The Candice Malcolm Show - Jagmeet Singh OFFICIALLY qualifies for multi-million dollar pension

00:00:00.000 Hi, welcome to the Candice Malcolm show. I am your host Candice Malcolm. We have a fantastic

00:00:12.060 show for you today. We're going to talk about the Ontario election. We're going to go and

00:00:16.960 do a bit of a deep dive into the parties and the topics and the important issues facing

00:00:22.240 people in this province. And we're going to talk about the liberal leadership debate last

00:00:28.000 night, the French language debate, which let me just say it was a disaster for Mark Carney.

00:00:32.440 Not that you would know if you watch the legacy media who are completely covering for him,

00:00:36.060 but we will go through and break that down. But first I think congratulations is in order

00:00:40.720 for NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. Yes. At midnight last night at midnight, he officially qualified

00:00:47.580 for a multi-million dollar pension, a gold plated taxpayer funded multi-billion dollar pension.

00:00:55.740 Well, congratulations, Jagmeet Singh, man, you earned it. All you had to do was sell out

00:01:01.440 your country, sell out your values, sell out your constituents, sell out the country. And

00:01:06.180 in return, you got your multi-million dollar pension. I hope it is worth it. So maybe does

00:01:12.080 this mean that we can finally have an election in this country? Can we finally have a choice

00:01:16.280 and a say in who represents us and who will be our prime minister? Let's hope so. So let's

00:01:21.860 just walk you through it. So Jagmeet Singh was first elected six years ago today. And that

00:01:28.460 means six years is what the time required to qualify for a federal pension as a member of

00:01:34.520 parliament. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation estimates that if Jagmeet Singh took his pension

00:01:39.680 early, took it at age 55 and lives to age 90, taxpayers will be on the hook for approximately

00:01:45.340 2.3 million dollars to Jagmeet Singh. In order to get a pension, you must serve for six years.

00:01:52.240 And if you serve before 2016, you get your full pension at 55. Jagmeet Singh came in after that.

00:01:57.840 So he gets his full pension at 65, but he can have a reduced pension if he would like starting

00:02:03.680 at age 55. And their pension equates to about 23% of their salary. Must be nice. Must be nice.

00:02:12.260 I am a entrepreneur and a business owner. And if you are a business owner or if you work in the

00:02:17.440 private sector, most likely you don't have any kind of pension. Certainly not a defined benefit

00:02:23.840 pension like these members of parliament get. And really, Jagmeet Singh should have pulled the plug

00:02:30.060 on this government 18 months ago or at least a year ago if he had a conscious conscience. If he had,

00:02:36.500 if he was doing what was best for the people in his riding, the people in this country,

00:02:40.220 Jagmeet Singh would have forced an election before Justin Trudeau could continue to do the damage

00:02:44.980 that he did. But many speculate that the real reason that Jagmeet Singh continued to prop up

00:02:50.300 this liberal government time and time and time again, upwards of 200 times, the reason he did it

00:02:56.280 was for his own paycheck, for his own self-interest, because he wanted that pension. Well, presumably now

00:03:01.560 that the pension is here, Jagmeet, you can finally do the right thing. Don't worry. Taxpayers are going to

00:03:05.780 take care of you. But please, please let us have an election. And speaking of elections,

00:03:10.720 the Liberals held their first leadership debate last night. Remember that they worked in extra

00:03:16.960 overdrive to make sure that Ruby Dalla was disqualified, kicking her out over the weekend. 0.89

00:03:22.140 She didn't even know about it. She found out live on a CBC interview. CBC got the news from the

00:03:27.940 Liberal Party before the candidate herself even learned. Completely ridiculous. So they wanted to do 0.98

00:03:33.880 everything they could to keep her off the stage. And now we know why. Because Mark Carney, who is

00:03:38.660 completely untested, right? He's never been elected. He's never even tried to be elected. He's

00:03:43.040 never been part of an election before. We saw why. He was a complete disaster on the stage last night.

00:03:50.820 He was incoherent. He could barely string his sentences together. He was reading off a cue card.

00:03:55.620 He's just not very good at this. He's not very good at this. And the media don't want you to know about

00:03:59.620 that, which is why you wouldn't really know how bad it was for him if you were just watching

00:04:04.540 the traditional press. So we've got a couple of clips for you. Really,

00:04:09.000 Chrystia Freeland was the one who was kind of dominating the event last night. She speaks fluent 0.99

00:04:14.860 French. And look, I am personally not a French speaker. And I don't necessarily think it's

00:04:19.860 important that everyone speaks French. I don't even care if the Conservative leader speaks French,

00:04:24.000 because most of the people who vote for the Conservative Party are not in the French-speaking

00:04:27.800 part of the country. But for the Liberals, it's a different standard, because the Liberal Party

00:04:31.720 is the party that wins in Quebec. They are the party that supposedly represents the sort of

00:04:37.260 bilingualism of this country, French and English. And by their own standards, you should speak French.

00:04:43.020 So the fact that Mark Kearney couldn't was a little bit of an embarrassment, given the fact that this guy

00:04:47.460 has been mentioned in circles of potentially being a prime minister for like a decade.

00:04:53.300 Justin Trudeau has been trying to recruit him into his cabinet for years and years and years. He's

00:04:58.620 been advising Justin Trudeau. He knew that this time was coming. It's actually pretty surprising

00:05:02.340 and pretty embarrassing how bad his French really was. We're going to get to that in a second. We'll

00:05:06.720 start with Chrystia Freeland, who was doing her whole shtick. So let me just say, if you watch this 0.69

00:05:11.340 debate, and you believe everything you said, you would think that we were like on the verge of World

00:05:15.980 War III, Canada versus the United States, because this issue of the Trump tariffs dominated the event.

00:05:21.600 Every single thing went back to it. The liberals are really sort of beating the drum of fear and

00:05:27.820 trying to create fear and outrage over the Trump comments. And it was really clear. So here is a

00:05:36.740 clip of Chrystia Freeland saying that Trump represents the greatest threat to Canada since the Second World

00:05:43.500 War. Trump represents the greatest threat to Canada since World War II.

00:05:51.600 He is threatening us with an economic war. And that's nothing new. The last time that he was

00:05:57.020 president, he threatened us too. And at the end of the day, I succeeded in protecting our economy.

00:06:05.240 But this time, Trump's threats are worse. He wants to turn Canada into the 51st state. And it's no joke.

00:06:13.420 So the entire sort of manufactured crisis that Donald Trump is coming to invade us and that he

00:06:19.620 wants our minerals and that he's literal and he's super serious that he's going to invade Canada.

00:06:23.180 That was the theme of the night. Mark Carney echoing this, saying that this is the biggest crisis of

00:06:28.500 our lifetime, that this is bigger than COVID. This is bigger than the 2008 financial crisis.

00:06:34.320 This is the biggest crisis ever in Canada. And Mark Carney supposedly is the only one that can

00:06:39.940 save us from this. Let's play that clip. At this time, Canada is facing the worst crisis of our

00:06:47.860 lifetime. And to get through it, we have to make big changes. I can be useful there. I know how to

00:07:00.220 get through crises. Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your

00:07:06.420 mouth. Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light. Rich, creamy, chocolatey

00:07:12.600 aero truffle. Feel the aero bubbles melt. It's mind bubbling.

00:07:18.240 So you could see him stumbling and awkwardly pushing through his words there, reading off a cue card.

00:07:23.940 Not very smooth. There was a couple of huge gaffes that Mark Carney had last night. I think the big one

00:07:28.500 of the night when he was talking about foreign policy and he was talking about Hamas. And basically

00:07:34.080 he said that he agrees with Hamas. I think he meant to say that he agrees on Hamas. And even at the time 0.61

00:07:41.860 when he was saying it, Chrystia Freeland kind of jumped in to save him. And she hurriedly injected

00:07:46.140 against, against, because he accidentally said we agree with Hamas. Again, just showing how he doesn't

00:07:52.960 really speak French properly. Another one that came up was they were talking about the CBC and how

00:07:58.560 Pierre Polyev rightfully wants to defund the CBC. And Mark Carney was rambling incoherently and said

00:08:05.700 something about how Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec. Apparently, according to Mark Carney,

00:08:11.560 Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec. Again, I don't think he meant to say that, but that's what he said.

00:08:15.380 And it just shows how out of depth he is. I spoke to a Quebec commentator,

00:08:22.060 a fellow named Jean-Philippe Fournier, who was a former advisor, a chief of staff to the finance

00:08:27.820 minister in Quebec. And he told me, this is what he said to me. He said, Carney was surprisingly bad

00:08:33.020 at French, oftentimes seemed visibly confused or unable to read basic questions, right? So he

00:08:40.380 basically just was a disgrace is what Jean-Philippe told me. He said he might not survive a real debate

00:08:48.280 against Pierre Polyev. And this was actually echoed on the CBC of all places. Stephen Taylor,

00:08:54.840 a conservative activist on X, reports that French CBC predicts that Mark Carney would get destroyed

00:09:01.180 in a French debate against Mark Carney. Imagine how conflicted those Laurentian elites will feel

00:09:07.220 when their golden boy, Mark Carney, embarrasses himself, again, not being able to speak French

00:09:12.840 properly in a debate against a conservative who happens to speak fluent French. That's not going

00:09:18.040 to go over very well. So things aren't going well for the Liberals federally. The English debate is

00:09:24.600 actually tonight. And you can join, I will be, we're going to do a live event alongside the debate,

00:09:30.520 myself and Kian Bexty. So we will be with you live tonight to walk you through the English debate.

00:09:36.920 We're really looking forward to that. And there's another election happening in this country right

00:09:42.200 now. It's going to be on Thursday is the election day in Ontario. Will Doug Ford get his third

00:09:49.240 consecutive majority government? It looks like it. Recent polls show the PCs are up at 45%

00:09:57.240 with the Liberals trailing at 27 and the NDP down at 19, which could equate to the PCs having as much as

00:10:04.440 91 seats in Queens Park, again, cruising towards their third majority. But you know what? The

00:10:10.840 progressive conservatives aren't the only choice on the political right. You could argue that the

00:10:15.480 press preserves aren't on the political right anymore, that they are a centrist or in many ways,

00:10:20.040 a center left party, which is not what we wanted, not what we expected, but that is what has come to

00:10:26.040 pass. So today I'm very delighted to be joined by people who represent that other conservative

00:10:31.480 alternative and option in this election, the Ontario party. So I'm joined by Ontario party leader,

00:10:38.120 Derek Sloan. He's been the leader since 2021. You might remember Derek Sloan because he used to be

00:10:43.400 a conservative member of parliament and he ran in the leadership race. The one to replace Andrew Scheer

00:10:51.400 ended up losing to Erin O'Toole, getting expelled from the caucus in 2021. So he joins the program

00:10:57.240 alongside Randy Hilliard. Randy Hilliard is a former member of the provincial parliament

00:11:01.720 from 2007 to 2022, and he now holds a senior leadership role in the Ontario party. So Randy,

00:11:07.880 Derek, great to have you on the program. Thanks for joining us.

00:11:10.200 I'm with you this morning, Candice.

00:11:13.880 Great. Well, I see you there, Randy. I don't know where Derek is,

00:11:16.840 but hopefully he'll jump on and join us in a moment.

00:11:19.000 So the election, sorry, go ahead. I said, I think we may be having some difficulty

00:11:24.440 with his technology and connection, but we'll see if we get him back on shortly.

00:11:29.000 Okay. Excellent. Well, we'll keep trying behind the scenes there. But first, Randy,

00:11:32.760 why don't you just tell us a little bit about the Ontario party? What is it? What do they stand for?

00:11:37.240 And how did you get involved? Well, the Ontario party, of course,

00:11:41.160 is just a provincial party. We don't engage in national politics, but I think it's important for

00:11:47.240 people to understand Ontario is the largest pro party, largest province in our confederation.

00:11:54.920 And so goes Ontario goes confederation in many aspects. We are 40% of the population, 40% of the

00:12:04.360 GDP. So the federal government can't do much without Ontario's agreement. And we have seen Doug Ford

00:12:15.800 and Justin Trudeau and now Mark Carney, all singing from the same song sheet. You wouldn't know that

00:12:23.080 they're from different parties, actually. They're so close together. But the Ontario party represents

00:12:31.240 those people who want to see smaller, less government, the people who would rather have a

00:12:39.240 doge in Ontario rather than a Ford in Ontario, if I might say, and who stand to represent and promote

00:12:48.440 and protect faith, freedom, and our families, which have been very significantly abused and taken

00:12:57.800 an advantage of by all of the established political parties. So we're offering a very distinct choice.

00:13:04.920 And of course, I'm glad to join with Derek Sloan as leader of the party. Derek and I have similar

00:13:12.520 backgrounds. We're both from elected office in conservative parties. And we were also both removed

00:13:21.160 from our caucuses. We both attempted to run for the leadership of our respective parties. But we're both

00:13:31.080 outspoken and believe elected representatives should have a voice and not just a muzzle. And that's with

00:13:40.040 all established parties. The muzzle comes first in the obedience rather than the representation.

00:13:49.320 Interesting. Okay. Well, why don't you tell us, so one of the things that sort of for me as a mother of

00:13:55.880 little kids and looking at some of the things that the Ontario government has done, you know,

00:14:01.080 I had some high hopes for Doug Ford because he came in opposing Kathleen Wynne's really controversial

00:14:07.960 sex education program that she implemented. And he seemed like he was going to be a bit more like

00:14:15.160 a social conservative. He even said that he was pro-life at one point. And I think we've been sorely

00:14:20.600 disappointed, to put it mildly, based on so much of the legislation that they've put forward. I mean,

00:14:26.920 everything from imposing racial equity in classes. Remember that Bill 67? I had Barbara Kay on my show 1.00

00:14:34.000 back in 2022, and she adamantly warned against it and how it was basically just instilling this idea

00:14:41.160 that Canada is a bunch of white supremacists and that we need some kind of a radical equity program in

00:14:47.820 our schools. There's also been really controversial things when it comes to gender ideology, the radical 0.87

00:14:53.900 gender ideology that is putting that lens into our classrooms. True North Sue Ann Levy has written

00:15:03.020 many pieces on how woke Ontario schools have become. And it's really a concern to parents. So why don't you

00:15:10.140 tell us a little bit about the education in specific, like what would an Ontario party advocate differently?

00:15:18.140 Well, you're absolutely correct. And like you, we had high hopes. I had high hopes. I was a member of the

00:15:26.060 Conservative Caucus in Ontario when Ford won his majority in 2018. And of course, everything that you

00:15:34.300 just said, Candice, is absolutely true. Ford did campaign to remove the sex ed curriculum from our

00:15:42.140 schools and gave every indication that he was going to govern as an actual Conservative. But as we've seen

00:15:54.780 with so many other Conservative leaders, you campaign on the right and you govern to the left. And Ford

00:16:04.220 has been no different than so many others. And, you know, as I said at the outset, Ford and Trudeau and now

00:16:14.940 Carney, there is no light between these three on any subject. And, you know, we're proposing that

00:16:26.220 parents actually take back education from these bureaucrats and from these left-wing ideologues who are

00:16:36.540 destroying, confusing, distorting our youngsters' minds with this rainbow agenda that they have, 1.00

00:16:48.460 with this critical race theory. And one of our outstanding solutions to this is to breed

00:16:58.700 that competition into the education system and choice by establishing vouchers for parents to,

00:17:10.620 so they can select which school they might want and allow private educational institutions to flourish in

00:17:21.180 Ontario and allow parents that choice so that their children can actually be educated rather than indoctrinated.

00:17:31.900 Great. Well, it looks like we're finally joined by Derek Sloan on the line. Derek, can you hear me?

00:17:39.260 Derek, well, I can see him, but I don't know that he can hear us. So, okay, we'll stick with you, Randy.

00:17:45.580 Can you tell us, like, what are... I can. Thank you, Katie, just for having us today.

00:17:50.620 Oh, great. Okay. Well, you can, we can hear you, Derek, but we can, we can't really see you.

00:17:56.860 You're, I think your screen might be frozen there.

00:18:02.940 Okay. It looks like Derek's still having some...

00:18:07.740 Okay. Yeah, we can hear you, Derek. So, thanks for joining the show.

00:18:10.780 If you can hear me, I can hear you. Fine.

00:18:12.220 Okay. Yeah. So, Randy was just telling us, Derek, about the education platform for the Ontario Party.

00:18:20.220 Why don't, why don't you tell us a little bit more of your motivation with the Ontario Party,

00:18:24.380 what your, what brought you to the party and what it is that you're running on in this election?

00:18:35.020 Can you hear me, Derek?

00:18:39.340 Sure. Can you hear me okay now, Kenneth?

00:18:42.220 Yeah, let's give it a go. Can you, can you tell us about your motivation?

00:18:46.780 Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me?

00:18:54.060 Go ahead, Derek. You're, you're, you're on.

00:18:56.540 Yes, of course. So, like many parents, uh, I, I heard a pretty, but we, we heard the rhetoric of Doug Ford.

00:19:04.460 Yes, I can. Yes, I can. Yes, I'm talking. Uh, can you guys hear me at all?

00:19:11.260 Yeah, go ahead, Derek. You're, you're.

00:19:16.940 Okay. We're going to move on here, folks. We're gonna, we're gonna try to get Derek back online.

00:19:23.100 Yes. A little later on.

00:19:24.620 So, so in 2018, we, we heard the.

00:19:31.660 Well, that's, that's unfortunate that we couldn't, uh, we couldn't connect properly with Derek there.

00:19:36.540 Um, so Randy, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go back to you. Uh, one of the, one of the things that

00:19:40.700 really piqued my interest now, we did a Twitter spaces or an X spaces last week. And one of the

00:19:45.500 things that you said was that your, your party, Ontario party is calling for a complete moratorium

00:19:52.060 on immigration. Um, I didn't know that the provincial government could do that. I know that Quebec has

00:19:57.580 some leeway when it comes to their provinces immigration program. Uh, why don't you walk us through

00:20:02.780 what, first of all, why you want a moratorium on immigration and how, uh, that would come about

00:20:08.220 provincially? Well, let's start off with, uh, rampant and uncontrolled immigration numbers are 0.95

00:20:15.340 impacting every aspect of our society, of our communities, um, of our standard of living and

00:20:21.900 well-being, uh, Candace. You know, this, uh, increasing number of new immigrants every year, uh,

00:20:29.820 foreign students, temporary foreign workers, refugees are putting great demands on our housing 1.00

00:20:38.140 stock. We, we have a increasing demand with new immigration, but a pretty static and stable, uh,

00:20:47.180 supply of housing. So this is putting upwards pressures significantly on the cost of housing,

00:20:53.500 um, not just for purchases, but also for rental. Um, and we're seeing

00:20:59.420 that in spades with the ramp inconceivable number of homeless in campus now that have sprung up across

00:21:08.380 Ontario, but it's also putting, uh, uh, two pressures on the, um, standard of living with respect to

00:21:16.380 employment. Uh, the increasing supply of labor is keeping it depressing wages. It's also, uh, with the

00:21:24.700 government's use of wage subsidies on new immigrants is putting, um, um, uh, new Canadians in an advantageous

00:21:36.620 position for jobs. They're getting, uh, uh, better access to jobs because the government is subsidizing

00:21:44.140 their employment. Um, so we're seeing an increasing unemployment rate as well as depressed wages with

00:21:51.660 the immigration policy. And it's also has other impacts, uh, on things like healthcare. You know,

00:21:58.060 when I left elected office just two and a half years ago, Candace, the, there was, uh, 1 million

00:22:05.420 Ontario people without a family doctor in Ontario, that number has skyrocketed now to two and a half

00:22:13.660 million, two and a half million people in Ontario can't find a family doctor. And of course, if you're

00:22:22.540 bringing in, uh, millions of people into the country every year, it shouldn't surprise anyone that we're

00:22:30.300 bringing in greater numbers and then we're able to, uh, recruit and train doctors, uh, bringing in, uh, our

00:22:39.020 our ability to, uh, improve our housing stocks. Um, and it's also having a huge and profound impact on

00:22:47.340 the, um, the educational and institutional scams with immigration. We see this with the, uh, scams on 0.68

00:22:55.260 the, uh, uh, private education, uh, where students, foreign students are coming here apparently to go to get

00:23:05.340 an education, but, um, but these schools, they never even attend school. Um, and we have the truck

00:23:14.460 driving scams, uh, often involved with, uh, or tied to immigration. And of course we also have this

00:23:22.380 explosion in, um, the, the criminal activity that's tied with this, um, immigration policy. And, and of

00:23:33.100 course, Donald Trump has spoken widely about that. Um, many of your audience may not be aware that

00:23:40.700 major Canadian bank headquartered here in, um, in Ontario was just recently convicted in the United

00:23:48.700 States and find $3 billion for facilitating and being involved in the money laundering of the drug

00:23:58.620 cartels and the criminal activity, uh, from immigration. That's the TD bank. The, uh, US states

00:24:06.060 have, uh, fined $3 billion and convicted them of this, uh, criminal money laundering and facilitating,

00:24:15.020 the criminal cartels. But our own attorney generals in the crown here in Canada have not touched, uh, that

00:24:25.100 subject at all. So, uh, we're now on the precipice of a very dangerous trade war. Um, um, and much of

00:24:34.860 it is centered around this immigration policy. So that's the background. The, the, the solution though

00:24:41.180 is pretty obvious. Uh, immigration is a shared concern. It's a shared jurisdiction in our constitution

00:24:48.540 between the provinces and the federal government. And, uh, we're just saying what is obvious,

00:24:54.460 we are going to take back our role in immigration. The federal government cannot, um, determine

00:25:02.780 unilaterally how many immigrants come to Ontario. And we're saying we're going to have zero until we

00:25:10.060 get our unemployment levels down to a very, um, uh, modest, uh, uh, position where until our housing

00:25:18.700 stocks and affordability is improved, until our education and our health care is improved, there'll

00:25:24.780 be zero new immigrants coming into Ontario. And in addition, we've also proposed that we would create

00:25:32.940 a new enforcement branch called the immigration and criminal enforcement, um, uh, branch that would be

00:25:41.580 tasked with investigating, um, the criminal activities engaged with these, uh, illegal immigration,

00:25:50.540 immigration and also the ability to, um, apprehend, um, uh, people who are here illegally and deport

00:25:59.740 them. So we will take ownership of our jurisdiction, which is included in the constitution.

00:26:07.500 So what would you do then? I mean, it's interesting how the positions have changed,

00:26:11.500 right? We had nine years of open borders with Justin Trudeau. And yet in the debate last night,

00:26:15.660 we heard Mark Carney pledging that he would also cap immigration, but they wouldn't,

00:26:20.220 they wouldn't cap it the way you would, they wouldn't have a full moratorium. So what would you do,

00:26:23.980 Randy, if there was a liberal government in power that wanted to bring in millions of newcomers each

00:26:29.100 year, how, how would you stop them? And how would you say we are not going to take any new ones in

00:26:33.900 Ontario? So historically what's happened, Candace, and this is, uh, what's happened with immigration is

00:26:40.220 the same as what we've allowed happen with our healthcare and education. The provinces have agreed,

00:26:47.580 uh, they've engaged in a memorandum of understanding that contractual arrangement with the federal

00:26:53.100 government to abdicate their jurisdiction in these positions in exchange for transfer funds.

00:27:01.340 The federal government can't do it unless there's agreement with the province. So, uh, the federal

00:27:07.660 government has agreed in the provinces have agreed to accept, uh, social, uh, substantial transfers

00:27:15.740 of, uh, taxpayers money for things like English as a second language, uh, subsidized housing, uh,

00:27:23.500 additional educational and social, uh, programs for immigrants in exchange for, um, uh, allowing the

00:27:32.780 feds to make all the decisions. We're, we're just simply going to say, we're not going to take

00:27:37.500 that money and, uh, and we're not going to allow immigrants. Uh, um, and unlike, uh, Trudeau and 0.99

00:27:45.180 Carney who are saying that they're going to reduce the rampant and uncontrolled immigration, we're 1.00

00:27:51.500 saying, no, we'll, until things are improved and fixed, there'll be zero new immigrants into our province.

00:28:00.220 Well, it's interesting because if you look at Canada's historic data with immigration, yes, we've

00:28:04.700 always had to have been a country that have welcomed immigrants and that's part of our DNA in our

00:28:08.780 country. Uh, but there's always been peaks and valleys, right? So you had periods where, you know,

00:28:14.380 four or five years where lots and lots of newcomers came and then basically we would close our doors

00:28:19.740 and say, okay, we're going to take a few years, let everybody intermix and integrate, and maybe we'll

00:28:25.260 take some more later. And it basically wasn't until the 1990s that we had a wall of just constantly

00:28:32.220 increasing immigration under both conservatives and liberals. Uh, we did have a quick reprieve during

00:28:37.740 COVID, um, where not a lot of people were coming just because of COVID. Uh, but now it's back, uh,

00:28:43.820 to levels absolutely unprecedented in, in Canadian history. And I think that that, uh, that consensus

00:28:51.420 is growing that this is not working, that we don't want to let in that many people anymore. Uh, Randy,

00:28:56.460 I'm told that we have Derek back on the line. He's still having some technical issues. So I believe

00:29:01.420 he's just on the phone, but I did want to bring him into the conversation. Uh, Derek,

00:29:05.420 can you hear me now? Okay. Doesn't sound like we do. Uh, Derek, can you hear me? Let's try one more time.

00:29:25.420 Okay. All right. We're gonna, we're gonna sadly, uh, give up on the idea of getting, uh, Derek to join

00:29:29.900 the show because I just don't think it's working for him today. Um, but I think that's a very symbolic

00:29:36.940 of, of the poor quality infrastructure that we also have in rural Ontario. Derek, both Derek and I

00:29:43.580 live in rural Ontario. Um, um, um, and you know, the, our internet broadband, um, infrastructure is, uh,

00:29:54.940 entirely, uh, substandard in many areas of the province. Uh, but just going back, finish off,

00:30:01.740 you know, you're, you're absolutely correct. Yeah. Um, and Candace, we have had the, the only policy

00:30:08.140 on immigration that we've had is a fire hose, you know, like full, the valves full open, uh, since 1990.

00:30:15.260 And I wouldn't even say during COVID, uh, those numbers still were excessive, um, uh, especially

00:30:23.260 on the foreign workers and foreign students, uh, and also refugees as well. So, uh, and just for

00:30:31.420 the audience to understand, we, the federal government can't even give us a precise or near precise number

00:30:38.860 on how many people are here illegally at the present time, but their best guess is somewhere

00:30:45.820 between two and four million people in our country are here illegally, either under expired, uh, uh,

00:30:54.860 work visas, expired, uh, student visas, um, refugees who have not gone through the tribunal process.

00:31:02.620 So just to put that in perspective, that's, you know, up to 10% of everybody in Canada,

00:31:09.740 maybe here illegally. Unbelievable. And, and, and it's really, it's really spilling out.

00:31:15.340 And I think, like I said, I think that there's going to be a new consensus. I'd like to see more

00:31:19.180 conservative, uh, politicians and governments to take a bolder position on this because it really,

00:31:25.580 it's not working for anyone. So I want to take a step back and ask about the Ontario party. Um,

00:31:30.860 so, you know, we have progressive conservatives, people who aren't from Ontario might not really

00:31:35.020 understand like what that means. Uh, but I would describe them as a centrist, if not possibly a

00:31:40.300 center left government. And yet, you know, Ontario, especially rural parts, it's a pretty conservative

00:31:47.020 place. So why is it that the PC party in Ontario has had to go so far to the center or even a bit

00:31:56.140 into the left? Um, and why isn't there a more kind of mainstream right-wing alternative? I know that

00:32:03.900 there's also a party called the new blue party started by former, um, MPP, uh, Jim Carihalios,

00:32:11.500 uh, the husband of Brent, uh, Belinda Carihalios, who's the, uh, party's first MPP. Um, first of all,

00:32:18.620 why don't you tell us why, why we have two, uh, offshoot right-wing parties and maybe tell us a bit

00:32:23.660 about why the progressive conservatives aren't very conservative. Well, let's start with the,

00:32:28.700 the latter first. So, you know, there's many different aspects, but I will start off first

00:32:34.380 by saying this, the, um, all the established parties, uh, and we've seen this in spades,

00:32:41.180 I would say, Candace is, um, we are witnessing a very, um, overt, uh, abuse of the electoral system

00:32:51.820 for them, for their benefit and to the detriment and, uh, consequence of, of the people. Uh, we see

00:33:00.860 that with this very snap, quick and short election called here in Ontario. Um, we also see it with the,

00:33:10.780 um, Trudeau's use of prorogation of parliament. These don't, both these, um, um, uses of

00:33:20.380 legislative authority and parliamentary authority are, uh, uh, it's a crass attempt to keep the

00:33:27.900 existing politicians in power to the detriment, um, of the people. Um, and I would also say,

00:33:35.660 you know, the same, uh, it would be applicable with this, with this trade war, you know, a junior high

00:33:43.020 diplomat would have been able to resolve this, um, these differences between Canada and the United

00:33:50.860 States, um, in, in just as simple manner as what we're proposing with the Ontario party, um, fix up

00:33:58.380 our immigration policy, fix up our borders, uh, prevent the, uh, the criminal activity from transiting 0.92

00:34:06.860 and, and taking refuge here. And Sam Cooper's done a lot of great work on that as well, but,

00:34:13.740 you know, Ford, Trudeau, Carney, uh, see that, uh, you know, you've heard the term, uh, never let a good

00:34:23.660 crisis go to waste in politics. Um, and that applies even when you have to fabricate a crisis, uh, and

00:34:31.740 the trade war in my view is just as big a, uh, fabrication, um, as, as COVID was, um, it's a crisis

00:34:42.220 of convenience for the political establishment. And I would say, you know, what, what differs,

00:34:50.940 the Ontario party differs from all others in that everybody who's involved in our party have a

00:34:58.860 long track word track record of standing up and saying what is truthful and willing to take the

00:35:08.700 consequences for that. Uh, both Derek and I have, uh, been removed from our respective caucuses. Uh,

00:35:17.180 both Derek and I were, um, the, um, only two elected individuals in Ontario

00:35:27.900 in January of 2021 who formed the end, the lockdown caucus. There was other, uh, politicians who at the

00:35:37.820 provincial and federal level who, um, um, were opposed to, but they refused to be public. They refused to

00:35:47.820 participate in the end, the lockdown caucus. And, and I think that really, uh, puts, defines the

00:35:55.500 difference between the Ontario party and all others, um, that, uh, we say what we mean and we mean what we

00:36:05.100 say and we're prepared to do what's necessary. And, and I would also say, you know, Doug Ford doesn't have

00:36:13.180 to govern to the left. He chooses to govern to the left. Um, you know, there are aspects of the, uh,

00:36:21.740 urbanization levels and whatnot that, uh, do come into play, but, um, you know, at the end of the day,

00:36:30.540 it's a choice that he's decided. It was a choice for him to lie to the people of Ontario about the sex ed

00:36:38.540 education. It was a choice by Doug Ford to lie about the green belt, uh, and now be investigated by the

00:36:48.780 RCMP for, uh, ensuring that his friends and wealthy, uh, donors and supporters would get derived, uh,

00:36:58.860 ill gotten gains and profits from his legislative agenda. So, you know, that's, it's not just about

00:37:06.940 right and left. It's not about just the political spectrum, Candace. This is about integrity and

00:37:13.020 honesty in, in elected representation in government. Well, it's so interesting because I think that the,

00:37:20.700 the, the, the world, at least in North America has shifted since COVID and that I think that

00:37:26.540 history has shown, I mean, you've been vindicated in your positions when you were calling to end the

00:37:30.780 lockdowns, all of your activism on COVID. I think part of the reason that we just saw Donald Trump,

00:37:36.540 when a majority popular opinion, uh, or popular vote election down in the States, basically winning

00:37:43.340 in a landslide, uh, is because people were sick of a lot of the things that happened in the COVID

00:37:47.980 and post COVID world. I think Justin Trudeau's popularity took a similar dive because people,

00:37:53.100 that was sort of when the mask first slipped, uh, and people really started to see that other side of

00:37:58.380 Justin Trudeau. And so I'm, I'm wondering, you know, did Doug Ford was part of that whole,

00:38:03.020 you know, lockdown, um, COVID madness out of control, uh, you know, heavy handed big government

00:38:12.540 approach. Uh, why, why do you think that there hasn't been a similar sort of backlash against

00:38:17.900 him? Is it because the other parties in Ontario are so weak? And I'm specifically talking about the

00:38:22.460 liberals and the NDP, uh, or, or is there something, something else that attributes to

00:38:27.260 Mr. Ford's popularity? Well, we know that he's not popular in Ontario,

00:38:32.380 over 60% of the people in Ontario in the recent polls have said it's, uh, uh, it's time for change.

00:38:41.980 And that greater number is historically, uh, guarantees that the incumbent is removed. Um,

00:38:50.220 but you know, we have to understand the, uh, the context in the circumstances that we're in with the,

00:38:56.620 you know, for many years, we've had a very suffocating level of censorship in this province,

00:39:02.300 uh, in this country, we remain to have a very suffocating, um, uh, public square with their legacy

00:39:10.620 media. Um, no dissenting voices are permitted to be on the legacy media. Um, um, you know, our

00:39:19.260 political environment is, uh, is very much like our media environment. There is the legacy political

00:39:27.180 parties and the legacy media, uh, act one in the same. Um, they do not allow any, any dissenting voices

00:39:35.900 anywhere. Candace, you're aware of that. Uh, and I'm sure all your audiences as well. So it, it is hard to

00:39:42.860 break through, um, that level of, um, suffocating censorship, uh, in our, our country, but we're

00:39:51.980 going to continue to try. And, and I would say one other element that many of people that are listening

00:39:59.500 may not be aware of this. Um, but, uh, you know, from my 15 years in elected office, I would say

00:40:07.420 the establishment political parties want people to stay at home on ballot on voting day. They, uh,

00:40:20.140 lower voter turnout is actually beneficial for the established political parties. Um, the last thing

00:40:27.980 they want is unhappy, disaffected or disenfranchised voters going to the polls. If, uh, and we have

00:40:40.060 in Ontario in the last election, we had the tremendously abysmal number, historic low of 43% of Ontario voters

00:40:50.140 stayed, uh, uh, went to the polls. So 57% stayed at home and on the couch. Uh, and many of them are the

00:40:58.300 unhappy and, uh, and even angry. Um, um, and this plays into the hands of Ford and others that, uh,

00:41:08.380 keep the unhappy people at home, have a quick snap election. Don't allow the other guys to get, uh,

00:41:14.460 a leg up, um, convince those unhappy voters that there's no choice, that there's, there's no solution.

00:41:22.700 Um, and, and, you know, I've often said, uh, uh, when you stay at home on ballot day, um, you ensure

00:41:31.740 that corrupt politicians stay in power. Um, and it's as simple as that. Um, you know, if you're

00:41:39.260 staying at home, you are actually doing what Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau want you to do.

00:41:46.220 Well, I think that's a great message to our audience. If you are in Ontario,

00:41:49.980 even if you don't like the progressive conservatives, you don't have to stay at home.

00:41:52.940 You have other options. You can vote for a real authentic conservative party, a socially conservative

00:41:59.420 party as well that represents your values. And I really appreciate you joining the show today,

00:42:04.540 Randy. Thank you. And good luck on Thursday.

00:42:07.100 It's been a pleasure, Candace, and we'll look forward to chatting again another time. And, uh,

00:42:11.980 and on February 27th, the people in Ontario can take back Ontario. And if they choose to do so,

00:42:20.860 it will be take a big stride towards taking back Canada as well. Thank you very much.

00:42:28.300 All right. Thank you so much, Randy. And indeed Canada needs to change. We cannot continue on

00:42:34.140 this path. We cannot allow woke politicians to continue to push an agenda that is counter to

00:42:40.620 everything about this country and the way it's been built, uh, families and the raising of children,

00:42:46.540 educating them in the correct and proper way, not filling their minds with woke leftist ideology.

00:42:51.900 I don't know another issue that I get more animated about than the woke ideology that they push in our

00:42:57.260 schools. It is so sick and twisted. And I hope that the people of Ontario will send a message 0.94

00:43:02.380 to this government that they need to change, that they cannot continue to push this nonsense on our

00:43:08.460 children. All right, folks. Uh, thanks so much for joining. Sorry about the technical difficulties

00:43:11.980 that we had there trying to get Derek Sloan on. We'll have to have him on another time in the future,

00:43:16.540 but we appreciate you bearing with us. Thank you so much for tuning in and we'll be back again

00:43:20.700 tomorrow with all the news. Thank you and God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - February 25, 2025

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