The Candice Malcolm Show - November 25, 2021


Media in overdrive to advocate for vaccines in kids aged 5-11


Episode Stats

Length

22 minutes

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192.60674

Word Count

4,269

Sentence Count

285

Misogynist Sentences

2


Summary

COVID vaccines are now available for little kids, so let the fearmongering begin! Candice explains why it is so important that we have independent media telling the other side of the story, and how the legacy media are not telling the truth.


Transcript

00:00:00.160 COVID vaccines are now available for little kids, so let the fear-mongering begin.
00:00:05.260 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:12.220 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in today.
00:00:14.140 Thank you for your ongoing support of The Candice Malcolm Show, as well as of TrueNorth, TNC.news.
00:00:19.440 It is so important in this country that we have independent media, that we have groups like TrueNorth telling the other side of the story.
00:00:26.060 And today I'm going to focus in on one of the reasons why it is so important that we have independent media and we have the other side of the story being told.
00:00:33.480 Because increasingly, what we see from the legacy media is not news.
00:00:37.820 It's not reporting in the traditional sense of reporting the news.
00:00:41.340 People think when it comes to news, you can kind of vaguely split it into two different sections.
00:00:45.980 You have fact-based news, so just reporting, and then you have opinion-based news, so opinion columns, analysis pieces, opinion shows.
00:00:55.620 And that it's sort of a black and white distinction.
00:00:58.620 But what we see is this isn't true.
00:01:00.560 We see that the legacy media, particularly the media outlets that are funded by the government, the ones that take money from the federal government, not just the CBC.
00:01:09.160 The CBC is, of course, the biggest outlet that takes money from the federal government.
00:01:12.600 But we see that the Trudeau government has spread those funds across particularly newspapers.
00:01:19.560 Newspapers are now also funded in part or subsidized by the Trudeau government.
00:01:23.640 And what we see from these legacy news outlets, these publicly funded news outlets, is that the reporting looks less and less like straight journalism, like straight reporting, unbiased, fact-based.
00:01:34.780 And what it looks like now is more like an advocacy campaign to achieve the government's objective.
00:01:40.940 And I'm going to demonstrate that today with this topic of little kids and vaccines.
00:01:45.660 I'm going to show you the way that this issue has been portrayed by the media and juxtapose that with the facts, with the pure facts that we have on little kids when it comes to COVID.
00:01:56.020 And then from there, you can make up your own mind.
00:01:57.680 You can make up your mind for yourself, whether you think it is a good idea for little kids to get vaccinated.
00:02:01.940 You'll have all of the reasons for as well as the reasons against and compare that to someone who just watches legacy media, just consumes the news through the legacy outlets.
00:02:10.900 And how, by contrast, they're not well-equipped to make the decision because they're only hearing one side of the story.
00:02:16.720 And I think when it comes to the health of little kids, of little kids who can't really make the decision for themselves, they have to rely on their parents to make these decisions for them.
00:02:24.300 It's just so important that you have all the facts, that you're armed with the facts so that you can make a good decision.
00:02:30.280 So do little kids need the COVID vaccine?
00:02:32.820 So last Friday, we finally got the announcement, much anticipated announcement, that little kids, kids aged 5 to 11, would now be eligible for the vaccine.
00:02:41.020 So Canada announced the approval of the Pfizer vaccine for kids aged 5 to 11 on Friday, November 19th.
00:02:47.140 And so this week, the first doses were being administered to little kids across the country.
00:02:51.560 We knew this was coming.
00:02:52.500 It was anticipated.
00:02:53.400 The U.S. approved the vaccine for this age group two weeks ago.
00:02:57.500 And just this week, Europe has also approved this vaccine.
00:03:00.680 So first, I'm going to start by showing this clip from the CBC.
00:03:03.680 This is how the CBC reported this news that little kids will now be eligible for the vaccine.
00:03:08.260 Keep in mind, this isn't opinion journalism.
00:03:10.020 This is straight news.
00:03:11.240 This is the straight news.
00:03:12.200 And these are the facts that the CBC gives the viewer about the vaccine.
00:03:16.560 So let's play this report.
00:03:17.780 And I'll just preface saying it's a two-minute report.
00:03:19.560 I'm going to play the whole thing.
00:03:20.380 And what you see is voice after voice after voice advocating for the vaccine.
00:03:25.560 So it starts with a parent saying, finally, I can't wait to vaccinate my kid.
00:03:29.100 We hear the overlay of the reporter's voice talking about how the little kids are the most likely to be infected.
00:03:34.800 And also lead to the end of the lockdowns and the pandemics and the restrictions, something that we've heard many, many times before.
00:03:40.520 And yet, here we are still living in a COVID world with restrictions and lockdowns.
00:03:46.260 Then we hear from a volunteer activist whose job it is to go from door to door to try to convince parents to get their children vaccinated.
00:03:54.040 So we hear right off the bat, three pro-vaccine voices, and then followed by a series of public health officials, government officials, basically just telling you to get vaccinated.
00:04:04.300 So not a lot of variation in opinion.
00:04:07.280 We basically just hear all the reasons why you must vaccinate your kids.
00:04:11.300 Let's play this report.
00:04:14.180 They're among the millions of young Canadians who, as of today, are eligible to get vaccinated against the coronavirus.
00:04:20.640 Thank goodness. They have taken long enough to approve it. I can't wait.
00:04:27.220 The timing of the approval is critical. Kids under 12 are testing positive more than any other age group.
00:04:33.960 Vaccination reduces their chances of getting sick and infecting others more susceptible to severe illness, a risk that's kept families apart.
00:04:43.020 I don't have any family in Canada, and my children haven't seen any of their cousins. They haven't seen my grandmother.
00:04:49.060 Health Canada confirms in a clinical trial, the Pfizer vaccine was over 90% effective at preventing COVID-19 in children between 5 and 11.
00:04:59.240 The department has determined that the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the potential risks.
00:05:03.900 Kids could begin getting their shots in just a few days.
00:05:06.880 Canada will begin receiving doses Sunday with all the 2.9 million doses received by the end of next week.
00:05:15.420 That's enough doses to offer a first shot to all eligible children in this country.
00:05:21.940 Now comes the delicate job of persuading parents who are still unsure.
00:05:26.420 In one of Toronto's least vaccinated neighbourhoods, public health volunteers encounter questions and hesitation.
00:05:33.680 They're concerned about if it's kind of painful or if they get fever or something or how safe it is.
00:05:42.160 They're also reminding parents this could help children return to normal.
00:05:46.440 We're going to have less outbreaks, less school closures or classroom closures, and that will give a bit of stability for kids because a lot of kids in the past two years haven't had it.
00:05:56.920 The National Advisory Committee on Immunization recommends extending the interval between the two pediatric doses to eight weeks from Pfizer's recommended three weeks, which means children wouldn't be fully vaccinated until the new year.
00:06:11.200 Vic Adopia, CBC News, Toronto.
00:06:13.800 I mean, it's basically an infomercial for the vaccine.
00:06:16.440 And so if you were just a casual viewer of the CBC, not a skeptical-minded person, just someone who says, OK, I turn on the CBC, I trust them to get my news, you would be under the impression that it was a unanimous decision, that every health expert out there agreed that children need to be vaccinated.
00:06:33.220 Children are at great, great risk.
00:06:35.020 COVID is very dangerous for little kids, and therefore it is your obligation to your child as well as to society, the greater society, to get your children vaccinated.
00:06:43.540 But wait a minute, I want to pause and just say that that is not the case.
00:06:47.380 That is not the case.
00:06:48.340 It is not true that every health expert out there unanimously agrees that little kids must get vaccinated.
00:06:54.600 It is still an issue of contention, and it is a moral decision.
00:06:57.820 It is up to each individual parent to determine what is best for their own child.
00:07:02.440 And doing some great reporting on this topic is my colleague Anthony Fury, and he has an excellent Twitter thread that I'm basically going to read in its entirety here, talking about how, no, it isn't unanimous.
00:07:13.040 So here is Anthony Fury saying this, Canadian parents would be well advised to read what the NACI release on kids' vaccines actually says.
00:07:21.500 NACI, by the way, is the National Advisory Committee on Immunization.
00:07:24.920 You saw at the end of the CBC report, they're the ones who recommended a further gap between the two vaccine doses in contrast to what Pfizer recommends.
00:07:32.880 So this is the Canadian Advisory Board, and so Anthony has gotten his information straight from them.
00:07:38.240 So one more time, he says, Canadian parents would be well advised to read what the NACI release on kids' vaccines actually says.
00:07:43.500 It is far less of a ringing endorsement than many would have you believe.
00:07:47.900 So again, this comes from the Canadian authority.
00:07:51.340 All those people who say trust the science, trust the experts, these are the experts.
00:07:54.700 This is the science, the National Advisory Committee on Immunization.
00:07:57.540 And so here they say, it is essential that children age 5 to 11 and their parents are supported and respected in their decision regarded COVID-19 vaccines for their children, whatever decision they make, and are not stigmatized for accepting or not accepting the vaccine offer.
00:08:14.640 Wow.
00:08:15.220 You didn't hear anything like that in that CBC report.
00:08:17.840 Let's go on.
00:08:18.340 It says, it is not justified to vaccinate children only to benefit others.
00:08:23.620 The overall safety and effectiveness data are limited for children.
00:08:28.280 It is not justified to vaccinate children only to benefit others.
00:08:31.900 Isn't that interesting?
00:08:32.920 The NACI says right here, it is not justified to vaccinate children only to benefit others.
00:08:37.240 Go back to that CBC report, and you heard the narrator say, the reporter say, that the purpose of vaccinating little kids is twofold.
00:08:44.160 One, to protect them, and two, to protect the people who they may infect.
00:08:48.580 So little kids get COVID a lot, and they could pass it on to a sick relative, and it could prevent them from seeing their relatives.
00:08:55.620 We saw that parent complaining about how she hadn't been able to leave the country, presumably, and go visit her relatives.
00:09:00.840 So she would not just vaccinate her child to protect her child.
00:09:03.560 She would vaccinate her child to protect people around her and to enable her to do the things that she wants to do.
00:09:08.920 So in some ways, it's sort of like sacrificing a little kid to benefit others.
00:09:13.260 And here, the NACI says it is not justified to vaccinate children for that reason.
00:09:19.520 Interesting stuff, stuff that you are not seeing reported by the legacy media.
00:09:23.120 I'll keep going.
00:09:23.740 It says the overall safety and effectiveness data are limited for children.
00:09:27.340 Given the short-term uncertainties surrounding pediatric vaccination at this time,
00:09:31.900 children and their parents or guardians should be supported and respected in their decision.
00:09:36.460 So we're learning there's still short-term uncertainties regarding this vaccine,
00:09:39.940 and that we shouldn't be vaccinating little kids to benefit others.
00:09:43.300 Interesting stuff, stuff that you don't hear or read about in the legacy media.
00:09:47.480 Anthony goes on to say,
00:09:48.540 I don't think most Canadians are aware that there were similar cautionary notes surrounded by the FDA committee
00:09:54.660 and even Pfizer itself as I break down here.
00:09:57.620 Any links to a column Europe for the Sun saying,
00:09:59.740 more nuance is needed around the kids' vaccination decision.
00:10:03.220 He goes on to say,
00:10:04.020 Anyway, give the NACI document a read yourself.
00:10:07.180 And they don't explicitly say it because unlike the Ontario Science Table,
00:10:10.600 which is a group of doctors that advise Doug Ford, Ontario Premier Doug Ford,
00:10:14.420 and as we know, they're very, very political, so political that one guy left the table to go run for the Liberals.
00:10:19.980 Regardless, he makes a point that unlike the Ontario Science Table,
00:10:23.760 NACI is far too professional to blur science with policy advocacy.
00:10:28.320 So these guys are just showing science.
00:10:30.080 They're not saying one thing or another with regards to what they recommend and what they advocate with regards to policy,
00:10:35.660 but they clearly don't support vaccine mandates or passports for 5 to 11-year-olds.
00:10:41.280 So, wow.
00:10:42.060 So here we have a group of scientists, a group of experts,
00:10:44.640 saying that there are short-term uncertainties when it comes to this vaccination,
00:10:49.260 saying that the overall safety and effectiveness data are limited for children,
00:10:53.300 so we don't actually know,
00:10:54.840 and saying that either way, it's up to the parents and neither should be stigmatized.
00:10:58.240 Neither should be stigmatized.
00:10:59.280 So, in other words, to all the journalists out there and all the politicians out there,
00:11:02.500 what they're basically saying is don't fearmonger when it comes to little kids.
00:11:05.560 Let parents make their own decisions.
00:11:07.260 Don't scapegoat the unvaccinated as if that's the root of all of our problems.
00:11:11.520 And basically, don't pass judgment.
00:11:13.580 It's up to the parents whether they choose to vaccinate or not vaccinate.
00:11:16.880 Very, very different tone and information than what we saw in that CBC report,
00:11:22.000 which, again, was much more like an infomercial for the vaccine than anything else.
00:11:26.500 And, of course, CBC is not alone.
00:11:29.080 So, here we have a report from CTV when the vaccines first became available.
00:11:33.680 It says, focus shifts to Ontario public health units as Health Canada approve kids' vaccines.
00:11:39.020 So, here we have, it says,
00:11:40.520 Toronto health units encouraged some of Ontario's youngest residents to channel their inner superheroes Friday
00:11:45.780 as they prepared to vaccinate kids against COVID-19 after Pfizer's vaccine was approved for children age 5 to 11.
00:11:51.680 And it goes on, the superhero theme employed by Toronto, Halton, Chatham-Kent public health units, among others,
00:11:58.080 is a child-friendly way public health units are trying to get kids invested in vaccination.
00:12:02.540 So, in other words, kind of like propaganda, you know, make it seem like your kid's a superhero,
00:12:06.620 that they're going there to save society, even though the benefits for them aren't exactly clear.
00:12:10.580 And, basically, the reason we're getting kids to be vaccinated is to protect other people.
00:12:14.980 Not to protect kids, but to protect other people.
00:12:17.600 And so, this whole idea of a superhero, again, it is propaganda.
00:12:21.380 And it's kind of telling, because the idea that we're telling little kids is like,
00:12:25.040 sacrifice yourself for the greater good.
00:12:26.920 That's basically the message we're being told.
00:12:28.620 And, of course, CTV chooses to highlight two parents.
00:12:31.040 And, lo and behold, surprise, surprise, they both are very, very pro-vax for little kids.
00:12:35.640 So, here it says, Toronto mom, Lisa Dorning, said she's been obsessively checking the news
00:12:40.700 to hear when her 11-year-old son could get vaccinated.
00:12:43.420 So, Friday felt like a huge relief.
00:12:45.400 So, another parent, Parent Smeski, who has a daughter that's turning five in January,
00:12:49.340 so not even eligible for the vaccine, not even old enough, four-year-old little kid.
00:12:53.420 And this woman is already ecstatic that soon she will be able to get her little, young child vaccinated.
00:12:58.800 So, she says that she's feeling that acutely.
00:13:01.220 She's resisted signing her daughter up for extracurricular activities, such as skating lessons.
00:13:04.880 Until now.
00:13:06.020 But, she said that she'll be more comfortable doing so once her daughter gets her shots.
00:13:10.000 Smeski also noted that getting her older child vaccinated will help keep her 20-month-old daughter safe from the virus.
00:13:16.960 So, again, two examples.
00:13:18.180 Two people that are very pro-health.
00:13:19.840 This is supposed to be objective, fair journalism, only showing one side.
00:13:24.580 Is there any surprise?
00:13:25.780 It keeps going.
00:13:26.600 We have a report from the Toronto Star.
00:13:28.320 It says, Health Canada has approved the Pfizer-COVID vaccine for kids.
00:13:31.200 Here's what you need to know.
00:13:32.520 So, and then this is how they describe it because they have no shame.
00:13:36.840 So, here they say, not only will the arrival of doses be met with jubilation for many parents who want protection for their children,
00:13:43.420 there'll be an important step towards ending the pandemic for everyone.
00:13:46.320 So, we're supposed to believe that parents were just jubilated about the idea of getting their little kids vaccinated.
00:13:50.880 Yeah, sure.
00:13:51.300 There's probably a portion of the society that are feeling super excited, but the way that they write this,
00:13:56.380 it makes it seem like it's a universal thing, that it's beyond debate, beyond discussion,
00:14:00.260 whether or not we should actually be vaccinating little kids.
00:14:02.520 And the idea is just jubilation from parents.
00:14:05.520 And then, of course, they put in that second note there.
00:14:08.300 It's an important step towards ending the pandemic.
00:14:10.680 Hinting towards this idea that it's not really just to protect little kids, but it's to protect everyone.
00:14:15.040 And, again, this is sort of waving carrot that they have, this goalpost that if we just get everyone vaccinated,
00:14:20.600 the pandemic will be over.
00:14:21.680 But we know that's not true.
00:14:22.680 We were told that if we get vaccinated, we won't have to wear masks anymore and we'll be able to go back to normal.
00:14:27.240 That, of course, was a lie.
00:14:28.660 We were told that once a certain percentage of the society was vaccinated, that everything would go back to normal.
00:14:33.860 That's not true.
00:14:34.500 And now they're saying all you have to do is vaccinate your little kids and we will end this pandemic.
00:14:39.080 I don't believe them.
00:14:40.740 I don't believe them.
00:14:41.400 They've said it enough and it's just not true.
00:14:43.480 So, OK, so we're hearing from a doctor.
00:15:13.480 There's a doctor here who says that there is benefit for kids and they're using really vague language here.
00:15:18.320 So it says that some do end up with severe versions of the illness and some end up in intensive care.
00:15:25.120 Here it says a study suggested one in five children who is admitted to the hospital with COVID end up in intensive care.
00:15:30.140 So, again, that's designed to make you feel afraid, to make you feel nervous, to make you think that kids are at a great risk.
00:15:35.960 But it, of course, ignores so much context, so much greater information.
00:15:39.920 For instance, we know that the hospitalization rate for children is very low.
00:15:43.760 And even of the kids who get admitted to a hospital with COVID, the overwhelming majority of those cases are not individuals who are admitted because of COVID.
00:15:52.260 They're admitted for other reasons and then they're tested.
00:15:54.520 And it turns out they had COVID, but they didn't even know about it.
00:15:56.980 And so they're saying of the kids who get admitted to the hospital, those are the ones that end up in acute care.
00:16:02.280 Well, of course, because they're taken to hospital because of the disease.
00:16:05.720 So it kind of makes sense.
00:16:07.040 And again, when you hear this one in five get admitted, you think that the child might be at risk, one in five kids.
00:16:12.720 But the reality is that the number of kids that go to the hospital with COVID is like one in thousands or one in tens of thousands.
00:16:19.920 So, again, the data isn't being presented in a factual way.
00:16:24.040 And why don't we pause?
00:16:25.320 Let's pause right now and go through the actual numbers with kids in COVID because I think it's so important, again, for parents to be armed with the facts.
00:16:32.580 So the following figures all come from Health Canada's comprehensive database on COVID-19.
00:16:36.720 So dating back to the very beginning of the pandemic, early 2020, there have been a total of 1.68 million cases of COVID in Canada and about 29,000 deaths.
00:16:47.120 That's in all age groups in all of Canada in basically the last two years, almost two years now.
00:16:52.600 Those are the total numbers.
00:16:54.020 So of that 1.7 million COVID cases to date, the most infected age group are people under 20.
00:17:00.060 That is true.
00:17:00.600 There have been approximately 350,000 cases in this age group, making up 21% of all cases.
00:17:07.160 So kids, teenagers, people under the age of 20 are the most likely to get COVID.
00:17:12.280 However, they're also the least likely to be hospitalized.
00:17:16.180 So despite having the highest numbers of COVID cases, Canadians aged 0 to 19 experienced lowest hospitalization rate, only 2% of hospitalization.
00:17:24.740 So of all the people who've gone to the hospital, only 2% were from that age group, from that 0 to 20 age group.
00:17:30.540 Compare that to my age group.
00:17:31.500 I'm in my 30s.
00:17:32.360 So age 30 to 39 have been 7.5% of all hospitalizations.
00:17:36.560 My mom's age group, 60 to 69.
00:17:38.860 18% of all hospitalizations have been in that age group.
00:17:41.640 And look at my grandmother's age bracket, over 80.
00:17:44.140 25% of all COVID hospitalizations have been people in their 80s.
00:17:47.940 So to go back to kids, of the 350,000 cases we've had in Canada, for those people under the age of 20, only 1,800 have been hospitalized.
00:17:56.900 Only 1,800 out of all those 350,000 cases.
00:18:00.180 And as my colleague Anthony Fury reported, that only 40% of those 1,800 cases, so only about less than what, 800 cases, have been because of COVID.
00:18:10.220 The other ones have been someone, they break their arm, they have a bloody nose, something happens, they go to the hospital, and then they're tested, and it turns out that they have COVID.
00:18:17.480 So it's not like they're hospitalized because of COVID, they're hospitalized, and then they just happen to have asymptomatic COVID.
00:18:23.860 And so again, the numbers are so important because they show you the context.
00:18:27.940 So since the start of the pandemic, so we're almost at two years now, the two-year death rate for children under the age of 20.
00:18:34.760 So teenagers and kids in all of Canada, in the past two years, there have only been 17 deaths.
00:18:41.320 17.
00:18:42.100 17 deaths.
00:18:42.880 That makes up 0.1% of all COVID deaths in Canada.
00:18:45.520 That means that the COVID case fatality rate, the number of people who die per case in Canada for anyone under the age of 20, is 0.002%.
00:18:55.120 0.002%.
00:18:56.140 That is a lower death rate, by the way, than the seasonal flu.
00:18:59.480 So that's what we're talking about.
00:19:01.020 And if you isolate it, when I was looking at the numbers, it was only showing me vaguely under 20.
00:19:06.300 It didn't break them down.
00:19:07.500 Our friends over at Black Locks have a report that they did break it down into an even smaller age group.
00:19:13.240 And they found that there have been six deaths, six deaths in all of Canada in that younger age bracket.
00:19:19.400 So according to this Black Locks report, it says that in Canada, children under the age of 16, there are over 6 million of them.
00:19:25.080 Over 6 million Canadians under the age of 15.
00:19:27.340 A total of 171,000 of those children have been infected with COVID.
00:19:31.380 So about 3% of everyone under the age of 15 has had COVID.
00:19:35.460 A total of 780 of those were hospitalized.
00:19:39.060 So the hospitalization rate is 0.01%.
00:19:42.080 And of those who died, six.
00:19:44.580 We've had six children under the age of 14 die from COVID.
00:19:48.300 Six.
00:19:48.940 Six.
00:19:49.480 So again, six children in a country of 38 million, in a total age bracket of over 6 million people, we've had six deaths.
00:19:58.220 So don't you think that that information might be relevant to the Canadian public?
00:20:01.500 Don't you think that maybe some of these news reports should have included all of that context?
00:20:05.640 Instead of cherry picking the most scary statistics, like one in five of the people hospitalized end up in intensive care,
00:20:12.360 wouldn't it be more relevant for parents to know that only 0.01% of those who get COVID end up in the hospital?
00:20:19.560 780 in the entire country.
00:20:21.500 And of those, only six children have died from COVID.
00:20:24.760 We don't know what other comorbidities they had.
00:20:26.800 We don't know what else may have led to the COVID death.
00:20:29.580 But again, wouldn't you think that some of this information would be relevant to the Canadian public?
00:20:33.640 We here at True North do think that's relevant.
00:20:35.580 We think that you need to know all of the information so that you can make an informed decision.
00:20:40.020 Whereas the legacy media, they just don't think that.
00:20:42.440 They don't think that you need to know.
00:20:43.520 They don't think that it is important to give you all of the statistics, all of the facts, because they're not news agencies.
00:20:48.520 They're not there to present the information in an unbiased way.
00:20:51.280 They're activists.
00:20:52.020 They're activists.
00:20:52.720 They're running infomercials.
00:20:53.860 They're pro-vaccine.
00:20:54.600 They're pro-Trudeau government, and it is all incredibly obvious by the way that they are reporting on children and vaccines.
00:21:00.660 Here at the Candace Malcolm Show, we think that you should make your own decision.
00:21:03.200 And I'll just say, full disclosure, I am vaccinated.
00:21:05.660 I've had two vaccine doses against COVID.
00:21:07.960 I thought it was a good idea for me and my family.
00:21:10.160 I wanted to get back to normal.
00:21:11.220 I wanted to be able to travel.
00:21:12.540 I decided to get the vaccines.
00:21:13.960 When it comes to my little kids, though, it's going to be a totally different equation.
00:21:17.560 I will just say that my kids are completely up to date when it comes to their vaccination schedules.
00:21:21.300 I am pro-vaccine.
00:21:22.640 I believe in vaccines for other diseases.
00:21:25.020 It just, when it comes to COVID, I haven't seen the evidence that would really prove to me that I need to go out and get my little kids vaccinated.
00:21:32.460 But again, it's up to each and every Canadian, and we should respect the decision that everyone makes one way or another.
00:21:38.060 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.
00:21:39.880 Candace Malcolm, and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.