The Candice Malcolm Show - April 04, 2022


Ontario braces for the “sixth wave”! (Ft. Sue-Ann Levy)


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00:00:00.040 Ontario is now bracing for the dreaded sixth wave of COVID. Yes, you heard that correct,
00:00:04.700 the sixth wave. Will we continue to repeat the exact same mistakes over and over again?
00:00:09.560 Have we learned anything from the past two years? I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice
00:00:13.400 Malcolm Show. Everyone, thank you so much for tuning into the program. So yes, it's been
00:00:28.760 more than two years since we were told two weeks to flatten the curve. Yet here we are in April 2022,
00:00:35.160 and the reaction to another wave of COVID is as if nothing has changed. So many people go back to
00:00:40.780 the same default position that we need masks, we need lockdowns, and we need more vaccines. Nothing
00:00:46.480 has changed despite everything that we've learned over the past two years. So to help me break down
00:00:52.360 the latest in Ontario and to figure out what is going on with the sixth wave of COVID is True North
00:00:57.460 own Sue Ann Levy. As you know, Sue Ann is an investigative journalist and reporter here
00:01:01.780 at True North. She recently retired after 30 years of investigative reporting with the Toronto Sun and
00:01:06.820 Post Media. She's a two-time investigative award-winning journalist, nine-time winner of
00:01:11.540 Toronto Sun's Reader's Choice Award and for News Writer of the Year. So Sue Ann, thank you so much for
00:01:17.080 joining us today. Oh, you're welcome. Very welcome. So since the pandemic began, you've been reporting
00:01:23.440 on so many issues that we've had with public health restrictions, with the government's default
00:01:29.420 restrictions when it comes to COVID. So many times they are contradictory, they're nonsensical,
00:01:34.840 they'll recommend one thing one week, and then something totally different a week later. So
00:01:40.220 what do you make of this latest sort of fear mongering that we're seeing over, I suppose, I mean,
00:01:45.800 I don't even know what happened. You know, I thought the fourth wave was Omicron. I don't know what the
00:01:50.120 fifth wave was, but all of a sudden now we're into a sixth wave, apparently. And a lot of people are
00:01:54.540 beating the same drum that we need to restrict and make some of the same mistakes we've made all
00:01:59.920 along. What do you make of it, Sue Ann? Well, you know, the interesting thing is those who do get
00:02:04.580 COVID, and at this point, if they've had two or three, if they've been boosted like me, then it would
00:02:10.700 be very, very mild, I think, in most cases. Now they're announcing on social media, and it just
00:02:18.220 is nauseating. They're announcing on social media that they have COVID as if they've joined some
00:02:23.520 secret club, you know, some secret cult. And the other thing is, you know, the implication is that
00:02:30.300 now that kids are unmasked in schools, that this is causing this sixth wave. You know, the problem is
00:02:38.220 that you've got all these lefty doctors, these politicians, fearful politicians, who listen to the
00:02:44.480 same people over and over and over again. And the lefty doctors don't want to give up their 15
00:02:49.020 minutes of fame. I hate to sound cynical, but that's what it's all about. It's so interesting,
00:02:53.880 because I had a sort of contrarian minded doctor on the show a couple weeks ago, Dr. Matt Strauss,
00:02:59.980 and he was very opposed to masking. He said that there just isn't the data when it comes to the
00:03:04.640 research. It shows that anyone under the age of 50, anyone wearing a cloth mask, these things don't
00:03:10.100 actually help prevent COVID. It's kind of like a security blanket on your face. And yet you find
00:03:14.920 so many doctors on the other side saying, yes, we need these precautions, we need these measures,
00:03:20.900 especially for little kids who are at such small, small risk of developing any serious illness
00:03:25.980 from COVID. I mean, you wrote a piece about masks in schools saying with masking, it's time to leave
00:03:36.140 the kids alone. What do you have to say when it comes to this idea that little kids have to wear
00:03:42.700 masks? Well, some of them have only known masking for the last two years in schools. And, you know,
00:03:47.960 you've got to think about the other side, you got to think about the social implications,
00:03:51.580 the fact that people can't see each other's faces. You know, maybe adults want to hide behind masks,
00:03:57.300 but they can't see each other's faces. It's very kind of antisocial. And like you said,
00:04:03.740 first of all, there's two things. The risk of young kids, the statistics have proven it,
00:04:09.440 the risk of young kids actually picking up, first of all, picking up COVID and then actually getting
00:04:15.640 really sick from it is very low. We know that this has been a disease of the elderly. You know,
00:04:21.320 I've tracked the statistics over the last two years, we've lost an enormous number of people in
00:04:26.100 long-term care homes, enormous number of seniors in retirement homes. This is not a disease or a virus
00:04:32.560 of the young. And the other thing is that, you know, masking them is, it's just not good for their
00:04:39.440 mental health and wellbeing. And nobody wants to think about the other side, you know, about the
00:04:46.560 mental issues that have arisen as a result of COVID and the lockdowns and the masking. And you're
00:04:54.180 right. A cloth diaper on your face does not protect you. I mean, for me, I wore it and went along with
00:05:02.700 it because I knew that I had to. And I thought, you know, this is ridiculous, but if everybody else is
00:05:09.680 doing it and it's a mandate, then you have to, as soon as I got down to Florida, off came the mask,
00:05:16.980 because, you know, the other thing is wearing the mask, I think, doesn't protect you. You know,
00:05:24.180 it doesn't make you immune to other things that are flying in the air. I mean, you're, you're,
00:05:29.280 you know, closing up your, your, your nose, your mouth, and you're, you're not breathing in things
00:05:36.020 normally. And, you know, I have to wonder about your immunity to everything else.
00:05:42.520 It's so true. My, my son goes to a little preschool, he's three years old, and he goes
00:05:46.720 to preschool for two hours in the morning. And they make the kids wear masks, which just drives
00:05:52.140 me absolutely crazy. But it's funny, because the kids all still get sick, right? Like, like,
00:05:58.960 my son comes home with a runny nose, you know, like half the kids in his class have a runny nose,
00:06:03.800 like the idea that the mask would stop anyone from, from, from anything. I mean, it's, it's just,
00:06:10.380 it's, it's, to, to me, it's, it's unconscionable that they still make kids wear it. And for myself,
00:06:16.500 I, I don't even send my son every day, because I don't like the idea that he is wearing a mask. I,
00:06:21.520 I argue with the teachers and the administrators, and they say, well, you know, it's not really up
00:06:25.500 to us. It's, it's frustrating that they still force kids to do that. And, and, and to your point,
00:06:31.660 you know, when, when we first, two years ago, when we were first told two weeks to flatten the curve,
00:06:35.620 we didn't really know anything about COVID, right? We just thought, okay, this is a strange
00:06:39.000 virus from China, let's, let's be as precautious as possible. You know, we started to learn the data
00:06:46.240 fairly quickly, that, that, that the majority of the deaths were coming in long-term care facilities,
00:06:50.240 that, you know, that, that, that little kids didn't, that little kids were basically not at risk of
00:06:58.920 dying from COVID. The, the, the, the numbers were so minuscule, so small, um, the, the comorbidities
00:07:04.660 or the, the underlying conditions that people had with COVID deaths, uh, was so stark. And, and yet,
00:07:10.200 it seems like the, the public policy hasn't really adjusted to address that, Sue Ann. It's, you know,
00:07:16.900 to your point, you, you say that these are lefty doctors and lefty teachers and administrators.
00:07:22.140 Usually people on the left are the ones that care about mental health and, and, and these kind of like
00:07:26.620 secondary, uh, impacts. And yet when it comes to COVID, they, they don't really focus on,
00:07:32.700 you know, the, the, the, the way that little kids aren't able to communicate the potential,
00:07:37.420 uh, you know, speech impediments or, or communication barriers that can be developed,
00:07:43.180 the long-term impact for mental health on young, on young kids and teenagers.
00:07:47.820 Like, I, I just don't really understand why they're still beating the same drum, why they don't
00:07:52.280 see the broader picture and, and, you know, why they're so, uh, tunnel vision focused on,
00:07:57.800 on COVID. What, why do you think that is? Oh, I think that the fear mongering has created this,
00:08:03.680 as I said, in the column for true North, I think it's created this group, this, I don't want to say
00:08:10.240 nation, but certainly as a select group of people. And I find particularly in Toronto and big city
00:08:17.480 of a COVID obsessed hypochondriacs. They think every sniffle, every sneeze, every cough is related
00:08:26.440 to COVID. And it's almost in some ways narcissistic, but they're, they're just fearful. Uh, they parade
00:08:34.960 on social media with their masks on, uh, they, you know, they're outside with masks. It defies
00:08:42.500 all logic. And I, I think people have just been, uh, so indoctrinated by our politicians,
00:08:49.820 so indoctrinated by public health, by lefty doctors that, um, they're just downright fearful.
00:08:56.900 And it's a bunch of sheep. They're a bunch of sheep, but you know, there was an NDP, um, I guess,
00:09:03.640 rally yesterday in Toronto and no one could come unless they produced their vaccine cards. It was
00:09:12.080 outside by the way, um, at the evergreen brickworks, which is a lovely place and it's all outdoors and
00:09:19.360 they had to wear masks to attend. It was insane. It just defies logic, but you know, they're clinging
00:09:27.820 on. I don't know whether it's, you know, a way of controlling people, uh, intimidating the crowd,
00:09:35.760 but I think people are speaking up and saying enough. I, and you know, I have had people attack
00:09:42.200 me on social media for suggesting enough is enough. Um, don't you care about health? Don't you care
00:09:49.220 about little children, big children as seniors? I wear a mask around seniors. You know what? I lost
00:09:55.360 my dad to COVID. My mom is 88. You think I don't take precautions? It's crazy that everything that's
00:10:02.620 going on now defies all logic. Well, and, and it's such a one-sided way of looking at it. Like,
00:10:08.320 oh, don't you care about kids? It's like, well, don't you care about kids? Don't you want kids
00:10:11.840 to be able to have a free childhood where they don't have to feel so restricted and, and kids
00:10:16.520 growing up with paranoia and fear and adults telling them that, that everything could be at risk. I mean,
00:10:22.180 what I, I, you know, I look at, uh, the, the sort of like, you, we, we talk about Gen Z and how
00:10:28.180 they're very protected and how they want college speech codes and they need safe spaces and all
00:10:32.260 this kind of stuff. Um, I, I can't imagine what the generation is growing up now, how, how, how much,
00:10:37.760 you know, more like that they're going to be just given that they're growing up in this environment
00:10:41.340 where, you know, we're told that we have to live in bubbles and that, you know, everything could
00:10:45.500 potentially kill them. It's like, what, what kind of impact is this going to have on, um, that next
00:10:51.020 generation? There was a survey that came out over the weekend, Sue Ann, uh, from the Canadian press,
00:10:55.160 they reported on it saying that there was a survey. It was, it was actually conducted by
00:10:58.440 the Canadian hub for applied and social research from the university of Saskatchewan. And it found
00:11:03.060 that Canadians are more divided than ever. They're completely divided over COVID-19 politics. Um,
00:11:09.480 40% of Canadians said that they have lost, uh, contact with a close relative or a friend
00:11:15.240 over disagreement over pandemic politics. Um, that the majority of Canadians, 72% said that the COVID-19
00:11:21.960 pandemic and the 2021 federal election were the two most divisive issues, um, that, that they've
00:11:28.760 lived through. And, you know, I think, I think a lot of people are seeing this, that people are wound
00:11:33.840 up really tight, um, that people are angry, that there's a lot of disagreement. You see it play out
00:11:39.180 on social media. You talk about how you were attacked. I think a lot of people feel that way.
00:11:43.480 People who are outspoken about either being pro-vax or anti-vax, this, this issue is just
00:11:49.000 dividing Canadian is really bad for our country. And yet we keep revisiting it over and over again.
00:11:54.040 It's like, can't, maybe we should just let it go. You know, six wave, who cares? Why are we even
00:11:59.140 focusing on it? If, if it's an endemic and so many people have, have either gotten it and had
00:12:04.080 herd immunity or, or developed herd immunity among the population, or they're fully vaccinated.
00:12:09.080 Like what, why, why do we even continue to focus on it knowing that it's so divisive? Um, I'm,
00:12:13.980 I'm wondering what your experiences have been and why you think that we, uh, can't let this,
00:12:19.000 issue go, even though we know it's so bad for us, you know, it's fear and look, I'm triple
00:12:26.280 vaccinated. I'm boosted. And the way I feel is that if you asked me to get a vaccine to protect myself
00:12:33.520 and protect others, then I did it. I, I, I agreed to it. Uh, I've had some lingering side effects,
00:12:40.740 which are, are not fun, but, um, I did what I was asked to do and, you know, now I want to roam
00:12:49.360 freely. I want to live freely, you know? Uh, and I think that, uh, people keep, uh, moving the bar,
00:12:58.020 particularly politicians. And now they're talking about a fourth booster. And I've talked to other
00:13:02.800 people and they said, there's no way they're going to get another booster. I mean, how long
00:13:06.820 are we going to have this push on, be pushed on us? And Candace, I think that was a large part of
00:13:12.560 what the freedom convoy was all about, that people have been pushed. They've been isolated. They've
00:13:18.080 been locked down. They've been told how to live their lives for the last two years. And enough is
00:13:23.360 enough enough. Look, I think that in our population, those who haven't had COVID, we probably all will
00:13:30.360 have a mild form of COVID at one point. Two weeks ago, I had terrible, terrible cold. I thought it
00:13:35.780 was COVID. I got tested. No, it was just a cold. It was a really bad cold. Um, which I think I picked
00:13:41.620 up at the Trump rally with 12,000 unmasked people, but I was there and roaming free and enjoying my day.
00:13:48.560 Um, but you know, immediately everybody thinks it's COVID. We had a friend down here from, uh, Toronto
00:13:56.200 who didn't want to have dinner with even my wife, because she was exposed to me with my cold. I did not
00:14:02.400 have COVID. So it's just, it's been so ingrained in people that they've lost all sense of all common
00:14:09.520 sense, all sense of logic. It's funny because during the trucker convoy, I was waiting for the
00:14:14.680 headlines to say, Oh, this is going to be a super spreader event because that's what the media has
00:14:18.040 been obsessed with. Anytime there's a conservative minded protest, they focus on super spreaders.
00:14:23.380 Anytime it's a social justice, left-wing black lives matter protests, then it's, it's just
00:14:27.320 righteous, but the media always focused on it. So I was waiting for those stories and they never came.
00:14:31.240 And there was never any COVID wave that, that resulted from all of those truckers gathering.
00:14:36.100 I think because everyone kind of knew, okay, first of all, Omicron made everyone a little bit more
00:14:40.800 immune to COVID. And second, they were all outside and the chances of you getting COVID, uh, outside
00:14:45.280 are very, very low. But Sue, I wanted to ask you, cause I know you're, you're down in Florida
00:14:48.920 and you, you mentioned you went to the Donald Trump rally there. Uh, tell me a little bit about the
00:14:54.020 rally and tell me just more broadly about the difference between, cause you, you spent most of the
00:14:58.320 the pandemic, I believe in Toronto and Ontario around sort of the COVID hypochondriacs as you
00:15:03.520 call them. Um, and, and, and then, and then the second part in, in Florida where it's super relaxed
00:15:07.840 and they've kind of moved on and no one even talks about COVID, no one wears masks anymore. So maybe
00:15:12.520 you can comment on that, on the differences. Well, the only paranoid people down in Florida are
00:15:17.220 New Yorkers, frankly, because they've been so indoctrinated, but you know, it's interesting when I
00:15:22.280 first came down here, I saw a lot of people wearing masks in the grocery stores and Costco.
00:15:27.680 And in the last two weeks, it's been totally relaxed. You don't see hardly anybody wearing
00:15:32.840 masks. Uh, we went to a couple of theater performances in November and December into
00:15:38.640 January. There were strict rules about wearing masks. We had to show our vaccine cards, none of
00:15:43.820 that anymore. We just went to a play the other day, no masks, no, I mean, there were people wearing
00:15:49.300 masks in the audience, but no, no requirement. Um, nobody talks about it. Uh, I don't see the same
00:15:57.280 kind of signs anywhere. Walk into a grocery store, walk into a regular, you know, store,
00:16:03.540 one of my favorite dress stores, no issues. It's free. It's totally free. And the only time I had to
00:16:10.860 wear a mask was when I was at the Palm beach airport yesterday. That was a federal requirement.
00:16:16.300 Uh, at the Trump rally, there were 12,000 people, 12,000. I could not believe in Fort Lauderdale
00:16:22.660 packing this arena. Almost every stand was full. They waited the entire day to hear Donald Trump
00:16:29.900 after a succession of speakers. We were there from 1130 on and he didn't speak till about six
00:16:36.080 o'clock. So it was, who else was there? What other speakers did you hear? And his Owen spoke
00:16:41.440 and, um, Donald Trump Jr. Spoke and Dan Bongino spoke, uh, very, very interesting group of speakers.
00:16:50.920 Um, and, uh, like I said, people waited and waited to hear him and he didn't disappoint. Uh, and might I
00:16:59.420 add, no one was wearing masks at all, all 12,000 people that I estimated were there. Nobody was wearing
00:17:06.280 masks. And so what was the, what was the purpose of the rally? Is he, is he running for president or
00:17:10.880 what, what, what was the, what was the kind of, you know, rationale behind having this big rally
00:17:15.700 here in Florida? He's been doing a series of them. He's done one in South Carolina. He did one in
00:17:21.860 Michigan the other night. He's doing one in, I believe Georgia. I've been, I'm, I'm on his list
00:17:26.900 now. So I, you know, I get requests to buy doormats and hats and all kinds of stuff and notices
00:17:33.180 about his rallies. Um, but he's, he's doing a series and I think he's testing the waters to
00:17:38.540 run. He's raising money. Um, frankly, I think a better choice would be if you asked me, Ron
00:17:46.620 DeSantis, uh, there's some talk about him running and the next election. I think he's a kinder,
00:17:53.800 gentler Trump, but he's tough and he puts his foot down and I really respect the guy. This is the
00:18:00.580 governor of Florida, of course. Yeah. I'm surprised to hear you say that. Cause I, I do know that some
00:18:05.620 people in Florida don't want to see him go. They, they say, you know, stop, stop talking about Ron
00:18:09.680 DeSantis for, for president, because he's doing such a good job here in Florida that we don't
00:18:13.240 want to lose him. Cause if without him, you know, we'll have some other, uh, either a Republican
00:18:18.480 that doesn't have the spine that DeSantis has, or some awful Democrat that's going to bring in all
00:18:22.520 the same kind of roles that we've had in Ontario and, and, and other sort of blue states,
00:18:26.860 um, in the U S well, uh, that's, that's really interesting. And I know you reported from that
00:18:31.820 rally. So I encourage viewers to go, go check that out. Cause it's really definitely interesting.
00:18:36.480 And, uh, Sue, and you're keeping your finger on the pulse. I did have a final question for you.
00:18:40.700 You mentioned that you were down at the airport yesterday. I know they're federally regulated,
00:18:43.420 and I know that, that there's some push from airlines to get the Biden administration to drop the
00:18:47.880 mask mandate, but, uh, more interesting than the mask mandate was who you bumped into at the, uh,
00:18:53.700 local airport there in Palm beach, Florida. So why don't you tell us about that?
00:18:57.800 Well, uh, I didn't exactly bump into him. I saw him. He was trying to hide from me was mayor John
00:19:03.000 Tory. Um, he has a home down here and, uh, you know, I'm just going to say that, uh, he has every
00:19:09.640 right to travel, but I'm going to give the proviso that that very morning, yesterday morning,
00:19:15.620 he posted something on Twitter, uh, that made it seem like he was in his office in Toronto. It was
00:19:21.780 about the Raptors. So it's the whole thing again, like sneaking down to Florida, pretending you're
00:19:27.260 not there, you know, just be open about it, be honest. Um, and I'm sure this isn't the first time
00:19:34.560 he's come down and it was just, you know, it was so hypocritical, you know, you know about politicians
00:19:41.380 and they pretend they're not traveling, but they are. And, uh, I don't think he was very happy to see
00:19:48.320 that I saw him. And the reason I was at the gate is that air candidate didn't have anybody to wheel
00:19:53.260 my mom to the gate. So I got a special pass. So he probably rude the day that I actually got the
00:19:59.940 special pass to come to the gate. Well, maybe, maybe he called the security on you. And maybe
00:20:04.800 that was the reason they thought you were a security threat because he was probably like,
00:20:08.400 get this reporter out of here before she blows my cover. Well, no, it is interesting because I know
00:20:15.220 there's no, there's no travel ban right now and there's no lockdowns happening right now,
00:20:20.520 but, but the same type of people who encourage you to be, you know, encourage the public and,
00:20:25.800 and lecture us and tell us to be hyper careful and, and to avoid contact and, and to not kind
00:20:32.020 of go out there and live our lives. You know, they turn around in their personal life. They
00:20:35.620 go down to their mansion in Florida and have a time with their family and do frankly, whatever
00:20:40.360 they want. And there's sort of this, this opinion, cause I saw your tweet and I saw a lot
00:20:44.780 of the reaction that people were angry that he was doing that, which, you know, politicians
00:20:49.000 have every right to travel and they have every right to go on vacation just like the rest
00:20:53.340 of us. But, but the, the issue is, is sort of the double standard and the idea that they're
00:20:57.220 allowed to lecture us and tell us what to do. And then in their personal life, they just
00:21:00.340 kind of go in and do whatever you want. What did you think about the reaction to your,
00:21:04.220 to your story there? I thought it was, you know, very predictable and very, you know,
00:21:09.160 in sync with, I mean, politicians are not very connected with the average person these
00:21:14.080 days. And John Tory is no exception or how the average person feels, but here's a man
00:21:19.000 who's pushing his vaccine ride clinics, things on the TTC vaccine read. He's got clinics in
00:21:25.700 libraries. I'm beginning to wonder if he's going to have them on the golf courses, but
00:21:29.120 the golf courses just opened in Toronto. I mean, he's ramming vaccinations down people's
00:21:34.660 throats, five to 11 year olds, which I think is totally wrong. He's talking about taking
00:21:40.020 precautions. I see him at photo ops with masks on inside, you know, it's just bizarre. So
00:21:46.400 it's like left brain, right brain, you know, Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde, whatever you want to call
00:21:51.600 it. But, you know, you, you preach this and, and he was one of the most Econian lockdown
00:21:57.400 mayors in all of Canada. Poor Toronto has suffered tremendously. And, you know, then you
00:22:05.040 see him standing at the airport, you know, with his little mask on, cause it's Palm Beach
00:22:10.160 airport. What did he think people were, how they were going to react? I was actually shocked
00:22:15.200 to see him in line. How did he think people were going to react?
00:22:19.960 Well, he probably just assumed that no one would, no one would see him, but it's interesting
00:22:24.360 to see the sort of populist reaction to a lot of these politicians. Like I, I mean, I think
00:22:29.520 that the, the, the, the worst, the politician who was the first to get ousted was Aaron O'Toole
00:22:34.720 for the conservatives. And I just remember when the truckers came to Ottawa and he, he
00:22:39.560 originally didn't want to meet with them and he was sort of, didn't want to be associated
00:22:43.760 with the populism. Um, he came out with his own, uh, trucker, uh, policy, what he would
00:22:49.240 do alternatively to, uh, what Trudeau is doing with the, with the border ban. And his, his
00:22:54.320 proposition was to have vaccine clinics at truck stops. And that was supposedly going
00:22:59.680 to, going to fix this whole issue, which totally misunderstands the whole purpose of why the
00:23:04.420 truck, the truckers weren't protesting because they didn't have access to vaccines, protest
00:23:08.660 because they didn't want to have the mandate. Right. And the idea that some politician would
00:23:12.400 say, Oh, it's okay. We'll just bring them. We'll bring the vaccines to you. It just totally
00:23:16.080 shows how little some of these politicians really grasp the issues of the people in front
00:23:20.980 of them. They don't. And listen, I, I, I would dearly love to find out how many people have
00:23:26.260 actually shown up to those clinics. They are huge drain on resources. And I would bet you
00:23:31.540 that the, the probably a handful of people have come and gotten vaxxed. People are just,
00:23:36.100 it's over. People have had enough. And like Toronto is no exception, whatever place you're
00:23:42.120 talking about, they've had enough, enough with the clinics, enough with the masking indoors
00:23:47.360 to virtue signal, you know, it's crazy. I think that's a perfect way to end it. Sue Ann is perfect
00:23:54.800 note to end it. Just let it, let it end, let it be over. We're done with it. Let us move on with
00:23:58.940 our lives. Well, thank you so much for joining us, Sue Ann. Always great to have you on the show.
00:24:02.720 That's Sue Ann Levy with True North. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.