Poilievre wants LIFE SENTENCES for big drug dealers (with Brian Lilley)
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Candice Malan is joined by journalist Brian Lylee to talk about Pierre Polyev's new plan to bring in a life sentence for anyone caught with over 40 grams of fentanyl and 15 years for those caught with between 20 and 40 grams.
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show, another special live edition of
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The Candice Malcolm Show. We just have so much news to cover. It's unbelievable these days. It's
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like every half an hour, there's like a brand new big breaking news story. So we're going to do our
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best to cover it all. We're going to talk about Polyev. We're going to talk about fentanyl. We'll
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talk about tariffs. We're going to get into Justin Trudeau's latest announcement, which is that he's
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setting up a Canada-U.S. economic summit. No, not parliament, not resuming parliament, not giving us
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an election and let us actually select who's going to represent us. He's just going to hand select a
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few elites, and they're going to sit and talk about what we should do here. Unbelievable. We'll
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hopefully later in the show get to Trump, what he's said about Gaza and what's happening down there.
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And we will talk about the Ontario election. I'm very pleased today to be joined for the whole show
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by one of my favorite journalists in Canada, talking about Brian Lilly. He's a journalist,
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author, and broadcaster. He is, actually yesterday we had Chris Sims on, and she was working with me
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back in the Sun News days. Brian is sort of like the original Sun News host, and he's a tremendous
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journalist. So Brian, thank you so much for joining us today. Oh, thank you. You know,
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someone else was just telling me about chatting with Chris Sims, and I said she was actually an
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intern with me in radio in CFRA back in Ottawa. So long connections with you and Chris. Great to
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see you again. Great to join you. Yeah, it's great. It's so fun to have you on the show. And so I think
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the main story that we're going to talk about today, Brian, is Pierre Polyev's recent announcement. So
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he put this out this morning, he's going to be going live later in the day at 1230 p.m. Eastern
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time. So we will keep an eye on that. But for now, we'll tell you that Pierre Polyev released a video
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this morning saying that if elected as prime minister, he would impose life sentences for
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fentanyl kingpins. So let's play a bit of that video. He drives home this point that making and
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selling fentanyl is mass murder, and that our laws and our criminal justice system should treat
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Call mass fentanyl trafficking what it is. Mass murder. Selling 40 milligrams of this poison is
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enough to kill 20 people. It's like spraying bullets into a crowd. You might not know who you
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were killing, but statistically, it's certain that someone will die. That's why I'm announcing today,
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as part of my Canada First plan, that common sense conservatives will bring in mandatory prison
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sentences, including life sentences for anyone caught trafficking, producing or exporting over
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40 milligrams of fentanyl and 15 years for traffickers caught with between 20 milligrams and 40 milligrams.
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So, Brian, what do you think of Pierre's announcement today?
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I think it's fantastic. And part of the announcement is also repealing the liberal law Bill C-5. And I was
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just looking up on my phone. You know, Bill C-5 goes hand in hand with what's been happening because
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we've reduced our mandatory minimum sentences on drug laws that would affect how these drug kingpins are
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treated. But also, the guys running fentanyl are responsible for the increase in gun crime that we
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see. So many of our issues, well beyond and long before Donald Trump raised fentanyl at the Canadian
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border, and we've still got the Globe and Mail out there saying, oh, no, no, we're not a problem. Look at
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our front page. We're not a problem. Fentanyl is a problem in Canada. We should be dealing with this.
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And the only person that's been talking about this federally is Pierre Paliap. And he's been
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talking about it for some time. He's put out videos about this before. He's talked about the opioid
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problem in our cities. And you can think that this is just a problem in Vancouver's downtown east side.
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You can think it's just a problem in Toronto. No, small and medium-sized cities are devastated.
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Belleville here in Ontario. Lethbridge. I mean, look, I haven't looked at the stats since Premier
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Daniel Smith did, and her former chief of staff, Marshall Smith, did the big reboot of how Alberta
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deals with drug overdoses. But Lethbridge was devastated by the opioid crisis, both fentanyl
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and the dillies that the government was handing out. So, yes, we should be dealing with this,
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not just for the border, but for what it's doing to Canadians. It's funny, I reposted
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Pierre's video and said, this is exactly right, and it's what we should be doing. And people started
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saying, well, Paliap's never talked about this before. He's been talking about it for two years.
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It's like saying, oh, he's never talked about inflation before. Of course he has. So,
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I think this is a smart move. The Liberals have gone down the road of soft on crime,
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and that can sound like it's just a trite slogan. Bill C-5 took away mandatory minimum sentences
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for gun smuggling and selling illegal guns and drug trafficking crimes. And in some cases,
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the mandatory minimum only existed on your second or third conviction, Candace.
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Can you believe that? Where they say, oh, you have to get rid of this because it's for youthful
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indiscretion. They made a mistake. I'm sorry, you're caught smuggling guns three times? That's
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not youthful indiscretion. Well, it's interesting because I listened to Paliap's full video and I
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encouraged the audience to go and listen to it as well. It's about seven minutes long. And he mentioned
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C-5. And I thought, hmm, which one is C-5? Because, you know, they all sound the same. And so it's
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like, I couldn't remember exactly what it was. So I looked it up and I had to go back a couple of
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years in reporting to see what it was. So this is how the CBC described it. It said, liberals
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introduced legislation to end some mandatory minimum sentences. The bill would affect 14 criminal
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code sections and six drug-related offenses. So that's the CBC there. And then the Globe and Mail
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had a different way of framing it. So I'm going to read from the Globe and Mail. The headline here
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says, Trudeau promises to address high rates of indigenous incarceration. So there you go.
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Kind of giving it all away. This is all part of their social justice regime, Brian. Let me just
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read a little bit from this article. It says, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says, the over-representation
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of indigenous women in federal prisons is appalling. And the government's push to eliminate some
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mandatory sentences will help address it. And so it goes on to say that half of the women in federal
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prisons are indigenous, but that's only five percent. Indigenous women only make up five
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percent of the population. And so somehow it was because of indigenous women. I don't understand,
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you know, that the specific bill said it would repeal 20 mandatory minimum sentences, mostly for
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drug and gun crime. So somehow under the guise of saying, you know, there's too many indigenous women
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in prison. I guess he's saying that the reason that they're in prison is because of gun and
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and drug crimes. I don't know why indigenous women are getting caught with drugs and guns
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unless they're actually. Well, not on the scale that we're dealing with. Yeah. And so this is
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all kind of like reverse engineering, like social Marxism, basically, that we have to have a quality
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of outcome. And because the outcome of these drug laws are that women, too many indigenous women go
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to jail. We have to get rid of them all. And look what's happened over the last two, three years
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because of it, Brian. So Justice Minister David Lemeny brought it in. And, you know, from my
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recollection of the reporting and from what you've just read, most of my colleagues writing on this
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did not go past the press release because that's how the liberals framed it. Indigenous women, young
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black men being caught up in the justice system. Oh, you know, they made a mistake. Again, I say to you,
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if you are caught three times and convicted of smuggling or selling illegal guns or trafficking
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at an industrial scale in drugs, that's not a youthful indiscretion. So yes, they wrapped it up
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in social justice and sold it. And most of the media didn't go past the press release. Or if they did,
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they said, oh, this is for minority and social justice. Let's go talk to activists from those
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groups. They didn't sit there and go through the legislation and say, because it's very difficult,
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by the way, when you get a piece of legislation like C5, it doesn't tell you in plain language
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what it's taking out. It'll tell you this section is replaced by this. Well, you have to go into the
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actual criminal code, look up the section and then see what they're replacing it with. And it becomes
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quite shocking. And that's why I was writing at the time. This is utter insanity. This is hug a thug,
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catch and release. You know, but there was a court case that knocked down some mandatory minimum
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sentences, but it didn't knock down them all. So they used a combination of court case saying that
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some mandatory minimums went too far. And those were some horrific decisions by the Supreme Court
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that were purely political. There was one guy in Alberta, stoned out of his tree,
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walking down the street with a rifle, shooting at a house with two parents and two kids inside.
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And so he was charged. He was convicted. They appealed. And based on the hypothetical,
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what the courts call a reasonable hypothetical, which is completely unreasonable,
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and they just make it up, they said, well, this law goes too far because it could be used against
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someone caught with an airsoft gun. So therefore, the entire mandatory minimum has to be thrown out.
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So the liberals took that decision, wrapped it up in social justice with saying indigenous women and
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black men are too overrepresented and took away common sense mandatory minimums. So that's why I think
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both on the life sentences for drug kinpins and getting rid of C5, I think Paliyev is on to
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something. And I think the public mood is going to be with them. And a lot of people who voted for
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Justin Trudeau in the past will look at his promise and say, yeah, that makes sense. And then they'll look
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at the liberals. What have they've been doing on it? Their response to the entire fentanyl crisis has been
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to put more opioids into our communities through these so-called safe supply, give them hydromorphone
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pills, which hasn't worked. I completely agree. I think that Canadians are done with this, right?
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Like I think when Bill C5 was introduced, it was 2022, it was still sort of the zeitgeist was like
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social justice and woke politicians. And it was also in the wake of the unmarked graves hoax and moral
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panic that was happening around there. So I think the idea of anything to help First Nations,
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Canadians said, okay, sure. Whereas, you know, things have really changed. And I think
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a large part of that is Donald Trump driving the agenda, driving the narrative to say...
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Well, I think it was changing in Canada on this stuff even before Trump. But, you know, he adds to it.
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He adds to it, yeah. So Paliyev says that Canada has become a drug manufacturing hotspot.
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Superlabs in Canada synthesize the drugs using precursor chemicals and the ingredients make
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fentanyl. So the video, again, does a great job just kind of showing what happens. And to your
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point, it's not happening in big, big cities. I mean, it is too, but it's also happening in
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smaller places like Falkland, BC. You know, one of the things that I've noticed, Brian, is that the
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legacy media has really downplayed Canada's role in fentanyl. You know, you mentioned that the front
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page of the Globe and Mail there was talking about how really, you know, Canada contributes such a
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small amount compared to what's happening in the United States. Here we saw CNN making the same
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point. Canada makes up just 0.2% of border fentanyl seizures. Oh, Daniel Dale of the Toronto Star.
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Okay, yeah. He's at CNN now, but Daniel Dale only checks one type of politician.
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He does not fact check liberals. Yeah, his fact checks are nauseating. I think he fact checked
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after the Trump-Harris debate and decided that Trump had lied like 200 times and Kamala Harris had
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only lied once, which, you know, I was watching. I had almost the opposite. You and I have been
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around politicians long enough to know they all lie. Well, it depends. Yeah, like any tiny little like
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minor, you know, even Trump just kind of boasting in the way that he does, Daniel Dale would count that
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as a lie. Whereas Kamala Harris like blatantly lying about the fact that there's no active
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servicemen in the United States anywhere. And then that was like actively debunked by like active
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servicemen sharing a video of themselves on social media. So anyway. Yeah, we've got this claim that
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we're not an issue. And then trying to figure out, I know we'll get into the border stuff in a bit more,
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but this relates to it. Trump's executive order on bringing in the tariffs that were supposed to hit
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Tuesday, the one that he signed on Saturday. It cites a report from FinTrack, a Canadian federal
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government agency. So I just want to read a quote here. It says, with respect to smuggling of illicit
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drugs across our northern border, Canada's Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Center recently
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published a study on laundering of proceeds of illicit synthetic opioids, which recognize Canada's
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heightened domestic production of fentanyl, largely from British Columbia, and its growing footprint
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within international narcotics distribution. That report was up on the FinTrack website for several
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weeks. It's now down. We have our own reports saying this. And yet our national conversation since
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Trump raised the issue is, oh, there's nothing to see here. We're not bad. Oh, wait, one of our banks
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just paid a huge fine for laundering money in the States? Look away. Well, exactly, because it's
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inconvenient to the narrative. And to your point, like, I agree that it's about more than just
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fentanyl. Obviously, you know, Trump won the election on multiple flanks, right? He said that he wanted to
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crack down on the border and that we were done. He was done with the invasion on the South. And it was
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really, that was one of the key components of his victory. But he also has a much more protectionist
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like approach to economics. And obviously, with bringing in someone like J.D. Vance as his running
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mate, there is sort of talk that they're bringing in kind of like a new protectionist model where
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they, you know, one person that Trump often references is the 25th American President,
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William McKinley. McKinley was known for his tariffs. And Trump talks about that sort of
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Yeah. So that's kind of made us all go back and, you know, reread the history books and try to
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remember exactly what that looked like. Obviously, the world was a very different place back in the
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1800s. But I wanted to get your thoughts on it. Like, do you think that this really is about
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the border, drugs and secure national security? Or is this something about like a new kind of
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economic populism on the right? Both. And if you listen carefully, they will tell you that.
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So look, is our migrant problem crossing over from Canada into the US as big as Mexico? No.
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But it's not less than 1%, which is what our government says. It is by my calculation using
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the publicly available numbers from Customs Border Patrol. We are at last year, roughly 7% of
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interdictions at the border. You know, we've gone up to almost 200,000 last year, 43,000 of them were
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Indian nationals who were in Canada on visas. So this whole international student thing, where,
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you know, we brought in what was about a million people through this program last year. You know,
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a bunch of them are showing up and then just going to, we know many of them show up and then don't go
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to their schools. They're just using it as backdoor immigration. But the Americans are also saying,
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wait a minute, people are using your lax system as a way to come to America and then declare asylum
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and try and, or try and enter the US illegally. We know about the smuggling operation south of Montreal
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into Vermont, New Hampshire. All those things are there. And I was writing about this problem when
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the Biden administration was still in, and they were complaining about it. So we have to take that
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issue seriously. The fentanyl issue, it's mainly that we are their bankers. Again, if you read the
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executive order, though, they do talk about going into the States from Canada via the mail system,
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which is how China used to ship opioid fentanyl to Canada, they would use the mail. And so they've
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asked that we find ways to deal with that. That's a reasonable request. So that's the 25% tariffs are
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about the border. And Trump's picked to be commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick, smart man,
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very successful in business. You know, and I point that out only because in the legacy media,
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you've got too many people wanting to say Trump's an idiot, and he's surrounded by fools, and they
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don't understand anything. None of them have successfully rebuilt a multi billion dollar business
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like Lutnick has doesn't mean he's right. But he's no dummy. And so he's before the Senate
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Commerce Committee last week, and he's asked about the tariffs. And I think the senators were confused
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about what what the purpose of the 25% tariffs were. And he said, those are about the border.
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But after that, we have a series of reports coming back April 1 on the American trade system. And
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after from that, there will be other tariffs. So we need to deal with the border concerns because
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we cannot afford 25% tariffs. But we could end up after all this is said and done with 10% tariffs
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on some of our goods or other non tariff trade barriers put in place. Because the Americans have
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a bunch of trade irritants with us. Look, we have them with them. But the problem is that
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the Canadian attitude, you know, I just had a meeting with an American trade official who bureaucrat
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stationed here, who was saying, you guys won't even talk. We have issues and you won't talk. And
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you know, if you think about it, like a marriage, Canada in the US, it's a bit like a marriage. And
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if your spouse comes to you and says, I've got a real issue with what you're doing here,
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it's really bugging me. And you say, no, it's not. And that's your attitude. Every time they raise
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the issue, that's going to become from a small irritant, to a big irritant, to a relationship
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ender. And that's kind of where we're at. Because, you know, as I said, we will have our own irritants
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with them, and we expect them to do something. But the Canadian attitude under the Trudeau government,
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and this is under the Trudeau government, this is not all always the case. Stephen Harper had
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a very different relationship. So did his bureaucracy and his government. Under the Trudeau
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government, it's always, no, Canada's right. There's no issue here. Why are you raising this?
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Which is kind of what the Trudeau government did on the whole border thing until faced with
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the possibility of a, what did they say, nothing clears the mind like a hanging in the morning.
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Monday, we suddenly were like, yeah, we could appoint a fentanyl czar, and we can add in extra money.
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And they added a ton of things to the original December plan. That was not the same plan that was
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presented in December. They added a bunch more to avoid those 25% tariffs for now. So if you read,
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there's a paper by Stefan Moran, who's now on Trump's Council of Economic Advisors. He was with Hudson
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Bay Capital, again, another multi-billion dollar firm, economist. They want to fundamentally transform
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the American economy and the global trading system. That is their end goal. You read Robert
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Lighthizer's book, No Trade is Free. That is their end goal. And in part, what they want to do,
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they know that these tariffs may add some inflation, but they dispute how much. And they dispute the
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whole narrative around how Smoot-Hawley Act in the 1930s prolonged the depression. And in fact,
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Black Lighthizer points out that all that did was raise the tariffs from 40%, which is what they were
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before, to 46%. So he said it was very small impact. They dispute the entire narrative around tariffs.
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They believe tariffs are good. And one of the reasons that they believe it's good is that it
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will bring back middle-class jobs to places like the small town that Lighthizer grew up on,
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on the shores of Lake Erie in Ohio, where those blue-collar jobs are gone. And they really believe
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that they need to bring that back in America and give people work with dignity. And if that costs them
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a bit on the stock market or GDP growth, they're fine with that. And this is all laid out. They make it
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very plain in their writing. I just don't think enough Canadians are paying attention to what
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they're saying. And we're still stuck in this mentality of Reagan and Mulroney, and that's
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where everyone is. Or even 10, 15 years ago, you've been down to CPAC. For people that don't know CPAC,
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it's the big gathering of conservatives in Washington. It's not the Canadian cable show.
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You would hear a very different message 10 years ago than you'll hear there now. The message that
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Vance and Trump are selling now would not have been welcomed 10, 15 years ago at CPAC. Now it's
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warmly embraced. I think that's right. And I think the first time around when Trump was running,
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there was less of a consensus on the Republican side, I think, than there is now. Brian, I just think
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the world has really changed. Obviously, since the Reagan years, you know, when a lot of this free
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trade apparatus was set up, China was like an insignificant but growing economy. You know, I think
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it was... In Reagan's years, we weren't worried about China. We were worried about Japan.
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Right. Everything's made in Japan. Right. Yeah. And the world is just so totally changed. So it's like
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you're trying to set up a free trade apparatus with an actor in China that doesn't abide by our free
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trade, like free market system. And so the mistake I think that Canada's made is just putting itself in
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opposition to the United States and treating them like they are the enemy. You know, what I saw over
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the last week, a lot of like chest thumping and saying like, we can do it without the Americans.
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It's like, well, I mean, what kind of world would that look like? I think that Canada needs to do
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everything it can to get back into Trump's good books to say, you know, we're part of the same
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continent. We want security for the entire hemisphere. Yes, you should change your trade
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structure with China because China cheats and crack down and change your rules and impose that
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tariff. But don't punish Canada when our entire economy has been set up to do back and forth across
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the border. And then I think that there are some sacred cows in Canadian domestic policy like Trump
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Trump's named a few of them, you know, regulations around banking, obviously airlines, things like
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when it comes to dairy and the supply management quotas that Canada puts on like, we have a lot of,
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you know, anti free trade barriers as well. What do you what do you make? Or what's your reaction to
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that? Well, first off, the people saying that, well, we can do this without the Americans,
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we don't need them. The only way that you can say that and believe that is if you are independently
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wealthy, or part of the laptop class. If you make things, if you grow things, if you extract things
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from the ground. No, we can't. Look, can we do a better job of diversifying our trade? Absolutely,
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we can. And we should. Although Justin Trudeau announcing that he wants to kickstart talks again
00:25:23.180
with the UK on a free trade agreement, while we're in the middle of dealing with this is probably just
00:25:28.420
going to annoy the Americans. So not bright. But we should do that. Even if we do that, though,
00:25:33.700
and we take advantage of the what 15 free trade agreements that Stephen Harper signed specifically
00:25:38.800
for this purpose that no one's taken advantage of. Even if we do that, the United States is still
00:25:46.120
going to be our biggest trading partner. So yeah, we need to be able to work with them. And they don't
00:25:53.180
want us to, I mean, sure, Trump keeps talking about us being the 51st state. But really, what they want,
00:25:59.300
Candace, is they want a reliable partner. And whether, you know, sure, Trump hates Trudeau,
00:26:07.780
and doesn't see Canada as a reliable partner. Guess who else didn't see Canada as a reliable partner?
00:26:14.460
Joseph R. Biden, Barack Obama. This has been a problem for a long time now. So we have to start
00:26:25.060
aligning ourselves better. You know, do we want to be with China? Or do we want to be with the US?
00:26:31.280
That's kind of the choice right now. Panama decided they were going to be with China,
00:26:35.800
and that caught Trump's ire. And when we were renegotiating NAFTA during Trump one,
00:26:43.960
Justin Trudeau's decision to go in the middle of those renegotiations to try and get a free trade
00:26:48.400
deal with China completely irritated the White House. Everybody in the Trump administration was
00:26:54.320
furious. Why would we do that? It makes zero sense. But these guys, again, don't get that the
00:27:01.320
world has changed. They're still dealing with a mindset that no longer exists. I remember when
00:27:08.880
there was a bipartisan consensus in Washington that trade and opening up to China was good.
00:27:16.380
When I started interviewing Peter Navarro when his book Death by China came out,
00:27:22.040
that was still the consensus. Navarro won the day on China. We'll see how he does in the second
00:27:29.640
edition of the Trump administration. But he won the day. The bipartisan consensus is that China is a bad
00:27:34.640
actor, as you said, that we need to alter the trading system because China doesn't play fair. They
00:27:43.520
take advantage of it. They sell to us. We can't sell to them. You go to China to start a company. You
00:27:48.380
have to allow them to be an equity partner in it. And often they just steal the company away from you
00:27:55.660
in the end. So get out of this mindset that we have been in and look at the way the world is now.
00:28:04.460
And we benefit from being under the American military protection umbrella. But we can't just
00:28:13.780
rely on that. They will not keep paying for that if we're not a reliable partner. So we've got to
00:28:18.440
beef up our military spending, get a freshwater port or deepwater port in the Arctic, which the plans are
00:28:27.020
already there. They've been asking for it. Start defending the Arctic, start defending our borders, stop
00:28:33.200
playing footsies with China, and maybe align some of our trade policies. You mentioned dairy. When we
00:28:42.620
renegotiated NAFTA, the Americans thought they were getting more access for their Wisconsin dairy farmers. And
00:28:48.500
everyone walks out of the deal thinking that's what's happening. Canadians immediately interpret it
00:28:55.720
differently and block them. 277 million US, according to the Wisconsin dairy farmers is what they lost
00:29:02.720
out on. You start blocking that kind of trade, and you're going to annoy everyone. So the Americans had
00:29:08.300
accepted supply management. And if we keep blocking them at every turn, even when they think they've
00:29:14.640
negotiated in good faith with us, and they're willing to say, Yeah, keep your supply management,
00:29:18.720
but we'd like some access. And then we block that access. Guess what? Now they want the whole supply
00:29:24.240
management system gone. They might not be there yet. But if our dairy farmers keep pushing the way they
00:29:31.020
are, they're going to blow up the entire free trade agreement with the United States. And are we willing
00:29:36.900
to do that in order to keep mostly Quebec dairy farmers happy? I know the block Quebec was I mean,
00:29:42.520
that they would turn the entire economy into Quebec dairy farmers if they could. But that would be a
00:29:47.800
really stupid move to block the Americans so much that they say, forget it, either the whole supply
00:29:53.020
management system is gone, or we're ripping up the trade agreement. And we could end up at that point.
00:29:59.600
Well, I think that might be what it comes to Brian, I think that sometimes external pressure is exactly
00:30:04.640
what we need to clean up our own house. And another issue that's come up in all of this is just the need
00:30:09.940
for more interprovincial trade. It's been said so many times, it's kind of become a bipartisan
00:30:15.880
consensus as well. Pierre came out with that on Monday, saying that this is what we need to do.
00:30:20.940
He put out a great video. I just want to play a bit of fake news for our audience, because that's
00:30:26.140
part of what we do. The show is keep these journalists on their toes. So the CBC just can't
00:30:30.820
seem to hide their disdain and resentment towards Pierre Polyev. So I want to just show this quick clip.
00:30:36.040
This is how Janice McGregor describes Pierre Polyev and his video. Let's play that clip.
00:30:53.920
Whoops, I don't know that the audio worked there. But basically, you could just see that the CBC was
00:30:59.500
absolutely dripping in their disdain, just describing Pierre Polyev as a rant on interprovincial
00:31:08.620
trade. And really, you know, that's kind of what we've come to expect, Brian, from the CBC.
00:31:14.880
I don't trust Janice McGregor to tell me the time of day if we're looking at the same clock. So
00:31:19.840
and I don't feel that way about everybody at CBC, by the way, there are some good people over there
00:31:26.500
that will do some good work. Mostly the place just has to be defunded. Thank you, Pierre, for
00:31:31.340
promising to do that and doing it quickly. But yeah, that was ridiculous the other day.
00:31:36.820
Yeah. Okay. Well, today, Justin Trudeau came out and announced something different. He said that
00:31:41.000
Canada is going to host a Canada-U.S. economic summit. It was described here by Laura Stone of
00:31:49.740
the Globe and Mail as a landmark event hosted with members of the Council on Canada-U.S.
00:31:55.260
relations to galvanize business and investment across Canada. And this is set to take place on
00:32:01.500
Friday. So this is kind of the best that Trudeau can come up with, Brian. My response to it was
00:32:07.620
basically, okay, so we can't have an election. We're not going to have elected officials leading
00:32:12.920
this negotiation. Trudeau said no to reopening Parliament. So we're not going to have Parliament
00:32:17.680
open. But here we can have a summit with a bunch of unelected, unpopular, former premiers. So
00:32:23.600
recall that this Council on Canada-U.S. relations includes people like Jean Charest, who ran for
00:32:29.380
leader against Pierre Politev and lost, former Liberal Premier of Quebec, and Rachel Notley,
00:32:34.080
who lost in her last election, former NDP Premier of Alberta. So, I mean, it seems like Trudeau is just
00:32:42.180
totally out of answers at this point. And Canada doesn't even really feel like a democracy when we're
00:32:46.960
being led and represented by people who haven't been elected.
00:32:49.880
Look, there's some good and smart people on that panel from the business side. And, you know,
00:32:56.940
even some from the labor side who get what's going on. But they're not the government. And adding
00:33:04.480
Jean Charest, who I've known a long time, and actually, I have time for Jean, but going back to
00:33:13.480
covering him when he was opposition leader in Quebec and then Premier. But he's not elected
00:33:18.700
anymore. Neither is Rachel Notley. Why do they get to have more say than our Parliament? Our
00:33:24.360
Parliament should be recalled. Chrystia Freeland says that she will recall it if she wins the Liberal
00:33:29.320
leadership. I don't know how many of your audience members that signed up and registered to vote are
00:33:35.040
going to vote for Chrystia Freeland rather than Ruby Dalla, let's say. But, you know, Freeland's not
00:33:41.900
going to win. Carney will not bring back Parliament. Trudeau will not bring back Parliament. Liberal
00:33:47.820
Party's starting to feel like a bit of a threat to democracy, aren't they? I mean, shouldn't we have
00:33:52.560
our Parliament sitting to deal with the national crisis? And yet, we won't. I have no problem with
00:33:58.620
the Prime Minister consulting a group like this to get ideas. That's fine. Get input from business. Get
00:34:06.420
input from Labour. But get input from the people's elected officials. Recall Parliament. Let the national
00:34:14.220
voice have a say. Let the people have a say. But, of course, they're just worried that if that happens,
00:34:20.480
they'll be voted out. They would rather have a Mark Carney coronation on March 9th, bring back
00:34:27.260
Parliament on March 24th. Carney cuts a deal with Jagmeet Singh, who, you know, I know he's ripped
00:34:33.580
it up. I know he said, absolutely. This time, I'm definitely going to vote down the government,
00:34:38.380
unlike the eight times I voted to keep them in power after I said I wouldn't. I think, though,
00:34:44.340
Carney will stitch together a deal with the NDP. And then, you know, I've heard it from liberals.
00:34:51.360
Some are excited at the idea that Carney could then govern until September 2026, according to the
00:34:56.360
Constitution. And by that point, Canadians get used to him being Prime Minister and reelect him.
00:35:03.880
I saw a video of you. I think you were in Queen's Park explaining that that went viral. Everybody was
00:35:10.020
just kind of I mean, to me, that's the worst case scenario. That is like the nightmare scenario,
00:35:14.140
because I already feel, Brian, that Canada. Yeah, and it could happen. It could happen. I mean,
00:35:19.000
I feel like Canada's I don't know if we're quite at rock bottom now, because I think usually when you hit
00:35:23.320
rock bottom, you have like a sobering experience and commit to change. And I don't know that we've
00:35:28.260
had that. But I think that Canada is at its weakest that I can remember, like in my adult life. I don't
00:35:34.940
I don't know if things were worse in the 70s under the first Pierre Trudeau, possibly. But when it comes
00:35:40.340
to like the economy, the cost of living, the open border immigration, and how that's sowing social
00:35:46.920
division, when it comes to the cost of housing, when it comes to crime, to drugs, all of these
00:35:53.040
issues, to me, it seems like Canada, and that's not even to speak of national unity and growing sort
00:35:59.120
of rumblings of separatism from Quebec and Alberta. I haven't I haven't seen things this bad. And the
00:36:06.420
idea that we could have an unelected, selected Prime Minister like Mark Carney, who kind of openly
00:36:13.600
boasts about being involved with the World Economic Forum, where, you know, they openly brag about
00:36:20.380
having control over our elected politicians, penetrating cabinet. To me that like, I have a
00:36:29.820
hard time imagining how Canada can can get through something like that. I wanted to talk a bit about
00:36:35.940
Mark Carney, because when the tariff situation came up, I get that he's running for leader of
00:36:40.760
the Liberal Party. But he put out a statement on tariffs. And again, maybe he was trying to sound
00:36:45.840
prime ministerial. But he wrote in it, he said, I am in regular contact with Foreign Minister
00:36:51.280
Melanie Jolie. I fully support her efforts, along with those of Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc,
00:36:57.020
Immigration Minister Mark Miller, Public Safety Minister David McGinty, as well as all their American
00:37:02.820
counterparts. And so this sort of sparked a bit of a controversy, because people were wondering,
00:37:07.040
like, in what capacity are you speaking with American delegations, and sort of giving orders
00:37:13.300
to Canadian ministers, ministers of the Crown? He's not a member of Parliament. He's not in Cabinet.
00:37:19.240
He's not the Prime Minister yet. Even Ruby Dalla, who's running for Liberal leadership,
00:37:23.880
asked the question, like, in what capacity is Mark Carney regularly communicating with all of these high
00:37:29.780
officials on national security. So, Brian, when it was Kevin O'Leary that was popping down to Mar-a-Lago
00:37:36.860
to visit with his pal, Donald Trump, you heard a lot of people on the political left and Liberals
00:37:42.120
accusing him of being unelected and playing an outsized role. The CBC even accused him of treason,
00:37:51.000
or said that he was acting in a treasonous way. How come that doesn't apply to Mark Carney?
00:37:55.800
Because he's a Liberal? That's it. That's it. Mark Carney is the ultimate insider. I mean,
00:38:05.140
the fact that he's running as an outsider is a joke. And as I have said, every time people have
00:38:11.800
asked me about Mark Carney, covered him when he was the Bank of Canada governor. He's a very nice guy.
00:38:17.660
He's a very smart guy. But remember, he was working under the guidance of Stephen Harper and Jim
00:38:26.360
Flaherty during the 2008-09 economic crash. He was governor of the Bank of Canada. They make some
00:38:32.540
independent, strong decisions, but the big economic decisions were being made by Flaherty and Harper.
00:38:40.700
But this guy who claims to be an outsider was courted by the Liberals, went down to Scott Bryson's
00:38:47.460
cottage in Nova Scotia while he was still Bank governor, as he was being courted to run for
00:38:52.380
Liberal leader then. He backed out because Justin Trudeau jumped in. And the guy has been advising the
00:39:02.180
government since 2020. He does all these videos with Liberal cabinet ministers like Jonathan Wilkinson,
00:39:09.940
who's, you know, everyone pays attention to Stephen Guibault because, you know, of how radical he is
00:39:16.500
on the environment. Jonathan Wilkinson is not different from him at all. He just looks more
00:39:22.260
respectable with his nice haircut and his glasses. He doesn't look like someone you'd see in an orange
00:39:27.380
jumpsuit on the side of the CN Tower. Mark Carney's walking along with him, thanking him for his
00:39:33.600
endorsement. Oh, we've known each other 25 years, is it now? It's like, don't claim that you're an
00:39:39.240
outsider. I, okay, I would never claim to be a political outsider. Now, am I an outsider within
00:39:46.900
the media landscape? Yes, because I write for the Toronto Sun, because I used to work in private
00:39:52.000
conservative talk radio. A lot of the media are like, oh, don't want to associate with that. But
00:39:57.980
I've been around this game for 25 odd years. I know people in every party. I know how to reach them,
00:40:05.960
able to talk to them, get inside info. That's why I'm paid to do what I do. You know, I couldn't claim
00:40:13.480
to be a complete outsider at this point. Mark Carney is more ingratiated in the system than I am.
00:40:18.680
And he's claiming he's an outsider. He's not. And that's why he gets a pass from the media. He's
00:40:24.940
friends with an awful lot of them. I'm, if I ran into Mark on the street, we would know each other to
00:40:31.260
say hi, could have a friendly conversation. We're not buddies. But he is, you know, he's actually got
00:40:36.580
friends in the media. And I think that's why he gets a pass. It's, it's, it's a little unreal.
00:40:42.820
You know, look, I've got lots of politicians who I know, who I'm friends with, connections with,
00:40:48.020
they still get kicked in the shins from me, and they know it. Mark Carney deserves to be asked
00:40:52.420
serious questions about his policies. Like he wants to bring in a carbon border adjustment,
00:40:58.800
meaning a tariff. We're in the middle of fighting the Americans on tariffs. And his big carbon tax
00:41:05.300
policy is you'll get rid of the consumer carbon tax, but put a carbon tariff on everything that
00:41:09.800
comes from a country that doesn't have a climate plan that he approves of. What, what US doesn't
00:41:15.700
have a carbon tax. What do you want to bet it would be on American goods? And what do you think the
00:41:20.040
reaction would be? You'd put the most left wing Democrat in the White House, we put a carbon
00:41:26.240
tariff on every import from America. What do you think the reaction is going to be from the
00:41:31.360
Americans? Economic war. Well, absolutely. I think Canada certainly dodged a bullet this week when
00:41:38.860
Trump decided to move away from the 25% tariff. Although to your point, it might still come and
00:41:44.020
other tariffs might still come. But it seems like Trump has, you know, he's moved on. He's, he's,
00:41:49.700
he's talking about a new deal. I'm not talking about Canada being the 51st state anymore. And now he's
00:41:54.080
talking about Gaza. So I want to talk to you, Brian, about this latest development. Trump had
00:41:58.340
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the White House yesterday. And Trump just made this
00:42:04.240
absolute bombshell announcement, saying that the US will take over Gaza and develop it, and that the
00:42:10.820
Palestinians should leave. Unbelievable. So I want to play this clip. Here is Trump talking about what
00:42:17.620
he wants to do. The US will take over the Gaza Strip. And we will do a job with it, too. We'll own it
00:42:24.580
and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on
00:42:30.220
the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an
00:42:36.880
economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the
00:42:43.920
area, do a real job, do something different, just can't go back. If you go back, it's going to end
00:42:49.940
up the same way it has for 100 years. So I guess Gaza is going to be the 51st state, not Canada. We
00:42:56.680
might we might be 52. Brian, what do you what do you make of this? Quite the bold prediction. I don't
00:43:04.440
know who's going to live there after it's developed, though. Is he going to give it to Israel? Or will the
00:43:09.440
Gazans be able to come back? I you know, if you haven't been there, it's heartbreaking to see what's
00:43:17.620
happening because Gaza could actually be the next Dubai. It's on the Mediterranean. They've got
00:43:23.920
beautiful beaches. They've got wonderful spots. Could be a tourist Mecca. Nobody wants to go there.
00:43:29.600
Why? Because for more than 20 years, they've used it as an armed camp to build up machines of war and
00:43:37.380
terrorist attacks and constantly attack Israel. They they could develop into the most amazing
00:43:43.860
locations. Donald Trump's not boasting when he says that everybody I talked to in Israel said if they
00:43:51.920
would stop fighting us, they could have the most amazing economy over there, but they won't. So
00:43:58.900
I'm not sure he could do this. It's an interesting proposal. What's he going to do to get Egypt and
00:44:08.100
Jordan to take their share of the 1.8 million Gazans that are there right now? I don't know. But it is
00:44:17.300
telling that none of the neighboring countries want this population in their country. Why? Because it is the
00:44:23.860
most radicalized place on earth. One of the stories I was told was that at the start of UNRWA, which Trump
00:44:32.500
has said he's not going to fund anymore, and neither should we, at the start of UNRWA, after the
00:44:40.260
the Arab-Israeli war in 47-48, they thought, okay, we'll do like a Marshall Plan for
00:44:49.060
the area and help the Arabs build up. And they sent in an American official who had dealt with
00:44:55.540
development in the United States very successfully. And after a while, he quit. And they said, well,
00:45:01.540
why are you quitting? And he said, because we can't resettle and rebuild with a population that doesn't
00:45:08.820
want to move on. The popular in this, this was around 19 or 1950 or early 50s. He'd spent a couple
00:45:16.660
of years trying to rebuild. And he said, they don't want to move on. They don't want to change.
00:45:22.100
They just want to go back and take over Israel and destroy it. What has changed in the 75 years since?
00:45:28.580
Nothing. And so leaving Hamas in place, though, that's not an answer. Leaving UNRWA in place? That's
00:45:38.180
not an answer. But I don't know if what Trump is suggesting here is feasible. You always have to look
00:45:44.580
and say, okay, is he serious? Or is he doing this? You know, that's my opening position.
00:45:50.180
We'll settle for something else. Yeah. I mean, maybe he's trying to entice
00:45:54.900
Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates or someone else to say, no, no, we'll step in and take over.
00:46:00.260
I mean, I agree. Like, look, it's interesting to watch because every real power and presumably
00:46:06.500
Canada will condemn this as well and say like, no, this violates international law. You cannot displace
00:46:11.140
these people. The reality is that during a war, you would move people out. A lot of the people have
00:46:16.740
already been displaced and removed. And the whole point of a refugee program is to resettle them
00:46:21.460
elsewhere. It's what we did with Syrian refugees. They left Syria because they couldn't be there
00:46:24.740
anymore. And they got resettled all over. So again, Trump said, you know, that the US will take it,
00:46:30.660
they'll own it. Trump sort of sounding like a real estate mogul there, like, you know, he's going to do
00:46:35.220
a deal. He's going to build some beautiful resorts or something along the Mediterranean beaches there.
00:46:39.460
Um, and then he said that the territory, uh, that the people should move to a territory in
00:46:44.340
countries like Jordan and Egypt. And to the point that you just made, um, these countries have
00:46:48.420
resisted because it's such a radicalized population. Like at this point, I think it's like Canada and
00:46:52.420
the UK are the only countries that have actually said that they would take even just a small number
00:46:56.020
of one other, one or two others. Uh, and I think Indonesia took them for, you know, in exchange for
00:47:02.340
some cash. Uh, but the, you know, I think Saudi Arabia could do a good job, um, in the area. They,
00:47:10.580
they are, uh, not tolerant of radical populations. Um, they are trying to, uh, you know, they know that
00:47:19.700
they had their own, uh, problem with radicalization and they're in some ways trying to reform their branch
00:47:25.380
of Islam. So they may be able to, to do something good and, and they would be able to develop it
00:47:32.020
very well. Um, but nobody wants to invest and create jobs in Gaza. Nobody wants to go and stay
00:47:38.660
at a hotel in Gaza because you'll get, you know, even before the war started, the, the risk of violence
00:47:45.620
was, was quite high. So, you know, there's the, the solution at the end of this has to be that the
00:47:51.780
terrorist group that took billions of dollars of aid money from countries like Canada, like the
00:47:57.300
United States, like Germany, and dug up water pipes that were supposed to be for the, you know,
00:48:03.940
to make sure people had clean water to drink, dug them up at, or, or just never put them in the ground
00:48:08.900
and use those water pipes to build rockets. Those people can't be left in charge. The people that
00:48:14.820
starve their own population or use them as human shields can't be left in charge. And right now,
00:48:20.340
if Israel just walks away, that's who's left in charge, unless somebody else like the U.S. or Saudi
00:48:26.900
Arabia goes in and cleans things up. Uh, but it'll take a long time to de-radicalize a population
00:48:34.740
that has been taught in schools that you and I paid for to hate Jews simply for existing. And that's
00:48:43.060
what they've been taught for far too long. It's so true. Like everyone knows the status quo is broken.
00:48:47.860
Everyone knows that we can't go back to how we were before October 7th. I, I just, I appreciate
00:48:52.020
Trump for kind of coming up with an outside the box, unique solution. And even if it's just to
00:48:55.780
get the ball rolling and try to get someone else to actually take over this land, I think that's the
00:49:00.260
right, uh, step in the right direction. Anyway, if I can just say this, it's smarter than saying,
00:49:06.340
let's have a two state solution. Who's the other state? Who's the other partner? They don't exist.
00:49:11.380
Exactly. Because you can't have terrorists, um, running, running that place anymore. I want
00:49:16.740
to talk with you about the Ontario election. I know you're there in Toronto and Queen's Park,
00:49:20.340
uh, reporting on it. We had, uh, both, uh, major candidates, uh, under a bit of fire in the last,
00:49:25.300
uh, few hours here, uh, for, uh, hot mic incidents. So, um, just to provide a bit of, uh, context for
00:49:32.740
everybody. So, uh, Doug Ford triggered an election last week. The election date here in Ontario will be
00:49:37.700
February 27th. Um, so it will come before the, um, updated 30 day or 28 day, um, pause on tariffs.
00:49:46.500
Interesting because Doug Ford kind of triggered this election saying that the ballot box question
00:49:50.340
was who could best deal with Trump and respond to Trump. And that issue has kind of been neutralized.
00:49:55.140
And so now we have an election and I'm not sure what the ballot box question is. Maybe you can answer
00:49:58.580
that for us. But first, um, you know, Doug Ford, much like Donald Trump has received union endorsements,
00:50:04.740
which is not something that's common for conservatives. So he has a whole number of
00:50:09.140
unions, including, uh, Unifor United Auto Workers endorsing him. Um, PCs are projected to win a massive
00:50:16.180
majority. Uh, they're pulling up 45% to the liberals, 27%, which may equate to PCs getting something like
00:50:22.900
99 seats. Uh, the liberals getting, um, wiped down to third place with nine seats and the NDP with 13.
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Um, so, well, first of all, we'll go to Doug Ford's hot mic situation. So here he was on Tuesday,
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um, where he accidentally let it split that he, uh, was happy that Donald Trump,
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So I don't know if, if Ford realized that he was, uh, audio, uh, audio was on there,
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but you could hear him say that he was 100% happy when Donald Trump won the election,
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but then he felt betrayed saying that Trump pulled out the knife and yanked it into us.
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Um, later on that campaign stop, uh, he was asked if he is still supporting Donald Trump,
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and he replied, absolutely not. Uh, let's play that clip. Um, thank you.
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You've previously voiced support or admiration, I suppose, for, for Donald Trump. Do you can still
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consider yourself a Trump supporter? Absolutely not. Can you expand?
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It's just so disappointing. I'm, I'm sure there's millions of Canadians that, uh, thought,
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okay, this might be a good change down in the U.S. It's been a disaster. I'd never support that guy
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in my entire life. So he really, uh, had, had, had a change of heart there. Uh, I don't know if it's
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controversial for him to say that he 100% supported, uh, Trump in the first place, but made it very clear
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that he's, uh, very disappointed. Now, not to be outdone, the Ontario liberal leader, Bonnie Crombie,
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who's a former mayor of Mississauga, uh, was also caught on more of a hot mug. This is,
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I think, much more damaging, uh, to her brand. Uh, she can be heard saying that she doesn't care
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about Brampton. Uh, I think we have that clip if we can play that. No, no, that's here.
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No, no, no, not in Brampton. I don't go to anything in Brampton. It's not my city. I don't care.
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Not my city. I don't care. I'm not clear exactly when that video, uh, audio came from. Um, but it is
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making the rounds trending and circulating. Not a great thing for someone who wants to be
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premier of the entire province. Uh, so Brian, what's your take on all this?
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Well, in fairness to Crombie, uh, um, my understanding is she said that while she was
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mayor of Mississauga. And, but you know, is that going to help her in Brampton? She was just
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in Brampton campaigning on a tax cut and trying to win some seats there. I don't think that's going to
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happen. Um, I don't think it'll hurt her in Mississauga, which is pretty, uh, big suburb of Toronto
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and vote rich. Uh, and outside of Brampton and Mississauga, nobody's going to care because if
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you don't, if you live in Ottawa, if you live in Richmond Hill, if you live in Hamilton, you don't
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care about Brampton either. So it's not going to be an issue, but it will hurt her in that area.
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And the liberals were hoping to make gains there. Uh, they're the only ones that can take those seats
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away from the PCs this time. I don't think the NDP who won some seats in the area in 2018,
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I don't think they can do it now. Uh, we'll see how the, the hot mic about Donald Trump, um,
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plays out or maybe it's already played out. I mean, the news cycle is so fast these days
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that people moved on. It'd be hard to say since November 25th, when Trump posted his, um,
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his, uh, you know, uh, comments about 25% tariffs, which were shocking to everybody.
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He had talked about 10% tariffs, never 25% aimed at Canada. Nobody's been more vocal in trying to fix
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that than Doug Ford. I mean, he's, he's even done more interviews than Danielle Smith. She's probably
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like right behind him. The two of them on American media constantly trying to make Canada's case.
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The prime minister wasn't. So you can't say that, uh, you know, he's been out there endorsing what
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Trump's doing now. So we'll have to wait and see if it hurts him in a couple of days. The opposition
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parties just aren't able to, to punch through right now though. Um, and you said that the tariff
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issue has kind of been neutralized. No, no. And Ford has been rightly, rightly making these comments,
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whether it's tomorrow, next week, next month, six months from now, there's going to be more tariffs
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and there's going to be more protectionist measures. Why would he have been in favor of
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Trump over Kamala Harris though? What most people don't realize is that the Democrats were incredibly
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protectionist. Uh, just like there's been a change in the bipartisan consensus on trade overall and on
00:54:58.900
China, protectionism is back in vogue in both parties. And the only difference between Trump and the
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Democrats, whether it's Obama, Biden or Harris is that the Democrats will come at you smiling and
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give you a big hug and tell you how wonderful you are while they slip the knife between your ribs.
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And Trump comes at you with the knife up here screaming that he's coming for you. He tells you
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up front, they do it sneakily. Harris was behind some legislation that most of it passed the inflation
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reduction act, which there were, uh, other features in the original edition of the inflation reduction
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act that would have decimated Ontario's auto industry. And the only reason that got taken out
00:55:41.540
was that Senator Joe Manson from Virginia, and I forget the name of the two Democrat senators in Georgia,
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they represented auto plants that weren't unionized and they had included, uh, language that said it had
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to be unionized. So some of that got watered down, but at the end of the day, the inflation reduction
00:55:58.740
act, the IRA is still the reason why all those, uh, EV battery deals, the billions and billions to
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Stellantis and Volkswagen, thankfully those have not been paid out yet, by the way. Um, those were
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to match what the Americans were offering in the inflation reduction act. The good news is the language
00:56:19.220
in the contract says if one, if you don't produce the batteries, you don't get the tax break. It's a tax
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break, not a direct handout. And two, if the inflation reduction act is rescinded or goes away
00:56:30.740
in any way, shape or form, we're off the hook. Looks like Trump's going to get rid of that. So he may
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save Canadian and Ontario taxpayers billions. Uh, but that's why he would be in favor of Trump rather
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than Harris. Harris was trying to kill off the auto industry and, and, you know, doing it sneakily.
00:56:46.100
Trump is now threatening the auto industry, doing it loudly. At least you know where he's coming from.
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Yeah. I don't, I don't think that, uh, many people would begrudge Ford for saying that he
00:56:55.620
supported Trump. I mean, I think that it's not 2016 anymore. Trump was actually one in a huge
00:57:00.580
majority and he's popular in large, uh, swaths of the population. Uh, Brian, let's just get to this
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really quickly because, uh, I, I saw, you know, uh, Elon Musk came in, uh, had a mandate placed in the
00:57:13.780
newly created department of government efficiency. A lot of people are kind of shooting the messenger,
00:57:17.460
uh, for him, for pointing out horribly wasteful programs. Uh, one of the ones that they set their
00:57:22.100
eyes on is USAID. And I saw that you tweeted, um, that, uh, this whole fight over USAID reminds
00:57:29.700
me of Stephen Harper's fight with CETA in Ottawa foreign affairs thinks they work for themselves,
00:57:34.980
not the people in government, but CETA was worse. So Harper sent in Bev Oda to clean it up.
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And oh boy. So just real quick, cause we've just got a minute or two left here. What do you think
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of what Elon Musk is doing? And, uh, do you think that we can do it up here in Canada as well?
00:57:50.660
Well, Bev Oda did it for Stephen Harper, uh, years ago. And I remember asking Harper
00:57:55.140
and one of the controversies, people were always out to get Oda. I said, why do you stand by her?
00:57:59.540
And he said, because you haven't seen the good work she's done cleaning up the department. I'm guessing
00:58:04.180
some of what she cleaned up is now messy again. So yeah, we're going to need that sort of thing,
00:58:08.980
but you, you'll look at some of the things that USAID is paying for and, and you say,
00:58:14.580
why would American taxpayers be half a million dollars to spread atheism in Nepal? Don't you
00:58:20.980
think the Nepalese government might say, what are you doing? Uh, you're going to annoy people with
00:58:25.700
projects like this or paying for, uh, sex change operations in other countries. Why, what are you
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doing? So, you know, I, I look, there's some good programs they do just like there's good programs
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seeded us, but there's always a lot of radical left stuff in there and you got to keep your eyes
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on for it. It's like in the Ontario education system. It's whack-a-mole. You, you smack one of
00:58:48.580
the crazy ideas down, it pops up somewhere else. So, um, whoever has that job when Polly have wins,
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which I hope happens soon, uh, they're going to have their hands full.
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Well, I, I nominated Franco from the CTF. We had him on the show yesterday and he had nothing but
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examples. So I said, okay, uh, I think that you should go in there and clean house. All right,
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Brian Lilly, it's such a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us. And thank you for all your
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insights. Thank you. All right, folks, we're going to leave it there. Thank you so much for tuning in.
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We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm