The Candice Malcolm Show - August 26, 2025


MALCOLM： Elbows up was ALWAYS a lie


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00:00:00.000 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us
00:00:06.440 folks. This episode today is brought to you by Unsmoke but more on them a little later. So I am
00:00:12.040 back in the studio back after a week away. I was chatting with my producer. He asked me if I
00:00:16.880 went anywhere or did anything for the week off and I didn't. I just basically cleaned my house. I
00:00:22.160 spent the entire week cleaning out all of my closets and my kitchen and everything and for
00:00:27.260 everyone out there who has kids you know how much stuff you can accumulate. I've got four kids and
00:00:32.860 we just accumulate a lot of stuff so it's good to every now and then go through and get rid of a lot
00:00:38.120 of it. Okay folks I want to get into the meat of the episode today which is that Mark Carney has
00:00:44.800 put his elbows down and let me just tell you that the elbows up movement it was always a liberal
00:00:51.100 political campaign slogan. It was a slogan. It was nothing more. The media created it. The liberal
00:00:56.640 party created it. Many people in the country thought that it was some kind of a universal
00:01:00.760 pan-Canadian elbows up that we were all in it together. It wasn't. It was always a lie. It was
00:01:05.780 always just about politics and now we have it confirmed. So on Friday Mark Carney prime minister
00:01:11.420 announced that yeah those retaliatory tariffs they're gone. We are removing them and we are
00:01:17.120 going back to basically what we should have been doing all along which is trying to negotiate in good
00:01:21.240 faith without slapping tariffs onto each other. So here is Mark Carney speaking in Ottawa saying that
00:01:26.600 Canada already has the best deal with the United States and so we just didn't need the tariffs
00:01:30.880 anymore. Let's play the clip. Canada currently has the best trade deal with the United States.
00:01:39.020 It's important. It's vital. We do everything we can to preserve this unique advantage for Canadian
00:01:45.660 workers, Canadian businesses. I'm announcing today that the Canadian government will now match. We
00:01:51.520 will now match the United States by removing all of Canada's tariffs on U.S. goods specifically covered
00:01:58.660 under KUSMA. So we're removing the tariffs that we should have removed a long time ago. We're matching
00:02:04.280 the United States which means that they didn't have tariffs. So they're not really retaliatory tariffs
00:02:08.640 are they? If the Americans didn't have them on goods covered under NAFTA or USMCA or whatever you want to
00:02:15.260 call it. But the idea here is that, and you know this, the audience knows this, a tariff, when they
00:02:21.160 talk about tariffs on the Americans, what that really means is a tax on Canadians. Canadians pay
00:02:27.160 the tax. Americans don't pay the tax. Canadians do. When the U.S. companies and Americans export
00:02:33.300 things out of the United States and we import them here in Canada, we pay the taxes on that. So it's a win
00:02:39.900 for Canada that we no longer have to play this silly political game where, you know, partisan actors,
00:02:45.800 politicians wanting to win elections make us pay a tax and make us cheer about it and make it seem like somehow
00:02:51.340 it's patriotic and our duty to have these tariffs, which is really just a tax that we pay. So I guess we could be happy that
00:02:57.680 that is over. But the politics of it is just despicable. Now speaking in the Oval Office, President Trump expressed his
00:03:04.660 satisfaction with Carney's decision. Of course he's satisfied. Of course he's happy because he's winning.
00:03:09.000 He's winning this negotiation. And you can see it all over his face. Here he is saying that he likes Carney quite a bit.
00:03:15.140 Let's play that clip.
00:03:15.720 Canada is taking away some retaliatory tariffs. He's removing his tariffs. He's removing his retaliatory tariffs, which I
00:03:24.380 thought was nice. And we're going to have another call soon. Yeah, we had a very good call.
00:03:27.760 You're getting closer towards the agreement on trade?
00:03:30.480 I like him. We want to be very good to Canada. I like Carney a lot. I think he's a good person. And we had a very good talk
00:03:38.520 yesterday. So I think it'll be good.
00:03:40.200 Again, folks, this should be good, right? Canada and the United States should be on the same team.
00:03:45.920 We should be partners. We're friends. We're allies. We're neighbors. Everything about it
00:03:49.260 should be positive. If Trump wants to re-industrialize his country and reinvigorate
00:03:54.280 the working class, fantastic. Sign Canada up to let's do it side by side in partnership. The reason
00:04:00.120 that this is so incredibly frustrating is because we just want an entire election campaign based on a
00:04:06.020 total lie based on pure propaganda, a slogan that never really made sense, propagated by a bought
00:04:12.100 and paid for media. It is just enough to make you go crazy. This is the state of our country. This is
00:04:17.940 our country. We gave it away to the liberals, again, based on a pure lie. Here is conservative leader
00:04:23.880 Pierre Polyev saying the true things that Mark Carney Cave, that he made a series of concessions,
00:04:30.640 that he got nothing in return. Let's play that clip. I was happy to hear that he got the president
00:04:37.080 on the phone. I know that Mr. Carney has been trying to do that now for about a month and today the
00:04:42.960 president accepted his call and the prime minister took the opportunity to make a series of very generous
00:04:50.540 concessions to President Trump. And I was expecting that when the call was reported that we'd find that
00:04:57.420 President Trump had given us something in return, that Mr. Carney being the negotiator he promised
00:05:03.280 he would be, that he would get something after giving something. But not so. Today we learn that it
00:05:11.820 has been yet another capitulation and climb down by Mark Carney. His elbows have mysteriously gone missing.
00:05:21.120 Paul, you have saying very many, many, many true things here. And folks, let's just get past one
00:05:28.900 thing, okay? The whole elbows up thing, it's a hockey reference, right? When you're playing hockey,
00:05:33.500 you put your elbows up. Elbows up in the corners like this, right? So to all the liberals that were
00:05:37.260 walking around with their elbows up like that, that never made any sense. You're just showing that
00:05:41.040 you don't even understand the metaphor. It never made any sense. And at least now we can put it to bed
00:05:46.340 and move past and move away from the elbows up nonsense. Because again, if you voted for Mark
00:05:52.180 Carney and the liberals based on elbows up, based on the idea that he was going to fight Trump,
00:05:56.600 that he was going to negotiate a deal, that he was going to get something for Canadians,
00:06:01.220 and that he was going to punish the Americans, well, that didn't happen. That was never going to
00:06:05.740 happen. It was never a lie. And let me just remind folks, I know you in the audience, you know,
00:06:09.920 you were here for it. You never fell for the nonsense. But the legacy media did. And the people who
00:06:14.780 watched legacy media, the people who watched CBC, CTV, Global News, everybody, they were all
00:06:19.480 promoting this idea that Trump, that Carney was going to play, that he was going to win. He was
00:06:25.460 going to, he was playing chess and that he was going to win and that he was going to get something
00:06:29.860 in return. Junos called it, right? From the beginning. This is back in March, March 28th.
00:06:35.360 We put out a mini documentary about Carney and the many, many lies he told. And the headline here,
00:06:42.060 Eurasia Group president admits that Mark Carney will quietly fold to the Americans after the
00:06:46.580 election. So yes, we dug up a blog post written by Ian Bremmer, the head of the Eurasia Group.
00:06:51.840 For those who don't know, Eurasia Group is this sort of shadowy cabal consulting group led by Ian
00:06:57.980 Bremmer. He employs Gerald Butts, Justin Trudeau's former advisor and best friend. He employs Mark
00:07:03.520 Carney's wife. Also, he employs Evan Solomon, who is a liberal MP. They all work for this group.
00:07:10.660 Ian Bremmer wrote, I expect Ottawa will quietly fold shortly after the vote to ensure ongoing
00:07:16.540 relations with the US remain functional. Okay. So they said the quiet part out loud. They spilled
00:07:22.280 the beans. They told us in the beginning that it was all a lie. It wasn't real. It wasn't true.
00:07:27.620 There was no such thing as elbows up. We're going to quietly fold to the Americans once the election
00:07:32.260 is over. Well, here we are. End of summer, quiet news days. Not a lot of people are paying attention
00:07:37.080 to what's happening. And Friday afternoon, lo and behold, quietly fold. Carney quietly folded,
00:07:43.680 just as Juneau News predicted, just as Juneau News reported, just as Ian Bremmer told us seven months
00:07:48.760 ago that this was going to happen. And it happened. Folks, again, the idea that retaliatory tariffs are
00:07:55.000 gone isn't a bad thing. It's actually a good thing. I don't want Canadians paying these taxes. It's just
00:08:00.700 that we were duped. The legacy media and the Liberal Party work hand in glove, as they always do, to promote
00:08:06.580 pure propaganda. And Canadians are worse for it. Well, the Juneau News audience knows better. So we did a poll
00:08:14.200 over the weekend, elbows up or elbows down. We asked our readers whether they agree with Mark Carney's decision
00:08:21.060 to drop the retaliatory tariffs. 15% said yes, it was a good idea to drop the tariffs on the United States.
00:08:27.220 8% said no, we should keep those tariffs. I guess that's the elbows up crowd. And 77%. So the
00:08:33.720 overwhelming majority of you agree with me on this one, that it was a good move. But Mark Carney
00:08:38.620 is still a hypocrite. All right, folks, happy to introduce today's guest, Wyatt Claypool, who is a
00:08:44.600 political commentator and founder of the National Telegraph. Always great to have you on the program.
00:08:49.860 Wyatt, welcome. What did you make of Mark Carney's Friday afternoon surprise?
00:08:53.760 Well, it wasn't as surprising to me just because we've actually seen this play out twice now. He got
00:09:00.680 in on the elbows up agenda, as you've been talking about. And then he went a little softer when he
00:09:07.040 came to the Oval Office and talked with Donald Trump face to face, which you would assume would be the
00:09:13.040 time you would drop your own retaliatory tariffs, and then you'd want to make a deal. And we didn't.
00:09:19.400 And then right after we had that meeting, like a couple weeks later, we had the digital services tax
00:09:25.320 issue, where we tried to implement what was effectively a new tariff on US big tech companies
00:09:33.560 that obviously caused the American negotiators to walk away from the table, because even the Biden
00:09:38.900 administration had been telling us not to do that. We had to rescind that to get them to come back to
00:09:43.300 the table. And then we failed to negotiate like the readouts from people like Howard Lutnick and
00:09:49.360 President Trump himself, when they were talking about the negotiations with Canada, it sounded like
00:09:54.360 we were just in the room and saying, hey, we're like PB and J, we are better together. And that's
00:09:59.680 basically our negotiating standpoint that we should just get along. We didn't play anything on the
00:10:03.960 table. We didn't even make any demands or threats. We made we did nothing because even when Trump was
00:10:09.220 asked, he said, what negotiations? We're not talking about anything. And and then now what
00:10:15.080 we're doing, and this is why somehow Carney keeps triangulating himself, the worst position on every
00:10:21.420 issue. He's now gotten rid of the retaliatory tariffs just to get back to the table. We keep
00:10:27.360 having to make concessions just to make come back to the table. So it's the worst way of having to give
00:10:32.920 something up. It's not even to get something done. It's just for paying the price of admission.
00:10:37.740 Well, it's just it's pure posturing, right? Like even the digital sales tax, again, it's this idea
00:10:43.740 that, oh, make the big American companies pay. It's like, no, those are going to be taxes on
00:10:48.180 Canadians. It'll be Canadians paying those taxes for the services that they use in Canada, like
00:10:53.740 Netflix. Right. And and the whole idea behind these tariffs was an election slogan. Like it's not like
00:11:00.560 it's a smart group of negotiators thinking purely in regard to how do we reindustrialize Canada? How do we
00:11:07.640 create more working class and middle class jobs? How do we reinvigorate our economy? It's basically,
00:11:14.280 well, we have to win an election. And so how can we reverse engineer everything into a political war?
00:11:20.740 We'll use the media. We'll create this narrative. We'll push pure propaganda. And as long as we win
00:11:27.380 the election, we're happy they win the election. And now they just have to basically walk it all back.
00:11:31.460 I liked how Polly have mentioned that it took a month to get Trump on the phone. Right. So it's
00:11:38.720 like to your point that there's no negotiations. Right. Like Dominic LeBlanc went to Washington,
00:11:43.780 D.C. and I don't know who he met with. Maybe he met with the, you know, the Canadian ambassador or
00:11:51.200 something. But like there was no one there to meet him. They were all in Europe negotiating their own
00:11:55.660 different agreements. So it shows you what a low priority Canada is. What do you think?
00:12:00.740 Well, and the thing that we ended up having to with the entire, with the phone call, it was
00:12:07.940 reported before Carney came out and said, we're going to pull off their retaliatory tariffs.
00:12:11.900 This wasn't a scheduled call. It wasn't something that both sides wanted. We effectively had to beg our
00:12:18.360 way into getting a phone call with them. And again, we, we, all we really did was again, get back to the
00:12:24.660 negotiating table. And you're right about Europe. Trump and the American negotiators have actually been
00:12:30.360 getting really good deals where they are having guaranteed, uh, like buys of American products
00:12:36.500 that the Europeans and, uh, you know, the United Kingdom are going to buy American oil and gas
00:12:42.200 products to the tune of like 780 billion over the next few years. And what Canada has been doing is
00:12:49.140 we show up to Europe and we just vaguely make deals about how we should maybe try and trade more.
00:12:55.280 So at the start of this trade, uh, situation, this crisis, what happened is that like our exports to
00:13:02.960 the United States have dropped 12%, but our exports to Europe or to elsewhere have only gone up 14%. But
00:13:10.540 considering that that other, uh, that, that non-US trade only represented 20% of our exports
00:13:16.740 means that we've only done ourselves damage through this. And it, and it shows you're in a toxic
00:13:21.720 political environment when during an election, people are voting for elbows up when it has nothing
00:13:27.140 to do with their own material wellbeing, has nothing to do with people who are not doing so well as
00:13:32.480 material wellbeing. It's helping literally nobody, but you get to feel good when you put your ballot in
00:13:38.360 the ballot box saying that you're sticking it to Donald Trump, who frankly is running the more
00:13:43.600 powerful economy. And we're not going to be able to trip them up before we end up going down in flames.
00:13:49.120 Well, and it's so ironic, right? Why? Because the reason that Trump is saying complimentary things
00:13:53.720 about Mark Carney is because Mark Carney is groveling and kissing up and kissing the ring. Like he's,
00:14:00.060 he's going out of his way to say really, really, really nice things about Donald Trump. And yet he got
00:14:06.680 elected because Canadians really, really, really don't like Donald Trump. Right. And so here he is
00:14:11.740 capitulating and flattering him and saying that he's a transitional leader and he's this great
00:14:17.900 thinker and all this stuff, even though his liberal base, they literally voted for the exact opposite
00:14:24.580 of it. Okay. I want to get to another liberal lie, which is that we're going to cap our immigration
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00:15:13.760 unsmoke.ca to learn more about this campaign. Okay. So Wyatt, we learned on Monday that the liberal
00:15:22.480 immigration numbers are worse than you thought. So remember last year when Justin Trudeau kind of
00:15:28.240 admitted that they totally overshot, that the temporary reform program was out of control. He said that
00:15:33.680 there were corporations taking advantage of loopholes and that they were going to cap the program. So
00:15:37.500 they announced these caps. Well, the numbers came out. They proposed a cap of 82,000 on temporary
00:15:42.800 foreign workers. In the first six months of this year, they've issued 105. Okay. You cap it at 82,
00:15:49.880 you issue 105 in the first six months. That's not really a cap. Same with the international mobility
00:15:54.340 program. It was supposed to be capped at 285 and they've already let in 302,000 people in the first six
00:16:00.520 months of 2025. So Pierre Polyev rightly called out the liberals for overshooting their own immigration
00:16:08.080 targets. What an absolute mess, right? Like they can't even cap immigration numbers, right? What do
00:16:15.340 you think, Wyatt? Well, and they're trying to be sneaky by instead of just only bringing more people
00:16:21.020 in, they're also giving out generous amounts of visa extensions so that you may have come in as a
00:16:27.320 temporary foreign worker three or four years ago and you're supposed to leave. But now you get to
00:16:31.980 be here for six years. And now I would consider that to be a new temporary foreign worker because
00:16:37.620 the point of the program is temporary. That you are going to be here for a few years, you make some
00:16:44.060 money, you fill in the gap in the economy, and then you go home. We're not even using the TFW
00:16:49.320 program to fill in gaps in the economy. We're basically just taking away jobs from young Canadians.
00:16:53.980 But regardless, you were supposed to do that for a bit and then leave. But now it's going to be
00:17:00.040 perpetual foreign worker programs where you will never actually have to leave the country because
00:17:05.360 there is always another renewal around the corner. Well, and I mean, so the thing that the conservatives
00:17:10.880 point out, rightly so, like they sound really good on immigration lately. I wish they took this
00:17:15.140 hard-knit approach during the election campaign. But they basically wrote in their release yesterday
00:17:21.060 that Mark Carney promised to fix immigration, but he's made it worse. He supports liberal,
00:17:27.020 out-of-control liberal immigration policies that have delivered a triple-header crisis
00:17:31.140 in housing, health care, and youth unemployment, right? And so it's like these things aren't going
00:17:38.840 to just fix themselves. When you have millions and millions of people who have just come to the
00:17:42.860 country and there's nowhere to house them and our health care queues are already of control.
00:17:47.800 We did an episode last week with Colin Craig, who has an excellent documentary about how we could
00:17:52.260 potentially fix Canada's system by looking at what Japan does. And then you also have this youth
00:17:56.920 unemployment number. It almost seems like the liberals have given up on these three issues.
00:18:00.780 Like they don't even care anymore. And I think that the housing one is really tricky to fix.
00:18:05.980 But the youth unemployment one, it's like the numbers are really bad. Young Canadians aren't working.
00:18:11.220 They haven't been this high. Youth unemployment rate hasn't been this high since the 90s.
00:18:14.480 And I never hear liberals talking about it. I don't think it's a priority at all. What do you think?
00:18:18.940 Well, the liberals have kind of put themselves in a bit of a, between a hard, like a rock and a hard
00:18:23.700 place when it comes to their base that they're relying on for votes. This is also why they don't
00:18:29.300 really want to solve the housing crisis because frankly, the base of the liberal party is more,
00:18:36.400 like is usually more upper middle class, usually a little bit older. And so you have a base full of
00:18:42.400 people who already own their own homes, who live in the nicer part of town, who don't actually care
00:18:47.360 about crime as much because, well, they don't live in that area. And then with the TFW issue with
00:18:53.760 immigration in general, the thing is that the liberals rely on a lot of votes where they have
00:18:59.920 big businesses who want the TFW program in order to basically, you know, sustain their company with
00:19:06.660 lower wage workers, as well as they tend to do really well where there is a lot of immigration
00:19:13.300 lawyers and scammers. And this becomes a part of the economy with fake universities and, you know,
00:19:19.380 fake front groups in order to be able to, you know, generate the effectively what is becoming a human
00:19:25.280 smuggling business. But the liberals have staked out a very kind of weak coalition. And it's good that
00:19:30.500 the conservatives are actually not just saying we need it lower because that was the, you're right,
00:19:35.620 the conservatives had a very weak position in the last election. If the liberals are saying 400,000
00:19:41.060 and you're saying 250,000, strictly having one less than what the liberals are doing is better than the
00:19:47.140 liberals. But it has to be much better to solve the problem. Because if we are driving towards a cliff
00:19:52.580 at 100 kilometers an hour, I don't care if we're just ratcheting the speed back to 60. I'd rather
00:19:58.220 reverse the car. And that's what Polyev is doing with the net negative migration promise.
00:20:03.940 Well, it's interesting because those issues, right, housing, health care, and youth unemployment,
00:20:08.100 they're all economic issues, right? And the conservatives like to stay in the economic lane
00:20:11.680 because it's easier. But there's also a huge kind of elephant in the room when it comes to
00:20:15.700 immigration, which is social cohesion and integration. And it's just not happening. And so
00:20:21.080 there's a lot of sort of siloing off of immigrant groups. Like you drive around Toronto,
00:20:25.860 and it's like, you know, one pocket will be like super waspy and kind of like Canada,
00:20:31.120 like was probably in the 1970s and 80s. And then you drive across one major intersection,
00:20:35.940 and all of a sudden you feel like you're in like, in India or in China or in Korea. Like,
00:20:41.320 it's very, very siloed and balkanized. And there are a lot of social issues that come from that.
00:20:47.580 But interestingly, the conservatives are starting to talk a little bit about the crime aspect that
00:20:54.740 comes along with immigration. They sent out a news release just five minutes ago,
00:20:58.740 immigration status is not a get out of jail free card. And so they're talking about the justice
00:21:04.580 system and that story of a non-citizen who got convicted of a violent assault. But then basically,
00:21:11.540 the judge let them off so that they wouldn't get, they let them off with a lighter penalty so that
00:21:15.600 they wouldn't get deported. It's all kind of tied together in this mess that the liberals
00:21:20.660 have created. What do you think, Wyatt? Well, frankly, I don't think the judge had to be too
00:21:25.520 worried. Even if they threw the book at them, I don't think that the Canadian government would
00:21:29.480 be competent enough to actually deport them. There are potentially hundreds of thousands
00:21:33.880 of people who have overstayed visas who are now in Canada illegally, and we don't get rid of them
00:21:39.320 either. But that is a great move. Like, the thing is that the conservatives' path
00:21:44.220 to winning an election really is being tough on immigration, being tough on crime, and then
00:21:50.400 substantially lowering taxes. Not like the last election, not, again, reducing taxes under $50,000,
00:21:56.220 a little more than liberals, like a big tax cut that allows people to actually imagine how their
00:22:01.160 lives would be substantially better once you implemented it. But, and on this crime and justice
00:22:06.800 issue, it just ends up touching on so many areas of Canadian life when it goes into both the cultural
00:22:12.780 aspect that we're, for some reason, almost allowing certain communities to be more, like, to be more
00:22:19.260 criminal. That it's going to then soak into that particular community if people just have the idea
00:22:25.660 that you get, you know, a lighter sentence. It's what happens in the United Kingdom with Pakistani
00:22:31.100 gangs, is that it basically creates its own culture that you can do whatever you want if you're a
00:22:36.880 Pakistani man because the, you know, the law won't actually come after you.
00:22:40.860 Well, yeah, we've created a two-tier justice system where Canadians are the ones that get the
00:22:44.880 harsher sentences and the harsher penalties and treatments. It's unbelievable. Well, some good news,
00:22:49.820 Wyatt, which is that the conservatives have retaken the lead according to the latest Abacus data
00:22:55.680 polling. Abacus is one of the best, if not the best, pollsters in the country. And according to a newly
00:23:01.280 released poll, it shows that Pierre Polyev has taken a slim lead over the Liberals, 41 to 39. If
00:23:07.000 you look at the graph of committed vote intention, this is so disappointing and so sad, Wyatt. But you
00:23:12.820 can see how the conservatives had the lead in the polls going back to 2024. And, you know, their lead
00:23:18.640 ranged anywhere from 41 percent up to 47 percent, I think, at the height. And then right around the time
00:23:24.860 that the election campaign started, Mark Carney was swapped in. The propaganda media did their thing.
00:23:31.440 And for, oh, I don't know, a couple of months here, you had conservatives and liberals neck and neck.
00:23:37.460 And then now you finally have the conservatives retaking and the libs down to 39. It's so unbelievable.
00:23:44.020 But it seems like perhaps Canadians are getting a reality call that really the biggest issue in the
00:23:50.200 country isn't President Trump. It's actually cost of living and crime and all these other things that
00:23:55.060 we've been talking about. What do you think? Well, the Liberals started off after the election.
00:23:59.980 Naturally, governments tend to poll better right after they're elected, because if you ask people,
00:24:04.380 who do you think should be in office right now? They're gonna be like, well, I guess the guys who just
00:24:08.020 won should be the ones in office. That's why I actually preferred prime minister polling does not
00:24:12.120 really work this soon after an election, because like you're like, who do you want to be the prime
00:24:15.840 minister? Like, well, I might be a conservative, but I had hoped the person who won the most seats
00:24:20.040 is going to be the prime minister. But what this has been the result of, the conservatives now
00:24:25.520 leading the liberals by two points, is just a cavalcade of liberal policy failures, of just
00:24:32.040 stupid imagistic problems, you know, recognizing a Palestinian terror state, the DST climb down on
00:24:39.220 the digital services tax, you have the Ericanda fiasco. And by the way, this poll was actually
00:24:44.260 conducted, started being conducted a couple days before the Ericanda fiasco. So the window of the
00:24:50.020 poll didn't even fully capture how mad a lot of, you know, NDP liberal switch voters got at them,
00:24:55.500 and how a lot of people were probably going to go back to the NDP. But the, I think that Carney
00:25:00.680 has just had so many small to medium sized blunders, that it's that for a lot of people who were willing
00:25:07.740 to give them a chance, they're now pulling back. They may not even be voting conservative, because the
00:25:12.620 conservatives in Abacus's last poll were at 40, and now they're at 41. Whereas the liberals were at 43,
00:25:18.140 and now they're at 39. So we've had a five point swing. Most of the swing seems to have just gone
00:25:24.320 with a bunch of people becoming undecided, not really knowing what they think about Carney anymore.
00:25:29.800 Interesting. And you can see back to the graph here is just that the NDP has still plummeted and
00:25:36.280 have like, there's no, there's no dead cat bounce here. Like they are down and they're staying down. I know
00:25:41.060 they don't have a leader, but I find it hard to even imagine the prospect of a strong NDP right now,
00:25:46.160 because the left is just so lost, right? They're like out in the wilderness. The issues that they
00:25:50.840 prioritize are so different than the ones that take, that prioritize for Canadians. I want to
00:25:56.020 talk about the issues. So Abacus asks Canadians who they trust most on the issues. This is really
00:26:01.360 interesting. Healthcare, majority or plurality, I should say conservative. So 30% conservative,
00:26:07.120 28% liberal. Rising cost of liberal, rising cost of living, thanks to the liberals. 39% say conservative,
00:26:13.980 only 27% for the liberals. Housing affordability, conservatives win on that issue. Crime and public
00:26:19.260 safety, obviously 61% say conservatives on that one. The economy, conservatives as well dominate
00:26:25.600 45%. Interestingly, climate change, the libs still have the advantage there, but I hate to break it to
00:26:32.320 you. No one really cares about climate change right now. That's sort of a luxury issue. And when you can't
00:26:37.240 afford anything and people are breaking into your house, you don't have the luxury to care about
00:26:41.440 a hypothetical, theoretical change in the climate. The threat posed by Russia and China,
00:26:46.940 liberals still hold the lead on that issue. Inequality and poverty, people who put that first
00:26:52.680 still go to the NDP, indigenous reconciliation. Liberals went on that issue. But immigration,
00:26:59.480 Chinese election interference, and job security and unemployment conservatives went on all of that.
00:27:04.520 The only other issue that the liberals still went on, again, is Donald Trump and his administration.
00:27:08.720 I don't know why, because as we talked about off the top, that was all nonsense.
00:27:14.800 But there is something very key about the Donald Trump answer in this poll. If you go back to June
00:27:21.000 29th, that abacus data poll, and this was still not its highest watermark, but we had 48% of Canadians
00:27:28.320 putting that in their top three issues. And in not that long of a time, it's now dropped down to 38%.
00:27:34.080 So we've had it drop by 8% over just two months. And so what we're probably going to end up seeing by
00:27:41.500 the time the fall session ends up hitting, especially as sort of the trade issue develops,
00:27:47.120 that Carney is signaling that Trump is not a threat to him, and actually our deal with the United States
00:27:53.020 is the best in the world. And so what we're going to have is that the liberals' biggest issue
00:27:57.880 is going to start falling down the ranks. Because there was the polling on who do you trust more
00:28:03.440 on it, and then there was also how many people care. And right now, the top issues that people
00:28:07.880 care about are all the ones that end up favoring the conservatives. There is, you know, the cost of
00:28:13.140 living, and then there's Trump, and then there's the economy, and then there is, you know, crime,
00:28:18.380 healthcare is kind of a bit of a split issue between the liberals and the NDP. But as you go down,
00:28:22.380 it takes a while for you to find a second issue for the liberals after Donald Trump,
00:28:26.800 and they can't play that card again. They've already played it, and now they've said that
00:28:30.480 actually it's great to work with the United States. Exactly. They've totally caved, and
00:28:35.040 we should have known better because we were saying so all along. Wyatt Claypool,
00:28:39.300 thanks so much for joining us. I always appreciate your time and your insights.
00:28:42.620 Absolutely. Thanks for having me on. All right, folks. That's a lot of time we have for today.
00:28:45.540 We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show.
00:28:48.260 Thank you, and God bless.
00:28:52.380 Thank you.