The Candice Malcolm Show - September 01, 2021


If Trudeau loses this key demographic, it’s over for the Liberals

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Candice Malcolm explains why Justin Trudeau and the Liberals are losing the 2019 election, and why it's time to flip to the other party. She talks to a woman who voted for Trudeau in 2015, but now wants to vote for the Tories.

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00:00:00.080 Justin Trudeau and the Liberals are losing the selection. I'm going to tell you how.
00:00:04.000 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:10.760 Hi everyone, welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for tuning in. As you can see,
00:00:14.680 I am live on location in beautiful Vancouver, British Columbia. Look at that. That is the
00:00:20.360 North Shore behind me. You can see Stanley Park there and English Bay. Absolutely beautiful,
00:00:26.240 beautiful city. And let me tell you, this is a Liberal stronghold. The Liberals typically win
00:00:32.100 every single seat in Vancouver proper. And I want to tell you a little bit about some of the
00:00:36.500 conversations that I have been having here in Vancouver with friends, with family. If you've
00:00:40.840 been tuning into our coverage on the Candice Malcolm Show and here at True North, you'll know
00:00:44.120 that we hired an in-house pollster for this election campaign to help us make sense of the numbers,
00:00:48.820 to break down all those polls. It can sometimes be confusing and to help us understand what
00:00:53.120 demographics the various parties need to go after and need to capture in order to win.
00:00:58.160 So yesterday, Hamish and I had this conversation. One of the key demographics that he did talk about
00:01:02.900 that the Conservatives managed to win in 2011, that was part of their coalition, that they haven't been
00:01:08.280 able to win in the subsequent elections, 2015-2019, is the demographic of women. Basically my demographic. 0.86
00:01:16.460 So I've got kids at home, women in their 30s, their 40s, and even in their 50s, with kids at home,
00:01:22.100 sort of stay-at-home moms or working moms. But that mom demographic is so important.
00:01:27.720 Harper was able to capture that. And like I said, Conservatives have, and that is sort of
00:01:31.940 Trudeau's stronghold. Well, I want to tell you a little bit about some of the conversations that I
00:01:36.680 have been having with people that I know here in Vancouver. So first of all, I'll tell you about one
00:01:41.160 woman that was once a reliably and consistent liberal voter. She is, again, in my demographic,
00:01:47.440 she's college educated. She has two kids. She's a stay-at-home mom. She voted for Trudeau in 2015,
00:01:53.180 voted for Trudeau in 2019. She typically votes green in the provincial election. But having
00:01:58.440 conversations with her during this trip, during this visit, I am floored by how anti-Trudeau she
00:02:04.620 has been over the issue of the lockdowns. The lockdowns have caused absolutely devastating impacts
00:02:11.360 on businesses, on families. The whole idea that the government can order people to stay at home
00:02:16.660 and now order people to get vaccines regardless of whatever their personal views on it. Watching
00:02:22.280 Trudeau play this divisive game, create these wedge issues has really opened my friend's eyes
00:02:27.360 to how divisive the liberals truly are, how basically just unhappy she is with the fact that
00:02:33.360 she's voted for this government and how much she wants change. To the point where she was talking
00:02:37.500 to me the other day about a strategic vote. She likes Maxime Bernier. She likes the People's
00:02:42.400 Party. She likes what she hears from them. But she's so committed to voting Justin Trudeau out of
00:02:48.120 office. She was asking me if she should strategically vote for the conservatives in order to do that. 1.00
00:02:53.120 Usually, folks, usually when we hear about the strategic vote, we're talking about parties on the
00:02:57.800 left. So people that would typically be NDP or green voters wanting to vote liberal in order to keep
00:03:03.140 the conservatives out. But it's interesting to hear that coin flip and someone who's so dead set on
00:03:08.660 getting Trudeau out of office that she would be willing to vote for a conservative. Now, again, I want to
00:03:12.780 emphasize how much this person would have never struck me as a conservative voter in the past. I would say
00:03:19.000 her values are definitely on the left when it comes to the environment, when it comes to just the basic
00:03:25.200 issues that make up a voter. She's always been a voter on the left. But during this pandemic and the way that the
00:03:31.100 liberals have acted, it has brought her over to the right. She told me that the liberals are not
00:03:36.080 liberal, that they don't act like liberals. They don't promote the values of freedom and rights, the
00:03:41.120 whole idea of the Charter. They're not really the party that represent that anymore. And it's interesting
00:03:45.360 because for me, I've been saying that for years and years. And it's just so interesting to hear a
00:03:50.480 person who was a longtime liberal voter say that. Again, anecdotally, again, I have another person who is in the
00:03:57.300 older demographic. This woman is retired. And she was also a longtime liberal voter. I know for a fact 0.85
00:04:03.400 that she voted for Trudeau in 2015. And again, in 2019, I was talking to this woman yesterday, and she
00:04:09.840 told me that she has had enough. And this is a quote of Justin Trudeau and his swarmy ways. She knows that
00:04:15.420 there needs to be a change. She said that she likes her local liberal candidate, but she can't bring
00:04:19.420 herself to vote liberal again. So if liberals and Justin Trudeau are losing these demographics, women, 0.84
00:04:25.660 college-educated, both stay-at-home moms and retirees, these are the demographics that Trudeau
00:04:30.820 really, really, really needs to win. And these are the demographics that he is losing. And we are
00:04:35.920 seeing this in the polls. We are seeing this reflected. So, you know, these are anecdotal
00:04:40.000 stories, but there are polls and there is data to back this up. And I think that is why you see a
00:04:44.800 very, very desperate Justin Trudeau out on the campaign trail. We've seen him making very vicious
00:04:50.120 statements about anti-vaxxers, really pitting Canadians against each other, going with the whole we versus
00:04:55.320 them attitude. I'm going to play you a clip right now of Trudeau looking incredibly desperate and
00:05:00.240 playing the kind of divisive politics that he used to rally against. He used to cry against. He used
00:05:05.460 to talk about how it was the Conservatives that pitted Canadians against each other, the Conservatives
00:05:09.420 that dehumanized people that they disagreed with. Well, watch the way that he is talking about
00:05:14.400 Canadians who feel uncomfortable getting vaccinated. So the folks out there tonight shouting,
00:05:19.980 the anti-vaxxers, they're wrong. They are wrong about how we get through this pandemic.
00:05:30.120 And more than just being wrong, because everyone's entitled to their opinions, they are putting at risk
00:05:36.960 their own kids. And they're putting at risk our kids as well. That's why we've been unequivocal.
00:05:45.220 If you want to get on a plane or a train in the coming months, you're going to have to be fully
00:05:50.740 vaccinated. So families with their kids don't have to worry that someone is going to be put them in
00:05:57.080 danger in the seat next to them or across the aisle. And we know that the way to get through this as
00:06:04.080 well is to make sure that people can go into non-essential businesses and feel safe that they're
00:06:11.820 not going to catch COVID from someone next to them. And that means we're going to work with provinces
00:06:18.440 and territories who want to move forward on vaccination certifications, on vaccination
00:06:24.440 passports, so that everyone can be safe. And what's more, the federal government has announced
00:06:29.620 we're going to pay for the development of those privileges that you get once you get vaccinated,
00:06:35.960 because everyone needs to get vaccinated. And those people are putting us all at risk.
00:06:42.640 And Aaron O'Toole is siding with them instead of with Canadians who did their part and stepped up.
00:06:50.980 He's talking about personal choice. What about my choice to keep my kids safe?
00:06:56.060 What about our choices to make sure we're getting through this pandemic as quickly as we can?
00:07:01.720 That's the choice we've all made. Canadians have shown it in being there for each other.
00:07:07.520 And I am not going to back down no matter how many of them show up to try and shout us down
00:07:13.660 from what I know to be true, what science tells us, what Canadians have told me, which is people are
00:07:21.480 willing to do their part to get through this pandemic. And that's what we will do together.
00:07:26.780 So shame on you, Aaron O'Toole.
00:07:29.720 Sunny ways. I mean, seriously, this is a prime minister who used to campaign on having a positive
00:07:34.760 vision for Canada, being happy-go-lucky, and again, uniting Canadians. And just look at that.
00:07:39.120 That doesn't look like a leader who is winning a campaign. That doesn't look like a prime minister
00:07:43.340 who is uniting a country. That looks like a desperate man who knows that he is losing.
00:07:47.700 And that's why we saw the Liberals push out their policy platform today to try to distract
00:07:51.500 from the news cycle, distract from the fact that they allowed a candidate to run,
00:07:55.100 even though they have known sexual assault abuses. The fact that the whole wedge issue
00:07:59.880 around the unvaccinated doesn't really hold up. Or the fact that Aaron O'Toole is actually
00:08:03.820 kind of popular among Canadians. Canadians didn't really know very much about Aaron O'Toole.
00:08:07.720 The assumption was that he wasn't going to be able to appeal to them. But the polls are really
00:08:11.960 reflecting that people like what they see in Aaron O'Toole. He seems like a moderate guy.
00:08:15.900 He seems like a bit of a policy wonk, a bit of a nerd, a family-oriented man, a man that served in the
00:08:20.720 military, that really loves his country. And that's providing quite a contrast from Justin Trudeau.
00:08:26.240 So it is really interesting to see this all play out. Again, if Trudeau loses places like Vancouver,
00:08:32.100 loses voters like the people that I was talking about today, he is in very, very big trouble.
00:08:37.260 And I think that we could see a very surprising outcome on the September 20th election.
00:08:41.760 Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.