The Candice Malcolm Show - April 24, 2025


Is Canada DOOMED？ Dragons’ Den star weighs in


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Candice Malan is joined by Brett Wilson to talk about the decline of Canada over the past decade, and how we can turn things around. Candice is running for re-election in the upcoming election and needs a new Prime Minister.

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00:00:00.000 China's killing our canola.
00:00:02.480 $45 billion gone.
00:00:05.600 Western farmers bleed.
00:00:08.100 Mark Carney?
00:00:10.080 Silent.
00:00:11.280 Made millions off Beijing's dime.
00:00:14.400 He won't fight.
00:00:15.940 He's Beijing's banker, not our prime minister.
00:00:19.260 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:30.780 Folks, we have four more days until the election, until Canadians decide their fate.
00:00:35.600 And I wanted to spend the show today talking about what has happened in Canada over the past decade, really paint a picture of our country, which I believe is in decline.
00:00:45.740 You know, Pierre Poliev and the Conservatives, one of their slogans is that Canada is broken.
00:00:49.840 I think that almost all of us agree with that.
00:00:51.960 But it's not just that it's broken.
00:00:53.500 It's that Canada was this once great country, and we have the potential to be so much better, so much bigger, so much greater.
00:01:00.720 And yet, stat after stat, every graph that I'm going to show on the program today just paints a different picture of our great country coming apart, being in decline.
00:01:11.660 And so I don't want to just dwell on the negative today, I want to also talk about the positive and how we can turn things around.
00:01:17.160 And I'm very pleased today to be joined by Brett Wilson.
00:01:20.560 Brett is an investment banker, an entrepreneur, and a philanthropist, and he was the star of CBC's Dragon Den, really did more for entrepreneurship and promoting really just the heroic efforts of free market business people taking risks, innovating exactly what our country needs.
00:01:38.460 So, Brett, thank you so much for joining the show. It's an honor to have you today.
00:01:42.600 Pleasure to be with you again.
00:01:44.480 Well, okay, let's start with some of the things that I was talking about here.
00:01:48.220 So I'll start with our friend David Knight-Lagg posted this about the Quality of Life Index in Canada.
00:01:56.080 So Canada is now ranked 29th in terms of quality of living.
00:02:00.540 Here, I'll read from David's post.
00:02:01.920 He says, we're 29.
00:02:03.140 Under the Conservative government in 2014, Canada's Quality of Life Index was tied for fifth with Denmark and Finland.
00:02:09.920 After a decade of liberal misrule, using the identical metrics, Canadian quality of life has dropped to 29th in 2025.
00:02:17.700 What happened?
00:02:18.240 Well, he writes, a Kearney-advised decade of reckless borrowing and debt, dying productivity, over-regulation, climate alarmism, widespread immigration fraud, vastly expanded obese bureaucracy, declining health care, rising crime, declining military, declining infrastructure, and a hollowed-out currency.
00:02:34.640 Our dollar is now worth 68 cents to the American dollar per capita.
00:02:39.580 Wealth is now ranked alongside Mississippi, the poorest U.S. state.
00:02:43.320 So, I mean, he really paints out all of the areas of decline.
00:02:49.580 And, I mean, the Quality of Life Index is not a partisan group.
00:02:52.380 It's very quite objective.
00:02:53.960 It looks at every country around the world.
00:02:56.420 Do you think this is just really a damning indictment of liberal rule in Canada?
00:03:02.540 Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.
00:03:07.520 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.
00:03:10.220 Rich, creamy, chocolatey aero truffle.
00:03:14.000 Feel the aero bubbles melt.
00:03:16.040 It's mind bubbling.
00:03:17.640 Well, certainly the last decade's been difficult.
00:03:19.800 There's just no policy, no practice, no effort that I see in any way, shape, or form that has made Canada better.
00:03:26.820 So, the fact that, again, I go back to the polls in the fall.
00:03:31.200 The, obviously, the Trudeau liberals were plummeting.
00:03:36.720 You know, the numbers were just awful.
00:03:39.660 And it was obvious that people's, Canada's disdain for Trudeau was palpable.
00:03:45.200 The fact that a guy, I like, happened to like Mark Carney as a person, not as a leader.
00:03:50.720 But the fact that he stepped back in and all of a sudden the liberals are going, oh, everything's fine.
00:03:56.260 We're going to be okay.
00:03:57.360 And you look at the cabinet that he's posted.
00:04:00.440 21 of the 23 people, in fact, really all 23, were Trudeau.
00:04:04.960 There's nothing new.
00:04:06.600 Nothing new happening.
00:04:08.660 Guy Baud got moved over.
00:04:09.880 He was one of the guys that helped destroy Canada's energy economy or tried to and is working on it.
00:04:15.460 But he sort of stepped to the side.
00:04:16.980 But he's still in cabinet.
00:04:18.360 He's not gone.
00:04:19.260 And so, to try and answer your question better, the future requires change.
00:04:25.520 And the fact that somehow, with Carney in the driver's seat, the liberals think that there's going to be change, there's no change.
00:04:32.520 Nothing.
00:04:33.260 And again, the results of the last decade have been awful on every level, whether it's politics or it's bureaucracy or it's prisons or it's the economy.
00:04:43.840 Nothing has gone well.
00:04:45.760 Nothing.
00:04:46.160 I tend to agree that we need a total redirection in terms of where our country is going.
00:04:52.340 Just a few more graphs that I wanted to share here.
00:04:54.380 So, this one here shows America's richest and poorest states versus Canada.
00:04:58.980 So, this is really unbelievable.
00:05:00.500 The richest American state – I don't like this at all, Brett.
00:05:02.800 The richest American state is Washington, D.C., which isn't really a state.
00:05:06.220 It's a district.
00:05:07.180 But the average income in D.C. is $260,000.
00:05:11.720 I don't think that's a good thing when the richest place in the country is the government town.
00:05:16.280 And so, you have all these wealthy, I don't know, government contractors or bureaucrats, frankly.
00:05:21.360 But regardless of that, the second richest state is New York state with $110,000 as their GDP per capita average.
00:05:30.080 Then goes Massachusetts.
00:05:31.400 The U.S. average is $80,000.
00:05:33.180 And then you get down to the poorest U.S. states, Arkansas, West Virginia.
00:05:37.780 And that is where Canada would fit in.
00:05:39.740 Canada would be between the second poorest and the poorest American state between West Virginia and Mississippi at just $54,900 average GDP.
00:05:50.880 This is another way of looking at that.
00:05:53.500 The real GDP per capita growth in the OECD.
00:05:56.440 So, these are the richest countries, not just comparing ourselves to Americans in the states, but all of the world.
00:06:01.920 You can see Ireland, Poland, Turkey, Lithuania.
00:06:04.600 Those are the countries that have had tremendous growth over the past decade.
00:06:08.340 The United States is sort of middle of the pack with 18%.
00:06:10.520 And you have to go all the way to the bottom, the second to least growth, 1.4% over a decade for GDP per capita.
00:06:18.760 This is the next graph is showing the same thing, just in a different way.
00:06:22.060 Again, Canada is at the bottom.
00:06:23.620 And these are the years that the Liberals were in office.
00:06:26.440 These are the years that Trudeau was prime minister.
00:06:29.000 And for many of those years, Mark Carney was his economic advisor.
00:06:32.280 Final one here.
00:06:33.760 This is, to me, just an absolute damning indictment of our immigration system and how careless it was. 0.88
00:06:39.440 You know, like immigration in theory is a good thing.
00:06:42.320 It can help our country.
00:06:43.400 The way that it was done under Justin Trudeau, it was really just open the floodgates, let everybody come in to try to artificially boost our GDP.
00:06:50.240 And so here it compares the annual population growth with the top graph here, the number of new residential units constructed.
00:06:58.640 No wonder there's a housing crisis.
00:07:00.280 And it's a shame that this hasn't been a more prominent topic in the election campaign, how immigration has caused so many of these problems. 1.00
00:07:08.800 You cannot let a million people into the country every year and then only build 100 or 200,000 new homes.
00:07:15.700 Like the math just doesn't add up and eventually it catches up on you.
00:07:18.660 The next graph is also interesting.
00:07:20.700 Annual population growth in Canada versus the change in number of family doctors and hospital beds.
00:07:27.860 So while we're having 1 million newcomers, I mean, in 2022-23, we added 2 million people, but at that same year, there were just 800 new doctors, 800 new family doctors added in the country.
00:07:40.760 And 1,359 hospital beds were cut during that time.
00:07:46.400 So, you know, no wonder our health care is in the state of sin, no wonder our housing costs are spiraling out of control and young Canadians just simply, the math doesn't make sense for them to ever in their entire lives be able to own even a one-bedroom apartment. 1.00
00:07:59.820 And yet, you know, it's clearly part of it is because of immigration and we don't talk about that.
00:08:05.880 What do you make of all this, Brett?
00:08:07.400 Well, certainly the feds don't want to talk about immigration.
00:08:10.260 I mean, there's also a bias, there's a perception that there's a possibility or a probability that an immigrant will vote for whoever was in power when they were allowed into the country, allowed into the country without true application, without true qualification.
00:08:27.620 And that, I think, is the saddest part of this whole process because I share one of your earlier comments, which is we welcome the world coming here, but on a thoughtful, organized, and respectful basis.
00:08:38.800 And right now it's been none of the above, not thoughtful, not organized, and not respectful.
00:08:43.660 And that's a big part of why we're suffering.
00:08:46.040 And, of course, the density increases in Ontario and Quebec because there's greater populations and everything else, and it just doesn't make sense.
00:08:54.200 The other thing that's happening is obviously a fight and a dispute between what the feds do for Medicare or health care and what the provinces do when they're responsible for health care.
00:09:03.520 The confusion just abounds, and at no time did Trudeau ever acknowledge that provinces have rights, provinces have responsibility.
00:09:13.320 The things he was trying to do, and just take ESG as an example, for the environment, you know, trying to slap the provinces, and that's obviously, in particular, Alberta, to lesser degree, Saskatchewan, have said,
00:09:24.240 we're going to push back, and we're going to try and stop you from attempting to shut down our economy.
00:09:29.600 And that goes back to the big picture is, can Carney build Canada?
00:09:34.940 And he says yes, and then he says, ah, but Bill C-69, we're just going to keep that in place.
00:09:40.640 We don't really need to waive that in order to build infrastructure.
00:09:44.420 And again, the idea that Carney, or pardon me, that Poilev has come out with very recently, and this is, it's an old idea, but it's new to the world of politics, and that's the energy corridor.
00:09:55.760 Being able to bring energy, and again, it's not just east-west.
00:09:59.560 We need an energy corridor that is north-south.
00:10:02.280 We need to be able to get to Hudson Bay.
00:10:06.260 We need to get down into the states properly.
00:10:08.800 Anyway, there's just so much, there's so much that's wrong about the last decade, that it's staggering, if not stunning, that Carney can pretend that the next decade under him would be completely different.
00:10:20.840 Well, it's interesting, because he both tries to distance himself from Trudeau and say that he wasn't there, even though, to your point, he has the same group of people around him.
00:10:28.960 I think Poilev effectively pointed that out during the debate.
00:10:32.260 And in some ways, they're copying the conservative platform, like, you know, the main issue of the debate originally, of the election, sorry, it originally was going to be, well, we have this carbon tax or not.
00:10:42.140 Obviously, the Liberals championed it for a decade.
00:10:44.240 It's very central to Mark Carney's sort of worldview and idea that getting to net zero is of absolute importance.
00:10:51.660 He sort of walked away from that.
00:10:53.640 This week, they both put out, both campaigns, the Liberals and the Conservatives, put out their costed budgets.
00:10:58.660 And, you know, the top line is sort of both sides want to introduce new spending and rack up more debt.
00:11:05.880 Neither of them have a plan to get to balanced budget in the first term.
00:11:08.720 I will say that Poilev's campaign and platform included a 70 percent reduction in spending compared to Mark Carney, who does still want to turn on the taps and spend in a Trudeau-esque way, actually spending more money than Trudeau did.
00:11:23.240 I wonder if you can comment on which budget you thought was better and which one do you think would be better in creating the growth that our country so desperately needs?
00:11:32.460 Well, let me throw a curve with that question first.
00:11:35.580 And that's just a comment on Trump, which was obviously a huge part of what's driving the political conversations right now.
00:11:43.180 And, again, I know some people hate me for this, but I happen to admire what Trump's trying to do.
00:11:48.680 Again, protect the borders, improve trade, reduce war, improve the environment properly and thoughtfully.
00:11:55.640 Anyway, all of that is a noble goal.
00:11:59.640 I don't like his process.
00:12:00.760 I don't like how he's going about it, throwing his elbows, changing his plan, kicking us in the teeth from time to time.
00:12:07.620 His 51st state jokes are gone.
00:12:10.500 And Governor Trudeau was amusing for a period of time.
00:12:14.140 But anyway, in all of that, there's a thought that we can control costs.
00:12:18.340 And one of his core messages was the Department of Government Efficiency, obviously the Elon Musk.
00:12:25.160 And whether Canada can find its own way of cutting costs or not, I think only under Pierre Poilev can we do anything about costs.
00:12:34.820 At no time, and this goes back to answering your question, Carney hasn't made any effort whatsoever.
00:12:40.700 The liberals have made no effort whatsoever to talk about controlling costs.
00:12:45.240 Remember their leader once said that budgets just balance themselves?
00:12:50.160 He didn't have a clue.
00:12:51.420 And obviously, at this point, they don't care.
00:12:54.320 They just want to spend.
00:12:55.420 They want to spend their way into control.
00:12:57.540 They want to gift and give stuff everywhere.
00:13:00.320 And that's without infrastructure.
00:13:02.280 And I think that's probably the most important thing that we're seeing.
00:13:05.640 And again, it's triggered by Trump.
00:13:08.120 But the fact that we need infrastructure to move our natural resources, and whether you call our natural resources the hydropower of Quebec,
00:13:16.200 or the oil and gas industry in Western Canada, or potassium, or uranium, it just doesn't matter.
00:13:24.120 There's so many things that we can do better for the world, but we need infrastructure to ship it to the world.
00:13:29.800 And that's where the liberals for a decade have failed miserably.
00:13:33.480 They've shut it down.
00:13:34.440 They haven't even tried to build it.
00:13:35.920 They've shut it down.
00:13:37.180 Well, it's interesting that at this point in the campaign, the campaign has been going on for five weeks.
00:13:40.800 Mark Carney has been in the prime minister role for, I guess, seven weeks now.
00:13:43.900 And yet, I don't even really know, Brett, where he stands on the issue of pipelines.
00:13:47.560 You're right.
00:13:48.020 He said that he won't get rid of Bill C-69, which is the no more pipelines bill, basically.
00:13:52.860 The regulations make it so much that you can't get an infrastructure project built.
00:13:57.500 In the debate last week, he oddly misspoke and said that we own the Keystone pipeline, which, of course, is not a pipeline that was even completed.
00:14:06.160 It's the one that goes into the United States and brings Alberta oil to refineries in Texas.
00:14:11.560 It is partially built, but it's not fully built.
00:14:13.360 And I think he meant to say the Trans Mountain pipeline.
00:14:18.000 He said in English earlier in the campaign, in a campaign stop in Kelowna, that he will use all of the powers of the federal government to get major infrastructure projects like pipelines built.
00:14:29.120 He said that he would even use the emergencies power.
00:14:31.900 He was called out on that at the debate by block leader Francois Blanchet, Yves-Francois Blanchet.
00:14:37.800 And he kind of like tried to walk over it and hand wave it away.
00:14:43.440 And so here we are almost at Election Day.
00:14:45.920 And I really don't know where the leader stands in terms of pipelines.
00:14:50.640 Alberta wasn't mentioned very much during the campaign.
00:14:53.760 It wasn't mentioned at all, to my recollection, during those two debates.
00:14:57.300 And so I'm wondering, like from an Alberta perspective, do you think that these issues have been properly litigated in the public?
00:15:05.660 Do you think that more should have been done to discuss these issues of economic development and growth and really grill the leaders to find out exactly where they stand on these issues?
00:15:14.140 Well, the federal government, which is liberal, still has an emissions cap contemplated for the energy industry.
00:15:21.840 And that's obviously been one of the greatest issues that Danielle Smith and Scott Moe have fought back and thrown elbows saying.
00:15:28.840 And partly, you know, when we introduced in Alberta what was called the Sovereignty Act, it was to make sure that we understood as a nation who could control what.
00:15:37.220 And at this moment, the liberals think they can control everything.
00:15:40.580 And it's that infrastructure failure that's a problem.
00:15:44.740 By the way, a bit of history.
00:15:45.740 I had the privilege of having dinner with Pierre Polev 12 or 13 years ago.
00:15:51.740 I met him with a dinner we were doing with John Baird, had a great conversation, and have stayed friends with him ever since.
00:15:58.220 I also had lunch with Mark Carney the week before he was elected by the liberals.
00:16:03.620 And he was sitting and he was running around in Calgary, and he knows I've got a few connections here.
00:16:08.020 And we had a great conversation about infrastructure, and he was adamant, looked me in the eye and said, I'm certain that we can build pipelines.
00:16:15.520 And then a week later, he says, we're not going to restrict Bill 69.
00:16:20.440 So the fact that C-69 kills pipelines, and he doesn't want to kill it, tells me the liberals are still confused as to what infrastructure really means.
00:16:28.920 So, no, I'm all in on Polev, I'm all in on this idea of energy infrastructure, and not just energy, sorry, natural resource infrastructure, being able to ship what we are great at.
00:16:41.420 And again, it goes back to the big picture, potassium, agriculture, farming, trees, coal.
00:16:51.280 I mean, we still ship coal.
00:16:52.780 By the way, we've been shipping coal to China for a decade, and not once have we ever charged a carbon tax on it.
00:16:57.740 And yet, let's be clear, liberals still plan to keep the carbon tax in place. 0.89
00:17:02.200 The bulk of the carbon tax was never explained.
00:17:04.900 This idea that there was a credit, they lied about the numbers.
00:17:08.420 Now they've said, oh, we're going to stop the carbon tax.
00:17:11.300 That's just to get elected.
00:17:12.900 There's going to be a twist, a turn.
00:17:14.700 They aren't planning on eliminating the carbon tax.
00:17:17.180 Why?
00:17:17.700 Because Carney doesn't believe that the world will survive without a carbon tax.
00:17:21.520 Certainly.
00:17:22.240 He's been crystal clear on that.
00:17:23.420 It's so core to his worldview, his ideology.
00:17:26.280 It's written very clearly in his book, Values.
00:17:29.260 I mean, he was the sort of creator of this concept of net zero.
00:17:34.040 And that whole concept has kind of gone away.
00:17:37.080 Like, it's interesting that Mark Kearney gets kind of accused of being an elitist.
00:17:41.320 At one point in the campaign, he said he is a globalist and an elitist, and that's why he should get elected, basically.
00:17:46.020 He came from the World Economic Forum.
00:17:49.700 The World Economic Forum isn't really anything without him.
00:17:51.940 And I think evident of that is the fact that Klaus Schwab has now resigned from that organization.
00:17:56.640 And I think that without those two figures, Mark Kearney and Klaus Schwab, it doesn't really exist anymore.
00:18:00.780 The whole ideology is fading away.
00:18:03.160 I think Mark Kearney had a bit of a campaign gaffe.
00:18:05.500 That's what I would call it.
00:18:06.320 Earlier this week, he went to a poutine shop near Granby, Quebec.
00:18:12.600 And he said that he was just like Trump, and he joked several times that it was like Trump at McDonald's.
00:18:19.760 I don't know why he would compare himself to Trump during the last week of the campaign.
00:18:23.900 I think maybe he was joking and he thought it was funny.
00:18:27.000 This isn't really the comparison that you want going into Election Day.
00:18:30.360 Like, look at me.
00:18:31.200 I'm going to do a photo op just like President Trump did.
00:18:34.520 I thought that when President Trump did it, it was quite charming.
00:18:36.720 And that actually really helped his appeal, that he actually kind of likes getting into the role of, like, being with the American public, working a working class job.
00:18:46.540 He thinks there's dignity in it.
00:18:47.820 I didn't get that from Mark Kearney at all.
00:18:49.900 I felt like it was just kind of awkward.
00:18:52.420 And literally their entire campaign attack ads in this campaign have been,
00:18:56.460 Polly, look at Polly, he's just like Trump.
00:18:58.520 And then here's Kearney saying, I'm just like Trump.
00:19:00.420 What do you think of Kearney as his ability to campaign and his ability to connect with everyday Canadians?
00:19:07.800 Well, that's been a bit of frustration.
00:19:09.860 I think what's happened is that Kearney is so much more connectable than Trudeau.
00:19:14.980 And so his benchmark is so low that it's easy to make him look better than the last guy.
00:19:21.460 And yet a thoughtful comparison would say, has this guy ever held a hammer or a screwdriver?
00:19:25.920 Has he ever actually built anything of relevance for anything other than himself?
00:19:31.680 I mean, Brookfield's obviously doing well.
00:19:33.600 I mean, you saw the messages that came out of the president or prime minister, whatever, the prime minister of England, whatever her title was.
00:19:41.920 I'm sorry.
00:19:42.320 Liz Truss, I think you're talking about.
00:19:44.240 But her disdain for her Bank of Canada guy was palpable.
00:19:48.520 And so if he hasn't really delivered on anything at any time, anywhere, but he still looks better than Trudeau.
00:19:57.400 And again, that's the bizarre part here is Trudeau had developed such a disdain or the Canada had developed such a disdain for Trudeau.
00:20:05.060 It was across all platforms.
00:20:06.780 It didn't matter where he started and the numbers.
00:20:09.720 But again, let's go back to polling.
00:20:11.400 The polling obviously was very clear that at one time the disdain for Trudeau drove the conservatives up and the liberals down.
00:20:18.840 You get rid of Trudeau and now all of a sudden the liberals rally.
00:20:22.040 I'm openly skeptical that the polling is accurate.
00:20:25.960 As a friend of mine said, my kids don't answer the phone, but they do vote.
00:20:30.240 And again, it'll be interesting to see where all of this unfolds.
00:20:33.760 I'm apprehensive.
00:20:34.400 I'm worried that we're not going to be thoughtful as a nation because any thought at all says the last decade has to be replaced.
00:20:42.860 It's time to upgrade.
00:20:43.920 It's time to replaced.
00:20:45.020 Sorry.
00:20:45.520 Sorry to interrupt you.
00:20:46.300 It certainly feels like it's time for a change.
00:20:48.240 And it's frustrating to me that some Canadians think that Mark Carney has changed enough that he, you know, because his face wasn't all over, he wasn't part of the Trudeau cabinet.
00:20:56.120 It's interesting, though, because Pierre Polly gets critiqued for being a lifelong politician.
00:21:00.580 Well, Mark Carney is a lifelong bureaucrat, right?
00:21:02.560 And so those are two kind of different skill sets.
00:21:06.000 Yes, Mark Carney ended up being the chair of Brookfield.
00:21:09.520 Brett, you're a businessman.
00:21:10.700 You know that there's a difference between being the CEO of a company where you're in charge of actually running the business and doing the operations and being on the board, which Mark Carney was on the board of several of these organizations and he was the chair of the board of Brookfield, which is almost like an advisory role or like a PR role.
00:21:26.840 It's not someone who is actually running the business.
00:21:30.180 It's someone who's almost like in a, yeah, just some kind of an outside role that helps with the leadership team and helps make decisions.
00:21:38.620 So I don't really see, I mean, I suppose on the surface is a very impressive resume, even just, you know, Harvard, Oxford, these big bank government jobs.
00:21:48.040 But again, civil service and then when it comes to private sector, it's more like he's just there for the PR.
00:21:56.060 Sorry to interrupt.
00:21:56.720 He's got that same presence in terms of how he's running the liberal party.
00:22:00.060 He's present.
00:22:01.140 But it's also obvious now that he's presenting a standard, a set of roles and guidelines that was built by Trudeau's people, not by him.
00:22:08.900 He's presenting the liberal platform.
00:22:11.900 Right.
00:22:12.400 And so I wonder just from like a businessman, like entrepreneurial perspective, like do you share my pessimism about Canada?
00:22:21.140 Do you think it's broken?
00:22:22.180 Do you think that there's hope?
00:22:23.240 Like is Canada on this trajectory of decline that no matter who's in charge, it's sort of too late for us?
00:22:29.880 Or do you think that there are a set of policies that can turn Canada into, like can give this new generation, like 20 year olds today, the same kind of opportunities that were available for previous generations?
00:22:42.060 Can Canada get itself back up in that comparison so that our average GDP per capita is in line with the Americans?
00:22:51.620 Or do you think that it's sort of like too late?
00:22:53.720 What do you think?
00:22:55.020 Well, there's several conversations that erupt here.
00:22:56.960 One, I am not going to be participating actively and trying to have Alberta removed from Canada.
00:23:04.160 I have no interest in Alberta being associated as call it the 51st state.
00:23:09.760 Now, do we need to do things differently?
00:23:11.740 Yeah.
00:23:12.160 I mean, the confusion of letting the liberals grow our economy when they've destroyed it for 10 years is palpable.
00:23:20.760 And the idea of building infrastructure and getting our natural resources to a global market makes sense.
00:23:27.660 We need to manage our immigration. 0.99
00:23:29.780 We need to manage our bureaucracy.
00:23:32.500 And that's where, again, the Department of Government efficiency will should drive down costs in a dramatic fashion.
00:23:37.820 The fact that we've doubled our bureaucratic headcount in the last 10 years, doubled?
00:23:43.080 No, none of that makes any sense.
00:23:45.480 So, again, I get really apprehensive about a liberal, even a liberal minority government, with the swing being either Block, who I don't think should be running as a federal party, but that's a separate issue, or the NDP, who don't offer anything.
00:24:01.840 They just get sold.
00:24:03.320 They're buying votes.
00:24:05.480 They're buying alignment.
00:24:07.240 They, again, ignore the NDP.
00:24:08.660 But, no, I'm apprehensive.
00:24:10.800 I'm extremely apprehensive about what's going to happen next week if the liberals wander into a continuous mode.
00:24:18.860 The economy, we can regrow it.
00:24:20.780 We can rebuild it.
00:24:21.660 We can get things going.
00:24:23.660 But we can't do it under a liberal, in a liberal platform.
00:24:26.920 Well, it doesn't seem like they've really put together a picture of growth.
00:24:30.540 Their entire campaign was really just oriented around who can stop Trump, who can be the most anti-American, who can better sort of balance that out, rather than who can best grow the Canadian economy, which I think is the ballot box question.
00:24:44.480 Well, Brett Wilson, we really appreciate your time and your insights.
00:24:46.800 Thank you so much for joining the show.
00:24:48.040 We appreciate it.
00:24:49.760 You're welcome.
00:24:50.340 Look forward to chatting again.
00:24:51.460 All right.
00:24:51.680 Thank you so much.
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