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Wyatt Claypool is a political commentator and the founder of the National Telegraph. He joins us to talk about the controversial ostrich cull in British Columbia, Canada, and why he thinks conservatives should be more involved in politics.
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Juno News. So pleased to invite and welcome our guests on today's program, one of my favorite
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guests here on The Candice Malcolm Show, talking about Wyatt Claypool. Wyatt is a political commentator
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and the founder of the National Telegraph and I wanted to bring him in to go through some of the
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big stories of the day with me. So Wyatt, welcome to the show. Great to see you.
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Well, thanks for having me on. Yeah, we're into the fall legislative season, so now everything's
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popping loose again and, you know, it always sucks to get through a summer when nothing's going on
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and you still have to do a show every day. Well, for me, I care a lot more about the cultural issues.
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So I'm here for the culture stuff and the political, like, day in and day out. Look, I worked in Ottawa
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not for very long. I didn't last very long as a political staffer, but question period. It's fun,
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especially to see someone like Pierre Polyev sort of back in his groove and grilling the
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liberal government. But I'm not one of those people that lives and dies by the parliamentary
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schedule. But there is one story that I heard so many people in the audience wanting us to cover,
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and I'm talking about the ostrich farm out in British Columbia. So I'm going to walk you through
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the story here and then I'm going to get you to comment on it, Wyatt. So back in December 2024,
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a strain of avian flu struck the Universal Ostrich Farm in Edgewood, British Columbia. So dozens of
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birds died, but the result, the rest of the flock eventually recovered and they appeared to be
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perfectly healthy. Now, despite this, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency ordered more than 400
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ostriches to be culled under its standard bird flu stamping out policies that want to kill all of the
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ostriches. The farm owners challenged the cull order, leading to a lengthy court battle, which
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eventually made its way to the Supreme Court of Canada. In early September, police began erecting hay
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bales and restricting access around the ostrich pen. And so this started to sort of make the hay and
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make a big deal on social media. And I saw big conservative and right-wing social media influencers
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and journalists and people just really outraged about this. Like a pure example of outrageous
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government overreach, totally unnecessarily going into someone's private property and ordering that
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their flock be killed when it doesn't really seem like there was a good reason. So we have some good
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news to report, which is that the Supreme Court has stayed the order. So they've put a pause on this
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order to go and kill these ostriches. And so the Supreme Court stays ostrich cull in BC amid protests and
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surprise interventions. The Supreme Court has temporarily halted the planned cull of hundreds of ostriches,
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the world's largest living bird. A day earlier, RCMP officers called in by the CFIA to help keep the
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peace during the cull, arrested the farm owners, Katie Pastelny and her mother, Karen, for allegedly
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riling up protesters when trying to feed the birds. And I know that there was some kind of like,
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people were unhappy that there wasn't more of a reaction from conservative leader, Pierre Polyev,
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from the conservative party. We didn't really hear him say much about this. The local conservative
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MP, however, MP Mel Arnold did speak out against this in parliament yesterday. So Wyatt, I'm just
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curious, like, what do you make of this whole story? Do you think the conservatives should have
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gotten more involved? Or do you think that they sort of, you know, kept their distance and that was
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probably the best move? Yeah, I can't really say what motivates their hesitancy to jump on board this
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one. I can all admit, though, that I haven't exactly been covering it myself, but that's more of just
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because people like Dre Humphrey at Rebel News have been doing such a good job on the ground of
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covering it. You know, it's one of those stories where it feels like it's hers at this point. I
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don't want to step on her toes. But I think politicians should be calling this out. And it's not just
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because do you care about the ostriches or not? It has to do with do you think that bureaucracy
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needs to be reined in in Canada? Because this has really nothing to do with the ostriches. They have
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had, they have had, like, scientists coming out, veterinary doctors, basically attesting to the fact
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that these ostriches do not pose any risk after having recovered from the avian flu. They are in fact
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being used in the manufacturing of pharmaceutical products and testing of vaccines and whatnot because
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of the ostrich eggs that they get and things in them. More complicated than I can understand. But this is
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really just the bureaucracy, the cannabis food inspection agency, just basically trying to flex
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its muscles and prove it can take these ostriches out because it has the power to. And that's pretty
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much it. And so we've been in this standoff where the government will not test the birds. The government
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will not justify why these birds need to be eliminated. They're just simply doing it because
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Well, a hundred percent. And again, it just seems to me that for all the problems we have in our
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country, right, all of the out of control crime stories that we report on here at Juneau News,
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government bureaucracy, bloated, you know, the cost of government, the cost of debt, cost of borrowing,
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our stagnant economy, out of control housing. I mean, you know all the issues, right? And it's like
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this is what they're going to focus their time and attention, going to like a small family farm
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and killing birds. To me, totally unnecessarily, totally inhumane. You know, I don't necessarily
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think that this should be the top issue for the conservatives and for Pierre Polyev. But,
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you know, it was really picking up online. People on the internet were really worked up about it on
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social media. It could have been a big W for Pierre Polyev to show up there and say,
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no, like, don't tread on me. Don't show up on my property and order my livestock to be killed.
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And we're going to stand up for the family farmer. We're going to stand up for the little guy
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for property rights and against massive government overreach could have been a victory. But I do also
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understand that they have their own priorities. You mentioned, you know, the pharmaceutical
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companies. And I want to talk a little bit about this Health Canada clash with President Trump over
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the use of Tylenol during pregnancy. And so this is one of the things, like, the audience knows I'm a big
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Maha person. I really am happy that RFKJ joined the Trump movement and the whole Make America
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Healthy Again. I'm on board for it and I want it in Canada as well. And this just seems like one of
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those reactionary things where Trump and RFK Jr. came out and said, you know, we're looking at
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evidence that shows that pregnant women should not use Tylenol excessively and that there could be a
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link to autism. And as soon as they did that, right, what does Health Canada do? They come out with the
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exact opposite, like trying to just be reactionary and defiant, like, oh, we're the pure, true liberals
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who believe the science. And whatever Trump says, we're going to say the exact opposite.
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The only problem is, of course, that the medical community has been warning about the use of
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Tylenol during pregnancy for years and years. And it's very easy to go back and look at the studies,
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to go find, you know, a Johns Hopkins study in 2019 linking elevated risk of autism and ADHD
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associated with pregnancy use of Tylenol, right? And you can look back to the same news outlets
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that were mocking President Trump this week, go back four or five years, and they were also
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publishing studies talking about how this was a risk. So here is what Health Canada said, basically,
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that Tylenol is recommended for treatment for pain and fever during pregnancy. Health Canada
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currently mandates that there is no conclusive evidence that using Tylenol as directed during
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pregnancy causes autism or other neurodevelopment disorders. You know, you can look at a box of
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Tylenol, and it will literally say not recommended during pregnancy or consult your doctor before use.
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So it's just so weird that the Health Canada would come up with this, especially when you can
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literally find expos and Twitter posts from Tylenol themselves saying, we actually don't recommend
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that you take Tylenol during pregnancy. That was in 2017. And in 2019, they admitted, we've actually
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never studied it. We have no idea whether it's safe or not, because we've never bothered to study it.
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unsmoke.ca. Okay, Wyatt, what do you make of the whole Tylenol autism connection?
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Well, it's good that you never made it as a staffer back in the day, or else you would turn into the
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sorts of people that work for Health Canada who probably just went to the shelf and bought a bottle
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of Tylenol and say, well, of course Tylenol is good. And then they just read the back of it and all
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the benefits. Oh, let's see, it reduces swelling and pain and all this stuff. Here's the thing.
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It's not like anyone is trying to make conclusive concrete statements that Tylenol will give your
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kid autism or that Tylenol will negatively affect your pregnancy. It's just in general better unless
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you know concretely the opposite, that it's okay, that you should probably not be taking any supplements,
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any medication that you don't need. That's probably good advice for anybody. Unless you absolutely need
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something, you probably shouldn't be taking anything because it has just become a very overly
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medicalized society where people need pills and people need treatments for everything when you
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could probably just eat a healthier diet. And so what we have here is that we have people inside
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the Canadian government demonstrating that they actually are not very good at their jobs in the
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sense that when you're coming out and you're just saying the opposite of what the Americans are
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saying, it's telling me that you guys don't actually do good work. If you have the time to sit
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around basically just trying to fight cultural wars with RFK Jr. and the American, like, the health
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and human services that RFK Jr. is running. And again, yeah, you mentioned it before, Tylenol has put
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out multiple times that you shouldn't be taking this thing. And now you have all these TikTok videos
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of, like, left-wing pregnant mothers taking Tylenol just to stick it to Donald Trump. It's kind of
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sickening that people live their lives that way and they would actually, you know, play fast and
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loose with their lives of their children just to dunk on someone on video. It's unbelievable. Okay,
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I want to play this clip of President Donald Trump announcing that the FDA would issue warnings to
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physicians recommending against one of the active ingredients in Tylenol during pregnancy. Let's play this
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clip. Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a very increased risk of autism. For this
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reason, they are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy unless medically
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necessary. So again, it's just like whatever Trump says, the exact opposite is what they believe. I found
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this post on X to be unbelievably telling. I want to just show it. This is a banker that I follow named
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John Lafarve. And he writes that the Tylenol story is a perfect case study that liberals will oppose
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anything Trump supports no matter what. And also, you don't hate the mainstream media enough. I think
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this could be like my mantra to live by. Like every time you just think that the mainstream media is
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awful and you can't trust them at all, they stoop even lower and show that there's even more worthy
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of your disdain. And so he shows again, here's Reuters, a mainstream credible news source in the
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United States in November saying too much Tylenol in pregnancy could affect development. And then here
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we have 12 years later, Trump links autism to Tylenol and vaccines. Claims not backed by science, right?
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And then you have here's a John Hopkins study back in November 2019 saying exactly what President Trump
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has said that taking it is associated with elevated risk for autism and ADHD. And then here he has
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screenshots of nine different academic medical research publications just saying exactly that.
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Like this is something that has been studied. The science is actually there. And yet, you know,
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the legacy media, again, they're just reactive. I feel sorry for those women who get their information
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from the legacy media. Look, I'll tell a personal anecdote. I've had four babies over the last decade
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and I've been pregnant a lot. And I am very, very skeptical of what I will put in my body at the
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time. I will read every label and yes, ask my doctor about it. And so I'm wary about taking Tylenol
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because of that exact reason. And I knew that during my pregnancies, if I had a headache or I was
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feeling pain, you know what I would do? I'd drink some water, have some tea, go for a walk, get some fresh
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air. There's so many other things that you can do. Obviously, you know, some people do have like
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worse instances of pain and they might need some kind of more pain treatment. But again, it's right
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there on the label. I personally, during one of my pregnancies, Wyatt, I suffered from really bad
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heartburn. And so my doctor prescribed heartburn medication for me and I took it. And, you know, it was
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recommended by my doctor. During my next pregnancy, I started to get heartburn again. And I went back to
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my doctor and said, could I get another prescription? And she was like, actually, the medicine that I gave
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you is now banned because it was produced in China and they found carcinogenics in the medicine.
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And we don't recommend you taking it. And like that spooked me because I'm like, I'm not taking
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anything. Right. And it's like so many of these pharmaceutical companies, like you can't even
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trust what you're taking. Right. And so I'm happy that we now have administration in Washington
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that cares about this kind of thing and is worried about this kind of thing and is there to protect
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the citizens and the people and not just Americans because Canadians can benefit from it as well.
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So I'm happy for this. And to see the Canadian reaction, I mean, it's not surprising at all,
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Well, just going back to the media element of it. And again, it's like the polish of the media
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outlets does so much for them. Like all the media is, is basically glaze at this point. There's
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really no substance there. When you actually take away the nice sets that people like Rosemary
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Barton and David Cochran sit in and the very like well-established brands that places like the New
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York Times occupies like a parasite, you know, a paper that actually used to be reputable.
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All these people, when you take away all this, they're just Redditors effectively who ended up
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getting themselves some sort of anchoring job or they work, you know, like as a writer, but they're
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not, it's not like they, they put in the extra work and they're making calls and they're trying
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to go directly to tile and all to see what they say. They, they wrote the story as soon as Donald
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Trump, although the words left his mouth. Exactly. Well, here we go. Let's, uh, we've
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got the receipts on the episode today, Wyatt. Here is a CBC news report from October, 2020,
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warning that the grung body of scientific evidence suggests that prenatal exposure to things like
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Tylenol might alter fetal development. Let's play that clip.
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And medical health experts has released an important statement on pregnancy and pain medication.
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It's part of a study in the British scientific journal, Nature, and here's what it does. It
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cautions pregnant women about using acetaminophen, and that is the active ingredient in Tylenol.
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The statement is backed by nearly 100 scientists and doctors from around the world. They insist
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a higher level of caution is needed when pregnant people use fever and pain meds that contain
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acetaminophen, including Tylenol. The authors don't have any new evidence showing the drug harms
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a developing fetus, but their statement does say a growing body of experimental and epidemiological
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research suggests that prenatal exposure to acetaminophen might alter fetal development,
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which could in turn increase the risks of certain neurodevelopmental, reproductive,
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and urogenital disorders. So this is funny. Actually, I noticed the first host there said
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pregnant women, and I'm like, okay, I guess this is like pre-woke. And then the next one was like
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pregnant people, right? And that's like, because again, heaven forbid you say pregnant ladies.
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It has to be pregnant people. They have to be gender neutral or whatever. So that's the CBC
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back when this was not a political issue and it was just an issue of science.
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Compare that to this week, the CBC writes autism and Tylenol, what the science really says.
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And they say health professionals around the world are disputing the Trump administration's
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claims about autism and its potential causes. The established peer review research on autism
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and its causes does not support either of these claims. So exactly the opposite of what they reported
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back in 2020. Look, the point of this isn't to like shame any woman out there for taking too much
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Tylenol and potentially be worried, but it's like people, you know, there has been an outrageous
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growth in autism over the last 20 years. A lot of people will link it to the proliferation of the
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vaccine schedule, which is wild, by the way. Like if you look back to when I was a kid and in the 90s,
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the number of vaccines that were required was like four compared to what they want my children to get,
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which is like, I don't know, 140. It's outrageous and insane. And so a lot of skepticism around that
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issue. I'm not saying that there's any tie, but people want to know, they want to study it. Like,
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where did this come from? Why is there this huge explosion in autism? And the Trump administration
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is actually doing something, looking into it and saying, hey, you know, it's obviously a combination
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of factors. It's obviously partially to do with, you know, something to do with the development of the
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child, something to do with environment, something to do with the genes and some combination.
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And so to say, well, maybe it is connected to excessive use of Tylenol during pregnancy,
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then people can at least have that information and move forward. But politicization of this is
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totally wild. What do you think, Wyatt? Well, and the pharmaceutical industry and the government
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don't do themselves any favors. I'm not like an anti-pharma type person. The pharmaceutical industry
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obviously has a lot more benefits than negatives over time, but every industry has lobbyists. And it feels
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like over time that like what you're noting about the vaccine schedule. I also grew up in an era where
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maybe I needed like three or four that were required and that was it. But with the rapid
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expansion kind of just feels like, well, we can just in public policy say that people need 12 and,
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you know, now you can charge three times what you used to when it comes to how many,
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how much product you're able to sell over a decade to the new parents. And now they must be able to put
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more tax money in, or they must put more of their own money in to get these different shots. And
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maybe some of them work and some of them don't, but they're the main drivers of a lot of skepticism
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because a lot of things just started feeling arbitrary over time. And then if you question
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it, you get attacked when that, which doesn't feel honest. Well, a hundred percent. And you say,
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you know, that overall you think the pharmaceutical companies are better than they are there.
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They produce more good than harm. I was there with you, Wyatt, until COVID. And then that totally
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just radicalized me. And now I have nothing but suspicion and I don't trust them. And it's sad
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that I don't even trust my own family doctor because when she tells me that my infant baby
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needs a COVID vaccine, I don't know that much about the other vaccines, but I know about the COVID
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vaccine and there is no way that I would give it to a child. And so again, when they're recommending
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that to me and they're recommending all these other hosts of vaccines that I don't know or don't
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believe to be necessary, it really makes you skeptical. And so does something like this,
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I pointed to tweets and X posts by the company Tylenol. Here it is, March 7th, 2017. We don't
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actually recommend using any of our products while pregnant. Thanks for taking the time to voice
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your concerns. Another one from 2019 admitting that they've never tested their products on pregnant
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ladies. While they've changed their mind and here they are issuing a statement in the follow-up of the
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Trump administration's announcements, Tylenol, we stand with the science and we stand with you
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and now they're saying that Tylenol is one of the most studied medications in history and it is safe
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to use as directed by expecting mothers, infants and children. There is no credible evidence linking
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our product with autism. So they've changed their position, they've changed the science just in the
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wake of the president. So again, it's putting politics ahead of the health of the people and I think
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that that is the problem that so many people are concerned about. Okay, I have one more topic that
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Okay, so we're talking about President Trump and the reaction. I want to stay with this issue and
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talk about what the Trump administration has done through an executive order listing Antifa
00:22:21.840
as a domestic terrorist group. So on Monday, President Trump signed an executive order which
00:22:26.820
designated Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. Trump announced that last Wednesday
00:22:32.080
that his administration was preparing the order. Now, up here in Canada, the liberal government
00:22:36.920
remains silent on whether it will follow Trump's lead to label Antifa terrorists. We haven't heard
00:22:43.320
anything about that. And it's interesting because at the same time, what is in the news? Well,
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the liberals are also silent on an Antifa-linked group here in Canada, the Anti-Hate Network,
00:22:56.020
which is funded in part through grants from the Trudeau government. And so, you know, we had court cases
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and court papers that showed links between these two organizations. It's really, really interesting
00:23:09.340
to see how these sort of left, violent, radical, like left-wing groups, not only do they fly below
00:23:17.040
the radar, but they're actually being supported and promoted in some ways through government funding
00:23:23.700
and these organizations. What is your take on all this, Wyatt?
00:23:27.440
Well, yeah. And what you have with the Anti-Hate Network and other organizations like Press Progress,
00:23:33.780
not that Press Progress exactly has Antifa ties the way the Anti-Hate Network does, but what this ends
00:23:39.340
up being is kind of a, almost a siloed off, like a siloed off part of both the liberal government as well
00:23:48.920
as the media, where they can do a lot of the dirty work that those organizations, the mainstream media
00:23:54.240
and the liberal government cannot do. And there is a reason why, again, our government gives so much
00:23:59.420
money to the Anti-Hate Network every year, because while they're not fighting hate, when you actually
00:24:05.960
go through all the reporting that this organization does, yeah, they'll call out the occasional skinhead
00:24:10.940
here and there that nobody was on the side of and nobody thought was a good guy. But what it ends up
00:24:15.960
being is a narrative laundering organization in order to smear conservatives. The Anti-Hate Network,
00:24:21.580
led, I believe, still by Bernie Farber, effectively goes around using anti-anonymous Antifa accounts
00:24:28.520
online in order to collect information on people, oftentimes completely warped and twisted out of
00:24:34.240
context, in order to link normal conservatives with the very, very few fringe extremists around
00:24:40.800
Canada. You know, you've once been in the same room as somebody who's a racist, and he's like the one
00:24:46.340
racist in your small town, and they're going to make sure that they're connected back to you.
00:24:50.240
But the Anti-Hate Network and organizations like Press Progress give the media permission to then
00:24:56.320
smear you as like a sort of a second layer smear. That the Anti-Hate Network was the one who said the
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defamatory things about you. And then the CBC just cites an expert who is from the Anti-Hate Network
00:25:08.260
saying that you're a terrible person. And so this has been, it's hurt a lot of careers in Canada over
00:25:13.440
time. Government-funded organization who could never pull a dollar in themselves if they actually had to do
00:25:19.360
it, going around basically trying to smear you through innuendo and very out-of-context associations.
00:25:27.440
Well, it's so true, right? Like these groups you mentioned, Press Progress, I don't even
00:25:31.220
usually acknowledge them. They do write pieces about True North, about Juno News. They even wrote a
00:25:35.840
piece about my husband and I full of nothing but lies and smears. And I don't bother acknowledging it
00:25:41.760
because I don't want to give them any more publicity. Like I don't want to send my audience over to their
00:25:45.860
page so that they get more page clips. But you're exactly right. Like they are working full time.
00:25:51.180
Like there are at least a dozen, if not more, journalists in Canada whose sole job is to try
00:25:56.820
to cancel conservatives, to try to cancel right-wingers, to say, look at how extreme they are,
00:26:00.680
to find like crazy guilt by association, six degrees of separation, and hit you with that smear that
00:26:06.940
you're far right and hope that someone in the legacy media will pick it up. And I think that it's time
00:26:12.420
for us to give them a dose of their own medicine, right? Like here you have the Anti-Hate Network,
00:26:17.800
an absolutely outrageous organization who has written about True North in the past. And I don't
00:26:23.060
even respond to their emails when they send them to me because they're just such liars.
00:26:26.860
But, you know, a small claims court accepted evidence that the Canadian Anti-Hate Network did
00:26:32.580
assist Antifa and the far left extremist group, which has been violent. And we know that they're
00:26:37.420
violent in Canada. We see them being violent. They were violent at Christie Pitts Park a couple of
00:26:41.360
weekends ago. They were violent at the Sean Foyte concert in Montreal where they threw a smoke bomb
00:26:46.380
in and they were out there waving an Antifa flag. You know, you have people like Doug Saunders in
00:26:51.640
the Globe and Mail gaslighting Canadians saying Antifa doesn't exist. It's not a real organization.
00:26:55.900
It's like a figment of their imagination. It's not true, right? We see their flags. We see them out.
00:27:00.520
We know exactly who they are and they are violent. And these groups sit here and try to pretend
00:27:05.180
that there's some problem with far-right violence in Canada. Like, I'm sorry, if I actually see evidence
00:27:11.080
of the far-right, when I think of the far-right, I think of Nazis and neo-Nazis and white supremacists.
00:27:15.860
And I don't see that in Canada. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Maybe there's a few of them,
00:27:19.800
but I don't see it. I don't see it as a problem. I don't notice it online. It's not something that
00:27:24.060
I think of as a major problem in this country. I do see Antifa. Antifa is out there. They are violent.
00:27:29.680
And we are living through a dangerous time, a time of political violence. We saw Charlie Kirk,
00:27:35.000
the leader, one of the top conservative voices in the world, assassinated in the middle of a free
00:27:41.700
speech debate. And, you know, this is a problem. We see left-wing violence. It is exploding currently.
00:27:47.680
We saw an ICE facility get shot up the other day. You know, there was a shooting at an ABC affiliate
00:27:53.460
after the announcement that they were canceling Jimmy Kimmel's show, which has now been put on
00:27:57.040
the air. But there is a problem with left-wing violence. And I'm glad that it is being exposed.
00:28:02.920
I hope that the Canadian government will follow suit. And I just want to give the audience a quick
00:28:06.900
update because I covered this on the show last week. This is another example, right?
00:28:10.220
Press Progress wrote a hit piece about my husband and I. It was false. It was full of nonsense and lies.
00:28:15.740
And unfortunately, the Globe and Mail picked up some of that information and published it in a piece
00:28:22.080
about my husband. So my husband got a new job. He was named the CEO of Opendoor, which is a technology
00:28:28.360
company. And in the news write-up, this is a business reporter, right? This isn't an opinion
00:28:33.340
piece. This isn't Andrew Coyne, whatever. This is a business reporter. And the way that she wrote
00:28:40.880
about my husband and his new job, she classified us as part of the far right. And she wrote pieces
00:28:48.080
that quoted Press Progress. Well, I took it up with the editor of the Globe and Mail because I wasn't
00:28:52.880
happy about it. I thought it was outrageous. It was wrong. It was full of lies. I'm happy to report
00:28:57.080
that the Globe and Mail has issued a correction on that piece. So you can now see, here it is,
00:29:02.740
Shopify chief operating officer is leaving the company to join Opendoor Technologies. And there
00:29:08.580
is a long correction at the bottom. And so it says, editors know, an earlier version of this article
00:29:13.460
incorrectly stated that prior to his role at Shopify, Kazajatian served as a political staffer in
00:29:18.140
the Conservative Party under then Immigration Minister Jason Kenney. Mr. Jatian served as a
00:29:22.320
staffer for Mr. Kenney, a former Conservative MP, when he was Immigration Minister. The way that they
00:29:28.240
write this correction is truly outrageous. But they want you, they want to waste your time as much as
00:29:32.480
possible. So you don't. Yeah, they're just like trying to make it technical. Yeah, we basically
00:29:35.320
call them the extremists for no reason. Yeah. And then, and then it also says the article
00:29:39.020
incorrectly stated that Mr. Jatian co-founded the True North Media website with his wife, Candace
00:29:44.100
Malcolm. Mr. Jatian sits on the board of True North, a charity that connected to the
00:29:48.120
media website, which his wife started. So, I mean, I, like, I took issue with a lot in that
00:29:53.440
Global Mail report. There are five paragraphs that were just totally outrageous. And they issued,
00:29:57.880
you know, minor corrections here and there. But, you know, I'll still take it. They admitted that
00:30:03.660
they lied and that they were wrong. And don't, you know, don't go around quoting press progress
00:30:08.080
pieces, smearing my family and expect to get away with it. So I was happy at least that they issued
00:30:13.340
that correction. What do you, what do you make of the fact that press progress now gets quoted
00:30:18.660
by the Globe and Mail in a news piece by a business reporter?
00:30:23.300
Back when I was running for the Calgary Signal Hill Conservative Party nomination, I got smeared by press
00:30:28.820
progress. And one of the people that used to smear me is now sitting as a sender. It's Dr. Christopher
00:30:34.780
Wells. And it's outrageous the kind of people that they will even cite as guests. Because I, at the time,
00:30:41.200
when they had sent me, like, a media request, hey, well, Wyatt, we're about to call you, like,
00:30:45.220
transphobic and that you hate gay people or whatever, I ended up just making a video in
00:30:50.280
response before their, before the time limit was even up. They only literally gave me three hours
00:30:55.460
to respond, by the way, which is super professional. When I've accused people, or I've gone after people
00:31:00.920
for really big stuff back in the day when I used to write, we would give two 48-hour periods of
00:31:06.980
notice. So that there was never a, we're not just getting somebody on an off hour, they're taking a
00:31:11.940
nap, and they didn't, weren't able to respond. But I went through the people they were citing as experts.
00:31:16.800
And these people are anti-Semitic, they're communists, they're extremely far left and in
00:31:21.700
favor of violence. And even some of the writers at Press Progress, like Steve Magusiak, I see, I, I,
00:31:28.040
if I type in his handle on X, and I just type in communism, you know, Israel, I'll just type in some
00:31:34.420
keywords, right? I could assume some far left person says some extremely concerning things.
00:31:39.420
And you'll see all these threads where it's like, deleted post, deleted post, deleted post,
00:31:42.460
and it's clearly only Steve's. And people are reacting to him, he's like, are you saying it was
00:31:46.000
good that people were shot, killed in the whole lot of more? Like, people are reacting to him
00:31:49.900
saying insane stuff. This person works for the organization who would smear you for just showing
00:31:55.100
up to an event that's, like, pushing for lower immigration, you know, that wants gender theory out
00:32:01.340
of schools. Right now, and this is part of it, you get some slightly more mainstream outlets who do
00:32:06.400
the same thing. So I help work with the 1BC party in British Columbia, and we've had one of our events
00:32:12.720
shut down in Penticton, because a local queer activist by their own, by their own, like, label,
00:32:19.900
has got a shutdown at one of the conference centers, and then we went to another one, and they
00:32:25.120
resisted all the pressure. And when that person who was running the second location we went to
00:32:31.340
leaked all the person's messages basically saying that we're racist and we're hateful,
00:32:35.180
that person said that we were, they were being doxxed. That none of their personal information
00:32:39.260
was released. Simply, this person whose name is Loki Boki, I'm not sure if that's a made-up name
00:32:44.560
or their actual born name, who knows. It's apparently doxxing for people to know they're going around
00:32:49.720
smearing people. And the Taiyi will report on 1BC and just call us extremists, well, because this
00:32:56.020
random activist said so. And that's, again, it goes back to the media are just a bunch of
00:33:01.820
Redditors with more polish. They have the thought process of a Reddit moderator, and just having a
00:33:08.160
nice website doesn't mean that it's well-researched. Oftentimes, it's just some random person said
00:33:13.380
something, they agree with them, so they printed it. Well, exactly. And this is what they do, and I
00:33:18.360
don't mean to, like, make it all about myself and my family, but I just think it's a perfect example
00:33:22.180
of how they launder a smear, right? So in this Globe and Mail article about my husband, this is
00:33:28.540
the game that they play. They say that Kaz, first of all, they incorrectly said that he was a staffer
00:33:34.580
for the Conservative Party. I read the correction. He wasn't. He worked for the minister, so he worked
00:33:38.200
in the government. Then it says that he gets the frequent attention for his association with True
00:33:43.720
North, and then basically they had said incorrectly that he was the founder of it, even though he
00:33:49.160
wasn't. But Press Progress pushes this idea that my husband started it, even though he didn't. I started
00:33:54.460
it, and I had proof, and that's why the Globe and Mail switched it back to saying that his wife started
00:33:58.440
it, not him. So Kaz is married to me. So that's one degree of separation. His wife started a company,
00:34:05.220
right? That company is called True North. And then it says, in 2024, True North published and subsequently
00:34:10.240
removed an interview with the founder of the Proud Boys, right? And then it says, public safety describes
00:34:16.520
the Proud Boys as a neo-fascist terrorist organization associated with white supremacist
00:34:20.360
ideology. So that's two more degrees of separation, right? So Kaz is married to me. I started an
00:34:25.660
organization. A journalist at my organization sat down and did an interview with Gavin McInnes.
00:34:31.160
Gavin McInnes then left the Proud Boys, and after he left the organization, it got designated as a
00:34:36.840
terrorist group. So to go from Kaz to Candace, down to one of my journalists, across to Gavin McInnes,
00:34:42.500
and then from Gavin, an organization that he's no longer affiliated with. That's five degrees of separation.
00:34:46.340
It wasn't like he left, and then the day after they were designated as a terrorist organization.
00:34:51.280
Five years beforehand, because it was just a joke group he started, and then he left when he started
00:34:56.720
doing other media stuff, and then it turned into something else. And again, it's hilarious that we
00:35:01.380
cannot label Antifa as a terrorist group, but we label the Proud Boys. You know, I'm not exactly a fan of the
00:35:08.000
things that Proud Boys do, but they only really engage in street violence with Antifa. They don't
00:35:15.180
go around trying to, like, you know, pick over tables and blare horns when a left-wing speaker
00:35:22.000
They don't firebomb, like, churches or the left-wing equivalent, right? They don't firebomb
00:35:29.000
Right, right. So all that's to say, like, I don't like Gavin McInnes. I don't like Proud Boys.
00:35:33.520
The other caveat that I mentioned to the Globe and Mail was that that interview was published a few days
00:35:38.120
after my child was born, and so I was, like, on a maternity leave. So I wasn't actually, like, running
00:35:42.800
the organization at the time. They didn't care, right? It was all just part of a smear. And so it's like,
00:35:46.940
you know, my husband gets a new job, the Globe and Mail's writing about it, and they think that their audience,
00:35:50.760
like, the most important thing that they need to know about Kaz, who's running this company,
00:35:55.900
is that his wife's company had a journalist that sat down with someone who had, at some point previously
00:36:01.520
in their career, done this. And the funny thing is that the Globe and Mail also interviewed Gavin
00:36:05.180
McInnes, right? The CBC also sat down with an interview with Gavin McInnes, like, the same
00:36:09.680
month that one of our journalists at True North did. So it's like, somehow it's okay for them to do it
00:36:14.180
and not for us. It is so outrageous how they put a target on our back, and I'm going to just tie this
00:36:19.140
back, and then we'll wrap this up, Wyatt. Tie it back to Charlie Kirk, right? Because part of the
00:36:24.720
reason that he was assassinated is because the media did this to him, right? The media called him
00:36:28.780
a far left, or sorry, far right. They called him a Nazi. They called him a fascist. They were okay
00:36:33.300
with pushing that idea, which put a target on his back, ultimately, that ended in the tragic loss of
00:36:37.920
his life, right? The unfathomable, cold-blooded murder during a political event, during a university
00:36:44.360
debate, right? And so this is the outcome of what they do, right? They put targets on our backs. They
00:36:49.080
use outrageous smears to describe us, and crazy people out there listen and take it seriously, and I just
00:36:54.640
think it's so reckless that they do this kind of thing. I'm glad that it's getting exposed.
00:36:58.260
I'm glad that some editor over there at the Globe and Mail was like, yeah, we probably shouldn't
00:37:02.060
just peddle this total lie from Press Progress in our paper, which we pretend to be prestigious and
00:37:07.780
like the paper of record. And I'm happy, at least, but I think we still need to call it out and tell
00:37:13.620
people how outrageous it is that conservatives, and again, it's not just me and my husband. This is
00:37:18.000
an example, but Press Progress does this every day. They do it to you, Wyatt. They do it to conservative
00:37:21.980
MPs. They do it to Pierre Polly all the time. They call him far right. They peddle these dangerous
00:37:27.620
terms, and it's not good for anybody, and I hope that it leads to them losing their credibility.
00:37:35.420
I hate the equivalency that people will create between, you know, a conservative saying someone's
00:37:41.660
a socialist or a communist here and there when they don't like a policy from someone, and then
00:37:46.280
the left relentlessly calling people far right, you're a Nazi, you're a fascist. And it's not just
00:37:51.680
they throw, you know, they don't like saying he did, and ah, he's such a fascist. And then they
00:37:55.200
move on, they don't repeat that. It'll be repeated every day. He's a danger. He has to be stopped.
00:37:59.880
And it's constantly this, where on the right, you sometimes jab people, you sometimes put
00:38:04.480
maybe an unkind label, but it doesn't go past that. It doesn't become the eyes popping out of
00:38:09.860
your skull. This guy has to be stopped, or everyone's going to lose their rights. It never goes there.
00:38:14.220
Is there right-wing violence? Sure. But it really isn't connected to the mainstream of the right
00:38:21.440
telling people that these things, you know, would be maybe okay if they happened, or this person
00:38:26.900
needs to be stopped. You really cannot find that rhetoric on the right. Although I was going to say
00:38:32.220
that you are, in a certain sense, right, to say the far left label earlier, because the funny thing is
00:38:37.620
they will label people as Nazis, even though, so they're already smearing you by calling you
00:38:44.080
like a Nazi. And then they'll say far right, but it's like, well, you're, there's a lot of,
00:38:49.420
here's all the laundering. People don't actually know this. Back after the World War II, in the
00:38:53.680
40s and 50s, the Soviet Union tried to find a way of smearing conservatives as having generated
00:39:00.400
the Nazis, even though they are the national socialists, believe in socialism, and there's
00:39:05.580
nothing that actually makes them right-wing. So that's my little pet peeve. I always hate when
00:39:09.940
people say the fascists and social and national socialists are somehow right-wing. They're
00:39:14.780
totalitarian, anti-free speech, anti-liberty, and being racist isn't right-wing. Just look at
00:39:25.200
100 percent. Wyatt, well, I always appreciate having you on the show. Thanks so much. I appreciate
00:39:30.540
the time, Wyatt, and we'll hope to see you again soon. Okay, folks, I am pleased now to be joined by
00:39:36.600
Jonathan Wellam. Jonathan is the President and CEO of Rocklink Investment. Rocklink is an independent
00:39:41.700
investment management firm focused on creating portfolios of high-quality assets. It's based
00:39:46.120
in Burlington, Ontario. They are a proud sponsor of Juno News. So, Jonathan, welcome to the show.
00:39:53.800
Good to see you again, Candice, and enjoy the programs that you've been doing the last little
00:39:59.480
Great. Well, I appreciate it. So I wanted to bring you on today to talk a little bit about
00:40:03.200
the fiscal situation in Canada. Mark Carney and the PBO warn of a mega budget deficit,
00:40:11.160
no balance budget goal. As Carney the Liberal announces, this mega budget deficit came out
00:40:16.260
September 15th. Both Prime Minister Mark Carney, Government of House Leader Steve McKinnon have
00:40:21.420
told Canadians to prepare for a hefty deficit in the upcoming budget, but the refusal to provide an
00:40:26.880
exact estimate of the shortfall. You know, usually when a government comes in, I mean, they were elected,
00:40:30.700
we expected some kind of an update in the spring. We didn't get anything. We're told it's coming in
00:40:35.860
the fall and to sort of brace for it. I imagine that they're going to try to do exactly what
00:40:39.320
Trudeau did, which is just spend their way out of financial trouble. So I'm wondering if you can
00:40:45.180
Well, in fact, according to the numbers that are coming down the pipe, it looks like he'll be
00:40:50.020
spending, that is, Mark Carney will be spending probably up to $100 billion more over the next
00:40:55.040
little while than what was already factored into the Trudeau budgets going forward. And so,
00:41:01.100
no, I think we are in a much worse position. And when you look at the breakdown of where he's
00:41:05.320
spending the money, I mean, he's doing a lot of smoke and mirrors. He's talking about balancing
00:41:10.140
the operating budget in three years and so forth, but then he's separating the operating day-to-day
00:41:14.700
budget from capital spending. But a lot of the capital spending, you have to really look at what
00:41:19.060
he's doing there. It's just, it's ridiculous. It's not really being, going into the right kind
00:41:23.100
of projects. And we can't really trust the government in terms of where it's spending
00:41:27.680
its money. So it's very concerning. Basically, as you know, the public sector has been growing at
00:41:33.320
two, three times the rate of growth in the economy. And that's overall growth. That's not growth per
00:41:37.800
capita, which has actually been shrinking. And so we've just been this massive expansion of the
00:41:42.380
state in Canada the last 10 years. And this does not look like it's stopping, regardless of what
00:41:46.500
you're saying. Well, I think that Canadians are worried about that, but we're also worried about
00:41:50.420
the broader economy. I know that, you know, anytime that there is jobs numbers, they're not as strong
00:41:55.120
as what analysts had expected. It feels like the economy is certainly under stress. I don't know
00:42:00.020
that it's currently in a recession. It doesn't quite meet the definition, but it seems like we might be
00:42:03.900
heading in that direction. I don't think you have a crystal ball over there, Jonathan, but I'm
00:42:08.060
wondering, what do you expect for the Canadian economy? I know that it doesn't necessarily have to do
00:42:12.580
with the government. The government has a lot to do with the environment. Do people want to invest
00:42:18.560
in the country? Do people want to start businesses? Is now a good time to buy a house? Like, what do
00:42:23.360
you think of the current state of the Canadian economy? Yeah, I'd argue the current economy is
00:42:27.940
actually in a recession. If you look at the growth GDP per capita, because we've just swamped the
00:42:33.400
country with immigrants. And so, yeah, you can keep this sort of growth going overall, but it's really
00:42:38.300
per person that you should be looking at. That's number one. Number two, over the last 10 years,
00:42:42.220
we've starved the Canadian economy of capital. And so the best estimates, again, from experts who
00:42:47.660
have looked at this is through, because of, you know, C-69, C-48, all the moratoriums on oil and gas
00:42:55.160
and so forth, that's led to a shortfall of $670 billion of capital over the last 10 years. So if you
00:43:02.320
pull $670 billion that, you know, didn't go into the economy, that would generate well over a trillion
00:43:08.360
and a half in GDP over a number of years. And so, of course, people are going to be feeling that.
00:43:13.920
If you're not, if you, again, if you pull capital out and capital is not coming into the country,
00:43:18.120
it's not being invested in, you know, capital projects, infrastructure, building and utilizing
00:43:22.820
our natural resources, then Canada is not going to be expanding. It's not going to be growing and
00:43:27.860
we're not going to be creating the jobs. I mean, just the estimates off of $670 billion,
00:43:32.880
you're talking there hundreds of thousands of jobs that were not created. And then all of the
00:43:38.140
multiplier effect of that in the economy. And so the longer this goes on, the more we're really
00:43:43.060
going to feel it in Canada, because we now are falling further and further behind our competitors,
00:43:48.900
in particular the United States, because what Donald Trump's doing is the exact opposite.
00:43:53.400
He's cranking up the capital. He's lowering taxes. He's lowering regulations. He's making it easier
00:43:58.800
for businesses to come in. And he's also using some leverage, you know, the tariffs and the power
00:44:03.100
of the U.S. economy. And why would anybody invest more money in Canada when you can go south of the
00:44:09.180
border and have your capital respected? Well, it's such an interesting time, right? Because you do have
00:44:14.640
Trump sort of temporarily disrupting the flow of the economy through the new measures of tariffs and
00:44:20.600
trying to raise money in different ways, including, interestingly, putting price tags on,
00:44:25.820
you know, the equivalent of a temporary foreign worker saying, sure, you can continue to do this H-1B
00:44:30.240
program, but you have to pay $100,000 per year per employee, which, you know, makes it so that
00:44:35.580
Americans can be more competitive. Or, hey, you can have a green card. You just have to pay us a million
00:44:39.220
dollars. Interesting ways to raise money, but obviously a little bit disruptive in the economy.
00:44:44.100
But the long-term goal, the medium to long-term goal, is to re-industrialize America, right? We saw during
00:44:49.360
globalization, 80s, 90s, 2000s, just total outsourcing of jobs and good sort of middle-class
00:44:55.440
manufacturing jobs. When it came to, like, the new tech manufacturing jobs, it was all happening
00:44:59.940
overseas, mostly in Asia and in China. And Trump is taking measures, and it might be temporarily,
00:45:05.640
you know, harmful because of, you know, the uncertainty that it might create. But in the
00:45:10.580
long run, it's like you're going to get those jobs back into America, and you're getting people excited
00:45:15.300
about building the American, you know, resurgence and revival. And I wish that Canada would get on
00:45:21.480
board with that, and I wish Canada would say, yes, we want to do that too. Let's be your partner,
00:45:24.820
and let's build and grow. And I'm seeing a lot of optimism from my friends in places like the
00:45:30.080
Silicon Valley and New York, and, you know, those are blue cities, and people are still excited
00:45:34.080
about the Trump administration, you know, let alone the revival that's happening around the
00:45:38.180
rest of the country. It seems like we're kind of missing out on that. What do you think?
00:45:42.640
Well, you know, absolutely we're missing out on it completely. I mean, we're following
00:45:46.280
diametrically opposite policies. We're continuing the global agenda, and Trump has said no more.
00:45:51.760
He spoke at the UN just yesterday, or the day before, and that was an amazing speech. He laid
00:45:58.320
it out. He said, no, we're not going to sacrifice our economy. We're not going to, you know, bow before
00:46:03.180
the green agenda, which is absolutely nonsense and a scam, as he mentioned at the session.
00:46:08.900
Meanwhile, we've got our prime minister there saying, you know, we're going to continue with all
00:46:12.860
the, you know, the decarbonization and all of the green agenda, which is expensive,
00:46:17.820
and it will be inflationary, and it will put people out of jobs when the U.S. is going to do
00:46:23.200
the exact opposite. And so, no, that's why people are excited in the States. I mean, there's a bit
00:46:27.780
of detox going on in the U.S. because you have to clean up the mess that was left there from, you know,
00:46:33.620
many, many regimes, especially, of course, the last four years with Biden. But, you know, when you're
00:46:38.140
stopping the net flow of illegal immigrants, yeah, there's going to be some short-term pain for that.
00:46:42.700
But now you're investing back in Americans. You're investing back in your own people,
00:46:46.900
which is what the game plan should be for any government. You're also, yeah, maybe prices go
00:46:51.880
up a little bit because you're not offshoring a lot of the manufacturing, but then all of the money
00:46:56.100
stays in your country. So you're paying higher wages to people who will be able to go back into
00:47:00.160
the stores, buy the cars in your own country. And so, yeah, what Donald Trump is doing is amazing.
00:47:07.400
I mean, it's a complete reversal of globalization and the gutting and the hollowing out of the
00:47:13.380
Western countries, which is what we've seen over the last number of decades. And he said,
00:47:17.240
enough is enough. And so I think people will get excited. And we're right next to the U.S.
00:47:22.020
instead of taking the cue from them and doing what is right, we're still aligning ourselves with the
00:47:28.000
failing European economies, as Trump pointed out and has addressed to. I mean,
00:47:32.880
the decisions they made are, they're killing themselves. It's absolute suicide.
00:47:37.340
Right. It looks like a dying civilization over there. I want to mention this national billboard
00:47:41.920
blitz. Juno News covered this exclusive national billboard blitz, giving Kearney a failing grade.
00:47:46.760
So you might see these billboards popping up on a freeway near you. And here is that we reported
00:47:51.820
Canadians may soon see billboards across the country, giving Prime Minister Mark Kearney a failing
00:47:56.020
grade in its first six month. Buffalo Project launched a new campaign on Wednesday with billboards
00:48:00.360
popping up in major cities like Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatoon, and even Nepean,
00:48:04.680
which Kearney represents in the House of Commons. The campaign's report card, which you can check out
00:48:08.780
at reportonkearney.ca, graded Kearney on the joint demands made by Alberta and Saskatchewan.
00:48:15.440
While he mostly was given Fs and F-minuses, he did get a C for creating a trade and energy corridor,
00:48:21.740
which he's planning to do, right? That's what Bill, I think, C2 plans to do. Or is it C5? One of the two.
00:48:27.420
But he hasn't done it yet. And it's interesting because during the election campaign, he was
00:48:31.200
talking about the speed that he was going to travel and how it was an emergency and a crisis. And he
00:48:36.120
was here to act. And he was the guy in a crisis. And yet, like, we're six months in. And it's hard
00:48:41.240
to even really point to anything that he's done, right? He's still parroting the same things,
00:48:45.980
like you mentioned, the UN, virtue signaling and bashing our national resources and our energy.
00:48:51.160
And I don't actually really see a lot of action. I'm wondering what your take on that is.
00:48:54.900
Well, again, he's a central banker. So this idea that you're going to get a central banker
00:48:59.360
driving the economy is absolutely outrageous. That's not the position any central banker has
00:49:03.900
ever done. I mean, there are big bureaucrats. And they're, you know, they're overeducated
00:49:08.120
individuals who are steeped in false ideology. So I think, first, I mean, he doesn't have the
00:49:13.720
background to, you know, to get things done. He's not a Donald Trump. He's not someone who
00:49:17.400
surrounded himself with a cabinet of incredibly successful people who know how to execute a plan.
00:49:22.400
And then secondly, that's not his ideology. I mean, he's completely given over to a global
00:49:28.140
agenda and the whole green agenda. So for him to sort of fast track energy projects and resource
00:49:33.620
projects, it's completely contrary to what he really wants to do. And so I think he's going to
00:49:39.020
slow walk these and he'll, you'll get something out of him, but it'll be very slow and inefficient
00:49:44.440
instead of just opening up the private sector. I mean, you look at his initiatives. He talks about
00:49:48.280
this infrastructure building. Well, there's plenty of capital that would come into the country
00:49:52.100
through the private sector. If he got rid of all these bills that they've passed over the last
00:49:55.640
number of years, and they fast track these projects, we wouldn't have to be spending any
00:49:59.900
tax dollars, but that's not what he wants to do. He wants top down. He wants the money coming through
00:50:04.660
Ottawa and controlling everything. And if that's the way it's going to go, which I'm sure, which,
00:50:09.060
you know, that's, I'm sure that's the way it is going to go. It's going to be slow, inefficient.
00:50:13.460
We'll be overpaying for infrastructure projects. We'll be wasting more and more money.
00:50:17.360
I mean, some of the projects that they've done are four or five, six times what they should have
00:50:21.860
should have spent on these projects. And so I think that's what we're in for going forward.
00:50:26.860
And I don't see any reversal of that. And so I think Canadians are getting increasingly frustrated.
00:50:31.780
I'm out on the street talking to people and they are very disappointed with Mark Carney and what he's
00:50:38.340
pulled off. But in some cases, why are they disappointed? I mean, it's the same government that
00:50:42.880
we had the last 10 years. You've just changed the figurehead. But I think you've got an even
00:50:47.500
more dangerous person because he's smooth and he, you know, he's a little smoother than Trudeau and
00:50:51.540
he looks a little more professional and he doesn't have the crazy socks. So, you know, people think he's
00:50:56.100
a little more stable, but he's not. He was behind the regime before and he's going to, I think,
00:51:01.280
push the same agenda. I don't believe a word that he's saying at this point. Action speaks louder than
00:51:07.520
any words. You know, it's almost funny how it's almost like a mirror image of what's happening
00:51:12.300
in the United States, right? It's like people voted for Joe Biden because they thought he was
00:51:15.720
a moderate. They associated with him, him with Barack Obama, but they thought he was more moderate
00:51:20.020
than Obama was, which is kind of similar with Justin Trudeau, right? Everyone by the end realized
00:51:24.600
Justin Trudeau was pretty much a radical leftist and that so many of the things that he did that he
00:51:29.000
believed in, you know, put his ideology ahead of the well-being of our country, which ended up
00:51:33.520
really, really harming Canadians and hurting our economy. And I think that that was sort of
00:51:37.580
generally, that was consensus. And so we brought in Mark Carney, who Canadians do view as more
00:51:42.120
moderate. He looks more moderate. He looks like a prime minister who would be moderate. But his
00:51:46.580
ideology is rooted in the exact same thing that Justin Trudeau does. Jonathan, I know that, you know,
00:51:51.760
your day job is your president and CEO of Rocklink, which is an investment organization. You focus on
00:51:58.000
personal finance. And so in this sort of, you know, unstable or, you know, kind of potentially
00:52:04.700
dangerous political environment and economic times, what are your recommendations? What is it
00:52:09.860
that you do for your clients? Yeah, we try to look at all of these factors that we've talked about and
00:52:15.380
then incorporate that into an investment thesis, which basically means you want to be very careful
00:52:20.080
about allocating money into Canada. I mean, you have to be very highly selective because we are having
00:52:25.020
all these restrictions top down from the government. So I think it is restricting some of the companies,
00:52:29.060
although we do have some fantastic businesses if they were let to do what they, you know, what they
00:52:33.960
like to do. We got quite a bit of money in the US, as you would expect, because I do think,
00:52:38.860
contrary to what a lot of the economists say, I mean, there are challenges down there, don't get me
00:52:42.880
wrong. But I think that they are going in the right direction. And there's a lot of growth in the
00:52:48.160
technology area and in other industries. And we also have precious metals. So again, we're very
00:52:54.220
concerned about the overall debt crisis around the world, the overspending, the deficits. We're
00:52:58.960
going to see that in Canada, even in the United States. Trump eventually is going to have to rein
00:53:02.880
that in. He's trying to grow the economy, of course. And I think he's also trying to get elected,
00:53:07.900
get the Republicans elected in the midterms. So he doesn't want to create too much instability.
00:53:13.860
But so we go in some of those spaces also. So gold, silver, some of the precious metals,
00:53:18.660
harder commodities. If you have pressure on your currencies, which I think is going to continue,
00:53:23.140
in other words, you're going to lose purchasing power because there's just too much debt.
00:53:27.060
They're going to inflate some of that away. Then you want to own really strategic commodities.
00:53:31.220
And there are a number of places that people can invest to try to protect capital. So that's what
00:53:36.680
we're doing. We're just saying to people, listen, let's batten down the hatches. Let's be careful.
00:53:40.480
There's some growth areas. Let's not chase them, but find business that are trading at good
00:53:45.200
valuations. And then let's put a little bit in some of the precious metals where we can try to,
00:53:49.680
again, maintain purchasing power. That's going to be very important in the next number of years.
00:53:54.900
So interesting. Well, folks, you can learn more over at rocklink.com. That's R-O-C-K-L-I-N-C.com.
00:54:01.760
Jonathan, I've always appreciated your time. Thank you so much. And thank you for your support of
00:54:09.960
All right, folks. Well, I have just a quick programming note before I end the program.
00:54:14.000
I am taking a little bit of a step back from doing this podcast. So as you know, during the
00:54:20.340
election, I was doing it every day. Over the summer, I stepped back and I had Chris Sims guest
00:54:24.920
hosting the show on Mondays. And then we had Ron Chisner doing a show on Friday. Well,
00:54:31.560
we're going to continue with that. We're going to expand the lineup of podcast hosts and news
00:54:35.800
reporters here on the airwaves. We're really excited. In the coming days and weeks, we'll be
00:54:40.180
announcing a few new shows. We will bring you content every day, day in, day out. I'm personally
00:54:45.400
going to take a few weeks to focus on my family. As you know, I have four small children. My husband
00:54:50.540
changed jobs recently. And so we're in a bit of a period of transition. I will be back in November
00:54:55.640
though, and I will be back to deliver the news. In the meantime, I'm going to leave you in very good,
00:54:59.400
very capable hands here at Juno News. So really appreciate your support. And I will be back. I'll
00:55:05.280
probably come back as a guest on other shows as well. So you might still see me around, but I won't be
00:55:09.300
hosting this show regularly again until November. All right, folks, that's all the time we have for
00:55:14.460
today. Take care of yourselves and your loved ones. Thank you so much. I'm Candace Malcolm.
00:55:17.820
This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.