Quebec TV show uses children to advocate for arrest of the unvaccinated
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Summary
In this episode, we reenact a clip from a Quebec TV show where a police officer asks a group of children about getting the flu vaccine. The answer? Kids don t want to get the shot. And the government wants them to get it anyway.
Transcript
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Welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. My name is Candice Malcolm. It is great. Wait, wait a minute.
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No, this is fake. This must be fake news Friday. That was definitely not true. It is the Candice
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Malcolm Show. I'm not Candice Malcolm. That would be a horrible, horrible, horrible thing
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to have happened to the wonderful Candice Malcolm if she came on air looking like this. No,
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I am Andrew Lawton. Thank you so much for tuning in. As you know, if you are a longtime viewer and
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listener of the Candice Malcolm Show, we do things a little bit differently. At the end of the week,
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we look back at the week that was, and we point out the best and, well, often not the best, but the
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most accurate examples of media inaccuracy, perverse as that sounds. And to do so this week, we have
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True North journalist and producer Harrison Faulkner. Harrison, welcome. Good to talk to you.
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Happy to be here, Andrew. Happy to get into some more fake news stories.
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Yes, we are shining light on the darkness of the legacy media, or so often that's how it feels.
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And there's actually a few to get through. We're going to try to cover a lot of ground here in the
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time that we are doing this show. But the big one I have to start off with, and I should say,
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this is not just a Canadian fake news story at this point. This is one that has traveled around
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the globe. I've had people from, I had someone from Hungary this morning message me saying what the
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heck is going on in Canada. It is a clip from a Quebec television show on Nouveau, hosted by Julie
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Snyder. And this is one of those things where I don't think I could set it up as well as the clip
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On voyage, est-ce que vous avez vos vaccins, vous autres?
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Ah oui? Puis est-ce que vous êtes d'accord, vous autres, avec la vaccination obligatoire?
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Puis qu'est-ce qu'on devrait faire avec les gens qui veulent pas se faire vacciner?
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S'ils n'ont pas leur vaccin, ça peut mettre beaucoup de personnes en danger.
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Fait que comme le gouvernement est en train de faire en ce moment, il faut leur couper
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petite chose à petite jusqu'à temps qu'ils se donnent puis qu'ils se fassent vacciner.
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En tout cas, on a des futurs politiciens à côté de nous.
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Now, I realize that not all of you may have caught the captions.
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Harrison and I are going to walk through this here.
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Because I want you to just understand the absurdity of it.
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Because I'm the host, Harrison is stuck playing the children.
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So Julie starts off by asking these kids, and I don't know how old they are, but they
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look like they're maybe, what, eight, nine years old.
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And then there's someone else that says, it looks like I drill them because the kids
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Julie, what should we do with the people who don't want the vaccine?
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Kids, what the government does now, we should cut everything from them little by little
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It looks like we have some future politicians here.
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Now, we are both waiting with our arms outstretched for our Emmys for that performance.
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I'd like to thank Harrison and Candace, who will certainly never invite me back.
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I'm making light of it, but this was a serious point.
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The host of this show went on and not only asked kids what they should do with the unvaccinated
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and let the kids answer in a way that I assume they only got from their parents,
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then cheered them on as they said they wanted to throw the unvaccinated in jail.
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Julie Snyder has since apologized for the question, but I don't really buy it because she chose to ask that.
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And more importantly, all the people cheering it along, this is what they believe.
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Obviously, what we've known is that there's something really, really wrong going on in Quebec these days.
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The amount of pressure that they're putting on unvaccinated people,
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the language that the government is using against them, it's really disgusting.
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And here's the thing about Julie Snyder and this program she runs.
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They actually ran in September of 2020 or 2021, but months before this, they ran a segment in a classroom
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where it appears that they're the same people that were on that program, the same kids.
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And they were talking about the same sort of thing.
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They were talking about how this is what we need to do to the unvaccinated.
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We need to lock them up, keep them in their homes, and make sure that they don't spread the virus.
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So they're using kids to push the government message.
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And really, it brings up the worst imagery, as we've seen using children for propaganda.
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Obviously, there's been a lot of pushback with this story.
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And just when this story came out, when this clip kind of was translated into English and spread,
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And a petition was started to have her booted from Nuvo, which is run by Bell.
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And really, you just want to see, we need to see this stuff change.
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This is just far beyond what should be acceptable.
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Children should not be used to push the government message.
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And when you see that, you know something is really wrong.
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And some of the biggest names on Twitter, some of the biggest names in Canada, like Jordan
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Peterson, he chimed in on this and called it appalling.
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Gina Carano, who was in The Mandalorian and who's now with Daily Wire, she tweeted this
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and said, neighbors turning on neighbors, even children.
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And even True North's Cosmon, Georgia, wrote on Twitter, they stole the future of our
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children, and now they're using them to peddle their hatred, sick and deranged.
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Yeah, Cosmon's point is actually an interesting one here.
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Because I say actually, like I'm not surprised, like I'm surprised.
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But this particular one, because no child that I've heard of, and I don't have kids,
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but I've got nephews, I've got friends who have kids, I've known kids, I read what parents
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No kids are happy to be out of school right now.
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So the idea that these kids are like the most lockdown, happy, restriction, happy kids in
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the world, like I hope that they aren't representative of a larger group.
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That other clip you mentioned from September, we have here.
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But basically, as Harrison said, it's one of the girls in question says, the pandemic
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means we have to lock up people in their homes, because if not, they will start to talk and
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touch each other, and they will give each other the virus and then give it to others
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and others, which just means that everyone will get it, and many people will die.
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And she's saying it with a smile, like a good student.
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But basically, these children have been programmed to believe and recite.
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And the French media in Quebec, Nouveau, is fueling this, that if you don't lock people
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in their homes or jail the unvaccinated, that there's just going to be like mass casualties.
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Like, I don't like when I see kids at protests.
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I don't like when I see kids that are forced into situations where they're making a point
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because people think if a kid makes it, they're going to be like, oh, that's so cute,
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But what's happening here is you've got legacy media that are fueling that very dynamic.
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And, you know, speaking of Bell, speaking of Nouveau, which is run by Bell, CTV News,
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also owned by Bell, they had a little moment last week, I believe it was, that we need to
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They ran a segment called Week in Review, in which they basically spent the entire time
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criticizing Spotify, who owned the Joe Rogan podcast.
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They were criticizing Spotify for not censoring Joe Rogan, because recently, Joe Rogan, as
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I'm sure most of you know, did an interview with Dr. Robert Malone, and it has been watched
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It's really one of the most popular podcasts of all time.
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And to give you some context here, a group of 200 plus doctors, they, I say doctors, they're
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It turns out that the majority of them are not direct medical providers or not even legally
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And nearly 100 of them hold PhDs, not medical degrees.
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And they basically criticized Spotify for not censoring Joe Rogan.
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One of these guests is this no-name podcast host, Neil Headley.
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And the other one is a morning radio host here in Toronto.
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I want to play this clip because it really shows you just how convinced and focused the legacy
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media are in censoring any kind of conversation that goes against the legacy media narrative
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on COVID that could potentially lead those people to have a difference of opinion on vaccines.
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But here's the thing about Joe Rogan is Joe Rogan, much like your, let's pick a major fast food
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And this is from the inside on the podcast industry side.
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Joe Rogan makes really tasty garbage, like so many of the fast food chains do.
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It's stuff that's not good for you, but people consume it en masse.
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I actually listened to Joe Rogan's podcast, even though it's not healthy.
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I listened to it, and I know a lot of people listen to it, and I know it's so popular.
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The likelihood that they'll do something, I don't think very likely, but they need to.
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They need to because, unfortunately, because COVID has been so politicized, it's been allowed
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If this was like the AIDS crisis, you could not possibly go on the air and spread this information.
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If this was cancer, tuberculosis, any other crisis that didn't have politics around it,
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you couldn't do it because it would be false, it'd be offensive, and it'd be dangerous.
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But COVID got politicized, and now you can say all these really wild things about it,
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and people will actually believe it and defend it.
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And it's crazy because people are dying and getting sick around it.
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Do you hear a lot of COVID misinformation when you listen?
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They'll have these debates around the ivermectin and, oh, I've got the T cells, and I've got immunity.
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And it's all these debates, and it's like a lot of it's just not the facts from real.
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You know, they'll have doctors who are coming on and trying to have competing.
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Sanjay Gupta was on there the other day competing with Joe Rogan.
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You know, so, you know, it's a lot of debates, but some of the information just should not be
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The first is from this Headley, this Neil Headley, who runs this podcast, which no one
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He says, the thing about Joe Rogan is that he makes really tasty garbage.
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It's stuff that's not good for you, but people consume it en masse.
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And then this other quote from Jamar McNeil, he says, I listen to the Joe Rogan podcast.
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Even though it's not healthy, COVID got politicized, and now people can say whatever they want
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And he says, and he goes on to say, actually, what makes Joe Rogan's podcast problematic
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is that there are a lot of debates, and it's not just the facts.
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So apparently, Andrew, having debates with people from both sides of an opinion is wrong.
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Yeah, I mean, there's a lot to this, because on one hand, I believe that, you know, TV should
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be able to have the debate that they're having about whether someone should be listened to
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But when you start saying so-and-so should be deplatformed, which was really the premise
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of this panel, that Joe Rogan should not have distribution, his podcast should not exist
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on Spotify, they're saying that we believe that we are the gatekeepers of who deserves
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And Joe Rogan has an audience that the vast majority of Canadian media outlets would absolutely
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just, you know, give their left kidney and their firstborn for.
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He has a lot more legitimacy than most legacy media.
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Just because you have more listeners doesn't mean you're more right, doesn't mean your facts
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If you want to go up against Joe Rogan, start refuting.
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But you're only able to unlock the truth through that process of debate, not through silencing
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And it's very rich coming from a legacy media outlet to have this discussion about who doesn't
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deserve an audience, who doesn't deserve to be heard.
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Well, whether you like it or not, audiences are not choosing you.
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Is CTV telling us that they couldn't find one person to defend Joe Rogan?
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They couldn't find one person on this panel or in Canada to defend Joe Rogan having the
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One in which, as you said, so many people just love.
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You get one-sided opinion and political opinion at that versus Joe Rogan, who has different
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guests of different opinions, different guests of different experiences, and they cover all
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So really, it's no surprise that Rogan has the audience he does and that CTV has a dwindling
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And again, I don't want to just pick entirely on Bell Media here.
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In fact, even across the border, this story needs to be mentioned here.
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The Wall Street Journal, who generally I find is pretty good on economic issues and on
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So this one really surprised me, wrote a very lengthy story in which they talked about Canada's
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And if you were reading through it, you'd get basically the impression that this was just
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the worst thing in the world, the Canadian energy sector.
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That was how a lot of the so-called facts that they were talking about in this article,
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which you can see up here, one of the world's dirtiest oil patches is pumping more than
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ever, are ripped right out of the environmental activist playbook.
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Now, whether that's just because that's what the reporter believes or that's just the only
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But I want to go through this because one of my big frustrations here is that a lot of
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the things in there are very demonstrably combated.
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Like one of the claim in the article is, as you see in the headline there, that this is
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So what we do know is that emissions, if we start using all of these terms that are supposed
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to be good to the environmental left, emissions have decreased by over a quarter since 2013.
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And global production has gone down by less than half of that.
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And more importantly, oil sands producers have all linked arms and said, we're going to go
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So they're doing exactly what all industry is being told to do by the folks that, you
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There is also, I mean, this one's just basic math.
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And I have to give credit, the Canadian Energy Center found this number.
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The article says the oil sands cover an 88,000 square mile area in Northeast Alberta.
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And you may think that's not all that relevant, but it is because if you can misrepresent by,
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you know, 60%, the size of the area you're crapping on, then surely what else are you missing
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out and on and misrepresenting would be the question I'd ask.
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And incidentally, only 3% of that area is ever used for oil sands mining.
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Another fact here that was put out that's not true, that oil sands and tailing ponds are,
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quote, arguably the most visible human scars on the planet, unquote.
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Now, again, the Canadian Energy Center did a lot of the research here, but you can verify
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You could quite easily look up these numbers and challenge them, which it does not seem
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The tailings, settling basins and the oil sands are covering 175 square kilometers.
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If you compare it with China, which is the beneficiary of a lot of the production that we don't do
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domestically, has its Three Gorges Dam, which includes a 386 square mile artificial lake
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So, I mean, these may seem like abstractions, but the point is you can't say this is one
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of the worst in the world when you can quite easily point elsewhere in the world and say,
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And also producers have spent $10 billion collectively to reduce this very problem.
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So in Canada, when the industry is left alone, it comes up with solutions to all of these
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And then there's also this one here in the article, that investment in existing oil
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stands projects has stalled and banks are refusing to fund new ones.
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Certainly the carbon tax, other government measures.
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There is some move towards divestment, they call it.
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Activists encouraging banks to not finance anything in the energy sector.
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So what's happening is Alberta's oil production last year reached a record and is still growing.
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There were probably some other numbers I missed there.
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To be honest, even the commas were probably not in the right places.
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But yeah, amazing how diligently they fact check the energy sector, which would seem to be
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And here's the thing, Andrew, if this story was written about perhaps an energy or oil
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patch somewhere else outside of Canada or outside of the United States, I can almost
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guarantee that Reuters, AP, the fact checkers would come out and slap a fact check on this
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We found four facts that the article brought up, but it's a lengthy article.
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So there's probably some that we missed in there.
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And so, yeah, I just wonder, when will Aramco and the other oil producers in the Middle East
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commit to the same emissions targets and emissions reduction targets as the Canadian
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And like you said, where are the fact checkers?
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Where are the others that like to so often come down on news that they don't find to be
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factual, when in reality, most of the time, it's just political news they don't like?
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And just as we close things out here, I want to point out that we also like to give credit
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As a longtime viewer of Fake News Friday, I know that CBC is a preferred target in the
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But this is a week where CBC mistakenly, I think, got it right.
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If you watch CBC's Instagram, which I don't know why, but if, if you do, I'm doing the hard
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You may have seen they actually gave some advice on how to prepare for COVID.
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And this was like a rare example of non-fake COVID news here and non-paranoia.
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CBC says, experts say most Canadians will get exposed to the virus at some point.
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Here's how to make the isolation and illness a little easier if you get sick.
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They say you should prepare for COVID-19 infection by keeping on top of chores so you're not
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dealing with them well sick because you're shoveling the driveway might be challenging
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if you've got the Omicron or some other variation of COVID.
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So you should make your bed and shovel your driveway and do whatever else when you can
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And then stocking up on soups, decaf teas, honey, lemon, and lime to help nourish yourself
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And purchasing lozenges in case you get a sore throat.
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Nothing in here about ICUs, nothing about ventilators, nothing about not being able to
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They're saying all you need to do to weather COVID right now is do your chores, buy some
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This is honestly how most people with the Omicron variant are getting by.
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But this doesn't jive with other CBC coverage, even pretty recently about COVID.
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And yeah, like the CBC, they're basically the, they're our punching bag on Fake News Friday.
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If we're short one week, we can just jump onto the CBC and find something last minute.
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So for our story this week, we were able to find something that I'm sure the editors
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But yeah, this is coming from the same CBC that just this month published two opinion
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They call them kind of first person when, when they have a doctor write about their experiences.
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Just for example, this was, I think a week ago or a week or two ago, and they wrote,
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they published an article called, this is what a 16 hour hospital shift looks like for me
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And this doctor who I'm sure has a very difficult job and a job that we all thank, thank her to do.
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But she writes, despite being entrenched on the front lines of the pandemic for two years,
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Thankfully, people are less sick this time around due to vaccination and property of this new
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Nevertheless, because it is so contagious, the sheer volume of people who are sick is that
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So like you said, it's definitely jive with the typical CBC editorial position of fear
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mongering and pumping up the concern around Omicron.
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And I guess apparently someone decided that actually, no, it's not that bit, not that bad.
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We'll just, we'll just treat it with lozenges and tea.
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And there was another story that I liked as well, which again, runs directly counter to
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what the Instagram department at CBC is coming out with.
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They say, how to build resilience when there's no end in sight to the pandemic.
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So on one hand, there's no end in sight, but on the other hand, all you need is tea and
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Now, whichever side you're on, the fact that these two conflicting narratives are being
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published by CBC means inherently one of them has to be fake news.
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I know which one I think it is, but you can decide for yourselves.
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That does it for this edition of Fake News Friday on this January 21st, 2022.
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My thanks to Harrison Faulkner for coming along here.
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Candace Malgan will be back in her rightful place next week, but it's been a pleasure, everyone.