The Candice Malcolm Show - Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives are leading a BLUE WAVE across Canada

00:00:00.320 Conservatives are surging in the polls across the country.

00:00:03.580 Not only are Pierre Polyev's Conservatives in firm majority territory,

00:00:07.620 but even provincial Conservative parties are becoming increasingly popular.

00:00:11.760 Are we witnessing the end of woke socialist political rule in Canada?

00:00:15.320 We'll talk about it and find out.

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00:01:03.860 Okay, so we all know that the Justin Trudeau Liberals

00:01:07.000 have seen their support absolutely collapse in recent months.

00:01:10.280 Basically, ever since Pierre Polyev became leader of the opposition

00:01:13.660 and began to present a realistic and more compelling, frankly,

00:01:17.900 alternative government to that of Justin Trudeau.

00:01:20.820 Well, according to the latest polls which were just released over the weekend,

00:01:24.120 the Libs could potentially slip into third or possibly even fourth party status

00:01:28.980 in the next election whenever that may be held.

00:01:31.800 So check out the latest numbers.

00:01:33.520 This is from Abacus Polling.

00:01:35.040 This came out on March 24th.

00:01:37.000 And basically, during the period of March 16th to March 21st,

00:01:41.300 the Abacus pollsters talked to 3,500 Canadians

00:01:44.460 about who they would be voting for if an election were held today.

00:01:48.020 They found that 41% of committed voters would vote Conservative.

00:01:52.300 Liberals were down at 23, the NDP at 19.

00:01:55.460 And the Bloc Québécois notably have surged up to 33% in Quebec,

00:01:59.940 which shows a dramatic fall from the Liberals in that province.

00:02:04.140 So you can see this nifty little graphic put up by our friends over at Canada Proud.

00:02:09.040 And they project that the Conservatives would win an enormous 223 seats.

00:02:14.480 But look who would come in second.

00:02:15.740 According to this model, the Bloc would win 41 seats, only 39 for the Libs,

00:02:22.260 NDP right behind at 37.

00:02:24.200 So you could see a world where the Liberals are not the opposition party,

00:02:29.400 that the Bloc Québécois may be the opposition party.

00:02:31.840 And Jagmeet Singh is not too far behind.

00:02:34.200 So really a huge, incredible shift.

00:02:37.620 This represents, this isn't an outlier.

00:02:40.200 This represents what a lot of polls have been finding.

00:02:42.880 So if we look over at 338, which is a polling aggregator,

00:02:47.080 they aggregate polls and models of various data.

00:02:50.000 This is the latest update from March 24th.

00:02:52.600 It also shows the Conservatives at 42% nationally,

00:02:56.860 the Libs down at 25, NDP at 19.

00:03:00.560 So no matter which poll you look at, no matter which survey you see,

00:03:04.560 what we see is that Justin Trudeau and his Liberal Party continue to hit new lows.

00:03:09.160 We see that Canadians are desperately waiting for an election

00:03:11.520 so that we can tell the Trudeau Liberals exactly how we feel about them.

00:03:15.840 So with all this in the background,

00:03:17.740 cue the Liberals to come up with a scheme that personally enriches themselves,

00:03:22.080 while also potentially tries to tip the scales in the next election.

00:03:25.960 So last Wednesday, we saw the Minister of Public Safety, Dominic LeBlanc,

00:03:30.600 introduce potential changes to the Election Act.

00:03:33.280 The main thing that they talked about was potentially moving the current election date

00:03:37.440 from October 20th to October 25th.

00:03:40.500 So as you know, Canada does not have set elections.

00:03:43.640 And particularly when we're in a minority governing situation,

00:03:46.040 as we are in right now, an election could happen at any time.

00:03:49.860 Jagmeet Singh, leader of the NDP, could wake up any morning,

00:03:52.940 decide to grow a spine and decide to deliver to Canadians what they want,

00:03:56.720 which is an election.

00:03:57.780 He could trigger an election any time he wants.

00:04:00.500 But Singh instead continues to prop up the Liberals.

00:04:05.580 And as he does, there is a maximum term that this government can be in office.

00:04:10.020 There is a law that says that there must be an election on the third Monday of October

00:04:14.520 in the fourth calendar year following polling day of the last general election.

00:04:18.540 So last election, of course, was in 2021,

00:04:20.620 which means that the latest possible date for an election

00:04:23.960 would be the third Monday in October in 2025,

00:04:27.700 which is approximately 18 months from now.

00:04:30.480 So why would the Liberals want to delay that vote by one week?

00:04:33.960 Well, let's look at a recent report from True North.

00:04:37.040 This is from our website from Sunday.

00:04:39.100 Liberals eyeing new election date that coincides with MP pension qualifications.

00:04:42.840 So Dominic LeBlanc claims that rescheduling the day to a week later

00:04:46.640 is just to acknowledge the Hindu religious festival of Diwali,

00:04:49.860 saying that it is a bill designed to strengthen Canada's democracy.

00:04:54.440 Other changes, which are also worth noting,

00:04:57.240 that it will expand the days for advanced voting

00:04:59.780 and make it easier for mail-in ballots.

00:05:03.720 So, of course, nothing these politicians ever say is true.

00:05:07.300 This has nothing to do with Diwali.

00:05:08.920 It has nothing to do with strengthening our democracy.

00:05:10.820 The idea of mail-in ballots and advanced polling,

00:05:14.000 everyone knows that it does the exact opposite to strengthening our democracy.

00:05:17.780 It makes our democracy easier to meddle with.

00:05:19.940 Well, the real reason that the Libs want to push back the date by one single week 1.00

00:05:24.000 is so that more Liberal MPs will qualify for a gold-plated,

00:05:28.300 lifelong, taxpayer-funded pension.

00:05:31.180 So let's read more from this True North article.

00:05:33.400 It says,

00:05:33.580 However, the rescheduling of Election Day also carries with it a significant caveat,

00:05:39.700 which applies to certain MPs' pensions, depending on when they were voted in.

00:05:43.760 So all MPs receive a pension after six years of service,

00:05:47.260 meaning that any MP that was elected back in the 2019 election

00:05:51.420 will hit that six-year threshold if the election is held after October 20th, 2025.

00:05:58.360 Isn't that cute how that works out?

00:06:00.260 So an election date of October 27th, just seven days later,

00:06:04.420 means that millions and millions more dollars in taxpayer-funded benefits

00:06:08.200 will go to politicians.

00:06:10.620 So isn't that neat?

00:06:12.540 Isn't that wonderful how that all works out?

00:06:14.780 So let's discuss polling.

00:06:16.340 Let's discuss public opinion a little more.

00:06:18.800 I am pleased to be joined today by my guest, Hamish Marshall.

00:06:22.000 You know Hamish well.

00:06:23.000 Around here, he's a partner at One Persuades,

00:06:24.840 which is a government relations strategy firm based in Ontario.

00:06:27.820 Back in 2019, he served as the Conservative Party's national campaign manager.

00:06:32.180 In 2017, he led Andrew Scheer's winning leadership campaign.

00:06:36.520 Prior to that, he worked for Stephen Harper as his manager of strategic planning and his pollster.

00:06:42.140 And you will remember him well because during that 2021 federal election,

00:06:46.320 Hamish worked here at True North as our in-host pollster,

00:06:48.960 and we always really enjoyed his analysis and his insight into what's happening in Canada.

00:06:54.500 So Hamish, welcome to the Canada's Welcome Show. 0.99

00:06:56.140 Thanks for joining us.

00:06:56.980 Great to be here again.

00:06:58.860 So first, let's start with the polls.

00:07:01.540 Let's start with where Justin Trudeau is, where Conservative leader Pierre Polyev is.

00:07:06.280 What are your comments on these latest rounds of polls?

00:07:09.720 Well, I think I saw a desperate column by some sort of liberal recently saying,

00:07:13.620 well, we're now doing math that shows that Pierre has peaked.

00:07:16.760 And while he's doing well, he can't possibly do any better.

00:07:19.820 But I feel we saw things like that a few weeks ago, and the numbers keep going up.

00:07:23.140 And we're now consistently seeing numbers in the low 40s and really seeing the split between the NDP and Liberals,

00:07:30.700 which means that we should see very low numbers of Liberals and NDPers elected.

00:07:35.560 The really stunning thing about this isn't just the collapse of the Liberals,

00:07:38.760 which we kind of hope for and expect with what's been going on with the way they've been running the country.

00:07:45.120 But the incredible thing is actually how the NDP haven't profited.

00:07:48.680 In the past, when the Liberals are dipping into the low 20s, the NDP are usually tied with them or maybe ahead somewhere in the mid-20s.

00:07:55.200 They're picking up those votes.

00:07:56.680 We're actually seeing, which is pretty incredible, is that Polio Conservatives are gaining votes not just from the Liberals,

00:08:04.080 but also potential votes from the NDP.

00:08:06.380 There's lots of blue-collar traditional NDP voters who are taking a good, long look at the Conservatives and liking what they see.

00:08:15.200 What is it that is appealing more and more to blue-collar workers?

00:08:18.060 I mean, I think it's the directness of his message.

00:08:20.000 I think it's the authenticity.

00:08:22.100 He is projecting very much that he understands and cares about their lives.

00:08:27.160 The Liberal government has very much been focused on fancy people,

00:08:31.440 whereas Pierre's message is very, very focused on how he's going to make life better for everyday Canadians.

00:08:39.220 And you don't have to try to buy an EV and live in downtown Toronto to do well in Pierre's Canada.

00:08:47.860 So I think he's very much connecting with those voters, both in industrial places like Windsor or Thunder Bay and in places like Thunder Bay,

00:08:57.640 like Northern Ontario or Vancouver Island, where there's a whole chunk of blue-collar workers that Polio was really appealing to.

00:09:04.080 Well, not to make it too personal, but I always found it really interesting that the sort of blue-collar left would still rally around an individual like Jagmeet Singh.

00:09:11.520 I mean, it's almost like a satire when you see some of the things that Jagmeet Singh does.

00:09:17.840 I mean, I think he has a Rolex watch collection.

00:09:19.820 He drives a BMW.

00:09:21.240 His wife posts images of her on Instagram wearing like $1,000 dresses.

00:09:26.500 I think there was like someone caught a picture of him shopping in Toronto a couple of weeks ago,

00:09:30.060 and he was carrying like a Versace shopping bag.

00:09:33.620 I mean, I can't imagine how he would continue to have the support of blue-collar people.

00:09:38.140 I guess the only question I have is like, why did it take so long for them to notice that Jagmeet Singh is obviously not a champion of the working man?

00:09:46.960 He's an elitist and a champagne socialist.

00:09:50.040 I think it's partly that, you know, voting habits are just that.

00:09:54.700 They're often habits.

00:09:55.340 People sort of say, well, I'm with this party, and they generally stick with the party.

00:09:58.640 Most people generally stick with the party unless they're sort of knocked hard out of that lane.

00:10:03.520 So I think it's partly habit.

00:10:04.980 I think it's people not paying that close attention to Mr. Singh.

00:10:09.640 But I also think that conservatives had to have someone who directly appealed to those sort of voters.

00:10:15.360 And, you know, Peripauliova has gone out of his way and gone after those voters in a direct way, and it's paying off big time.

00:10:21.040 So what do you think of the latest poll that shows that perhaps Justin Trudeau wouldn't even be the leader of the opposition if there were an election held today?

00:10:29.540 What do you think will happen to the prime minister if he were to lose an election that badly?

00:10:34.820 Will he stick around in office?

00:10:36.100 Will he immediately resign?

00:10:37.240 What do you think will happen?

00:10:37.880 You know, they won't be finished counting the ballots before he resigns, if it's anything like that.

00:10:42.400 You know, Justin Trudeau is interested in being one thing, and that's being prime minister.

00:10:46.520 Well, actually, according to an interview he did a few weeks ago, and perhaps not even interested in that, he's not interested in sticking around as leader of the opposition.

00:10:54.280 He's done that.

00:10:54.880 He did that, you know, as the leader of a third party 10 years ago, and he's not going to sign up for that again.

00:11:00.180 But he'll be gone very, very, very, very, very, very quickly.

00:11:04.660 What did you think of that, by the way, that article where he said, I mean, I think that his spin doctor has tried to claim that the word he used, plot, doesn't mean boring.

00:11:13.000 From the comments in our video when we talked about it, French-speaking people said that, no, no, it doesn't just mean boring.

00:11:19.480 It means that you're bored because you believe the job is beneath you.

00:11:23.820 What do you make of all that?

00:11:25.640 I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anything sort of so tone-deaf.

00:11:31.900 I mean, how do you run again to be prime minister once you've given that impression that the job has been beneath you?

00:11:37.260 The job that can be, quote-unquote, super boring.

00:11:40.520 It's staggering.

00:11:42.260 It is, you know, it's obviously not a job for everyone, but it is a job of constant stimulus, a job we're dealing with crises every day across this huge country.

00:11:52.280 The idea that you could find that boring and still want the job, it's just mystifying.

00:11:58.080 That's exactly what I thought.

00:11:59.220 I'm like, are you even doing the job?

00:12:01.140 Like, it's so all-encompassing.

00:12:03.340 I remember Stephen Harper being, like, so incredibly busy working all the time with, like, huge files in front of his desk.

00:12:09.420 Like, I mean, if you think it's boring, it's probably because you're not doing the job.

00:12:12.820 Like, that makes me think someone else is running the government.

00:12:15.920 I don't know.

00:12:17.280 Let's talk a little bit about this idea of more mail-in ballots because, I mean, you've focused on elections pretty much your entire career.

00:12:25.760 And, you know, the details are pretty slim about these changes that are going to happen.

00:12:31.420 But when I look at what happened in the United States in 2020, what we saw is a huge, huge increase in mail-in ballots.

00:12:38.460 And it wasn't split evenly amongst the parties.

00:12:40.820 So, as we know, Biden voters were nearly twice as likely as Trump voters to vote by mail.

00:12:47.280 So, if you look at it, 46% of all voters voted by mail, which is astonishingly high.

00:12:52.680 I mean, this was peak COVID, right?

00:12:54.260 It was the fall of 2020.

00:12:56.320 But only 32% of Trump voters voted by mail-in ballots versus 58% of Biden voters.

00:13:03.300 So, obviously, the Democrat Party were a lot more effective and efficient at driving out those votes through mail-in ballots, which just leads to all kinds of questions and suspicions about who those folks were.

00:13:14.920 So, I think, from my perspective, mail-in ballots just make things less clear and less safe.

00:13:20.960 What are your thoughts on that?

00:13:22.560 Yeah, I think it depends how the system is run.

00:13:23.920 And I think the one caveat on some of those numbers is that a lot of states made themselves solely mail-in ballots in that election.

00:13:32.480 So, Oregon, for instance, which is quite a heavily Democratic state that Biden won easily, you could only vote by mail-in ballots.

00:13:38.900 That was the only option in some Democratic-leaning states was to vote by mail.

00:13:43.020 So, there's definitely a skew, and there's definitely sort of a distrust, I think, of the government systems that Trump voters had that were less likely to put their ballot in the mail and not be sure it ever ended up getting counted.

00:13:57.200 If you put it in the mail, who knows where it goes?

00:13:58.980 It was sort of the feeling.

00:14:00.960 You know, we had large numbers of mail-in ballots in various elections in Canada during COVID.

00:14:05.660 It seemed to work reasonably well, but I think we should be cautious.

00:14:11.700 I think I'm a big, big believer in people voting on Election Day with a pencil.

00:14:16.380 The system is basically entirely unhackable, and I think that's a very, very good thing.

00:14:21.620 So, look, we've had mail-in ballots in this country for a long time for people who are going to be out of town on Election Day or away for a month or sick or something.

00:14:29.900 And that's okay, but a wholesale expansion of the program for no other reason than it would seem as convenient.

00:14:36.460 I think we should just sort of keep our eyes open and make sure that the appropriate safeguards are in place.

00:14:42.140 Well, and you made an important point there.

00:14:44.100 I don't know if you meant to, but it's called Election Day.

00:14:46.120 It's supposed to be the day that we all come together to vote.

00:14:49.160 So things can happen.

00:14:50.120 Things can change at the last minute.

00:14:51.860 And with that 2020 election, I remember that, you know, a lot of people were encouraged to vote in advance,

00:14:56.900 and then some crazy scandal would happen, and the top trending thing on Google would be like,

00:15:01.820 how can I change my vote, or is it too late, can I re-vote, or something like that?

00:15:05.240 Like, because they had already mailed in their ballot like two months earlier,

00:15:08.220 and then they didn't realize maybe how cognitively declined Joe Biden was or something like that.

00:15:13.360 And they wanted to change.

00:15:14.860 I mean, interesting analysis.

00:15:17.960 But yeah, you're supposed to vote on one day.

00:15:20.060 It's supposed to be Election Day.

00:15:21.760 Yeah, I mean, in this country back in the 1800s, elections took place over a matter of weeks,

00:15:25.220 where people had different areas, different polls, and there was lots of days,

00:15:28.420 and there was lots of confusion around it, and the idea of putting everything on Election Day

00:15:32.520 in one day was actually sort of for democracy, the idea that everybody voting at the same day

00:15:37.220 is less funny games, everybody has the same information, and it's actually a fairer election.

00:15:41.940 And it's really funny when you think that we literally have rules in this country,

00:15:45.800 but when the polls can be open on Election Day, you know, there are different hours in BC and Ontario

00:15:50.780 in order to have the most amount of overlap as possible, so people, you know, can't vote in BC

00:15:55.760 when the election's already being decided back east or something like that.

00:15:59.440 You know, we've gone to this idea of having everybody voting on the same day

00:16:02.480 is enshrined in legislation.

00:16:04.120 It's something that they've taken a lot of time to take very seriously.

00:16:07.180 And yet, now they're saying, well, no, more people should vote, you know, weeks in advance.

00:16:11.660 Well, it's interesting, Hamish, because speaking of British Columbia, I mean, I grew up in BC,

00:16:14.980 and I remember, well, I remember learning about how election, there was an election,

00:16:18.720 I don't know exactly which one it was, it might have been Kretchen,

00:16:20.480 or it might have been an older Trudeau, where basically the results were in before polls closed

00:16:26.420 in BC, so nobody bothered to vote in BC, because it's like, well, the election is over,

00:16:30.440 doesn't matter what we think.

00:16:31.760 And I think that kind of helped fuel a little bit of Western alienation, certainly in BC.

00:16:36.940 But I want to talk to you about polling out in BC, because it seems like there's been a seismic

00:16:41.360 shift in polls.

00:16:42.740 I couldn't believe this when I saw it, which is that there were new polls that were out

00:16:47.140 in the field from March 18th to 19th, that showed that the NDP, which is a provincial

00:16:52.940 government, the governing party out there, still in the lead with 40%, but the second

00:16:57.300 place is no longer what used to be the BC Liberals, now called the BC United, you can see there

00:17:02.760 in like green 15%, but basically a new party that no one's ever really heard of, or at least

00:17:08.240 has never had large numbers of support.

00:17:10.660 You can see that the increase is 32, and that the party is polling at 34%.

00:17:15.100 So maybe you can provide some insight.

00:17:17.260 I know we're both originally from BC, although neither of us live there now, but what's happening

00:17:23.140 out West?

00:17:24.160 Well, you know, you make an interesting point I've never heard of.

00:17:27.720 First of all, this poll's a bit of an outlier compared to other polls that have been out

00:17:30.640 in the field that generally show BC Conservatives and BC United around the same point in the

00:17:35.580 20s.

00:17:36.840 And look, you're right, the BC Conservatives are a party that has not had a lot of profile

00:17:40.680 for a very, very long time.

00:17:42.900 They've picked up two MLAs of BC, United MLAs who have left BC United for a variety of

00:17:48.540 reasons and ended up with BC Conservatives.

00:17:50.760 But what they do have is a fantastic name.

00:17:52.860 The other thing that poll had was the provincial, sort of the federal ballot question, which

00:17:56.820 showed that the Polio Conservatives were at like 49 and a half or 50% in British Columbia, 0.63

00:18:01.260 which is staggeringly high, in which case they'd win all but three or four seats in the province,

00:18:06.220 probably.

00:18:07.920 And so what people are hearing, people, you know, don't know what BC United is.

00:18:12.720 It used to be called the BC Liberal Party, which is also probably not a great name these

00:18:15.700 days.

00:18:16.460 And BC United is still a new name.

00:18:18.640 And then they hear Conservative and they go, yeah, like I said, I like the Polioff guy.

00:18:22.640 We'll see how, maybe I like these guys provincially.

00:18:25.160 So I think they're profiting from having a really, really good name.

00:18:28.520 But they're, you know, they're a very small party that doesn't have a lot of resources.

00:18:33.280 And, you know, we'll see how that translates in the actual election.

00:18:37.160 But also this poll seems pretty out of step with most of the other polls that we've seen.

00:18:42.320 We've certainly seen polls with the BC Conservatives in second place in the last six months, but

00:18:46.580 they've been sort of at, you know, 24% and the NDP has been at 44 kind of thing.

00:18:50.780 So this part of big jump in the last few weeks, it doesn't really line up with what we're seeing

00:18:57.020 from the other pollsters.

00:18:57.800 So does it look like the NDP will win another election?

00:19:03.340 I'm not even sure when the next election is.

00:19:06.160 The election's in October.

00:19:07.560 In October.

00:19:08.620 And, you know, it's been true in BC for the better part of 100 years, which is when the

00:19:13.560 right is split, the NDP win.

00:19:15.420 So if, unless there's some sort of consolidation, the NDP is going to have a much easier go of it.

00:19:23.340 But, you know, the other thing that's happening is that, you know, the NDP is being in power for

00:19:27.920 eight years now.

00:19:30.140 They're getting pretty shopworn.

00:19:32.160 The stories that are coming out of BC in healthcare, which is supposed to be the NDP's great strength,

00:19:37.280 are just unbelievably appalling.

00:19:39.260 Just horrific stories, people being people having, spending two weeks on, in hallway medicine

00:19:45.700 in a hospital, getting, seniors getting discharged to bus stops in the middle of the night.

00:19:51.240 It's just unbelievable horror stories.

00:19:53.160 And everybody I speak to in BC has got some sort of terrible healthcare story.

00:19:57.320 So the NDP is certainly weak.

00:20:00.160 And, you know, whether it's BC United or BC Conservatives, I think BC United's got more

00:20:04.560 horsepower in terms of institutional resources, you know, can certainly do, the NDP can be

00:20:12.920 certainly damaged, but they've got a, they've got a big structural advantage right now.

00:20:17.060 Well, it's interesting because in Alberta, the party, the two parties did merge and they

00:20:20.900 became the Alberta United Party.

00:20:22.960 And here it's called the BC United Party, but they haven't, they don't seem to be very

00:20:26.480 united.

00:20:27.480 So yeah, if they hand another election victory to the NDP, I think that'll be a huge mistake

00:20:34.720 for the parties for, for not finding a way to get along.

00:20:38.960 Hamish, I wanted to ask, so I had you on in December, right before New Year's, and I asked,

00:20:43.800 will there be an election 2024?

00:20:45.740 You said no.

00:20:46.640 And I think that you, you left a lot of the viewers and myself included a little bit dismayed

00:20:52.320 by that answer, because I think we all just want an election.

00:20:54.520 We want to, we want to see Pierre Pauly have an action.

00:20:57.800 So, you know, the, the, the stories that I talked about off the top of the show are all

00:21:01.720 about potentially 18 months until an election, no election anytime soon.

00:21:06.920 Final question.

00:21:07.900 Do you still hold up that same prediction or that same idea that we're not going to have

00:21:11.340 an election until the very last minute?

00:21:13.760 Unfortunately, I mean, the liberals might be very bad at running the country, but they're

00:21:18.220 not suicidal.

00:21:18.960 And there's no universe where Justin Trudeau, when he's 20 points behind, is going to call

00:21:24.040 an election.

00:21:24.900 So I think we're going to have an election in the fall of 2025.

00:21:28.360 Well, what about Jagmeet Singh, though?

00:21:29.540 We were looking it up and apparently his pension vests or whatever you want to call it, his

00:21:33.400 full pension kicks in, in February of 2025.

00:21:37.060 So I figure, hey, anytime after that, maybe the guy will be willing to grow a spine and

00:21:40.680 call an election.

00:21:41.260 What do you think from the NDP?

00:21:42.380 Look, I think the most likely scenario is that in about a year from now, the NDP is

00:21:47.940 going to want to try to separate themselves from the liberals in order to say they actually

00:21:51.360 weren't doing what we all know they did, which is prop up the liberals all this time.

00:21:56.700 And they are going to manufacture some sort of left wing demand.

00:22:00.320 I don't know what, where they will say, you know, we demand X or Y.

00:22:05.800 And unless the liberals give it to us, we're going to withdraw from the agreement in advance

00:22:11.660 of the budget in the spring of 2025.

00:22:15.060 So maybe the election will be a year, there'll be some sort of manufacturing crisis about a

00:22:18.100 year from now.

00:22:19.220 And in the budget itself or in the fallout from it, there will be some sort of vote that

00:22:26.960 the NDP would vote against the liberals and cause an election.

00:22:29.860 But everything we've seen from the NDP for the last decade is that they're actually not

00:22:35.600 very confident in coming up with strategies that help themselves.

00:22:38.400 So I don't expect them to implement something like that.

00:22:41.720 So I still think all things being equal, the fall of 2025 is the most likely time.

00:22:46.860 Well, I'm disappointed to hear that, although I think you're completely correct that they're

00:22:49.420 not very good at coming up with these.

00:22:51.180 I mean, that was what pharma care was supposed to be.

00:22:52.760 That's what I think what this whole Gaza resolution was supposed to be about.

00:22:55.620 But NDP don't seem very good at even following out their own, whatever they're trying to

00:23:00.220 do right now.

00:23:00.680 Well, Hamish Marshall, thanks as always for the wonderful insights.

00:23:04.280 It's Hamish Marshall from One Persuades, Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

The Candice Malcolm Show - March 26, 2024

Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives are leading a BLUE WAVE across Canada

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