The Candice Malcolm Show - Parliament returns as Carney warns of WORSE deficit

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the Candace Malcolm Show. It is Monday, September 15th, 2025. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, filling in for Candace this Monday. Thank you so much for making us a part of your day and your work week. We hope that you're energized and ready to fight for changes. Speaking of fighting for changes, they're back.

00:00:26.340 Ottawa's House of Commons is back in session. That means that more than 300 members of Parliament from all around Canada are now gathering in the nation's capital. They're back in the House of Commons. They're going to be doing question period. They're going to be arguing about things like debts, deficits, and how to spend your money.

00:00:46.380 And also, very importantly, they're going to be arguing about things like the looming ban on the sale of normal gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles.

00:00:55.940 They're going to be arguing in committee for lots of things that affect both your basic fundamental rights, like freedom of expression, and things that hit your wallet, like how much they're going to be spending.

00:01:07.760 Are they going to be adding to the debt? It actually sounds grim. It sounds like Prime Minister Mark Carney is trying to prepare people for an enormous deficit, meaning adding more money onto the federal debt than they were even planning to do.

00:01:25.100 And folks, for those of us who have had a troubling last few days because of what we saw happen in the United States, we're here for you.

00:01:35.720 You're not alone. I want everybody to know that you're not alone.

00:01:40.440 So I just want to encourage people to reach out to their friends and family.

00:01:44.940 You can talk about stuff like this, okay? It's important to talk about things like this and to mark when bad things happen.

00:01:52.840 What I find helps, personally, is really putting my shoulder to the wheel in order to push for positive changes.

00:01:59.820 So that includes, in my world, holding government to account, telling our elected members of parliament, parliament literally means like to speak, okay?

00:02:12.440 To speak for us, to truly stand up for us, to say things like we are tired of having nearly half of our incomes taken from us by various levels of government, and we want lower taxes.

00:02:26.640 We are tired of seeing government wasting money on absurd things, and we are done with it.

00:02:36.520 We want you to stop doing that.

00:02:38.420 We are tired, for example, of government-funded media.

00:02:43.740 Journalists should never be paid by the government.

00:02:47.480 And you know what? It's not just the CBC.

00:02:49.620 The vast majority of what we would call the mainstream media or legacy media are on the government dole now.

00:02:59.000 I'm sorry, that's not journalism.

00:03:01.620 That, by definition, is Pravda.

00:03:04.300 That's just propaganda.

00:03:06.140 So, we've also got a looming ban on the sale of normal gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles.

00:03:12.780 We can't afford this.

00:03:14.180 We don't have the money for this.

00:03:15.560 We don't have the electricity to charge these battery-powered cars.

00:03:18.640 And lastly, it's not supposed to be up to the government what kind of vehicle you purchase and you choose to drive.

00:03:25.520 You need to be able to purchase vehicles that suit what you need for your work and your family.

00:03:31.120 So, a lot of very important topics are coming to a head very quickly in Ottawa.

00:03:38.600 How are we going to handle this?

00:03:40.800 How are we going to achieve these wins?

00:03:43.120 Let's find out.

00:03:43.960 Joining me now is Franco Terrazzano.

00:03:46.720 He is the federal director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:03:50.080 He's living in Ottawa.

00:03:51.220 He's also one of my best friends in the whole wide world.

00:03:53.620 Franco, just give us a feeling of what it's like right now.

00:03:57.360 Like, what's the vibe out there?

00:03:58.880 I know there's lots of members of Parliament that are back on Parliament Hill.

00:04:02.100 They're getting geared up for question period.

00:04:03.960 What's it feeling like?

00:04:04.840 Yeah, the circus is back in town.

00:04:07.400 And look, there's always a lot of noise going on, right?

00:04:10.020 Like, what are the big fights going to be?

00:04:11.640 But I think there's going to be two big fights right around the corner during this session of Parliament.

00:04:17.100 Number one, the budget.

00:04:19.040 We don't know exactly when the budget is going to be.

00:04:21.300 We expect it to be sometime this fall, maybe October, maybe even November.

00:04:25.200 Who knows with this government?

00:04:26.480 But I think that's going to be a massive fight.

00:04:28.920 And it has to be.

00:04:29.780 Because our finances, the government's finances, are an absolute mess.

00:04:34.320 Okay?

00:04:34.700 Interest charges on the debt costing taxpayers more than $1 billion every single week.

00:04:41.020 Okay?

00:04:41.460 A brand new hospital.

00:04:43.000 Poof.

00:04:43.580 Gone.

00:04:44.040 Loss to the debt interest charges.

00:04:46.140 The second big fight that I think is heating up is that if Carney's serious in any way about fixing the budget,

00:04:53.120 you know, I won't hold my breath.

00:04:54.360 But if he's serious in any way, then the big fight also is going to be with the bureaucracy.

00:04:59.240 As you already see, government union bosses playing chicken little, running around, claiming the sky will fall

00:05:04.820 if the federal government finally fires some bureaucrats and save taxpayers some money.

00:05:09.820 Yeah, we've got a lot on that.

00:05:11.520 And we have a few clips to play for our viewers and for our listeners.

00:05:14.740 Now, this is a little while ago.

00:05:16.760 It isn't just this morning.

00:05:18.100 But this is Prime Minister Mark Carney.

00:05:20.240 And this is classic, trying to soften the blow of, oh, you know that bad budget we were expecting?

00:05:27.240 Yeah, it's going to be worse.

00:05:28.960 Let's listen to this.

00:05:30.700 Your House leader said this morning that the deficit will be, quote, substantial.

00:05:34.080 How big are we talking and what does that mean for future cuts?

00:05:36.480 Yeah, thank you for the question.

00:05:38.500 I responded a bit, but I'll recap it.

00:05:41.600 Substantial means it'll be bigger than it was last year.

00:05:44.180 So, Franco, can you explain just how we cannot afford a bigger deficit?

00:05:50.560 Yeah, well, let's start, number one, with the interest charges on the debt, right?

00:05:54.220 I already mentioned that the interest payments on the government credit card are costing taxpayers

00:05:59.200 more than $1 billion every single week.

00:06:02.660 More than $1 billion, okay?

00:06:04.700 So what's $1 billion?

00:06:05.900 Well, that's a brand new hospital, okay?

00:06:08.180 So essentially, we're losing out on a brand new hospital every single week because of

00:06:13.000 the massive government borrowing and debt interest charge problem.

00:06:16.580 But let me just put it into further context, okay?

00:06:18.660 Think about this in two ways.

00:06:20.320 Every dollar that you paid in federal sales tax last year went to pay interest charges

00:06:25.540 on the debt, right?

00:06:26.940 Think about that next time you're standing in the checkout line, that every dollar you're

00:06:30.620 paying in federal sales tax is not going to services, not improving the roads, right?

00:06:35.000 Not increasing class sizes.

00:06:36.400 That money is just going to the bond fund managers on Bay Street to service the debt.

00:06:41.060 The next little comparison, okay?

00:06:44.120 The federal government wasted more money paying interest on the debt than what it sent to the

00:06:48.800 provinces in health transfers last year, okay?

00:06:52.220 So think about this massive government debt problem that we have and think about what we

00:06:55.980 could be doing without this debt, okay?

00:06:58.740 We could essentially remove the federal sales tax or double federal health transfer.

00:07:04.080 So the government has really got itself into a huge mess because of out-of-control spending

00:07:08.800 over the last decade.

00:07:10.160 And now hearing Carney saying that the deficit could grow?

00:07:13.040 I mean, that's crazy.

00:07:14.080 We're not in a pandemic.

00:07:15.060 What is going on here, folks?

00:07:16.880 Yeah.

00:07:17.340 There's, you know, aliens aren't invading.

00:07:19.520 I'm just doing some quick math in my head.

00:07:21.740 A billion dollars a week?

00:07:23.000 Like, that's equivalent to the full-time salaries of about 5,000 cops plus 5,000 paramedics.

00:07:29.020 The annual salaries per week, that's what we're blowing on interest payments.

00:07:33.860 That is wild.

00:07:35.340 I wanted to get your reaction to this as well because you and I at the Canadian Taxpayers

00:07:39.740 Federation, one of the main things we're fighting federally is just the enormous size of the

00:07:45.340 bureaucracy.

00:07:45.780 Like, the one stat that always blows my mind that you told me, and I still can't wrap my

00:07:51.360 head around it, is you did the math or you figured out the math.

00:07:54.780 Somebody in your circle there did.

00:07:56.940 And if we had kept pace with the growth of population, we'd be saving, like, billions

00:08:02.440 with, like, an S, billions per year.

00:08:06.400 Seven billion a year.

00:08:08.040 Okay?

00:08:08.560 Okay.

00:08:09.000 We would have 60,000 fewer paper pushers in Ottawa and taxpayers would be saving seven

00:08:13.860 billion dollars every single year if the bureaucracy had just grown in line with population over

00:08:18.980 the last decade.

00:08:19.540 Folks, listen to how crazy, how big, how bloated the federal government has become.

00:08:24.520 The feds have added about 100,000 extra bureaucrats since 2016.

00:08:29.820 About 100,000 extra federal paper pushers.

00:08:32.480 The cost of the bureaucracy has gone up 77%, right?

00:08:38.020 Now, ask yourself, are you getting anywhere close to 77% better services from the federal

00:08:43.540 government and the federal bureaucracy?

00:08:45.720 Of course not.

00:08:46.780 And it's not just anecdotal here.

00:08:48.580 We actually commissioned a Leger poll that shows that half of Canadians say federal services

00:08:54.340 have gotten worse since 2016, despite the bureaucracy costs going up 77%.

00:09:00.680 So, you know, Simmer, clearly adding more government bureaucrats does not mean better outcomes for Canadians.

00:09:07.100 So far, unfortunately, it looks like Prime Minister Mark Carney is caving.

00:09:13.480 Looks like he's wussing out because he was asked about the size of the bureaucracy and he used

00:09:18.920 the word attrition instead of actual cuts.

00:09:22.180 Let's listen to this.

00:09:23.020 The cap relates to the level, yeah, the overall level and the adjustments that will happen naturally

00:09:32.260 through attrition.

00:09:34.160 There's a certain age cohort in the public sector.

00:09:39.120 You know, people leave employment, whether it's in the public or private sector, for a variety

00:09:43.880 of reasons.

00:09:44.900 Attractive opportunities outside, retirement on the other side.

00:09:49.480 So we'll be managing, we'll be managing through that.

00:09:53.020 You know, translation there, Franco, is let's do nothing.

00:09:57.320 That's literally what that means of like, oh, I don't actually need to wait in there and

00:10:00.880 make some cuts and tell people that you have a pink slip and we're reducing people.

00:10:04.120 No, no.

00:10:04.780 Can't we just let nature take its course, put our heads in the sand and do nothing?

00:10:08.480 Is this going to cut it?

00:10:10.260 Chris, if I gained 100 pounds in one year and I said, don't worry, you know what?

00:10:16.300 I'm just going to maintain my body weight.

00:10:18.840 You would be like, Franco, I love you, but you got to do some cardio, okay?

00:10:23.400 You got to start running 5K.

00:10:25.140 We're going to fat camp, my friend.

00:10:27.060 This is what we're doing.

00:10:28.420 You're going to have to do some sit-ups, some crunches, some push-ups.

00:10:31.040 And you know, rightfully so.

00:10:32.680 I mean, look, the government just added 100,000 extra bureaucrats in a decade.

00:10:36.380 And now they think attrition is going to cut it.

00:10:39.360 It won't cut it.

00:10:40.400 It's not even close, right?

00:10:41.720 We got to cut the number of federal bureaucrats immediately and significantly.

00:10:47.300 Now, let's bring in the political element here, okay?

00:10:49.580 Because Carney has tried to sell himself during the election and now as the practical guy,

00:10:55.260 right?

00:10:55.520 He's just a practical guy.

00:10:56.860 He's the numbers guy.

00:10:57.900 He's going to come in here, look at the data and do the right thing.

00:11:01.160 But what this shows me is that he is succumbing to the political pressure within the Liberal

00:11:06.940 Caucus, okay?

00:11:08.480 Some of his Liberal backbenchers, maybe some ministers, maybe Carney himself, who has a

00:11:13.500 riding in Ottawa, is succumbing to the pressure of the government union bosses.

00:11:18.240 Because look, if you look at the data where the federal government added 100,000 bureaucrats

00:11:22.500 in a decade, where the federal bureaucracy costs gone up 77% a decade, and yet Canadians are

00:11:27.900 still getting lackluster, poor, brutal services from the federal government, anyone who's being

00:11:33.000 objective or practical will look at these numbers and say, attrition is not serious.

00:11:38.000 We have to significantly shrink the size and cost of the federal bureaucracy.

00:11:42.720 Now, to stay with this political element for a second here, you know, I really do hope

00:11:47.340 that the conservatives, the official opposition under Pierre Polyev, who now is in a riding

00:11:51.760 in Alberta, will now feel like they are justified to go after and hold the Carney government accountable.

00:11:58.840 Because look, taxpayers can't keep paying for an unaffordable, bloated federal bureaucracy.

00:12:03.500 So I think Carney needs to backtrack off of this.

00:12:06.400 I think he has to roll up his sleeves and actually cut the number of bureaucrats.

00:12:09.740 And I think Mr. Polyev and his official opposition need to hold the government accountable and push

00:12:15.040 for cuts further and faster.

00:12:16.320 Yep, no longer will Pierre Polyev have in the back of his mind, oh, what about those

00:12:22.360 Manitic mansions that are full of bureaucrats that I'm going to be trying to door knock on 1.00

00:12:26.360 next time?

00:12:27.160 He isn't representing that riding anymore.

00:12:29.380 He's representing Battle River Crowfoot.

00:12:32.760 Not a lot of federal bureaucrats that are at the doors there. 1.00

00:12:37.440 So I'm expecting, I'm expecting a tone intensification.

00:12:43.520 I won't say change because they were calling for cuts, but I'm expecting that to be amplified

00:12:48.020 big time.

00:12:49.020 We have one more clip to play for our listeners.

00:12:51.500 Speaking of people who have ridings in the National Capital Region, this is the House leader.

00:12:56.760 And for people who, you know, aren't huge political nerds, okay?

00:13:00.780 So in Parliament Hill, there's more than 300 members of Parliament.

00:13:04.600 They're from different parties and they all sit together in different groups.

00:13:07.640 And within those parties, within those seats in Parliament Hill, there's different kind

00:13:12.580 of jobs that they get.

00:13:14.340 Sometimes they're cabinet ministers and sometimes they actually have a couple of different portfolios.

00:13:19.520 One of them is whip, okay?

00:13:20.960 So that's the job, like that's what the term means, to whip them into line, make sure they're

00:13:25.140 all voting the right way, make sure that they've got their butts in their seats at the right

00:13:28.060 time for voting.

00:13:28.980 The other one is called a house leader, okay?

00:13:32.100 This is the government house leader who has a riding right there in Ottawa.

00:13:38.240 The house leader is important because they're the ones that help direct the right answers

00:13:43.920 to the questions and the questions when you're expecting answers on different sides in the

00:13:48.800 House of Commons.

00:13:50.040 Listen to the house leader.

00:13:51.520 We just got this clip this morning.

00:13:53.500 What do you say to Canadians who were voting for you and Mr. Carney who said that he will take

00:13:58.740 care of the economy and now you are clearly preparing the groundwork for a substantial

00:14:04.140 deficit and austerity, things that Canadians may not have voted for last spring?

00:14:08.560 Oh, I think we were very realistic.

00:14:10.480 I mean, Canadians certainly had the full financial picture for the previous fiscal year.

00:14:17.540 What do you say in terms of what you're telling Canadians?

00:14:19.520 Austerity, that is not anything that we have heard in the campaign.

00:14:23.100 And these substantial deficits, not what we heard in the campaign.

00:14:25.920 We talked about spending less and investing more, and that's exactly what we continue

00:14:30.600 to talk about.

00:14:32.280 That was interesting, hearing pointed, directional, factual questions coming from the mainstream

00:14:37.440 media.

00:14:37.940 So that was nice to see.

00:14:39.440 Franco, is this what we heard during the election campaign?

00:14:42.860 From what I remember, I remember Mark Carney saying things like he was going to invest,

00:14:47.540 not spend.

00:14:48.420 And he was going to do some budget tricks with splitting it between operational, right?

00:14:52.500 Versus, like, what do they call it?

00:14:54.900 Capital investment.

00:14:56.400 So is this lining up with what we heard during the election?

00:15:00.400 Well, in a sense, kind of, only because I think Carney has been about as clear as mud

00:15:04.740 the entire time, right?

00:15:06.900 Like, that's the only reason it kind of does, because I think he's been clear as mud the 0.91

00:15:10.300 entire time.

00:15:10.940 Like, look, I want to kind of bridge the gap between the debt that we're talking about

00:15:14.400 and the bureaucracy, okay?

00:15:15.400 So number one, let's talk about the debt.

00:15:18.000 If you do look at Carney's election platform, he was planning to add $225 billion to the

00:15:24.280 debt over the next four years.

00:15:26.140 On top of what already happened, $225 billion extra debt.

00:15:29.560 For comparison, that's about $100 billion more of debt than what even Trudeau was planning

00:15:35.480 to do, right?

00:15:36.600 So, you know, Carney, the banker is supposed to be better with the numbers than the drama

00:15:40.160 teacher.

00:15:40.540 Yet, the banker is planning on adding almost $100 billion more of debt than what even Trudeau

00:15:46.500 was planning.

00:15:47.440 Now, to bring it back to the bureaucracy is, look, during the election, Carney said he was

00:15:51.440 going to balance the operating budget by, you know, 2028.

00:15:56.300 Number one, if the debt keeps going up, that's not a balanced budget, okay?

00:16:01.260 That is not a balanced budget.

00:16:02.780 If Canadians' kids, grandkids, and, you know, great-grandkids are saddled with one penny

00:16:08.060 more of debt, that's not a balanced budget, okay?

00:16:11.560 Another point here.

00:16:13.140 If Carney's first budget, if Carney spends one penny more than Trudeau, that will be a

00:16:19.780 failure, a complete failure.

00:16:21.780 Because after the last decade of runaway spending, finding savings in every area of the budget

00:16:27.680 should be finding water in the ocean.

00:16:30.460 It should be that simple, okay?

00:16:32.280 And the one last thing I'm going to say, it's not just the number of bureaucrats that are a

00:16:36.180 problem, so are the costs, like the perks, like the bonuses, okay?

00:16:40.200 Remember ArriveCam?

00:16:41.780 Well, that app ballooned from $80,000 to $60 million.

00:16:45.900 And guess what?

00:16:46.700 Those government executives working on that app took in $340,000 in bonuses.

00:16:52.260 And the problem is, that is the rule, not the exception, where the federal government has

00:16:57.300 rubber-stamped $1.5 billion in taxpayer-funded bonuses to bureaucrats since 2015.

00:17:03.980 While they're failing, I have to stress this, while they're failing, they are getting taxpayer-funded

00:17:10.600 bonuses.

00:17:11.580 I want you to, well, we've got a couple minutes left here, Franco.

00:17:14.660 For the six people out there who still think that the government isn't wasting money, and

00:17:20.840 that if they had to, you know, if they actually cut bureaucrat positions and cut spending and

00:17:26.380 balance the budget, that we would actually be cutting core services, you know, food for

00:17:31.020 orphans and, you know, bus passes for war widows, okay?

00:17:34.540 Can you get into some of the insane amounts of waste that we have seen? 0.96

00:17:38.700 Like, some of the dumb stuff that comes to mind, like just right off the top of my head,

00:17:43.360 is we spend $100,000 on a documentary about a shopping cart. 0.67

00:17:49.440 Like, we spend taxpayers' money so bureaucrats can hold their own departmental podcasts,

00:17:55.440 wondering if outer space is sexist.

00:17:58.700 Like, we're not kidding here, folks.

00:18:00.620 Can you just describe some of the crazy amounts of waste?

00:18:04.200 I know we usually try to focus on the small first and get up to the big, because it's easier

00:18:09.020 for people to understand.

00:18:10.860 Yeah, okay.

00:18:11.420 How about this one, right?

00:18:12.400 So, look, you talked about a research project, $100,000 to study the birth, life, and death

00:18:18.920 of a grocery cart.

00:18:19.940 I mean, maybe just phone up Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys, give them a stick of pepperoni,

00:18:24.680 and there you go, problem solved.

00:18:26.480 How about this?

00:18:27.460 $20,000 to study gender politics of Peruvian rock music.

00:18:34.500 Then there's your favorite waste of money, right?

00:18:36.400 We talk about this all the time, the $8,800 for a sex toy show in Germany.

00:18:40.480 Chris, I'm not going to make you say it. 0.95

00:18:41.920 I know you hate it when I ask, but $8,800 for a sex toy show in Germany.

00:18:45.720 The show was called Whose Is This?

00:18:49.680 Paid for by Canadian taxpayers.

00:18:51.880 How about this?

00:18:52.700 $12,000 so seniors in other countries could talk about their sex lives in front of live

00:18:57.900 audiences.

00:18:59.300 And Chris, this wasn't even Canadian seniors, right?

00:19:02.040 The economy apparently has gotten so bad over the last decade that the federal government

00:19:06.320 is now outsourcing old people sex stories.

00:19:10.200 Let me give you another example of a waste of money, and, you know, I don't care.

00:19:13.660 I'm just going to call out all political parties right now, is the raises that MPs give themselves

00:19:18.920 every single year, okay?

00:19:20.940 So since 2020, the beginning of 2020, all MPs have taken six pay raises, while their constituents

00:19:27.880 have struggled through pandemic government lockdowns, okay?

00:19:32.660 Through an inflation crisis.

00:19:34.160 Now this trade war with the United States, MPs have continued to stuff more pay in their

00:19:39.400 own pockets, paid for by taxpayers.

00:19:41.200 A couple other examples, the government spent $8 million building a barn at Rideau Hall,

00:19:47.980 okay?

00:19:48.940 Crazy.

00:19:49.960 Or how about this one?

00:19:50.800 If you look at all the corporate welfare the federal government hands out, federal corporate

00:19:55.040 welfare is costing taxpayers about $11 billion a year.

00:19:59.360 So that means federal subsidies to corporations is costing, you know, the average Canadian family

00:20:04.780 of four more than $1,100 a year.

00:20:09.280 Gross.

00:20:09.660 That is unbelievable. 0.84

00:20:12.200 Just think of all the families of four that you know, right?

00:20:15.500 Think about them in your neighborhood.

00:20:17.320 Add an $1,100 annual price tag onto that.

00:20:21.540 That is just crazy.

00:20:23.120 All right, Franco, while we're wrapping up here, so is it fair to say then that you see

00:20:27.820 the looming budget, okay, and the fight to balance it, the size of the bureaucracy as the main

00:20:34.320 fights going into the House of Commons?

00:20:35.760 Do you think that the fight against the ban on the sale of gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles,

00:20:41.540 is that going to be front and center too?

00:20:43.560 Will we be able to, like, have more than one focus?

00:20:46.780 Oh, yeah.

00:20:47.360 So we've already mentioned a couple focuses, the budget coming and the massive debt problem

00:20:51.680 that we're in and going to try to get ourselves out of.

00:20:53.740 We also mentioned the fight with the bureaucracy, the greedy government union bosses, right?

00:20:58.480 So let me just give a couple more.

00:21:00.320 And let me actually frame it with just within the economy and natural resources, okay?

00:21:05.060 And there's two fights within that broader category.

00:21:07.760 The first one is the ban on the sale of new gas and diesel vehicles by 2035.

00:21:13.260 So Carney is announcing that he is delaying it by a year because that was, you know, that

00:21:18.280 was supposed to start to kick in in 2026, but he's going to delay it by a year and do

00:21:22.880 a 60-day review.

00:21:24.520 Number one, not good enough.

00:21:26.360 This is a horrible policy.

00:21:27.820 Maybe the biggest taxpayer boondoggle yet.

00:21:30.540 The government must completely scrap it.

00:21:33.240 Number two, Carney says he's doing a 60-day review on this.

00:21:36.340 Well, you know what?

00:21:37.500 That review better not turn into backroom negotiations where the government uses billions of taxpayer

00:21:42.440 dollars in the form of corporate welfare to try to woo these corporations to get in

00:21:46.460 line.

00:21:47.160 But even beyond that, Chris, you're hearing a lot of talk about this major project office,

00:21:51.320 right?

00:21:51.780 The government trying to fast-track a couple natural resource projects.

00:21:56.460 Well, here's the thing.

00:21:58.060 Taxpayers, Canadians, we don't need politicians and bureaucrats pretending like they know which

00:22:03.000 project is in the national interest, okay?

00:22:06.040 We need these politicians and bureaucrats to get out of the way, to cut the regulations 0.98

00:22:10.500 that are making it almost impossible for us to build major natural resource projects here

00:22:15.360 in Canada.

00:22:16.020 That means getting rid of Bill C-69, the No More Pipelines law, Bill C-48, the discriminatory

00:22:21.380 tanker ban, and scrapping all carbon taxes.

00:22:26.080 Yeah, big time.

00:22:27.120 I'll put a bow on it here.

00:22:29.460 I don't want people to get confused when they're hearing Prime Minister Mark Carney talking about

00:22:35.300 building big things.

00:22:37.320 We don't want the government to use taxpayers' money to build the big things.

00:22:42.420 That isn't the answer here.

00:22:43.920 As Franco has illustrated so well, we don't have the money to do this.

00:22:48.740 We have un-money, okay?

00:22:50.340 So, A, we don't have the money for this.

00:22:52.060 B, government is terrible at doing things.

00:22:55.360 Like, awful.

00:22:56.300 It's going to wind up going way over budget, like we saw when Kinder Morgan walked away

00:23:00.760 and the Canadian taxpayers had to take over building the Trans Mountain Pipeline.

00:23:04.840 It wound up going way over budget, and it never should have happened.

00:23:08.120 The issue here is that normal, like, investors, okay, around the world who have money to spend

00:23:16.300 are looking around the world of where they want to put their wallet down, which park bench

00:23:22.340 in the world are they comfortable putting their wallet down, where they will trust that

00:23:26.940 it's going to be safeguarded and their investment will turn into good things, like functioning

00:23:32.100 seaports, like a pipeline, right?

00:23:35.580 Canada has broken that trust for the past 10 years.

00:23:39.100 Now, these people with money are like, I'm not putting my money there.

00:23:42.800 They need to fix that problem.

00:23:44.740 This isn't a government isn't building things enough problem.

00:23:48.480 This is government has made it so that, you know, no big investors trust Canada enough

00:23:53.340 with their money problem.

00:23:55.000 So, I'm glad to hear them talking about, you know, big projects and getting our stuff out

00:23:59.840 to market because it helps taxpayers that would help our economy and help workers, but

00:24:04.160 they got to do things the right way, man.

00:24:06.400 Franco, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:24:08.600 We really appreciate it.

00:24:10.060 Have fun up on Parliament Hill and give him heck.

00:24:13.140 Hey, Chris.

00:24:13.580 Always a pleasure.

00:24:14.320 Thank you.

00:24:14.740 Once again, that was Franco Terrazzano.

00:24:16.900 He is the federal director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

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The Candice Malcolm Show - September 15, 2025

Parliament returns as Carney warns of WORSE deficit

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