The Candice Malcolm Show - It’s open season for harassment, hate and even violence against Russians

00:00:00.000 In a society obsessed with diversity and inclusion, there is now a new category of people who are apparently open season for harassment, intimidation, hatred, and even incitement of violence.

00:00:11.540 I'm talking about Russians. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. 0.99

00:00:25.500 Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:00:28.100 Now, as you know, over the years, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau used to talk a good game about protecting our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:00:35.740 He would say he would protect it at all costs, even when it's unpopular.

00:00:39.680 Well, that all went out the window, as you know, during COVID, when Trudeau would regularly suspend our charter rights due to public health emergencies or public safety emergencies or any other emergency that he could think up.

00:00:51.360 He also began to regularly scapegoat and demonize the unvaccinated.

00:00:55.240 They don't deserve charter rights. They're racist, he told us.

00:00:58.560 Well, Trudeau used to also insist that a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian, even if that Canadian happened to be a foreign-born jihadist terrorist who joined a foreign military and picked up arms against Canada. 0.85

00:01:10.220 It didn't matter, Trudeau said. He's still a Canadian, and he's still deserving of your respect.

00:01:15.560 At the height of ISIS's reign of terror in the Middle East and Europe, Trudeau would regularly scold Canadians and accuse them of Islamophobia.

00:01:22.840 During the height of COVID, when we learned that the communist Chinese government hid the extent of the virus, we also learned that the virus likely leaked from a virology lab in Wuhan.

00:01:33.600 Well, Trudeau government once again accused Canadians, scolded Canadians, and told us that we were stoking anti-Chinese bigotry.

00:01:41.780 Well, the latest conflict in Ukraine has seen something totally different from Justin Trudeau.

00:01:47.080 We haven't heard any of that from our prime minister.

00:01:50.300 Instead, we've heard him blame Russians, and he's made no attempt whatsoever to separate the Putin regime from the peaceful and good-hearted people of Russia.

00:01:59.360 Well, Justin Trudeau is not alone.

00:02:01.960 This is one of the craziest headlines I have seen in a long time.

00:02:04.880 It's an exclusive from Reuters that came out over the weekend.

00:02:07.980 It says, exclusive, Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians.

00:02:14.180 Yes, you heard that correctly.

00:02:16.080 Facebook will lift its policies about hate speech and allow people in some countries to call for violence against Russians.

00:02:24.260 Not just Russian military, not just Vladimir Putin, but call for violence against Russian people.

00:02:30.380 So there you have it.

00:02:31.120 They can just revoke your rights and ignore crimes.

00:02:34.080 Inciting violence is a fair game on Facebook, so long as it's directed towards Russians. 1.00

00:02:39.600 This is really, really scary stuff.

00:02:42.280 Unsurprisingly, we've now seen an uptick in crimes committed against Russians here in Canada,

00:02:48.000 whether it's vandalizing Russian-owned businesses or a Russian cultural center in Vancouver, British Columbia.

00:02:54.500 We've also seen open discrimination against the people of Russia and Russian origin here in Canada.

00:03:00.320 My guest on the podcast today is freelance journalist and National Post columnist Rupa Subramana,

00:03:06.060 and she recently wrote about a 20-year-old Russian pianist who has been canceled simply for the crime of being born in Russia.

00:03:14.140 So, Rupa, welcome back to the show.

00:03:15.720 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:03:18.000 Thanks, Candice, for having me here.

00:03:20.260 So why don't you tell us a little bit about the story that you wrote in the National Post,

00:03:23.840 Cancel Culture Rears Its Ugly Head in the Russia-Ukraine Conflict,

00:03:28.000 and about this 20-year-old Russian protege, pianist,

00:03:31.460 who apparently can't play in Canada anymore because he's Russian.

00:03:35.960 Well, yes, Candice.

00:03:37.480 I mean, this is really quite something, and I have been really taken aback by this.

00:03:42.260 So the Orquestra Sinfonique de Montréal, which is one of Canada's premier symphonies,

00:03:49.640 canceled Alexander Malafive.

00:03:52.780 He's, by all accounts, a prodigy, and because of the simple fact that he's Russian.

00:04:00.040 And, you know, what makes this extraordinary is that the pianist had actually come out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

00:04:10.500 And so when a media organization reached out to the orchestra to get their views on this,

00:04:19.760 the spokesperson said that it would be inappropriate for Malafive to perform at this time.

00:04:26.500 And what I want to say is that this is just, you know, a spate of cancellations that we've seen recently since the conflict broke out.

00:04:36.720 We've seen Russian artists, conductors.

00:04:40.920 I have seen this has been especially bad in the cultural, in the arts sector more than anywhere else.

00:04:47.740 I mean, you've seen countries sanction Russia.

00:04:50.500 Russia, they've weaponized finance, they have, countries have suspended their operations in Russia, you've seen that.

00:04:58.980 But for some reason, it seems to be especially bad in the arts and cultural, classical music world,

00:05:06.800 whether it's museums or orchestras around the world, especially in Europe and the US and Canada.

00:05:14.280 And so what's going on here is that it's basically open season on anyone who's seen as not sufficiently critical of Russia or the invasion.

00:05:28.580 Or if you choose to stay neutral or you don't want to weigh in on this, you just don't want to be political.

00:05:34.220 You just want to remain as apolitical as possible.

00:05:36.920 And there are lots of people like that.

00:05:38.740 There are people who don't want to see an escalation of the conflict.

00:05:41.820 You know, they'd rather not take sides.

00:05:44.040 And those people are being punished.

00:05:46.000 And it's gotten so ridiculous that there's this one egregious example here in Ottawa of a restaurant called the Moscow Tea Room, I believe.

00:05:56.840 It's on Sussex Drive. 0.52

00:05:58.020 It's a very prominent establishment.

00:06:00.240 And the owner is Lebanese-Canadian.

00:06:03.020 He came to this country escaping the war in Lebanon.

00:06:06.800 He came as a refugee and he's been receiving a spate of hate mails and death threats because they think he's Russian or that he has some kind of a Russian connection by way of this restaurant.

00:06:21.820 So it's quite stunning what's been happening.

00:06:26.460 But what I'm taken aback by is the fact that our political class has largely remained silent or looked the other way when these things have been reported.

00:06:38.520 Now, they're usually very quick to condemn this kind of thing.

00:06:43.800 And you gave several examples early on when it came to not calling this the Chinese virus because, you know, that would be seen as offensive to the Chinese people or people of Chinese origin.

00:07:02.620 And there are many such examples, but it seems we're almost witnessing a moment in history right now, a moment right now where it's OK to actually hate on the Russians. 0.78

00:07:17.220 It's OK to, you know, say anything you want against them.

00:07:21.140 And certainly Facebook and Instagram coming out with this with this policy as exposed by Reuters that that it's that it should be it's no longer it wouldn't violate their terms of conditions to to incite violence against Russians or Russian soldiers.

00:07:43.300 Now, what's interesting is that when the headline first came out, it said Russians in the headline and then they modified it to Russian soldiers.

00:07:51.340 But the text of the story still says Russians and Russian soldiers.

00:07:55.520 And they've they've they've kind of, you know, said since that, no, it's not, you know, we it's Russians, you know, we're still not going to allow hate speech against Russians.

00:08:06.900 But, you know, the language is pretty vague and the cat is out of the bag at this point.

00:08:11.200 And and and and, you know, what's more is that we've also normalized the Azov battalion, which is another extraordinary part of this.

00:08:19.540 We've normalized neo-Nazis we like and now these these these these guys are menacing there by all accounts, you know, far right and anti-Semitic.

00:08:36.260 And this has all been well documented.

00:08:38.980 The Canadian military has, in fact, trained the Azov battalion.

00:08:42.840 The Azov battalion is not some French group.

00:08:45.180 They're part of the Ukrainian National Guard and a very significant part of the Ukrainian National Guard.

00:08:52.320 But any, you know, if you if you were to point to the Azov battalion and in the problems they pose, you know, one receives a lot of pushback saying, well, you know, it's just a small fringe and they don't really represent, you know, anything much beyond the fact that they're just a small far right fringe group.

00:09:12.680 But that's not correct. They're they're very prominent on the on Ukrainian streets.

00:09:19.040 Any any any. And, you know, it was thanks to the mainstream media that we know of the Azov battalion.

00:09:26.380 And they were reporting on the Azov battalion before the conflict broke out.

00:09:31.700 You know, it was they were they were rightly reporting on them and and rightly exposing them for what they what they are.

00:09:38.700 But what we're seeing right now is an attempt to basically whitewash them.

00:09:43.180 You you you you know, and and that's quite troubling and scary because we've now reached a point where we were basically normalizing these things because because they're on our side, essentially.

00:09:58.140 Right. That's what it amounts to.

00:09:59.540 Well, it's really wild, the extent of it.

00:10:02.540 I know this is sort of a rabbit hole to go down, but it was the legacy media at one point that was ringing the alarm bell about the rise of the far right in Eastern Europe.

00:10:13.460 I didn't pay much attention to it, to be honest, at the time, because we hear the legacy media cry wolf so frequently about the far right in North America.

00:10:21.920 And it's usually just a bunch of nothing.

00:10:24.300 Right. They accuse Jewish journalist Ezra Levant of being a far right.

00:10:30.820 And that's sort of laughable, given that, again, he he's Jewish and he's he's been a longtime free speech crusader. 0.98

00:10:38.300 However, I have started to look down this documented by legacy media picked up a lot by left wing media outlets and left wing groups.

00:10:46.540 There was a long piece in a weekly magazine called The Nation, which happens to be the U.S.'s longest running weekly newsletter.

00:10:54.940 It was started in 1865 by a group of abolitionists who were opposed to slavery.

00:11:00.740 Anyway, they're a progressive outlet and they they wrote about an individual called Andre Paraby.

00:11:05.520 I had a piece about him in True North this morning.

00:11:08.760 And basically, this guy was a neo-Nazi in the 1990s.

00:11:13.620 He was created a far right political party, a racist, ultra nationalist party limited to white Ukrainians only.

00:11:22.020 So we're talking about real far right Nazi like racism. 0.73

00:11:26.020 He styled the party after Hitler's Nazi party.

00:11:29.000 He even called it the Social Nationalist Party, a sort of take on the National Socialist Party, which creates which was a formation of the Nazi party in Nazi Germany.

00:11:38.660 Anyways, this guy was a part of the mainstream Ukrainian government.

00:11:42.240 And he was a speaker of the legislative house.

00:11:44.260 He met frequently with Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland.

00:11:47.100 Chrystia Freeland, you know, posted pictures of herself with this guy on her Facebook page, on the embassy website.

00:11:54.160 All you have to do is just Google this guy to find pictures of him wearing Nazi style uniforms, you know, talking about racial nationalism,

00:12:02.720 founding this party that remains the ultra right party in Ukraine.

00:12:08.200 And it's all kind of hidden in plain sight, Rupa.

00:12:11.460 And yet no one's really holding our politicians accountable.

00:12:15.820 I know we talked about this before.

00:12:17.020 The fact that Chrystia Freeland was seen holding a Nazi banner and the media just sort of whitewashed it and said it was it was it wasn't really blood and soil.

00:12:25.880 It meant something different and coming up with a bizarre explanation.

00:12:29.500 So, you know, let's pivot and talk a little bit about Chrystia Freeland.

00:12:35.920 You know, why is it that the media and the Canadian government is so dead set on whitewashing Ukraine,

00:12:42.280 telling us that they are a, you know, pristine Western liberal democracy and that they are, you know, worthy of us perhaps getting involved in a catastrophic war on the other side of the world?

00:12:55.660 You know, what do you think is behind all this?

00:12:59.840 Well, that's a great question.

00:13:01.700 I do think that this the stakes are very high here for the West, right?

00:13:07.000 They see and it is very high for Russia.

00:13:10.000 The conflict, I think a lot of people don't really understand what this conflict really is about.

00:13:15.100 They've bought the narrative that it is a good versus evil.

00:13:20.840 You know, it's been set up as a good versus evil thing, us versus them.

00:13:25.660 And that's mainly a narrative that has come out from the West.

00:13:30.620 And a lot of people just have bought into it.

00:13:32.440 But I bet, you know, if you stop the average person on the street and ask them, well, what do you think this conflict really is about?

00:13:38.740 Why do you think Russia is doing what it's doing?

00:13:40.600 Why is the West responding the way it's responding?

00:13:43.300 I don't think anybody really understands what NATO is about or what NATO's relevance was after the Cold War ended.

00:13:50.240 And spheres of influence, ask anybody, what does a sphere of influence mean to you?

00:13:57.040 And would the U.S. be comfortable if there were nukes pointing at it from Mexico or Canada?

00:14:04.640 And that's basically what Russia's been saying for about a decade or more.

00:14:12.020 Since about 2005, I think, when Vladimir Putin at that famous Munich Security Conference made it very clear that, you know, Ukraine was Russia's sphere of influence.

00:14:22.660 These are details that the average person just doesn't understand.

00:14:27.080 So what we're seeing is a replay of very much in place shortly after 9-11.

00:14:38.500 It was very similar.

00:14:40.300 We didn't have social media at that time.

00:14:42.560 But a lot of the media coverage was about good versus evil, us versus them, with us or against us, as George Bush famously said.

00:14:51.940 And that's exactly what is going on right now.

00:14:55.220 But what is extraordinary about this is that it's happening in the era of social media.

00:15:00.900 And you would think that, you know, there are people who are questioning this narrative.

00:15:06.520 But by and large, the mainstream media has bought into this us versus them.

00:15:11.800 You know, you're seeing them towing the government line, looking at government press, pointing to government press releases to say, hey, you know, this is a fact check.

00:15:25.100 Using a government press release and a fact check saying, well, that's why this story is wrong, because the government said so.

00:15:32.040 Now, when was the last time you, you know, you accepted everything a government said with, you know, and, you know, didn't question it or challenge it enough?

00:15:41.520 And that's what's going on right now.

00:15:43.360 So for our politicians, I think, you know, they have a particular interest here to ensure that this narrative continues, that this narrative, there isn't pushback against this narrative.

00:15:56.020 And I think that's what we're seeing with the likes of Chrystia Freeland or Justin Trudeau.

00:16:01.860 So they're trying to normalize this, you know, good versus evil battle.

00:16:07.480 And so anything that was bad about Ukraine, which, in fact, the legacy media, the mainstream media exposed all of these things.

00:16:15.900 Zelensky was, he shows up in the Panama Papers, for example.

00:16:19.600 Zelensky shut down the Kyiv Post because the Kyiv Post was going after Zelensky.

00:16:26.680 And this happened just less than a year ago, last fall.

00:16:30.200 Back in November, the Kyiv Post was shut down.

00:16:32.740 And the editor of the Kyiv Post said, we've gone through all kinds of presidents, all kinds of ruling dispensations.

00:16:38.980 But we've never had, we've never had to shut down.

00:16:42.880 It's only happened under Zelensky.

00:16:45.300 And because they were, they were questioning Zelensky's, the Kyiv Post was questioning Zelensky's liberal image that he had projected to the world.

00:16:56.020 And they were challenging that.

00:16:58.360 And so they were shut down as a result.

00:17:00.160 And then that morphed into the Kyiv Independent.

00:17:02.520 Now, what's interesting about the Kyiv Independent is that it receives money from Western governments, so much for their independence.

00:17:09.960 Canada gave, I think, $200,000 back in December and was, again, reported in the mainstream media.

00:17:17.580 It was reported by the Globe and Mail.

00:17:19.960 We're not, so, you know, so when we, when we accept what is coming out of Kyiv Independent, and a lot of people are, they're just, they just retweet these new, these tweets.

00:17:32.520 You know, without challenging it in the tiniest bit, you have to wonder what, you know, what that is about.

00:17:41.160 If the Russians are capable of propaganda, the Ukrainians are also capable of propaganda, so are Western governments.

00:17:48.660 And so we're seeing, you know, a normalization of these very unsavory aspects, whitewashing of Ukraine's past, whitewashing of this conflict.

00:18:02.360 You know, no one's actually, actually thinking clearly through these issues.

00:18:07.480 We're just, because I think it's easier for the brain to process this as binaries, moral binaries.

00:18:13.100 And that's where we're at right now.

00:18:16.380 Well, there isn't a journalist in the world that Dustin Trudeau won't buy out and won't pay, apparently, because he's willing to pay off the Canadian media.

00:18:23.580 And apparently he's willing to fund Ukrainian media as well.

00:18:27.080 It seems like we're making so many of the same mistakes, Rupa, that we did after 9-11 that led us to incredibly horrific bloodshed in the Middle East.

00:18:35.880 And, you know, usually you would want to be skeptical and hold both sides accountable.

00:18:42.000 We saw last week the Ukrainians pulling out a prisoner of war, allegedly, and, you know, having him answer questions from the media and sort of repeat these confessions, saying I was wrong and now I've seen the light.

00:18:58.140 This is specifically banned in the Geneva Convention.

00:19:01.640 You're not supposed to use prisoners of war for propaganda purposes.

00:19:06.320 And yet we had the media in Canada and all over the world gleefully sharing this video of this soldier.

00:19:12.940 I pointed out, as many did, that these were, this contravenes the Geneva Convention on the Treatment of War Prisoners.

00:19:21.680 And, you know, David Akin, the seasoned journalist and a bureau chief for Global News, accused me of pearl clutching.

00:19:30.080 So apparently the Geneva Convention, anyone who cares about the Geneva Convention, is simply pearl clutching.

00:19:36.940 There's a broader issue here, though, Rupa, which is that we're not properly holding our politicians to account.

00:19:42.820 The media just isn't doing the job that it's supposed to.

00:19:46.060 One of the other pieces that you wrote is really interesting.

00:19:48.460 I know this is a year old, but people keep sending it to me.

00:19:50.640 And there's a lot of public interest around the World Economic Forum and Chrysia Freeland's role with it because, you know, she's the finance minister of Canada.

00:20:00.160 So, first of all, she's supposed to be holding a domestic portfolio, which would which would mean that she should be in Canada focused on keeping Canada's budget balanced or keeping our finances in order.

00:20:10.880 For some reason, she's in Europe sort of taking the lead as if she was still the foreign affairs minister, which she is not.

00:20:17.360 But but also the fact that she sits on the board of this wonky organization that calls for all kinds of crazy leftist schemes. 1.00

00:20:24.760 Now, I know that there's a lot of conspiracy theories around the World Economic Forum.

00:20:28.880 You have a great line in the piece where you say there's no need to invent conspiracy theories.

00:20:32.080 The attempt to the attempt by global elites to subvert local democracy is fully on and in plain view.

00:20:39.700 Sometimes I wonder I've done a lot of research on Chrysia Freeland lately, learning about her past, learning about the involvement in Ukraine that she's had over the years.

00:20:48.020 She's really an activist over there. 0.87

00:20:49.860 The former Canadian ambassador to Moscow met her when she was in her 20s and she was working over there as a journalist.

00:20:56.720 And he described her as a Ukrainian patriot.

00:20:59.220 Right.

00:20:59.400 I don't think that I've ever heard her described as a Canadian patriot, but she is a Ukrainian patriot.

00:21:04.960 She's deeply involved.

00:21:05.740 Her mother helped draft that country's constitution after it became independent from the USSR in the 90s.

00:21:11.560 So she's deeply involved in Ukraine, as is her her whole family.

00:21:16.600 That's where she immigrated from or her her ancestors immigrated from.

00:21:20.860 Tell us a little bit about the World Economic Forum and Chrysia Freeland's role there, why that concerns you.

00:21:25.180 And and let's talk a little bit about whether or not there's a conflict of interest and why there isn't more scrutiny of Chrysia Freeland, who's a deputy prime minister, the finance minister, the most important female politician, probably the most powerful woman in all of Canada.

00:21:38.860 And yet the media can't be bothered to scrutinize her or try to hold her accountable in any way, shape or form. 0.99

00:21:45.780 Well, so the World Economic Forum is this glitzy gathering of of the who's who of the, you know, the world of finance, politics, you name it.

00:22:00.060 And and, you know, they've been meeting at this Swiss ski resort of of Davos since I think since 1971.

00:22:09.060 And it's it was created by the German academic and entrepreneur, Klaus Schwab.

00:22:15.480 And what what what what is interesting about Chrysia Freeland's connection to the World Economic Forum is that Chrysia Freeland used to be a big critic of the World Economic Forum. 0.86

00:22:27.400 In fact, she wrote a book about the World Economic Forum or she wrote a book about the rise of the new global super rich and and the fall of everyone else.

00:22:37.780 That's what that's what it was called, plutocrats. And and she said that that, you know, an invitation to Davos, quoting from her book, marks an aspiring plutocrat's arrival on the international scene.

00:22:53.180 When she wrote this book and she wrote an opinion piece in The Guardian, Chrysia Freeland joked that, you know, after her book was published, she was disinvited to all of the dinner parties at Davos.

00:23:05.300 And from that, that was back in 2015, we now have Chrysia Freeland sitting on the advisory board of the World Economic Forum.

00:23:14.340 She also used to sit on the board of the Aspen Kiev Institute in Ukraine.

00:23:21.540 And and I believe she resigned from that post May 2021.

00:23:27.540 But but she was she was certainly a part of their board till then.

00:23:31.920 And and and what is what what I what I find interesting about this is that now think about think about this example, hypothetically, suppose you have the minister of health sitting on the board of a big pharma company or a lobby group or or or, you know, on behalf of the tobacco industry.

00:23:51.160 I think at a bare minimum, that would be bad optics, right?

00:23:55.440 I don't think I'd be alone in alone in saying that.

00:23:59.980 But for some reason, we seem to think that NGOs are should be treated differently.

00:24:07.940 You know, politicians can't sit on corporate boards while in office.

00:24:11.540 But why should they be allowed to sit on the boards of NGOs and the World Economic Forum is not just some innocuous, non-governmental organization.

00:24:21.280 It is built around a very specific and radical ideology now called the Great Reset.

00:24:29.760 You know, they advocate for all kinds of things like massive reductions in fossil fuel use, prioritizing climate change, how climate change should be should become a core component of central banking.

00:24:44.260 You know, in a position that our former governor here, Mark Carney, potential future prime minister, also believes in this very strongly.

00:24:56.480 And I believe he's also on the board of the World Economic Forum.

00:25:00.800 And these these policy positions, you know, have implications, you know, for a resource rich country like Canada.

00:25:10.240 These are going to have major consequences.

00:25:12.200 So what it's bad optics to be on the board of these private organizations.

00:25:21.560 But she resigned, Freeland resigned from one, but she still remains on the other.

00:25:27.460 And and given that she was a vociferous critic of the World Economic Forum, she went from that to being an insider herself.

00:25:36.120 Right. Plutocrats was a was a critique of these of these people.

00:25:39.380 And now she's rubbing shoulders with them and wants to be part of it.

00:25:41.780 There's a really infamous image that the World Economic Forum put out.

00:25:46.300 This become a meme on the Internet is so absurd.

00:25:48.500 But it has a picture of a guy smiling and it says, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy, which, you know, it perfectly sums up, first of all, what these people are after.

00:25:58.960 You know, they don't they want everyone to do ride sharing and want you to own a car.

00:26:02.340 They don't want you to own a house.

00:26:03.280 They want you to rent.

00:26:03.840 They want you to sort of give up everything and join this sort of new post nationalist ideology, but also how out of touch they are, because they thought that that would be, you know, good branding for them or something to put something like this out.

00:26:17.020 So really, really strange.

00:26:20.120 Now, I know there are a lot of conspiracy theories around this.

00:26:23.020 People think that these people orchestrated the pandemic and all that kind of stuff.

00:26:28.360 I think it's pretty clear that that didn't happen.

00:26:31.360 However, these people are still pushing a leftist agenda and the fact that they have, you know, that the individual that you named the founder, Klaus Schwab, he there's a there's a video of him.

00:26:42.000 Actually, maybe we can play it where he talks about how he's infiltrated cabinets, including the Canadian cabinet.

00:26:47.800 But what we are very proud of now is the young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau, President of Argentina and so on, that we penetrate the cabinets.

00:27:02.980 So yesterday I was at a reception for Prime Minister Trudeau and I know that half of this cabinet or even more half of half of this cabinet are for our actually young global leaders of the world.

00:27:23.180 So a couple of weeks ago, we had a conservative MP, Colin Carey, ask about this.

00:27:29.320 And it was this question was ruled out on a port of order and an NDP MP accused him of disinformation and and pushing conspiracy theories.

00:27:39.140 So why is it that, again, in our political class, in our media class, we're not even allowed to ask questions of the most powerful people in the world who are actively trying to push an agenda onto us.

00:27:49.780 We can't ask questions about it because we're dismissed as disinformation and conspiracy theories.

00:27:53.600 Everything is being dismissed as disinformation and conspiracy theory these days.

00:27:59.700 And it is basically it puts an end to the conversation.

00:28:03.480 Right. And it's a very, very insidious attempt at basically try to silence.

00:28:13.740 You know, it has a chilling effect on free speech.

00:28:16.060 And and then that's what's going on here.

00:28:20.860 I don't you know.

00:28:23.060 Yes, I mean, there are conspiracy theories about Klaus Schwab.

00:28:25.640 I don't I don't buy into those conspiracy conspiracy theories.

00:28:29.180 My problem is that, you know, when you look at the advisory board of the World Economic Forum,

00:28:34.640 there's only one politician on there.

00:28:36.440 And that's Chrystia Freeland, where where are the you know, where where are the Brits, where where are the Americans?

00:28:44.480 I'm talking about the advisory board.

00:28:46.340 I'm not talking about previous fellows who became members.

00:28:50.000 And, you know, and maybe that page hasn't been updated yet.

00:28:53.660 And, you know, and those some of those folks are now serving up, you know, their politicians now.

00:28:59.920 So I'm not talking about those people.

00:29:01.580 I'm talking about the advisory board, which is a very powerful body.

00:29:05.500 And and I think at the very least, I think, you know, we an explanation is in order.

00:29:13.100 Why does the finance minister of Canada sit on this powerful advisory board of the World Economic Forum?

00:29:22.000 What is the significance of that?

00:29:24.500 And there are questions as a journalist, as a former journalist, Chrystia Freeland would be asking these very same questions.

00:29:30.480 She would be asking this question to the person who was very critical of the World Economic Forum.

00:29:36.980 And so you've gone from an outsider to an insider.

00:29:39.500 Now, how do you explain that?

00:29:41.600 And these are legitimate questions.

00:29:43.400 And I think I think and these are uncomfortable questions.

00:29:46.700 Perhaps that's why they're I find that when people can't answer these questions and it makes them uncomfortable,

00:29:51.980 it, you know, and they don't want to go down this rabbit hole there, there, you know, they just silence you and they try to silence you and they call call you and they accuse you of spreading disinformation.

00:30:05.500 But it's not disinformation.

00:30:06.820 These are very important questions and we need to continue asking them.

00:30:10.820 The fact of the matter, Candice, is that, you know, I happened to find this accidentally.

00:30:19.160 I was actually going to be writing a bland piece about Davos and what they were going to be saying and, you know, in the context of COVID.

00:30:26.960 And I was just just routinely just going through the advisory board.

00:30:30.160 And I was shocked, you know, to see the finance minister of Canada on their list, on the advisory board.

00:30:37.840 The media had, you know, she's been on the advisory board for, I think, since 2018.

00:30:42.560 The media had all of that time to point this out or for the fact that she was on the Kiev Aspen Institute in Kiev. 0.58

00:30:53.920 You know, they had ample time to point this out.

00:30:56.460 But, you know, I believe nobody did until I wrote this piece.

00:31:00.400 And I was actually quite taken aback by the reaction to it because a lot of people hadn't, they weren't aware of it, simply.

00:31:08.620 And also the fact that she resigned from the Aspen Institute, that should have also been newsworthy.

00:31:13.660 I think it should have been pointed out.

00:31:15.840 Why was the finance minister, someone who has close personal ties to Ukraine, extremely close personal ties to Ukraine, you know, why was she on this board until recently?

00:31:27.260 And these are questions that we're not raising because we are, I think, large sections of the media, the political class.

00:31:35.300 I really don't want to go here for some reason because it might, maybe it's lazy.

00:31:44.760 You know, I don't want to, I don't want to assume that everybody here, you know, is sinister.

00:31:49.400 And, you know, and, you know, I don't want to think that the whole, that everything is a conspiracy theory.

00:31:54.220 I think part of this is actually laziness.

00:31:56.620 I think a lot of people just don't want to pursue these topics.

00:32:00.380 You know, they're just happy with, you know, just recording just verbatim government press releases and, you know, and pointing to those as facts without actually questioning any of that.

00:32:13.980 So part of it is laziness.

00:32:15.540 And I think part of it is also that some people have just bought into this narrative and they would, and so asking these questions would actually challenge that narrative.

00:32:24.820 Well, and we also know that Chrystia Freeland's office particularly is very active in calling newsrooms and demanding corrections and changing stories because we saw that come out of iPolitics when one of their young reporters, Rachel Emanuel, who we had on the program yesterday, she talked about how she wrote a critical piece of Freeland.

00:32:43.520 Freeland's office called, yelled at her editor to the point where the editor unilaterally went and changed the story completely without getting her approval. 0.90

00:32:50.560 That's the kind of sway that Freeland and her team have in Ottawa, that they can just call a newsroom, yell at them, and the story will magically change into a pro-Christia Freeland piece.

00:33:02.060 You know, when you have someone like Schwab openly saying that he has infiltrated the government, that's very strong language to use.

00:33:09.340 And I think that journalists, it's probably a combination of the things you talked about, laziness, complicity, a little bit of political interference.

00:33:18.160 But really the outcome is that we have a media in Canada that doesn't do what it's supposed to do.

00:33:23.420 It doesn't hold powerful people like Chrystia Freeland to account.

00:33:27.060 Well, Rupa, we're so grateful that you have your voice in the National Post and that you are doing your bit to keep the legacy media honest.

00:33:34.860 We appreciate hearing from you and thank you so much.

00:33:37.580 Thank you, Candice.

00:33:38.680 Rupa Subramana of the National Post.

00:33:40.780 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

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The Candice Malcolm Show - March 16, 2022

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