The Candice Malcolm Show - November 28, 2023


Ontario MPP： “Put the IRGC – the ruling party of Iran – on the Canadian terrorist list”

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Islamic regime sympathizers in Canada Islamophascism and UN Human Rights Council compromise
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Candice Malcolm
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Justin Trudeau Goldie Gamari Carleton Nigar Mojtahedi Stephen Harper Vilayatif Fati Majid Jihadi Gamma Ray PS752 Farsi
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A few weeks ago, I wrote a column about how Canada needs to get serious and start a conversation about our values and what it means to be Canadian. Well, shortly after I wrote that column, someone sent me a clip of a speech that was given in Queen s Park by a female elected official. It was a speech about what Canada means to her, and how some of the worst instances of tribalism and bigotry that she left behind in the Middle East have followed her to Canada.

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00:00:00.000 Canadians should be unapologetic about who we are and what we stand for.
00:00:03.960 Canadian values are distinct and they are worth defending.
00:00:06.840 Today, I speak to an elected official and a great Canadian who lives by these values.
00:00:11.300 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:24.340 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning into the podcast.
00:00:26.940 Don't forget to like this video and subscribe to True North.
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00:00:30.960 Let us know what you think is great about Canada.
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00:00:38.120 So Canada is and always has been a great country.
00:00:40.640 In a chaotic and destabilized world, Canada stands for peace, for freedom, for hope and opportunity,
00:00:45.940 based on a tradition of rights and responsibilities that date back over eight centuries.
00:00:50.740 We've never been a country defined by creed, ethnicity, or even a shared religion.
00:00:54.480 Instead, we are united by our ideals, our values.
00:00:58.220 Namely, our commitment to freedom, to peace, order, and good government, to pluralism, and to Canadian patriotism.
00:01:03.360 A few weeks ago, I wrote a column about how Canada needs to get serious and start a conversation
00:01:07.440 about our values and how to defend them and what it means to be Canadian.
00:01:11.160 This is especially true against a backdrop of a post-modernist education system
00:01:15.380 that promotes gloom and nihilism and, frankly, hatred of Canada,
00:01:18.760 and with practically an open border immigration policy that welcomes millions of newcomers
00:01:23.560 without any expectation that they will integrate, that they will embrace Canadian values,
00:01:27.880 that they will adopt a Canadian identity,
00:01:30.100 and without requiring them to leave their tribalistic feuds and hatreds
00:01:33.860 from the war-torn countries that they fled, the failed countries that they fled, leave them behind.
00:01:38.560 Well, shortly after I wrote that column, someone sent me a speech that was given
00:01:41.680 in Queen's Park, Ontario's provincial legislature.
00:01:44.380 It was a female elected official giving a remarkable speech about what Canada means to her
00:01:49.220 and how, sadly, some of the worst instances of tribalism and bigotry
00:01:53.800 that she left behind in the Middle East have followed her to Canada.
00:01:57.320 I'm going to play part of that clip for you right now because I think it's so fantastic
00:02:00.420 and something that all Canadians should see.
00:02:02.700 So this is Ottawa-area MPP Goldie Gamma Ray on October 23, 2023.
00:02:08.860 You know, Madam Speaker, when my parents immigrated to Canada in 1986, I was a year old.
00:02:13.760 And the reason that they immigrated to Canada from Iran is because in 1979 there was an Islamic revolution
00:02:21.900 and our once free and democratic country was taken over by radical Islamists.
00:02:28.200 So my parents escaped in 1986 because they wanted to live in a free and democratic society.
00:02:34.860 And I was a year old at the time.
00:02:36.100 And we were blessed to be able to come to Canada to escape that hatred,
00:02:42.120 to escape that radical, fundamentalist, Islamofascist ideology.
00:02:50.740 And so when we came to Canada, my parents raised myself and my younger sister
00:02:56.380 always telling us how blessed we are to be Canadian.
00:03:00.040 And we should always put Canada first.
00:03:04.300 Never forget your heritage.
00:03:06.260 Never forget your culture.
00:03:07.440 Never forget your background.
00:03:08.980 But always remember that you are first and foremost a proud Canadian.
00:03:13.960 And what that means, Madam Speaker, is you come here to embrace culture and diversity
00:03:22.040 and accept people for who they are.
00:03:25.520 And you leave the problems of your home country behind.
00:03:30.400 Always remember that first and foremost you are a proud Canadian.
00:03:34.440 What a beautiful sentiment for immigrant parents to teach their young children.
00:03:38.160 Really, truly a remarkable speech.
00:03:39.780 Goldie Gamere is a progressive, conservative Ontario member of the provincial parliament 0.72
00:03:44.040 representing the riding of Carleton.
00:03:46.440 Prior to being elected in 2018, she was an international trade lawyer and commercial litigator.
00:03:51.340 She was born in Iran, as she mentioned in that clip.
00:03:53.760 And her family escaped the Islamic regime and came to Canada.
00:03:57.220 She has been dedicated to fighting against the radical Islamists who run the Iranian regime.
00:04:02.020 And she's been particularly vocal in recent weeks as we've seen some pro-Hamas activists
00:04:06.460 taking to the streets in protests across the country.
00:04:08.820 So, Goldie Gamere, welcome to the podcast.
00:04:11.920 Thank you for having me.
00:04:13.100 And you corrected me on the pronunciation of your last name.
00:04:15.540 I thought it was Gamare, but it's Gamare.
00:04:17.360 So, my apologies for that.
00:04:19.200 That's okay.
00:04:19.840 No worries.
00:04:20.420 Actually, it's funny.
00:04:22.320 My sister and I sometimes use the code word Gamere as like a little password.
00:04:27.900 So, we use that like one of our Wi-Fi passwords.
00:04:31.160 So, yeah.
00:04:31.660 Oh, that's funny.
00:04:32.920 Okay.
00:04:33.160 Well, I wanted to start by asking about that remarkable speech that you gave on October 23rd.
00:04:37.880 So, why don't you just tell us what compelled you to deliver those marks?
00:04:40.900 And specifically, why did you talk about how your parents always taught you to put Canada first?
00:04:46.240 Do you think that's a common sentiment amongst newcomers to Canada that they put Canada first?
00:04:50.740 So, I mean, when I stood up, I wasn't really sure what I was going to say.
00:04:56.000 I didn't have anything planned out.
00:04:59.140 I just knew that I wanted to speak because it was an issue that's of such importance to me.
00:05:05.480 And, you know, ever since my speech, I've received emails from hundreds of people, not just in my riding of Carleton, but across Ontario and across Canada.
00:05:19.620 Many of them newcomers or, you know, immigrants from previous years who said that they share the exact same sentiment as me.
00:05:29.800 Because I think, you know, the majority of people, including my parents, immigrate to Canada because they want a better life, because they recognize and they understand the possibilities that a country like Canada provides.
00:05:45.700 It's the potential futures that Canada provides, the opportunities that Canada provides.
00:05:52.340 And that happens because of the way Canadian society is structured.
00:05:59.240 And so, you know, that's why people like my parents immigrate here is to become part of that community, to embrace those Canadian values and to raise their children Canadian.
00:06:15.700 Well, that's wonderful.
00:06:17.420 And I'm very pleased to hear that you got that reaction and that so many Canadians felt the same way.
00:06:22.960 In your speech, you also were very critical of the pro-Palestine rallies that we've been seeing.
00:06:28.920 You mentioned that there are have been genocidal chants.
00:06:32.620 What do you think we should make of these?
00:06:34.240 What do you think Canada should do when protests are not advocating for peace, for instead when protests sort of turn nasty and start advocating for terrorism and for groups like Hamas who promote genocide?
00:06:47.020 Well, you know, the Canadian government has made it very clear that hate rallies have no place in Ontario.
00:06:54.740 I know that the prime minister has said something similar, but then he's kind of gone back and forth on it and hasn't been very clear on where he stands, which is a little bit unfortunate.
00:07:06.240 Because I think, you know, any sort of chants or behaviors or marches or rallies that promote hate or terrorism have no place in Canada and don't belong in Canada.
00:07:18.140 It's unfortunate. I know that the previous federal government under Prime Minister Stephen Harper introduced a piece of legislation that would have made the glorification of acts of terror illegal in Canada, but Justin Trudeau repealed that or didn't allow it to go through.
00:07:37.360 So unfortunately, right now, there's this loophole that allows certain groups to make certain genocidal chants or to shout things like cheva or gas the Jews or, you know, we heard about that imam in Montreal who was preaching off of a balcony to 20,000 people at a pro-Palestine rally.
00:08:03.880 And in that sermon, he's basically saying, kill the Zionists. I mean, how is that even Canada?
00:08:10.500 Like that's something that's the kind of behavior you would see in like a radical Islamo-fascist country, like the terrorist Islamic regime in Iran.
00:08:18.560 Like you don't see that in Canada. That's the kind of behavior that my parents immigrated from to get immigrated to Canada to to get away from.
00:08:27.800 Right. Like we know what that behavior is. We see that in Iran all the time, unfortunately, because the behavior that we're seeing right now in Canada, certain behaviors, certain very anti-Semitic ideologies or chants.
00:08:43.180 These all stem from ideology that's been perpetrated and exported by the terrorist Islamic regime in Iran, a regime that denies the Holocaust, a regime that is incredibly anti-Semitic, a regime that constantly says that they're going to eradicate the Zionist regime.
00:09:01.660 And we're seeing those exact same talking points here in Canada in 2023.
00:09:08.660 It's interesting. You've been exposing and ringing the alarm bell about Islamists and specifically regime members, people from the Islamic regime in Iran living in Canada, able to go about their business.
00:09:20.960 You know, it's interesting because, you know, it's interesting because, you know, it's interesting because back under, again, the previous federal Harper government, Canada expelled the Iranian diplomats that ended diplomatic ties.
00:09:31.880 Trudeau has sort of been warmer and softer, but it's still very surprising to me that there would be senior members, you know, of the regime living in Canada, able to just sort of carry on their business without being bothered.
00:09:44.940 The other day we saw a rally where someone was waving an Islamic Republic flag.
00:09:50.580 You know, I've seen many people wave Persian flags, the same colors, but instead of the Islamic Republic logo, a lion.
00:10:00.360 But I hadn't seen that sort of the Ayatollahs flag in Canada before.
00:10:05.480 It was really sort of chilling.
00:10:06.640 So why don't you tell us a little bit more about the research that you've been doing and what Canada ought to do about regime members living in our country?
00:10:12.680 So there was a global news special that came out a couple of weeks ago from an Iranian reporter named Nigar Mojtahedi.
00:10:24.040 And she had done a very in-depth review and research on Islamic regime sympathizers and people from Iran who sympathize with the Islamic regime who are in Canada.
00:10:33.220 And there's currently at least 700 known Islamic regime sympathizers who are in Canada and Trudeau has done nothing about that.
00:10:44.380 And like you said, a lot of them come here and live these free lives in Canada and enjoy the benefits of being in a Canadian society after everything they've done in Iran. 0.99
00:10:58.200 And I think part of the reason, I mean, I can't prove this, but my educated guess would be part of the reason why they're able to come here is money, whether they're sort of economic immigrants or, you know, I would just say in that case, the easiest answer is to follow the money. 0.75
00:11:15.560 What we can do, what Justin Trudeau could do if he actually wanted to, is to put the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which is basically the ruling party, to put everyone involved in the IRGC on the Canadian terror list.
00:11:32.260 What that would do is that immediately ban anyone from coming to Canada, whether as a, you know, on a visitor basis or permanent residence, permanent basis.
00:11:43.900 It would also ban all commercial activities and any assets that were in Canada would be frozen.
00:11:50.840 So it would, you know, provide an economic sanction within Canada right away.
00:11:56.360 And it would definitely give more ability and more weight for authorities to go after those who are in Canada, who are affiliated with the Islamic regime in Iran.
00:12:11.620 But Justin Trudeau has not done that.
00:12:13.500 We don't know why.
00:12:14.720 This is something that the Iranian-Canadian community has been calling for for several years.
00:12:20.140 Most notably in the past three, almost four years now, since the Islamic regime shot down Ukraine flight PS752 back in January of 2020. 0.59
00:12:32.920 Initially, when they did that, they said the Islamic regime blamed it on Canada and the United States, saying that this was some sort of Zionist conspiracy theory.
00:12:44.880 And one thing you'll notice with the Islamic regime is everything to them is a Zionist conspiracy theory. 0.94
00:12:49.460 So for the first three days, the Islamic regime claimed that this was Canada and the United States and a Zionist conspiracy cover-up.
00:12:57.600 But after three days, when more and more social media footage was emerging, showing what actually happened,
00:13:03.100 the Islamic regime finally had to acknowledge that they themselves had shot down Ukraine flight PS752,
00:13:12.580 killing 55 Canadians on board, as well as 30 permanent residents who were among the 176 passengers and crew who were all basically murdered when the plane was shot down.
00:13:27.580 So ever since then, Iranians have been trying to get the IRGC on the terrorist list and Justin Trudeau refuses.
00:13:34.760 We still don't know why he refuses to put the IRGC on the terrorist list.
00:13:39.280 What I do know is that one of his MPs, an Iranian MP actually from Richmond Hill, Majid Johadi, back in 2016,
00:13:49.020 initiated a petition to try and re-establish diplomatic relations with the terrorists and illegitimate Islamic regime,
00:13:56.240 which made no sense to the Iranian-Canadian community.
00:13:59.680 And that actually left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths, a lot of Iranian-Canadian's mouths. 0.72
00:14:07.200 And yeah, there's a lot of people who took offense and took issue with that MP trying to re-establish diplomatic negotiations
00:14:19.700 and reopen the Iranian embassy in Canada.
00:14:24.240 So that might also provide a hint as to why Trudeau won't put the IRGC on the terrorist list.
00:14:30.100 I believe that's the same MP who, during a large round of protests,
00:14:35.860 Iranians in Canada and around the world were protesting the regime's crackdown on civilians, on children, all kinds of things.
00:14:42.820 I believe that's the same MP who told Canadians to respect the democratically elected government of Iran.
00:14:49.080 Iran. He later had to walk that back because obviously there's no kind of democracy or elections in Iran.
00:14:56.000 Goldie, I wanted to ask you just a final question.
00:14:58.160 We're seeing a lot of protests, a lot of rallies in Canada.
00:15:02.100 You know, some of these protests border on being sort of openly pro-Hamas,
00:15:06.500 openly promoting very barbaric practices and ideologies.
00:15:11.260 And I think it's hard for many Canadians to sort of walk the line of what is considered Islamophobic
00:15:17.860 and what is considered legitimate criticism of extremism or even promotion of terrorism.
00:15:25.040 I know you recently tweeted about how you're a sort of strong advocate of women's rights in the Middle East,
00:15:30.640 but that you failed to make a distinction between extremist practices and the broader Muslim faith.
00:15:36.620 So I'm wondering if, from your perspective, where is that distinction?
00:15:40.360 Because the term Islamophobia is a bit murky.
00:15:43.000 It's not always clear what is meant by it.
00:15:45.320 And some people interpret it as being a criticism of Islam, which is meant to be banned.
00:15:50.740 So what's your perspective on that?
00:15:53.300 So my tweets have always been within the context of the terrorist and illegitimate Islamic regime in Iran. 0.61
00:15:58.520 And, you know, I always refer to it as Islamofascism as opposed to Islam or Muslims. 1.00
00:16:04.000 I can see how sometimes some of the things I say, when I take it out of context,
00:16:09.700 could be referred to or could be interpreted as referring to everyone.
00:16:15.240 The challenge is, at this point, I'm not quite really sure what is considered Islamophobic and what isn't.
00:16:20.720 I was reading a recent article where I know the CRA is attempting to audit a couple of, I guess,
00:16:26.820 Muslim nonprofits or Muslim charities.
00:16:29.520 And one of the advocacy groups was arguing that the CRA attempting to audit these Muslim groups is Islamophobic.
00:16:38.140 And that's an argument they made to a judge in Canada.
00:16:43.140 Now, I don't think the judge actually, I don't think the judge bought that argument.
00:16:46.820 Didn't buy the claim that CRA attempting to audit a Muslim group is Islamophobic.
00:16:52.900 But I think it just goes, it just shows the challenge of trying to criticize certain radical ideologies and then, you know, being painted with this brush.
00:17:06.040 I think it's just very important that any criticism of any religion, it should always be made very clear that, you know, this isn't a, you know, you're not, you're not painting the entire community.
00:17:21.300 You're not painting the entire practice.
00:17:23.500 You're just talking about something very specific.
00:17:25.480 So, for example, you know, one of the criticisms I have made is that, to me, it makes no sense that the United Nations voted to have the terrorists and illegitimate Islamic regime in Iran, which is an Islamophascist dictatorship, have them be the head of the United Nations Human Rights Council. 0.74
00:17:43.420 Like, to me, it just doesn't make sense.
00:17:45.620 And I don't think to any rational person, it wouldn't make sense that a brutal dictatorship that murders and hangs children in the name of Allah, by the way, that's what they do.
00:17:59.560 That's why they're Islamophascists, because they use religion to legitimize their fascist behavior. 1.00
00:18:09.360 And there's actually a term for it in Farsi.
00:18:11.900 In Farsi, we refer to Islamophascism as Vilayatif Fati, and, like, that's a whole other episode that we could go into.
00:18:20.920 But essentially, what it does is it gives the supreme leader the divine authority to dictate anything that they want in the name of Allah.
00:18:33.180 So, you know, to me, it makes no sense that you have this Islamophascist dictatorship who hangs children, be the head of the United Nations Human Rights Council. 0.86
00:18:44.420 So, to me, my personal opinion is that we have these international humanitarian organizations or institutions that seem a little bit compromised, right?
00:18:54.500 Like, how could you not be compromised when you have people voting for the Islamic regime in Iran to be the chair of the Human Rights Council?
00:19:02.720 So, I think it's a matter of being very, very clear and succinct in the criticisms in order to make sure that people understand the context.
00:19:12.500 Absolutely. And I think you're completely right about the UN.
00:19:16.460 I recently saw someone on social media post a picture of an individual who was both a member of UNRWA, which is the United Nations branch that focuses on refugees in Palestine, who also happened to be a member of Hamas.
00:19:29.420 So, he was both. And I think that that kind of shows the compromise there.
00:19:33.040 Well, Goldie, I really appreciate your time. I appreciate all your effort. I know you have such a big following out there.
00:19:37.500 So many people look at you and admire the work you do and admire your voice and your strength.
00:19:41.540 So, thank you so much for taking the time and keep doing what you're doing.
00:19:45.880 Thank you so much for having me on anytime.
00:19:48.400 I'm sorry, I kind of, I think I ran it on a little bit too much, but happy to come back anytime.
00:19:54.080 Great. Wonderful. Thank you so much. That's Goldie Gamare, an MPP in Ontario.
00:19:58.340 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:20:03.040 Thank you.