Jagmeet Singh OFFICIALLY qualifies for multi-million dollar pension
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Candice Malan talks about Jagmeet Singh getting a multi-million dollar pension, the Liberal leadership debate, and the French language debate, which was a complete disaster for Mark Carney. She also asks if we can finally have a choice and a say in who represents us and who will be Prime Minister.
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Hi, welcome to the Candice Malcolm show. I am your host Candice Malcolm. We have a fantastic
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show for you today. We're going to talk about the Ontario election. We're going to go and
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do a bit of a deep dive into the parties and the topics and the important issues facing
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people in this province. And we're going to talk about the liberal leadership debate last
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night, the French language debate, which let me just say it was a disaster for Mark Carney.
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Not that you would know if you watch the legacy media who are completely covering for him,
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but we will go through and break that down. But first I think congratulations is in order
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for NDP leader Jagmeet Singh. Yes. At midnight last night at midnight, he officially qualified
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for a multi-million dollar pension, a gold plated taxpayer funded multi-billion dollar pension.
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Well, congratulations, Jagmeet Singh, man, you earned it. All you had to do was sell out
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your country, sell out your values, sell out your constituents, sell out the country. And
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in return, you got your multi-million dollar pension. I hope it is worth it. So maybe does
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this mean that we can finally have an election in this country? Can we finally have a choice
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and a say in who represents us and who will be our prime minister? Let's hope so. So let's
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just walk you through it. So Jagmeet Singh was first elected six years ago today. And that
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means six years is what the time required to qualify for a federal pension as a member of
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parliament. The Canadian Taxpayers Federation estimates that if Jagmeet Singh took his pension
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early, took it at age 55 and lives to age 90, taxpayers will be on the hook for approximately
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2.3 million dollars to Jagmeet Singh. In order to get a pension, you must serve for six years.
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And if you serve before 2016, you get your full pension at 55. Jagmeet Singh came in after that.
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So he gets his full pension at 65, but he can have a reduced pension if he would like starting
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at age 55. And their pension equates to about 23% of their salary. Must be nice. Must be nice.
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I am a entrepreneur and a business owner. And if you are a business owner or if you work in the
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private sector, most likely you don't have any kind of pension. Certainly not a defined benefit
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pension like these members of parliament get. And really, Jagmeet Singh should have pulled the plug
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on this government 18 months ago or at least a year ago if he had a conscious conscience. If he had,
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if he was doing what was best for the people in his riding, the people in this country,
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Jagmeet Singh would have forced an election before Justin Trudeau could continue to do the damage
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that he did. But many speculate that the real reason that Jagmeet Singh continued to prop up
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this liberal government time and time and time again, upwards of 200 times, the reason he did it
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was for his own paycheck, for his own self-interest, because he wanted that pension. Well, presumably now
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that the pension is here, Jagmeet, you can finally do the right thing. Don't worry. Taxpayers are going to
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take care of you. But please, please let us have an election. And speaking of elections,
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the Liberals held their first leadership debate last night. Remember that they worked in extra
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overdrive to make sure that Ruby Dalla was disqualified, kicking her out over the weekend.
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She didn't even know about it. She found out live on a CBC interview. CBC got the news from the
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Liberal Party before the candidate herself even learned. Completely ridiculous. So they wanted to do
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everything they could to keep her off the stage. And now we know why. Because Mark Carney, who is
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completely untested, right? He's never been elected. He's never even tried to be elected. He's
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never been part of an election before. We saw why. He was a complete disaster on the stage last night.
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He was incoherent. He could barely string his sentences together. He was reading off a cue card.
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He's just not very good at this. He's not very good at this. And the media don't want you to know about
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that, which is why you wouldn't really know how bad it was for him if you were just watching
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the traditional press. So we've got a couple of clips for you. Really,
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Chrystia Freeland was the one who was kind of dominating the event last night. She speaks fluent
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French. And look, I am personally not a French speaker. And I don't necessarily think it's
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important that everyone speaks French. I don't even care if the Conservative leader speaks French,
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because most of the people who vote for the Conservative Party are not in the French-speaking
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part of the country. But for the Liberals, it's a different standard, because the Liberal Party
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is the party that wins in Quebec. They are the party that supposedly represents the sort of
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bilingualism of this country, French and English. And by their own standards, you should speak French.
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So the fact that Mark Kearney couldn't was a little bit of an embarrassment, given the fact that this guy
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has been mentioned in circles of potentially being a prime minister for like a decade.
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Justin Trudeau has been trying to recruit him into his cabinet for years and years and years. He's
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been advising Justin Trudeau. He knew that this time was coming. It's actually pretty surprising
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and pretty embarrassing how bad his French really was. We're going to get to that in a second. We'll
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start with Chrystia Freeland, who was doing her whole shtick. So let me just say, if you watch this
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debate, and you believe everything you said, you would think that we were like on the verge of World
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War III, Canada versus the United States, because this issue of the Trump tariffs dominated the event.
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Every single thing went back to it. The liberals are really sort of beating the drum of fear and
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trying to create fear and outrage over the Trump comments. And it was really clear. So here is a
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clip of Chrystia Freeland saying that Trump represents the greatest threat to Canada since the Second World
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War. Trump represents the greatest threat to Canada since World War II.
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He is threatening us with an economic war. And that's nothing new. The last time that he was
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president, he threatened us too. And at the end of the day, I succeeded in protecting our economy.
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But this time, Trump's threats are worse. He wants to turn Canada into the 51st state. And it's no joke.
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So the entire sort of manufactured crisis that Donald Trump is coming to invade us and that he
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wants our minerals and that he's literal and he's super serious that he's going to invade Canada.
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That was the theme of the night. Mark Carney echoing this, saying that this is the biggest crisis of
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our lifetime, that this is bigger than COVID. This is bigger than the 2008 financial crisis.
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This is the biggest crisis ever in Canada. And Mark Carney supposedly is the only one that can
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save us from this. Let's play that clip. At this time, Canada is facing the worst crisis of our
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lifetime. And to get through it, we have to make big changes. I can be useful there. I know how to
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get through crises. Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your
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mouth. Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light. Rich, creamy, chocolatey
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aero truffle. Feel the aero bubbles melt. It's mind bubbling.
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So you could see him stumbling and awkwardly pushing through his words there, reading off a cue card.
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Not very smooth. There was a couple of huge gaffes that Mark Carney had last night. I think the big one
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of the night when he was talking about foreign policy and he was talking about Hamas. And basically
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he said that he agrees with Hamas. I think he meant to say that he agrees on Hamas. And even at the time
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when he was saying it, Chrystia Freeland kind of jumped in to save him. And she hurriedly injected
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against, against, because he accidentally said we agree with Hamas. Again, just showing how he doesn't
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really speak French properly. Another one that came up was they were talking about the CBC and how
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Pierre Polyev rightfully wants to defund the CBC. And Mark Carney was rambling incoherently and said
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something about how Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec. Apparently, according to Mark Carney,
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Pierre Polyev wants to abolish Quebec. Again, I don't think he meant to say that, but that's what he said.
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And it just shows how out of depth he is. I spoke to a Quebec commentator,
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a fellow named Jean-Philippe Fournier, who was a former advisor, a chief of staff to the finance
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minister in Quebec. And he told me, this is what he said to me. He said, Carney was surprisingly bad
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at French, oftentimes seemed visibly confused or unable to read basic questions, right? So he
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basically just was a disgrace is what Jean-Philippe told me. He said he might not survive a real debate
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against Pierre Polyev. And this was actually echoed on the CBC of all places. Stephen Taylor,
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a conservative activist on X, reports that French CBC predicts that Mark Carney would get destroyed
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in a French debate against Mark Carney. Imagine how conflicted those Laurentian elites will feel
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when their golden boy, Mark Carney, embarrasses himself, again, not being able to speak French
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properly in a debate against a conservative who happens to speak fluent French. That's not going
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to go over very well. So things aren't going well for the Liberals federally. The English debate is
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actually tonight. And you can join, I will be, we're going to do a live event alongside the debate,
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myself and Kian Bexty. So we will be with you live tonight to walk you through the English debate.
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We're really looking forward to that. And there's another election happening in this country right
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now. It's going to be on Thursday is the election day in Ontario. Will Doug Ford get his third
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consecutive majority government? It looks like it. Recent polls show the PCs are up at 45%
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with the Liberals trailing at 27 and the NDP down at 19, which could equate to the PCs having as much as
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91 seats in Queens Park, again, cruising towards their third majority. But you know what? The
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progressive conservatives aren't the only choice on the political right. You could argue that the
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press preserves aren't on the political right anymore, that they are a centrist or in many ways,
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a center left party, which is not what we wanted, not what we expected, but that is what has come to
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pass. So today I'm very delighted to be joined by people who represent that other conservative
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alternative and option in this election, the Ontario party. So I'm joined by Ontario party leader,
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Derek Sloan. He's been the leader since 2021. You might remember Derek Sloan because he used to be
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a conservative member of parliament and he ran in the leadership race. The one to replace Andrew Scheer
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ended up losing to Erin O'Toole, getting expelled from the caucus in 2021. So he joins the program
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alongside Randy Hilliard. Randy Hilliard is a former member of the provincial parliament
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from 2007 to 2022, and he now holds a senior leadership role in the Ontario party. So Randy,
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Derek, great to have you on the program. Thanks for joining us.
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Great. Well, I see you there, Randy. I don't know where Derek is,
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but hopefully he'll jump on and join us in a moment.
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So the election, sorry, go ahead. I said, I think we may be having some difficulty
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with his technology and connection, but we'll see if we get him back on shortly.
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Okay. Excellent. Well, we'll keep trying behind the scenes there. But first, Randy,
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why don't you just tell us a little bit about the Ontario party? What is it? What do they stand for?
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And how did you get involved? Well, the Ontario party, of course,
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is just a provincial party. We don't engage in national politics, but I think it's important for
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people to understand Ontario is the largest pro party, largest province in our confederation.
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And so goes Ontario goes confederation in many aspects. We are 40% of the population, 40% of the
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GDP. So the federal government can't do much without Ontario's agreement. And we have seen Doug Ford
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and Justin Trudeau and now Mark Carney, all singing from the same song sheet. You wouldn't know that
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they're from different parties, actually. They're so close together. But the Ontario party represents
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those people who want to see smaller, less government, the people who would rather have a
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doge in Ontario rather than a Ford in Ontario, if I might say, and who stand to represent and promote
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and protect faith, freedom, and our families, which have been very significantly abused and taken
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an advantage of by all of the established political parties. So we're offering a very distinct choice.
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And of course, I'm glad to join with Derek Sloan as leader of the party. Derek and I have similar
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backgrounds. We're both from elected office in conservative parties. And we were also both removed
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from our caucuses. We both attempted to run for the leadership of our respective parties. But we're both
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outspoken and believe elected representatives should have a voice and not just a muzzle. And that's with
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all established parties. The muzzle comes first in the obedience rather than the representation.
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Interesting. Okay. Well, why don't you tell us, so one of the things that sort of for me as a mother of
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little kids and looking at some of the things that the Ontario government has done, you know,
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I had some high hopes for Doug Ford because he came in opposing Kathleen Wynne's really controversial
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sex education program that she implemented. And he seemed like he was going to be a bit more like
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a social conservative. He even said that he was pro-life at one point. And I think we've been sorely
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disappointed, to put it mildly, based on so much of the legislation that they've put forward. I mean,
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everything from imposing racial equity in classes. Remember that Bill 67? I had Barbara Kay on my show
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back in 2022, and she adamantly warned against it and how it was basically just instilling this idea
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that Canada is a bunch of white supremacists and that we need some kind of a radical equity program in
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our schools. There's also been really controversial things when it comes to gender ideology, the radical
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gender ideology that is putting that lens into our classrooms. True North Sue Ann Levy has written
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many pieces on how woke Ontario schools have become. And it's really a concern to parents. So why don't you
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tell us a little bit about the education in specific, like what would an Ontario party advocate differently?
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Well, you're absolutely correct. And like you, we had high hopes. I had high hopes. I was a member of the
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Conservative Caucus in Ontario when Ford won his majority in 2018. And of course, everything that you
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just said, Candice, is absolutely true. Ford did campaign to remove the sex ed curriculum from our
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schools and gave every indication that he was going to govern as an actual Conservative. But as we've seen
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with so many other Conservative leaders, you campaign on the right and you govern to the left. And Ford
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has been no different than so many others. And, you know, as I said at the outset, Ford and Trudeau and now
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Carney, there is no light between these three on any subject. And, you know, we're proposing that
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parents actually take back education from these bureaucrats and from these left-wing ideologues who are
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destroying, confusing, distorting our youngsters' minds with this rainbow agenda that they have,
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with this critical race theory. And one of our outstanding solutions to this is to breed
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that competition into the education system and choice by establishing vouchers for parents to,
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so they can select which school they might want and allow private educational institutions to flourish in
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Ontario and allow parents that choice so that their children can actually be educated rather than indoctrinated.
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Great. Well, it looks like we're finally joined by Derek Sloan on the line. Derek, can you hear me?
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Derek, well, I can see him, but I don't know that he can hear us. So, okay, we'll stick with you, Randy.
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Can you tell us, like, what are... I can. Thank you, Katie, just for having us today.
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Oh, great. Okay. Well, you can, we can hear you, Derek, but we can, we can't really see you.
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You're, I think your screen might be frozen there.
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Okay. It looks like Derek's still having some...
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Okay. Yeah, we can hear you, Derek. So, thanks for joining the show.
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Okay. Yeah. So, Randy was just telling us, Derek, about the education platform for the Ontario Party.
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Why don't, why don't you tell us a little bit more of your motivation with the Ontario Party,
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what your, what brought you to the party and what it is that you're running on in this election?
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Yeah, let's give it a go. Can you, can you tell us about your motivation?
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Yes, of course. So, like many parents, uh, I, I heard a pretty, but we, we heard the rhetoric of Doug Ford.
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Yes, I can. Yes, I can. Yes, I'm talking. Uh, can you guys hear me at all?
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Okay. We're going to move on here, folks. We're gonna, we're gonna try to get Derek back online.
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Well, that's, that's unfortunate that we couldn't, uh, we couldn't connect properly with Derek there.
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Um, so Randy, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go back to you. Uh, one of the, one of the things that
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really piqued my interest now, we did a Twitter spaces or an X spaces last week. And one of the
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things that you said was that your, your party, Ontario party is calling for a complete moratorium
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on immigration. Um, I didn't know that the provincial government could do that. I know that Quebec has
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some leeway when it comes to their provinces immigration program. Uh, why don't you walk us through
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what, first of all, why you want a moratorium on immigration and how, uh, that would come about
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provincially? Well, let's start off with, uh, rampant and uncontrolled immigration numbers are
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impacting every aspect of our society, of our communities, um, of our standard of living and
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well-being, uh, Candace. You know, this, uh, increasing number of new immigrants every year, uh,
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foreign students, temporary foreign workers, refugees are putting great demands on our housing
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stock. We, we have a increasing demand with new immigration, but a pretty static and stable, uh,
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supply of housing. So this is putting upwards pressures significantly on the cost of housing,
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um, not just for purchases, but also for rental. Um, and we're seeing
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that in spades with the ramp inconceivable number of homeless in campus now that have sprung up across
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Ontario, but it's also putting, uh, uh, two pressures on the, um, standard of living with respect to
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employment. Uh, the increasing supply of labor is keeping it depressing wages. It's also, uh, with the
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government's use of wage subsidies on new immigrants is putting, um, um, uh, new Canadians in an advantageous
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position for jobs. They're getting, uh, uh, better access to jobs because the government is subsidizing
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their employment. Um, so we're seeing an increasing unemployment rate as well as depressed wages with
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the immigration policy. And it's also has other impacts, uh, on things like healthcare. You know,
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when I left elected office just two and a half years ago, Candace, the, there was, uh, 1 million
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Ontario people without a family doctor in Ontario, that number has skyrocketed now to two and a half
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million, two and a half million people in Ontario can't find a family doctor. And of course, if you're
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bringing in, uh, millions of people into the country every year, it shouldn't surprise anyone that we're
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bringing in greater numbers and then we're able to, uh, recruit and train doctors, uh, bringing in, uh, our
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our ability to, uh, improve our housing stocks. Um, and it's also having a huge and profound impact on
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the, um, the educational and institutional scams with immigration. We see this with the, uh, scams on
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the, uh, uh, private education, uh, where students, foreign students are coming here apparently to go to get
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an education, but, um, but these schools, they never even attend school. Um, and we have the truck
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driving scams, uh, often involved with, uh, or tied to immigration. And of course we also have this
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explosion in, um, the, the criminal activity that's tied with this, um, immigration policy. And, and of
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course, Donald Trump has spoken widely about that. Um, many of your audience may not be aware that
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major Canadian bank headquartered here in, um, in Ontario was just recently convicted in the United
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States and find $3 billion for facilitating and being involved in the money laundering of the drug
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cartels and the criminal activity, uh, from immigration. That's the TD bank. The, uh, US states
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have, uh, fined $3 billion and convicted them of this, uh, criminal money laundering and facilitating,
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the criminal cartels. But our own attorney generals in the crown here in Canada have not touched, uh, that
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subject at all. So, uh, we're now on the precipice of a very dangerous trade war. Um, um, and much of
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it is centered around this immigration policy. So that's the background. The, the, the solution though
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is pretty obvious. Uh, immigration is a shared concern. It's a shared jurisdiction in our constitution
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between the provinces and the federal government. And, uh, we're just saying what is obvious,
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we are going to take back our role in immigration. The federal government cannot, um, determine
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unilaterally how many immigrants come to Ontario. And we're saying we're going to have zero until we
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get our unemployment levels down to a very, um, uh, modest, uh, uh, position where until our housing
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stocks and affordability is improved, until our education and our health care is improved, there'll
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be zero new immigrants coming into Ontario. And in addition, we've also proposed that we would create
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a new enforcement branch called the immigration and criminal enforcement, um, uh, branch that would be
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tasked with investigating, um, the criminal activities engaged with these, uh, illegal immigration,
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immigration and also the ability to, um, apprehend, um, uh, people who are here illegally and deport
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them. So we will take ownership of our jurisdiction, which is included in the constitution.
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So what would you do then? I mean, it's interesting how the positions have changed,
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right? We had nine years of open borders with Justin Trudeau. And yet in the debate last night,
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we heard Mark Carney pledging that he would also cap immigration, but they wouldn't,
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they wouldn't cap it the way you would, they wouldn't have a full moratorium. So what would you do,
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Randy, if there was a liberal government in power that wanted to bring in millions of newcomers each
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year, how, how would you stop them? And how would you say we are not going to take any new ones in
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Ontario? So historically what's happened, Candace, and this is, uh, what's happened with immigration is
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the same as what we've allowed happen with our healthcare and education. The provinces have agreed,
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uh, they've engaged in a memorandum of understanding that contractual arrangement with the federal
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government to abdicate their jurisdiction in these positions in exchange for transfer funds.
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The federal government can't do it unless there's agreement with the province. So, uh, the federal
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government has agreed in the provinces have agreed to accept, uh, social, uh, substantial transfers
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of, uh, taxpayers money for things like English as a second language, uh, subsidized housing, uh,
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additional educational and social, uh, programs for immigrants in exchange for, um, uh, allowing the
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feds to make all the decisions. We're, we're just simply going to say, we're not going to take
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that money and, uh, and we're not going to allow immigrants. Uh, um, and unlike, uh, Trudeau and
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Carney who are saying that they're going to reduce the rampant and uncontrolled immigration, we're
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saying, no, we'll, until things are improved and fixed, there'll be zero new immigrants into our province.
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Well, it's interesting because if you look at Canada's historic data with immigration, yes, we've
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always had to have been a country that have welcomed immigrants and that's part of our DNA in our
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country. Uh, but there's always been peaks and valleys, right? So you had periods where, you know,
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four or five years where lots and lots of newcomers came and then basically we would close our doors
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and say, okay, we're going to take a few years, let everybody intermix and integrate, and maybe we'll
00:28:25.260
take some more later. And it basically wasn't until the 1990s that we had a wall of just constantly
00:28:32.220
increasing immigration under both conservatives and liberals. Uh, we did have a quick reprieve during
00:28:37.740
COVID, um, where not a lot of people were coming just because of COVID. Uh, but now it's back, uh,
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to levels absolutely unprecedented in, in Canadian history. And I think that that, uh, that consensus
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is growing that this is not working, that we don't want to let in that many people anymore. Uh, Randy,
00:28:56.460
I'm told that we have Derek back on the line. He's still having some technical issues. So I believe
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he's just on the phone, but I did want to bring him into the conversation. Uh, Derek,
00:29:05.420
can you hear me now? Okay. Doesn't sound like we do. Uh, Derek, can you hear me? Let's try one more time.
00:29:25.420
Okay. All right. We're gonna, we're gonna sadly, uh, give up on the idea of getting, uh, Derek to join
00:29:29.900
the show because I just don't think it's working for him today. Um, but I think that's a very symbolic
00:29:36.940
of, of the poor quality infrastructure that we also have in rural Ontario. Derek, both Derek and I
00:29:43.580
live in rural Ontario. Um, um, um, and you know, the, our internet broadband, um, infrastructure is, uh,
00:29:54.940
entirely, uh, substandard in many areas of the province. Uh, but just going back, finish off,
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you know, you're, you're absolutely correct. Yeah. Um, and Candace, we have had the, the only policy
00:30:08.140
on immigration that we've had is a fire hose, you know, like full, the valves full open, uh, since 1990.
00:30:15.260
And I wouldn't even say during COVID, uh, those numbers still were excessive, um, uh, especially
00:30:23.260
on the foreign workers and foreign students, uh, and also refugees as well. So, uh, and just for
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the audience to understand, we, the federal government can't even give us a precise or near precise number
00:30:38.860
on how many people are here illegally at the present time, but their best guess is somewhere
00:30:45.820
between two and four million people in our country are here illegally, either under expired, uh, uh,
00:30:54.860
work visas, expired, uh, student visas, um, refugees who have not gone through the tribunal process.
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So just to put that in perspective, that's, you know, up to 10% of everybody in Canada,
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maybe here illegally. Unbelievable. And, and, and it's really, it's really spilling out.
00:31:15.340
And I think, like I said, I think that there's going to be a new consensus. I'd like to see more
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conservative, uh, politicians and governments to take a bolder position on this because it really,
00:31:25.580
it's not working for anyone. So I want to take a step back and ask about the Ontario party. Um,
00:31:30.860
so, you know, we have progressive conservatives, people who aren't from Ontario might not really
00:31:35.020
understand like what that means. Uh, but I would describe them as a centrist, if not possibly a
00:31:40.300
center left government. And yet, you know, Ontario, especially rural parts, it's a pretty conservative
00:31:47.020
place. So why is it that the PC party in Ontario has had to go so far to the center or even a bit
00:31:56.140
into the left? Um, and why isn't there a more kind of mainstream right-wing alternative? I know that
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there's also a party called the new blue party started by former, um, MPP, uh, Jim Carihalios,
00:32:11.500
uh, the husband of Brent, uh, Belinda Carihalios, who's the, uh, party's first MPP. Um, first of all,
00:32:18.620
why don't you tell us why, why we have two, uh, offshoot right-wing parties and maybe tell us a bit
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about why the progressive conservatives aren't very conservative. Well, let's start with the,
00:32:28.700
the latter first. So, you know, there's many different aspects, but I will start off first
00:32:34.380
by saying this, the, um, all the established parties, uh, and we've seen this in spades,
00:32:41.180
I would say, Candace is, um, we are witnessing a very, um, overt, uh, abuse of the electoral system
00:32:51.820
for them, for their benefit and to the detriment and, uh, consequence of, of the people. Uh, we see
00:33:00.860
that with this very snap, quick and short election called here in Ontario. Um, we also see it with the,
00:33:10.780
um, Trudeau's use of prorogation of parliament. These don't, both these, um, um, uses of
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legislative authority and parliamentary authority are, uh, uh, it's a crass attempt to keep the
00:33:27.900
existing politicians in power to the detriment, um, of the people. Um, and I would also say,
00:33:35.660
you know, the same, uh, it would be applicable with this, with this trade war, you know, a junior high
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diplomat would have been able to resolve this, um, these differences between Canada and the United
00:33:50.860
States, um, in, in just as simple manner as what we're proposing with the Ontario party, um, fix up
00:33:58.380
our immigration policy, fix up our borders, uh, prevent the, uh, the criminal activity from transiting
00:34:06.860
and, and taking refuge here. And Sam Cooper's done a lot of great work on that as well, but,
00:34:13.740
you know, Ford, Trudeau, Carney, uh, see that, uh, you know, you've heard the term, uh, never let a good
00:34:23.660
crisis go to waste in politics. Um, and that applies even when you have to fabricate a crisis, uh, and
00:34:31.740
the trade war in my view is just as big a, uh, fabrication, um, as, as COVID was, um, it's a crisis
00:34:42.220
of convenience for the political establishment. And I would say, you know, what, what differs,
00:34:50.940
the Ontario party differs from all others in that everybody who's involved in our party have a
00:34:58.860
long track word track record of standing up and saying what is truthful and willing to take the
00:35:08.700
consequences for that. Uh, both Derek and I have, uh, been removed from our respective caucuses. Uh,
00:35:17.180
both Derek and I were, um, the, um, only two elected individuals in Ontario
00:35:27.900
in January of 2021 who formed the end, the lockdown caucus. There was other, uh, politicians who at the
00:35:37.820
provincial and federal level who, um, um, were opposed to, but they refused to be public. They refused to
00:35:47.820
participate in the end, the lockdown caucus. And, and I think that really, uh, puts, defines the
00:35:55.500
difference between the Ontario party and all others, um, that, uh, we say what we mean and we mean what we
00:36:05.100
say and we're prepared to do what's necessary. And, and I would also say, you know, Doug Ford doesn't have
00:36:13.180
to govern to the left. He chooses to govern to the left. Um, you know, there are aspects of the, uh,
00:36:21.740
urbanization levels and whatnot that, uh, do come into play, but, um, you know, at the end of the day,
00:36:30.540
it's a choice that he's decided. It was a choice for him to lie to the people of Ontario about the sex ed
00:36:38.540
education. It was a choice by Doug Ford to lie about the green belt, uh, and now be investigated by the
00:36:48.780
RCMP for, uh, ensuring that his friends and wealthy, uh, donors and supporters would get derived, uh,
00:36:58.860
ill gotten gains and profits from his legislative agenda. So, you know, that's, it's not just about
00:37:06.940
right and left. It's not about just the political spectrum, Candace. This is about integrity and
00:37:13.020
honesty in, in elected representation in government. Well, it's so interesting because I think that the,
00:37:20.700
the, the, the world, at least in North America has shifted since COVID and that I think that
00:37:26.540
history has shown, I mean, you've been vindicated in your positions when you were calling to end the
00:37:30.780
lockdowns, all of your activism on COVID. I think part of the reason that we just saw Donald Trump,
00:37:36.540
when a majority popular opinion, uh, or popular vote election down in the States, basically winning
00:37:43.340
in a landslide, uh, is because people were sick of a lot of the things that happened in the COVID
00:37:47.980
and post COVID world. I think Justin Trudeau's popularity took a similar dive because people,
00:37:53.100
that was sort of when the mask first slipped, uh, and people really started to see that other side of
00:37:58.380
Justin Trudeau. And so I'm, I'm wondering, you know, did Doug Ford was part of that whole,
00:38:03.020
you know, lockdown, um, COVID madness out of control, uh, you know, heavy handed big government
00:38:12.540
approach. Uh, why, why do you think that there hasn't been a similar sort of backlash against
00:38:17.900
him? Is it because the other parties in Ontario are so weak? And I'm specifically talking about the
00:38:22.460
liberals and the NDP, uh, or, or is there something, something else that attributes to
00:38:27.260
Mr. Ford's popularity? Well, we know that he's not popular in Ontario,
00:38:32.380
over 60% of the people in Ontario in the recent polls have said it's, uh, uh, it's time for change.
00:38:41.980
And that greater number is historically, uh, guarantees that the incumbent is removed. Um,
00:38:50.220
but you know, we have to understand the, uh, the context in the circumstances that we're in with the,
00:38:56.620
you know, for many years, we've had a very suffocating level of censorship in this province,
00:39:02.300
uh, in this country, we remain to have a very suffocating, um, uh, public square with their legacy
00:39:10.620
media. Um, no dissenting voices are permitted to be on the legacy media. Um, um, you know, our
00:39:19.260
political environment is, uh, is very much like our media environment. There is the legacy political
00:39:27.180
parties and the legacy media, uh, act one in the same. Um, they do not allow any, any dissenting voices
00:39:35.900
anywhere. Candace, you're aware of that. Uh, and I'm sure all your audiences as well. So it, it is hard to
00:39:42.860
break through, um, that level of, um, suffocating censorship, uh, in our, our country, but we're
00:39:51.980
going to continue to try. And, and I would say one other element that many of people that are listening
00:39:59.500
may not be aware of this. Um, but, uh, you know, from my 15 years in elected office, I would say
00:40:07.420
the establishment political parties want people to stay at home on ballot on voting day. They, uh,
00:40:20.140
lower voter turnout is actually beneficial for the established political parties. Um, the last thing
00:40:27.980
they want is unhappy, disaffected or disenfranchised voters going to the polls. If, uh, and we have
00:40:40.060
in Ontario in the last election, we had the tremendously abysmal number, historic low of 43% of Ontario voters
00:40:50.140
stayed, uh, uh, went to the polls. So 57% stayed at home and on the couch. Uh, and many of them are the
00:40:58.300
unhappy and, uh, and even angry. Um, um, and this plays into the hands of Ford and others that, uh,
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keep the unhappy people at home, have a quick snap election. Don't allow the other guys to get, uh,
00:41:14.460
a leg up, um, convince those unhappy voters that there's no choice, that there's, there's no solution.
00:41:22.700
Um, and, and, you know, I've often said, uh, uh, when you stay at home on ballot day, um, you ensure
00:41:31.740
that corrupt politicians stay in power. Um, and it's as simple as that. Um, you know, if you're
00:41:39.260
staying at home, you are actually doing what Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau want you to do.
00:41:46.220
Well, I think that's a great message to our audience. If you are in Ontario,
00:41:49.980
even if you don't like the progressive conservatives, you don't have to stay at home.
00:41:52.940
You have other options. You can vote for a real authentic conservative party, a socially conservative
00:41:59.420
party as well that represents your values. And I really appreciate you joining the show today,
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It's been a pleasure, Candace, and we'll look forward to chatting again another time. And, uh,
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and on February 27th, the people in Ontario can take back Ontario. And if they choose to do so,
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it will be take a big stride towards taking back Canada as well. Thank you very much.
00:42:28.300
All right. Thank you so much, Randy. And indeed Canada needs to change. We cannot continue on
00:42:34.140
this path. We cannot allow woke politicians to continue to push an agenda that is counter to
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everything about this country and the way it's been built, uh, families and the raising of children,
00:42:46.540
educating them in the correct and proper way, not filling their minds with woke leftist ideology.
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I don't know another issue that I get more animated about than the woke ideology that they push in our
00:42:57.260
schools. It is so sick and twisted. And I hope that the people of Ontario will send a message
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to this government that they need to change, that they cannot continue to push this nonsense on our
00:43:08.460
children. All right, folks. Uh, thanks so much for joining. Sorry about the technical difficulties
00:43:11.980
that we had there trying to get Derek Sloan on. We'll have to have him on another time in the future,
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but we appreciate you bearing with us. Thank you so much for tuning in and we'll be back again
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tomorrow with all the news. Thank you and God bless.