The Candice Malcolm Show - August 05, 2025


Mark Carney is looking more like Justin Trudeau every day


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The Candace Malan Show is sponsored by Unsmoke. In this episode, Candace talks about the disappointment of Prime Minister Mark Carney's failure to get a trade deal with President Trump. She also talks about Canada's decision to recognize the Palestinian state.

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is the Candace Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for
00:00:07.300 you folks, and I want to let you know that today's episode is sponsored by Unsmoke, but
00:00:11.720 more on them later. First, I want to drill in on a major deadline that happened last
00:00:18.040 week and over the weekend, which is that August 1st came and went, and Mark Carney, Prime
00:00:22.860 Minister Mark Carney, did not negotiate a deal with President Trump and the Americans.
00:00:27.100 Remember that Mark Carney was elected on a promise. We were told that he was the one
00:00:31.940 that could get a deal with President Trump, that he was the one that could get through
00:00:35.600 to him. They called him the Trump whisperer, and he was going to get it done for Canada.
00:00:39.660 Remember the whole elbows-up campaign? Well, he failed to live up to that version of himself,
00:00:44.800 that promise, that campaign promise. He had high expectations. He set the expectations
00:00:49.380 high, and then he let us all down. So we're going to go through that today and just talk
00:00:54.680 about the great disappointment that has been Prime Minister Mark Carney. So remember,
00:00:59.740 at the G7 summit in Kananaskis, Alberta back in June, President Trump said that a trade deal
00:01:05.900 could be achieved within days, and Mark Carney said that the pair was working together to get
00:01:11.860 something done within 30 days. Let's play that clip.
00:01:14.920 Do you think a deal is achievable within days, within weeks? Is there that kind of runway?
00:01:21.060 Yeah, it's achievable. Both parties have to agree. Yeah, sure.
00:01:24.800 Seeing progress that's been made, President Trump and I agreed to pursue negotiations towards a deal
00:01:30.580 within the coming 30 days.
00:01:33.200 So usually you set the expectations low so that you can overachieve, right? So you can go beyond
00:01:38.640 people's expectation. Prime Minister Mark Carney did the exact opposite. He set the expectations high.
00:01:43.840 I want to read a little bit from Toronto Sun columnist Brian Lilly, who wrote that Carney has
00:01:48.180 failed to deliver on what he promised to Canadians. So he says, how did Canada get to this point?
00:01:53.360 We went from being a trade priority close to a deal with Washington to not having a deal and not
00:01:58.860 being a priority. Friday came and went, and there was no trade deal with Donald Trump. Mark Carney's
00:02:03.760 point man on Canada-U.S. relations, Dominic LeBlanc, left Washington for Moncton, New Brunswick,
00:02:09.300 a clear sign that the trade talks were not continuing in a serious way. The Americans don't
00:02:13.980 take weekends off if things are going well. Last week, by the way, Trump announced trade deals with
00:02:18.900 the European Union while he was on his golf course in Scotland, and his top trade negotiator,
00:02:23.240 Garrison Greer, Damascene Greer, was in Sweden doing trade talks with China. And this past week in
00:02:29.360 Washington, Canadian officials may have been in the American capital, but they were not meeting
00:02:34.180 with the top American officials. People like Greer were busy elsewhere, and they were relegated.
00:02:39.380 Meanwhile, Carney couldn't even get Trump on a call. Yes, that's right. Mark Carney was trying to get
00:02:47.220 through to President Trump. Speaking to reporters on the eve of the terror hike, President Trump said
00:02:52.720 that he has not taken Mark Carney's call. Let's play that clip.
00:02:56.440 Canada moves forward with recognizing the Palestinian state. Is that a deal breaker?
00:03:01.160 Well, we're going to see. No, I didn't like what they said, but that's their opinion. I didn't like
00:03:06.180 that. Not a deal breaker, but we haven't spoken to Canada today. He's called, and we'll see.
00:03:13.820 So President Trump doesn't want to take Carney's call. Why? Because Carney's off embarrassing
00:03:17.940 Canada by saying that they're going to recognize a terror state, a country run by terrorists,
00:03:23.080 and that is Palestine. Meanwhile, speaking on CBS's Margaret Brenner's Face of the Nation,
00:03:28.300 Canada's trade minister, Dominic LeBlanc, said that Carney had tried to reach out to Trump
00:03:32.660 and will hopefully speak to him in the next few days. Let's play that clip.
00:03:36.540 Any plans for the two leaders to speak? I saw President Trump said your prime minister called
00:03:41.980 them Thursday, and they just never connected. I mean, are tensions that high? And given the changing
00:03:47.460 justification for the tariffs, do you really feel like you're negotiating with the other side in
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00:04:04.260 I hope we don't go cashless. I would say land is a safe investment. Technology, companies,
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00:04:22.740 Start now at Wealthsimple.com. Sure we do. Of course we do. As I say,
00:04:28.620 the conversations have been informative, constructive, and cordial. I would expect the prime minister
00:04:34.580 will have a conversation with the president over the next number of days. That's certainly my plan,
00:04:40.940 again, with Secretary Lutnik. Embarrassing, right? Trump won't take Carney's call.
00:04:45.860 Dominic LeBlanc goes to Washington and won't even meet with his counterparts. He's meeting with low
00:04:51.980 level officials. They can't get them on the phone. And so because we failed to meet that August 1st
00:04:57.000 deadline, as reported by Juno News, Carney fails to meet the trade deadline. And therefore, on August
00:05:02.240 1st, the White House imposed a 35% tariff on Canadian exports not covered under the USMCA. Donald Trump signed
00:05:10.300 executive order, raising tariffs from 25% to 35% on select Canadian goods, citing fentanyl trafficking
00:05:16.380 and long-standing trade loopholes. Not a good day for Canada. Not a good day for Prime Minister
00:05:23.920 Montcarni. Okay. And to discuss this a little bit more, I'm very pleased today to introduce a new guest
00:05:29.540 on the show. But you might be familiar with this individual because he's launched his own show here
00:05:33.360 on Juno News, talking about Alexander Brown. So Alexander is the Director of Communications
00:05:37.840 over at the National Citizens Coalition. And he now hosts a show called Not Sorry on Juno News,
00:05:43.320 which appears every Tuesday. Alexander, welcome to the show. Great to have you on the program. Great
00:05:48.980 to have you on the network. Candace, thanks for having me. I've been a big fan of Juno and previously
00:05:54.540 the work at True North. And so to take my communications to your audience, to get to video
00:06:00.740 podcasts with them and write for them as well. It's a pleasure. Well, I was interested when I
00:06:06.240 watched your first episode, I learned something new about you, which is that your grandfather
00:06:10.060 was actually the founder of the National Citizens Coalition. So Colin Brown started that organization.
00:06:15.720 I think everyone knows the National Citizens Coalition from the days that Stephen Harper led
00:06:20.380 the organization. So Harper ran the National Citizens Coalition from 1998 to 2002. But maybe you can share a
00:06:27.340 little bit of the history of the organization before Stephen Harper took over.
00:06:30.840 Yeah. So it was, I'm a nonprofit Nepo baby. So it was founded by my grandfather in 1967 under Trudeau,
00:06:38.420 the former, when there was wartime spending at a time where we shouldn't have been spending that way,
00:06:46.760 where business and taxpayers were starting to realize, uh-oh, this guy doesn't know what he's doing.
00:06:52.460 And so it was, it's been a longstanding advocate for the little guy, for, for industry, for small
00:06:59.760 businesses, for, for more freedom and less government, and, and has fought battles for decades
00:07:05.440 on, on legal matters to, uh, election rights, to lowering your taxes and standing up for your
00:07:13.120 personal freedoms. And very lucky to have Stephen Harper as president, um, before, before finally
00:07:18.660 becoming prime minister, which is a real feather in the cap. And now I'm thankful for steering it.
00:07:23.660 We're, we're running all kinds of campaigns. We ran a, a really strong federal election advertising
00:07:29.000 campaign. And right now really focusing on key issues like, you know, helping get our energy to
00:07:36.340 market, uh, giving people a voice to, to help fix immigration, holding the Ontario provincial
00:07:42.400 conservatives to account when they're not acting all that conservative. And so it's, uh, it's a big task
00:07:48.080 for all of us in the sort of common sense community and, and, and building sort of a big tent to, to
00:07:53.760 stand up for people who have, who have been let down by government, particularly the last 10 years
00:07:58.440 and, and proud of the work the NCC does proud to stand up for our supporters and really thrilled to,
00:08:04.520 to bring some of that, uh, influence here.
00:08:06.980 Well, that is excellent. And we're going to talk a little bit later in the show about immigration
00:08:10.800 because it's one of the areas that's in your wheelhouse and it's great to see, uh, someone else
00:08:15.220 talking about, you know, for years I was, I felt like I was the only one on political right. It was
00:08:18.920 constantly ringing the alarm bell about immigration and, you know, trying to blow a whistle on all the
00:08:23.620 many problems in the system. And so it's great to see you competently talking about those issues as
00:08:28.620 well, but I want to bring it back to prime minister Mark Kearney and how he's dealt with the, the, the,
00:08:35.320 the elephant in the room, which is president Trump, the tariffs and the trade deal, because, you know,
00:08:40.060 we were told that he was the Trump whisperer. He said during the campaign that he has had
00:08:44.900 experiences with president Trump, that he's negotiated with Trump, that he knows how to
00:08:48.520 negotiate with someone like Trump. And yet, I mean, I mean, what I've seen over the past six
00:08:53.240 weeks is just like a spectacular failing to even get in the same room as president Trump. Uh, it's,
00:08:59.140 it's humiliating, especially, you know, we, we learned that Trump announced a 90 day pause
00:09:03.220 for tariffs on Mexico. So Mexico is not going through this. It's just Canada. And rather than,
00:09:09.040 you know, trying to get on the same page with the Americans, trying to say, you know, we, we,
00:09:13.020 we believe that, uh, deindustrialization is a problem as well. We want to reindustrialize
00:09:17.700 North America. Let's do it together as a team. Um, instead, it seems to be alienating, uh, the
00:09:22.780 president, just like Justin Trudeau did before him. Uh, what, what do you make of all that?
00:09:27.500 It's incredibly frustrating because it ostensibly it's why they won the election,
00:09:31.920 that this is the steady hand. This is the guy you can count on. Here's the Trump whisperer. They,
00:09:36.460 they were buddy, buddy. They were the, he all but received an endorsement for Trump as the
00:09:41.540 preferred guy to work with. And that undercut, you know, years and years of progress on the
00:09:46.440 conservative side and pushed away all the concerns of, of, of many voters who, who perhaps
00:09:53.140 weren't lucky enough that Trump was their number one ballot issue. You can argue it's a, it was a
00:09:59.340 luxury belief because if you were struggling with housing, with, with crime in your area, with,
00:10:04.300 with healthcare needs, um, it, you know, pretty understandable that, you know, American trade
00:10:11.500 belligerence wouldn't be your number one issue. And so deeply frustrating to see that, you know,
00:10:17.360 we're not evidently getting anywhere. And then really frustrating to see that that might not matter
00:10:22.660 to a segment of the population, uh, who in some ways elbows up and the whole team Canada thing was,
00:10:30.020 was an excuse for them to, to run back the 10, you know, the last 10 years. And so we got to work
00:10:35.720 really hard to make sure that doesn't happen and, and to reach as many people to, to prevent that from
00:10:41.020 happening because elbows up, didn't work elbows down, hasn't worked. You know, they've, they've done
00:10:45.900 some smart things. Thanks to outrage from folks like us to, to, you know, get rid of things like the
00:10:51.240 digital services tax and some punitive measures, but, but now we're just hurting people. Like our
00:10:56.460 industries are just struggling. Like our, our, our tit for tat stuff isn't working and we still got
00:11:01.820 absolutely nowhere. So this can only be seen as a failure.
00:11:05.420 A hundred percent. And here is how Mark Kearney responded. He was, uh, in Vancouver at the pride
00:11:10.220 parade. And he said in response to us tariff hikes, he said that Canada is strong. We'll continue to try to
00:11:16.440 do something constructive with the Americans. Let's play that clip.
00:11:18.820 It's, uh, it's, uh, look, uh, Canada is strong. Uh, we can give ourselves far more than anyone can take
00:11:25.300 away. We're building this great country. I just met with the premier, uh, building BC, building
00:11:29.860 Canada, building in a Canadian way, uh, building sustainably, building together, building positively.
00:11:34.860 And that's what we're going to do. And yes, we will, uh, we'll come to something with the
00:11:38.360 Americans, something constructive with America. So this is, this is, you know, speaking of prime
00:11:42.960 minister, Stephen Harper, right. The steady hand, the economist, a competent leader. We were
00:11:47.420 promised that with Mark Kearney, we were promised that he, you know, he has a PhD in economics.
00:11:50.960 He's a central banker. He's a steady hand. And instead it seems to me, Alexander,
00:11:54.760 that we're getting something more like prime minister, Justin Trudeau, uh, flamboyantly at
00:11:59.560 a, at a pride parade. I don't know if they intentionally had this, but this picture really
00:12:03.580 went viral of Mark Kearney embracing a man in a pink thong. I, I, I just, I can't believe
00:12:12.220 that we are at a place in our world and our civilization where it would be appropriate for
00:12:17.380 the prime minister of a G seven nation, a former central banker, an economist, uh, to, to, to
00:12:23.980 be embracing, uh, physically touching, um, you know, a man that looks like he's about to
00:12:30.420 participate in some kind of a, I don't even want to say, but like, you know, like we're,
00:12:36.280 we're, we're celebrating public nudity and obscenity. Um, and you know, just unbelievable things,
00:12:44.820 not, not, not family friendly, um, for, for our audience. Uh, like how did, how, how did this
00:12:50.340 happen? And what did you make of that? Well, I was worried you were going to show that photo.
00:12:53.540 I'd kind of blocked it out from my memory after seeing it yesterday, but it's, I think it's
00:12:58.780 concerning that it just looks a whole lot like the last few years, because you have their failure to
00:13:05.880 acknowledge that that parade was already ground to a halt by a mob and by, uh, uh, offensive and,
00:13:14.060 and, uh, one that sort of pilloried our, our proud Jewish community. Uh, and yet you still have the 0.63
00:13:20.420 window dressing of hugging naked people. And you know, that's what the last guy did. That's what
00:13:25.240 the last guy did. And even in, in that interview before, where he's speaking in front of camera,
00:13:29.640 the guy who's standing behind him is the architect of the Vancouver housing crisis.
00:13:34.200 And he's proudly standing behind it. And that's the guy that he wants to be his trigger man for
00:13:40.140 evidently solving these generational crises. And so that seems a lot like a Trudeau esque
00:13:46.500 appointment. And then a day of Trudeau esque behaviors where, you know, I got no problem with
00:13:51.340 him, you know, marching in, in, in parades where, where folks are wearing clothes and everyone's,
00:13:56.840 you know, behaving themselves, but he's, he's doing the half naked thing. He took a picture with a guy
00:14:01.440 in like a, like a furry mask, which is, I'm glad most of your listeners won't know what this is,
00:14:06.320 but it's like a kind of fetish as well. And you're going, this guy is the political instincts
00:14:11.540 of a baked potato. Like he doesn't, he doesn't know how to act in public with these folks. Trudeau
00:14:16.200 was, would take pictures with, with every topless person he ever saw. And so, gee, if you're sitting
00:14:22.620 at home and you're frustrated and you feel like we're spinning our wheels, that's going to look
00:14:26.680 really familiar and not in a good way. Well, especially on the, you know, in the aftermath
00:14:32.520 of the trade failure and the spectacular fail of him to live up to his own image, we're going to get
00:14:38.720 to the blocking of the pride parades and the various intersectional feuds in just a second,
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00:15:34.600 you to Unsmoke for sponsoring today's episode. Okay, Alexander. So the pride madness continues 0.50
00:15:41.160 over at Pride. We showed how Carney hugged. I mean, I wonder if it's like maybe the people running his
00:15:47.180 advance, maybe his comms team are like the same people held over from Trudeau and they didn't really
00:15:50.980 get the memo that the new guy doesn't want to do the same kind of creepy, gross stuff that the old
00:15:55.420 guy did, or, you know, maybe he just couldn't help it. But there was also a cloud of controversy among
00:16:01.800 these pride praises here. We've seen some past years, but it seems like it has heated up. So we saw
00:16:06.780 anti-Israel protesters block the pride parade. And this is the problem with the various coalition of
00:16:13.820 the extreme left is that they don't all get along. They don't all agree with each other. They don't all
00:16:18.440 believe in the same stuff. And for these people, the anti-Israel, the pro-Hommasnic crowd, every issue 0.58
00:16:24.320 has to be about them. They have to put themselves in the center. And so here we saw some great reporting
00:16:29.300 by the Western Standard. This is not solidarity. Anti-Israel demonstrators clash and blocked the
00:16:36.560 Vancouver pride parade. So for the second year in a row, anti-Israel demonstrators blocked the Vancouver
00:16:41.020 pride parade, bringing the fun and festivities to a grinding halt. Demonstrators stopped on Pacific
00:16:47.160 Street, placing a banner, no pride in genocide on the road. The group faced backlash for members of
00:16:51.960 the crowd and eventually kept moving. And you saw one exchange where two people were just yelling at
00:16:56.440 each other like, hey, this is our event. This is our, you know, event that we have to celebrate our
00:17:01.720 homosexuality and pride and openness, whatever else. And shame on you for trying to make every 0.98
00:17:06.840 single thing about Palestine and Hamas. Let's play that clip.
00:17:10.680 March with us. You didn't stop you from marching in a parade, but you're blocking us from our parade.
00:17:18.120 You never stopped you from participating, but you're blocking us now. Shame on all of you.
00:17:24.280 You say the word solidarity. That is not solidarity. You're just showing you're bullying. Bullying.
00:17:30.200 I mean, I'm not going to disagree. I'm not going to sit here and take one side or the other either.
00:17:35.640 I find it amusing. Both these sides love to push your ideologies in our face. Both sides act like
00:17:41.720 bullies a lot of the time. But it was interesting to see someone calling out that behavior. What did
00:17:46.840 you make of it, Alexander? Yeah, it's I mean, I think it just tells you and because Toronto had a similar
00:17:52.360 issue with sort of what some of these parades have morphed into when you have all these different
00:17:57.480 special interests and often federally subsidized special interests that become these kind of
00:18:03.080 radical groups, which is, you know, they the last few years, they started to see these blockades
00:18:08.360 on on the parade line, which which had never happened before. Like Pride in Toronto was always
00:18:12.760 like a pretty cohesive, you know, well run thing. And then I think it was like the BLM summers that they 0.69
00:18:18.360 started grinding to a halt. And then all these other activists don't know what to do because it's you
00:18:23.000 know, you don't want to get yourself canceled because it's a real, you know, sort of trap,
00:18:28.280 you know, because it's a high wire act, right? It's a high wire act. They've limited their language
00:18:32.040 so much. And they're supposed to be these professional solidarity folks.
00:18:35.800 Well, they all believe in being allies, right? And they all want others to be allies. And it's
00:18:40.440 funny that you mentioned Toronto, because remember, during BLM, they banned police officers from attending.
00:18:45.800 And it was, I think it was Chicago that invited Toronto police down because, you know,
00:18:51.720 these are people that might want to participate in something like this. And the fact that you don't
00:18:55.720 have police, and then, you know, a blockade happens. Well, I don't feel bad that the police
00:18:59.720 aren't there to help out when you ban them from attending your your parade, all the all the ACAB
00:19:05.000 people hate cops until someone breaks into their house, and they actually need them, you know, like,
00:19:09.160 it's there's no activist in a foxhole. And so it's really disappointing that it's, you know,
00:19:14.600 there's, again, this, like, permissibility thing they've granted themselves, where it's like,
00:19:19.080 where these were these equity folks, we we are just professionally aggrieved about all the world's
00:19:24.200 issues. And like, we can't stay over the target on like, the one thing that is supposed to really
00:19:28.920 matter to us. But it's okay, if we, you know, if we discriminate against Jewish Canadians, or against,
00:19:34.680 you know, whichever group that, you know, doesn't have this sort of permission slip in the moment.
00:19:41.720 And it's, it's not what it's supposed to be about. Like, it's, it's, it, it was supposed to be
00:19:46.040 about this kind of first, second wave, you know, let's have equal rights, and that's great, and we
00:19:52.680 should. And, you know, it's all come together and have a happy day. And now it is just about this,
00:19:59.240 it's a degree of indulgence, and a degree of vanity, in a sense, where it's just,
00:20:06.520 just every problem imaginable, and every real or perceived disability or disadvantage imaginable,
00:20:13.240 when it is, it was principally about everyone just kind of like being strong together. And now
00:20:17.480 it's just about like, what grievance can I use to, to gain more social clout over you? And that's not
00:20:25.160 good for anybody. And it's, it's certainly not good for Canadian society.
00:20:29.000 Well, and this is happening. I mean, here it is, Pride Montreal, or Ferté Montreal,
00:20:33.400 also banned Jewish groups from participating in the march. So two Jewish groups said they've been
00:20:38.440 excluded from participating in Montreal's upcoming Pride Parade next Sunday, the Jewish LGBTQ plus 1.00
00:20:44.520 group in Quebec and the Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs, a large public political,
00:20:48.840 community political organization. So they were informed by the organizers that they would be barred
00:20:53.080 from attending a public statement from Ferté Montreal published later in the day,
00:20:58.120 does not name either group, but explain that the festival's board of directors had made the decision
00:21:03.000 to deny participation in the Pride Parade to organizations spreading hateful discourse.
00:21:08.520 So I guess just being Jewish is now a hate crime. I don't know.
00:21:13.480 Yeah. Because that hateful discourse, especially if you looked at these groups in the, in the windows
00:21:18.040 of permissible speech, they're even allowed to operate within some of that self-inflicted,
00:21:23.000 it would be like, Hey, we don't agree with everything. Like our, the Israeli government is doing
00:21:27.720 that's word Jewish Canadians. Let's have a nice day together. And that still wouldn't be enough. 1.00
00:21:32.840 That would still be hateful discourse, which kind of gives away that it's like,
00:21:37.000 Oh no, it's just antisemitism. Like, it's just what it is. We've seen it before. It's one of the
00:21:41.080 world's great ugly phenomenons. It, it, it, you know, it's ugly head rears itself every, every decade 0.97
00:21:48.440 or so. And we're sadly going through it again because no, these groups are, they do walk the
00:21:53.480 high wire act. They get, they get funding. They, they, they, they say all the right things. They're,
00:21:59.320 they're very progressive and they're, you know, friends to all and welcoming and, and that,
00:22:05.000 that isn't even enough tells you absolutely everything. Yeah. Part of the problem. And I
00:22:10.760 know you've talked about this before Alexander is that when you come to Canada, you're kind of
00:22:15.560 expected. I mean, I think that like the history of Canada is you come, you integrate, you assimilate,
00:22:20.600 you become Canadian and more and more people who come to Canada are not given that message at all.
00:22:25.400 And instead they're told to just sort of remain exactly as they are. And so you have the Palestinian 1.00
00:22:30.520 special interests and Arabs where their number one issue, like ahead of any issue in Canada,
00:22:34.920 their number one issue is about a foreign conflict. One of the many problems with immigration. I want 1.00
00:22:40.520 to talk to you about this story that came out from Juneau news last week, temporary foreign workers
00:22:45.400 now account for 19% of the private sector economy. So one in five workers in the private sector is now
00:22:54.280 not even a permanent resident, not even on track to become a citizen, just someone who's here
00:22:59.720 temporarily to, I don't know, provide cheap labor for large corporations or other groups that want
00:23:06.280 that kind of worker in. And I mean, it's just, it's just totally wild that that is the priority.
00:23:11.720 That is a way that we are organizing our economy. What did you make of the story?
00:23:15.640 Yeah, it's, it's, we've never seen anything like it and on not sorry for, for Juneau, I've got a big
00:23:21.320 guest this week. I'm excited to share that episode and we're going to really be going into that. But
00:23:25.720 for example, like my wife and I, we were on the sunshine coast of British Columbia this weekend.
00:23:30.680 We live in Vancouver and we were up in Gibson's and, and went further up the coast and out there
00:23:36.840 because it's hard to get to, there's not some big highway. There's a barrier to entry to things like
00:23:41.080 the TFW program. And, you know, let's be real, a litany of fake schools. They just don't exist out
00:23:46.520 there. And so you actually saw local kids, local 20 somethings, local 30 somethings working in the
00:23:53.160 jobs that they've always been able to work in before. And you come back to Vancouver,
00:23:57.880 you go to Toronto, you, you go to Calgary, Edmonton, that doesn't exist anymore. And then
00:24:03.400 we turn around, we see that 19% stat we see in cities like Toronto, youth unemployment right now
00:24:08.840 is estimated to be around 20%. It's probably higher. And we're failing to launch these kids. They're at risk
00:24:17.320 of not getting that foot in the door, not getting these sort of seminal experiences
00:24:22.680 that they need to develop confidence, to, to, to be part of a team, to, to break out of the bubble,
00:24:29.480 to, to, especially with the, the rise of technology and the fight for every second of their attention
00:24:35.240 span. It's like, they need to be out there and they need to be working. And the worry is, is they're
00:24:39.960 not. And unless we, we hold these sort of TFWP abusers to account and really like force the, the
00:24:48.280 government to, to stick to its apparent claims that it wants to revise targets and do a bit of a better
00:24:54.120 job, we're going to lose hundreds of thousands of kids just off the bat who are going to just be
00:25:00.600 spinning their wheels and miss these key years. And then we're going to turn around and wonder why we have
00:25:05.400 even more problems. And then the only solution to that for these companies, and if it's a liberal
00:25:10.600 government will be like, well, then let's bring in even more temporary foreign workers. It's like, 0.67
00:25:14.280 it's a vicious cycle. Right. And here, uh, earlier this summer in the financial post,
00:25:18.920 Canada's youth job market slumps among world's major economies. So young Canadians are facing a
00:25:23.480 labor market that has deteriorated faster than in any other major advanced economy. So you can't just
00:25:28.600 shrug your shoulders and say, this is a global phenomenon. It isn't, it is particularly pronounced in
00:25:33.480 Canada. Just check out this chart, Canada's youth unemployment up sharply in two years. That pink 1.00
00:25:39.400 line folks, that's Canada way above the, uh, the trend of other advanced wealthy nations and the OACD
00:25:47.160 average. Um, this is a problem in Canada. Yes, it's a problem in other countries as well, but it's worse
00:25:52.360 in Canada. And Alex, I want to talk to you about this surge in illegal asylum seekers, illegal border
00:25:58.600 crossers. They cross into the country. They're not supposed to, right? They come from the United 1.00
00:26:02.440 States, which is a safe country. And as the safe third country agreement lays out, if you, if you're
00:26:07.400 actually a refugee, you'll declare refugee status in the first safe country you arrive in. They don't 1.00
00:26:11.880 do that. They come across an unmanned border. And here is a story. Quebec border crossing sees a 277
00:26:18.520 percent surge in asylum claims. Um, data from CBSA shows over 10,000 asylum claims at one port of entry
00:26:27.080 as of July 27th, more than double, um, in the same period in 2024. So I thought this problem was solved.
00:26:33.240 Turns out it, it, it hasn't, it's worse than ever. Uh, what do you think?
00:26:37.800 Yeah, it just wasn't, you know, there wasn't covered the way it should have by the, the legacy press
00:26:43.760 where it's, you know, the independents have been a massive Juno news has always done great reporting
00:26:47.700 on this and, and formerly true North and a friend of mine, Cosman, who, who does great work with you is,
00:26:53.440 is always on that beat, but even more troubling in, in that number, in that asylum claim number.
00:27:00.720 And I've got another stat for you just off the top of my head, just from covering this stuff,
00:27:04.040 which is like one in 88 of all people in Canada now are, are considered like asylum seekers or like
00:27:11.380 through asylum of the last few years is that inland asylum claims have jumped. So you have these
00:27:19.000 3 million temporary residents now. And we wonder why rent and has gone up and healthcare is, is
00:27:25.680 overstretched, but they're, you know, their visa is expiring and they're turning around and going
00:27:31.160 like, Oh wait, actually, um, the family farm back home. Like I'm being persecuted back there.
00:27:37.480 Even though like my parents sent me over here with money to go to what is largely considered a fake
00:27:42.020 school to like cut, like a cut the corner to a PR. And look, there's some really great people who've
00:27:47.100 come. There's, there's no way around that, but there's also been a scam network and a scam network
00:27:51.160 predominantly run through these really dodgy institutions that have popped up across the
00:27:55.240 country. But now we have hundreds of thousands of, of what looked like fraudulent asylum claims
00:28:02.000 coming from inside the country, from people on expiring visas. And like, we have to start saying
00:28:07.680 no to that stuff. And the fact that that number even coming across the Quebec border is that bad,
00:28:12.520 you know, put all those together and we have a recipe for disaster. If we're not going to take
00:28:17.200 our border seriously and a country, if it is to be a country has to take its border seriously.
00:28:23.440 Well, it's wild that people come to Canada on a, on a temporary visa and then rather than leaving,
00:28:28.480 they just pretend to be an asylum claimant. And there's so many ridiculous rules. Like I was reading 0.71
00:28:32.460 about this the other day, um, that while people have pending asylum claims saying that they're
00:28:36.400 persecuted in their country of origin, sometimes they go back, they're allowed to go back and like
00:28:40.100 visit family and go on vacation. Yeah, they go back for Christmas. And so how persecuted are you?
00:28:44.260 Exactly. This is, this was a big story maybe a decade ago. I don't know if you're paying attention
00:28:47.460 to politics back then, Alexander, but Mary Amonsef, who was a minister in Justin Trudeau's government
00:28:51.600 was in this situation, right? She claimed to have been born in Afghanistan, turned out she was born in
00:28:56.520 Iran and she would frequently go back and go on vacation and go visit family in both Afghanistan
00:29:01.660 and Iran. And I just wonder like, how can you be a persecuted person? How can you claim with a
00:29:06.220 straight face? And how can a judge agree with you that you would be persecuted? You would, you have
00:29:10.140 a, uh, you know, a well-founded belief in persecution. If you can just literally go back
00:29:15.100 and visit family and go on vacation, like to me, those two things don't connect at all.
00:29:19.880 Yeah. If you're going back for your birthday and, uh, you know, someone's grandma is, is turning a
00:29:25.080 hundred, some big, beautiful centennial. It just, it, it's a system that's just being taken
00:29:30.280 advantage of. And whether this was like a willful ignorance thing, or we thought in our good nature
00:29:35.960 that no one would ever just completely hoodwink us. Well, there's like a cold reality of like the
00:29:43.040 modern era, which is, there is an industrial complex of scammers and scumbags and these sort 0.95
00:29:50.740 of military aged males, the world over who are giving Europe a hard time as well, that want to take 0.99
00:29:57.260 advantage of your potential kindly nature or your willful ignorance. And so it's, it's, we have to
00:30:04.640 adjust. Like, I don't want to be having these conversations in August. I just want like a,
00:30:08.880 it's supposed to be a wonderful, relaxing summer, but we have a country like that just keeps cutting
00:30:13.700 itself off at the knees. Like we talk about Trump, you know, and, and, and some of the problems he's
00:30:19.520 given us these days, but like no one gives Canada bigger problems than Canada. And like, if we're not
00:30:24.780 even going to be serious about real asylum claims and there are real asylum claims and they're good
00:30:30.720 people who are in tough situations that like would be happy to integrate and we could do right by
00:30:35.620 instead, we're just letting everyone in. They all were going to these hotels and in, in like places
00:30:40.320 like Etobicoke and we were giving them cash and they were doing next to absolutely nothing. And then
00:30:45.880 Ontario premier Doug Ford almost made matters worse by saying, I'm going to just give them all jobs
00:30:50.680 during a youth unemployment crisis in Ontario. I saw that. And it's, it's truly unbelievable. I
00:30:55.920 mean, we reported this at Juneau news, $2.6 billion just spent on hotels for asylum seekers. We had
00:31:02.680 another big story about how the majority, uh, 64% of immigrants are not paying their bill
00:31:08.680 on a government loan. Governments were handing out zero interest loans. People are not even bothering,
00:31:13.840 uh, to make the payments. This is just the tip of the iceberg, Alexander, which is why we're so
00:31:17.660 pleased to have you, uh, part of Juneau news and bringing these reports, uh, to our audience
00:31:22.040 folks, check out Alexander Brown's new show, not sorry here on Juneau news. Thank you so
00:31:26.360 much for joining us today. Hey, thanks for having me. I'm really excited for our episode
00:31:30.160 this week and a big fan and, uh, look forward to, uh, to hearing more. All right. Thank you
00:31:35.480 so much. And focus all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll
00:31:38.360 be back again tomorrow with all the news. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm
00:31:41.380 show. Thank you. And God bless.
00:31:47.660 Thank you.
00:31:48.660 Thank you.