The Candice Malcolm Show - May 15, 2025


No budget, no confidence vote, no accountability! Carney Cabinet is an absolute DUMPSTER FIRE


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

Words per Minute

193.93448

Word Count

6,222

Sentence Count

380

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Candace Malan is joined by political commentator Wyatt Claypool to discuss the bombshell dropped by Finance Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne that Canada will not be getting a budget this year, which means no hope of a new government this year.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. We have an excellent episode for you today, folks.
00:00:07.560 So it has just been a few days since Mark Carney has assembled his cabinet, this ragtag crew of recycled liberals.
00:00:14.760 It looks exactly the same as the Trudeau cabinet. There's a few new sort of star cabinet ministers, and yet they are each a disaster.
00:00:22.640 Each one is worse than the other. So anytime one of these people gets up in front of a microphone, speaks to reporters, the whole game is given away.
00:00:30.000 The whole idea that this has changed, that this represents some kind of new government, it is the exact same as the previous government.
00:00:36.780 And we are going to go through that today. Absolutely stunning news.
00:00:41.180 We learned that we will not have a budget this year, that Canada will not table a budget, which means no hope of a cabinet, of a confidence vote, no threat to the Carney government that they could go down before they even start.
00:00:53.060 We will show you all of the dirty tricks that the Liberal government is rolling out already.
00:00:56.900 And I'm very pleased today to be joined by Wyatt Claypool. Wyatt is a political commentator and founder of the National Telegraph based in Calgary.
00:01:04.680 Wyatt, thank you so much for joining the show.
00:01:07.180 Absolutely. I usually don't like talking about budget, so maybe Mark Carney did this for me because it makes it simpler to talk about.
00:01:14.680 But yeah, you know, you'd think that the, you know, the master businessman and the man who's worked as the governor of the Bank of Canada in England would be able to at least do the finances properly.
00:01:24.880 You know, they're not going to be great, but they're, you know, filed and formatted properly. But I guess not.
00:01:29.360 Well, it's just a total abdication of any responsibility. Like, how are you supposed to have any accountability?
00:01:35.020 How are you supposed to be held to account by the opposition if you're not even providing the basic information?
00:01:40.380 So let's just play this clip. This is Finance Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne speaking to CTV's Vassi Capellos, where he just sort of lets it out, lets this bombshell out that no, Canada will not be getting a budget this year. Let's play that clip.
00:01:55.080 I want to ask you explicitly, will there be an actual budget in 2025?
00:02:00.800 There will be a fall economic statement when we're coming back.
00:02:03.660 How are we as Canadians to hold your government accountable for what you're promising if you're not going to be transparent about it for six months or so?
00:02:10.540 And I take your point about the timeline. Throne speech, there's still another month.
00:02:13.920 And I would say this is a new government. So let's start, if we're going to start, this is a new government, new legislature, new prime minister.
00:02:19.960 So the direction is very clear. He's being very...
00:02:22.280 But you're still the finance minister.
00:02:23.020 Yeah, I'm still the finance minister. And I would say the world has changed also in six weeks. So Canadians understand that.
00:02:28.700 Canadians understand that. Okay, so let's go to X. Table Salt points this out.
00:02:32.520 Countries that are not doing an annual budget in 2025 include Afghanistan under the Taliban, North Korea, the Palestinian Authority under Hamas, Iraq, Iran, etc.
00:02:43.140 And yet Canada will not be doing one.
00:02:46.900 Well, Polyev issued a statement saying this. First, he said, parliament has already been shut down for nearly half a year.
00:02:54.460 Now, in the face of serious economic threats, the liberals don't intend to present a budget this year.
00:02:59.360 There is no red roadmap forward, no economic vision, no willingness to lead.
00:03:03.820 This is not the leadership Mark Carney promised. It's an abandonment.
00:03:07.840 Okay, and then he was also speaking to reporters earlier this morning, Wyatt, and here is what he had to say.
00:03:13.900 Mr. Carney said during the election campaign that he had a plan, and he took great delight in saying that a slogan is not a plan.
00:03:23.340 Well, a budget is a plan. And if he does indeed have a plan, if he does know what he's doing, then he would introduce a budget so that Canadians know exactly what the finances are.
00:03:34.980 Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth, sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.
00:03:44.740 Rich, creamy, chocolatey aero truffle. Feel the aero bubbles melt. It's mind bubbling.
00:03:51.760 And just one final piece of context that I wanted to add here, Wyatt, which is that we didn't really get one last year either.
00:03:58.540 Philippe Francois Champagne said that he that they had a fall economic update, but because they prorogued parliament, parts of that were never approved.
00:04:06.500 You can recall that in the middle of the election campaign, this bombshell was dropped.
00:04:11.160 This is from an account called Canada Spends. And I just want to point this out that it is run by a liberal, right?
00:04:16.380 This is not a right wing account. This is run by someone who used to work in the Trudeau government, who is just sick and tired of government's spending like there's no tomorrow.
00:04:25.940 So this is what the account writes. The government approved 40 billion dollars in spending from April 1st to May 15th through a special warrant.
00:04:34.360 This was done because parliament is prorogued. It's not possible to make appropriations.
00:04:38.280 The only information shared with Canadians is a list of departments in total and the total amount.
00:04:42.560 According to the document, the appropriate ministers have reported the payment of these sums is urgently required for the public good.
00:04:49.060 We'll leave it here for you to decide. And then they screenshot all of the amounts that each each ministry receive. Right.
00:04:57.080 And there's just no accountability. They never voted on this in our parliamentary system.
00:05:00.640 You're supposed to vote to approve budgets. You're supposed to vote to approve spending.
00:05:03.720 We didn't have that. And it looks like we're just not going to have it again.
00:05:06.740 I mean, if the conservatives were doing this, it would be a huge national scandal.
00:05:10.280 And every single news outlet, news agency and journalists in the legacy media would be like sounding the alarm.
00:05:16.740 And the liberals are doing it and they're just sort of getting away with it.
00:05:19.840 It's unbelievable that this is the state of Canada under the liberals in 2025.
00:05:24.000 What do you make of all this, Wyatt?
00:05:25.460 Well, I have to point out a few things about this.
00:05:27.340 One, it's completely asinine for Champagne to say, well, it's been a weird last six weeks.
00:05:33.240 So now we don't have to table a budget like we have tabled budgets in far bigger crises than we are currently in.
00:05:39.280 We're not even really in a crisis.
00:05:41.720 The whole trade war is kind of resolved.
00:05:44.300 There's kind of a blanket, there's kind of a blanket, a tariff that Donald Trump has put on pretty much any imports.
00:05:51.720 So that should be very easily baked in to our budget.
00:05:54.960 But again, like we've been able to put together budgets in far worse scenarios.
00:05:59.280 Based on this, they could just never pass a budget because if this is considered something unprecedented,
00:06:05.200 we're living in unprecedented times and we have to wait six months.
00:06:07.580 Are times going to stop being unprecedented by this standard in six months and now they can finally pass a budget?
00:06:14.640 And yeah, the last time they did this was in COVID where they didn't pass a budget in 2020.
00:06:19.440 So that was considered like a really big deal then.
00:06:21.960 Are we even in a 2020 scenario right now where they're going to have to budget people staying home and not actually working anymore?
00:06:30.840 Like obviously not.
00:06:32.100 And then consider on top of this that we've already had a credit downgrade under the final year of Justin Trudeau as well as Mark Carney's advisorship over the economy.
00:06:44.620 So why are we thinking that this is not going to result in us going from, I believe we went from AAA to AA plus.
00:06:51.000 We could end up just going to AA over the next year or so because we're not actually being, we're not taking any steps to make any credit raging agency think that we're actually trying to get back on the horse.
00:07:03.400 We just don't seem to care.
00:07:04.780 And also with the OIC, $33 billion that the government spent, both them and their defenders at the CBC tried to make it seem like, no, no, no, this is just to bridge the gap before we table the budget in a few weeks.
00:07:17.840 And I already knew that was nonsense because you'd only need about 5% of your budget for each department to be given to them to bridge a gap for a couple weeks and then put forward a budget.
00:07:27.640 I noticed that the CBC in that, uh, readout of where money went was given $178 billion.
00:07:35.900 Now they get about a billion of their budget every single year for taxpayers.
00:07:40.860 So why do they need 17.8% of their budget given to them all at once?
00:07:46.660 If this is just to bridge the gap, it was obviously to give strategic, like money strategically to departments that the government favored with a little bit of money to bridge the gap.
00:07:56.580 Until they now they give up more money in an OIC.
00:08:00.080 And this is going to be probably a way of baiting and switching Canadians where you can kind of give small lump sums of money all year long through OICs.
00:08:09.300 And it's going to be very difficult for the average citizen to be able to kind of keep up with, well, how much has each department been given?
00:08:16.100 Because in theory he could give the CBC as an example, 2 billion, but it's in 5 billion, 10 billion, 50 billion chunks as time goes on.
00:08:26.500 And it allows them to basically spend like it's a credit card rather than actually having to, you know, follow a budget like a responsible household or business would do.
00:08:35.340 I don't know.
00:08:36.980 But Mark Carney's good at this, I've been told, by Rosemary Barton.
00:08:40.780 Well, you're so right.
00:08:42.180 Like, I think it's designed to just completely avoid accountability, right?
00:08:45.980 Like, if you pass a budget, it has to be approved.
00:08:49.600 It has to be passed in a confidence vote.
00:08:52.080 And that puts the government at risk of falling before they've even really gotten going.
00:08:55.860 And so it avoids them having to cobble together a plurality or like a coalition to get to a majority.
00:09:01.960 And it just allows them to continue as they go.
00:09:05.220 And to the point of the crisis, right?
00:09:06.580 Like, I was told that Mark Carney was great in a crisis.
00:09:09.840 I was told that that is how he thrives.
00:09:12.120 And so yet here we are in the first week, really, of his government.
00:09:15.080 And he's saying, his finance ministers out there saying that, no, no, no, it's too rushed.
00:09:19.620 We can't put together a budget.
00:09:21.160 Like, the basic core duty of a government is to do that.
00:09:25.140 And yet this man that's supposed to be like always under pressure and in a crisis is basically shrugging and saying,
00:09:30.720 we just can't do it maybe next year.
00:09:32.580 It's really unbelievable.
00:09:33.440 OK, I want to keep going on because that was just that's just dipping our toe in the water of the complete disaster show that is this cabinet so far.
00:09:42.100 So as well, yesterday speaking to reporters in Ottawa, Canada's new housing minister.
00:09:47.140 This is a new face federally, although those of us from British Columbia know this man very well as a socialist mayor of Vancouver, Mr.
00:09:54.660 Bike Lines himself.
00:09:55.460 And here he is, Gregor Robertson, the new housing minister, saying that, no, no, our goal is not to actually lower housing prices to make it more affordable for young people to be able to afford their first home.
00:10:05.960 No, no, no.
00:10:06.480 We want to keep the prices sky high.
00:10:08.200 We just want to build more and, hey, throw in some government housing in there.
00:10:12.200 Let's play this clip.
00:10:13.380 Affordable housing.
00:10:14.200 You think prices need to go down?
00:10:16.580 No, I think that we need to deliver more supply.
00:10:19.020 Make sure the market is stable.
00:10:21.040 It's a huge part of our economy.
00:10:22.480 We need to be delivering more affordable housing.
00:10:25.740 I think it shows that he doesn't know the first thing about economics, right?
00:10:28.500 Because he's saying, like, the question to him is, should I want housing prices to go down?
00:10:31.820 He says, no, no, we just have to stable them by increasing supply.
00:10:34.120 Well, the whole idea is that if you do increase the supply to match the demand, the prices will automatically go down because there won't be such a shortage, right?
00:10:42.200 The costs have gone up because there's an artificial shortage in housing because we've flooded the country with new immigrants at the same time as just refusing to really grow to keep up with the growth.
00:10:51.040 And here, like, this is also something that drives me crazy about these socialist types is that they think that the answer is like a government program, right?
00:10:59.900 So he says we need more affordable housing.
00:11:01.760 Read into that.
00:11:03.020 They want more rentals that are subsidized, right?
00:11:05.620 They want, like, price controls on rentals so that some families who get into this program can afford to pay the rent because it's artificially lowered by the government.
00:11:13.640 That doesn't solve the problem of young Canadians getting locked out of the housing market.
00:11:17.720 That doesn't solve the problem of people not being able to find a house in a safe neighborhood to raise their families.
00:11:23.040 Like, to me, this is just going to be an absolute disaster putting someone like Gregor Robertson in the housing portfolio.
00:11:28.700 What do you think, Wyatt?
00:11:29.600 Well, it's like Mark Carney saw, like, Sean Frazier as housing minister.
00:11:33.760 And when someone thought there couldn't be possibly anyone worse for that role, he said, hold my beer.
00:11:38.460 And he ended up finding this guy, dragging him out of retirement, saying, this will make sure that people are confident that our government's going to do a good job.
00:11:46.460 And here, they kicked out Nate Erskine-Smith as housing minister when he only came back to run for re-election under the promise that they would let him be housing minister.
00:11:57.120 Now, I disagree with Nate Erskine-Smith on pretty much everything.
00:12:01.620 At the same time, it's like Mark Carney is a career politician in the sense that he may have not been in office for very long,
00:12:09.560 but he has a lot of the flaws that you would normally associate with a really bad quality, like, career politician.
00:12:17.040 He wants to be around people in his government that he likes to talk to and that he pairs up with well.
00:12:22.960 It doesn't matter if they're incompetent.
00:12:24.380 He just picks people he's friends with and maybe he doesn't jive very well with Nate.
00:12:28.840 So Nate's not in and now Gregor Roberts gets in because maybe Mark Carney knew him from back in the day.
00:12:34.820 So his cabinet, at best, is full of dumb and pretty people that he likes to hang out with.
00:12:40.500 But we don't actually have anyone who has a track record of success in any field.
00:12:46.180 And sometimes they're even moving up to more complicated departments.
00:12:50.340 Well, plucking the former mayor of Vancouver, I mean, Vancouver is, like, ground zero, like, patient zero in terms of unaffordable housing.
00:12:56.820 Like, it's the least affordable housing market in the country.
00:13:00.220 The rest of the country is starting to catch up to Vancouver, but Vancouver has been dealing with this problem since Gregor Robertson has been mayor, if not thereafter.
00:13:07.760 Okay, let's go ahead.
00:13:08.880 By the way, though, the prices in Vancouver spiked, like, 178% or something crazy, like, more than double when he was mayor during the housing crash.
00:13:19.640 He somehow increased prices during the housing crash.
00:13:23.260 That is some sort of wizardry.
00:13:25.240 Right. Well, I mean, that's what happens, again, when you have your borders completely open and you allow, like, speculative investors from foreign countries to just swoop in and buy single-family homes.
00:13:35.500 And then the regulations are so tight that you won't allow anything different to be built.
00:13:39.660 Okay, I want to move on to Stephen Galbault because many people might have, like, breathed the sigh of relief that this guy is no longer the environment minister.
00:13:46.700 He has been given a new portfolio called the Canadian Identity Minister, okay?
00:13:51.280 And yet, when he was speaking to reporters yesterday, he just couldn't help himself.
00:13:55.560 Why? He couldn't help himself.
00:13:56.920 And he doubled down on his crazed environmentalism, saying that there is no appetite, that investors will simply not pay for new pipelines.
00:14:05.320 Let's play that clip.
00:14:05.900 Before we start talking about building an entire new pipeline, maybe we should maximize the use of existing infrastructure.
00:14:14.880 And the Canadian Energy Regulator, as well as the International Energy Agency, are telling us that probably by 2028, 2029, demand for oil will peak globally.
00:14:24.840 And it will also peak in Canada.
00:14:27.460 So, as far as I know, there are no investors right now.
00:14:29.840 There are no companies that are saying that they want to build an east-west pipeline.
00:14:33.060 And, as you know, these things are built by companies.
00:14:36.620 Man, this guy is living in the past.
00:14:38.000 I haven't heard that phrase, peak oil, I think, since, like, the 2000s, right?
00:14:41.200 But he's repeating all of the old favorite scaremongering from the far left.
00:14:45.300 So, Danielle Smith, Premier of Alberta, jumped in on that one.
00:14:48.180 She writes this on X.
00:14:49.060 She says,
00:14:49.340 Canada's new identity minister, Stephen Galbault, just deceived Canadians, saying,
00:14:53.780 We don't need more pipelines because the Trans Mountain pipeline is only 40% full and peak oil will be here in two years.
00:14:59.900 The facts are that TMX, which just opened and wouldn't have been built entirely,
00:15:04.780 sorry, and would have been built entirely with private sector dollars if Ottawa hadn't made it impossible for the original proponent to build it,
00:15:11.400 is already close to capacity.
00:15:12.940 Further, most estimates of demand for bitumen shows it growing for several decades and that it will be needed to replace declining U.S. conventional oil fields.
00:15:21.320 This is just another example of how misleading and destructive this former environment minister was to Alberta's and Canada's economy and investment climate.
00:15:29.380 We ask for the new environment minister to disavow these comments and commit to working with Alberta to build new pipelines to access markets.
00:15:38.240 Why on earth is this fool talking about pipelines?
00:15:40.960 Like, he was removed from that portfolio.
00:15:43.340 Mark Carney is out there presumably saying to people in Alberta, like, cool, like, it's OK.
00:15:48.420 We're going to be more pro-energy and more pro-pipelines than the predecessors.
00:15:53.740 And yet, he has this guy out here speaking like that.
00:15:57.860 What do you make of it, Wyatt?
00:15:58.980 Well, the fact he feels like he can speak about it so confidently means probably a shared view within Cabinet.
00:16:04.600 If he was taken aside and says, like, you are on this new file, you cannot talk about this anymore, he wouldn't probably talk about it.
00:16:11.520 He's doing this because this is probably just the common belief that's within Cabinet.
00:16:16.360 Also, this is just what I would consider, like, a Maxwell Fawcett-ism of whenever you're trying to, like, run down the oil and gas industry, you just pretend there's no business case for it.
00:16:28.880 In this case, he's just lying about the 40% capacity.
00:16:31.740 But whenever, like, oh, well, an oil and gas project didn't go forward or this oil and gas company just shut down.
00:16:38.540 See, there's no business case.
00:16:39.680 It's like, wow, I can't believe that when you shoot the industry in the head, it might actually have a bit of a headache and a little bit harder time being able to get going over the next few years.
00:16:50.480 At the same time, these people are totally fine with subsidizing renewable green energy projects everywhere, despite the fact that they would never have any investment unless the government was backing it up with subsidies at the same time.
00:17:04.340 Oftentimes, giving them way more money in subsidies than they're actually having to even invest in the project.
00:17:10.640 We're going to get to that in a few minutes when we get to Melanie Jolie and her comments.
00:17:13.920 But I just want to follow up once more on these Stéphane Gelbeau comments.
00:17:17.780 So earlier, Danielle Smith had also raised her concerns with his predecessor, who is, sorry, with his successor, who's the newly appointed environment minister, Julie Debrusen.
00:17:30.120 Smith writes this.
00:17:31.480 She says they put out a release yesterday saying not only is she a self-proclaimed architect of the designation of plastics as toxic, but she is a staunch advocate against the oil sands, a proponent of phasing out oil and gas.
00:17:44.860 And for the last four years, she served as the right hand to former environment minister and militant environmentalist Stephen Gelbeau.
00:17:51.800 So, yes, Smith asked her to disavow Gelbeau, but presumably she won't.
00:17:56.600 They're part of the same team.
00:17:58.020 And she served as his deputy when he was the environment minister.
00:18:02.040 Just earlier this morning, we also had Pierre Polyev commenting on this.
00:18:06.200 So speaking to reporters in Ottawa, Polyev responded directly to these claims from Stephen Gelbeau.
00:18:13.200 Let's play that clip.
00:18:13.700 I just find it astonishing that Mr. Carney would appoint a man who says we don't need any pipelines built.
00:18:21.260 The Liberals went around the country pretending they had changed their minds about pipelines after 10 years of blocking them.
00:18:27.740 But now one of Mr. Carney's top ministers comes out and says we don't need any more pipelines and that he would work to block those pipelines.
00:18:37.280 So really just saying what needs to be said here.
00:18:41.300 OK, I want to move on, Wyatt, because we also have Anita Anand, who is the new foreign affairs minister.
00:18:46.940 And I think she really put her foot in her mouth when she talks about what is happening in Israel and Gaza.
00:18:53.320 She basically blames everything, right, the entire war on Israel.
00:18:58.120 Let's play that clip.
00:18:59.900 Israel is blocking food and aid to Gaza.
00:19:02.080 What do you think of that decision?
00:19:03.860 And is the Canadian government doing anything to stop that?
00:19:06.480 We cannot allow the continued use of food as a political tool.
00:19:15.180 The Prime Minister has been very clear about that.
00:19:19.440 Over 50,000 people have died as a result of the aggression caused against the Palestinian and the Gazan people in Palestine.
00:19:33.200 And using food as a political tool is simply unacceptable.
00:19:39.140 So you have to be so careful with your words when you're a minister.
00:19:43.380 I didn't like that question at all, blaming Israel for so-called, like, blocking food and aid against the Palestinians.
00:19:49.280 But everyone knows what's going on.
00:19:51.080 Look, I'm not a fan of war.
00:19:52.320 I don't want that war to continue.
00:19:53.760 I think that enough is enough.
00:19:55.600 But we've seen Hamas.
00:19:57.640 They steal the aid, right?
00:19:59.280 We know what they do, right?
00:20:00.820 So this idea that Israel is to blame and she says that these people have died as a result of aggression caused against them.
00:20:09.160 Well, where did that aggression come from?
00:20:10.200 It came from the October 7th attacks, obviously.
00:20:13.460 And, again, just the way it's framed, pretty gross.
00:20:16.880 One more for you here, Wyatt, which is that Chrystia Freeland, you know, the woman that just won't go away.
00:20:22.280 I mistakenly said that she was put back as the Minister of Trade on the show.
00:20:27.160 I think it was yesterday.
00:20:28.140 She's actually interprovincial trade.
00:20:29.700 So it is a huge demotion, right?
00:20:30.940 She went from trade minister up to foreign affairs minister, up to finance minister and deputy prime minister,
00:20:36.060 and now all the way back down the ladder to interprovincial trade.
00:20:39.420 But that's okay.
00:20:39.920 Chrystia Freeland is taking it all in stride.
00:20:41.440 Here she is saying that they're going to make trade sexy again.
00:20:45.080 Let's play this clip.
00:20:46.020 I'm especially excited about internal trade.
00:20:50.320 This is something that Canadian economists, Canadian geeks have been talking about for decades.
00:20:56.680 Entire books have been written about it.
00:20:58.980 The IMF has estimated that lifting all barriers to internal trade will add as much as 4% to our GDP.
00:21:07.800 That is a lot, and we need it right now.
00:21:10.580 And I really believe this is a moment we can get it done.
00:21:15.960 Internal trade has become sexy.
00:21:18.740 It has!
00:21:21.640 So cringe.
00:21:23.280 What do you think?
00:21:23.520 She's also the Minister of Transport.
00:21:24.900 Maybe they threw Speed Racer into that role because of her driving abilities out in Alberta.
00:21:30.180 Honestly, just like every clip is worse than the last one.
00:21:36.920 It's unbelievable that all of the incompetent people go back.
00:21:40.040 It's just turned into Veep.
00:21:41.640 The whole thing is just people who are just not very good at their jobs saying kind of flowery, idealistic things right before, like, face planting into the ground when it comes to their actual job performance.
00:21:53.640 Like, none of these people, like Anita Anand back with the Israel question, it's like, be an adult.
00:22:00.540 Figure out how to, like, this is, I meet a lot of incompetent politicians.
00:22:05.860 And everyone, and you're just sitting there like, oh my goodness, someone in your office is holding your hand every day.
00:22:11.460 Because you can't even, like, you can't even think on your feet for the most basic thing you should say for this question.
00:22:18.880 How are you going to actually do, like, how are you going to, like, engage in any diplomacy as the Foreign Affairs Minister?
00:22:25.380 Or how are you going to do any inter-provincial, sign an inter-provincial trade deal when you seem like you couldn't actually get through a normal question period, like, without, like, falling all over yourself?
00:22:35.980 Okay, speaking of Veep, I think this might be the best Veep clip of the day.
00:22:40.120 This comes from our new Innovation, Science, and Industry Minister, Melanie Jolie, sounding just like a total idiot here.
00:22:46.400 So she's asked about the potential plant closures when it comes to auto plants vis-a-vis the tariffs.
00:22:53.200 And she's really excited about the government's plan here in the wake of really bad news.
00:22:58.040 Let's play this clip.
00:22:58.840 So I've already been in contact with the CEOs of GM, Ford, and also Stellantis.
00:23:04.860 My goal is to be able to have good conversations with them before the end of the week.
00:23:10.520 My message to the workers in the auto sector is we're there for you.
00:23:14.920 We know that there's anxiety.
00:23:16.700 We know you're concerned about losing shifts.
00:23:19.020 We know we were concerned about losing your jobs.
00:23:21.500 And we will always fight for your jobs.
00:23:23.700 Notwithstanding that, we also have a $2 billion worth of support for the industry, the auto industry, the steel and aluminum industries that are affected by the trade war.
00:23:35.340 One of my first decisions will be also to make sure that the workers can benefit from these investments.
00:23:42.500 Merci.
00:23:43.500 I can never tell with her whether she's just, like, really nervous and can barely make it through a sentence because she's just so bad at this.
00:23:51.240 Or if maybe she's, like, on drugs or something.
00:23:53.380 I don't know.
00:23:53.680 What do you think, Wyatt?
00:23:54.620 Well, just platitudes.
00:23:56.620 Just platitudes.
00:23:57.560 I've been sitting down with GM Stellantis and who cares?
00:24:02.000 Who cares?
00:24:02.440 Did you get anything from those meetings?
00:24:04.720 Did you have any plan to cut taxes?
00:24:07.200 Really, 80% of the time, whenever somebody is talking who's in government, who's a minister, if they're not talking about tax reductions, they're just screwing up everything.
00:24:18.080 Every single department in the government right now should just be, like, figuring out ways of reducing taxes, reducing regulatory burden.
00:24:25.800 If you're scared of jobs being sucked over the border into the United States.
00:24:29.700 But all these people are like, we talked with Stellantis.
00:24:32.420 Who cares?
00:24:33.420 Who cares that you had a cup of coffee with them?
00:24:35.400 I don't think that actually does.
00:24:36.660 We're fighting for workers.
00:24:39.200 How do you cut the workers' taxes?
00:24:40.820 Like, I never understand why this is, like, a dirty word in government.
00:24:43.640 Like, I know Mark Carney's technically cutting taxes right now, but I don't think exactly giving everyone 400 bucks back is going to save the economy.
00:24:50.780 Well, it's so interesting because it's the exact opposite approach, as you mentioned earlier, to pipelines, right?
00:24:54.700 So when it comes to pipelines, they're just like, oh, well, we just create all these regulations and there's no business case.
00:24:58.940 The businesses just don't want to build these pipelines in Canada anymore.
00:25:01.440 That's not our fault.
00:25:02.020 That's their fault, right?
00:25:03.660 Completely ignoring all of their own policies.
00:25:06.240 And yet when it comes to auto manufacturers, it's like they're literally just bribing them with our money, paying them billions and billions of dollars to please keep your businesses in Canada so that we can have jobs for these people.
00:25:19.060 And even with all those subsidies over the years, the companies are like, yeah, no, you're not a good business environment.
00:25:24.920 Like, it's like, hello, it is your regulations and your taxes that drive these people away.
00:25:29.720 No amount of, you know, special subsidies is going to keep them.
00:25:32.960 And just for some background, I mean, oh, sorry, just one more point about her.
00:25:36.600 That she's just, like, super excited about their $2 billion, like, EI, basically, top-up fund.
00:25:41.900 Like, I'm sorry, if you're about to lose your job, the fact that they have $2 billion, like, that's not going to go very far when you're talking about tens of thousands of laid-off employees, right?
00:25:50.200 This doesn't really help you.
00:25:51.280 Like, you don't want welfare.
00:25:52.200 You want a job, right?
00:25:53.280 And so the whole idea that she's—
00:25:54.600 It's just organization-building policy to keep people at home on their couches.
00:25:58.260 Well, it's terrible, right?
00:25:59.360 And so, yeah, if you are an autoworker, you should be nervous under this government, and you should be angry with your compatriots for voting in another liberal government.
00:26:07.620 And obviously, the background here is that we learned that this Honda plant is closing.
00:26:11.340 So JGenXer on X reminded us—here's Justin Trudeau—post saying Honda, Stellantis, NorthVolk, Volkswagen, Asshai, and Kasai, these are big companies that can choose to build anywhere, and they're choosing Canada.
00:26:24.560 Well, how's that going, he writes.
00:26:26.540 So how are these liberal investments going?
00:26:28.300 Norfolk just went bankrupt.
00:26:29.400 Honda shelved its EV project for two years.
00:26:31.980 Stellantis halted production, shifted 1,500 jobs to Illinois.
00:26:35.080 Volkswagen battery plant is now facing major delays.
00:26:37.860 Because billions of dollars in taxpayer money are circling in the drain.
00:26:41.900 And who was likely behind many of these investments advising?
00:26:44.560 Justin Trudeau, every step of the way.
00:26:45.820 Well, that, of course, would be Mark Carney, your new prime minister.
00:26:48.060 Like, this strategy is just a failed strategy.
00:26:50.180 Let's stop with the corporate welfare.
00:26:51.780 Let's stop bribing these companies.
00:26:53.520 This is kind of part of the reason that got us into this whole mess with President Trump, Wyatt, is that Canada just loves to subsidize different industries.
00:27:00.740 And that is what Trump is talking about when he says that countries like Canada are cheating.
00:27:05.100 It's like, yeah, we are paying all of this taxpayer money to try to prop up America's competition.
00:27:11.200 And he's saying, you know, I'm going to combat that with terrorists.
00:27:14.540 And yet Canada's response is just to do more of the same.
00:27:17.620 What do you think?
00:27:18.860 Well, it's letting the Americans take our jobs in the long run in the sense that when it's honestly what happened in the American auto industry in the 70s.
00:27:26.000 When you prop up, when you protect an industry and you subsidize it for decades and that industry is allowed to become inefficient and bloated, unions end up taking over the entire labor side of the industry.
00:27:40.900 And then suddenly there's increased competition like the Americans are pushing us for, or at least they'll tariff us back because we're effectively subsidizing our own industry to keep it here.
00:27:51.360 Well, the whole thing is going to evaporate in a second because the thing is not actually built on like a solid foundation.
00:27:57.500 It's built just on subsidies that can burn up in a second.
00:28:01.100 It's just built on, you know, like easy money.
00:28:04.300 People will rather go and build a company in a place that's going to be more stable in the long run, even if we're offering money because it's too much of a headache.
00:28:13.900 Taxes keep going up or regulations keep going up in this country.
00:28:17.420 So even if when you get money, you require more money every single year to stick around.
00:28:22.920 They can't just keep giving a billion every single year to a car company.
00:28:26.300 They've got to give $1.2 billion, $1.4 billion the next year and the next year because the liberals can only ever justify more rules, more regulations, more taxes, whatnot like that.
00:28:38.200 Okay, I want to end the show on a fun note.
00:28:40.300 We're going to move entirely away from Canadian politics and go to something totally different.
00:28:44.700 So Brett Cooper, who is a YouTuber and sort of former Daily Wire personality, a young Gen Z conservative, she has been doing a tour and she was at a show in Phoenix, Arizona last weekend.
00:28:59.060 And I want to play this clip because I just think it is so remarkable for so many reasons.
00:29:03.140 So first, let's play this clip of Brett Cooper in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:29:06.260 Um, because what I'm about to do tonight, I've never done before, um, ever, I'm literally like shaking right now, but I think you guys should know that the special guest is already on stage.
00:29:36.260 So I'll tell you why I love this, right?
00:29:41.440 This is a young, successful sort of career to Gen Z woman.
00:29:45.860 And yet when she announces to her fans and to her audience that she's pregnant, she gets this like huge, like heroes applaud.
00:29:52.120 Like people are so happy for her, right?
00:29:53.940 And this is the kind of response that you would tend to get from like your friend group or your family when you tell them you're pregnant, if you have been like really trying to get pregnant.
00:30:00.760 And to me, it signals like this cultural shift, right?
00:30:03.880 Like for me and millennials, it seems like everything that was told to us, all the messaging from the culture was like girl boss, you know, go into the, you could achieve anything and go into any line of work and career, career, career.
00:30:16.220 And I think that the culture is shifting and that women are being told that it's a great thing to be a mother and that our culture is celebrating it again.
00:30:23.860 I'm really excited and happy for young women like Brett Cooper for sort of like paving this new path that yes, there's like no shame in being a mother.
00:30:31.580 So actually it's like the most wonderful, amazing thing.
00:30:34.120 And so seeing this reaction from her audience brought me a lot of joy.
00:30:37.660 What do you think, Wyatt?
00:30:38.960 Well, I'm going to, I'll, I'll, I'll agree with everything you said, but then also counter by saying I'm the most socially awkward person I know.
00:30:45.920 So I always think I was watching that.
00:30:47.320 I was like, okay, well, I don't know what to do with this information.
00:30:49.600 I'd be like the person in the back, like, I guess that's good.
00:30:53.900 Like, I don't know.
00:30:55.000 People tell me good news and I just like shut down.
00:30:57.140 And I'm like, okay, I guess so.
00:30:59.620 Cool.
00:31:00.000 Yeah.
00:31:00.480 Well, it's also kind of funny because she's like, she doesn't really look pregnant, right?
00:31:03.860 She's probably like just maybe a few months along.
00:31:07.260 And, but I think she was thinking that she looked huge because when you're pregnant, you always feel like you're bigger than you are.
00:31:12.300 So I think she was expecting it to be really obvious when she turned to the side, but she doesn't really have baby bump yet.
00:31:18.280 So that was just another tidbit to make you feel even more awkward, Wyatt.
00:31:21.460 Yeah, it is a cultural shift in the sense that that's probably something that someone would mention like, you know, decades ago.
00:31:29.380 And that would be like a big celebration for someone who was like a news anchor or something like that.
00:31:33.380 But these days it's kind of considered like, you know, that's gross.
00:31:36.900 But like, I don't tell me about that or people don't like the subject of like kids because they want any adult subject being brought up because, you know, that might make them feel like they're, you know, they actually need to take their lives more seriously.
00:31:48.020 But, you know, people are actually taking their lives more seriously in their, you know, the 20s now, which is good.
00:31:53.340 It's absolutely good.
00:31:54.800 And I think that it's great for the culture.
00:31:57.320 OK, Wyatt, thanks so much for joining us.
00:31:58.820 Really appreciate your time.
00:31:59.720 It's Wyatt Claypool of the National Telegraph.
00:32:02.340 I'm Candice Malcolm.
00:32:02.880 This is Candice Malcolm Show.
00:32:03.820 Thank you and God bless.