Mark Carney PLAGIARIZED his Oxford Thesis： Report (Ft. Northern Perspective)
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Candice is joined by the Northern Perspective's Ryan and Tanya to discuss Mark Carney's latest plagiarism accusation, Donald Trump's latest tariff threat, and why Pierre Polyvenc has momentum in the race.
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.
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We're going to talk about Mark Carney and the latest accusation of him being basically
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This time, he's being accused of plagiarizing his Oxford thesis while in university, while
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Over in the UK, we're going to talk about Donald Trump and the latest tariff threat,
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which frankly, folks, I think is nothing but fake news.
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And we're going to end the show talking about Pierre Polyev and his policy announcements
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I am very excited today to be joined by some of my favorite political commenters in Canada.
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They used to come on the show quite frequently.
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Very pleased to be joined by the Northern Perspective couple, Ryan and Tanya.
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Well, I haven't talked to you guys in quite a while, so I want to know, how do you feel
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I think that Pierre Polyev has incredible momentum.
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He was here in Hamilton the other night, and we went to a rally where there was over 5,000
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We heard that he had upwards of 8,000 people trying to get in at the rally in North York
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a few days before that, and then he had a rally in BC, I think it was last night, that had
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I just don't think that Mark Carney is getting those kinds of numbers.
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Well, Mark Carney certainly doesn't have the sort of charisma and the natural talents as
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Also, seeing him door knocking in the way that he has that sort of interpersonal skills,
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he really is stepping up and painting a very positive vision for Canada.
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Honestly, when I watch some of his videos, I feel inspired.
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And usually political commentators like myself and probably like you two, you get a little
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jaded, and you don't really feel inspired by political messages.
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But I find that Pierre is really hitting the mark.
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Yeah, so one of the things that we did recently is we went back to the 1984 leadership debate
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during that election between Brian Mulrooney and John Turner.
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And people have their opinion on the results of the election and what Brian Mulrooney did
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But in terms of the messaging during that election, we reviewed that right before the election was
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And we'd remarked on the fact that the messaging coming from Brian Mulrooney was very positive.
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It was still somewhat critical of John Turner, but not overly so.
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And he didn't go into name calling or anything like that.
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And we had said that this is the messaging that Pierre needs to pivot to if he wants to really
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He transitioned from official leader of the opposition to prime ministerial candidate in
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And it was the exact same style where he was talking about the failings of the liberals.
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He was talking about the failings of Mark Carney, but not in such a way that would turn off
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And then he spent the rest of his time really hammering out that hopeful message in a way
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that, you know, you really felt energized at the end of it.
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And that's the messaging that has been put out by the conservatives throughout this campaign.
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And it's really starting to resonate with people across the country.
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And I think that's evident in the rally numbers.
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It's interesting because the liberals love to accuse the conservatives of being negative
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And yet, objectively, in this campaign, what I do, I totally agree with you that
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Poliev was very talented at pointing out Trudeau's flaws.
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But since this campaign has already sort of risen above the fray, and he does keep things
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And what I've seen more and more from Mark Carney is this sort of like cheap shots.
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It's almost out of character for Mark Carney because he does seem like a very classy, accomplished
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But then it's like someone's telling him to go after Poliev, and he's doing it in such
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I want to talk about this scandal that broke in the National Post this morning, a huge explosive
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It says, exclusive, Mark Carney faces plagiarism accusations for his 1995 Oxford doctoral thesis.
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And here we have Catherine Levesque going through it in detail, pointing out how there have been
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three academics that have reviewed his thesis, and they have some serious problems with the
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Several instances being pointed out of Carney quoting other people's work verbatim, line
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by line, but without quotations and without sources, which is, I mean, that is plagiarism.
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That is textbook plagiarism, and to see it over and over and over it.
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So let me just read a little bit from the National Post here.
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It says, the National Post obtained a copy of Carney's 1995 thesis for his doctorate in
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economics from Oxford University titled The Dynamic Advantage of Competition.
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It shows 10 instances of apparent plagiarism, according to the judgment of three university
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In several sections of the thesis, Carney used full quotes, paraphrases, or slightly modified
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quotes from four previous works without proper acknowledgement or attribution.
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And so this is a big no-no in the academic world.
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Like, I remember back to being a university student, and I can't tell you how many times
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my advisor or the dean of the school or the head of the department would come and talk to
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students, you know, talk to the class about the importance of not plagiarizing.
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Like, in the academic world, this is just the absolute no-no.
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And the fact that he apparently did this back then, you know, we just lived through several
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examples in the United States of high-profile people being accused of plagiarism.
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And I think it just shows a lot about Mark Carney's character, that he would be willing to pass
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So, whatever you think is going to happen in the future, you can invest in it at Wealthsimple.
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For his own, it's sort of reminiscent of some of the things that he's done on the campaign
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so far, taking credit for saving Canada from the 2008 financial crisis, even though he was
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And it was obviously the Finance Minister, Jim Flaherty, and the Prime Minister, Stephen
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Harper, who had to make all the tough decisions.
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He also claimed that he helped Paul Martin balance the budget, even though records show that
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he wasn't involved in the government at all in the 90s when Paul Martin was the Finance
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I think the important thing behind this story, at least what it implies, is that if he plagiarized
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his doctoral thesis, then does that mean he didn't earn his doctorate?
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I guess that's the question that we have to ask, because as you said, plagiarizing is
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a huge issue within the academic world, and you can't do that.
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So then, if you plagiarize the thesis that your doctorate is built on, what does that imply
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I mean, I think it could have major career ramifications, and I don't know if you can
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go back and have it revoked, have your doctorate revoked.
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I don't know if these accusations are serious enough to warrant that.
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I think it would probably require a much deeper academic review, but it seriously puts those
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Yeah, and there are cases where doctors have been revoked in those situations.
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I know in the article that the person that was overseeing his doctorate defended him,
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I don't know if they've actually read the cases that have been cited, because it's very,
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very blatant in terms of the passages that they're talking about.
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And I think what it demonstrates is that even back then, Mark Carney thought he was smarter
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He thought everybody else was just a stepping stone for him, that he would step on the heads
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of other people in order so he could reach higher up in society.
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And in our video, we raise the question, does he get that job at Goldman Sachs if he actually
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And if he didn't get the job at Goldman Sachs, does he then become governor of Bank of Canada
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Oh, no, we would never have made it out of the 2008 financial crisis if Mark Carney didn't
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actually become governor of Bank of Canada, so he would have us believe.
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But it really gives us a glimpse into the character and the business practices of this guy who doesn't
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seem to be bothered that he can take credit for other people's accomplishments, take credit
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How many other situations in his career has he done that and made millions, if not billions
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of dollars for himself and his companies that he's been involved with?
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So now you see him on the campaign trail plagiarizing the entire conservative campaign.
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Now, politicians have done this throughout many instances.
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But in this case, it's even more egregious because the Liberal Party themselves have
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been literally criticizing and demonizing the conservatives for the past two years just
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on the carbon tax alone, that if you don't agree with the carbon tax, you are a climate
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denier, you hate the environment, you're going to burn the planet.
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And the first thing that they do in their announcement is, by the way, we're getting rid of the carbon
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And all the things that we said before, don't worry, because Trump's here.
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And I think, Ryan, just to touch on something you said, that this is based on hubris and
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ego, like arrogance, the fact that he thinks that he's smarter than everyone and he wouldn't
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Okay, to go back to myself, I wrote a thesis for my master's degree, right?
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And it isn't that hard to just put quotes around something that you're getting from
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someone else and put a citation at the bottom, right?
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You are allowed to quote other people to your heart's content in a thesis.
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Every single page can include dozens of quotes from other people's works.
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All you have to do is just add a couple of punctuation marks and the footnote, like you
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And so it just seems almost lazy to me that someone would do this.
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It's like, yes, they have to be arrogant to believe they can get away with it.
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I just want to go through for the audience a couple of examples here.
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So as you can see right here, this is from a, so you can see on the screen over top of
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So the first line is what he took from another person's work.
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So a 1990 paper by someone with the name Porter writes, first, government intervention can impede
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international competition and artificially support domestic profits.
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And you can see word for word, verbatim, Carney had that in his own thesis.
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Again, how hard is it to just put quotes around it and a footnote?
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And then again, here it is again, another one by the same person, Porter in a 1990 paper.
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And it says, you can see, you know, line by line, second in an industry or economy.
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Here's another, a third example, social norms, values, and affect the nature of home demand.
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And you can see just over and over again, there's 10 of these examples where he just
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uses the exact same phrase from someone else's paper.
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You know, in 1995, maybe the internet wasn't as readily available and we didn't have AI
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tools that could easily find this kind of thing.
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He wasn't expecting technology to catch up this way.
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But these kinds of things have a way of catching up to you and really hitting an opportune time
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Sorry, Ryan, to go back to what you were saying.
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And the other thing that it calls into question, this is where it'd be really interesting to
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understand the complete context of the paper, because if, if he is not quoting and plagiarizing
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these specific ideas, my question to the three professors that have reviewed this is in terms
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of the, the content that he wrote before and after this is all of that content prefaced on
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these, these plagiarized passages, because if so, then potentially none of this is his idea
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And it calls the entire, the entire paper into question.
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He, he, he forgot to, forgot to, um, cite specific passages in a paper that was written,
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Well, it matters because a, a thesis is supposed to be your idea.
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The citations are supposed to be passages that support what you're trying to say.
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Um, I, I went to school for philosophy and I'll wait for everybody to make their jokes
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But, um, when it comes to philosophy, that's all you're writing is, is, is papers and you
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So if all I'm doing is taking ideas from other people, five or six different sources, and then
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stitching them together and passing it off on as my own, that's not my work.
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That's everybody else's work, no matter how I write it.
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Well, he seems to have a history of taking credit for other people's work.
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Like all of the career success that he has had based on getting this doctorate degree,
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being an Oxford graduate, being a scholar, being a very bright, intelligent man.
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I mean, this does call it all into question, you know, would he have gotten the job at Goldman
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Well, we don't know, but if he had had a PhD and then had it revoked for plagiarism, uh,
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I bet very much that he would not have become the governor of the Bank of Canada or the
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Yeah, I, I mean, we can't go based off what could have happened or should have happened,
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But it's probably a good supposition that, again, if you're disgraced by having your
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doctorate revoked, I don't think you're going to be getting those prestigious jobs.
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Exactly. Okay. I want to move on. This is, this is a story that I almost think I would
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sum up as fake news Friday because the media just want to attach this storyline that Donald
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Trump is somehow the greatest enemy that is ever known to Canadians and that he is trying
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to destroy us as a country. So anytime they have the opportunity to insert him back into
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the campaign, they will. I'm reluctant to even talk about it, but obviously it is a big
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story in the news. So I'll cover it with the asterisk that I think it's fake news.
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And I will explain why in a moment, but the story out of CBC news, um, this week and big
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story yesterday was that Trump is going ahead with the 25% tariffs on auto. Um, here we have
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a clip of president Trump in the Oval Office talking about this 25% tariff that will be applied
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on all finished vehicles imported into the United States starting on April 3rd. Let's play that clip.
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What we're going to be doing is a 25% tariff on all cars that are not made in the
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United States. If they're made in the United States, there's absolutely no tariff. We started
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off with a two and a half percent base, which is what we were at. And we go to 25%. And basically,
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as you know, and as you've been seeing, not reporting as accurately as it should be reported
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because it's a massive story. Uh, business is coming back to the United States.
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Okay. So one of the things that's quite clear there is he says that the tariffs apply, um,
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on imported vehicles in the United States, obviously vehicles made in the United States
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would not be subject to this tariff. And if you go on to the White House website, there
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is a fact sheet on there. And I'm going to fact check the storyline that says that this
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is a huge tax on Canadians and that we have to insert Trump back into the center of the campaign.
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If you go to this fact sheet, it says right here that importers of automobiles under the
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Canada, Mexico, United States agreement, sorry, the United States, Mexico, Canada agreement,
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the UM, US MCA agreement will be given the opportunity to certify their US content and
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systems will be implemented such that 25% tariff will not apply on the value of the US content.
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Then it also says the US MCA compliant automobile parts will remain tariff free until the secretary
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of commerce in consultation with the US border protection establishes a process to apply tariffs
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to the non-US content. So Trump isn't even saying that all of the cars that come from Canada
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and the United States will be taxed. He's just saying that the portion, because as we know,
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the, the, the, the manufacturing corridor is such that an automobile will be made in part
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in the US and part in Canada, parts will go back and forth across the border as much as
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like a dozen times before the piece is complete. And so there's going to be a formula that exempts
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the American parts. And so it'll only be a portion. So it's not like they're slapping
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a 25% tax on all cars. It's just a portion of the cars that come from Canada. And there's
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going to be an exemption possibly for US MCA, uh, uh, parts that have been made in Canada.
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So again, I think that the media is blowing this all out of proportion because they know
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that liberal voters, left wing voters and baby boomers, particularly voters over 60 are
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very worried about Trump. And this is a very motivating factor for them. So I think that
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the media is inserting this into the election to try to derail the conservatives and peer
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Yeah, it's, it's very disappointing to see how the mainstream media is jumping on this.
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It seems that whenever peer poly of makes a very good policy announcement, all of a sudden,
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they will come up with a major Trump story to try and distract from it. And this is a prime
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example, because if a, you know, if Ford sends a part up to Canada, uh, and then Canada does
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something with it, and then it sends it back, um, by this definition, that doesn't seem to be
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subject to this tariff because a, the original part came from the United States, Canada worked
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on it and then it came back. And, and I think a lot of Canadians that aren't involved in the
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auto sector, they may not, they may know anecdotally, yes, they're, you know, they're
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very integrated, but they may not know how much they are integrated. Like parts are constantly
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moving between factories across the border, back and forth. Um, like, it's not like, you
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know, half the car is made in the U S and then they ship it up to Canada and then the other
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half is built and then it's done. That's not how it works. Um, it's, they, they treat
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it as if there's no border at all. And they're just, you know, sending it down the road to
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the next factory in order to actually build the rest of this. So, um, the majority of,
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of the car isn't even going to be subject to the tariff. But if you listen to Mark Carney,
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hundreds of thousands of people are going to lose their jobs. And the media is just picking
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this up and running with it. It's, it's actually disgrace that they are fear-mongering this
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badly. They are amping up the anxiety for these Canadians and it's completely unnecessary
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and it's completely fictitious. Well, speaking of amping up the fear, uh, I think that Mark
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Carney really went over the top. Uh, this is how he was responding. Speaking at a press conference
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in Ottawa, he said that Canada's relationship with the United States as we know it is over.
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Uh, let me play that clip. The old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening
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integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperations is over.
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Seems a little dramatic. What do you think, Tanya?
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Yeah, absolutely. We, uh, actually commented on this video recently and, uh, we were appalled.
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Uh, Mark Carney is the head of the Liberal Party and therefore the Prime Minister right now,
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but he doesn't have a seat in the House of Commons. So he's what's considered a caretaker
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prime minister. And for somebody who's supposed to be a caretaker, he's not doing a very good job
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of taking care of our relationship with the United States. After making a comment like that,
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um, you know, he hasn't been down to the States to visit with Trump. It sounds like
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the office of President Trump had tried to contact the prime minister's office and, and was told,
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well, we'll talk to you later kind of thing. Um, he doesn't really seem too intent to repair
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that relationship or help foster that relationship. Um, it, he really is trying to make Trump out to
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be the boogeyman. Well, and the reason for that is because that's the only way that the liberals are
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going to be able to try to win this election. And they know it. The only reason that, that, um,
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you know, the election is allegedly as close as it is, if you believe the polls is because they are
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scaring the bejesus out of everybody, um, or trying to, in regards to the, uh, in, in guard,
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in regards to Trump. Now, you know, we've, we've said on record, we don't believe, uh, or we don't
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agree with a lot of what Trump does, but is he the existential threat to, to Canada? No. And neither
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is the United States and neither are Americans, which all Carney seems to be saying, talking about
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division and fear is, well, we need to stand up to the Americans. I'm sorry, but the majority of
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Americans are wonderful people. They are, you know, our neighbors. We we've enjoyed a long and
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fruitful relationship. This is the, um, the most secure and prosperous relationship in world history.
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Um, when it comes to two nations working side by side and for him to come out and say that he's
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essentially implying that our alliance with the United States is over. Okay. What does that
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mean if tomorrow China decides to send a bunch of drones or a bunch of troops over the Arctic?
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Does that mean the U S is going to look at what Carney said and said, well, you, you said
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you don't need our help anymore. Well, and further to that, um, the, hold on, sorry. I lost my
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train of thought. Well, let me just jump in there because one of the things that, uh, we did a deep
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dive on earlier in the week is this idea that Carney does have this affection towards China. He does
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have this relationship, this friendship, you know, the news broke, I believe it was from the CBC
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that he took, uh, that after he became Trudeau's advisor, his company took a $274 million loan from
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the state bank of China. And there was also a report from 2024 where he talked about how he wanted the
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Chinese UN to be the global reserve currency. He said it already was a global reserve currency,
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and that is a good thing. And so when you think about the world that we live in and, you know,
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if he wants to move past the relationship with the United States, you know, we, we, we've benefited
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from a incredibly secure and peaceful time in human history because America has been the superpower,
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the sole superpower. And this idea that we should turn our backs on America, pivot towards China. I
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mean, China does not share our values. Let's just put it that way. And this idea that he believes that
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their green economy, that their, um, you know, willingness to play along with a lot of his sort
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of net zero carbon fund ideas and initiatives is, um, is a, is a fact that we should be aligning
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ourselves. I don't think most Canadians think about that. I don't think most Canadians would agree if
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you were to ask, even the sort of elbows up crowd. I, I mean, I give a hard time to the older boomers.
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I know a lot of our viewers are boomers. I don't think they're all bad. I think most of them are
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incredibly wonderful, hardworking people, but the people who have fallen for this line that
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America is an existential threat to Canada and that we have to turn our backs to them, like
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take the proposition. Would you rather be closely aligned with the United States who shares our
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values, who we've had this peaceful relationship for since the beginning of our country, or would you
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rather have a relationship and be closer aligned and be giving away our sovereignty to China? I don't
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think that most Canadians would choose China. I don't think any would. And the fact that Mark
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Carney speaks warmly about China to me is almost disqualifying. Uh, Tanya, what do you think?
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Yeah, I, I agree with you completely, Candace. Um, as you said, China does not share our values. Um,
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they do not share our Western values and they don't share our democratic values. I personally would
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rather be aligned with the United States who has been our friend for many, many years. And we have
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grown our countries together, our economies. And, you know, we've really flourished together as partners
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instead of just turning our back on the States and going and buddying up with China. I know many
00:24:54.200
Canadians do not like Donald Trump as a president and that's fine, but I don't think that we need to
00:24:59.760
throw the baby out with the bathwater. Well, just to, uh, to turn it around, we didn't have,
00:25:04.740
you know, all of the conservative voters saying that, you know, Joe Biden was an existential threat
00:25:09.960
to the United States and that, you know, we need to break off. And then, you know, people on the
00:25:14.720
other side would say, well, he never threatened to annex, uh, Canada. And I would say, neither did
00:25:18.740
Trump. That was a joke because he was pointing, you know, uh, he was humiliating Trudeau because all
00:25:24.180
Trudeau and his government was doing for the last four years is trash talking a former president of the
00:25:28.020
United States in the house of commons. What do you expect to happen? Um, and as for, as for China,
00:25:34.780
the, the issue is that the vast majority of Canadians don't, don't seem to know how much of
00:25:40.020
a disregard for our way of life and our democracy that China actually has. They have been working
00:25:46.060
to undermine our democracy for over 25 years. They started in British Columbia. They've been
00:25:52.280
bankrolling underground casinos to try to manipulate the diaspora community. People who've
00:25:57.960
tried to escape China and come here, they're trying to, um, position themselves to annex Taiwan
00:26:04.100
in the middle of everything going on over in Asia. They're telling the Philippine government to stay
00:26:10.060
out of it, to let them like, like there is so many things that, that are going on that Canadians are
00:26:14.880
just not aware of because CBC, CTV, global, uh, global mail, all of these, uh, mainstream media,
00:26:22.140
let's, they've just fallen prey to, well, what do we need to do in order to get Mark Carney
00:26:27.720
elected so we can continue to receive our government handout of 1.3 billion to the CBC
00:26:33.540
and 800 million to the rest of the media? It's so short-sighted and it's so disappointing. I want
00:26:38.360
to move on to this story that I did a deep dive on earlier this morning. The video is up on YouTube
00:26:42.800
and you can find the article on Juno News. The Eurasian group president, Ian Bremmer, wrote an
00:26:48.940
article where he said that he predicts that Canada will quietly fold to the Americans after the election
00:26:55.440
campaign. Okay. So why does this matter? Ian Bremmer is the head of the Eurasia group. And if the
00:27:01.020
Eurasia group sounds familiar, it's because that is where Mark Carney's wife, Diane Fox Carney, that's
00:27:06.500
where she works. She started working there in 2021. Who else works for the Eurasia group? Gerald Butts.
00:27:11.700
Gerald Butts was Justin Trudeau's primary secretary, his best friend, his policy architect. He is a hard
00:27:17.820
left environmentalist who was very much behind the carbon tax. Of course, he got thrown under the bus
00:27:24.180
by Justin Trudeau over the whole SNC-Lavalin scandal. And then he picked up a cushy job with,
00:27:29.760
you guessed it, the Eurasia group. So he was there. And Evan Solomon, who was a star liberal
00:27:35.760
candidate, who was a CBC journalist, he got kicked out of his role as a journalist because he was
00:27:42.040
selling art illicitly without disclosing it to the CBC for commissions that he wasn't telling
00:27:48.880
anybody about. So he was interviewing people for his job as a CBC journalist. And then he was selling
00:27:54.180
them art and getting a commission. Very unethical. The CBC fired him. Well, guess who he was selling
00:27:58.880
his art to? He was selling his art to Mark Carney, as was reported in the UK Guardian. So it's all kind
00:28:04.320
of twisted together. Evan Solomon publishes the website, GZero Media, which is where this article
00:28:12.440
was published. And again, Ian Bremmer is a president. So he is like an insider in the know.
00:28:17.180
He's a political risk analyst. And his job is to analyze political risks and then advise his
00:28:26.040
clients on them. So he is in the know. He understands. He talks to people in Carney's team,
00:28:32.160
Carney's wife, Carney's policy advisor, and one of Carney's star candidates. Presumably,
00:28:38.160
he's friends with Mark Carney as well. And he is saying in a blog post, I don't know why he would
00:28:43.620
publish this, but you can read it for yourself. He's literally talking about how everybody is
00:28:50.000
afraid of Donald Trump and his tariffs. The tariffs, you know, because the United States' economy is so
00:28:55.300
big, the other players don't have a bargaining chip. So both Canada and Mexico can sort of like
00:29:00.440
pretend that they're going to fight against Trump. But at the end of the day, everybody knows that
00:29:04.320
they're going to cave. And he literally writes, I expect Ottawa will quietly fold after the vote
00:29:09.720
to ensure the ongoing relations with the US remain functional. So to me, Ryan, this is all fake.
00:29:17.660
This is all pretend. The whole tough talk, the relationship is over. We're going to fight back
00:29:22.420
against Trump. Elbows up. It's all a charade. It's all a show. And there, the truth is written right
00:29:28.500
there that as soon as the campaign is over, Mark Carney will just fold to the Americans and will carry
00:29:34.300
on. To me, it's so insanely frustrating that this is exposed right here and that this isn't getting
00:29:40.640
as much attention. What do you think? Well, if Canadians need any proof of what you just talked
00:29:46.300
about, they just need to do one thing. Remember what has happened to this country between 2016
00:29:53.420
and December of 2024. Look what the Liberals did. They've completely divided everybody. They told
00:30:00.780
everybody that this is a post-national state. We're not even, you know, technically a country
00:30:04.760
anymore. We don't have a Canadian identity. Be ashamed of your past. Be ashamed of all of our
00:30:09.560
symbols. We're taking them off the passport. We're ripping down statues. And you need to be afraid and
00:30:16.740
ashamed of who you are. And by the way, please continue to pay your taxes accordingly. So you have all
00:30:23.860
of that. And then all of a sudden, when the Liberals are 20, 27 points down, you have Donald Trump make
00:30:32.040
one remark and the entire mainstream media falls into line. And all we hear about is Donald Trump.
00:30:40.640
He's a threat. And then the media starts telling everybody he's a threat. He's a threat. He's a threat.
00:30:46.280
Then they go on the street to talk to the people that were listening to them and say,
00:30:49.900
what do you think is the most important part of this election? And then they regurgitate what
00:30:54.520
they've been told for the last six weeks. Well, I think it's Donald Trump. And then they have the
00:30:58.100
audacity to then come on the air and say, Canadians are telling us that Donald Trump is the biggest
00:31:03.340
ballot question in the next election. So when you create this feedback loop and pretend it doesn't
00:31:09.540
exist, that's the crazy part about it. But yes, the worst thing that could happen to the Liberal
00:31:15.580
campaign right now is if Donald Trump just said, you know what, I'm taking all the tariffs away,
00:31:21.340
we're going to focus on other things. I'll talk to you later. That would be the absolute worst thing
00:31:25.380
that could happen to the Liberal campaign because their fear machine would be very difficult to keep
00:31:32.000
going. And if Mark Carney was any type of leader, he would have already met with Donald Trump,
00:31:38.620
worked out what the issues are going to be, and then come to an agreement. And then he would be
00:31:43.400
able to go into the election. But this is the problem. He didn't do that. It's in their best
00:31:49.060
interest for this to continue. And I agree. As soon as the election is called, if, you know,
00:31:54.900
heaven forbid that the Liberals win, within a week, this will be gone.
00:31:59.480
So it's so frustrating. And it really does feel like we're being manipulated by the media and the way
00:32:05.160
that they, anytime Donald Trump says anything that can be relevant to Canada anyway, that is a top story.
00:32:11.800
That is what's plastered all over the papers. Tanya, I'm going to get you to comment, but I want to
00:32:16.560
draw your attention to this graph. This was posted by Kirk Lubmov on X. And I think it really says it
00:32:22.360
all because it says, what is the most important factor when deciding your vote by age? And so you
00:32:28.780
can see that the two top issues are either reducing your cost of living or dealing with Donald Trump.
00:32:34.560
And for Canadians over the age of 60, God love them, 50% of them say that Trump is the top issue.
00:32:41.100
And then all other age demographics, 18 to 29, 30 to 44, 45 to 59, they all say that reducing your
00:32:49.500
cost of living is the number one factor. And then you can look at how it translates into votes. Every
00:32:54.960
age demographic has the Conservatives leading, except for the Boomers, 60 plus, 50% of them will be voting
00:33:02.640
for the Liberals. To me, this shows media consumption, right? It's like younger people,
00:33:08.740
anyone under 60, especially anybody under 45, I think mostly gets their information and their news
00:33:15.740
from independent journalists and independent content creators on social media. Whereas the
00:33:20.540
older generation are the ones that are still glued to the CBC, still watching CTV, still reading the
00:33:27.080
newspaper that gets delivered to their door every day. What do you think, Tanya?
00:33:31.540
For us here at Northern Perspective, a vast majority of our audience is 55 and older. I think it's
00:33:37.680
almost two thirds of our audience fits that age demographic. So I'm not sure that Northern
00:33:42.660
Perspective exactly lines up with that. But I know that the people in our lives, like family members and
00:33:49.120
friends who are in that age demographic, many of them do still get their news from like cable news.
00:33:54.660
So things that they see on TV, CBC, CTV, global news, etc. And I'm wondering if that's because
00:34:03.160
they're being bombarded with these messages that Trump bad, Trump bad. But also, I think the older
00:34:08.360
demographic may be a little bit better insulated from the cost of living crisis than people our age or
00:34:14.620
people who are younger, like just starting out like 18 to 24. Again, the people in our lives, some of them
00:34:21.580
own multiple properties, most of them, at least their primary residence is paid off. They're not
00:34:28.080
in debt, you know, they've got their RSPs lined up, they're, for all intents and purposes, very well
00:34:35.060
off. So I don't think they're being hit by this cost of living crisis the way that young people with
00:34:41.340
families or even young people fresh out of school are. So to them, when they're being bombarded with
00:34:47.220
these messages day in and day out from cable news being told that while Trump is such a problem,
00:34:51.440
and they're not actually feeling the cost of living crisis the way the rest of us are,
00:34:56.740
then yeah, I can see why they're responding in this manner.
00:34:59.400
Well, and that's the thing, right? It's the people that are voting liberal, are liberal supporters that
00:35:05.140
watch the CBC that are insulated from this. As you said before, Candace, this is not to discount
00:35:10.900
everybody else in that demographic that has essentially aligned with the conservatives,
00:35:15.500
because they are feeling this, or they have friends or family that are feeling this, and
00:35:20.420
they're getting news from multiple sources across the spectrum, so they can be more objective about
00:35:26.380
this. And yeah, you know, should we all be concerned with the tariffs coming to Canada? Yes, we would
00:35:33.360
be irresponsible not to. However, we have to look at how did Canada get into this position where we're
00:35:41.500
this week that we can't do anything in the first place. That is 10 years of liberal mismanagement,
00:35:47.420
ineptitude, and they have just completely irresponsibly run our country.
00:35:53.380
Well, that's absolutely right, and I'll applaud you. I'm glad that you're reaching an older audience,
00:35:58.500
and hopefully, you know, that 30% of the 60-plus generation that still is voting for conservative,
00:36:05.180
hopefully those are the ones that are watching your show and my show, and they can spread the word to
00:36:09.240
their friends and people in their peer group that there is an alternative, that you don't have to
00:36:13.380
get your information from the CBC. There are incredibly skilled, well-researched, responsible,
00:36:19.520
fact-based journalists and commentators out there. I'm speaking to two of them right now with Northern
00:36:24.240
Perspective, a fantastic channel that you should go check out if you haven't already, where you can get
00:36:28.480
the news every single day. Ryan and Tanya break down the stories. They give you a very informed,
00:36:34.080
very well-researched perspective on what is happening in Canada, and it is not the same
00:36:39.420
thing that you'll hear regurgitated from the legacy media who gets paid by the Trudeau government,
00:36:45.560
by the Liberal government, I should say, because presumably Mark Carney will continue that. Okay,
00:36:49.680
I want to quickly move on to talk about immigration, because this is a story I've been wanting to talk
00:36:53.940
about all week and haven't had time to, and I just think it's so important. So we learned that
00:36:58.240
Liberal leader Mark Carney has added the Century Initiative co-founder Mark Wiseman to his advisory
00:37:04.780
council to Canada-U.S. relations, and so for folks who don't know, the Century Initiative is a pro-immigration
00:37:11.200
lobby, and their sole purpose, their sole advocacy is to get Canada to grow its population to 100 million
00:37:19.280
people by 2021. So if you thought that Canada was really overcrowded now, that cities were getting too
00:37:25.660
big, too congested, that the roads and the infrastructure aren't keeping up with the
00:37:29.280
population growth, well basically we would have to have the population, the massive increase in
00:37:34.760
population that we had over the last two years, the one that Trudeau actually had to walk back and say
00:37:38.980
it was a massive mistake, we would have to have that level of growth every single year to reach this
00:37:44.180
target. Really unbelievable that there is a group that is seen as sort of like a blue chip
00:37:49.380
initiative, you know, they're sponsored by the Globe and Mail, and they do these panels and
00:37:54.780
roundhouse roundtables advocating for a massive growth through immigration, not through supporting
00:38:00.780
Canadian families and getting Canadian women to have more children, but by just importing the third
00:38:04.960
world basically. So Pierre Polyev has slammed this appointment on mass immigration, we have a clip of
00:38:12.120
him talking about it, let's play that now. The Liberals destroyed our immigration system in their first
00:38:17.540
three terms in power. They followed a radical globalist ideology of massive uncontrolled population
00:38:26.320
growth that put strain on our housing market, our health care, and our job market.
00:38:35.140
And so I think Pierre Polyev is sort of hitting the nail on the head there, and I want to show this
00:38:40.780
clip that Maxime Bernier, the leader of the People's Party, has posted. He writes on X, red alert,
00:38:46.360
Mark Carney has hired Mark Wiseman of the Century Initiative, an organization that wants to grow
00:38:50.840
Canada's population to reach 100 million by the end of the century. And then the clip that I'm about
00:38:54.960
to show has Mark Wiseman talking about how we could facilitate this growth. He literally just says that
00:39:01.440
we should stop screening, that we shouldn't do security screening of immigrants to Canada. We should
00:39:08.260
just basically, anyone who wants to come, we should let them in. Honestly, this is crazy. This is so extreme.
00:39:17.540
Let the private sector move to bring people in and facilitate them being able to do that. And,
00:39:24.440
you know, a lot of the screening and other stuff that we do, frankly, is just bureaucracy. It's a
00:39:30.540
waste of time. Let's let people in by and large. And if we have to do the screening ex post, that's fine.
00:39:37.520
To screen them once we're already in the country, what could possibly go wrong? Ryan, what do you think
00:39:43.040
of this? Well, we, yeah, we're quite familiar with the Century Initiative. We did it. We did our own
00:39:49.680
deep dive last year on this. And it was so disturbing to us to see this, especially when
00:39:58.460
we started taking a look at what the Century Initiative's main platform was. And then we took
00:40:04.860
a look at Trudeau's 2021 Liberal Party platform. And the hair on our necks started standing up because
00:40:11.500
you can line them up and they are point for point for point. So essentially what looks like happened
00:40:17.520
was a bunch of elites, a bunch of rich people got together and said, hey, let's get rich. And here's
00:40:24.080
a good way that we can do that. We can bring in a whole bunch of people, take advantage of all of
00:40:27.920
those tax dollars and all of the homes that are going to have to be built for these people because
00:40:32.800
some of their their founders are members or CEOs of the largest lumber companies in Canada. Well,
00:40:39.060
we all know that lumber is used in housing and other people have different interests in health care or
00:40:45.260
any of the other services that are going to be essentially needed to be used by 100 million people
00:40:51.580
over the next 70 odd years. So you have all of this coming together. And their main premise is the
00:41:00.000
quality of life is determined by the number of people in the country. Well, we actually completely
00:41:04.660
agree with that, because what we've seen is the massive amounts of people that have been
00:41:10.660
influxed into Canada over the last four or five years has had a significant decline on our quality of
00:41:18.400
life. And it's not the type of people, it's not the people themselves, that's the problem. It's the
00:41:23.440
fact that the policies that we've been using in Canada, they haven't bothered to keep up with
00:41:28.660
housing, they haven't bothered to keep up with hospitals, and they haven't bothered to keep up
00:41:32.060
with education or any of the other systems in there. So what we end up having is a net poor society.
00:41:39.740
And if you don't care where these people come from, or what happens, this results in all of these
00:41:45.840
protests on the streets that go unchecked now by police, and you have anti-Semitism rampant across
00:41:51.840
the country, reminiscent of the 1930s, it is, it is just an insane, an insane type of type of approach.
00:42:01.320
You'd think it was a conspiracy theory if it wasn't out in the open.
00:42:05.040
Well, it's so interesting, because you're right, it is like it's like a shortcut, like a cheating,
00:42:09.420
a way to cheat the economy, right? Because it's like Canada is having a major issue with
00:42:14.040
productivity. So much of the capital, so much of the investments that people have are not being
00:42:19.000
invested into Canadian companies to help them grow. They're doing what Mark Carney did, which
00:42:23.040
is move their headquarters to New York City, invest in the American stock market, put your money in
00:42:28.400
funds in Bermuda, and just investing anywhere other than Canada, because the Canadian economy
00:42:32.920
is stagnant, it's not growing. It's like these guys got into Trudeau's ear, and they said, hey,
00:42:38.180
here's a hack, a way that you can grow your GDP is just grow the population. More people means more money
00:42:44.040
economy, boom, snap your finger, and it's done. You don't even have to worry about the more tricky
00:42:49.720
parts of actually encouraging people to start businesses and reinvest in their businesses.
00:42:56.000
Right, making a pro-business environment. It's like you can just cheat by bringing all these
00:42:59.500
people in. And because it's the liberals, they put absolutely no effort into any of the sort
00:43:04.800
of infrastructure that you're talking about. On a deeper cultural level, they put no effort
00:43:09.160
into thinking about whether the population can properly absorb this new influx of people,
00:43:15.840
people from other countries, people who have other values, people that might not share Canadian values.
00:43:21.240
And for the last decade, if anyone even dares to say that there's such thing as Canadian values,
00:43:27.080
they get slammed as being a racist and a bigot and xenophobic, right? We weren't even allowed to talk
00:43:32.560
about what our shared Canadian values were. And so the outcome of this is you have a whole bunch of
00:43:37.400
people in Canada who may or may not even like Canada. They may have bought into the liberal
00:43:42.920
narrative that Canada is a racist, genocidal country, that the white people in this country
00:43:47.200
have committed atrocities against the environment and against the local people who are here.
00:43:53.380
And so they have like no love and no affinity for Canada. And you see a fractured, fraying culture.
00:43:59.080
You know, you mentioned anti-Semitism on the rise. Yes, that's true. That's like one of a dozen
00:44:04.000
cultural clashes that are happening in Canada. I mean, look at what's happened with Chanda Arya
00:44:08.640
being disqualified from the Liberal Party. And he said it was over his advocacy for Hindu
00:44:14.180
values and against extremism within the Kalistani Sikh movement. So you have these clashes that also
00:44:20.900
exist and happen in places like Brampton and in places like Surrey, where Hindus and Sikhs are openly
00:44:26.540
fighting each other on the streets. You have the same kind of thing in the Chinese diaspora community,
00:44:31.240
where there's so-called police stations, Chinese monitored police stations, where they are
00:44:36.840
tracking down dissenting voices against the communist Chinese regime, people who might
00:44:41.720
advocate for a free and independent Hong Kong or Taiwan. And they're being intimidated and who knows
00:44:47.000
what else by these Chinese state-sponsored gangsters. All of this is happening in Canada. To me,
00:44:53.420
it shows a broken society, frankly. And I think that we need a real solution. Like,
00:44:58.680
I think this is an opportunity for Pierre Polyev to say, no, like, we're not going to put up with
00:45:03.800
this. We don't like the direction that the Liberals have taken our country with immigration. They have
00:45:07.600
broken the system. And they've broken Canadians' trust in immigration. I think that a bigger and
00:45:12.980
bigger percentage of Canadians have just had enough of mass migration. We want our country back. We want
00:45:18.560
secure borders. We don't want illegal immigration. And we want to be able to celebrate the things that
00:45:23.200
make us Canadian. Not in this sort of artificial, elbows-up, Team Canada, just merely defined as being
00:45:29.800
anti-American. But actually, something deeper. Like, the deeper bonds that hold us together as Canadians
00:45:35.680
are values. And I think that Pierre has an opportunity. I don't know that he's really stepping up to it. But I
00:45:42.560
have heard him at least talking about the issue of immigration and how we need to change from what Trudeau is
00:45:48.360
doing. Tanya, I'll bring you in on this one. Yeah, I don't think Pierre can go too hard on it because
00:45:53.620
then he'll get criticized by the Liberals. And if you believe the polls, the Conservatives are currently
00:45:58.420
down slightly in the polls. So he doesn't want to go down any further. I think that we do need
00:46:05.100
someone to come in and unify the country. We had a interview with Lieutenant Colonel David Redmond
00:46:11.360
earlier this year. And that was one of the major things that he was talking about in terms of how we're
00:46:17.000
going to get Canada back. We need unity across this country. It's not enough just to have a bunch of
00:46:20.960
people from all over the world living in the same geographic space. We all need to be working
00:46:25.300
towards a common goal. We all need to have common values and beliefs. You don't have to believe the
00:46:32.640
exact same thing. You know, we celebrate Christmas. Our neighbors down the street might celebrate
00:46:37.500
Hanukkah. But the fact is that we're all working towards a common goal of Canada, a common
00:46:43.940
prosperity, and that we want to get along and live peacefully together.
00:46:49.720
Well, and, you know, the one thing that Pierre has said about immigration is he said he wants to
00:46:54.460
revert our immigration system back to the way it was, which both Liberal and Conservative governments
00:46:59.580
agreed upon and they didn't change it for decades because it was a merit-based system. And we approached
00:47:06.380
people coming into Canada as it was a, you know, a privilege and not a right. You had to actually
00:47:13.440
be able to show that you're going to contribute something positively to Canada. You're going to
00:47:17.880
fit within the culture and you're going to, you know, help build a better Canada.
00:47:24.480
So he has said that, you know, the Liberals have completely broken the immigration system and that
00:47:29.200
we need to move back to that. You know, a lot of people have talked about the fact that, well,
00:47:33.780
you know, Pierre hasn't, you know, said that he's going to, you know, go with mass deportations. Well,
00:47:37.460
you can't just start deporting people that, unfortunately, the new system let in properly.
00:47:43.340
You can deport people that have, have come in illegally. And I think that's what everyone is,
00:47:48.440
is, is for. But that's the other thing that Mark Kearney has kind of waffled on, on his campaign side,
00:47:54.540
because, you know, he is for the Century Initiative. He is for more taxpayers and he, he doesn't care at
00:48:02.480
all how bad things get in Canada, because by all accounts, most of his investments aren't even in
00:48:07.800
Canada anymore. So if the Canadian economy tanks, his investments are insulated. I mean, how shocking
00:48:12.820
is that, that we still don't even know where his money is invested? You know, he says that he has a
00:48:16.780
blind trust and that someone else is handling it. We don't know who. It's kind of alarming that the
00:48:21.620
Prime Minister, we, you know, we know that he takes advantage of tax havens. We know that he used the
00:48:26.460
Bermuda, as well as like a dozen other countries to manage his funds and to make sure that they didn't
00:48:31.240
have to pay Canadian taxes until the very end. And yet, you know, this is a person that is, well,
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he is the Prime Minister. I mean, sure, he technically, he should be a caretaker Prime
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Minister. He's not really acting like that. He's acting like he's already elected. And if you do
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trust the polls, it looks like Canadians could head that way. I'm hoping not. I'm so optimistic that
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Pierre is running such a good campaign so far that the momentum is on his side. The polls show one
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thing, but my own eyes watching the, the rallies, watching him, watching the excitement around him
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is really showing something, something else. So I'm hopeful that that's the way that the
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election will go. Tanya, Brian, great to have you on. Thank you so much for joining the show today.
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It's been such a fun conversation. Thanks for having us. Right. Check out the Northern
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Perspective. They do wonderful analysis over there. All right, folks, that's all the time we have for
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today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show.
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Have a wonderful weekend, everyone. We'll be back again on Monday. Thank you and God bless.