The Candice Malcolm Show - Pierre Poilievre finally gets tough on deportations

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. I hope everyone is having a

00:00:09.720 wonderful day. Hopefully you're feeling okay. I'm a little under the weather just to warn you. And

00:00:14.080 the thing that happens in my house is that my kids wake up incredibly early, like ungodly,

00:00:19.400 ungodly hour. My husband and I used to sort of take turns getting up with them. Someone's always

00:00:23.700 up at five o'clock. Like we have four kids under the age of six. One of them is always getting us

00:00:28.540 up at five o'clock. And I think basically we've just like resigned to the fact that we will be

00:00:33.860 getting up early. And so it's forced us to go to bed super early. So now sometimes I wake up at five

00:00:38.280 o'clock and I'm the first one awake, but I always wake up at five. And I feel like when you're feeling

00:00:42.160 a little under the weather, you really need a good night's sleep. And when you have four little kids,

00:00:45.920 you just never, ever get a good night's sleep. We've got a lot of news to get to on the show today.

00:00:51.260 I'm really excited by the headlines and what I'm seeing in the news. We talked about it a lot on

00:00:55.580 the show yesterday with Donald Trump, laying out his agenda, his incredibly popular agenda,

00:01:00.780 by the way. And just saying enough is enough. If you came to our country illegally, you have to go. 1.00

00:01:05.960 If you came to the country illegally and you are a criminal, you are getting deported now. I think

00:01:10.220 that is just so much common sense, something that I personally in my career as a journalist

00:01:13.780 and a pundit have been talking about for years and years and years, like decades at this point.

00:01:18.920 So it's great to see a world leader on the stage actually following through with it.

00:01:22.460 And I think it's having an effect here in Canada because our own conservative leader,

00:01:26.760 Pierre Polyev, made similar comments. We're going to get to all of that in the show. We're

00:01:29.960 going to talk about the latest with Danielle Smith, the trade war. We're going to talk about

00:01:33.920 the liberal leadership race. And for the entire show, I'm very pleased to be joined by journalist

00:01:38.480 Rachel Parker. Rachel is the host of the Rachel Parker Show here at True North. She was formerly

00:01:43.940 our Alberta correspondent. She's covered Alberta politics extensively. Prior to joining True North,

00:01:50.060 she worked for iPolitics. She did a very prestigious internship with the Globe and Mail. She's written

00:01:55.520 for the Toronto Star. So she was a mainstream media, now a journalist, and now she's come over to the

00:02:00.340 good side, the independent side. So Rachel, welcome to the program. Thank you for joining us.

00:02:05.760 We matched today.

00:02:08.200 I think we matched last time we were on the show too. I think somehow, you know, we're sending each

00:02:12.820 other signals there. So I want to talk about the news today. I want to talk about Pierre Polyev.

00:02:17.420 Coming out stronger than I've ever heard him before. So I'm going to play this clip. This is

00:02:22.420 Pierre Polyev. He was speaking at the Holocaust Commemoration Ceremony yesterday, Monday, January

00:02:27.000 27th in Ottawa. And he made a very clear statement about what's going to happen when he becomes prime

00:02:33.380 minister. Let's play that clip. 0.97

00:02:34.880 We see on our own streets, anti-Semitism guided by obscene, woke ideologies that have

00:02:43.560 led to an explosion in hate crimes. Hate crimes were up over 100 percent in Canada before October

00:02:51.460 7th. Now they're up 251 percent with Jews being the principal victims of those crimes. 0.78

00:03:00.640 We must not just condemn these things. We must take action against them. We must deport from our

00:03:07.960 country. Any temporary resident that is here on a permit or a visa that is carrying out violence 1.00

00:03:14.840 or hate crimes on our soil.

00:03:18.960 So strong words there from Pierre Polyev. And just so that we're clear about what he's saying,

00:03:24.140 like there's strong sentiment, I think, in Canada, and this is what's happening in the United States,

00:03:27.540 to deport people who are in the country illegally and who are also violent criminals. 0.52

00:03:31.620 So two different categories. People who are in the country illegally, it's still split on whether

00:03:36.860 or not, you know, we want them all deported or whether the ones that are adhering to all other 0.85

00:03:40.620 laws should go. But if you're a criminal, you're here illegally, you have to go. That's what Trump

00:03:44.580 is doing. In Canada, what he's saying is even people who are here on legal visas, Rachel, people

00:03:50.460 who came to the country legally as a student or a temporary worker who are not yet citizens,

00:03:55.760 if you engage in violence or commit a hate crime. I mean, just look at the vitriol that we see from

00:04:04.240 these protests and rallies in support of a terrorist group, Hamas. We've seen it all over the country,

00:04:09.420 particularly bad in Toronto and Montreal. But, you know, these images of people coming out basically

00:04:15.480 in support of a ruthless, vicious terrorist group, a death cult, celebrating a massacre against women

00:04:22.780 and children in their homes in Israel. You know, these are the kind of people that Pierre Polyev is

00:04:29.880 talking about. I haven't heard him say anything quite this strong when it comes to his positions

00:04:36.140 on immigration. What do you take away from all of this? My sense of Pierre Polyev and the

00:04:42.800 conservatives is that they are really watching the moods and the attitudes of Canadians. We've seen this

00:04:48.920 with Pierre Polyev time and time again. He can be slow to speak, which can be a very good thing,

00:04:53.520 and he frequently refers back to saying, I'm not the prime minister. I'm the leader of the official

00:04:59.020 opposition. It's not my responsibility to be responding to these incidents. For example, that was

00:05:04.280 his line when it came to the tariffs. Some of the premiers were pushing retaliatory tariffs.

00:05:09.680 Obviously, we know that Ottawa and Justin Trudeau and Melanie Jolie were pushing that. Melanie Jolie

00:05:14.020 even threatening to turn off the taps here in Alberta. And Pierre Polyev was pretty slow,

00:05:18.920 to come out with a response saying, it's not my job to respond to these things. And I think he uses

00:05:23.740 the fact that he is the opposition leader to the absolute best of his ability. And, you know,

00:05:30.700 he's really careful not to make sort of unforced errors. So if he doesn't have to respond to

00:05:35.020 something, he's not going to, unless he's absolutely sure he's captured the mood of the Canadians

00:05:40.380 and knows what to say. Now, you can criticize this. You can say that he should be more of a leader,

00:05:45.220 that he should be more forthright with his views on things and coming out with his positions.

00:05:50.040 But it is good politics. That much is obvious. So in this instant, we've seen Pierre Polyev sort of

00:05:56.920 sit on the sidelines with the immigration issue. He hasn't been too vocal. And over the last year,

00:06:02.040 you know, we've seen him sort of ramp up his rhetoric. And that is because Canadians are fed up

00:06:07.420 with the illegal immigration and we are fed up with the hate crimes. We are consistently seeing scenes

00:06:12.960 out of Toronto and the GTA that look like something out of a third world country. There are

00:06:18.180 neighborhoods in this country that I would not go with my children. That is a crazy thing to say as

00:06:22.820 a Canadian. And I would never say that 10 years ago, but balkanization is happening in certain parts

00:06:27.720 of the GTA. And it's simply not safe for a young mother to be with her children. And Canadians are fed

00:06:32.700 up with that. And Pierre Polyev recognizes that. So we're seeing him ramp up his rhetoric here

00:06:37.180 because he feels confident that it is the attitude of the nation that he is capturing

00:06:41.700 when he talks about deportations. It's such a good point that he is slow to talk because

00:06:46.120 another example, and we talked about this on the show last week, was him sort of being slow

00:06:50.360 to the take when it came to the issue of trans. And so Danielle Smith came out and announced the 0.92

00:06:55.200 policy that youth were not going to be able to have access to sex change operations and cross-sex

00:07:00.440 hormones and all this kind of stuff that causes irreparable damage and harm to children.

00:07:05.780 Not going to happen in Alberta. Pierre was quite late to that. It took a couple of days or maybe

00:07:10.980 even a week or two of prodding from the media for him to finally take a position. When he did,

00:07:14.600 he took the right one. So I give him credit for that. You know, a lot of conservative leaders

00:07:18.620 in this country in the past have been accused of just kind of following the polls and looking

00:07:22.580 where the polls are and waiting to draft their message until they see the polls. I don't get

00:07:26.360 that sense from Pierre. I get the sense that he really, you know, you said that he does a good

00:07:30.180 job of capturing the mood of Canadians. I get that sense too, that it's not that he's sitting

00:07:34.960 in the back listening to advisors telling him what to do on each issue, that he's actually

00:07:38.980 listening to people. He's out there hearing things, seeing things. And to your point,

00:07:43.120 when he takes a position, he is going to make sure that it is the right one. What do you think

00:07:47.600 about him talking? Because he wasn't talking about deporting illegals or even people with

00:07:53.040 criminal records per se. He was talking about violent, hateful offenders, specifically in the

00:08:01.280 context of anti-Semitism and hate crimes. What do you think about that specific point?

00:08:05.500 I think that it's a common sense approach and he's someone who's consistently touted himself

00:08:10.500 as a common sense principled leader. The people who are in here on permits and visas are in this

00:08:16.820 country on the permission of the Canadian government who receives its power from the

00:08:20.760 Canadian people. If you are not yet a Canadian citizen, you do not have a right to be in this 0.89

00:08:25.140 country. And if you are going to be committing crimes or if you are going to be committing hate

00:08:29.380 crimes, then we have every right to rescind your ability to be in this country. And we absolutely

00:08:34.260 should do so. It's time to put Canadians first again. And the fact that Pierre Polyev has taken

00:08:39.320 this extra step by saying people who are in this country on the permission of the Canadian

00:08:44.140 government, whether that through a visa or a permit, if they are going to be committing

00:08:47.660 illegal acts, then they are going to have to leave. As I said, he's picking up on the mood of

00:08:52.220 the nation and he's even taking it a step further, potentially because he hasn't been super vocal

00:08:56.860 on this issue. And we've seen the tides turn so much. I think another example of this

00:09:01.020 is the fact that an individual, Ruby Dalla, I'm sure we'll talk more about her later.

00:09:05.220 Yeah, we got that. We got that. We're going to talk about it later in the show.

00:09:08.160 Who's running for the Liberal Party leadership. I mean, she's even coming out and talking about

00:09:11.660 deportations. So this is quickly becoming a very popular talking point in Canada. I'm very glad to

00:09:18.080 see it. And we're seeing Pierre Polyev take it even a next step further. And to me, it gives me a lot

00:09:24.540 of hope when I see this sort of rhetoric enter Canadian politics, because it's becoming normalized

00:09:30.560 to talk about deportations in Canada, where it wasn't for so long. And I think that it's a necessary 0.57

00:09:35.860 thing for this country as it is a necessary thing for the United States of America.

00:09:40.560 Absolutely. I think it's a step in the right direction, Rachel, but I don't think that Pierre

00:09:43.580 goes nearly far enough. I think that he really needs to up his game. I had Maxine Bernier, the People's

00:09:48.060 Party leader on last week, and he made it very clear that he would deport, deport, deport. I think

00:09:54.020 that one of the issues, you know, you said that Pierre hasn't been very vocal. This issue hit the

00:09:58.240 news last week, that the number of gas and refugees, refugees from Gaza that are coming to Canada,

00:10:05.500 we learned from Blackhawks report on January 17, that the feds approved a $3,000 tax free grant

00:10:11.340 to each individual gas and refugee, plus an additional $1,500 per child, plus free healthcare,

00:10:18.060 that is according to our friends over in Blacklock. Mark Miller, immigration minister, previously

00:10:23.540 announced a five-fold increase in the number of gas and refugees being let into Canada, upping the

00:10:30.360 limit to 5,000. A very good point from Michael Campbell of Money Talks, which is just that Canada

00:10:39.220 has accepted more refugees from Gaza than most Middle East countries combined. So like, why are we taking 1.00

00:10:47.840 these people in? Just to provide a bit more context, people in Gaza, the Gaza Strip is an incredibly

00:10:54.600 radical place. Like, the governing party of that area is Hamas, the terrorist group. Hamas receives

00:11:03.620 overwhelming support from the people. Recent polls show that more than half of Gazans support the Hamas

00:11:10.080 party. An overwhelming majority of those people supported the massacre of children and women and

00:11:16.360 families in their homes on October 7. So these are incredibly radical people that we are literally

00:11:22.760 paying to come to Canada and we are giving them free welfare when they get here. And like, like the

00:11:28.220 countries around them, like Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, any of those countries don't want them. Saudi 1.00

00:11:33.780 Arabia, the Muslim majority countries in the region don't want them because the people are so radical. 1.00

00:11:38.240 They have been brainwashed to believe just horrendous things about the West and about Jews. Like, they 1.00

00:11:44.240 need serious denazification before they come to Canada. And here we are welcoming these people with 1.00

00:11:49.760 open arms. Why wouldn't Pierre stand up against that and say, hey, maybe we shouldn't be letting in

00:11:54.960 people who have incredibly radical views in the midst of a war. This was the topic, Rachel, of my 2016

00:12:01.220 book, Losing True North, Justin Trudeau's Assault on Canadian Citizenship. Basically, right after Trudeau

00:12:07.380 was elected, I laid out the problems with his ideology with his immigration policy, specifically

00:12:12.740 his policies about letting in 50,000 Syrians on a rush basis without proper national security checks,

00:12:20.620 without ideological screening. And the problem with bringing in people like that at the time,

00:12:25.700 you know, I think it was like one in three Syrians supported ISIS, like, like literally support ISIS.

00:12:29.840 And we're like, hey, come on in, come to Canada. You know, the problem is, is, is deep. And it's

00:12:36.500 been happening for decades now, where you have really, really radical people in Canada. I mean,

00:12:41.300 the number of ISIS fighters who returned to Canada is still large number of radicals, we don't even

00:12:46.240 track it. But again, this this kind of all just goes to show that there's a lot of problems when it

00:12:52.900 comes to our immigration system and the radicalization of the people that we're selecting. And yeah, it's great 0.95

00:12:57.420 that Pierre is starting to pay attention to it. But I think that he has to go much, much further.

00:13:01.300 What do you think?

00:13:02.940 To answer your question, you know, why didn't he go further? As I've said before, I think that he is

00:13:07.060 someone who is very calculated and is never going to say more than he has to, to get his point across.

00:13:13.380 I think he's going to be careful not to alienate any potential voters ahead of the upcoming election.

00:13:18.920 And so I think he's going to say just enough that he needs to so that Canadians can feel

00:13:22.720 like he's on our side without maybe making those ideological points about who these people are and

00:13:27.440 where they're coming from, because he wouldn't want to alienate any potential voters. And I think

00:13:31.720 there's a really simple argument to make here. I mean, you've raised your concerns about the people

00:13:35.640 that are coming here and, and what their views might be in those views that they might be bringing

00:13:39.400 to Canada. But there's another really simple argument to make here. That's just simply Canada's

00:13:44.000 full. We don't have room for any more immigrants. We actually physically do not have the housing for 1.00

00:13:48.680 them. We do not have the school care for them. We do not have the health care for them.

00:13:51.880 Every Canadian knows that it is an absolute nightmare when you have to go to the hospital

00:13:55.480 right now or visit your family doctor, or God forbid, if you need to see a specialist,

00:13:59.860 you are going to be on that wait list for absolute months. So for Canadians who are suffering under the

00:14:05.940 weight of failed socialism, and they're hearing that their government is going to be importing more

00:14:09.900 people here and offering them welfare that already isn't working for the Canadian people who have

00:14:14.740 paid into it for their entire lives. It's absolutely blood boiling. And I can tell you right now that

00:14:19.620 there isn't a single Canadian family who would turn down the extra help of one time payments to them,

00:14:25.220 especially $1,500 per kid. Most people are really struggling under the inflationary crisis that

00:14:30.280 the liberal government is responsible for. And instead, this government is totally tone deaf on

00:14:34.940 the needs of Canadians, and is going to be paying out newcomers that Canadians just don't want right now. 0.99

00:14:40.280 That's so true. Well, speaking of healthcare, I talked about healthcare a little bit on the show

00:14:43.300 yesterday. And I made the point my own personal experience, being in a hospital in Canada versus being one

00:14:48.180 in the United States. Bar none, the United States one was just like so much nicer and better.

00:14:53.480 I take the point that I had good health insurance, thanks to my husband's job.

00:14:57.120 And particularly, I just noticed in the comments, some people were like taking issue with that and

00:15:00.740 saying, well, if you're not insured, or if you are self-employed or a business owner,

00:15:07.440 you don't get the good insurance in the United States. That's a good point. But of course,

00:15:11.660 this is all in the context, Rachel, that Trump said that if Canada were to join America,

00:15:16.160 we would have better health coverage, which is an interesting one. I want to talk about Trump a

00:15:22.920 little bit, because his agenda is incredibly popular. According to a recent Ipsos poll,

00:15:30.020 55% of Americans support deporting all immigrants who are in the US illegally, support rises for 1.00

00:15:38.600 deporting immigrants who are in the country illegally, but who arrived during the recent wave,

00:15:43.200 63% want those ones gone. And then the deporting immigrants who have entered illegally and who have 1.00

00:15:51.460 criminal records, 87%, 87% of Americans unite behind Trump in saying, let's get these immigrants

00:15:58.200 who came illegally, you know, criminal records out of the country. That includes 94% of Republicans 0.57

00:16:03.300 and 83% of Democrats. Wow. That is a popular issue. Apparently, actress and singer Selena Gomez,

00:16:12.480 though, didn't get the message because she put out this video, just really misreading the cultural tide.

00:16:22.200 So let's, do we have this clip? Let's play this clip of Selena Gomez crying uncontrollably 1.00

00:16:27.700 about the deportation of illegal criminals.

00:16:31.080 I just want to say that I'm so sorry.

00:16:38.300 All my people are getting attacked.

00:16:42.120 The children.

00:16:46.640 They don't understand.

00:16:49.880 They're so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't.

00:16:54.200 I don't know what to do.

00:16:57.700 I'll try everything, I promise.

00:17:02.920 So I think she missed the memo here, Rachel.

00:17:06.000 That was like so 2016 that we cared about what Hollywood actors and singers had to say

00:17:11.040 and that they were allowed to just like, you know, put on a performative sob there and get support from people.

00:17:17.840 So I like Charlie Kirk's reaction, conservative American commentator.

00:17:22.200 She goes, my people. He goes, what, my people? Aren't you American?

00:17:25.920 Were you sobbing at the over 100,000 Americans dead from fentanyl poisoning?

00:17:30.540 Were there tears over the 340,000 children who went missing after being trafficked at the border?

00:17:36.060 Why aren't the Americans your people? 0.99

00:17:38.760 Of course, Selena Gomez is a widely, is just a hugely influential person.

00:17:43.240 She has 422 million followers on Instagram.

00:17:47.180 She's reportedly a billionaire from her makeup empire as well as her acting and singing career.

00:17:53.060 I was sure at a young age she was on Disney.

00:17:55.300 She quickly deleted that video, though, Rachel, because of backlash.

00:17:58.680 So the tides have turned.

00:18:00.160 Americans support Trump.

00:18:01.340 They support this agenda.

00:18:02.840 And, you know, you don't get to cry and pretend that you're sad over deporting criminal illegals. 0.85

00:18:09.120 What's your take on all this?

00:18:10.380 Just to put this into context, like Selena Gomez was the up and coming when I was really young.

00:18:15.440 Like I watched her first ever music video and was obsessed with it.

00:18:19.060 I was probably like 12 or something at the time.

00:18:21.440 So I was always a really big Selena Gomez fan.

00:18:23.720 As I've gotten older and all these Hollywood celebrities have gone woke, it's like can be at times, depending on the celebrity, sometimes I'm able to sort of like compartmentalize their politics versus liking their stuff.

00:18:33.380 But the truth of the matter is she actually hasn't really put out anything very good.

00:18:36.420 So it's pretty easy just to throw her in the camp of people that I don't take seriously or care for the artwork that she puts out.

00:18:41.960 The questions that come to my mind when she put this video is one thing.

00:18:46.440 So she's crying.

00:18:48.140 What about people like Lake and Riley who were raped and murdered by illegal immigrants? 0.94

00:18:52.100 Again, you know, to Charlie Kirk's point, she also had no tears for Lake and Riley or for the many other women of America who were raped and killed by illegal immigrants. 0.68

00:19:00.300 And the other thing that really caught my attention there when she's going, my people.

00:19:05.240 Yeah, she's talking about my people.

00:19:06.740 She's referring to illegals.

00:19:08.420 She's not referring to Americans.

00:19:10.200 So, you know, I saw this funny post yesterday.

00:19:12.240 It's like, oh, so she's obviously an illegal. 1.00

00:19:14.000 Maybe we should just deport her to be safe. 0.93

00:19:16.380 But, you know, the thing that caught my attention was the people who have been deported by, you know, ICE so far.

00:19:23.520 They're not, you know, the young innocent families who are here illegal.

00:19:27.100 It's the hardened criminals.

00:19:28.220 Those are the people that are being prioritized right now.

00:19:31.380 So for any American to have tears for the fact that illegal hardened criminals who have raped Americans, who have stolen from Americans, and to have tears for that just shows how disingenuous this is.

00:19:44.400 Because, as I've said, this isn't the, she's talking about the children.

00:19:48.440 These aren't the people who are being prioritized right now.

00:19:50.600 It's the people who have criminal records that have been on ICE's, you know, ICE has been paying attention to them for a number of weeks, if not years now.

00:19:58.120 They haven't had the powers to do anything about it.

00:20:00.120 Those are the people that are being deported, and everyone in America should be celebrating that.

00:20:04.260 Absolutely, absolutely.

00:20:05.200 And it just shows, like, I kind of wonder, like, where does Selena Gomez get her news from?

00:20:09.460 Like, what, like, is she just so out of touch that she really believes all the sort of hoaxes and memes that, like, ICE is, like, breaking down doors to schools and pulling kids away?

00:20:18.100 Because it's not happening.

00:20:18.960 To your point, it's literally the gang members.

00:20:21.440 It's the ones who have taken over apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, or, you know, the people who have been convicted of crimes who are part of these gangs.

00:20:30.880 Like, it just seems to me, like, really, I kind of, like, wonder, like, I'm worried about her.

00:20:37.120 Like, is she okay over there?

00:20:38.320 Like, why is she crying?

00:20:39.200 Why is she breaking down? 0.82

00:20:40.460 Who's feeding her the news?

00:20:41.500 She needs to be, like, I don't know.

00:20:43.440 It seems like she's been brainwashed or something.

00:20:45.200 And the fact that she quickly deleted that post means that, obviously, she caught on and maybe someone's actually filling her in now.

00:20:53.020 Maybe she's being fed some solid truth through the independent media.

00:20:57.220 I hope so.

00:20:58.340 But to your point, you mentioned this earlier, Rachel, that even the libs in Canada are coming around to the idea that we need to start deporting people who shouldn't be here.

00:21:06.760 And so we're talking, of course, about Ruby Dalla, who is a former MP from Brampton, which is a very dense immigration population area in the GTA.

00:21:18.160 She's running for leader. 1.00

00:21:19.660 We played this on the show yesterday, but we'll play it again.

00:21:23.260 She reiterated her plan that she wants to deport all illegal immigrants living in Canada.

00:21:29.580 Let's play that post.

00:21:30.900 There are over half a million illegal immigrants in Canada.

00:21:36.760 This is unacceptable.

00:21:39.460 As the daughter of immigrant parents, I know firsthand that immigrants have helped build our great country.

00:21:48.560 But we must clamp down on human trafficking and those that are here illegally. 1.00

00:21:55.920 As your Prime Minister, I promise you, I will deport every illegal immigrant in Canada. 1.00

00:22:03.860 Yeah. 0.97

00:22:05.460 Wow.

00:22:06.020 So, sorry, my mistake.

00:22:07.640 We didn't play that clip yesterday.

00:22:08.660 It's a new clip.

00:22:09.180 She posted this video herself on her X page, but she's using pretty firm language.

00:22:14.520 Again, language that I would like to hear from all parties.

00:22:17.040 I'm happy that the liberals or some liberals are taking this problem seriously.

00:22:20.560 What are your thoughts, Rachel?

00:22:21.520 I sense that, you know, the liberal establishment isn't taking Ruby seriously as a contender.

00:22:29.200 And so she's sort of offering these outside views that you wouldn't really hear the party brass repeat.

00:22:35.000 But it is refreshing.

00:22:36.660 And as I said, I think the important thing here is that we're seeing a big narrative shift in Canada, that it is becoming popular and normal to talk about deportations for illegals.

00:22:46.260 And as we said before, with Pierre Polyev even taking that a step further.

00:22:49.120 So I think that this is refreshing to see.

00:22:51.220 I'm also really enjoying watching the sort of disaster that the federal leadership race is unfolding before us, because there's absolutely no way for them to enforce who's registering to be a member of the liberal party, which would be one thing if it was just voting for the leader of a new party.

00:23:06.260 But you're also voting for the next prime minister of Canada at the same time.

00:23:09.540 So it certainly is adding a lot of ethical questions.

00:23:12.480 But now we're seeing, you know, a lot of organizers across the country essentially attempt to co-opt this leadership race.

00:23:18.960 We saw that, you know, everyone was throwing their support behind Arian Chandra, who is now removed from the leadership race because he said he didn't speak French and he said he didn't think that.

00:23:30.640 And I sort of saw that coming.

00:23:32.320 I'll be honest.

00:23:32.860 I sort of saw that coming when he said, oh, I don't speak French.

00:23:35.240 And, you know, the Quebecers, they don't care.

00:23:37.800 Like that was obviously not true.

00:23:40.300 And I was like, I suspect that he might be removed from the race because of that. 0.98

00:23:44.280 But you have to kind of wonder the timing of it all.

00:23:46.280 I mean, he made those comments quite a while before.

00:23:49.060 And then all of a sudden we see all these people signing up for the liberal leadership race, attempting to co-opt the movement to vote him in.

00:23:54.640 And then the party comes out and announces that he's actually going to be removed from the race.

00:23:58.300 So I'm kind of sitting back watching this and saying, how many people did sign up for the liberal leadership race to vote for him?

00:24:04.700 Was it actually making the leadership uncomfortable?

00:24:06.880 And now we're seeing those same people who are now saying they're going to vote for Ruby.

00:24:11.380 And, you know, it actually seems like she has some great common sense policy.

00:24:14.360 So I'm curious to see how this all shapes up and to see what kind of support she ends up landing in the liberal leadership race.

00:24:20.560 Yeah.

00:24:20.740 I mean, certainly she's not part of the establishment.

00:24:22.780 You know, you have Mark Carney out there pretending that he's not part of the establishment when we all know he is very much an insider.

00:24:27.940 Ruby Dolly kind of disappeared for a while and hasn't been in there. 0.84

00:24:30.880 She's probably a lot more in touch with what people think and believe.

00:24:34.100 And the fact that even in her community of Brampton, she's hearing and she's supporting this idea that you got to deport people.

00:24:39.480 And she says half a million in that video.

00:24:41.160 The number is so much larger of people who have come to this country, made asylum claims, most of them very bogus.

00:24:46.520 They don't show up for the court hearings or their case gets rejected and they don't show up for their deportation order.

00:24:51.540 Trudeau also said that he was going to cancel the visas and presumably deport or he asked them to leave all of the student visas and all of those students that they brought in that have just created an unbelievable cost of living crisis.

00:25:05.820 So, look, I agree that it's amusing to watch the Liberal Party implode and watch a total disaster show that Justin Trudeau has left in the wake.

00:25:14.360 I have a hard time finding it amusing in the context of the fact that Canada doesn't have any leadership.

00:25:19.640 We're facing a looming trade war.

00:25:22.060 We have a president of the United States who's incredibly strong making threats at Canada.

00:25:25.540 We need a leader.

00:25:26.460 We need an election.

00:25:27.700 And, you know, it would be fun to watch the party implode and the leadership race happen in this way if it weren't so dire for the country.

00:25:36.160 I want to show you this.

00:25:37.980 This is just kind of funny.

00:25:39.060 Ruby Dolly put up a graphic on her X page saying this is what real change looks like.

00:25:43.620 The graphic, I'll read it for the listening audience.

00:25:46.660 It says, Ruby Dolly will, let me say it again, Ruby Dolly will deport every illegal immigrant living in Canada as prime minister. 0.97

00:25:56.100 Now, if you just read that and didn't quite understand that she's running for prime minister, it kind of sounds like she's saying that she would deport every illegal immigrant living in Canada who is also prime minister.

00:26:06.760 You had Tristan Hopper over at the National Post pointing this out not to be pedantic.

00:26:11.020 This is technically saying everyone who is in the country illegally and also prime minister would be deported.

00:26:16.000 A couple of other people making this joke.

00:26:19.240 Ah, it's pretty funny.

00:26:20.360 I don't know.

00:26:21.800 It's such a journalist thing to make that type of joke.

00:26:25.920 Like, they just can't help themselves.

00:26:27.280 You're right, because I was like, eh, I don't think that's very funny.

00:26:30.580 I'm not going to include it in the show.

00:26:31.640 And then my producers were like, no, it's funny.

00:26:34.400 Sorry, not to throw you guys under the bus there.

00:26:36.280 But my husband also thought it was really funny.

00:26:39.000 He tweeted about it.

00:26:39.760 But yeah, I think a bit of inside baseball there.

00:26:44.800 You know, actually speaking of foreigners, because you're talking about that, the Foreign Interference Inquiry is set to release its report, its final report today.

00:26:53.820 So a lot of us are very interested in this, the final report from the Public Inquiry into Foreign Interference in Canadian Elections, led by Commissioner Hogue, set to be released today.

00:27:04.780 So it's coming out, it's probably out now, I haven't had a chance to look into it and dissect it, but we will for sure on tomorrow's show.

00:27:11.920 The inquiry conducted in two phases examined the foreign interference in the 2019 and 2021 elections.

00:27:19.820 The initial report found no significant outcome, but this report coming out today, or that's out today, is expected to provide recommendations to improve protection from foreign meddling.

00:27:32.760 We know what's happening.

00:27:33.560 I don't think they're going to name names.

00:27:34.920 We know that there's 11 MPs who are supposedly the beneficiary of foreign funding.

00:27:39.680 Like, we're talking about adversarial states like China, funding MPs, individual MPs in our country.

00:27:45.400 They won't tell us who.

00:27:46.580 I hope this is one of those issues that if Pierre gets elected, he will expose who those 11 MPs are, because Canadians deserve to know which of our representatives are actually representing a foreign adversarial state.

00:27:59.360 You know, the liberal leadership race is just absolutely ripe for abuse because of those ridiculous rules.

00:28:06.480 You don't have to pay anything. 0.93

00:28:07.660 You don't even have to be a citizen.

00:28:09.320 I don't even think you have to live in Canada. 0.99

00:28:10.640 It's just completely ridiculous. 0.97

00:28:14.080 It doesn't seem like our country, it doesn't seem like a country that takes itself very seriously. 0.95

00:28:18.080 You know, you hear a lot of Canadians on the left, Rachel, really taking offense to Trump, saying Canada's not for sale.

00:28:25.180 You know, how dare you try to undermine our sovereignty and integrity.

00:28:27.520 It's like, that's already happening, guys.

00:28:29.580 The country's already, you know, really fallen apart over here.

00:28:33.200 I don't know if you're noticing, but you literally have foreign adversaries funding MPs in this country.

00:28:38.620 You know, so what's your take on this whole report?

00:28:42.700 Well, I think the question is whether the liberal party will take it seriously and if they will implement some of the recommendations in their ongoing leadership race.

00:28:51.660 It's not too late for them to do so, and that could show, you know, a real effort that they care about Canada's national sovereignty and they're taking these claims seriously, but we haven't seen that from them up to par.

00:29:01.980 And you're certainly correct that the liberal leadership race is just ripe for foreign interference because there's absolutely no safeguards surrounding it. 0.52

00:29:09.060 I had Brian Lilly on my show a couple weeks ago, and he was warning about the same thing as soon as the leadership race was announced.

00:29:15.240 It was evident to a lot of people that there was no safeguards around the election and that China wanted to get involved in it.

00:29:20.840 There's not really going to be anything stopping them.

00:29:23.100 So the liberal party has an opportunity here to do the right thing and to implement some of these recommendations in their leadership race to ensure that it's actually Canadians who are voting for their next prime minister.

00:29:33.320 I mean, even a simple rule change would probably help in that regard.

00:29:37.040 And, you know, there should be some credentials that you might have to show, although I know the liberal party doesn't really like the idea of ensuring that Canadian citizens are the ones voting in their elections or certainly in their leadership races.

00:29:48.180 But they have an opportunity to prove that this is an issue they care about.

00:29:51.440 We know that Justin Trudeau has been hammering Pierre Polyev for not obtaining the security clearance that he would need to, you know, receive that rapport on who those 11 MPs were.

00:30:01.380 And, you know, he's been trying to say that Pierre Polyev simply couldn't obtain that security clearance.

00:30:06.360 That's seen sort of the rumors we've been seeing spreaded by Trouvenon.

00:30:08.760 And, you know, hopefully we will see a Pierre Polyev government.

00:30:12.060 Hopefully we will see those MPs' names come forward.

00:30:14.520 I think it's a disservice to Canadians that information of such national security and importance to Canadians is being withheld from us.

00:30:20.720 But it's seeming like time and time again we really have more of a ruling class in Canada.

00:30:25.020 It doesn't seem like our politicians exist to serve us, but it's seeming more and more like Canadians exist to serve their ruling class. 0.93

00:30:32.060 I mean, I just don't understand how you can continue to be a member of parliament if we found that you take money from foreign adversarial state.

00:30:40.320 Like, it just doesn't even compute.

00:30:41.960 Like, why are they still here?

00:30:43.320 Why are they still getting money?

00:30:44.480 Why are they still representing us? 0.92

00:30:46.000 Like, name them and fire them.

00:30:47.840 And I don't even care what political party they're affiliated with.

00:30:50.620 Like, those people should not get to serve in public office in Canada.

00:30:54.380 I really, really hope that this report, you know, allows Canada to make some progress here because right now it is a bit of a joke how weak and insecure our system is.

00:31:05.980 Okay, Rachel, let's talk about the latest when it comes to the Libs and Trump's tariffs.

00:31:11.380 So I want to talk about this report that was in the Globe and Mail this morning.

00:31:14.240 This is just so typical Ottawa, so typical, like, the way that liberals react to threats.

00:31:19.360 Anytime there's an issue, it has to be a national strategy.

00:31:22.680 So the Globe and Mail basically just reporting that Ottawa is planning pandemic-level relief for workers and businesses if Trump imposes tariffs.

00:31:34.260 So anytime there's a problem, the federal government will sweep in with a national plan, a national plan, pandemic-level relief.

00:31:42.040 Let's just, like, pause for a second here.

00:31:44.000 Canada's broke.

00:31:44.880 Canada's bankrupt.

00:31:45.880 Canada spent way too much money because Justin Trudeau shut down the economy during the pandemic,

00:31:50.040 and then he paid everybody to not work for a couple of years.

00:31:53.180 And because of that, our country is bankrupt, basically.

00:31:55.840 And now he's saying, hey, we can just do it all again.

00:31:58.080 We'll just tap that magic money tree.

00:32:01.320 Borrow more money.

00:32:02.140 Leverage the future for future Canadians, young Canadians.

00:32:05.580 Borrow more.

00:32:06.420 And we will pay everybody again if Trump imposes these tariffs.

00:32:09.940 So according to the Globe and Mail's report here, it says that the federal government is planning a multibillion-dollar pandemic-style bailout for workers and businesses.

00:32:17.600 If U.S. President Donald Trump follows through on his threat to impose a 25% tariff on Canadian goods as early as Feb 1, two sources say.

00:32:24.780 The sources said that some of the measures, such as waiving a one-week waiting period for employment insurance benefits, do not require parliamentary approval.

00:32:32.320 Of course, an author always going to find ways, Rachel, to do things without actually getting the consent of the governed here.

00:32:37.820 It says the bulk of potential spending on new programs, not laid off workers and businesses affected by tariffs, will require legislative approval, which will not take place until parliament resumes all the way into March.

00:32:50.220 This just drives me absolutely crazy.

00:32:51.840 The liberals will always take the wrong approach, right?

00:32:53.840 Like Trump makes it pretty simple.

00:32:55.240 He says, hey, guys, your border is broken.

00:32:57.760 Hey, guys, you're sending all these horrible drugs into our country.

00:33:00.420 Fix those problems.

00:33:01.440 And what does Trudeau say?

00:33:02.740 Hey, I've got a better solution.

00:33:04.100 Why don't we just print all the money in the world and pay everybody instead?

00:33:08.100 What are your thoughts on this?

00:33:10.480 Well, to your point, we can't afford this.

00:33:12.980 We're still paying for the pandemic relief that was offered a few years ago.

00:33:17.300 I mean, our children's children's children is going to be paying for it.

00:33:20.560 Canadians have never felt their dollar being worth less.

00:33:23.400 Now the government wants to print even more money.

00:33:25.880 It's like Canadians are going to be paying for these tariffs over and over again because it's like we're going to be paying for the retaliatory tariffs.

00:33:30.980 We're going to be paying for the higher cost of goods.

00:33:32.380 We're going to be paying for it and that our money is going to be costing even less.

00:33:35.420 So there just really seems to be no end for the suffering of the Canadian people and our absolutely valueless dollar right now.

00:33:41.040 But the thing that probably irks me even more than this is Parliament is prorogued.

00:33:45.600 So how is the government getting permission to print this money and to spend this money?

00:33:49.180 It's the same thing that we're seeing right now with the capital gains tax increase.

00:33:53.860 It's that that was never debated or passed by Parliament.

00:33:57.180 And yet the CRA just said, well, you know, it was introduced.

00:34:01.280 So we're going to go ahead and enforce it anyways.

00:34:03.540 We've done some similar things in the past.

00:34:05.660 Now, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation is actually taking the CRA to court over this, saying you have no right to implement this tax hike that the MPs have not passed or, as I said, even debated.

00:34:18.900 And I certainly hope they will be fruitful in their efforts.

00:34:22.680 But it's again, time and time again, as I just said, the Canadian people, we elect officials.

00:34:27.540 They are supposed to rule for us.

00:34:28.840 But that is not how our system works because it is so broken and it is not working anymore.

00:34:33.580 Absolutely.

00:34:34.280 And I think I think just the idea that we can like, OK, we can withstand this.

00:34:37.920 We'll just start printing more money.

00:34:39.760 That's that's the kind of thinking that got us into this problem.

00:34:42.300 OK, so Chrystia Freeland, who's running for a liberal leader on Monday, she outlined her plan to protect the economy against Trump, which includes dollar for dollar retaliatory goods. 0.97

00:34:53.640 So she put out this post here just basically saying what what what she would do in terms of, to your point, you know, taxing Canadians on the money that we send out and taxing it through the money that we get in.

00:35:07.240 I don't think a trade war is a solution, but it seems to be the way that these liberals are going.

00:35:10.480 Likewise, you had Foreign Minister Melanie Jolie talking about how diplomacy can work.

00:35:17.480 So this is a clip from her on Monday telling reporters how she thinks that we should negotiate with the Americans.

00:35:24.620 When it comes to preventing tariffs, this is our number one priority and we're working at it every day.

00:35:31.720 Now we believe that diplomacy can work and that's why we're having private conversations and we won't negotiate on, you know, in front of of the public.

00:35:43.940 We believe that our arguments are strong.

00:35:46.940 I think that I've had numerous conversations where the reaction was actually very positive.

00:35:52.940 But meanwhile, there's still a lot of work.

00:35:55.940 This administration in the US is very unpredictable.

00:35:58.940 So we have to be ready and working on both fronts.

00:36:01.940 Like I was saying, preventing tariffs and at the same time working on our resistance.

00:36:05.940 Rachel, do you have faith in these people?

00:36:08.940 Do you have faith that they are going to be able to negotiate and stop Trump?

00:36:12.940 Well, absolutely not.

00:36:13.940 But I just want to point out a couple of things.

00:36:15.940 First and foremost, if you listen to Melanie Jolie frequently, she basically always has the same talking point when she's being interviewed, which is I'm not going to tell you the plan right now.

00:36:25.940 I'm not going to negotiate in front of the public because they don't have a plan.

00:36:29.940 She's got no ideas.

00:36:30.940 You can hear it in her delivery that she's not confident in what she's saying.

00:36:34.940 She doesn't even believe herself.

00:36:36.940 So I don't know why she expects you or I are going to believe her.

00:36:38.940 We can see that she's feeling unsure and insecure in her ability to perform this job.

00:36:43.940 She's certainly not adept at it.

00:36:45.940 And the other thing that I would say is when she talks about diplomacy, you guys are not being diplomats in the way that you should be.

00:36:52.940 You're talking about the need for diplomacy, then why aren't you doing that?

00:36:55.940 Why did you choose to hold a caucus retreat to the expense of Canadian taxpayers rather than going down to D.C. during the inauguration and doing everything you can to get meetings with the top officials and make the case for Canada?

00:37:10.940 They have done nothing.

00:37:12.940 I recently had a former special advisor to Jason Kenney on The Rachel Parker Show, David Nightlag, and he said, you know, I'm in D.C.

00:37:19.940 He was in D.C. for the inauguration.

00:37:21.940 He was talking to a number of people that he knows that are in the Trump administration.

00:37:27.940 And they noticed that no one from the reigning liberal party was in D.C. trying to get meetings.

00:37:34.940 And they also noticed that Danielle Smith from Alberta was there doing everything she could to make the case for Alberta.

00:37:39.940 And in some sense, you know, she did even receive some from grace from Donald Trump from that.

00:37:43.940 They noticed that Danielle Smith was there.

00:37:45.940 But Ottawa's absence was never more clear.

00:37:48.940 And they are not delivering for Canadians because they simply cannot get past their dislike of Trump.

00:37:54.940 And to the point that they've even conceded at doing their jobs at this point.

00:37:58.940 They're not willing to go and meet with him.

00:38:00.940 They're not willing to make the case for Canada.

00:38:02.940 They are simply standing back and saying, we've tried everything.

00:38:05.940 When in reality, they've tried nothing.

00:38:07.940 It was such a great interview that you did there with David.

00:38:09.940 And he made so many good points.

00:38:11.940 I think there's no doubt why 77% of Canadians want an election.

00:38:16.940 If you want an election, if you're watching this right now or listening to this right now, head on over to my website, CandiceMalcolm.com.

00:38:21.940 Sign my petition.

00:38:22.940 I'm trying to get as many signatures as possible so that I can personally deliver this petition to the Governor General to demand an election.

00:38:29.940 Canadians deserve an election.

00:38:31.940 We deserve a government that has a mandate to be down there negotiating with Trump on our behalf, not this ragtag group, especially not Justin Trudeau.

00:38:41.940 You know, it's I think that the point that they weren't down there, they weren't working the room.

00:38:47.940 You know, Danielle went to Mar-a-Lago.

00:38:49.940 Danielle Smith went to the inauguration.

00:38:52.940 And it's not just about glad handing with Trump.

00:38:55.940 I know like so many liberals and people on the left, you know, were accusing Danielle Smith of being an appeaser, you know, appeasement to Trump or being a traitor or undermining the attempts. 0.53

00:39:06.940 It's like, well, at least she was there.

00:39:08.940 She was making an attempt to befriend these people.

00:39:10.940 And that is what diplomacy is all about.

00:39:13.940 But I think Danielle took, you know, she was the one that took the risk and took a step out there.

00:39:18.940 And people are coming around.

00:39:19.940 You know, at first, I think a lot of Canadians were surprised to see that.

00:39:22.940 And now more and more, she's not a lone wolf on the provincial response.

00:39:26.940 So True North is reporting that we've seen provincial shifts when it comes to tariffs.

00:39:32.940 Smith no longer a lone wolf on provincial response to tariffs as Quebec and Saskatchewan shift.

00:39:39.940 So Smith's sentiment was recently echoed by Quebec progress.

00:39:43.940 Mayor Francois Legault, who said any retaliatory action involving energy exports south of the border should first require the approval of provinces and those affected regarding energy.

00:39:53.940 I think it's important that it affects a province that this province has to give its consent first.

00:40:00.940 Likewise, the leader of the Bloc Quebecois said absolutely no to an embargo on Canadian oil, of course, because the oil that Quebec gets from Alberta actually goes through the United States.

00:40:12.940 So any embargo would just shut off all of central Canada from Sarnia all the way up to Montreal. 0.99

00:40:16.940 So anyone suggesting that, I'm sorry, but they're an idiot and you shouldn't listen to them. 0.97

00:40:20.940 Likewise, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has come out supporting something more similar to Daniel Smith. 0.99

00:40:28.940 He's expressed his desire for a similar approach on the issue.

00:40:30.940 He said Saskatchewan is most certainly not supportive of export tariffs and will be working actively to ensure an export tariff couldn't be applied on Saskatchewan products.

00:40:40.940 So Danielle Smith taking the lead and others are following.

00:40:44.940 What's your make of this, Rachel?

00:40:46.940 I think that Danielle really went out on a limb with her approach to the trade war and Donald Trump's threat of tariffs.

00:40:55.940 And she was pretty roundly criticized for that.

00:40:58.940 We saw the establishment media really going after her.

00:41:01.940 She was accused of being a traitor, really horrible things.

00:41:04.940 And I think that it's paying off for her, not only on the home front, but also nationally.

00:41:09.940 So let's start by talking about Alberta first.

00:41:12.940 Certainly her approach to advocate for Alberta and Alberta's interests first is what the Albertan people want.

00:41:18.940 We elected a premier to stand up for our interests, not to stand up for Ottawa, especially at a time when there was so much friction between the province of Alberta and the federal government,

00:41:28.940 who has seemed really not to be vested in or care about our economy and to continuously attack Alberta's energy.

00:41:35.940 And the point that Danielle Smith made was we tried to expand our exports to go west or to go east.

00:41:42.940 And the rest of Canada said no.

00:41:44.940 And so we are entirely reliant on our exports to the United States for our economy and for the Alberta government to generate revenue.

00:41:51.940 And if you shut that off, it will devastate.

00:41:54.940 It will devastate the Alberta economy.

00:41:56.940 And so we have no choice but to continue having a positive trade relationship with the United States.

00:42:02.940 And I think she recognized that the relationship between Justin Trudeau and between Donald Trump had completely broken down.

00:42:08.940 And so she took matters into her own hands and she went over to the states and she began advocating for Alberta.

00:42:13.940 And initially we saw that the rest of Canada was attacking her for this.

00:42:16.940 And now we've seen sentiment shift, not only in public opinion, but also in the fact that other premiers are also following suit,

00:42:23.940 because I think they're recognizing that not only would a ban or retaliatory tariffs impact them.

00:42:29.940 As you said, Alberta's energy also lights up Ontario and Quebec.

00:42:33.940 So it's not simply a matter of just turning off the pipes because it will impact the rest of Canada,

00:42:39.940 but also that her approach with Donald Trump is working and that the Americans do want collaboration with Canada.

00:42:45.940 But they're also tired of a Canadian government that really hasn't done its part,

00:42:49.940 for example, with meeting its NATO commitments, with protecting its border.

00:42:53.940 And yeah, I know people always say, well, there's the immigration crisis is way worse at the Mexican US border than the Canada US border.

00:42:59.940 OK, but we also have like really serious terrorists here.

00:43:03.940 We had one of India's most wanted terrorists in Canada.

00:43:07.940 The United States is paying attention to this.

00:43:08.940 They recognize that our security is abysmal and they realize how easy it is for these people to cross from Canada into the United States.

00:43:15.940 And so what America is really asking is they're saying, Canada, you haven't done your part for nine years.

00:43:20.940 It's time to do your part again.

00:43:22.940 And then we can maybe look at, you know, not implementing these tariffs.

00:43:25.940 But right now, Canada is in a very, very weak position.

00:43:28.940 And I think for the people who are criticizing Donald Trump for the economic impact that we're about to feel from the tariffs are severely misguided.

00:43:36.940 It is right that he would do the best by his country and that he would protect our national interests.

00:43:43.940 I just wish that we had a prime minister who also cared about protecting our national interests.

00:43:47.940 And there's no way that Canada is vetting when it comes to national security.

00:43:50.940 We just don't vet the way that the Americans do. 0.98

00:43:52.940 We used to and we should, but we certainly do, which is why we end up with terrorists.

00:43:56.940 And to your point, I mean, we reported this in True North, that the number of people on terror watch lists sneaking into the United States from Canada is five times more than Mexico.

00:44:08.940 So, yes, Mexico has far more people coming through the border.

00:44:11.940 But when it comes to the actual terrorists, there's actually significantly more from Canada.

00:44:16.940 Let's go back to Danielle Smith, though.

00:44:18.940 She was on with Vassie Capellos on Sunday evening, talking about how she wants to avoid a trade war.

00:44:25.940 So, you know, this is her kind of marquee position that we don't want to do a tit for tat.

00:44:29.940 It's not a good idea to have a trade war with a trading partner who's so much bigger than you, so much more powerful than you and can more easily, you know, have tariffs without without such a big notice.

00:44:44.940 So let's play this clip of Danielle on CTV question period.

00:44:49.940 I always think that you should try to avoid a fight, especially when you've got, you know, a bigger a bigger adversary that you're fighting against.

00:44:56.940 The American economy is ten times the size of Canada.

00:44:59.940 And if we get into some kind of tit for tat retaliatory tariffs, neither country is going to benefit from that.

00:45:06.940 And Canadian consumers are going to be harmed.

00:45:08.940 That's why my approach has been what can we do to avoid the fight?

00:45:11.940 That being said, I think we all know, based on previous experience, that having a proportionate response is what is normally expected when these kinds of things occur.

00:45:20.940 And so I know that the federal government is working on what that proportionate response would look like.

00:45:25.940 I hope we don't have to roll it out at all.

00:45:27.940 I hope we can avoid tariffs altogether.

00:45:30.940 And I'll just play one more clip.

00:45:32.940 This is the same interview a little later on.

00:45:34.940 She talks about how Albertans are just not going to accept an export tax on their products.

00:45:39.940 I've asked the federal government on I don't even know how many occasions over the last number of years about those extra markets and building capacity to them.

00:45:47.940 But even putting that aside for a moment, we're in the moment we're in.

00:45:50.940 I've also asked ministers in the past week if they would do the same thing that people are threatening over oil with auto exports, which would have an equally proportionate impact on Ontario.

00:45:59.940 And they said, yes, like they're not they're not making it a national unity crisis.

00:46:03.940 Aren't you?

00:46:04.940 I don't think that will happen, first of all.

00:46:08.940 And second, they're not taking it off the table.

00:46:10.940 That's the point, right?

00:46:11.940 Maybe logistically, like you say, both are not really great options, but they're not saying, no, I would never do that.

00:46:16.940 Well, I think the problem that we saw is that we were getting together as a group of premiers and the prime minister saying, let's not negotiate this in public.

00:46:25.940 And I did my part saying, let's focus on the things that we know the Americans care about national security and border security.

00:46:31.940 And everybody else went off freelancing.

00:46:33.940 And the thing they kept returning to was punishing Alberta and punishing energy.

00:46:36.940 So I just wanted to make sure that we get back to talking about the things that unite us rather than divide us.

00:46:42.940 And so Albertans are just simply not going to accept an export tax on this product.

00:46:48.940 They're not going to accept the federal government blocking the export of this vital product.

00:46:53.940 And I don't think that that demonstrates the Americans that we are a reliable trading partner, which is what we are trying to do.

00:46:59.940 Danielle Smith is just 100% right there.

00:47:02.940 She is making the points.

00:47:03.940 And she's the one that's standing up, not just for Albertans.

00:47:05.940 Yes, she is standing up for Albertans.

00:47:07.940 And I think they appreciate that.

00:47:08.940 You can let me know what you think.

00:47:09.940 But she's standing up for, I think, what's in the best interest of all Canadians by avoiding a trade war.

00:47:13.940 What do you think?

00:47:14.940 That's exactly what I've been hearing from people who are on the ground.

00:47:17.940 They're saying that Danielle Smith has been accused of being a Canadian trader.

00:47:23.940 But when she's in Washington, DC, and when she's at Mar-a-Lago, she is playing for Team Canada.

00:47:28.940 She is fighting for all of Canada when she's trying to secure a deal. 1.00

00:47:31.940 And as she has said repeatedly, and she's been the one saying this the loudest from the beginning,

00:47:35.940 let's do our best to avoid these tariffs.

00:47:38.940 And I just can't help but wonder why we haven't heard that same line from other premiers.

00:47:41.940 It's immediately been, OK, well, if you do this to us and we're going to do that to you.

00:47:46.940 Exactly as she said, it's been a tit for tat instead of understanding the Americans' concerns and saying we do not want these tariffs.

00:47:53.940 Tell us exactly what we need to do to avoid them.

00:47:55.940 We will get serious about security at the border.

00:47:57.940 We will get serious about vetting newcomers to Canada. 0.99

00:48:00.940 And we are willing to meet you where you're at to avoid these tariffs.

00:48:03.940 That has never really been the federal government's approach. 0.58

00:48:06.940 They're really just too pigheaded to look at their own mistakes, realize where they went wrong,

00:48:11.940 and certainly to make some of the changes that Donald Trump has requested. 0.95

00:48:14.940 They would be acknowledging error in their immigration policy and in their vetting policy.

00:48:19.940 And we know that Justin Trudeau and his Liberal Party, they are not willing to even own an ounce of their mistakes. 0.62

00:48:25.940 They are so pigheaded when it comes to making changes that would benefit Canadians, 0.99

00:48:30.940 because it might mean an acknowledgement of wrongdoing on their part. 0.89

00:48:33.940 And I believe that is a big part of the reason why we're seeing them proceed in the manner that they have,

00:48:37.940 because they are not willing to change their policy because it would be acknowledging wrongdoing.

00:48:42.940 That's so true.

00:48:43.940 And, you know, at this point, if they were to do an about face on the major issues that Trump cares about,

00:48:47.940 like immigration, national security and drugs, I mean, those are like Justin Trudeau's legacy there.

00:48:52.940 Right. So it would be basically be at a mission that his entire time as prime minister has been an absolute disaster,

00:48:58.940 which, of course, it has.

00:48:59.940 I want to show you one more clip of our friend Danielle Smith there,

00:49:01.940 who is down on American television talking to News Nation's Laura Ingalls.

00:49:05.940 So this accusation that somehow Smith is selling out Canada.

00:49:08.940 She puts that to risk, saying that best friends should never move in together.

00:49:13.940 So really just taking the idea of a merger right off the table. Let's play that clip.

00:49:16.940 Do you think that Trump should acquire Greenland and Canada?

00:49:21.940 I think we want to continue to be best friends with the United States.

00:49:26.940 There's a phrase that best friends shouldn't move in together.

00:49:28.940 We have a very strong long term relationship with the United States.

00:49:32.940 It's been terror free for much of it in the last number of decades.

00:49:35.940 We know that we support the Americans and their aspiration for energy dominance, which is connected to national security.

00:49:42.940 Part of the reason why the Americans have been able to export so much oil internationally to achieve their targets and achieve the support of their allies is because Canada backfills.

00:49:54.940 We have a heavy oil that goes into U.S. refineries to keep prices low for American consumers.

00:49:59.940 And then that allows the Americans to export their product around the world.

00:50:03.940 You make the same case on all the critical minerals.

00:50:05.940 I mean, we're watching as China is trying to cross to cut off the critical mineral supply chain to the United States for germanium and gallium and antimony.

00:50:13.940 We've got all of that in Canada. We've got uranium, which we think would be a great partner for the United States in providing that security.

00:50:20.940 So I think we've got a partnership that works and we want to maintain that.

00:50:23.940 Great response there. But I want to ask you, Rachel, I've been talking about this quite a bit on my podcast.

00:50:29.940 What is the response that you're hearing from folks in Alberta when it comes to this idea of a merger?

00:50:33.940 Because I remember we did an event at True North Nation.

00:50:36.940 Well, we do it every year, but I was there two years ago and there was a group of kind of noisy fellows with these hats on that said Alberta USA.

00:50:44.940 And they were really big on Alberta becoming the 51st state.

00:50:46.940 I think most people in the room didn't agree with them, but they certainly wanted to talk about their ideas to everyone.

00:50:52.940 I think that there's especially among young Canadians.

00:50:55.940 So your generation, I think, like 18 to 30 year olds had the highest number, like 40 percent, saying that they would potentially move to the United States if they were offered citizenship.

00:51:04.940 What's your take on the seriousness of that, whether you think that it's an offer that it would pique the interest of Albertans?

00:51:12.940 And then you can respond to what Danielle just said in that clip.

00:51:15.940 There's definitely a small but vocal minority of people here in Alberta who like the idea of Canada joining the United States or at least even Alberta joining the United States.

00:51:26.940 I did show on this. I sort of said, I don't think that this is a good idea.

00:51:30.940 And what I always go back to is I just don't really want to be under an even bigger federal government.

00:51:35.940 I think that the fact that our countries are so big and we have a federal government who has so much power over what's happening in a place so far away is one of the big problems that we see in Canada.

00:51:44.940 And I don't think that joining the United States would solve that.

00:51:47.940 And even while you might like their very effective Republican president now, there's not always going to be a Republican president in the White House.

00:51:55.940 Imagine being led by Joe Biden. I mean, it's not always going to look as good as it is until you need to think about these things in a broader context than in just a moment and a place in time.

00:52:05.940 And so while I would say that there is a small minority of people who support that idea, what I'm actually hearing even more of is the feelings of Western alienation that are growing.

00:52:15.940 There is and there will always be a separatist movement in Alberta.

00:52:19.940 And I can feel and hear that separatist movement is really growing traction right now, especially when you hear things like Ottawa saying they're going to shut off the taps or they're going to impose a export levy.

00:52:30.940 Separated separatism in Alberta has always been around.

00:52:35.940 I remember growing up and learning about, you know, the West wants in led by Preston Manning.

00:52:39.940 And what I'm hearing right now is the West wants out.

00:52:42.940 And I know that there are separatists who are organizing.

00:52:44.940 And I think that if we continue to see this trend from a federal government, that movement will only pick up steam.

00:52:49.940 Now, if we see a conservative government be elected, the separatist movement will certainly wane, but it will never go away.

00:52:55.940 And so I would say that that's the broader trend of what I'm seeing with these negotiations with America and the trade where that we're seeing is that Alberta.

00:53:02.940 A lot of Albertans are just tired of federalism and they don't trust the federal government to get the job done anymore.

00:53:08.940 I think that Danielle Smith had, you know, a pretty effective way of responding to that question with, you know, her little analogy about not moving in with a best friend. 0.77

00:53:15.940 And obviously she would be renounced as a traitor if she said that Canada or Alberta should join the U.S.

00:53:22.940 So she she handled that very well.

00:53:24.940 And as I've said, I just I don't think it's a good idea.

00:53:26.940 I'm not really interested in being guided by a bigger federal government.

00:53:30.940 And look, a lot of people say, oh, America and Canada, they're so similar.

00:53:34.940 And I mean, sure, if you compare Canada and the United States to say to a place like Japan or China, then we are quite similar.

00:53:40.940 But having spent a significant amount of time in both countries, I do believe that they are very different and that each of the country has significantly different attitudes.

00:53:47.940 And so I don't think that it would be a seamless cultural blend.

00:53:50.940 And I think that Americans and frustrated Americans and Canadians would be quite frustrated with each other, actually, and the different cultural attitudes that come with each nation state.

00:54:00.940 Well, it does depend on the region, right?

00:54:02.940 Like I grew up in Vancouver and whenever I meet someone from Seattle, like it's like they're like a long lost sibling.

00:54:08.940 Like it's like we have the same kind of ethos and values when it comes to like nature and being outside and being connected to nature.

00:54:15.940 And you're growing up in the Pacific Northwest, like commiserating over the terrible rainy weather.

00:54:19.940 Like I think that there are certain parts of the country that are quite similar.

00:54:23.940 And then other parts that are like wildly different.

00:54:25.940 Like I think the example would be like Montreal and like Dallas, Texas.

00:54:30.940 Like, you know, there's nothing a lot.

00:54:32.940 There's not a lot in common between those two places.

00:54:34.940 So I definitely see your point and probably agree with it.

00:54:38.940 OK, I want to move on.

00:54:39.940 This is the last topic we're going to cover on the show today before we move on.

00:54:42.940 I'm not sure if you saw this over the weekend.

00:54:44.940 We got a little preview of, you know, potentially the next the next prime minister or future prime minister of this country.

00:54:51.940 If, you know, things go horribly, horribly wrong.

00:54:55.940 This is Justin Trudeau, 17 year old son, Xavier Trudeau, releasing his own, I guess, a preview for his upcoming R&B album.

00:55:05.940 So he's releasing a song called Till the Night's Done.

00:55:09.940 And he put this out.

00:55:10.940 So let's play this little promo teaser that he put out online.

00:55:30.940 God help us to become prime minister one day or our children.

00:55:34.940 But I mean, maybe it's a good thing.

00:55:36.940 Maybe he's interested in music and not interested in politics like his dad and his grandpa there.

00:55:41.940 But I kind of feel sorry for him because I just know that the people online do not like Justin Trudeau, that people do not like him.

00:55:48.940 And they will take out their rage and anger on his son.

00:55:52.940 Remember that Justin Trudeau posted this on Instagram back in October of 2024.

00:55:58.940 He said that a dad's number one job is to embarrass his son.

00:56:03.940 And then he talked about how him and his son visit a runway up in the north.

00:56:08.940 I think we have a video of this just showing their embarrassing antics here. 0.97

00:56:12.940 I think Justin Trudeau is at the point in his career where everything he does will get trolled and there will be nasty nasty comments.

00:56:18.940 And you kind of feel sorry for the sun for what is going to come, I'm sure, with this.

00:56:24.940 I know that the Economic Times is already covering this.

00:56:25.940 Economic Times of India reported on the story and look at the photo that they included there.

00:56:30.940 A very, very embarrassing picture that Justin Trudeau posted wearing an oversized pink hoodie with his son wearing an undersized tight pink t-shirt.

00:56:36.940 Going to the Barbie movie last year.

00:56:43.940 Yeah, I don't know.

00:56:44.940 I don't know what else to say, Rachel.

00:56:46.940 What do you make of this?

00:56:48.940 I think that my approach to this is unique.

00:56:49.940 I haven't seen a lot of people follow suit.

00:56:50.940 But, you know, compared to Justin Trudeau, I have a tiny, tiny, tiny public profile.

00:56:51.940 But, you know, this is a very, very interesting picture.

00:56:53.940 I think it's a very big picture.

00:56:54.940 Of course, I don't know.

00:56:55.940 It's a very big picture that Justin Trudeau posted wearing an oversized pink hoodie with his son wearing an undersized tight pink t-shirt going to the Barbie movie last year.

00:57:02.940 Yeah, I don't know.

00:57:05.940 I don't know what else to say.

00:57:06.940 Rachel, what do you make of this?

00:57:08.940 I think that my approach to this is unique.

00:57:10.940 is unique. I haven't seen a lot of people follow suit, but you know, compared to Justin Jojo,

00:57:15.360 I have a tiny, tiny, tiny public profile, but you know, I still have a bit of a public profile and

00:57:21.220 so does my husband. And so in respect to that, I don't post things about my kids online because I

00:57:26.940 know that there's a lot of people who hate us, who hate our political views. And I believe that it is

00:57:31.500 my responsibility to protect my son to the best of my ability. And so for the time being, I do not

00:57:37.240 post pictures of him online. I do not tell stories about him online. I keep my information about my

00:57:43.360 son private because I want to protect him. And you know, a lot of people are very free with posting

00:57:47.880 pictures of their kids online. And if you don't have a public profile, then maybe you're safe to

00:57:51.880 do so. I'm still not totally sold on that. And so I just like to keep my private life, my private life.

00:57:57.600 And you know, at a certain point, my kids, they will be old enough to make that decision for

00:58:00.900 themselves. And I think that at times we've seen Trudeau almost set his kids up for failure with

00:58:05.100 some of the weird things he's posted about them. Like that picture of him and his son in the pink,

00:58:09.700 like you just knew that that was going to receive so much hate. And maybe Justin Trudeau is a hardened

00:58:15.240 political operative who can handle that kind of public pressure. But I don't think that any kid

00:58:19.860 should have to, you know, you're going to be inclined as a kid to go look at that picture,

00:58:24.060 to go look at the comments underneath it and see all the hateful things that people are saying on you.

00:58:28.040 And I can't imagine that that would be very healthy for a young man still developing psyche.

00:58:33.820 And you know, I guess Justin Trudeau's kid, he's old enough now that he's decided he wants to get

00:58:38.960 into music. And you know, maybe he's old enough that he can make that decision for himself. I think

00:58:43.540 to your point, you know, maybe this would have been a good time for parents to say,

00:58:46.800 why don't you just wait, you know, till I'm out of politics for a little longer, let things cool

00:58:50.660 down till I'm everyone's not talking about me so much. And then why don't you go ahead and go ahead

00:58:55.400 with your music career. But right now, it's just I'm afraid that the way that people feel about me

00:58:59.840 will really get in the way of your music career. And I just don't think we've seen a lot of good

00:59:04.200 judgment. And you know, his kid is still a kid. And I obviously am not a fan of Justin Trudeau. But

00:59:08.760 I would never say anything hurtful that someone else's children, because they are still child. And I

00:59:14.240 think that's just over the line. But you know, to the point about the music, there was a period of

00:59:18.140 my life, I know some people are going to judge me for this where I did like R&B music, I liked the type

00:59:22.640 of music that we just listened to there no longer. I'm glad to say that my tastes have matured and

00:59:26.440 developed. But you know, what we can really see in that brief, brief little bit of a music video

00:59:31.220 that was showed is it's really money that is elevating this. It's not talent. I mean, his

00:59:36.040 singing is barely above a mumble. And obviously, there's some good editing work done there. There's,

00:59:41.420 you know, some good audio tuning there to make it sound really cool and interesting. But from what

00:59:45.240 I've seen so far, you know, I doubt that he's going to have much musical prowess. But obviously,

00:59:49.980 his family has the ability to pay for this as so often with people who seek to be artists

00:59:55.980 nowadays.

00:59:56.980 Well, I completely agree with your point about not posting pictures of your

01:00:01.720 children online. I'm a big supporter and proponent of the digital modesty movement. This idea that

01:00:08.220 like my kids are not, it's not that they don't belong to me. And like, I don't I don't put their

01:00:13.080 pictures up like their their images are private into our family. And they are for our family only. And

01:00:18.840 it is a very bad idea, I think, for people to post pictures of their kids, especially we see

01:00:23.000 so many sort of young influencers or young moms that try to become famous based on sometimes 1.00

01:00:28.880 posting like super private pictures of their children, children have no say, of course, in

01:00:34.640 whether or not their their images are going to get put online. So we adhere to that digital modesty as

01:00:39.180 well. And it's such a great way to live. Because when you're obsessed with Instagram and posting the

01:00:44.660 latest thing that happens, it's like that's all you think about and it takes over. When you just decide

01:00:48.420 to like put the phone away and be present with your children, not trying to like capture pictures

01:00:53.460 of every minute, you know, it just allows you to appreciate them and enjoy them so much more. Like

01:00:58.500 I, I send pictures to like our family group chat. You know, I send around a picture of the kids in the

01:01:04.120 annual Christmas card. And that's, that's, that's about it. Because I don't think that people should

01:01:08.840 post photos of your kids. So we're in complete agreement on that one. Rachel and I do sort of feel

01:01:13.500 for Xavier. Um, I think that, uh, this is probably not going to go very well for him. A last word to

01:01:20.200 you. Yeah, no, I'm glad to hear that you're in agreement on that. I think it's considered,

01:01:25.020 you know, controversial because people love to post photos of their kids, but there's a lot of really

01:01:30.520 scary and gross things that people can do to images of your kids and ways that they can manipulate

01:01:34.760 them. So I would just encourage, you know, any parents out there to spend a little bit more time

01:01:39.540 thinking about it and don't just do something that has always been done because there's a lot of

01:01:44.260 technology has changed our society very rapidly over a short number of years. And it seems to be

01:01:49.720 only now that people are pausing and saying, Hmm, we haven't really thought about all the ethical

01:01:54.200 implications of some of the actions that we're taking that seem so normalized. And I would just

01:01:58.400 encourage everyone to do so. Great. Well, Rachel Parker, thank you so much for joining the show.

01:02:02.620 It's been so fun to have you on, uh, everyone go check out the Rachel Parker show. Uh, thanks for joining us,

01:02:06.960 Rachel. Hope to be back. Okay. All right, everyone. Thanks so much for tuning in. I'm

01:02:12.480 Candace Malcolm. This is Candace Malcolm show. Have a great day. We'll be back tomorrow with all the

01:02:15.680 news. God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - January 28, 2025

Pierre Poilievre finally gets tough on deportations

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