just, I got to play this clip, um, of the press
00:33:12.640
conference with Danielle Smith, where a reporter asks her this question and she just puts these
00:33:18.480
liberals in their place. Uh, let's play this clip. Yesterday, uh, foreign affairs minister,
00:33:24.160
Melanie Jolie talked about it was asked specifically if in negotiations with Trump, um, Canada would
00:33:32.880
consider an energy embargo on the United States. And I want to, um, as leverage, what do you think,
00:33:42.720
what do you make of what she said? Well, first of all, it's, uh, oil and gas is owned by the
00:33:50.720
provinces, principally Alberta, and we won't stand for that. And you should never, ever threaten
00:33:56.720
something you cannot do. And I, I would encourage the minister to look at a map of where line five
00:34:05.280
goes. Line five comes down through Michigan to get to Sarnia. And then that feeds the bulk of the
00:34:14.480
supply needed for Ontario and connects with line nine, which feeds the bulk of the product needed
00:34:21.520
for Quebec. And so if you cut off that line, you are cutting off Ontario and Quebec.
00:34:29.840
Okay. I just want to show you, cause we pulled the map. I mean, I, I love when Danielle gets into
00:34:34.480
that mode and she, she really, you know, these are our resources. They belong to the province.
00:34:39.120
Look at a map, never, ever make threats. You can't do, uh, let's just show this map. This is
00:34:43.600
courtesy of our friend, Mark Nixon on X. And he, he just, uh, let's zoom right in on that map. So this
00:34:50.480
is how, uh, oil flows in North America. And if you look at that red line, so the oil and gas from
00:34:56.240
Alberta does not go straight into Ontario, Ontario, uh, Sarnia, Toronto, and Montreal are all on that line.
00:35:04.000
They get their oil from Alberta. Yes. But it goes through the United States. So in what world,
00:35:10.000
on what planet could you even have an embargo? If you go oil, if you stop selling oil to the Americans,
00:35:16.560
you will cut off central Canada. You will cut off the vast, the vast majority of Canadians who live in
00:35:22.320
that region. Like how stupid do you have to be to propose something like that? And I loved when Danielle
00:35:27.680
Smith said, look at a map, because I don't know that these people actually have looked at a map. I
00:35:31.920
don't know that these people actually understand how our energy and resources flow in North America.
00:35:37.440
Kian, as an Albertan, what do you, what do you make of all this?
00:35:40.800
Well, you know, uh, when Melanie Julie said that, uh, obviously not understanding how pipeline
00:35:45.440
infrastructure worked. Um, me as an Albertan, having joked in the past about wanting to turn
00:35:51.120
off the taps to BC and Ontario, if their voting record didn't improve, I thought that it was pretty
00:35:56.240
hilarious that the liberals finally agreed with me. But I also, I also, you know, Daniel Smith is right
00:36:02.720
that it would cause chaos for Eastern Canada. Um, so it, it sort of shows how short sighted the
00:36:10.560
liberals have always been, but I loved that video of Danielle there. Um, and you can see the difference
00:36:17.040
in leadership, uh, and competency between her and Justin Trudeau. Just imagine Justin Trudeau actually
00:36:22.800
getting into the details and the nitty gritty of any policy. And imagine Justin Trudeau trying to
00:36:27.360
explain how pipeline infrastructure works. Like he, he doesn't actually think things at,
00:36:33.280
think about things at that level ever. And knowing that Daniel Smith actually, uh, knows what's going
00:36:39.040
on and has been willing to go engage with, um, counterparts that are not really her peers, um,
00:36:45.040
has given me a little bit of confidence going into January 20th. Uh, because if this,
00:36:49.840
if we just said, you know what, the federal government, they're responsible for dealing
00:36:53.600
with foreign countries, uh, let's just let them do their job. We would be in a huge world
00:36:59.520
in for a world of hurt come January 20th. Um, if nobody had gone down there to at least
00:37:06.720
share our side of the story, uh, and try to build inroads and build a friendship, as you mentioned,
00:37:12.400
you know, Justin Trudeau has only made things worse with Donald Trump. And it even goes to when he
00:37:18.400
was saying that Kamala Harris should have won, um, because that's what would have been good for
00:37:22.640
progress if the woman candidate one, which is just so hollow to, to, to think that that's how
00:37:29.200
these world leaders actually operate. Um, Donald Trump definitely took note of that. Um, if we
00:37:35.920
thought he was taking his foot off the gas pedal a little bit, that would have just pressed it to the
00:37:40.080
floor after he heard that. So Daniel Smith is obviously a friend of Donald Trump's administration,
00:37:46.160
not just him, but people in the administration she was building in roads with. And once they
00:37:51.200
sit around the cabinet table on January 20th, after the inauguration, and they start signing
00:37:55.840
executive orders, uh, and they start creating this, um, this external, um, revenue service that
00:38:03.040
Donald Trump has been talking about, maybe, maybe some of that goodwill that Daniel Smith has put forward
00:38:10.000
to, um, the folks at Mar-a-Lago and eventually at DC, maybe that will pay off for Canadians. Uh,
00:38:16.560
and if it does, they really only have the premier of Alberta to think.
00:38:20.400
Yeah. And it might be our last best hope at this point. So, uh, thank goodness that Daniel Smith went
00:38:26.400
and did that. Ken, I talked to a lot of people and I read a lot of comments online.
00:38:31.440
This is something that surprised me. I think that Donald Trump went after Canadians kind of where it hurts.
00:38:35.680
Like we, we are a proud people. We do feel a sense of patriotism and pride. Um, it's, it's kind of lost
00:38:43.040
at the moment because Canada is doing so badly. And I know that so many people have made the difficult
00:38:48.000
decision to up and leave Canada and to go pursue other opportunities, move their businesses to the
00:38:53.120
United States. I've even heard of people moving down to places like Mexico and Costa Rica. We reported
00:38:58.320
on a true North families moving down to South America. Um, you know, I, I, I see a lot of
00:39:04.160
sentiment that's not talked about in the Canadian media of people who think that there might be an
00:39:08.720
opportunity, um, who actually would get excited at the idea of Canada and joining the United States
00:39:14.000
that at this point they would trust Donald Trump and that administration more than they would trust
00:39:19.280
the Laurentian elites that have gotten into us into this terrible mess. Uh, and potentially with
00:39:23.680
someone like Mark Carney, uh, on the horizon set to become the next prime minister, uh, could make
00:39:29.520
things a lot worse. What are you seeing? What are you hearing? Uh, what's your sense on, uh, whether,
00:39:35.120
whether Canadians would actually be like possibly better off in a deeper union with the United States?
00:39:41.040
Well, I think a deeper union with the United States is a great idea. Um, I, I really think that that
00:39:47.200
is a huge opportunity for Canada. And I think that a lot of people saying that they want to be American
00:39:53.600
and they want to be the 51st state. What they're really saying is they want someone like Donald
00:39:58.640
Trump to be our prime minister. Um, there's some pros to being American, right? They have a first
00:40:04.240
amendment. They have a second amendment. They have a constitution that protects the individual
00:40:09.840
liberty of the person. We don't actually have an equivalent. The charter of rights and freedom,
00:40:13.840
uh, in Canada is an invasive and ineffective document that doesn't actually protect landowners.
00:40:19.680
It doesn't protect speech and it doesn't protect, um, firearms rights, along with a ton of other
00:40:25.440
very important things. There's some, there's some protections in it that Americans don't have, but
00:40:29.040
by and large, the American constitution is better than the Canadian constitution. Um, so people want
00:40:34.880
that. Um, but, and, and they want someone like Donald Trump to be their leader. Um, but going, uh,
00:40:41.280
becoming American comes with a lot of, a lot of baggage as well. Um, the amount of three letter
00:40:46.960
organizations that they have regulating things in the United States that would immediately come
00:40:51.840
and have jurisdiction over Alberta or whatever province, uh, permutation comes and joins the United
00:40:57.760
States. Um, they would then have jurisdiction over, over that. And it's a lot of red tape to just assume,
00:41:03.920
um, just having a first and second amendment doesn't really make that worth it. The logistics of
00:41:10.240
becoming a new country is absolutely insane. But like I said, I think it really is just them
00:41:15.200
saying, wow, we have terrible leadership here. Americans are getting good leadership.
00:41:21.520
We want that. Would they be saying that though, if Barack Obama was the, about to be the president
00:41:26.960
of the United States? I don't, I don't really think that they would if Joe Biden had won a second
00:41:30.720
term, would they be saying that if Kamala Harris had won, would they be saying that the answer is no,
00:41:35.120
they wouldn't, they want someone like Donald Trump to be our president. And in four years,
00:41:39.040
uh, five years, Donald Trump is not going to be president anymore. In fact, it's likely to be
00:41:43.680
a Democrat. If, um, if trends continue that historical trends in the United States continue,
00:41:49.760
um, you know, it's likely that a Democrat wins. So it would be short-sighted to move over right now.
00:41:56.480
What, what Canadians need is a good deal and a good partnership and friendship with the Americans.
00:42:01.360
It's the closest friendship in the world. Um, it's the most economically productive friendship
00:42:06.320
in the world. And we just need a leader to make that case to Donald Trump. He wants to make a deal.
00:42:12.000
This is who Donald Trump is. We need a prime minister who will make a deal for Canadians to
00:42:16.800
make us all better off Canadians and Americans. We're the closest country in the world countries
00:42:20.800
in the world. And we deserve better than the leadership that we've had between Joe Biden and
00:42:25.280
Justin Trudeau over the last four and nine years respectively. And one side of the borders,
00:42:30.560
fixing that problem come January 20th, Canadians just need to make the same change.
00:42:35.840
Yeah. And sooner the better. I completely agree. And I appreciate what you just said. There's two
00:42:39.440
things that sort of excite me and really made me interested in the sort of Donald Trump movement
00:42:43.920
that was different this time around, uh, than it was back in 2016. Uh, the first one is the sort of
00:42:48.960
make America healthy again movement with Robert F. Kennedy. I think that's really exciting. And I think
00:42:53.520
Canada could definitely have downstream effects from that. Like if Americans are re sort of re-examining
00:42:59.200
what it is that they're eating and the things that are making them sick and trying to change
00:43:02.480
the focus of the country to having healthy, strong citizenry, rather than like a sick, obese, uh,
00:43:08.400
culture hooked on like drugs and, and all kinds of pharmaceuticals. Um, I hope that Canada picks up
00:43:14.560
on that as well. I don't see a lot of it in Canada. Um, the other thing, Kian, is immigration.
00:43:18.800
And I think that the United States and Canada both need incredibly hawkish immigration system.
00:43:24.400
And when I see Donald Trump coming in saying, I'm going to secure the border, I'm going to close
00:43:28.480
the border. We're going to mass deport illegals. Um, I don't hear that equivalent on the Canadian
00:43:33.520
conservative side. And I think it's just absolutely necessary. Like we've reached a point, especially
00:43:38.640
in the GTA is it's, it's kind of hard to describe how different it feels in Toronto, how much you just
00:43:45.200
don't feel like it's Canada anymore. And, and the crime, the horrendous crimes like carjackings and
00:43:50.400
home burglars, I honestly, I can't imagine anything more terrifying than armed men coming
00:43:55.120
into your house in the middle of the night. Like, like it's, it's just unbelievable. The
00:43:59.520
things that are happening in Canada right now, we don't necessarily even feel safe and protected.
00:44:04.320
Um, if Canada were to forge some kind of an agreement, I know Kevin O'Leary has been talking
00:44:08.880
a lot about having like a shared, you know, national military space and, and having greater protection
00:44:15.680
and having more of an open flow border between Canada and the U S Canada needs to fix its
00:44:19.920
immigration system. Maybe that would take an outside, you know, agreement with the United States,
00:44:25.040
have them help us take over parts of our immigration system to mass deport the people
00:44:29.760
who shouldn't be here. Cause it seems like Canada has a very big problem, uh, when it comes to just
00:44:33.760
not even being able to deport the criminals in our country. Yeah. It's an interesting theory, uh,
00:44:40.080
similar to what the Europe, not that I'm a fan of the European union, but their Shenzhen area that they
00:44:45.520
use to actually control who is, and who is not allowed in the European, uh, union and in that
00:44:51.440
zone is an interesting, it's an interesting idea. It's not something that I've thought deeply about
00:44:56.160
in America, but it certainly could solve some problems if we adopted Donald Trump's, hopefully
00:45:03.280
hawkish immigration policy. You know, Elon Musk has not, Elon Musk, I think needs a lesson in what
00:45:09.920
has happened to Canada, um, his support of H1B visas, um, at all costs. Um, I mean, effectively
00:45:17.040
that's our, that, that is what has caused so much chaos in Canada. That is the inflation. Um, and I
00:45:24.480
guess it depends who's toggling the controls of these programs, but really, um, the entire cultural
00:45:30.080
fabric of Canada has changed over the course of Justin Trudeau's nine years. And especially over the last
00:45:34.720
four years, uh, because of people coming in for, um, for, uh, education with educational visas and,
00:45:42.400
uh, temporary work permits that then eventually stay and protest when they're told to leave.
00:45:47.360
Uh, it has completely changed this country. And now Pierre Paulyev is saying that, well, we need to
00:45:52.080
ax the tax, uh, stop the crime, fix the housing and saying all these things, you know, we need to fix
00:45:57.840
all of these issues. And the one thing that he doesn't talk about, as you mentioned is immigration,
00:46:01.760
but that really is the original sin of the Trudeau government that has caused all of these
00:46:07.200
problems from the housing crisis to crime. Uh, I mean, it's not the people that, um,
00:46:14.880
it's not the families that have homesteaded on this country for a century that are breaking into cars,
00:46:21.440
stealing them and, and murdering a family of four on their way to, you know, um, go move that car
00:46:28.800
onto a shipping container and send it to Africa. Uh, it is the people that have been brought in
00:46:33.280
by Justin Trudeau. Not that they're all bad. Um, but there has been absolutely no care or concern
00:46:39.120
to decide, hmm, does this person really need to be in Canada? Are they going to help our country
00:46:43.440
economically, or are they going to be, uh, eventually on the cycle of bail that Justin Trudeau has created
00:46:49.040
for people? So, um, I hope that when Pierre Paulyev says these things that he wants to stop the crime,
00:46:55.760
he wants to fix housing. I hope that, and it's so hard to trust these people to do the right thing
00:47:02.480
because, you know, Aaron O'Toole said he was going to do the right thing. And then he did the opposite.
00:47:06.720
But I think that Pierre is one of those people that has such a strong record of being a strong
00:47:13.120
conservative that he's going to run on these issues that are, you know, easy to talk about
00:47:18.960
fixing the housing, stopping crime. Uh, and then when he gets in, he's going to be doing a root cause
00:47:24.000
analysis and actually solving the problem. That's what I hope. Um, and I think that he's done the
00:47:29.600
political calculus that maybe he can't run yet on, on re-migration necessarily, but once he gets into
00:47:37.200
office, he's going to see, oh, well, this is the root cause. And I ran on fixing, uh, stopping crime
00:47:42.000
and fixing houses. And, and it's going to mean that people need to go home. I hope so. I hope so.
00:47:47.920
One, one, one more clip I want to share with you, Kian was, uh, Stephen Harper recently did a podcast
00:47:53.680
with a commentator, Gabe Grossman, and he, he just sort of outhand rejects the idea of, uh,
00:47:59.600
Trump's comments. He seems quite offended by it. And he, he goes through this as a clip,
00:48:03.840
he sort of tries to debunk a lot of what Trump is saying. So I'm going to play this clip and then,
00:48:09.680
um, I'll come back and, um, just a few things that, uh, Harper said here that I just don't agree with
00:48:16.240
at all. Um, and then we'll, we'll wrap it up after that. So, uh, let's play this clip of Stephen Harper.
00:48:21.920
I understand that, you know, Donald Trump may want some changes in trade arrangements, but I'm,
00:48:28.320
I must admit to being shocked by some of the things he said. They're, they're just not so, um,
00:48:35.880
you know, first of all, we, we don't actually sell dairy into the United States or sell almost none.
00:48:40.660
Um, so that, that, that's not true. Um, Canada, it is true that Canada presently has a modest trade
00:48:48.580
surplus with the United States. The reason Gabe we do is because you buy so much of our oil and gas.
00:48:55.860
In fact, you buy it at a discount to world markets. It's actually Canada that subsidizes the United
00:49:01.060
States in this regard. And, um, you know, so maybe, maybe, uh, my response is maybe Canadians,
00:49:09.300
if Mr. Trump feels this way, should be looking at selling their oil and gas to other people.
00:49:13.700
Um, we, uh, we certainly want, have always wanted to do some of that. Maybe that was the time to do
00:49:18.900
it. And when we talk about subsidizing Canadian defense, I, I don't know what he's talking about.
00:49:24.660
We have a shared defense of North America. United States does that because in the vital
00:49:28.820
electricity, you want Canada to be a neutral country. Um, you know, I, I, I, I kind of don't
00:49:36.740
understand. I just don't understand that. I don't understand that. Are you, there's many things he's
00:49:41.780
saying. He, even when you talk about migrants, first of all, there's no major migrant flow from
00:49:46.340
Canada to the United States. There's, you've obviously got an enormous problem on the Southern
00:49:50.340
border. I, by the way, I'm completely sympathetic with Donald Trump's position on this. I thought the
00:49:54.500
policy of open borders of the Biden administration was, was, was disgraceful. I mean, I think it was
00:50:01.540
a violation of president. I know Joe Biden personally, I like him, but it was a violation
00:50:06.420
of his fundamental duties for the country. Um, and of course, President Trump wants to change that.
00:50:11.860
There is no migrant flow happening from Canada to the United States in any significant numbers. And
00:50:18.180
I'm going to tell you right now, drugs, guns, crime, most of those things flow north, not south.
00:50:23.620
A lot more flows into Canada from the United States than flows out of it. So like, I have a real problem
00:50:28.900
with some of the things Donald Trump is saying. It doesn't sound to me like the pronouncements of
00:50:33.780
somebody, you know, I say wants a better deal or whatever fine, but it doesn't sound to me like
00:50:38.820
the pronouncements of somebody who's a friend, a partner, and an ally, which is what I've always thought
00:50:44.020
the United States is. Now, I think many Canadians will sort of agree with Harper's sentiment there,
00:50:49.860
that they just, that, that, that the way that Trump is talking is sort of out of line with our
00:50:54.100
historic friendship. Um, but some of the things that he specifically said there, I just want to
00:50:58.580
mention because he, you know, he's making the point about dairy subsidies saying that we don't
00:51:02.340
really sell our dairy to the U S but that's obviously not the issue. The issue is that we don't
00:51:06.500
allow imports from the U S. So Canadians could get much cheaper prices on dairy and, and much more
00:51:12.100
selection. Um, if we didn't have all of these rules and regulations, he says that Canada sort
00:51:16.500
of subsidizes us with our oil. Well, the reason that Canada sells oil to the U S at a discount
00:51:22.180
is because we want them to buy it, right? Like we do that on purpose so that they'll buy more of our
00:51:26.660
oil. Um, the comments there, the U S military, um, doesn't really protect Canada. They only do so in
00:51:33.060
their own interest. I mean, it's just kind of weird to hear Harper say that when we all know that
00:51:38.340
Canada does not pull its weight, it does not contribute its fair share when it comes to the
00:51:43.380
military or military has absolutely been hollowed out. Um, and that's only gotten worse under Trudeau.
00:51:48.660
Um, and then finally he said that there's no migrant flow, um, from Canada. Now, maybe that was
00:51:54.100
true when he was prime minister, uh, but that's just not the case anymore. Uh, I reported this for
00:51:59.140
True North back in November. Um, this is using U S data. So according to the U S customs and border
00:52:05.860
protection since 2022, 1,155 individuals on the terror watch list were caught trying to enter the
00:52:13.860
United States illegally through its Northern border can compare that to just 199 terrorists coming in
00:52:21.460
from the South. So five times as many terrorists coming to the United States from Canada, um, than
00:52:27.700
the United States. Um, I don't know how you can argue that there's no flow of people coming in from
00:52:32.420
Canada. It's just, it's just not true. Yeah. When it comes to apprehensions at the Northern border,
00:52:37.700
it can reach up to a thousand people per month. Um, I know you mentioned it was over a thousand
00:52:42.580
terrorists. That must've been in a larger period of time. Um, it's, it's, it's, it's the concern is not
00:52:51.940
necessarily even the volume, although that is a problem. Um, the volume is not the same. It is the
00:52:57.780
quality, shall we say of these migrants that are illegal migrants that are coming across. And
00:53:02.580
Canada has a huge problem as I know that you are aware of, um, you know, we're having caliphate
00:53:08.420
meetings in Mississauga to establish an Islamic caliphate. Um, these people that Justin True
00:53:14.180
has brought in under the guise of, I don't even know why, like there's no, no, no economic argument
00:53:19.380
to having these, like these, these religious colonists to come in and then pontificate and
00:53:27.380
and send their people down to the United States. The issue is, is the people that we're sending,
00:53:30.820
not necessarily the volume. So Harper's definitely wrong about that. Um, which is unfortunate,
00:53:34.980
you know, he's right. We don't, we don't export a lot of dairy. Um, I mean, that's our own fault
00:53:38.980
in our own failed supply management system. Uh, we could, and we should export a lot of dairy
00:53:42.820
to the United States, but we don't. Um, the issue about, uh, exporting oil at a discount,
00:53:47.220
kind of true, but again, it's also our own fault because we haven't in the past had
00:53:51.300
a lot of westward or eastward pipeline capacity to sell to other countries outside of the United
00:53:56.260
States. So, uh, where he definitely is wrong. There is about, uh, the problem at our border.
00:54:01.060
You know, it's, you know, it's not just a one way street though. We do get a ton of American
00:54:07.780
migration, illegal migration through places like Roxham road and others across the border. It's just
00:54:13.060
the fact that it's so, uh, uh, so permeate, uh, you know, people can go wherever they want and
00:54:19.540
that's a problem. There needs to be some sort of control, um, either as a, you know, a fortress
00:54:25.220
North America approach, or we need to clean up the border itself. If we're not willing to clean,
00:54:30.740
clean up and take care of our external, external, external, um, continental borders.
00:54:36.820
Absolutely. And I, and I really do think that if the United States is, is real about cracking down
00:54:42.260
like Trump promises, it's just a perfect opportunity that we have to do it at the
00:54:46.580
same time as the United States. And maybe, maybe a poly of government could use that as an excuse
00:54:50.740
to the Canadian people. Like, look, we don't want to do this, but we have to do it. If we want to
00:54:54.260
continue our partnership, uh, with the United States, these people all have to go and maybe that
00:54:58.580
would help them on, on a political, uh, front. Well, Kian Bexy, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much
00:55:03.140
for joining the show. Really appreciate your insights. Uh, go check Kian out over at, uh,
00:55:08.260
this, sorry, uh, over at The Signal. Awesome. Yeah. Folks can go to supportthesignal.com if
00:55:14.980
they want to check out the work that we're doing. Um, it's been a pleasure to be here. Thanks, Candice.
00:55:19.620
Okay. All right. Thank you so much, Kian. And to the audience, thank you so much for tuning in.
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I'm your host, Candice Malcolm. This is The Candice Malcolm Show. We'll be back again with all the news.