The Candice Malcolm Show - Poilievre wants LIFE SENTENCES for big drug dealers (with Brian Lilley)

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show, another special live edition of

00:00:16.400 The Candice Malcolm Show. We just have so much news to cover. It's unbelievable these days. It's

00:00:20.440 like every half an hour, there's like a brand new big breaking news story. So we're going to do our

00:00:25.380 best to cover it all. We're going to talk about Polyev. We're going to talk about fentanyl. We'll

00:00:30.400 talk about tariffs. We're going to get into Justin Trudeau's latest announcement, which is that he's

00:00:34.700 setting up a Canada-U.S. economic summit. No, not parliament, not resuming parliament, not giving us

00:00:41.040 an election and let us actually select who's going to represent us. He's just going to hand select a

00:00:46.440 few elites, and they're going to sit and talk about what we should do here. Unbelievable. We'll

00:00:50.480 hopefully later in the show get to Trump, what he's said about Gaza and what's happening down there.

00:00:56.900 And we will talk about the Ontario election. I'm very pleased today to be joined for the whole show

00:01:02.080 by one of my favorite journalists in Canada, talking about Brian Lilly. He's a journalist,

00:01:06.400 author, and broadcaster. He is, actually yesterday we had Chris Sims on, and she was working with me

00:01:14.540 back in the Sun News days. Brian is sort of like the original Sun News host, and he's a tremendous

00:01:20.340 journalist. So Brian, thank you so much for joining us today. Oh, thank you. You know,

00:01:25.040 someone else was just telling me about chatting with Chris Sims, and I said she was actually an

00:01:30.440 intern with me in radio in CFRA back in Ottawa. So long connections with you and Chris. Great to

00:01:37.180 see you again. Great to join you. Yeah, it's great. It's so fun to have you on the show. And so I think

00:01:42.460 the main story that we're going to talk about today, Brian, is Pierre Polyev's recent announcement. So

00:01:48.260 he put this out this morning, he's going to be going live later in the day at 1230 p.m. Eastern

00:01:53.380 time. So we will keep an eye on that. But for now, we'll tell you that Pierre Polyev released a video

00:01:58.940 this morning saying that if elected as prime minister, he would impose life sentences for

00:02:04.920 fentanyl kingpins. So let's play a bit of that video. He drives home this point that making and

00:02:11.740 selling fentanyl is mass murder, and that our laws and our criminal justice system should treat

00:02:16.960 it that way. So let's play this clip.

00:02:21.080 Call mass fentanyl trafficking what it is. Mass murder. Selling 40 milligrams of this poison is

00:02:27.400 enough to kill 20 people. It's like spraying bullets into a crowd. You might not know who you 0.65

00:02:33.220 were killing, but statistically, it's certain that someone will die. That's why I'm announcing today,

00:02:38.940 as part of my Canada First plan, that common sense conservatives will bring in mandatory prison

00:02:44.640 sentences, including life sentences for anyone caught trafficking, producing or exporting over

00:02:51.080 40 milligrams of fentanyl and 15 years for traffickers caught with between 20 milligrams and 40 milligrams.

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00:03:30.660 So, Brian, what do you think of Pierre's announcement today?

00:03:34.840 I think it's fantastic. And part of the announcement is also repealing the liberal law Bill C-5. And I was

00:03:42.740 just looking up on my phone. You know, Bill C-5 goes hand in hand with what's been happening because

00:03:49.980 we've reduced our mandatory minimum sentences on drug laws that would affect how these drug kingpins are 0.88

00:03:58.740 treated. But also, the guys running fentanyl are responsible for the increase in gun crime that we

00:04:07.560 see. So many of our issues, well beyond and long before Donald Trump raised fentanyl at the Canadian

00:04:13.520 border, and we've still got the Globe and Mail out there saying, oh, no, no, we're not a problem. Look at

00:04:18.540 our front page. We're not a problem. Fentanyl is a problem in Canada. We should be dealing with this.

00:04:24.680 And the only person that's been talking about this federally is Pierre Paliap. And he's been

00:04:30.280 talking about it for some time. He's put out videos about this before. He's talked about the opioid

00:04:34.820 problem in our cities. And you can think that this is just a problem in Vancouver's downtown east side.

00:04:42.400 You can think it's just a problem in Toronto. No, small and medium-sized cities are devastated.

00:04:48.780 Belleville here in Ontario. Lethbridge. I mean, look, I haven't looked at the stats since Premier

00:04:55.180 Daniel Smith did, and her former chief of staff, Marshall Smith, did the big reboot of how Alberta

00:05:02.120 deals with drug overdoses. But Lethbridge was devastated by the opioid crisis, both fentanyl

00:05:08.400 and the dillies that the government was handing out. So, yes, we should be dealing with this,

00:05:14.360 not just for the border, but for what it's doing to Canadians. It's funny, I reposted 0.99

00:05:19.860 Pierre's video and said, this is exactly right, and it's what we should be doing. And people started

00:05:26.520 saying, well, Paliap's never talked about this before. He's been talking about it for two years.

00:05:30.260 It's like saying, oh, he's never talked about inflation before. Of course he has. So,

00:05:33.960 I think this is a smart move. The Liberals have gone down the road of soft on crime,

00:05:42.940 and that can sound like it's just a trite slogan. Bill C-5 took away mandatory minimum sentences

00:05:50.120 for gun smuggling and selling illegal guns and drug trafficking crimes. And in some cases,

00:05:56.740 the mandatory minimum only existed on your second or third conviction, Candace.

00:06:01.060 Can you believe that? Where they say, oh, you have to get rid of this because it's for youthful

00:06:06.880 indiscretion. They made a mistake. I'm sorry, you're caught smuggling guns three times? That's

00:06:11.560 not youthful indiscretion. Well, it's interesting because I listened to Paliap's full video and I

00:06:17.460 encouraged the audience to go and listen to it as well. It's about seven minutes long. And he mentioned

00:06:21.080 C-5. And I thought, hmm, which one is C-5? Because, you know, they all sound the same. And so it's

00:06:25.040 like, I couldn't remember exactly what it was. So I looked it up and I had to go back a couple of

00:06:30.140 years in reporting to see what it was. So this is how the CBC described it. It said, liberals

00:06:35.620 introduced legislation to end some mandatory minimum sentences. The bill would affect 14 criminal

00:06:41.940 code sections and six drug-related offenses. So that's the CBC there. And then the Globe and Mail

00:06:49.620 had a different way of framing it. So I'm going to read from the Globe and Mail. The headline here

00:06:54.040 says, Trudeau promises to address high rates of indigenous incarceration. So there you go.

00:06:59.920 Kind of giving it all away. This is all part of their social justice regime, Brian. Let me just

00:07:04.140 read a little bit from this article. It says, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says, the over-representation

00:07:08.460 of indigenous women in federal prisons is appalling. And the government's push to eliminate some

00:07:13.560 mandatory sentences will help address it. And so it goes on to say that half of the women in federal 0.66

00:07:19.560 prisons are indigenous, but that's only five percent. Indigenous women only make up five 1.00

00:07:23.840 percent of the population. And so somehow it was because of indigenous women. I don't understand,

00:07:32.420 you know, that the specific bill said it would repeal 20 mandatory minimum sentences, mostly for

00:07:39.180 drug and gun crime. So somehow under the guise of saying, you know, there's too many indigenous women 1.00

00:07:45.580 in prison. I guess he's saying that the reason that they're in prison is because of gun and

00:07:49.460 and drug crimes. I don't know why indigenous women are getting caught with drugs and guns 1.00

00:07:53.960 unless they're actually. Well, not on the scale that we're dealing with. Yeah. And so this is

00:07:59.840 all kind of like reverse engineering, like social Marxism, basically, that we have to have a quality

00:08:05.560 of outcome. And because the outcome of these drug laws are that women, too many indigenous women go 1.00

00:08:09.940 to jail. We have to get rid of them all. And look what's happened over the last two, three years 0.70

00:08:13.900 because of it, Brian. So Justice Minister David Lemeny brought it in. And, you know, from my

00:08:21.360 recollection of the reporting and from what you've just read, most of my colleagues writing on this

00:08:26.840 did not go past the press release because that's how the liberals framed it. Indigenous women, young 1.00

00:08:31.980 black men being caught up in the justice system. Oh, you know, they made a mistake. Again, I say to you, 1.00

00:08:39.740 if you are caught three times and convicted of smuggling or selling illegal guns or trafficking

00:08:50.900 at an industrial scale in drugs, that's not a youthful indiscretion. So yes, they wrapped it up

00:08:56.980 in social justice and sold it. And most of the media didn't go past the press release. Or if they did,

00:09:03.880 they said, oh, this is for minority and social justice. Let's go talk to activists from those

00:09:11.040 groups. They didn't sit there and go through the legislation and say, because it's very difficult,

00:09:16.100 by the way, when you get a piece of legislation like C5, it doesn't tell you in plain language

00:09:22.400 what it's taking out. It'll tell you this section is replaced by this. Well, you have to go into the

00:09:29.320 actual criminal code, look up the section and then see what they're replacing it with. And it becomes

00:09:34.160 quite shocking. And that's why I was writing at the time. This is utter insanity. This is hug a thug,

00:09:39.620 catch and release. You know, but there was a court case that knocked down some mandatory minimum

00:09:47.400 sentences, but it didn't knock down them all. So they used a combination of court case saying that

00:09:53.160 some mandatory minimums went too far. And those were some horrific decisions by the Supreme Court

00:09:58.340 that were purely political. There was one guy in Alberta, stoned out of his tree,

00:10:05.920 walking down the street with a rifle, shooting at a house with two parents and two kids inside.

00:10:12.440 And so he was charged. He was convicted. They appealed. And based on the hypothetical,

00:10:22.400 what the courts call a reasonable hypothetical, which is completely unreasonable,

00:10:26.320 and they just make it up, they said, well, this law goes too far because it could be used against

00:10:33.520 someone caught with an airsoft gun. So therefore, the entire mandatory minimum has to be thrown out.

00:10:39.760 So the liberals took that decision, wrapped it up in social justice with saying indigenous women and 0.99

00:10:47.000 black men are too overrepresented and took away common sense mandatory minimums. So that's why I think 1.00

00:10:53.660 both on the life sentences for drug kinpins and getting rid of C5, I think Paliyev is on to 1.00

00:10:59.820 something. And I think the public mood is going to be with them. And a lot of people who voted for

00:11:04.740 Justin Trudeau in the past will look at his promise and say, yeah, that makes sense. And then they'll look

00:11:09.600 at the liberals. What have they've been doing on it? Their response to the entire fentanyl crisis has been

00:11:15.580 to put more opioids into our communities through these so-called safe supply, give them hydromorphone

00:11:23.320 pills, which hasn't worked. I completely agree. I think that Canadians are done with this, right?

00:11:28.660 Like I think when Bill C5 was introduced, it was 2022, it was still sort of the zeitgeist was like

00:11:33.680 social justice and woke politicians. And it was also in the wake of the unmarked graves hoax and moral

00:11:40.500 panic that was happening around there. So I think the idea of anything to help First Nations,

00:11:45.140 Canadians said, okay, sure. Whereas, you know, things have really changed. And I think

00:11:49.500 a large part of that is Donald Trump driving the agenda, driving the narrative to say...

00:11:55.060 Well, I think it was changing in Canada on this stuff even before Trump. But, you know, he adds to it.

00:12:01.900 He adds to it, yeah. So Paliyev says that Canada has become a drug manufacturing hotspot.

00:12:06.520 Superlabs in Canada synthesize the drugs using precursor chemicals and the ingredients make

00:12:12.580 fentanyl. So the video, again, does a great job just kind of showing what happens. And to your

00:12:16.940 point, it's not happening in big, big cities. I mean, it is too, but it's also happening in

00:12:20.680 smaller places like Falkland, BC. You know, one of the things that I've noticed, Brian, is that the

00:12:26.900 legacy media has really downplayed Canada's role in fentanyl. You know, you mentioned that the front

00:12:32.760 page of the Globe and Mail there was talking about how really, you know, Canada contributes such a

00:12:37.340 small amount compared to what's happening in the United States. Here we saw CNN making the same

00:12:42.640 point. Canada makes up just 0.2% of border fentanyl seizures. Oh, Daniel Dale of the Toronto Star.

00:12:51.600 Okay, yeah. He's at CNN now, but Daniel Dale only checks one type of politician.

00:12:57.360 He does not fact check liberals. Yeah, his fact checks are nauseating. I think he fact checked

00:13:03.960 after the Trump-Harris debate and decided that Trump had lied like 200 times and Kamala Harris had

00:13:08.360 only lied once, which, you know, I was watching. I had almost the opposite. You and I have been

00:13:13.420 around politicians long enough to know they all lie. Well, it depends. Yeah, like any tiny little like

00:13:20.740 minor, you know, even Trump just kind of boasting in the way that he does, Daniel Dale would count that

00:13:24.860 as a lie. Whereas Kamala Harris like blatantly lying about the fact that there's no active

00:13:29.120 servicemen in the United States anywhere. And then that was like actively debunked by like active

00:13:34.160 servicemen sharing a video of themselves on social media. So anyway. Yeah, we've got this claim that

00:13:40.860 we're not an issue. And then trying to figure out, I know we'll get into the border stuff in a bit more,

00:13:48.440 but this relates to it. Trump's executive order on bringing in the tariffs that were supposed to hit

00:13:54.900 Tuesday, the one that he signed on Saturday. It cites a report from FinTrack, a Canadian federal

00:14:02.100 government agency. So I just want to read a quote here. It says, with respect to smuggling of illicit

00:14:06.720 drugs across our northern border, Canada's Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Center recently

00:14:12.720 published a study on laundering of proceeds of illicit synthetic opioids, which recognize Canada's

00:14:18.740 heightened domestic production of fentanyl, largely from British Columbia, and its growing footprint

00:14:23.600 within international narcotics distribution. That report was up on the FinTrack website for several

00:14:30.320 weeks. It's now down. We have our own reports saying this. And yet our national conversation since

00:14:37.480 Trump raised the issue is, oh, there's nothing to see here. We're not bad. Oh, wait, one of our banks

00:14:43.200 just paid a huge fine for laundering money in the States? Look away. Well, exactly, because it's

00:14:51.640 inconvenient to the narrative. And to your point, like, I agree that it's about more than just

00:14:58.640 fentanyl. Obviously, you know, Trump won the election on multiple flanks, right? He said that he wanted to

00:15:04.040 crack down on the border and that we were done. He was done with the invasion on the South. And it was

00:15:09.940 really, that was one of the key components of his victory. But he also has a much more protectionist

00:15:16.260 like approach to economics. And obviously, with bringing in someone like J.D. Vance as his running

00:15:21.640 mate, there is sort of talk that they're bringing in kind of like a new protectionist model where

00:15:26.560 they, you know, one person that Trump often references is the 25th American President,

00:15:34.600 William McKinley. McKinley was known for his tariffs. And Trump talks about that sort of

00:15:39.420 Yeah, he loves McKinley.

00:15:41.400 Yeah. So that's kind of made us all go back and, you know, reread the history books and try to

00:15:45.900 remember exactly what that looked like. Obviously, the world was a very different place back in the

00:15:49.620 1800s. But I wanted to get your thoughts on it. Like, do you think that this really is about

00:15:55.020 the border, drugs and secure national security? Or is this something about like a new kind of

00:16:00.680 economic populism on the right? Both. And if you listen carefully, they will tell you that.

00:16:10.120 So look, is our migrant problem crossing over from Canada into the US as big as Mexico? No.

00:16:19.560 But it's not less than 1%, which is what our government says. It is by my calculation using

00:16:26.700 the publicly available numbers from Customs Border Patrol. We are at last year, roughly 7% of

00:16:34.740 interdictions at the border. You know, we've gone up to almost 200,000 last year, 43,000 of them were

00:16:42.940 Indian nationals who were in Canada on visas. So this whole international student thing, where,

00:16:51.560 you know, we brought in what was about a million people through this program last year. You know,

00:16:58.660 a bunch of them are showing up and then just going to, we know many of them show up and then don't go

00:17:03.740 to their schools. They're just using it as backdoor immigration. But the Americans are also saying,

00:17:07.920 wait a minute, people are using your lax system as a way to come to America and then declare asylum

00:17:13.480 and try and, or try and enter the US illegally. We know about the smuggling operation south of Montreal

00:17:18.940 into Vermont, New Hampshire. All those things are there. And I was writing about this problem when

00:17:24.440 the Biden administration was still in, and they were complaining about it. So we have to take that

00:17:30.800 issue seriously. The fentanyl issue, it's mainly that we are their bankers. Again, if you read the

00:17:38.640 executive order, though, they do talk about going into the States from Canada via the mail system,

00:17:43.920 which is how China used to ship opioid fentanyl to Canada, they would use the mail. And so they've

00:17:52.220 asked that we find ways to deal with that. That's a reasonable request. So that's the 25% tariffs are

00:17:59.160 about the border. And Trump's picked to be commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick, smart man,

00:18:05.940 very successful in business. You know, and I point that out only because in the legacy media,

00:18:13.500 you've got too many people wanting to say Trump's an idiot, and he's surrounded by fools, and they 1.00

00:18:18.140 don't understand anything. None of them have successfully rebuilt a multi billion dollar business 1.00

00:18:23.140 like Lutnick has doesn't mean he's right. But he's no dummy. And so he's before the Senate

00:18:29.020 Commerce Committee last week, and he's asked about the tariffs. And I think the senators were confused

00:18:34.560 about what what the purpose of the 25% tariffs were. And he said, those are about the border.

00:18:41.700 But after that, we have a series of reports coming back April 1 on the American trade system. And

00:18:48.360 after from that, there will be other tariffs. So we need to deal with the border concerns because

00:18:54.380 we cannot afford 25% tariffs. But we could end up after all this is said and done with 10% tariffs

00:19:01.160 on some of our goods or other non tariff trade barriers put in place. Because the Americans have

00:19:07.800 a bunch of trade irritants with us. Look, we have them with them. But the problem is that

00:19:15.780 the Canadian attitude, you know, I just had a meeting with an American trade official who bureaucrat

00:19:24.240 stationed here, who was saying, you guys won't even talk. We have issues and you won't talk. And

00:19:30.700 you know, if you think about it, like a marriage, Canada in the US, it's a bit like a marriage. And

00:19:37.640 if your spouse comes to you and says, I've got a real issue with what you're doing here, 0.69

00:19:42.320 it's really bugging me. And you say, no, it's not. And that's your attitude. Every time they raise

00:19:48.200 the issue, that's going to become from a small irritant, to a big irritant, to a relationship

00:19:54.480 ender. And that's kind of where we're at. Because, you know, as I said, we will have our own irritants

00:20:02.180 with them, and we expect them to do something. But the Canadian attitude under the Trudeau government,

00:20:07.880 and this is under the Trudeau government, this is not all always the case. Stephen Harper had

00:20:12.080 a very different relationship. So did his bureaucracy and his government. Under the Trudeau

00:20:16.820 government, it's always, no, Canada's right. There's no issue here. Why are you raising this?

00:20:20.660 Which is kind of what the Trudeau government did on the whole border thing until faced with

00:20:27.200 the possibility of a, what did they say, nothing clears the mind like a hanging in the morning.

00:20:32.740 Monday, we suddenly were like, yeah, we could appoint a fentanyl czar, and we can add in extra money.

00:20:37.900 And they added a ton of things to the original December plan. That was not the same plan that was

00:20:44.580 presented in December. They added a bunch more to avoid those 25% tariffs for now. So if you read,

00:20:51.580 there's a paper by Stefan Moran, who's now on Trump's Council of Economic Advisors. He was with Hudson

00:20:59.800 Bay Capital, again, another multi-billion dollar firm, economist. They want to fundamentally transform

00:21:06.880 the American economy and the global trading system. That is their end goal. You read Robert

00:21:13.180 Lighthizer's book, No Trade is Free. That is their end goal. And in part, what they want to do,

00:21:21.080 they know that these tariffs may add some inflation, but they dispute how much. And they dispute the

00:21:28.880 whole narrative around how Smoot-Hawley Act in the 1930s prolonged the depression. And in fact,

00:21:38.500 Black Lighthizer points out that all that did was raise the tariffs from 40%, which is what they were

00:21:42.120 before, to 46%. So he said it was very small impact. They dispute the entire narrative around tariffs.

00:21:49.980 They believe tariffs are good. And one of the reasons that they believe it's good is that it

00:21:54.180 will bring back middle-class jobs to places like the small town that Lighthizer grew up on,

00:22:00.440 on the shores of Lake Erie in Ohio, where those blue-collar jobs are gone. And they really believe

00:22:07.440 that they need to bring that back in America and give people work with dignity. And if that costs them

00:22:11.400 a bit on the stock market or GDP growth, they're fine with that. And this is all laid out. They make it

00:22:18.040 very plain in their writing. I just don't think enough Canadians are paying attention to what

00:22:23.380 they're saying. And we're still stuck in this mentality of Reagan and Mulroney, and that's

00:22:31.440 where everyone is. Or even 10, 15 years ago, you've been down to CPAC. For people that don't know CPAC,

00:22:39.580 it's the big gathering of conservatives in Washington. It's not the Canadian cable show.

00:22:43.660 You would hear a very different message 10 years ago than you'll hear there now. The message that

00:22:52.440 Vance and Trump are selling now would not have been welcomed 10, 15 years ago at CPAC. Now it's

00:22:59.700 warmly embraced. I think that's right. And I think the first time around when Trump was running,

00:23:04.820 there was less of a consensus on the Republican side, I think, than there is now. Brian, I just think

00:23:10.100 the world has really changed. Obviously, since the Reagan years, you know, when a lot of this free

00:23:15.340 trade apparatus was set up, China was like an insignificant but growing economy. You know, I think

00:23:22.940 it was... In Reagan's years, we weren't worried about China. We were worried about Japan.

00:23:27.260 Right. Everything's made in Japan. Right. Yeah. And the world is just so totally changed. So it's like 1.00

00:23:32.640 you're trying to set up a free trade apparatus with an actor in China that doesn't abide by our free

00:23:38.920 trade, like free market system. And so the mistake I think that Canada's made is just putting itself in

00:23:47.000 opposition to the United States and treating them like they are the enemy. You know, what I saw over

00:23:51.060 the last week, a lot of like chest thumping and saying like, we can do it without the Americans. 0.55

00:23:56.660 It's like, well, I mean, what kind of world would that look like? I think that Canada needs to do

00:24:02.420 everything it can to get back into Trump's good books to say, you know, we're part of the same

00:24:07.620 continent. We want security for the entire hemisphere. Yes, you should change your trade

00:24:13.340 structure with China because China cheats and crack down and change your rules and impose that 0.66

00:24:18.900 tariff. But don't punish Canada when our entire economy has been set up to do back and forth across

00:24:26.200 the border. And then I think that there are some sacred cows in Canadian domestic policy like Trump

00:24:32.400 Trump's named a few of them, you know, regulations around banking, obviously airlines, things like

00:24:38.060 when it comes to dairy and the supply management quotas that Canada puts on like, we have a lot of,

00:24:44.580 you know, anti free trade barriers as well. What do you what do you make? Or what's your reaction to

00:24:49.680 that? Well, first off, the people saying that, well, we can do this without the Americans, 0.97

00:24:54.940 we don't need them. The only way that you can say that and believe that is if you are independently

00:25:00.480 wealthy, or part of the laptop class. If you make things, if you grow things, if you extract things

00:25:08.620 from the ground. No, we can't. Look, can we do a better job of diversifying our trade? Absolutely,

00:25:17.940 we can. And we should. Although Justin Trudeau announcing that he wants to kickstart talks again

00:25:23.180 with the UK on a free trade agreement, while we're in the middle of dealing with this is probably just

00:25:28.420 going to annoy the Americans. So not bright. But we should do that. Even if we do that, though,

00:25:33.700 and we take advantage of the what 15 free trade agreements that Stephen Harper signed specifically

00:25:38.800 for this purpose that no one's taken advantage of. Even if we do that, the United States is still

00:25:46.120 going to be our biggest trading partner. So yeah, we need to be able to work with them. And they don't

00:25:53.180 want us to, I mean, sure, Trump keeps talking about us being the 51st state. But really, what they want,

00:25:59.300 Candace, is they want a reliable partner. And whether, you know, sure, Trump hates Trudeau,

00:26:07.780 and doesn't see Canada as a reliable partner. Guess who else didn't see Canada as a reliable partner?

00:26:14.460 Joseph R. Biden, Barack Obama. This has been a problem for a long time now. So we have to start

00:26:25.060 aligning ourselves better. You know, do we want to be with China? Or do we want to be with the US?

00:26:31.280 That's kind of the choice right now. Panama decided they were going to be with China,

00:26:35.800 and that caught Trump's ire. And when we were renegotiating NAFTA during Trump one,

00:26:43.960 Justin Trudeau's decision to go in the middle of those renegotiations to try and get a free trade

00:26:48.400 deal with China completely irritated the White House. Everybody in the Trump administration was

00:26:54.320 furious. Why would we do that? It makes zero sense. But these guys, again, don't get that the

00:27:01.320 world has changed. They're still dealing with a mindset that no longer exists. I remember when

00:27:08.880 there was a bipartisan consensus in Washington that trade and opening up to China was good.

00:27:16.380 When I started interviewing Peter Navarro when his book Death by China came out,

00:27:22.040 that was still the consensus. Navarro won the day on China. We'll see how he does in the second

00:27:29.640 edition of the Trump administration. But he won the day. The bipartisan consensus is that China is a bad

00:27:34.640 actor, as you said, that we need to alter the trading system because China doesn't play fair. They

00:27:43.520 take advantage of it. They sell to us. We can't sell to them. You go to China to start a company. You 0.86

00:27:48.380 have to allow them to be an equity partner in it. And often they just steal the company away from you

00:27:55.660 in the end. So get out of this mindset that we have been in and look at the way the world is now.

00:28:04.460 And we benefit from being under the American military protection umbrella. But we can't just

00:28:13.780 rely on that. They will not keep paying for that if we're not a reliable partner. So we've got to

00:28:18.440 beef up our military spending, get a freshwater port or deepwater port in the Arctic, which the plans are

00:28:27.020 already there. They've been asking for it. Start defending the Arctic, start defending our borders, stop

00:28:33.200 playing footsies with China, and maybe align some of our trade policies. You mentioned dairy. When we

00:28:42.620 renegotiated NAFTA, the Americans thought they were getting more access for their Wisconsin dairy farmers. And

00:28:48.500 everyone walks out of the deal thinking that's what's happening. Canadians immediately interpret it

00:28:55.720 differently and block them. 277 million US, according to the Wisconsin dairy farmers is what they lost

00:29:02.720 out on. You start blocking that kind of trade, and you're going to annoy everyone. So the Americans had

00:29:08.300 accepted supply management. And if we keep blocking them at every turn, even when they think they've

00:29:14.640 negotiated in good faith with us, and they're willing to say, Yeah, keep your supply management,

00:29:18.720 but we'd like some access. And then we block that access. Guess what? Now they want the whole supply

00:29:24.240 management system gone. They might not be there yet. But if our dairy farmers keep pushing the way they 0.91

00:29:31.020 are, they're going to blow up the entire free trade agreement with the United States. And are we willing

00:29:36.900 to do that in order to keep mostly Quebec dairy farmers happy? I know the block Quebec was I mean,

00:29:42.520 that they would turn the entire economy into Quebec dairy farmers if they could. But that would be a

00:29:47.800 really stupid move to block the Americans so much that they say, forget it, either the whole supply 0.97

00:29:53.020 management system is gone, or we're ripping up the trade agreement. And we could end up at that point. 0.99

00:29:59.600 Well, I think that might be what it comes to Brian, I think that sometimes external pressure is exactly

00:30:04.640 what we need to clean up our own house. And another issue that's come up in all of this is just the need

00:30:09.940 for more interprovincial trade. It's been said so many times, it's kind of become a bipartisan

00:30:15.880 consensus as well. Pierre came out with that on Monday, saying that this is what we need to do.

00:30:20.940 He put out a great video. I just want to play a bit of fake news for our audience, because that's

00:30:26.140 part of what we do. The show is keep these journalists on their toes. So the CBC just can't

00:30:30.820 seem to hide their disdain and resentment towards Pierre Polyev. So I want to just show this quick clip.

00:30:36.040 This is how Janice McGregor describes Pierre Polyev and his video. Let's play that clip.

00:30:42.660 Provincial trade barriers.

00:30:53.920 Whoops, I don't know that the audio worked there. But basically, you could just see that the CBC was

00:30:59.500 absolutely dripping in their disdain, just describing Pierre Polyev as a rant on interprovincial

00:31:08.620 trade. And really, you know, that's kind of what we've come to expect, Brian, from the CBC.

00:31:14.880 I don't trust Janice McGregor to tell me the time of day if we're looking at the same clock. So

00:31:19.840 and I don't feel that way about everybody at CBC, by the way, there are some good people over there

00:31:26.500 that will do some good work. Mostly the place just has to be defunded. Thank you, Pierre, for

00:31:31.340 promising to do that and doing it quickly. But yeah, that was ridiculous the other day.

00:31:36.820 Yeah. Okay. Well, today, Justin Trudeau came out and announced something different. He said that 0.60

00:31:41.000 Canada is going to host a Canada-U.S. economic summit. It was described here by Laura Stone of

00:31:49.740 the Globe and Mail as a landmark event hosted with members of the Council on Canada-U.S.

00:31:55.260 relations to galvanize business and investment across Canada. And this is set to take place on

00:32:01.500 Friday. So this is kind of the best that Trudeau can come up with, Brian. My response to it was

00:32:07.620 basically, okay, so we can't have an election. We're not going to have elected officials leading

00:32:12.920 this negotiation. Trudeau said no to reopening Parliament. So we're not going to have Parliament

00:32:17.680 open. But here we can have a summit with a bunch of unelected, unpopular, former premiers. So

00:32:23.600 recall that this Council on Canada-U.S. relations includes people like Jean Charest, who ran for

00:32:29.380 leader against Pierre Politev and lost, former Liberal Premier of Quebec, and Rachel Notley,

00:32:34.080 who lost in her last election, former NDP Premier of Alberta. So, I mean, it seems like Trudeau is just

00:32:42.180 totally out of answers at this point. And Canada doesn't even really feel like a democracy when we're

00:32:46.960 being led and represented by people who haven't been elected.

00:32:49.880 Look, there's some good and smart people on that panel from the business side. And, you know,

00:32:56.940 even some from the labor side who get what's going on. But they're not the government. And adding

00:33:04.480 Jean Charest, who I've known a long time, and actually, I have time for Jean, but going back to

00:33:13.480 covering him when he was opposition leader in Quebec and then Premier. But he's not elected

00:33:18.700 anymore. Neither is Rachel Notley. Why do they get to have more say than our Parliament? Our

00:33:24.360 Parliament should be recalled. Chrystia Freeland says that she will recall it if she wins the Liberal

00:33:29.320 leadership. I don't know how many of your audience members that signed up and registered to vote are

00:33:35.040 going to vote for Chrystia Freeland rather than Ruby Dalla, let's say. But, you know, Freeland's not 0.99

00:33:41.900 going to win. Carney will not bring back Parliament. Trudeau will not bring back Parliament. Liberal

00:33:47.820 Party's starting to feel like a bit of a threat to democracy, aren't they? I mean, shouldn't we have

00:33:52.560 our Parliament sitting to deal with the national crisis? And yet, we won't. I have no problem with

00:33:58.620 the Prime Minister consulting a group like this to get ideas. That's fine. Get input from business. Get

00:34:06.420 input from Labour. But get input from the people's elected officials. Recall Parliament. Let the national

00:34:14.220 voice have a say. Let the people have a say. But, of course, they're just worried that if that happens,

00:34:20.480 they'll be voted out. They would rather have a Mark Carney coronation on March 9th, bring back

00:34:27.260 Parliament on March 24th. Carney cuts a deal with Jagmeet Singh, who, you know, I know he's ripped

00:34:33.580 it up. I know he said, absolutely. This time, I'm definitely going to vote down the government,

00:34:38.380 unlike the eight times I voted to keep them in power after I said I wouldn't. I think, though,

00:34:44.340 Carney will stitch together a deal with the NDP. And then, you know, I've heard it from liberals.

00:34:51.360 Some are excited at the idea that Carney could then govern until September 2026, according to the

00:34:56.360 Constitution. And by that point, Canadians get used to him being Prime Minister and reelect him.

00:35:03.880 I saw a video of you. I think you were in Queen's Park explaining that that went viral. Everybody was

00:35:10.020 just kind of I mean, to me, that's the worst case scenario. That is like the nightmare scenario,

00:35:14.140 because I already feel, Brian, that Canada. Yeah, and it could happen. It could happen. I mean,

00:35:19.000 I feel like Canada's I don't know if we're quite at rock bottom now, because I think usually when you hit 1.00

00:35:23.320 rock bottom, you have like a sobering experience and commit to change. And I don't know that we've

00:35:28.260 had that. But I think that Canada is at its weakest that I can remember, like in my adult life. I don't

00:35:34.940 I don't know if things were worse in the 70s under the first Pierre Trudeau, possibly. But when it comes

00:35:40.340 to like the economy, the cost of living, the open border immigration, and how that's sowing social

00:35:46.920 division, when it comes to the cost of housing, when it comes to crime, to drugs, all of these

00:35:53.040 issues, to me, it seems like Canada, and that's not even to speak of national unity and growing sort

00:35:59.120 of rumblings of separatism from Quebec and Alberta. I haven't I haven't seen things this bad. And the

00:36:06.420 idea that we could have an unelected, selected Prime Minister like Mark Carney, who kind of openly

00:36:13.600 boasts about being involved with the World Economic Forum, where, you know, they openly brag about

00:36:20.380 having control over our elected politicians, penetrating cabinet. To me that like, I have a

00:36:29.820 hard time imagining how Canada can can get through something like that. I wanted to talk a bit about

00:36:35.940 Mark Carney, because when the tariff situation came up, I get that he's running for leader of

00:36:40.760 the Liberal Party. But he put out a statement on tariffs. And again, maybe he was trying to sound

00:36:45.840 prime ministerial. But he wrote in it, he said, I am in regular contact with Foreign Minister

00:36:51.280 Melanie Jolie. I fully support her efforts, along with those of Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc,

00:36:57.020 Immigration Minister Mark Miller, Public Safety Minister David McGinty, as well as all their American

00:37:02.820 counterparts. And so this sort of sparked a bit of a controversy, because people were wondering,

00:37:07.040 like, in what capacity are you speaking with American delegations, and sort of giving orders

00:37:13.300 to Canadian ministers, ministers of the Crown? He's not a member of Parliament. He's not in Cabinet.

00:37:19.240 He's not the Prime Minister yet. Even Ruby Dalla, who's running for Liberal leadership,

00:37:23.880 asked the question, like, in what capacity is Mark Carney regularly communicating with all of these high

00:37:29.780 officials on national security. So, Brian, when it was Kevin O'Leary that was popping down to Mar-a-Lago

00:37:36.860 to visit with his pal, Donald Trump, you heard a lot of people on the political left and Liberals

00:37:42.120 accusing him of being unelected and playing an outsized role. The CBC even accused him of treason,

00:37:51.000 or said that he was acting in a treasonous way. How come that doesn't apply to Mark Carney?

00:37:55.800 Because he's a Liberal? That's it. That's it. Mark Carney is the ultimate insider. I mean,

00:38:05.140 the fact that he's running as an outsider is a joke. And as I have said, every time people have

00:38:11.800 asked me about Mark Carney, covered him when he was the Bank of Canada governor. He's a very nice guy.

00:38:17.660 He's a very smart guy. But remember, he was working under the guidance of Stephen Harper and Jim

00:38:26.360 Flaherty during the 2008-09 economic crash. He was governor of the Bank of Canada. They make some

00:38:32.540 independent, strong decisions, but the big economic decisions were being made by Flaherty and Harper.

00:38:40.700 But this guy who claims to be an outsider was courted by the Liberals, went down to Scott Bryson's

00:38:47.460 cottage in Nova Scotia while he was still Bank governor, as he was being courted to run for

00:38:52.380 Liberal leader then. He backed out because Justin Trudeau jumped in. And the guy has been advising the

00:39:02.180 government since 2020. He does all these videos with Liberal cabinet ministers like Jonathan Wilkinson,

00:39:09.940 who's, you know, everyone pays attention to Stephen Guibault because, you know, of how radical he is

00:39:16.500 on the environment. Jonathan Wilkinson is not different from him at all. He just looks more

00:39:22.260 respectable with his nice haircut and his glasses. He doesn't look like someone you'd see in an orange

00:39:27.380 jumpsuit on the side of the CN Tower. Mark Carney's walking along with him, thanking him for his

00:39:33.600 endorsement. Oh, we've known each other 25 years, is it now? It's like, don't claim that you're an

00:39:39.240 outsider. I, okay, I would never claim to be a political outsider. Now, am I an outsider within

00:39:46.900 the media landscape? Yes, because I write for the Toronto Sun, because I used to work in private

00:39:52.000 conservative talk radio. A lot of the media are like, oh, don't want to associate with that. But

00:39:57.980 I've been around this game for 25 odd years. I know people in every party. I know how to reach them,

00:40:05.960 able to talk to them, get inside info. That's why I'm paid to do what I do. You know, I couldn't claim

00:40:13.480 to be a complete outsider at this point. Mark Carney is more ingratiated in the system than I am.

00:40:18.680 And he's claiming he's an outsider. He's not. And that's why he gets a pass from the media. He's

00:40:24.940 friends with an awful lot of them. I'm, if I ran into Mark on the street, we would know each other to

00:40:31.260 say hi, could have a friendly conversation. We're not buddies. But he is, you know, he's actually got

00:40:36.580 friends in the media. And I think that's why he gets a pass. It's, it's, it's a little unreal.

00:40:42.820 You know, look, I've got lots of politicians who I know, who I'm friends with, connections with, 0.80

00:40:48.020 they still get kicked in the shins from me, and they know it. Mark Carney deserves to be asked

00:40:52.420 serious questions about his policies. Like he wants to bring in a carbon border adjustment,

00:40:58.800 meaning a tariff. We're in the middle of fighting the Americans on tariffs. And his big carbon tax

00:41:05.300 policy is you'll get rid of the consumer carbon tax, but put a carbon tariff on everything that

00:41:09.800 comes from a country that doesn't have a climate plan that he approves of. What, what US doesn't

00:41:15.700 have a carbon tax. What do you want to bet it would be on American goods? And what do you think the

00:41:20.040 reaction would be? You'd put the most left wing Democrat in the White House, we put a carbon 0.99

00:41:26.240 tariff on every import from America. What do you think the reaction is going to be from the

00:41:31.360 Americans? Economic war. Well, absolutely. I think Canada certainly dodged a bullet this week when

00:41:38.860 Trump decided to move away from the 25% tariff. Although to your point, it might still come and

00:41:44.020 other tariffs might still come. But it seems like Trump has, you know, he's moved on. He's, he's,

00:41:49.700 he's talking about a new deal. I'm not talking about Canada being the 51st state anymore. And now he's

00:41:54.080 talking about Gaza. So I want to talk to you, Brian, about this latest development. Trump had

00:41:58.340 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the White House yesterday. And Trump just made this

00:42:04.240 absolute bombshell announcement, saying that the US will take over Gaza and develop it, and that the

00:42:10.820 Palestinians should leave. Unbelievable. So I want to play this clip. Here is Trump talking about what 0.75

00:42:17.620 he wants to do. The US will take over the Gaza Strip. And we will do a job with it, too. We'll own it 0.99

00:42:24.580 and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on

00:42:30.220 the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an

00:42:36.880 economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the

00:42:43.920 area, do a real job, do something different, just can't go back. If you go back, it's going to end

00:42:49.940 up the same way it has for 100 years. So I guess Gaza is going to be the 51st state, not Canada. We 0.87

00:42:56.680 might we might be 52. Brian, what do you what do you make of this? Quite the bold prediction. I don't

00:43:04.440 know who's going to live there after it's developed, though. Is he going to give it to Israel? Or will the 0.67

00:43:09.440 Gazans be able to come back? I you know, if you haven't been there, it's heartbreaking to see what's

00:43:17.620 happening because Gaza could actually be the next Dubai. It's on the Mediterranean. They've got 0.93

00:43:23.920 beautiful beaches. They've got wonderful spots. Could be a tourist Mecca. Nobody wants to go there.

00:43:29.600 Why? Because for more than 20 years, they've used it as an armed camp to build up machines of war and 0.54

00:43:37.380 terrorist attacks and constantly attack Israel. They they could develop into the most amazing 0.95

00:43:43.860 locations. Donald Trump's not boasting when he says that everybody I talked to in Israel said if they

00:43:51.920 would stop fighting us, they could have the most amazing economy over there, but they won't. So

00:43:58.900 I'm not sure he could do this. It's an interesting proposal. What's he going to do to get Egypt and 0.99

00:44:08.100 Jordan to take their share of the 1.8 million Gazans that are there right now? I don't know. But it is

00:44:17.300 telling that none of the neighboring countries want this population in their country. Why? Because it is the

00:44:23.860 most radicalized place on earth. One of the stories I was told was that at the start of UNRWA, which Trump

00:44:32.500 has said he's not going to fund anymore, and neither should we, at the start of UNRWA, after the

00:44:40.260 the Arab-Israeli war in 47-48, they thought, okay, we'll do like a Marshall Plan for

00:44:49.060 the area and help the Arabs build up. And they sent in an American official who had dealt with

00:44:55.540 development in the United States very successfully. And after a while, he quit. And they said, well,

00:45:01.540 why are you quitting? And he said, because we can't resettle and rebuild with a population that doesn't

00:45:08.820 want to move on. The popular in this, this was around 19 or 1950 or early 50s. He'd spent a couple

00:45:16.660 of years trying to rebuild. And he said, they don't want to move on. They don't want to change.

00:45:22.100 They just want to go back and take over Israel and destroy it. What has changed in the 75 years since? 0.72

00:45:28.580 Nothing. And so leaving Hamas in place, though, that's not an answer. Leaving UNRWA in place? That's 0.91

00:45:38.180 not an answer. But I don't know if what Trump is suggesting here is feasible. You always have to look

00:45:44.580 and say, okay, is he serious? Or is he doing this? You know, that's my opening position.

00:45:50.180 We'll settle for something else. Yeah. I mean, maybe he's trying to entice

00:45:54.900 Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates or someone else to say, no, no, we'll step in and take over. 0.70

00:46:00.260 I mean, I agree. Like, look, it's interesting to watch because every real power and presumably

00:46:06.500 Canada will condemn this as well and say like, no, this violates international law. You cannot displace

00:46:11.140 these people. The reality is that during a war, you would move people out. A lot of the people have

00:46:16.740 already been displaced and removed. And the whole point of a refugee program is to resettle them 1.00

00:46:21.460 elsewhere. It's what we did with Syrian refugees. They left Syria because they couldn't be there 1.00

00:46:24.740 anymore. And they got resettled all over. So again, Trump said, you know, that the US will take it,

00:46:30.660 they'll own it. Trump sort of sounding like a real estate mogul there, like, you know, he's going to do

00:46:35.220 a deal. He's going to build some beautiful resorts or something along the Mediterranean beaches there.

00:46:39.460 Um, and then he said that the territory, uh, that the people should move to a territory in

00:46:44.340 countries like Jordan and Egypt. And to the point that you just made, um, these countries have

00:46:48.420 resisted because it's such a radicalized population. Like at this point, I think it's like Canada and

00:46:52.420 the UK are the only countries that have actually said that they would take even just a small number

00:46:56.020 of one other, one or two others. Uh, and I think Indonesia took them for, you know, in exchange for 0.93

00:47:02.340 some cash. Uh, but the, you know, I think Saudi Arabia could do a good job, um, in the area. They,

00:47:10.580 they are, uh, not tolerant of radical populations. Um, they are trying to, uh, you know, they know that

00:47:19.700 they had their own, uh, problem with radicalization and they're in some ways trying to reform their branch

00:47:25.380 of Islam. So they may be able to, to do something good and, and they would be able to develop it

00:47:32.020 very well. Um, but nobody wants to invest and create jobs in Gaza. Nobody wants to go and stay 1.00

00:47:38.660 at a hotel in Gaza because you'll get, you know, even before the war started, the, the risk of violence

00:47:45.620 was, was quite high. So, you know, there's the, the solution at the end of this has to be that the

00:47:51.780 terrorist group that took billions of dollars of aid money from countries like Canada, like the

00:47:57.300 United States, like Germany, and dug up water pipes that were supposed to be for the, you know,

00:48:03.940 to make sure people had clean water to drink, dug them up at, or, or just never put them in the ground

00:48:08.900 and use those water pipes to build rockets. Those people can't be left in charge. The people that

00:48:14.820 starve their own population or use them as human shields can't be left in charge. And right now, 0.70

00:48:20.340 if Israel just walks away, that's who's left in charge, unless somebody else like the U.S. or Saudi 0.88

00:48:26.900 Arabia goes in and cleans things up. Uh, but it'll take a long time to de-radicalize a population 1.00

00:48:34.740 that has been taught in schools that you and I paid for to hate Jews simply for existing. And that's

00:48:43.060 what they've been taught for far too long. It's so true. Like everyone knows the status quo is broken.

00:48:47.860 Everyone knows that we can't go back to how we were before October 7th. I, I just, I appreciate

00:48:52.020 Trump for kind of coming up with an outside the box, unique solution. And even if it's just to

00:48:55.780 get the ball rolling and try to get someone else to actually take over this land, I think that's the

00:49:00.260 right, uh, step in the right direction. Anyway, if I can just say this, it's smarter than saying,

00:49:06.340 let's have a two state solution. Who's the other state? Who's the other partner? They don't exist.

00:49:11.380 Exactly. Because you can't have terrorists, um, running, running that place anymore. I want

00:49:16.740 to talk with you about the Ontario election. I know you're there in Toronto and Queen's Park,

00:49:20.340 uh, reporting on it. We had, uh, both, uh, major candidates, uh, under a bit of fire in the last,

00:49:25.300 uh, few hours here, uh, for, uh, hot mic incidents. So, um, just to provide a bit of, uh, context for

00:49:32.740 everybody. So, uh, Doug Ford triggered an election last week. The election date here in Ontario will be

00:49:37.700 February 27th. Um, so it will come before the, um, updated 30 day or 28 day, um, pause on tariffs.

00:49:46.500 Interesting because Doug Ford kind of triggered this election saying that the ballot box question

00:49:50.340 was who could best deal with Trump and respond to Trump. And that issue has kind of been neutralized.

00:49:55.140 And so now we have an election and I'm not sure what the ballot box question is. Maybe you can answer

00:49:58.580 that for us. But first, um, you know, Doug Ford, much like Donald Trump has received union endorsements,

00:50:04.740 which is not something that's common for conservatives. So he has a whole number of

00:50:09.140 unions, including, uh, Unifor United Auto Workers endorsing him. Um, PCs are projected to win a massive

00:50:16.180 majority. Uh, they're pulling up 45% to the liberals, 27%, which may equate to PCs getting something like

00:50:22.900 99 seats. Uh, the liberals getting, um, wiped down to third place with nine seats and the NDP with 13.

00:50:29.780 Um, so, well, first of all, we'll go to Doug Ford's hot mic situation. So here he was on Tuesday,

00:50:36.100 um, where he accidentally let it split that he, uh, was happy that Donald Trump,

00:50:40.980 um, was elected. So let's play that clip.

00:50:42.740 So I don't know if, if Ford realized that he was, uh, audio, uh, audio was on there,

00:50:59.300 but you could hear him say that he was 100% happy when Donald Trump won the election,

00:51:03.140 but then he felt betrayed saying that Trump pulled out the knife and yanked it into us.

00:51:08.180 Um, later on that campaign stop, uh, he was asked if he is still supporting Donald Trump,

00:51:13.460 and he replied, absolutely not. Uh, let's play that clip. Um, thank you.

00:51:17.700 You've previously voiced support or admiration, I suppose, for, for Donald Trump. Do you can still

00:51:24.580 consider yourself a Trump supporter? Absolutely not. Can you expand?

00:51:28.580 It's just so disappointing. I'm, I'm sure there's millions of Canadians that, uh, thought,

00:51:35.380 okay, this might be a good change down in the U.S. It's been a disaster. I'd never support that guy

00:51:40.980 in my entire life. So he really, uh, had, had, had a change of heart there. Uh, I don't know if it's

00:51:46.500 controversial for him to say that he 100% supported, uh, Trump in the first place, but made it very clear

00:51:51.300 that he's, uh, very disappointed. Now, not to be outdone, the Ontario liberal leader, Bonnie Crombie,

00:51:56.340 who's a former mayor of Mississauga, uh, was also caught on more of a hot mug. This is,

00:52:00.980 I think, much more damaging, uh, to her brand. Uh, she can be heard saying that she doesn't care 0.99

00:52:06.580 about Brampton. Uh, I think we have that clip if we can play that. No, no, that's here.

00:52:14.260 No, no, no, not in Brampton. I don't go to anything in Brampton. It's not my city. I don't care.

00:52:22.580 Not my city. I don't care. I'm not clear exactly when that video, uh, audio came from. Um, but it is

00:52:28.980 making the rounds trending and circulating. Not a great thing for someone who wants to be

00:52:32.740 premier of the entire province. Uh, so Brian, what's your take on all this?

00:52:35.860 Well, in fairness to Crombie, uh, um, my understanding is she said that while she was

00:52:41.220 mayor of Mississauga. And, but you know, is that going to help her in Brampton? She was just

00:52:46.020 in Brampton campaigning on a tax cut and trying to win some seats there. I don't think that's going to

00:52:50.740 happen. Um, I don't think it'll hurt her in Mississauga, which is pretty, uh, big suburb of Toronto

00:52:57.700 and vote rich. Uh, and outside of Brampton and Mississauga, nobody's going to care because if

00:53:03.940 you don't, if you live in Ottawa, if you live in Richmond Hill, if you live in Hamilton, you don't

00:53:08.500 care about Brampton either. So it's not going to be an issue, but it will hurt her in that area.

00:53:14.100 And the liberals were hoping to make gains there. Uh, they're the only ones that can take those seats

00:53:18.580 away from the PCs this time. I don't think the NDP who won some seats in the area in 2018,

00:53:23.620 I don't think they can do it now. Uh, we'll see how the, the hot mic about Donald Trump, um,

00:53:30.740 plays out or maybe it's already played out. I mean, the news cycle is so fast these days

00:53:36.100 that people moved on. It'd be hard to say since November 25th, when Trump posted his, um,

00:53:44.260 his, uh, you know, uh, comments about 25% tariffs, which were shocking to everybody.

00:53:49.940 He had talked about 10% tariffs, never 25% aimed at Canada. Nobody's been more vocal in trying to fix

00:53:57.620 that than Doug Ford. I mean, he's, he's even done more interviews than Danielle Smith. She's probably

00:54:03.780 like right behind him. The two of them on American media constantly trying to make Canada's case.

00:54:10.260 The prime minister wasn't. So you can't say that, uh, you know, he's been out there endorsing what

00:54:15.300 Trump's doing now. So we'll have to wait and see if it hurts him in a couple of days. The opposition

00:54:21.780 parties just aren't able to, to punch through right now though. Um, and you said that the tariff

00:54:28.500 issue has kind of been neutralized. No, no. And Ford has been rightly, rightly making these comments,

00:54:36.100 whether it's tomorrow, next week, next month, six months from now, there's going to be more tariffs

00:54:41.220 and there's going to be more protectionist measures. Why would he have been in favor of

00:54:45.620 Trump over Kamala Harris though? What most people don't realize is that the Democrats were incredibly

00:54:52.900 protectionist. Uh, just like there's been a change in the bipartisan consensus on trade overall and on

00:54:58.900 China, protectionism is back in vogue in both parties. And the only difference between Trump and the

00:55:05.620 Democrats, whether it's Obama, Biden or Harris is that the Democrats will come at you smiling and

00:55:12.420 give you a big hug and tell you how wonderful you are while they slip the knife between your ribs.

00:55:17.460 And Trump comes at you with the knife up here screaming that he's coming for you. He tells you 0.94

00:55:22.900 up front, they do it sneakily. Harris was behind some legislation that most of it passed the inflation

00:55:30.580 reduction act, which there were, uh, other features in the original edition of the inflation reduction

00:55:36.020 act that would have decimated Ontario's auto industry. And the only reason that got taken out

00:55:41.540 was that Senator Joe Manson from Virginia, and I forget the name of the two Democrat senators in Georgia,

00:55:47.860 they represented auto plants that weren't unionized and they had included, uh, language that said it had

00:55:53.380 to be unionized. So some of that got watered down, but at the end of the day, the inflation reduction

00:55:58.740 act, the IRA is still the reason why all those, uh, EV battery deals, the billions and billions to

00:56:05.780 Stellantis and Volkswagen, thankfully those have not been paid out yet, by the way. Um, those were

00:56:13.060 to match what the Americans were offering in the inflation reduction act. The good news is the language

00:56:19.220 in the contract says if one, if you don't produce the batteries, you don't get the tax break. It's a tax

00:56:25.300 break, not a direct handout. And two, if the inflation reduction act is rescinded or goes away

00:56:30.740 in any way, shape or form, we're off the hook. Looks like Trump's going to get rid of that. So he may

00:56:35.380 save Canadian and Ontario taxpayers billions. Uh, but that's why he would be in favor of Trump rather

00:56:41.060 than Harris. Harris was trying to kill off the auto industry and, and, you know, doing it sneakily.

00:56:46.100 Trump is now threatening the auto industry, doing it loudly. At least you know where he's coming from.

00:56:51.060 Yeah. I don't, I don't think that, uh, many people would begrudge Ford for saying that he

00:56:55.620 supported Trump. I mean, I think that it's not 2016 anymore. Trump was actually one in a huge

00:57:00.580 majority and he's popular in large, uh, swaths of the population. Uh, Brian, let's just get to this

00:57:05.700 really quickly because, uh, I, I saw, you know, uh, Elon Musk came in, uh, had a mandate placed in the

00:57:13.780 newly created department of government efficiency. A lot of people are kind of shooting the messenger,

00:57:17.460 uh, for him, for pointing out horribly wasteful programs. Uh, one of the ones that they set their

00:57:22.100 eyes on is USAID. And I saw that you tweeted, um, that, uh, this whole fight over USAID reminds

00:57:29.700 me of Stephen Harper's fight with CETA in Ottawa foreign affairs thinks they work for themselves,

00:57:34.980 not the people in government, but CETA was worse. So Harper sent in Bev Oda to clean it up. 0.99

00:57:40.980 And oh boy. So just real quick, cause we've just got a minute or two left here. What do you think

00:57:46.020 of what Elon Musk is doing? And, uh, do you think that we can do it up here in Canada as well?

00:57:50.660 Well, Bev Oda did it for Stephen Harper, uh, years ago. And I remember asking Harper

00:57:55.140 and one of the controversies, people were always out to get Oda. I said, why do you stand by her?

00:57:59.540 And he said, because you haven't seen the good work she's done cleaning up the department. I'm guessing

00:58:04.180 some of what she cleaned up is now messy again. So yeah, we're going to need that sort of thing,

00:58:08.980 but you, you'll look at some of the things that USAID is paying for and, and you say,

00:58:14.580 why would American taxpayers be half a million dollars to spread atheism in Nepal? Don't you 0.99

00:58:20.980 think the Nepalese government might say, what are you doing? Uh, you're going to annoy people with 0.99

00:58:25.700 projects like this or paying for, uh, sex change operations in other countries. Why, what are you

00:58:32.180 doing? So, you know, I, I look, there's some good programs they do just like there's good programs

00:58:38.580 seeded us, but there's always a lot of radical left stuff in there and you got to keep your eyes

00:58:43.940 on for it. It's like in the Ontario education system. It's whack-a-mole. You, you smack one of

00:58:48.580 the crazy ideas down, it pops up somewhere else. So, um, whoever has that job when Polly have wins,

00:58:55.300 which I hope happens soon, uh, they're going to have their hands full.

00:58:57.940 Well, I, I nominated Franco from the CTF. We had him on the show yesterday and he had nothing but

00:59:02.820 examples. So I said, okay, uh, I think that you should go in there and clean house. All right,

00:59:06.900 Brian Lilly, it's such a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us. And thank you for all your

00:59:09.780 insights. Thank you. All right, folks, we're going to leave it there. Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:59:14.980 We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm

00:59:19.060 Show. Thank you. And God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - February 05, 2025

Poilievre wants LIFE SENTENCES for big drug dealers (with Brian Lilley)

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