The Candice Malcolm Show - President Trump SLAMS Pierre Poilievre

00:00:00.000 Hi, and welcome to the Candace Malcolm Show. I'm your host, Candace Malcolm. Happy Friday,

00:00:11.800 everyone. We have a great show lined up for you today. We're going to talk about the Ontario

00:00:16.740 election. Pretty unsurprising, pretty predictable outcome there. Doug Ford gets his third straight

00:00:22.600 majority. There is an interesting sort of glimmer of hope and a good story that I want to talk

00:00:26.920 about with an independent MP who managed to win big. Her name is Bobbi Ann Brady. We're going to

00:00:32.260 talk about that. We're going to talk about Mark Carney and the polls, a little bit about Trump

00:00:36.560 and whether or not we're getting tariffs on March 4th or not. But first, I want to talk about this

00:00:41.140 big breaking news story that is just being released right now. Donald Trump did a sit-down interview

00:00:47.080 with a UK publication called The Spectator. The host of the show is an individual named Ben

00:00:53.560 Dominic. He's actually an American journalist. They did a sit-down interview and the topic of

00:00:59.140 Canada came up. The topic of Pierre Polyev came up. We haven't heard very much on Donald Trump,

00:01:05.020 on what he thinks of Pierre Polyev, what he thinks of the conservative leader here in Canada. And he

00:01:09.940 sort of gave his first opinion, gave his first bit of information about Pierre Polyev. It wasn't

00:01:15.260 very positive. I'm going to read the transcript. There's no video yet, but I'll read the transcript

00:01:19.960 and get a little bit of analysis on it. I'm pleased today to be joined on the show by some

00:01:24.800 of my favorite online activists and independent citizen journalists. I'm talking about Brett Sears

00:01:31.100 and an individual named Kevin, who runs a popular X account, Government X is Corrupt. So Brett Sears

00:01:37.340 is an independent researcher and citizen journalist. And then Kevin, like I said, runs that account

00:01:42.180 dedicated to exposing government corruption and legacy media bias. Gentlemen, thank you so much

00:01:47.160 for joining the program today. Thanks for having us on. Great. Okay. So I want to get

00:01:52.380 right to this. Donald Trump, in his own words, on Pierre Polyev. So like I said, the piece is for

00:01:59.040 The Spectator, which is an American publication. And the interviewer is an individual named Ben

00:02:04.000 Dominic. He is the editor of The Spectator magazine. And he had a sit-down interview in the Oval

00:02:14.000 office with Don Trump. This just came out moments ago, folks. So basically they were talking about

00:02:18.880 Kerr Steimer, the British prime minister who was in the White House, who was visiting with Trump and

00:02:23.400 his cabinet yesterday. They were talking about that. And then the conversation pivoted over to

00:02:27.580 Chrystia Freeland in Canada. So basically the interviewer, Ben says, this is the attitude of some

00:02:35.080 of these other left of center politicians, Chrystia Freeland up in Canada, who is doing a debate.

00:02:40.060 She's trying to lead the liberal party up there now into this election. And she says there needs

00:02:44.800 to be a nuclear alliance with other European nations and Japan against the United States

00:02:49.920 because you're predatory. Talking to Donald Trump. Trump replies, yes, she's terrible. I'll tell you

00:02:55.420 what, I know her very well. She's absolutely terrible for the country. She's incompetent in many respects

00:03:01.220 and could only cause ill will for Canada. In fact, Governor Trudeau understood that. I call him

00:03:06.760 Governor. Governor Trudeau understood that. And he actually fired her because of a meeting he had

00:03:12.460 with me. Interesting tidbit there. So Donald Trump is claiming responsibility for Chrystia Freeland

00:03:18.100 getting thrown under the bus and kicked out of Trudeau's cabinet. And remember that she resigned a few

00:03:22.960 days later. Let me just continue in this transcript. He said, I said, she's so bad. She's bad for the

00:03:29.440 country. You know, if I were talented, I know people that are sort of bad people, but they do a good job

00:03:35.440 running for the country. And he's saying that she's not one of those people. Who's going to get

00:03:39.500 the nomination, do you think? He asks. The interviewer, Ben says, I don't know. After the

00:03:43.600 debate, they seemed, well, she's the nuttiest, but they all seem pretty nutty to me. I have to agree

00:03:48.380 with that. All four of the liberal candidates seem pretty nutty to me. Trump comes back and says,

00:03:52.640 she's a whack. Then Ben, the interviewer says, the conservatives obviously have taken a bit of a hit

00:03:57.580 in the polls since some of your comments that you've made about the liberals that they've leaned into.

00:04:03.560 Do you think they're going to be able to pull it out up there? Interesting that he asks this

00:04:09.560 question because, yes, every time Trump talks about the 51st state, the liberals go up in the

00:04:14.880 polls. And so if I were Donald Trump or if I was advising Donald Trump, I'd say, just knock it off,

00:04:19.320 cut it out, stop saying that because you're actually having a negative impact in the polls

00:04:23.500 and possibly in the election. Up north, just a final bit here. So then this is where they start

00:04:28.080 talking about Pierre Polyev. So Trump says, well, I think his biggest problem is that he's not a

00:04:34.320 MAGA guy. You know, I mean, he's not really, he's not a Trump guy at all. And then the interviewer

00:04:40.640 comes back and says, he's more of a throwback Republican. Trump says, he's, he's different.

00:04:45.780 He's making a big mistake. They all make that mistake. You know, they think they're going to be

00:04:50.460 the tough guy. They're going to knock out Trump and they end up getting the hell beat out of him.

00:04:55.440 So I don't know. I mean, I can't tell you, Pierre. I just don't know. I don't like what he's saying

00:05:00.680 about me. It's not positive about me. And we've done a great job. And then Trump goes on to talk

00:05:05.780 about how he had the biggest comeback in American history with winning the election in 2024. So

00:05:11.480 not a very positive explanation or very kind words for Pierre Polyev. Brett, I don't know if you've

00:05:19.620 heard this before, if this is the first you're hearing of it, but what's your reaction to this?

00:05:23.740 Yeah. I mean, excuse me, this is absolutely the first I've heard of it just moments before we

00:05:28.600 came on here. And I, I like, for me, I've been a kind of a Trump supporter ever since he began back

00:05:35.840 in like when he went back in 2016. And, you know, I wasn't as surprised as a lot of people that he

00:05:43.920 actually won that election. I liked a lot of things that he, that he was saying and it resonated with

00:05:49.520 me. And I think it resonated with a lot of Americans, despite, you know, everybody being

00:05:55.060 called racist and whatever, all of the attacks. So when, when Polyev came out and like Trump started

00:06:06.960 talking about tariffs and all this and, and kind of all Canadian politicians want to want to do the

00:06:13.960 dollar for dollar hit back. We're going to, we're going to hurt the Americans just because the same way

00:06:18.520 that they're going to hurt us. And I was hoping that Pierre Polyev would take the position. Well,

00:06:25.260 I'm going to, I'm going to, instead of fighting back, I'm going to try to try to work with Trump

00:06:29.120 right on this. And, and I thought that would have been a better strategy. He didn't do that. He

00:06:33.560 basically took the same position as, as Trudeau and saying, and you know, all, all of our premiers,

00:06:41.120 maybe a little bit other than, than Danielle Smith, who seemed a little bit more keen on,

00:06:45.940 on trying to work with Trump. So, you know, I, I thought because Polyev had been asked many times

00:06:55.120 by reporters, have you spoken with Trump yet? And his answer always was that it wasn't appropriate

00:07:00.920 because he wasn't prime minister. And that's basically all he had to say about that. I think

00:07:05.480 a better strategy for him would have been to reach out. And I think that Trump would have spoken

00:07:09.460 to him and they could have, you know, talked a little bit on how to avoid these tariffs or how

00:07:15.500 to get a little bit of support for Trump. You know, of course that would come with attacks from

00:07:22.800 the liberal media. Well, I was going to say, like, I think that that might be a strategy that would be

00:07:28.000 best for the country, because I can picture a world where Trump and Polyev could strike a better

00:07:33.340 deal, could work together, could be partners, could deepen the relationship, make it better for

00:07:37.300 everybody. But Polyev has to get elected first. And I think that there is something in the minds of

00:07:42.680 Canadians that when they see Donald Trump and when they hear them, he's, they're just repulsed. So

00:07:47.320 Kevin, I'll bring you in on this. From a strategy perspective, can Pierre have a relationship with

00:07:53.300 Trump? Or is it better for him to have this like feud, lean into it maybe, and punch back at Trump

00:08:00.840 himself? Well, personally, if I were running the Polyev campaign, I would do a lot of things

00:08:06.840 differently than he's done over the years. First thing is to stop, you know, posting about Ukraine,

00:08:12.600 stop posting about financial aid to Ukraine, full stop on that. His supporters don't like it. Every

00:08:17.420 time he does, he gets major kickback in the threads, in the comment section. He should stop

00:08:22.860 doing that immediately. That's not a good position, especially if you're trying to promote Canada first,

00:08:27.520 and then you're talking about Ukraine. Second thing with, you know, in terms of Donald Trump,

00:08:31.960 you know, they're claiming that this is, you know, some type of, you know, you know, this is

00:08:35.300 Christopher Freeland's words not appear probably as, but Christopher Freeland saying it's, you know,

00:08:39.760 it's economic warfare. So fine, let's call it economic warfare, because they're trying to attack

00:08:44.800 our economy, which would lead to the 25% tariff, although it's not going to be paid directly through

00:08:51.380 taxation by Canadians, it's going to have a negative economic impact, you know, job losses. The goal is for

00:08:57.840 Donald Trump to attack, attract people to do business in the United States, that means it

00:09:02.500 would be taken from countries like Canada. So in order to offset that, you also have to take a look

00:09:08.600 at our governments have been, you know, engaging in economic warfare on the on the Canadian people on

00:09:13.360 our businesses for years, you can easily offset any economic, you know, down, like attack on the

00:09:22.780 United States by, you know, easing the rope up here, you know, massive cuts to business taxes,

00:09:28.240 massive cuts to personal income taxes, and actually promote a business friendly environment.

00:09:34.020 To be honest with you, Canada is a very hostile environment to do business in. Anybody who's run

00:09:38.240 a business would understand this, you know, anybody who's employed people understands the, you know,

00:09:42.900 just how difficult it is, and how much bureaucracy there is. So it would be very easy to offset any

00:09:48.740 economic damage that the United States, you know, tries to inflict on us by, you know, substantial

00:09:54.700 reduction in taxation, bureaucracy, which would promote businesses to maybe, okay, now, I might

00:10:02.080 not want to move to the United States, because, you know, it's a little bit cheaper to do business

00:10:05.500 here. It's, it's easier to hire and fire employees. And I don't have to deal with the cost of relocating

00:10:12.180 to the United States anymore. So that would be the approach to, to, to take, and not to, you know,

00:10:17.880 fire back with dollar for dollar tariffs, because now we're going to have the negative implications

00:10:22.300 from the United States, as well as more taxation on Canadians, because we're the ones that are

00:10:27.400 going to be paying that 25% import tariff. I think, I think what you're saying is right,

00:10:32.680 like in the long term, and it's weird, there's almost like a consensus now among all of the

00:10:37.560 political leaders that, yes, we need to be more competitive for business, we need to have pipelines

00:10:41.840 built, we need to reduce interprovincial trade barriers. And, you know, we need to make Canada

00:10:47.000 more of a business friendly environment. To me, those are all like long term strategies to

00:10:51.760 improve our economy. But they don't necessarily deal with like, the elephant in the room, which

00:10:56.360 is Trump. It's like, how do we talk to this guy? How do we negotiate with him? I mean, just the

00:11:02.340 latest example is tariffs. So yesterday, we heard from Trump that the tariffs weren't going to go into

00:11:06.780 effect until April 2. He didn't want to do it on April 1, because he's superstitious. So let's do it

00:11:11.800 on April 2. And then later in the day, he said, No, no, the tariffs are actually coming in. As we

00:11:18.520 said, on March 4. Let me just play that clip. Oh, sorry, it's a true social post. So on true social,

00:11:25.740 let me read from it. He said drugs are still pouring into our country from Mexico and Canada,

00:11:30.440 at very high and unacceptable levels, a large percentage of these drugs, much in the form of

00:11:34.980 fentanyl are made in or supplied by China, more than 100,000 people have died, he goes on. And then he

00:11:41.480 basically just says near the end, the proposed tariffs scheduled to go into effect, March 4 will

00:11:47.340 indeed go into effect as scheduled. So like, there's more to that as well, though, read the rest.

00:11:54.520 Because after that, he says there could be additional taxes depending on, on that.

00:11:59.080 As scheduled, he says, I China will likely be charged an additional 10% tariff on that date,

00:12:04.340 the April 2nd reciprocal tariff date will remain in full force. You're right, Brett. So he's saying

00:12:09.680 that there's going to be two rounds of tariffs. I suppose one is a penalty for fentanyl and the

00:12:18.480 drug flowing across the border. And then the second one is more to do with poor trade practices.

00:12:25.280 I guess so. It seems like if, you know, if, if we're saying, okay, well, now we're going to match

00:12:30.960 dollar for dollar, then this, then he's saying, well, now I'm going to put additional tariffs.

00:12:36.400 To me, that's how I read it.

00:12:37.680 Yeah, right. No, you're right. And so like, how can, how can, like, if, for someone like Pierre

00:12:43.960 Polyev, I think it's not a bad thing politically that Trump is saying that he's not a MAGA guy,

00:12:49.520 he's not coming and basically kissing the ring. He doesn't like Trump. He doesn't say good things

00:12:53.840 about Trump. I like, that's not a bad thing politically for Polyev, but there is a deeper

00:12:58.400 problem here, which is that someone has to stand up and negotiate a deal with Trump. Someone needs

00:13:04.160 to step up and say, look, it might not be very popular for me to go down and speak to him, but I

00:13:08.560 have to for, for Canadians. And I just, I don't see that happening. I think that there's too much

00:13:12.640 political gain for all the parties, for Polyev, for Mark Carney, for, I mean, Chrystia Freeland is kind of

00:13:18.320 not a relevant figure right now, because I don't think she has a chance of winning. But, you know,

00:13:23.120 in order to win an election, the Canadian people want to see you being tough and strong against

00:13:27.600 Trump, not making any kind of concessions, and certainly not having any kind of a friendship.

00:13:31.280 What do you think, Brett? Well, personally, I mean, I'm Canadian, and I would rather him have a

00:13:38.160 friendship with Trump. But I, and also, I think that, you know, the, whoever is going to be the

00:13:48.240 next Prime Minister, really, whoever leads the Liberal Party, has already taken this combative

00:13:54.080 approach against Trump. And, you know, I don't think that necessarily going for those voters who

00:14:01.040 are going to vote for, for Liberals anyway, is really a good strategy. You see it in the polls

00:14:08.960 already. It's like, okay, well, Trudeau's gone. People didn't like Trudeau. Conservatives gained on

00:14:13.760 that. Polyev gained on that. But it was more of a backlash against Trudeau. And now that someone else

00:14:21.840 is going to be the leader, probably Mark Carney, you know, he's going to get all those voters back. And

00:14:31.440 I think that it's more important for the Conservatives, for Polyev to take a different approach than

00:14:39.040 the Liberals do with their, with their really combative stance. I don't, I don't disagree. I just, I just

00:14:45.840 don't, like, given, given the flip that we've seen in the polls, Sean, if we can just show this graph,

00:14:51.520 showing the change in the polls over the last four years, I mean, this is just one of the most

00:14:55.920 incredible things. So going back basically four years, the Conservatives have held this really

00:15:02.240 strong lead. And then you can just see the line where Justin Trudeau resigns. And the more Canadians

00:15:09.040 learn about Mark Carney, it seems the more they like him, that that complete reversal in such a short

00:15:13.840 period of time, to me, has everything to do with President Trump and with Canadians feeling

00:15:21.520 uneasy and insecure, and wanting someone who's going to stand up like, like the Liberals are the party

00:15:26.560 of anti Americanism. I don't endorse that. I don't like that. I'm pro American. I like America. I think

00:15:30.960 Canada should have a closer union, and a deeper friendship, and more economic integration. Obviously,

00:15:36.560 I still think Canada should be an independent country. But I think that there should be a strong

00:15:39.920 relationship. But I don't think I'm, I think I'm an outlier in Canada on this. I think that that most

00:15:45.440 Canadians don't feel that way. I mean, you can see it in the polls, that they don't like what

00:15:50.320 Trump is saying. And Trump is pushing Canadians back into the arms of the Liberals. And it's

00:15:55.840 terrifying. Kevin, what do you think?

00:15:58.240 Yeah, like, you know, back in December, I think it was like December 30. There was a poll put out by I

00:16:04.400 think it was Angus Reid. And no, the Liberals were, you know, all time lows in terms of support historic

00:16:10.960 lows, you know, the lowest point of support that the party has had, and it's 150 some odd year history.

00:16:17.360 So it is just, it just makes it, you know, me from being like, watching the markets, the stock markets,

00:16:23.920 and whatnot, it's called the relief rally, right? So this support that you're seeing this rise in

00:16:29.440 support, it's just, you know, a cloud, a classic bounce back off of historic lows. And, you know,

00:16:36.000 it was driven primarily by fear, through the media, and through the government, but and changing the

00:16:44.000 the ballot box question from, you know, you know, you know, acts the tax and Justin Trudeau sucks to

00:16:51.520 Oh, my God, you know, Trump is going to destroy us all. And we know that, you know, the Canadian,

00:16:58.320 the average Canadian mind is very easily manipulated, you know, with relatively, you know, in a relatively

00:17:05.680 short time, I mean, just look at how people reacted to the, you know, so called dangers of COVID,

00:17:12.320 you know, 80% of the people were, if not more, were masking up all of through this, you know,

00:17:17.680 fear driven, you know, media event. And it's the same type of tactic that the media is using on

00:17:25.280 Donald, on Donald Trump. It's, you know, basically, what they're doing is engaging, in my opinion,

00:17:32.160 you can probably see a different opinion. But in my opinion, they're engaging in psychological warfare

00:17:38.160 on the human on the Canadian people, in order to, you know, in order to drive their polls

00:17:45.280 to the upside, because the only winners of, of this, you know, strategy that the media is playing

00:17:52.080 is the Liberal Party. That's they're the only liberals, they're the only winners, because

00:17:56.560 that is how they govern, they govern through fear, they govern through crisis, you know, manufactured crisis

00:18:02.640 or not. And, you know, over the last nine or 10 years, how many crises have we been through,

00:18:07.520 under this Liberal Party, you know, the pandemic, the, the, the climate crisis, and now, you know,

00:18:12.480 economic crisis with with Donald Trump, and every time they declare a new, you know, so called crisis,

00:18:18.080 you know, their polling numbers get better. You're right. And Mark Carney said this in the debate,

00:18:22.640 he said that we're facing a bigger crisis, then COVID, then the financial crisis of 2008. And Mark

00:18:28.800 Carney is the only one apparently that can get us through the crisis. So just a follow up for you,

00:18:32.400 Kevin, do you believe the polls when you see these polls that show the recent one from Ipsos,

00:18:37.680 which is a very reputable pollster, you know, there's there's Frank Graves and Ecos, he was the

00:18:42.000 first one to say that the liberals are catching up, he's sort of seen not as legitimately as a pollster,

00:18:48.320 he's more of a partisan liberal, and sometimes he's been wrong. Whereas Ipsos isn't like that.

00:18:53.200 Now, it seems that the critical mass of pollsters are showing, you know, the Ipsos poll story

00:18:58.240 earlier this week, showed that the liberals are up two points, that they're at 38,

00:19:01.840 the conservatives nationally are polling at 36. I mean, that's not good news for

00:19:07.360 Polyev and his team. Is it real, though? Or is the media sort of somehow manipulating this

00:19:13.600 to convince Canadians that Mark Carney is the front runner, and he is the sort of,

00:19:17.600 you know, the front runner to be the prime minister when the election?

00:19:21.440 Well, when I look at polls, right, like the Ipsos poll that you show, or, you know,

00:19:25.520 the countless other polls, I don't look at the percentage in numbers, but I look at the

00:19:29.200 the change in percentage over a period of time on their own polls. So, you know, everybody is

00:19:33.920 coming out and saying, oh, you know, the polls are fake now. But a year ago, or two years ago,

00:19:38.880 when they were showing the conservatives were having, you know, a big league, nobody was saying

00:19:42.240 the polls were fake, right? So if you compare the polls to themselves over time, and then you can

00:19:48.240 compare the rise and the fall, instead of the actual percentage versus one party to another,

00:19:52.960 then you can get a good idea. So we don't know what their support is, but we know that there's

00:19:57.680 definitely a change in trend. And there is a move away from the Conservative Party to the Liberal Party,

00:20:06.080 and from the NDP to the Liberal Party. Because I think, you know, this one thing, you know,

00:20:11.200 realized he qualified for his pension, his primary goal now is to, you know, it seems to be to get the

00:20:18.400 the Liberals reelected. And he can only do that by tanking his own party, which he's, you know,

00:20:24.480 quite capable of doing. So, you know, it's, it's from both sides. And if you look at, you know,

00:20:30.400 historically speaking, the conservatives were way higher than than their polling averages,

00:20:36.240 historic polling averages. So, you know, the people that they gained over the two, three years,

00:20:43.840 or whatnot, since the last election that, you know, people were unhappy with, with Justin Trudeau,

00:20:49.520 and just gravitated towards the Conservative Party, like Brett said earlier, are just, you know,

00:20:54.160 are just going back. And if you look at the demographics, you know, mostly is in Ontario.

00:20:59.440 And it's, you know, my, my family, you know, my parents, you know, the the older generation,

00:21:05.760 you know, they're, they're lifelong Liberals, and they were, you know, gravitating towards the

00:21:10.880 Conservative Party, and now they're back, back to the Liberals. So it's, you know, the older

00:21:14.800 generations that, you know, primarily get their, their, their news from, you know, CTV, CBC, you

00:21:20.800 know, whatever you want to call it, that are actually buying into this fear. And it's like a

00:21:26.720 feedback loop, right? Like you throw out this, you know, trial balloon, you know, you know, predictive

00:21:32.240 programming, and then you start saying it over and over and over again, until enough people actually

00:21:37.520 believe it, and then it becomes its own reality. And then once it does that, it starts to snowball.

00:21:42.560 So I don't see this, you know, change in trend, you know, slowing down anytime soon, as long as the

00:21:48.720 narrative is driven and focused on, you know, Donald Trump. And, you know, when they pulled out, pulled

00:21:55.200 Trudeau out and announced as, you know, this rigorous process of, you know, electing a new, a new leader,

00:22:00.880 I said, at that point, I said, you know, now it's very likely that the Conservatives are going to lose

00:22:06.480 their majority government, they're probably going to win a minority, and they might even lose the

00:22:11.440 election because of this. And, you know, fast forward, two months later, a month and a half

00:22:15.760 later, and that's the position that we're in, it was very easy. And it was really nothing to do with,

00:22:21.280 you know, you know, Pierre Polyave or, or Justin Trudeau, but everything to do with how easily

00:22:27.520 manipulated the average person is into buying a false narrative or straight up propaganda.

00:22:34.160 Well, it's interesting that you talk about your parents there and how they may have moved back.

00:22:38.080 I feel that way too. Like, I don't know anybody who gets their news from CBC. Like literally,

00:22:42.800 I don't know anybody who believes it or trusts it. And the people that I know who are sort of

00:22:46.800 of that older generation, like the boomers, they're the people that support True North. And they like,

00:22:53.440 hate and loathe and despise the CBC. And they're always trying to convince their friends not to watch

00:22:58.240 it. My own parents, like, I would have considered my own parents to be more on the conservative side.

00:23:03.120 They came out and visited us during, it just happened that it overlapped. They live in

00:23:07.040 Vancouver. They came and visited it during the US election. And I could not believe how deranged

00:23:12.080 they were. I love my parents, all due respect, but how deranged they were about President Trump.

00:23:16.640 Like they really, they were radicalized. It's like they started watching the CBC. All of a sudden,

00:23:21.760 they were watching MSNBC and hanging off their seats, everything that Rachel Maddow was telling

00:23:25.920 them they believed to be true. So they think that Donald Trump is a literal fascist who's going to

00:23:30.160 invade Canada. And it's like, it's hard, it's hard to even like walk someone away from that position.

00:23:36.240 But it does make you realize that the CBC still does have a stronghold, even though their viewership

00:23:40.800 is at an all time low. And people who are online, people like us, it's so easy to mock them because

00:23:46.800 they're so ridiculous. But there is a subset of the population, maybe even a critical subset,

00:23:52.400 that still believes and hangs off every word that Rosemary Barton and the CBC has to say.

00:23:58.160 What do you think, Brett?

00:23:58.960 Well, if we're talking about parents, I'll just share a little anecdote there. My mother,

00:24:07.600 what used to be one of those people who would watch CBC, she had CNN on the TV, like all the time,

00:24:14.320 back when Trump's first presidency, and I used to tell her, I had a, well, I have a son, he was a lot

00:24:21.120 younger at that time. I said, I'm not letting him go over there if you're just going to be playing

00:24:24.640 propaganda all the time. You know, with CBC and CNN, I was like, just turn it off when he goes over.

00:24:31.200 But if you're not going to, I don't want to go over it kind of in a somewhat joking way, but also

00:24:36.000 serious. And, you know, it was, it wasn't until the Coronavirus pandemic and all that, where, and

00:24:46.320 really after the vaccine rolled out, she realized how much they actually lie, right? That's when she

00:24:53.040 started to see through them. And now I would say she's, to use a term, she's kind of red-pilled now.

00:24:59.360 So there is, people can break through that. Well, that's nice. That must be nice for you. I'm

00:25:04.960 still trying to find a way to red-pill my own parents. But yeah, to me, watching how the CBC covered

00:25:11.840 the trucker convoy, like I've never been a fan of the CBC, and I think they've gotten markedly worse

00:25:16.480 over the last decade. But watching how that narrative unfolded, I mean, for us as like independent

00:25:22.320 journalists, we were watching it too. And what I saw was like a hopeful movement of like

00:25:27.280 working class people saying, enough is enough, we've had enough. And Canadians rallying around,

00:25:32.080 it was like a beautiful story of, of like an uprising in support of freedom. And then to see

00:25:37.600 the way that it wasn't just CBC, but it was all of them, CTV, all the newspapers, everybody just viewed

00:25:42.880 it in this totally different lens. I believe it was getting fed to them by the Trudeau government that

00:25:46.720 they decided we have to paint these people as insurrectionists, as like a January 6th,

00:25:50.960 they're far right, racist, fascists, they're funded by the Americans, this whole story that

00:25:56.320 at the time, there was no evidence to point to it. But the way that they in a coordinated,

00:26:01.040 in fact, it was it was a PSYOP, it was propaganda. And I do think that that experience that one story

00:26:06.800 did red pill, to use your term, but a lot of people like I mean, I meet people almost all the

00:26:11.840 time, who say, you know, it was during the pandemic during the trucker convoy, specifically,

00:26:16.240 the freedom convoy, that I came to realize that I could trust True North, and I could not trust the

00:26:21.040 CBC. And so you know, those, those are opportunities for us. But at the same time, you know, we're still

00:26:28.160 just a fraction of the population. And I'm worried that, well, that they could continue and that we

00:26:34.560 could see, like six weeks ago, if you told me Mark Carney is not only going to be selected as Prime

00:26:39.040 Minister by the Liberal Party, but that he will go into a general election and win, I would be like,

00:26:44.080 that's just an absolute pipe dream never going to happen. You know, the Canadian people want an

00:26:48.240 election, they want Trudeau gone, they want to punish the Liberals. Pierre Polyev will win in

00:26:51.840 a sweeping majority, like 100%. And now it's like, you know, we're at the end of February. And I think

00:26:58.320 that the odds of Polyev winning have gone down remarkably. What do you think about that, Kevin?

00:27:04.240 Yeah, like, you know, my first time I came out publicly, you know, on a public forum and said that

00:27:12.160 Carney is going to be the next Prime Minister. It was back in 2019. So I've been talking about,

00:27:18.400 you know, Mark Carney replacing Justin Trudeau for a very long time. So, you know, it doesn't

00:27:26.480 surprise me at all that not only is Carney going to be the next, you know, Prime Minister, Liberal

00:27:32.960 Leader and Prime Minister in what, like, two weeks, he'll be the next Prime Minister.

00:27:38.160 Yeah, 10 days.

00:27:40.400 Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. And it doesn't surprise me that he may actually have a chance

00:27:47.360 at forming government. And if he doesn't form government, you know, and the Conservatives

00:27:53.520 manage to pull out a minority, then he'll have the ability to form a coalition government, right?

00:27:59.520 And then, you know, launch a non-confidence vote in 12 to 18 months, and then form government after

00:28:08.320 that, you know, take Polyev out through a non-confidence vote. So that is likely, you know,

00:28:15.680 what's going to happen is they're either going to form government or they're going to topple the

00:28:19.840 government in a relatively short amount of time.

00:28:21.840 Right. And what do you think about that, Brett?

00:28:24.080 Well, I mean, I remember when Trudeau announced his resignation, everybody celebrated,

00:28:31.200 yay, Trudeau's going to resign. Yeah, he's out of here. But I remember thinking at the time and

00:28:36.000 writing it that, you know, it would have been a lot better if Justin Trudeau had led the Liberals

00:28:42.240 into the next election and taken them all down with him, because he wasn't going to go anywhere.

00:28:46.880 You know, he wasn't going to get reelected. So it would have been much better if he stayed on as

00:28:51.840 the leader and dragged the Liberal Party down with him.

00:28:56.400 OK, let's let's move on, because we had an election in Ontario last night. I don't think

00:28:59.600 the results surprised anyone. But Doug Ford cruised to his third straight consecutive

00:29:05.440 majority government in Ontario. It wasn't close. Within minutes after the polls closed,

00:29:12.080 the results were in. And whoops, are we having some technical difficulties? OK,

00:29:16.480 the results were in. It looks at this point like the PCs will win with 43 percent of the vote,

00:29:22.640 80 seats. NDP gets 27. So they'll hold on to their official opposition status. The Liberal Party

00:29:29.280 down to 14 seats, even though, interestingly, they got 30 percent of the vote. So much more,

00:29:34.000 much bigger percent of the vote than the NDP. But the NDP's vote clearly was much more efficient.

00:29:39.440 You had two Green Party seats and one independent. So a couple of interesting facts about the

00:29:46.160 election last night. Voter turnout was incredibly low. Right. So we had it looks like the voter

00:29:51.280 turnout was 45 percent. So fewer than half of eligible voters on Ontario bothered to show up

00:29:56.880 just slightly above the 2022. 2022 was also noted for being extremely low voter turnout, only 44 percent.

00:30:03.760 And I suppose that was still COVID related. I don't I don't really know. Back in 2018,

00:30:08.960 voter turnout was 57 percent. So considerably lower. And if you look at the federal numbers like

00:30:15.440 in 2015, 68 percent of Canadians voted eligible voters voted. 2019, it was 67. 2021, it was 62.

00:30:23.360 And again, that was like a COVID election. So not a lot of enthusiasm. I would read that as like

00:30:29.360 a lot of the sort of base of the Conservative Party stayed home because they weren't very enthusiastic

00:30:34.880 about Doug Ford. But still, you know, it's historic. So we will play this clip of Doug Ford

00:30:42.240 at his victory speech. Of course, part of the reason that he won, part of the reason the auction happened

00:30:46.480 is because he was pitting himself as the opponent of Donald Trump, the one that can stand up to

00:30:51.200 Donald Trump. So here he is at his victory speech talking about President Trump. Donald Trump thinks he

00:30:58.000 can break us. He thinks he can divide and conquer, pit region against region. Donald Trump doesn't

00:31:06.080 know what we know. He is underestimating us. He is underestimating the resilience of the Canadian

00:31:13.120 people, the Canadian spirit. Make no mistake, Canada won't start a fight with the US,

00:31:20.160 but you better believe we're ready to win one. Okay, so Doug Ford doing his thing. Now you had

00:31:28.080 some sad faces over at the CBC afterwards. Here is Rosemary Barton downplaying Doug Ford's victory.

00:31:34.880 She's saying that the key takeaway is that Doug Ford should be very careful, apparently,

00:31:39.440 and that this was not a sweeping super majority. Let's play that clip.

00:31:42.960 I don't think that Doug Ford can look at this result and not take some sort of message from it. Yes,

00:31:49.520 the message can be people still like me. I have a mandate now to go ahead and deal with Donald

00:31:54.880 Trump. But I think it would be foolish to not also take from the results tonight. I have to be

00:32:01.680 careful. This is not the sweeping super majority that we've been talking about. I don't know. It

00:32:08.800 does look like a sweeping super majority to me. I can't imagine Liberals winning that many seats and

00:32:14.560 them saying anything like that. Brett, what do you think? Well, that was the first time I watched

00:32:18.880 CBC in a long time. So that was interesting. I don't know. Doug Ford, he's basically just a liberal

00:32:30.240 light. So it's not surprising that in a province that is a very liberal province that he would

00:32:38.880 come away with the victory. Yeah.

00:32:42.960 Okay, Kevin, you have any thoughts on it? I mean, it's predictable. And one of the posts that I put

00:32:51.120 out this morning was, you know, how can you hold all these COVID collaborators to account if you keep

00:32:57.520 reelecting them to government, right? You know, look what Doug Ford did. A lot of people say, oh, you

00:33:02.080 know, you can blame, you know, Justin Trudeau's Liberals for what they did federally. And they did a lot,

00:33:06.560 you know, with their mandates and restrictions. But, you know, they also handed out money to I

00:33:13.120 think it was, you know, over a billion dollars to get, you know, premiers to buy into the passport

00:33:18.720 program. So, you know, it was, you know, that was a provincial issue. You know, you know, what Doug Ford

00:33:24.000 did with Adamson's barbecue with it with the, you know, shutting it down and, you know, basically dragging

00:33:30.320 them out, you know, you know, authoritarian style arrests in front of the cameras. You know,

00:33:36.480 a lot of the tyrannical lockdown policies were not just, you know, from the federal government,

00:33:43.920 they're from the provincial governments as well. So that was the biggest issue that I had that,

00:33:48.800 you know, how can we hold these people to account when we keep reelecting them? That just guarantees

00:33:55.200 that there's going to be more of it in the future, because now you just normalized all that stuff

00:34:00.640 that they did in the past and said, yeah, who cares? You know, we destroyed your small business.

00:34:05.520 Who cares if we destroyed your livelihood? Who cares if we, you know, that caused a rise in crime,

00:34:10.720 right? That caused a rise in substance abuse, because that's generally the two areas that people

00:34:17.440 gravitate towards when in tough economic times is crime and drugs, right? So, you know,

00:34:24.400 all this economic attack that our own governments have done, you know, have driven these crime

00:34:31.680 rights, have driven these, you know, these substance abuse problems. And people are like,

00:34:36.560 oh, well, okay. Oh, well, who cares? You know, he's better than the rest of them. I mean, like voting for

00:34:42.240 the best house on the worst block is how we got here to begin with. And there is no accountability from

00:34:50.080 the people to actually want change. They're just like, yeah, we'll just go along to get along.

00:34:56.080 Who cares? We'll just turn on the Netflix and, you know, tune myself out. What can I do? You know,

00:35:01.840 what can we do? There's nothing we can do. We can't change the system.

00:35:05.680 Well, it's funny that you think that because I was on a podcast last night,

00:35:08.880 an Alberta podcast with a friend, Sean Newman, who has a great podcast out there. We're talking about the

00:35:13.200 Ontario election. And they were asking, like, how come there wasn't a backlash against the insane

00:35:18.640 lockdown policies of the Doug Ford government? And my response was that I think they were popular.

00:35:23.680 I think people liked it. I think that they were happy about it. They wanted the economy to be

00:35:27.040 shut down. They were scared. They bought into all the worst fear and narratives. I mean, like,

00:35:32.560 I even in Toronto, I feel like people preferred it. It was it was strange. And for me, like,

00:35:38.480 I grew up in Western Canada. I'm from Vancouver. I have very little tolerance for policies that

00:35:43.440 restrict my personal freedom and that of my family. Like, I have a very little tolerance for it.

00:35:48.000 I am very libertarian in that way. Like, when they say you can't go outside, I will go outside.

00:35:52.240 I will not follow a stupid rule unless I absolutely have to, because I'm not willing to get arrested

00:35:56.720 over it. But the idea that they were putting police tape around the playground across the street

00:36:00.240 from my house so my kids couldn't play in a playground in the middle of the day was so absurd.

00:36:04.320 But I did feel like I was the outlier. I feel like most people in Toronto,

00:36:07.760 most people I know were just like happy to go along or they just didn't bother saying anything.

00:36:11.600 And, you know, maybe maybe because a lot of people are in this laptop class and it was easy for them,

00:36:16.080 it was actually better for them to be able to work from home or or some other reason.

00:36:20.080 Brett, what do you think? Like, like, why wasn't there a backlash against Ford for the

00:36:24.640 tyrannical overreach during COVID? That is a really tough question. I mean, you see,

00:36:30.160 you said yourself, I mean, you just showed how many people actually stayed home and didn't

00:36:34.000 turn out to vote at all. So I think a lot of those people who didn't go vote were people who didn't

00:36:39.440 like them because of a lot of the lockdowns and mandates and, you know, vaccine coercion and that

00:36:46.640 kind of stuff. And they just didn't want to show up to vote at all. So Kevin, I mean, you were talking

00:36:52.720 before about, you know, why wasn't why wasn't there a backlash against them? Why do they keep voting

00:37:00.880 these people in? Well, what's the alternative? And you know, they're really in in this election,

00:37:08.240 I believe there are two other parties that were kind of against the all the stuff that went on during

00:37:14.400 the coronavirus, I think. Well, definitely the Ontario party. And that is. Yeah, Derek Sloan

00:37:23.040 and Randy Hillier. We had them on the show earlier this week. Yeah. And then you also have New Blue.

00:37:27.840 And I'm not sure actually what their stance was during all of this. But I mean, they would be

00:37:31.920 alternatives. But I think between those two, they got less than less than 2% of the vote,

00:37:36.560 something like that. So people didn't even show up to vote for them. And why not? Is it just because

00:37:43.040 they don't get enough exposure? Are they is there need a stronger ground game? Do they need more

00:37:49.840 candidates elected? I know that this was a snap election. And that hurt a little bit for for like

00:37:57.040 the Ontario party, because they they put something together really fast, and they weren't able to put

00:38:01.760 in a full slate of candidates. So a lot of people, you know, in their own ridings, they just didn't have

00:38:06.400 an alternative to vote for. Yeah, you're right. And so it just seems I mean, we talked about the same

00:38:12.240 topic on the podcast last night, which was that the the establishment parties have so much power,

00:38:17.840 so much inertia, so much help to see in organizing and getting people on the ground,

00:38:22.800 that it that is hard for an upstart party. And yet, I think there was one little glimmer of hope.

00:38:28.240 And I want to tell the story about the unstoppable independent MP, Bobby and Brady, who was reelected

00:38:35.280 last night as an independent MPP in the riding of Haldeman Norfolk. And it wasn't even close.

00:38:42.160 Bobby and Brady received 63% of the vote 64% with rounding. In her riding, she beat the PC candidate,

00:38:51.200 Amy Martin, who only got 24%, only 12,000. So she won by more than 20,000 votes, which is really

00:38:58.480 incredible for an MPP. And I just want to tell her story because oftentimes with independent MPs,

00:39:03.600 the person is first elected with an establishment party, and then they become an independent. That's

00:39:08.800 not the case with Bobby and she was always an independent. So her story is that prior to being

00:39:14.480 elected, she worked as the executive assistant to the progressive conservative MPP in her area

00:39:20.800 named Tony Barrett. Tony was quite popular. When Tony announced that he was retiring,

00:39:26.000 he endorsed his assistant, Bobby and Brady to be the successor. And I guess party headquarters,

00:39:35.360 Doug Ford's office didn't like that. They decided that they wanted to parachute in their own

00:39:39.920 candidate of choice. They wanted to put in the local mayor as the candidate. And so Bobby and decided

00:39:46.640 to, she wasn't going to have it. So she continued to run as an independent. She won in that race in 2022,

00:39:53.600 not by as big of a margin. And she sort of acted as a thorn in the side of the PC government.

00:39:59.040 Here is a clip from the legislature. Here is Bobby and Brady pesting, pushing the premier. This is on

00:40:06.000 April 18th, 2024, pushing the premier, pushing back against him. And just note the reaction. Doug Ford

00:40:13.200 does not like this. He does not like facing criticism, particularly from someone on the political right.

00:40:19.200 And so he takes this jab at her saying, you won't even have a job after the next election. Let's play

00:40:24.320 that clip. In January, I launched a petition calling on this government to follow the lead of

00:40:30.000 Saskatchewan premier Scott Moe. No response except for carbon tax referendum legislation that does

00:40:36.400 absolutely nothing to help the people of Ontario today. It's a publicity stunt. You call that a publicity

00:40:41.920 stunt. By the way, you won't have a job next election.

00:40:50.880 Well, sorry, Doug Ford, you were wrong because she does have a job and she was reelected with a

00:40:56.720 massive, massive majority in her riding. So, I mean, to me, this is one glimmer of hope that there are

00:41:02.960 still independent minded folks in Ontario willing to push back, willing to send that message. Maybe that

00:41:07.920 little, you know, that one riding with that one strong woman, independent MP pushing back against

00:41:13.920 him on carbon taxes and cost of living issues. Maybe that is where the groundswell of support

00:41:18.960 saying, we're not actually very happy with this PC government. We don't actually like the direction

00:41:23.200 that it's taking. And in that riding, people did show up. They did show up to voice their criticisms

00:41:28.320 and possibly even push back over the COVID overreach. What's your thoughts on that? We'll go to you

00:41:34.400 first, Brett. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how many people, what the percentage of people in

00:41:40.000 her riding showed up to vote is compared to, you know, the 44% overall. I think it's great. I think

00:41:50.960 in general, we need a lot more independent, well, MPPs and MPs at the federal level. A lot of times,

00:42:00.560 people, you know, go against what they believe because they're told by the party leader how to

00:42:08.880 think and, you know, they're basically threatened with their job or not having anywhere to advance

00:42:17.200 or they're stuck on the backbench. So, and even, you know, like, for example, Pierre Polyev now,

00:42:27.120 he's a leader, but when he was an MP and he was like the shadow finance critic and all that, like he,

00:42:36.720 I'll give an example here. If you recall, during the, when, during the coronavirus, when Trudeau wanted

00:42:44.320 to go on a big spending spree where he had unlimited money, well, everybody voted unanimously to let him

00:42:51.520 do that. You know, so that ran up the deficit quite a bit and he was shadow finance critic at that point

00:42:59.120 and all we needed was one person with a backbone at that time to say, no, we can't let Trudeau go

00:43:04.240 on this spending spree. You know, just one person for, for to not be unanimous, but nobody did that.

00:43:09.600 You know, if there was an independent person out there who said, no, we can't do this. We have to vote

00:43:13.840 on this. We have to make sure that he has limits on what he can spend and what he can spend it on,

00:43:18.000 because we don't need to be spending for coronavirus pandemic. We don't need to be

00:43:23.360 taking some of that money and sending it over for women to have abortions in Africa,

00:43:28.320 which he did ridiculous things with it like that. Right. And, well, yeah. And I mean,

00:43:32.000 the one that I was really outraged about was, I think it was called Bill C4, which was basically,

00:43:36.400 it was, it was billed as something about stopping conversion therapy, but it actually did the exact

00:43:40.320 opposite. It said that if there was a gender confused child, they weren't allowed to go to any

00:43:45.280 doctor unless it was gender affirming. And that got unanimous consent. There were conservatives who

00:43:49.840 pushed back against it. They waited for some of those conservatives to go out of town and so that

00:43:54.560 they could have a vote so that the dissident voices weren't in the house. And Pierre Polyev was one of

00:43:59.280 the people who was there voting as a absolutely disgraceful. I mean, Polyev has sort of redeemed

00:44:03.840 himself coming out saying that he would ban purity blockers and all other kinds of mutilating things for

00:44:09.920 children. But you're right that, that, that at critical times, we haven't seen that independent

00:44:15.280 streak in Polyev. And I wish we had, sorry, continue. You were saying. Yeah. I mean, that's just an

00:44:20.640 example of how, you know, he, as party leader, he may have done something different, but, and now

00:44:28.400 everybody's saying, well, that was under O'Toole. He had to, and, you know, to a certain degree,

00:44:32.320 they're right. So that's, that is why we need more independent MPs. And I don't know,

00:44:39.040 I guess this is a template maybe for how to, how to do that. Right. Look at how Bobby Ann

00:44:46.240 managed to, to get so many votes, study that and see if we can replicate that somehow at other levels.

00:44:53.040 Well, I, I plan to, I want to have her on my show to explain it because to me, it's remarkable. Like,

00:44:57.040 it wasn't just a fluke the first time around, she really cemented her majority 63, 64% choosing to vote

00:45:04.400 for a non-party affiliated candidate, really something. Did you know how the voter turnout

00:45:09.840 was in her riding? I don't see that here. I will, I'll look it up. I couldn't find it easily here,

00:45:15.600 but I'll, I'll try to get those, the stats for you. Just get, just bear with me for a minute.

00:45:21.040 There, there were a couple of other notable people who were not elected last night. One of them,

00:45:26.080 another attempted independent MPP. This one kind of follows a template that I described. Our name

00:45:31.440 is Sarah Jama. She was an NDP candidate and an MPP, but the party ousted her and she basically was

00:45:38.880 becoming increasingly radical and deranged, supporting very fringe causes. And then after

00:45:44.160 the October 7th attacks, she just kind of lost it. And even, even for the radical NDP, she was too far.

00:45:49.600 So they pushed her out of the party. She ran independently. She was not reelected. And the

00:45:55.600 Liberal Party leader herself, Bonnie Crombie, who we were told was a popular mayor from Mississauga and

00:46:01.600 that she was going to help the Liberal Party pick up a bunch of seats in and around the GTA and in

00:46:06.000 Mississauga. You can take that down, Sean. Bonnie Crombie did not win her seat either. She was,

00:46:14.640 she was beat by the progressive conservative. It looks like it was fairly close, but it looks like

00:46:21.040 you know, margin of 1200 votes is full 3%. And yet in her speech, her concession speech, Bonnie

00:46:27.920 Crombie committed to staying on as leader of the Liberal Party. So, I mean, if you're, if you're a

00:46:35.440 Liberal looking at this, Liberals didn't do very well. They're not even the opposition party.

00:46:39.840 Could this possibly be a preview for the federal election and popularity Ontario? I'll

00:46:44.480 send that one over to you, Kevin. What do you think?

00:46:49.120 What Brett was talking, what Brett was talking about, you know, how the independent MP actually

00:46:54.640 managed to, to win. We, we have to study that and we have to emulate that. We have to, we have to copy

00:47:00.080 that because what it says is, you know, if you're, you know, that movie that, that Robin Williams did,

00:47:04.720 you know, 20 years ago, if you're tired of the Republicans and if you're tired of the Democrats,

00:47:08.880 you know, basically vote for me. So, you know, you need somebody who, you know, attacks, you know,

00:47:15.200 both parties and distance themselves from, you know, both parties. And, you know, maybe that is

00:47:20.000 something that, that, that she, that, that she did that, you know, really, you know, attracted people

00:47:25.760 to not only elect her, but, but, but, but to reelect her, you know, that is a winning strategy.

00:47:31.360 That's something that we should be focusing on. You know, in, in, in terms of your other

00:47:36.080 question, can you tee it up to me again? Well, I, so I just want to recap. So the,

00:47:42.080 uh, Brett, you asked what was the voter turnout in that riding in Haldeman Norfolk? Because the,

00:47:47.680 the general election was down in the forties. Well, she received 54.7, so 55% voter turnout. So a full 10%

00:47:56.160 higher than the rest of the province. So yeah, to me, that indicates that conservatives like

00:48:01.680 small C conservative voters, voters that would also support the federal conservative showed up

00:48:06.320 in that riding. And it shows you that if you organize and you motivate your base and you have

00:48:11.200 a message that appeals to them, even without the party brand, you can get those people out to vote.

00:48:16.320 So I'll, I'll leave that final question to you, Kevin. What do you, what do you make of it?

00:48:19.600 That's, that's, uh, that, that, that is 100%. You know, a lot of that 50, the 50% of the people

00:48:25.680 didn't, uh, didn't show up is because, you know, maybe they thought, oh, they're all the same.

00:48:30.000 Uh, you know, my vote doesn't count. My voice doesn't count. Uh, Doug Ford is going to win.

00:48:34.480 Um, that is probably the three primary, um, you know, excuses of the 50%. And, you know,

00:48:42.880 if 50% of the people showed up and in the, in her riding, it was closer to 60, right?

00:48:48.000 Yeah. 50, 58, 50, 50, what did I just say? 55. Sorry, 55.

00:48:53.360 Yeah. So that, that is actually a substantial increase. You know, when was the last time,

00:48:58.720 you know, the Ontario, um, you know, average voting show up for the entire province was,

00:49:03.520 it was in the mid fifties. Like you went, you, you read up the statistics, uh, earlier it's been,

00:49:08.480 it's been a very long time. So, you know, that is something that, you know, people have to do,

00:49:13.600 have to really tap into that anti, and I think it's, it's more anti establishment parties. You

00:49:20.400 know, uh, you know, I have nothing to do with the conservatives. I have nothing to do with the

00:49:24.960 liberals. I hate them all. Um, and, you know, I'm not going to answer to lobbyists. I'm not going to,

00:49:30.080 you know, pander to corporations. I'm not going to pander to the unions. Uh, and, you know, I'm going

00:49:35.280 to, you know, actually stand up and try to give, uh, the people, the voice instead of, you know,

00:49:40.640 all these, uh, NGOs and, and, and, you know, uh, political muscle that dominates the, the arena now,

00:49:47.520 just completely ignore them. And, and, and, you know, actually align yourself with the people,

00:49:53.360 the people will say, Hey, maybe you're worth voting for. And that is clearly what has happened

00:49:59.200 in this situation. Uh, and one more thing before, before we end off, you know, on the tariff issue

00:50:04.560 that I wanted to talk about, you know, the easiest concession that we could do, uh, is, um, sacrifice

00:50:10.720 our supply management system. I think that is one thing that, you know, and it's coming to the end of

00:50:15.440 the show. I really wanted to get that on. I think that would be the, the, the cheapest avenue, uh,

00:50:20.880 uh, the easiest thing to do. Uh, and it would actually, um, you know, Donald Trump has talked

00:50:28.160 about our, our, our dairy cartel for a very long time. I agree. I mean, I don't want to get too

00:50:34.080 much into it because we do have to cut off here, but I think that it's low hanging fruit and it's

00:50:39.040 time. Like Canada needs to get its house in orders. We need to stop some of the, a lot of the things

00:50:43.440 that Donald Trump says is incendiary and ridiculous, but some of the things he is, he is tapping into

00:50:49.200 real concerns. I think Canada does need to do a better job, liberalizing our markets. We need to do a

00:50:53.760 better job cracking down on drugs. We need to do a better job securing our borders. So, uh, I, I

00:50:58.320 completely agree. I guess I'll have to have you two, uh, fellows back on the show. We can talk more

00:51:02.720 about, uh, some of these issues, but thank you so much for joining me. So that has been, uh, Brett

00:51:07.440 Sears and, uh, Kevin who runs popular X account called government X is corrupt. Follow them both on

00:51:13.360 X. He's a great independent researchers and citizen journalists. So that's the end of the show.

00:51:18.160 Everyone have a wonderful weekend. Thank you for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm.

00:51:22.080 This is Candace Malcolm show. Thank you. And God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - February 28, 2025

President Trump SLAMS Pierre Poilievre

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