The Candice Malcolm Show - Legacy media pushes fake news claiming Trudeau was a victim of “racist slurs”

00:00:00.000 So, the Liberal Party invents a news story that Justin Trudeau was somehow the victim

00:00:17.120 of racial slurs while trying to attend an event in Surrey, British Columbia.

00:00:21.560 And the entire legacy media ran with the story before even bothering to verify it.

00:00:26.820 The only problem for them is that the story was never true.

00:00:30.300 It's Fake News Friday.

00:00:31.100 Welcome to a special live edition of The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:34.900 I'm your host, Candice Malcolm.

00:00:36.580 And thank you so much for tuning in.

00:00:38.660 It's great to be with you.

00:00:39.480 We had so much fun doing the live broadcast last week that we decided to do it again this

00:00:44.500 week.

00:00:44.720 And I am joined, as per usual, by my producer, Turner producer and journalist, Harrison Faulkner.

00:00:50.440 Harrison, welcome to the show.

00:00:52.120 Thank you for joining us.

00:00:53.380 Thank you for having me, Candice.

00:00:54.500 Always a pleasure to be on the show.

00:00:57.620 So, this is one of those stories.

00:00:59.620 We talk about this a lot on Fake News Friday, that there's like fake news buried into fake

00:01:03.880 news buried into fake news because there's so many interesting and delicious elements

00:01:07.860 to this story.

00:01:08.680 But this was the sort of main headline of the week through the legacy media, which was this

00:01:14.140 idea that Justin Trudeau had been the victim of racist slurs or that he had to cancel a fundraising

00:01:19.840 event.

00:01:20.160 So, there's this $1,000 a plate fundraising event planned in Surrey, British Columbia on

00:01:24.700 Tuesday afternoon.

00:01:26.320 And before the event was even started, basically, the liberals claimed that Trudeau couldn't

00:01:32.380 go.

00:01:32.700 It was unsafe for him.

00:01:33.840 And they claimed that it was because a crowd of protesters were making racist slurs.

00:01:38.820 So, there were racial slurs being hurled at the attendees and at the fundraisers.

00:01:44.820 And Trudeau, who just got back from being in a war zone in Ukraine, well, he was told

00:01:51.580 it was too unsafe for him to attend this in-person event.

00:01:54.880 So, he would attend by Zoom instead.

00:01:56.920 You can see the headline there from the Canadian press.

00:01:59.120 It says, Trudeau cancels appearance at an event in BC after protesters hurl racial slurs.

00:02:04.640 And, of course, you can see it's the Canadian press, which is a newswire service in Canada.

00:02:09.160 So, when something's written by the Canadian press, you're going to see it all over the

00:02:12.860 news, Harrison.

00:02:13.420 You're going to see it in pretty much every major newspaper in the country.

00:02:17.040 You're going to see it on CTV, on Global.

00:02:19.620 Basically, they all subscribe to the Canadian press and they all run the exact same nonsense.

00:02:25.640 There's so many interesting, again, levels to this story because the entire thing wasn't

00:02:30.760 verified.

00:02:31.640 It wasn't a fact.

00:02:32.620 I saw that you had tweeted, Harrison, something along the lines of, you know, Canadian press

00:02:36.380 invents a story.

00:02:37.200 It's even worse than that because the Liberals invented it.

00:02:39.320 The Liberals made a claim.

00:02:41.060 And then the media ran with it without bothering to verify it.

00:02:44.200 Like, what do you mean the racial slurs?

00:02:46.200 Who was saying them?

00:02:48.180 What were the racial slurs?

00:02:49.700 And I know you poured through, I think it was hours of video footage because there's lots

00:02:54.660 of cell phone footage of this protest to verify exactly what was said and what these supposed

00:03:00.980 racial slurs were, Harrison.

00:03:03.260 So why don't you tell us a little bit about that?

00:03:05.700 So the thing it was, is that immediately as the story started to evolve and started to

00:03:11.740 come out, the line from the legacy media, of course, the Canadian press is a wire service.

00:03:16.040 They put out the fact that there were racial slurs being thrown and hurled at attendees and

00:03:22.900 that Trudeau, they kind of made Trudeau out to be the victim at the beginning of it as

00:03:26.560 well.

00:03:27.580 But of course, there was video evidence of all of this.

00:03:30.240 There were journalists that were covering the protests.

00:03:32.540 There were citizen journalists that were there, kind of half participating and half covering

00:03:37.060 and documenting what was going on.

00:03:39.460 And so, of course, when the reports came out, everyone started looking for video footage.

00:03:44.780 And I'm sure the Liberal Party staffers that were tasked with coming up with this line

00:03:49.580 were also looking at that footage, trying to find the video evidence that these anti-Trudeau

00:03:55.020 protesters were being racist.

00:03:56.440 Because, of course, Candace, we have seen these videos emerge from other protests and

00:04:01.880 we see how the media responds when accusations of racism get leveled at sort of anti-Trudeau

00:04:09.560 protesters, anti-Jagmeet Singh protests.

00:04:12.080 And whenever there's video footage, every Canadian basically has to see it because it gets put out

00:04:16.560 on social media to show people just how bad these anti-Trudeau protesters are.

00:04:20.940 But there was no video footage, Candace.

00:04:23.100 There's no evidence of racial slurs being hurled, as they say, at attendees or at Liberal Party

00:04:31.340 members.

00:04:32.900 And that was sort of that kind of became the story throughout the week, right, Candace? 0.95

00:04:36.480 It was first, here are these horrible anti-Trudeau protesters once again being racist.

00:04:42.300 Again, where have we seen the line of anti-Trudeau protesters being racist? 0.60

00:04:45.760 It seems to be their playbook now.

00:04:48.020 So that was what that was the original story.

00:04:49.920 Then slowly, journal outlets started to backtrack and started to change their story because there

00:04:56.280 were there was no evidence to back any of it up.

00:04:58.820 So CDC, the day after, basically totally rewrote the story, rewrote their headline, took out

00:05:04.980 the took out the line about them being racist and made it made it an allegation.

00:05:09.260 And John Kaye over at Quillette, he tweeted this and basically drew the arrows telling you

00:05:15.840 how the CVC changed their story.

00:05:18.260 So it went from Trudeau has to cancel the event because protesters were hurling racial slurs

00:05:23.860 to Trudeau cancels appearance at Surrey fundraiser over protest related safety concerns.

00:05:29.640 And then, of course, the rest of the story gets changed to try and cover their tracks.

00:05:33.160 The media goes out, calls anti-Trudeau protesters racist without evidence, runs with the story

00:05:38.320 that the liberals were giving them, liberal party staffers were giving them.

00:05:41.720 And now they're having to backtrack, Candace.

00:05:43.680 I mean, this just seems like something we've seen many times before.

00:05:47.160 This is a recycled playbook.

00:05:48.840 Throw out the horrible accusations and then backtrack because there's no evidence to back

00:05:52.700 it up.

00:05:53.140 It's not journalism.

00:05:54.340 It's like the liberals made a claim.

00:05:56.280 The liberals accused their opponents of being racist.

00:05:58.580 This is the thing that we have heard the liberals do 1,000 times over the past 10 years.

00:06:03.380 That's their go-to shtick.

00:06:05.400 People I don't like equate to racist.

00:06:07.900 And it's almost become a joke or a meme on the political right that's like the racist

00:06:13.180 has completely lost all meaning.

00:06:14.980 But typically the role of a journalist, Harris, you know this, you went to journalism school,

00:06:19.160 is to verify.

00:06:20.420 So you don't just run a headline based on what a liberal MP told you.

00:06:24.700 You could at least write alleges and liberals, right?

00:06:27.920 Liberals allege racial slurs.

00:06:29.820 No, they ran it as fact, as truth, that there were racial slurs, even though there's no such

00:06:35.580 evidence.

00:06:36.320 And it wasn't just the CBC that had to change their headline.

00:06:39.320 The Canadian press also changed their headline pretty much exactly like the CBC one that you

00:06:44.020 just showed.

00:06:45.000 You can see the side by side here.

00:06:46.600 It went from the protesters were hurling racial slurs, which was unverified and untrue,

00:06:50.840 to Trudeau cancels appearance at event in BC amid angry protests.

00:06:56.120 So, you know, they're still trying to classify the protesters.

00:06:59.560 Anyone who's anti-Trudeau is either a racist or just an angry conservative.

00:07:04.420 And so those are the sort of like the two boxes that they can put you in.

00:07:07.560 This is Freedom Convoy over and over again.

00:07:09.720 We're going to be seeing this a lot in our country because it's just the go-to media shtick.

00:07:15.020 That's basically their favorite line of attack against Canadians. 0.89

00:07:18.440 It's like, if you don't like our glorious prime minister and you have the gall to protest

00:07:24.100 against him, then there must be something wrong with you. 0.99

00:07:27.000 You must be deranged. 1.00

00:07:27.840 You must be racist. 1.00

00:07:28.880 You must be angry.

00:07:30.480 And I want to show a clip because this is what it looked like, right?

00:07:33.340 You have the prime minister of a country who is not very popular, right?

00:07:36.660 He won with the lowest ever percentage of the vote in the last election, 2021.

00:07:42.560 People aren't happy with his programs.

00:07:44.480 People aren't happy with the economy.

00:07:45.760 People aren't happy with the way that he handled COVID.

00:07:47.920 There is a lot of dissatisfaction.

00:07:50.500 That's legitimate, Harrison.

00:07:51.860 That's legitimate in a democracy.

00:07:53.640 Every prime minister, every politician gets protested.

00:07:56.220 That's part of the job, right?

00:07:57.820 But somehow the media is just so protective over Trudeau and they just treat him like this

00:08:01.820 injured little bird that needs his protection.

00:08:05.180 They run with his lies.

00:08:06.220 They don't verify him.

00:08:07.200 They don't push back.

00:08:08.000 They don't question what he's saying.

00:08:09.900 This is what the protests looked like.

00:08:13.340 You know, people are angry.

00:08:14.840 Pretty much every protest is full of angry people.

00:08:17.940 That's one of the defining characteristics of a protest is that people are angry enough

00:08:22.300 that they're going to leave their home, go to a public place and show their political

00:08:25.400 dismay as part of the democratic process again.

00:08:28.340 So you can see what this looks like with your own eyes and then you can draw your own conclusions

00:08:33.740 about the way that the media covered this.

00:08:36.540 So here's that clip.

00:08:37.360 So here's the clip.

00:08:42.160 So here's that clip.

00:08:43.020 There a story. 1.00

00:08:43.520 Kill Moscow! 0.99

00:09:10.520 So as far as protests go, Harrison, that's pretty tame. I mean, there's a sizable group of people. They're saying Trudeau must go. That's pretty standard political chanting there. And look, if you ask me and I'm asked to analyze the crowd and what's going on, I would just say a group of protesters, well within their political rights, I imagine that many of those people who showed up have been disproportionately harmed by Trudeau's heavy handed measures and by the government's heavy handed response to COVID. 0.93

00:09:38.100 Maybe some of them lost their jobs. Maybe some of them lost their businesses or their livelihood. Maybe some of them can't travel. They want to leave Canada and they cannot.

00:09:46.720 I would imagine that many of those people have very legitimate grievances, very legitimate reasons as to why they're protesting. The media doesn't care. If they don't try to get to know the protesters, they don't try to give them a voice.

00:09:57.700 Instead, they just go right with the playbook of anybody who protests Trudeau is evil and wrong and therefore we must demonize them and frankly further marginalize them, make them more angry.

00:10:10.240 And, you know, any wave of populism that we are seeing, it is the media and it is stories exactly like this one that are contributing and making the problem even bigger.

00:10:18.460 You know, there's a reason why there's so many angry people and so many people who don't like the media and it's exactly because of stories like this. Harrison, what do you think?

00:10:28.300 Yeah, I mean, Trudeau has been getting this reception at almost every city that he visits in Canada.

00:10:33.280 So the idea that they were caught off guard, his security team was caught off guard by this protest, obviously is not true.

00:10:39.440 He was in a he was in a First Nations community before this and he was getting he was getting brutally heckled by the First Nations people there calling him.

00:10:49.440 They went some of them were calling him a criminal. I mean, this guy is is totally unpopular in this country.

00:10:55.580 Wherever he goes, he's getting brutally heckled. And no wonder these people are so frustrated. Right, Candace?

00:11:03.280 He will be he basically told Canadians during the election that the unvaccinated are some of the worst people.

00:11:11.200 I think there's there's a clip of him in French, you know, connecting them to being rapists and things like this and going so far misogynistic, he called them.

00:11:20.240 And then he bans them from getting on airplanes and leaving the country.

00:11:24.420 So they're trapped in a country in which the leader demonizes them constantly and they're being wedged out of society by a government.

00:11:32.320 And yet the expectation is that this that the media needs to cover for the prime minister.

00:11:38.620 And I put this out earlier in the weekend. It's just about this is the state of the legacy media.

00:11:44.360 This is why we have this show about fake news, because the story should be the legacy media should be reporting.

00:11:50.060 This prime minister can't go to a city in this country without getting brutally heckled wherever he goes.

00:11:57.060 Instead, the story is these protests are so terrible.

00:12:00.540 They're the worst of our society.

00:12:02.020 And the prime minister needed to cancel his event because of these horrible protesters.

00:12:06.340 I mean, no wonder they're upset.

00:12:07.680 No wonder they dislike the legacy media.

00:12:10.040 No wonder they obviously have a huge issue with the prime minister.

00:12:13.760 If the legacy media has any interest or any ambition to try and regain some trust that they have lost from Canadians, maybe they should try and do some actual journalism.

00:12:28.340 Verify their reports.

00:12:29.920 Don't just take the liberal media talking points because a political staffer will always do what a political staffer does.

00:12:35.560 They will put out a line that protects their boss.

00:12:37.480 It's it's not it's it shouldn't be a surprise that liberal staffers are coming up with with allegations of racism when there aren't any.

00:12:45.280 The surprise is when the journalists themselves run with that story without doing any actual journals, without doing any actual verification.

00:12:53.100 And then, of course, have to backtrack because they get caught with their you know, they have to they have to really walk away with their tails between their legs.

00:12:59.440 This is another example of them doing Canadians a huge disservice.

00:13:02.860 Well, and and and then they're dishonest, even in that, right?

00:13:07.180 Like they were caught putting out a story that was based on liberal spin that wasn't verified.

00:13:11.780 As soon as they got the researchers to try to find any clip or any verification that there were actual racist comments being made by these protesters, they quickly realized that that story doesn't hold up to any water.

00:13:25.560 And so they changed it.

00:13:26.980 They lied about it.

00:13:27.840 They changed it behind their back.

00:13:28.980 They didn't issue a correction.

00:13:30.260 They didn't put updated story.

00:13:32.080 You know, they didn't they didn't make it clear that they had changed the story.

00:13:35.700 They just quietly rewrote those headlines, quietly rewrote.

00:13:38.600 In the case of the CBC, we wrote like half the article because the original story just wasn't true.

00:13:45.640 It was it was completely fake news.

00:13:47.000 And that's why we covered it.

00:13:48.180 I want to talk about Toronto Star piece as well that that also covered it.

00:13:51.940 They added in a different angle, which was that they claim that the protesters were carrying a noose, that one of the protesters was carrying a noose.

00:14:00.240 And somehow that is the reason why Justin Trudeau wasn't able to go.

00:14:04.840 So I just want to read a little bit of the story because it's pretty amusing.

00:14:06.760 So it quotes an individual called Brayden Cayley, who is a former liberal staffer.

00:14:12.280 He tweeted a picture that he took at the event of a protester dressed in camouflage with the word Trudeau and treason on a wooden cross.

00:14:21.240 So that's that's apparently beyond the pale.

00:14:23.560 So Cayley, who now works for Canada 2020, which is a liberal think tank, this Toronto Star piece, very subserviently calls it a nonpartisan think tank, even though it's completely staffed by liberal insiders and former staffers.

00:14:38.200 He tweeted this.

00:14:39.440 A noose was brought to the door of an event with Canada's prime minister last night.

00:14:44.400 The escalating toxicity being stoked by the extreme right this year is beyond dangerous, except for the Toronto Star picture disputes that claim.

00:14:53.560 In the picture, you could see the picture on the screen here.

00:14:56.560 The noose is hanging from a truck.

00:14:58.440 The truck was in the parking lot.

00:15:00.640 So, no, they didn't bring a noose to the front door of an event with the prime minister.

00:15:05.440 Well, the prime minister didn't bother to show up.

00:15:07.360 But but but but the but the noose was clearly on the truck and the truck was in the parking lot.

00:15:11.820 So more fake news for you there, Harrison.

00:15:14.820 Yeah, more fake news.

00:15:16.120 And when I saw this story, what I immediately thought of, Candace, was when protesters on May Day, which is this sort of.

00:15:22.660 I don't I don't really know.

00:15:24.580 It's a celebration, right, for the socialists in our society.

00:15:28.640 And they came to Queens Park in 2019 with a guillotine basically covered in like a prop guillotine as this was a prop noose.

00:15:37.060 They brought a guillotine to Queens Park and they had a Doug Ford effigy.

00:15:42.020 Basically, I mean, you take you take that and then you compare it to a some angry Canadians with a with a prop noose saying that Trudeau was committing treason.

00:15:55.260 Obviously, we're not going to sit here and say either is OK.

00:15:57.840 But the idea that this is some outstanding, you know, circumstances, these are these are horrible circumstances that no politician has ever had to deal with, Candace.

00:16:06.520 That's just not at all true.

00:16:08.020 This is this is this is commonplace.

00:16:09.680 And it's disappointing that it is commonplace in Canada.

00:16:12.880 But it is commonplace.

00:16:14.260 The left does this just as much as the right.

00:16:16.680 And at this point, I think opposition to Justin Trudeau is not even very political.

00:16:20.540 It's kind of actually passed left versus the left right political divide.

00:16:25.880 But that's what I immediately thought of.

00:16:27.600 The fact that we've seen this way.

00:16:29.780 We've seen examples of this that have been way worse.

00:16:32.120 And of course, we actually have a clip of this.

00:16:34.720 Stephen Harper, who was giving a speech at a rally, was rushed by a protester on the stage.

00:16:41.080 And he just brushed it off and kept talking and made it and made a joke about it, because that's frankly what a leader should do.

00:16:47.460 A leader should not be trying to wedge and divide people.

00:16:51.460 He should understand that this is part of the job.

00:16:54.060 This is part of the gig.

00:16:55.360 People do not like you when you're the leader of a country.

00:16:57.860 People love you.

00:16:58.580 People hate you.

00:16:59.740 But instead, of course, instead of instead of wallowing in and needing the press to to cover him and to make him feel better, Harper just goes along with it and goes on with it with his day because people want to hear what he has to say.

00:17:11.600 Like the people who paid Trudeau to hear what he had to say in Surrey.

00:17:15.180 We have that clip.

00:17:15.960 Let's play that clip just to show you the difference between Justin Trudeau, the way he responds to these incidents, and the way someone like Stephen Harper responded to an incident like this.

00:17:26.280 Strong decisions at the national level on taxes, on spending, on deficits.

00:17:31.040 They would significantly raise those risks.

00:17:33.740 They would significantly raise those risks, friends.

00:17:52.060 A lot more than that.

00:17:52.820 So he even puts a joke at the end there, Candace, just for good measure.

00:18:01.840 I mean, talk about a contrast, right?

00:18:04.740 Well, it's the same location.

00:18:06.440 Surrey, British Columbia.

00:18:07.620 And, you know, Harper just takes it in stride and makes a quick joke about it. 1.00

00:18:10.980 I mean, look, this happens at political events all over the political spectrum, all over the country, all over the world.

00:18:16.060 Like, again, they just the media just treat Justin Trudeau with these little kid gloves like, oh, he's so precious.

00:18:22.200 Oh, it's so dangerous for him to be around these angry, toxic right wingers.

00:18:27.160 And you're right, they could just completely ignore the fact that this happens to politicians of all stripes, and it has been, you know, dating back to forever, basically.

00:18:36.820 So, you know, that's pretty much what we've come to expect from the legacy media.

00:18:44.240 Well, I want to talk about, we reached sort of a dubious anniversary this past week, which was the one week, one year, sorry,

00:18:50.540 the anniversary of the story of the unmarked graves that were apparently discovered at the site of a former residential school in Kamloops, British Columbia.

00:18:59.620 You all recall the sort of escalating events that happened.

00:19:02.900 So we had a chief put out a press release that went viral, went around the world.

00:19:06.960 It made international headlines, got exaggerated, you know, a story about a supposed unmarked graves turned into mass graves,

00:19:14.880 turned into evidence of genocide, turned into burning down churches and tearing down statues and canceling Canada Day.

00:19:20.540 And, you know, our flags being at half-mast for, what, five, six months, the election 2021,

00:19:27.220 the media sort of forced this issue upon us, even though, according to polls, it was like a very low issue for Canadians.

00:19:35.120 It wasn't even the top 10 in terms of what they cared about in the election.

00:19:38.100 And yet, I think it was like, what was it, 27 minutes of the federal debate in 2021 was focused on reconciliation.

00:19:45.420 So this is a story that really, really took on a life of its own.

00:19:50.640 Viewers of the show know that I was quite skeptical of the story.

00:19:53.880 The information within was never verified.

00:19:56.720 It didn't really add up.

00:19:58.140 A lot of the information was really very bare bones, let's just say.

00:20:03.580 No pun intended.

00:20:04.720 But it's interesting to see one year later, Harrison, how the story took a life of its own.

00:20:10.720 And I did an interview with Tom Flanagan, who's a professor of political science, a retired professor,

00:20:15.880 who's basically studied this issue of First Nations relations his entire career.

00:20:20.380 He called this the biggest fake news story in Canadian history, the greatest fake news story in Canadian history.

00:20:26.480 And it's interesting to see one year later how it's being covered,

00:20:29.500 because I think there's been a lot of people in the media coming around to the points that myself and some others made early on,

00:20:37.520 that this story doesn't really hold a lot of water and it doesn't really add up.

00:20:43.540 And so it's sort of interesting to see.

00:20:46.320 So you have the National Post, Terry Glavin, writing.

00:20:48.940 He said, the year of the graves, how the world's media got it wrong on residential school graves.

00:20:53.800 And so he's sort of coming to the conclusion that the same, again, the same thing that myself and others were saying early on,

00:21:00.780 which is that, OK, he writes in the following weeks, well, the term mass graves generally gave way to unmarked graves,

00:21:07.820 a cascade of breaking news events purported to reveal several discoveries of what eventually added up to more than 1,300 child burials

00:21:15.960 at other residential schools across Canada, except that's not what happened in those places either.

00:21:22.540 Glavin continues, he said, as for the most recent uproars, not a single mass grave was discovered in Canada last year.

00:21:33.380 Several sites of unmarked graves that captured international headlines were either already known cemeteries

00:21:38.980 or they remain sites of speculation, even now unverified as genuine grave sites.

00:21:44.380 And then he makes a point that I've made before that people in Coeses, the reserve in Saskatchewan,

00:21:49.560 where Trudeau famously took that picture where he's taking a knee there, that wasn't a discovery.

00:21:56.880 That was a known grave site. That was a known graveyard that included people who were both First Nations

00:22:02.200 and non-First Nations who were buried there.

00:22:04.920 So basically there's just a lot of information that was never verified, a lot of stuff that wasn't true.

00:22:10.840 And yet what you see on the other side, so you see a lot of sort of more sensible reporting,

00:22:14.320 more sensible analysis saying, you know, I think that we probably over-exaggerated a little bit

00:22:19.860 and this led to all kinds of sad, unfortunate occurrences, including burning down churches

00:22:27.160 and vandalizing churches.

00:22:28.800 And also, you know, just this added feeling of victimization and hopelessness for people in First Nations community

00:22:34.740 who now, some of them truly believe that these residential schools were like Holocaust centers

00:22:40.280 and that people were just being mass executed, which is not verified, not true.

00:22:46.040 You know, you still have people on the political left who double down on the fake news narrative.

00:22:51.240 So I want to go to Jagmeet Singh's tweets about this.

00:22:54.000 He tweeted basically just, again, doubling down and verifying the nonsense.

00:22:58.700 He says,

00:22:58.880 One year ago, 215 unmarked graves of Indigenous children were found at a former residential school in Kamloops.

00:23:04.480 Since that terrible discovery, the bodies of hundreds of other children have been uncovered at similar sites

00:23:10.700 and we know that more are waiting to be found.

00:23:13.940 Well, that's just completely untrue.

00:23:15.500 That's just completely untrue.

00:23:16.580 We'll go back to that first one.

00:23:18.300 The bodies of other children have been uncovered.

00:23:21.620 No, there are no bodies.

00:23:22.940 There are no confirmed children.

00:23:24.000 And nothing has been uncovered because there haven't been any excavations, right?

00:23:27.740 The only way that we know that these, or the only reason we suspect that these might be unmarked graves

00:23:34.480 is because of a preliminary ground penetrating radar report that was put out.

00:23:40.400 And it didn't even find that it was 215.

00:23:42.760 It found that it was 200 Harrison and that these were soil disturbances.

00:23:46.520 They weren't necessarily graves.

00:23:49.140 So again, you know, you have facts and then they just don't line up with the narrative.

00:23:54.820 And so now you have these people out there pushing this narrative and it just really falls flat.

00:23:59.780 I just want to show one more piece and I'll get your reaction.

00:24:02.080 There was an op-ed over in the Globe and Mail written by two individuals.

00:24:07.520 The headline reads,

00:24:08.440 Reconciliation can't be achieved with only symbolic gestures.

00:24:11.300 And they sort of double down on all of the narratives that this is genocidal and that this proved genocide.

00:24:16.560 I just want to point out, this is sort of a funny aside.

00:24:20.900 One of the authors of this piece is a First Nations professor.

00:24:24.620 The other one describes himself, Ian Mosby, he describes himself as a settler scholar,

00:24:30.420 an assistant professor of history at the Toronto Metropolitan University.

00:24:33.780 So that is the university formerly known as Ryerson.

00:24:36.880 And that's a new one to me.

00:24:37.900 I've never seen anyone describe themselves as a settler scholar.

00:24:41.220 But Harrison, what do you make of all this?

00:24:44.720 Well, I mean, there's so much to talk about with this and we could really do.

00:24:48.580 We could do an hour long show on this.

00:24:50.300 I mean, first, I think the first thing we should look at is what a lot of journalists have refused to cover.

00:24:56.120 This story really, to me, is a failure of journalism.

00:24:58.700 We at True North, you in particular, Candace, did an excellent job at picking through the facts,

00:25:04.040 at picking through, sorry, the claims and getting to the facts about what was going on

00:25:07.440 at a time when it was politically unpopular to do so.

00:25:10.920 So that, we, you know, True North readers and other people were kind of seeing through a lot of this,

00:25:17.280 but it was really a major failure in journalism.

00:25:19.520 First, we should show people watching right now what the basis was for all these claims.

00:25:24.940 Claims that basically led to a summer in which churches were burned across our country and vandalized.

00:25:31.820 We had Queen Victoria toppled.

00:25:34.400 Egerton Ryerson's statue at Ryerson was toppled.

00:25:36.420 A summer of destruction, really, that was caused by ground-penetrating radar findings

00:25:41.960 that are not conclusive whatsoever, Candace.

00:25:46.100 And frankly, don't even show what is being claimed to, what they're claiming to show.

00:25:52.780 So why don't we show the audience what these ground-penetrating radar findings even look like?

00:25:58.680 So why don't we put those up on the screen?

00:26:00.740 This is what a ground-penetrating radar will show you.

00:26:04.080 It'll show you soil disruptions, which could be anything.

00:26:08.340 And even the First Nations leaders admitted to this in the inquiry findings, Candace,

00:26:14.240 that these could have been tree roots.

00:26:16.760 These could have been graves that were of adults.

00:26:20.820 Nothing proves that, you know, children were buried here in mass graves.

00:26:27.260 And especially if you take Jagmeet Singh's line, it's not accurate to say that whatsoever.

00:26:33.680 Now, also, it's the media coverage of this story that I think is so shocking.

00:26:39.800 The idea that there was very little scrutiny from the legacy media candidates on this whatsoever.

00:26:45.560 Obviously, now, a year later, it's turning out to kind of unfold and most Canadians are starting to catch on.

00:26:52.780 And it's a shame because what really happened was the emotions of Canadians were swept up because of,

00:26:58.420 I think, a lot of understandable sadness and disappointment about this news.

00:27:03.860 No Canadian was happy to read these stories.

00:27:06.780 And I think all of us wanted to feel as though there was something we could do.

00:27:10.560 But the fact is that if the truth was just put out there at the very beginning,

00:27:15.500 I think Canadians, who may now be much more skeptical of what they hear in regards to reconciliation,

00:27:23.500 Canadians would be in a better place.

00:27:25.260 I think Canadians and First Nations communities would have a better, would be on a better, similar page.

00:27:32.220 But now there's a lot of skepticism because I think most Canadians feel they were basically being fed

00:27:37.560 mistruths or spun truths to try and whip up a lot of division and frustration.

00:27:45.940 It's really, it's just disappointing to see.

00:27:49.800 And I want to point this out, too.

00:27:51.420 The New York Post, which is one of the oldest newspapers, I think it's the oldest newspaper in the United States,

00:27:56.560 today they ran a story that calls the Kamloops Mass Graves the biggest fake news story in Canada.

00:28:04.060 And the headline says it was, it's been debunked by academics.

00:28:07.660 I mean, this is devastating stuff.

00:28:09.640 And it's really being, I think the people that it hurts the most are First Nations Canadians.

00:28:15.420 Well, you're right.

00:28:16.380 And it's such a disservice to media, of the media, not just to all Canadians,

00:28:21.020 it's a disservice to all Canadians because there was genuine remorse and contrition

00:28:24.140 and people really just felt awful and wanted to do something.

00:28:26.580 And I think that the sort of goodwill that was offered will be compromised when Canadians learn

00:28:32.560 that, no, this is not actually what happened and more Canadians are.

00:28:36.140 I just noticed anecdotally from the comments, like a year ago when I was first sort of raising

00:28:40.880 some questions about it, I would say that 90% of the comments were people telling me I was wrong

00:28:45.780 and I was on the wrong side of history and it was evil to question this.

00:28:49.160 And now when I read comments, it's like flipped.

00:28:52.680 It's like 90% of people are skeptical of the story and 10% still remain genuinely remorseful.

00:28:58.700 It's also obviously a major disservice to First Nations people, as I mentioned, this idea that

00:29:03.040 we're now teaching them that they are the victims of a genocide.

00:29:07.320 And imagine trying to live a normal life in a society where you're told that your ancestors

00:29:11.580 were targeted and murdered systematically by the state.

00:29:15.220 Like, that's not a healthy environment for a society.

00:29:20.740 Interestingly, so Jonathan Kaye, who we mentioned earlier in the program, he sent out a tweet

00:29:25.100 basically just reiterating this stuff and pointing out that Jagmeet Singh was pushing misinformation.

00:29:31.700 He says, these have always been described as suspected graves since no bodies have yet

00:29:35.480 to be unearthed.

00:29:36.720 And then he says, if Jagmeet Singh is information indicating otherwise you should share it with

00:29:39.700 media, otherwise you shouldn't say that these bodies were unearthed.

00:29:44.020 Interesting.

00:29:45.200 So a local reporter in Kamloops, an individual called James Peters, he replied, and I think

00:29:50.340 that his replies are very sort of exemplary of the mindset of the media.

00:29:55.400 So he just says, this particular brand of skepticism has become popular among certain strains of

00:29:59.820 deniers and contrarians, especially on Twitter.

00:30:02.440 It's all theoretical until the remains are exhumed.

00:30:04.720 This is counterproductive and harmful.

00:30:07.720 So right off the bat, he says, like, how dare you be skeptical of this story that's not verified?

00:30:12.340 He calls Jonathan Kaye a name, deniers, which, you know, we've heard that a lot before.

00:30:18.120 Originally, people who were called deniers were Holocaust deniers.

00:30:21.080 Then they became climate change deniers.

00:30:22.660 And now what?

00:30:23.160 They're mass grave deniers, like they're First Nation unmarked grave deniers.

00:30:28.360 So name calling.

00:30:29.560 And then just saying, anyone asking questions is counterproductive and harmful.

00:30:33.680 And then he goes on to say, denies the efficacy of groundbreaking radar and the work done by

00:30:38.700 scientists such as Sarah Bilyeu.

00:30:40.540 Well, I watched Dr. Sarah Bilyeu's presentation, and she was the one who said, she said during

00:30:47.580 her presentation that, first of all, there's no way to confirm.

00:30:50.840 She said it wasn't 215.

00:30:52.160 It was more like 200.

00:30:53.520 And the only way to determine whether or not there are human remains down there and whether

00:30:58.180 or not they belong to children, whether or not they belong to children at the residential

00:31:00.500 school, the only way to determine any of that is through excavation.

00:31:03.880 I think a lot of Canadians generally believed that there was going to be some kind of excavation,

00:31:07.780 that we were going to be able to verify it.

00:31:09.480 And of course, there's no plans for any of that.

00:31:12.820 And so this is just going to be an ongoing case of people basically saying, you know,

00:31:19.360 on the one side, let's find some facts and let's verify them.

00:31:21.860 And the other side, people basically saying, how dare you?

00:31:24.580 How dare you try to verify or try to get facts to prove the story?

00:31:31.420 Because we all just have to take this fact and then use it as a weapon to basically beat 0.98

00:31:37.280 down Canadian society and say that Canada is a horrible, awful, racist, genocidal, colonialist 0.99

00:31:42.220 society with new legitimacy. 0.98

00:31:43.900 And that's pretty much where the left is these days.

00:31:46.280 Yeah.

00:31:46.440 And there's no way that the media and people in government who were pushing this narrative

00:31:51.440 without any facts, there was no way they didn't know what the product, what was going to come

00:31:56.460 from this, which was basically a, an unprecedented wave of anti-Canadian sentiment being spread

00:32:01.580 by basically being spread throughout our society.

00:32:03.560 Again, labeling our country as this horrible, evil place and basically drawing connections

00:32:10.200 to the very worst, very worst countries in history to Canada, which is the best country

00:32:16.500 I believe in the world.

00:32:17.480 One of the, one of the places that is the freest place on earth, a country that people all

00:32:20.900 over the world would, would give an arm and a leg to come to.

00:32:23.900 And we had our flag lowered for almost six months in a, in a, in a perpetual state of

00:32:30.980 mourning for something that there was just no evidence to back up.

00:32:34.980 And the assault on, on Christian communities in Canada throughout the summer that this caused

00:32:40.040 was unbelievable.

00:32:41.860 And the fact that it got so little attention compared to the, compared to the, the unmarked

00:32:47.400 burial claims that just didn't have any evidence to me, there's no way, Candace, that this,

00:32:53.980 the response that we saw from Canadian society was not anticipated when people started putting

00:33:01.440 this stuff out there without any fact, without any, without any evidence and leaving it up

00:33:05.940 to, to Canadians to interpret.

00:33:07.520 And of course, some people come to the very worst conclusions and some people want to get

00:33:11.580 to the bottom of what was really going on.

00:33:13.660 I think, I think you did that.

00:33:15.320 And we at True North did that.

00:33:16.560 And other journalists did that.

00:33:18.960 But also several people, several people, several journalists and politicians.

00:33:22.780 And to this day, Jagmeet Singh saying that it's, it's unbelievable without evidence.

00:33:27.940 He knows what he's doing.

00:33:29.360 These people knew what they were doing.

00:33:31.020 And it really, it's, I think it's a stain on Canadian journalism.

00:33:34.060 And now we have New York Post, we have, we're going to have international outlets that were

00:33:39.640 pushing this narrative coming out and saying, actually, there's no evidence to back it up

00:33:43.520 at all.

00:33:44.080 So how does it make our country look?

00:33:45.320 It makes us look, I think it doesn't put us in great light.

00:33:49.320 Well, and it's also part of a broader trend, right?

00:33:50.980 This isn't just happening in Canada.

00:33:52.140 I know Douglas Murray has a new book out called War on the West.

00:33:54.940 And the idea that they go after sort of the national figures, the historical figures of

00:34:00.600 a country to try to undermine the very legitimacy of that country, we see it happening in the

00:34:05.500 UK with Winston Churchill, you see it happening in the US, even with Thomas Jefferson or Abraham 0.54

00:34:11.500 Lincoln in Canada, definitely happened with, with John A. MacDonald, where he, you know,

00:34:16.400 he's just completely in the eyes of so many elites, he's just beyond the pale, you know,

00:34:21.840 that that doesn't just hit John A. MacDonald, it hits at the core of Canada and our identity.

00:34:27.400 And I want to stay with this topic, though, of sort of political culture wars that are

00:34:32.020 happening all over the West.

00:34:34.020 And what will we see this past week?

00:34:35.880 I mean, you know, the biggest news story in the world was just the unspeakable, horrible

00:34:40.120 tragedy that happened in Uvalde, Texas, still trying to put together the details of that,

00:34:45.100 Harrison.

00:34:45.300 And you and I were talking before air about this new timeline that came out that's just

00:34:48.460 really unconscionable, the idea that the police waited over an hour before going in to stop

00:34:54.020 this gunman and waiting for backup, while parents were frantically urging them to go inside.

00:34:59.760 For me, when I look at the story, I see, you know, a picture of a very isolated and disgruntled

00:35:07.140 mentally ill young man with no father in the picture, a mother who was using drugs, you 0.93

00:35:12.840 know, he shot his own grandmother, like there's severe dysfunction in this young man's life.

00:35:17.740 Interestingly, you know, an 18 year old male shooter, exactly the same profile as the shooter

00:35:22.860 in Buffalo, New York, in terms of age and gender.

00:35:26.680 You know, it seems to me that there's a broader societal problems, there's probably policing

00:35:31.400 problems, there's, you know, definite social breakdown, you know, this guy spent a lot of

00:35:37.720 time on social media sites like Reddit and Instagram.

00:35:41.920 There's so many things that you can analyze and try to understand.

00:35:44.800 I mean, you can't understand a horrible, unspeakable tragedy, you never will.

00:35:48.580 But it's interesting how the political left and the news media sort of knee jerk reaction

00:35:55.160 is to go straight to gun control. 0.72

00:35:57.520 In the case of Buffalo, they went straight to, you know, white supremacists, evil right 0.98

00:36:02.500 wingers. 0.88

00:36:03.560 They don't want to, they take like the most simplistic perspective and use it as a political

00:36:08.320 weapon against the public instead of really trying to understand what happened, understand

00:36:12.460 what went wrong.

00:36:12.840 It seems like Uvaldi was a pretty horrific case of police inaction.

00:36:17.300 And I'm saying this as someone who is generally very pro-police.

00:36:20.180 But when I read the details there, it's really just very difficult to understand what was going

00:36:25.440 on in that chaotic scene.

00:36:26.720 All this is just to say that whenever there's a big tragedy that's easily exploitable by Democrats

00:36:33.440 in the US, it just seems to quickly make its way up to Canada.

00:36:35.940 So we saw this a few weeks ago with the Roe versus Wade case where all of a sudden Justin

00:36:40.620 Trudeau used that as an example to say that he was going to provide more abortions in Canada

00:36:45.700 and that they were going to allow Americans to come up to Canada to have abortions.

00:36:49.580 You know, when it came to the Buffalo shooter, instantly they were trying to tie the trucker

00:36:55.040 convoy and this guy Pat King and then Pierre Poliev to the murderer.

00:36:59.640 And then now with Uvaldi, almost instinct, like knee-dirk reaction and the media run with

00:37:04.160 it, of course.

00:37:05.060 We saw the Ontario liberal leader here in Ontario, Stephen Del Duca, putting out this tweet

00:37:10.400 saying what happened at Robb Elementary School in Texas.

00:37:12.140 Absolutely horrific.

00:37:12.760 My heart breaks for his children and teachers who've lost their lives.

00:37:16.180 The need for gun control has never been clearer.

00:37:20.020 And, you know, calling for more gun control in Canada.

00:37:22.960 Likewise, there's this CTV City News story saying new gun control measures coming in Canada,

00:37:28.260 Trudeau says.

00:37:29.080 So he's already, he doesn't have a specific policy in mind, but he's ready to pounce, ready

00:37:34.680 to capitalize on the horrible tragedies that are happening in the United States by somehow

00:37:40.460 pretending that the gun rules in Texas are anything remotely similar to the gun laws in

00:37:46.160 Ontario or that the underlying social problems that are occurring in the United States, like

00:37:52.300 some of them do occur in Canada.

00:37:54.180 Some of them, you know, the problem with societal breakdown, with family breakdown, the problem

00:37:58.980 with isolation, especially during COVID, these young isolated men, you know, being told whatever

00:38:05.440 they're told that makes them go so deranged.

00:38:07.360 Um, and then spending a bunch of time on social media, you know, that, that was a problem before

00:38:11.820 it's been exasperated by the lockdowns.

00:38:14.380 Um, but, but, but to sort of import these culture wars into Canada, pretend it's, it's

00:38:18.780 the exact same thing.

00:38:20.180 It's just so callous.

00:38:21.500 Like, I don't know how else to describe it, Harrison.

00:38:23.860 It's so callous.

00:38:24.480 It's like, they're just manipulating people who have emotional takes on these issues that

00:38:30.180 don't think very deeply about them.

00:38:31.660 Their knee-jerk reaction is let's ban all guns or let's, you know, make sure that abortions 1.00

00:38:36.560 are codified in our, in our chart of rights and freedoms or something like that.

00:38:40.100 Like they have a very superficial reaction.

00:38:42.440 And then, and then the liberals capitalize on it and the media like cheers and applause

00:38:46.720 for them.

00:38:47.020 It's, it's, it's just, it's like a pet peeve.

00:38:48.880 It's, it's, it's so callous.

00:38:50.200 What do you think?

00:38:51.260 Yeah.

00:38:51.460 And I think, I think it's really, I think it's a really bad practice.

00:38:55.100 I don't think it does anyone in, in Canada any good when politicians jump on horrible

00:39:00.520 tragedies to push their narratives.

00:39:02.240 Um, when things are so fresh, we, we knew this was going to come because it always does,

00:39:07.440 right?

00:39:07.640 Candace, it all, it always comes when there's something that is dominating the news cycle.

00:39:12.120 There's, there's almost this need for, uh, figures in Canada to, to do something about

00:39:16.800 it and to ride that wave.

00:39:18.700 Um, and we, I mean, the horrible takes on the, on the shooting in, in Texas, obviously don't

00:39:26.600 just stop with, with, uh, Stephen Del Duca's comment about the need for more gun control.

00:39:30.740 Um, the idea that there, there can be any comparison to the issues we're seeing in the

00:39:36.880 United States, these, these ongoing horrible shootings at schools, that, that is, that is

00:39:42.460 a United States thing.

00:39:43.580 The idea that we can even compare, um, any of that to what happens in Canada is just not

00:39:48.260 accurate.

00:39:48.820 We don't have that problem in Canada.

00:39:50.360 We have other problems, significant problems, but the idea that we can ride this and say,

00:39:55.060 well, because of that, because of what happened in Texas, um, we need to push for Canadian,

00:40:00.900 you know, stricter Canadian gun laws.

00:40:02.620 It's, it's, I think, I think it's frankly disgusting because the, these parents and these

00:40:08.620 students, um, who had classmates and family and children, um, taken from them, um, and,

00:40:15.620 and, and, you know, teachers who had lost their lives, these people should be left alone.

00:40:20.260 Their tragedy should not be used to push political narratives.

00:40:24.040 And, and of course we can take, you know, we, that's, that's just the Texas example.

00:40:28.500 Of course, there's the abortion example, um, which shouldn't surprise anyone that Justin 0.99

00:40:32.580 Trudeau jumped on that to push his own narrative.

00:40:34.760 I just really wish in Canada, we set a standard Candace where our politicians don't, don't use

00:40:42.820 awful tragedies to push their narratives.

00:40:45.260 It would really, I'd really appreciate it if we could stop doing that.

00:40:48.300 Um, I think everyone would be better off for it.

00:40:51.080 Um, and I think if Canadian politicians wanted to, um, advance legislation and, and use,

00:40:56.140 use the media to advance legislation, they should at the very least use Canadian examples

00:41:00.540 because that would actually make sense.

00:41:02.340 This frankly just doesn't make sense.

00:41:04.240 And I think Del Dugo couldn't help himself.

00:41:05.900 He had to jump on it.

00:41:06.800 Right.

00:41:09.240 Well, yeah, you're right.

00:41:10.360 And I mean, the, the, the liberals are the king of this because it was after the horrific,

00:41:14.600 horrific, horrible mass shooting in Nova Scotia that Trudeau very, very quickly came out with

00:41:19.260 a sweeping, uh, ban on scary looking guns.

00:41:23.360 And, uh, you recall that was the one that Aaron O'Toole originally opposed.

00:41:27.320 And then as soon as he got a little bit of pushback from the media during the election,

00:41:29.740 he flip-flopped on it.

00:41:30.500 Um, but, but the liberals always use news stories, uh, to, to their advantage.

00:41:34.980 Uh, but this is particularly callous, uh, given that, uh, the, given that is, is we're in the

00:41:42.960 wake of just a horrible, horrible tragedy.

00:41:45.000 Um, interestingly though, just as, as a sort of local related story, um, there was a man who was

00:41:50.720 roaming around a school area in the Scarborough area of Toronto, uh, yesterday, and he was

00:41:56.660 fatally shot by police.

00:41:58.020 Uh, he was holding a gun, turns out it was a BB gun.

00:42:01.080 Um, but the police wasted no time, which is quite frankly, the opposite of what seems

00:42:04.900 to have happened in Uvalde.

00:42:06.260 Again, the timeline, you read through it, it's just mind boggling.

00:42:09.920 Um, this guy was, was outside the school for, I think it was 14 minutes firing his weapon

00:42:15.400 before he actually went into the school, Harrison.

00:42:17.240 So the police had ample opportunity to take this guy out.

00:42:20.120 The, the school had ample opportunity to lock down and lock their doors and, and prevent

00:42:25.020 this deranged shooter from entering.

00:42:26.860 Why none of that was done is beyond me.

00:42:29.840 And, and, uh, it's again, just, just so unspeakable and so horrible.

00:42:33.660 But, uh, again, there, there's no, there's no political tragedy out there that Justin Trudeau

00:42:38.220 and other liberals won't jump to take advantage of.

00:42:40.900 Okay.

00:42:41.200 Final story.

00:42:41.900 I want to talk about Harrison.

00:42:43.200 This is just almost good for a laugh.

00:42:45.400 This was a story that circled around this past week that apparently, uh, 15, 16% of legacy

00:42:51.540 media journalists are suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder.

00:42:54.860 Headline says alarming levels of stress are harming, harming the mental illness, sorry,

00:42:59.960 harming the mental health of Canadian journalists and media workers.

00:43:03.120 So woe is me, it is so hard to be a journalist, Harrison, and you, you read some of these stats

00:43:09.440 and wow, this explains so much.

00:43:11.400 This explains so much of fake news Friday and why we are here.

00:43:14.680 Uh, so according to this anonymous online survey that was conducted in, uh, the end of

00:43:20.340 2021 by, by journalists themselves, self-reporting about themselves, a full 69% of journalists

00:43:25.920 in Canada report anxiety.

00:43:27.200 Okay.

00:43:28.040 46% report depression, 15% report post-traumatic stress injury.

00:43:34.600 So, so, so the majority of journalists in this country self-report having some kind of

00:43:40.700 mental duress or, or instability, uh, that, that, that, that, that really reflects in, in,

00:43:46.760 in their reporting, I think in the way that they handle the news and the way that they

00:43:50.080 try to victimize themselves and make it seem like they, you know, they, they, they have

00:43:54.160 the most dangerous job in the country.

00:43:55.840 Uh, this one's kind of interesting.

00:43:57.380 Media workers face rampant harassment online.

00:43:59.260 So 56% report online harassment and threats.

00:44:02.240 Um, I'm actually surprised it's not higher because my, my, my assumption is, is that, you

00:44:07.740 know, almost all Canadians could say that they report some kind of online harassment.

00:44:11.540 People who spend a lot of time online, uh, realize that whenever you have a platform with

00:44:15.380 anonymous users, there's going to be some just nonsense that's tweeted or, or, or

00:44:19.860 pushed out.

00:44:20.640 And, you know, the, the, the fact that you would dwell on that is, is just beyond me.

00:44:25.280 Um, but to go through a little bit more, they say that 35% experienced harassment in the

00:44:29.240 field, 46% of journalists in Canada report high risk drinking and 26% Harrison describe

00:44:36.540 themselves as heavy drinkers.

00:44:38.460 So, so we have a heavy drinking group of journalists reporting the news.

00:44:43.240 53% have sought medical help to deal with work, stress, and mental health.

00:44:47.040 And 85% have never received training on mental health or trauma at work.

00:44:53.300 So, uh, are you sure you, uh, you sure Harrison that you want to enter this profession?

00:44:58.120 I mean, it's not too late for you.

00:44:59.160 You can, you can get out, but it doesn't really paint a very rosy picture of life as a journalist

00:45:03.800 in Canada.

00:45:05.180 Well, it sure does explain quite a lot, doesn't it?

00:45:07.300 With those figures.

00:45:08.180 What is it?

00:45:08.540 60% have some, you know, are crippling with shaking anxiety.

00:45:12.620 They can't do their jobs.

00:45:14.220 Now, here's the thing.

00:45:15.320 There's, there's so many here.

00:45:16.680 We could, we could, we could really make a lot of jokes.

00:45:18.460 Some, some probably not as not too appropriate for the show, uh, about these numbers, but

00:45:24.800 you know what?

00:45:26.120 We we've seen this so, so often ever since the trucker convoy, there were all these events

00:45:30.940 about, about journalists under attack and, and, you know, the, these, you know, the threats

00:45:35.660 to journalism and, and the war on the news it's there, they're, they really have, I

00:45:41.040 think, found a new gear of trying to put themselves and make themselves out to be the victims.

00:45:45.720 And, you know, I wonder Candace, if maybe just maybe running with a story without verifying

00:45:51.980 it and saying that Canadians who were upset at the prime minister were hurling racist

00:45:55.900 insults at people.

00:45:57.460 And, and then having to backtrack might have to do some, some little bit about some of

00:46:03.820 the online harassment that these journalists are facing.

00:46:06.000 It might just be because their reporting has been so horrendous over the past, what is,

00:46:11.540 it feels like over the past, really the past year, they've really gone to a few years since

00:46:15.520 COVID.

00:46:16.060 I mean, it's just, they've stopped reporting and just started becoming stenographers for

00:46:19.540 the politicians.

00:46:20.460 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:21.400 So maybe that has to do with it, uh, just a little bit that, that they basically are pitting

00:46:26.380 Canadians against each other and running with the government lines.

00:46:29.580 I mean, what, what else can we pick out of here?

00:46:31.340 Uh, the 15% that report, uh, PTSD Candace, I wonder, uh, cause I would probably say that

00:46:38.780 maybe, uh, getting pepper sprayed by, uh, riot cops and getting, you know, shot with tear

00:46:45.880 gas, uh, as the independent journalists, um, as Andrew Laudan and as Alexa Lavoie were, uh,

00:46:52.360 in Ottawa during the trucker convoy.

00:46:53.800 I wonder if they, uh, suffer from any of that.

00:46:56.960 Probably not because they're adults.

00:46:59.180 They understand what goes into being a journalist.

00:47:02.120 Um, but imagine if these legacy media journalists in their cushy corporate subsidy, uh, subsidy

00:47:08.860 journalist offices, they're the ones that are reporting PTSD.

00:47:13.180 Imagine if those people who seem to be so thin skinned and frankly weak, imagine if they had 1.00

00:47:18.240 to do the job that like independent journalists, like the ones that, that we have at true North

00:47:22.800 and the ones that are at rebel, imagine if they had to do that job.

00:47:25.520 I mean, I don't know if they could do, they probably couldn't even take a day of it, Candace.

00:47:29.060 Yeah.

00:47:29.360 I mean, for, for, for, for, to what independent journalists, like I'd like to see them, you

00:47:32.900 know, working on like an oil rig for a day or, or driving a truck.

00:47:36.320 Like, like these, like these poor pampered little journalists.

00:47:40.100 Yeah.

00:47:40.380 Yeah.

00:47:40.820 It's like, it's like, Oh, Oh, my life is so scary.

00:47:44.500 I faced mean tweets online.

00:47:46.300 It's like, yeah, it's because of your reporting.

00:47:48.600 The reason that people, uh, you know, have pushed back online and say things is because

00:47:53.940 they don't like being called racist and they don't like the way you characterize them.

00:47:58.100 And there's no accountability in media.

00:47:59.740 They, they sit, journalists sit there and hurl the craziest accusations of the Canadian

00:48:04.280 public.

00:48:04.960 And then they face the tiniest bit of pushback and they, you know, they do panels at, at

00:48:10.500 Ryerson university or Carleton called the media versus the truckers.

00:48:14.540 Like they, they, they really see themselves on the front lines.

00:48:17.380 And, you know, the, this whole idea, I mean, I've spent a bit of time in Ottawa and I've

00:48:22.020 met many of the people, the parliamentary press gallery.

00:48:24.380 None of this is too surprising for me that, you know, that these people lead very sad, miserable

00:48:28.480 lives, um, 46% are heavy drinkers or sorry, or high risk drinkers, whatever that means

00:48:34.260 at 26, they're heavy drinkers.

00:48:35.780 Yeah.

00:48:36.260 I, I, I could have told you that, uh, you know, from, from going to a political event

00:48:39.800 in Ottawa.

00:48:40.640 So really kind of a sad profession again, Harrison, I would, I would just say it's, it's not too

00:48:47.300 late for you, man.

00:48:48.040 You can, you can go get a real job.

00:48:50.020 You don't have to be a journalist.

00:48:51.900 Um, all jokes aside.

00:48:53.780 If only I received mental health training at work, Candace, then maybe it might make it much

00:48:57.480 easier for me.

00:48:58.220 You should look into that at true North.

00:48:59.860 Yeah.

00:49:00.280 Maybe true North will do some, some kind of program.

00:49:02.960 I don't, I, it's, it's, it's just, uh, it's, it's also fitting.

00:49:06.700 And, uh, in, in all seriousness, though, we, we, we love what we do and it's a lot of fun

00:49:10.700 to poke fun at these journalists because they're just so clueless and they're really bringing

00:49:16.580 the worst kind of division to our society that they're importing us culture wars. 0.62

00:49:20.400 They're blatantly getting news stories wrong.

00:49:23.560 They're, they're lashing out at Canadians or sneering at Canadians.

00:49:26.440 They're dividing Canadians.

00:49:27.840 They're saying that our very foundational history is racist and genocidal.

00:49:32.180 Like, you know, all of, all of the fury, um, that they faced, they had coming.

00:49:38.100 So I'll just, I'll just leave it at that, uh, for today, Harrison.

00:49:41.240 All right.

00:49:41.440 Well, thank you so much for joining us on the show.

00:49:43.360 It's always great to hear from you, Harrison.

00:49:45.120 Yeah.

00:49:45.420 Thanks for having me on, Candace.

00:49:47.200 All right.

00:49:47.500 That's true North journalist and producer, Harrison Faulkner.

00:49:49.920 I'm Candace Malcolm.

00:49:50.840 It's fake news Friday.

00:49:51.520 This is the Candace Malcolm show.

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The Candice Malcolm Show - May 27, 2022

Legacy media pushes fake news claiming Trudeau was a victim of “racist slurs”

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