In this episode of The Candace Malan Show, Candace talks about the recent Supreme Court of Canada sentencing of two anti-Semitic rioters in relation to the Emergencies Act, and how it affects our freedom of speech and expression. She also talks about Pierre Polyev's tweet about investing in Bitcoin.
00:00:00.000This is the Candace Malcolm Show. My name is Chris Sims. I'm the Alberta Director for the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:00:09.000Thank you so much for joining us. Candace, of course, will be back in her hot seat starting tomorrow.
00:00:15.000We've got a lot to cover on this show. This show, I would like to say, is fundamentally about things like freedom of expression.
00:00:24.000Because, of course, if you don't have freedom of speech or freedom of expression, you can't protest the government.
00:00:30.000You can't defend yourself against the state. You can't speak truth to power.
00:00:35.000That's one of the reasons the Canadian Taxpayers Federation was fighting so vehemently against things like Bill C-11,
00:00:42.000which was, of course, an attempt to censor our expression online. That, unfortunately, passed into law.
00:00:48.000And we've got another big monstrous bill called Bill C-63, which could again curtail your right to free expression.
00:00:56.000Because if you're at the Taxpayers Federation, how soon will it be that we can't put a bunch of pink pig statues, right,
00:01:05.000all across the lawn of Parliament Hill? We call politicians pigs at the trough all the time.
00:01:11.000So if you can't properly express yourself and protest the government freely without fear, then you don't have free expression.
00:01:21.000And on the other side of this vice grip, if you picture it, okay, on one side, we've got online censorship, crackdown on free expression.
00:01:29.000On the other side, we have this monster of government funded media.
00:01:34.000Okay, we've got the CBC, which is, of course, government funded media by definition.
00:01:38.000But we have a huge portion of mainstream media, which is now also on government payroll.
00:01:45.000If you break it down like the folks at Black Locks Reporter do, who don't take a cent from government,
00:01:49.000they do great independent investigative journalism.
00:01:52.000If you break it down, it works out to close to $30,000 per media company employee for government funding and subsidies and stuff.
00:02:01.000So this is a huge vice grip on your ability to freely express yourselves, including calling for things like lower taxes, less waste and damn well more accountable government.
00:02:12.000So this is why shows like this are super important.
00:02:15.000Speaking of free expression, we've got some breaking news here, and I really wanted to highlight this for you because it just hit online.
00:02:22.000It's on X, it's on Twitter. Let's pull up Pierre Polyev's tweet here.
00:02:26.000Investing is all about the future. So what do you think is going to happen?
00:02:31.000Bitcoin is sort of inevitable at this point.
00:02:33.000I think it would come down to precious metals.
00:02:58.000Quote. So this is, of course, in relation to the sentencing hearing that is happening this week in Ottawa.
00:03:03.000We had to highlight this because, of course, it's connected to what went down with the Emergencies Act.
00:03:08.000Quote. Let's get this straight. While rampant violent offenders are released hours after their most recent charges and anti-Semitic rioters vandalize businesses, terrorize daycares and block traffic without consequences,
00:03:20.000the Crown wants seven years prison time for the charge of mischief for a leech and barber.
00:03:28.000So Polyev, of course, doesn't have a seat in Parliament right now.
00:03:31.000He's campaigning for that seat during a by-election out here in Alberta, not too far here from Crowsfoot.
00:03:37.000I think I've actually got my cousins up there in Stetler.
00:03:40.000So he's campaigning. He's out on the campaign trail.
00:03:43.000So he just stopped to tweet this out because, of course, a lot of people are remembering what was going on during the lockdowns,
00:03:50.000and especially from the taxpayers' perspective, the Emergencies Act.
00:03:55.000People might remember what happened during the protest in Ottawa is that the government passed the Emergencies Act,
00:04:02.000which is a new reincarnation of the War Measures Act.
00:04:05.000Why does that matter to average people?
00:04:08.000Well, bank accounts got frozen by the government.
00:04:11.000And this is a problem because this can stem into a chilling effect for other advocacy organizations,
00:04:18.000for other peaceful protest groups who are standing up to the government.
00:04:22.000If you start allowing for the government to impose the Emergencies Act when it feels like it,
00:04:28.000then we start running into major problems of not being able to speak truth to power and to hold government to account.
00:04:34.000That's why it was so interesting when at the federal court level, Justice Mosley said,
00:04:40.000No, the Emergencies Act invocation that happened in Ottawa and across Canada, frankly, was unconstitutional.
00:04:47.000We'll be getting back to that very soon.
00:04:49.000But again, if you zero in on what we're dealing with in Canada right now,
00:04:54.000it is the vice grip on one side of online censorship.
00:04:59.000So things like Bill C-11 and the so-called Online Harms Act of Bill C-63,
00:05:04.000which is threatening online expression if it's brought back into Parliament.
00:05:08.000And on the other side, we've got government funded media.
00:05:12.000And a reminder, the CBC is taking $1.4 billion from taxpayers this year.
00:05:20.000To put that kind of money into perspective, that kind of money could pay the full-time salaries of about 7,000 paramedics plus 7,000 police officers just this year.
00:09:40.000And it's always a pleasure to talk to you, Chris.
00:09:42.000So our group was one of the organizations that challenged the Justin Trudeau government's invocation of the Emergencies Act,
00:09:49.000an extraordinary piece of legislation that allows the cabinet to make new criminal law by executive order.
00:09:56.000We challenged the use of that in response to the 2022 Freedom Convoy, which the Rouleau Commission found was notable for its lack of violence.
00:10:06.000We challenged that in federal court, and Justice Mosley at federal court found that the high threshold to invoke the Emergencies Act had not been met,
00:10:16.000that there was no threat to the security of Canada, which is part of that standard, that its use was unreasonable.
00:10:24.000And he found that the regulations created under the Emergencies Act, which included the prohibitions on gatherings across the country, not just in downtown Ottawa, where those protests had went on for quite a while,
00:10:39.000that these gatherings were across Canada were now criminalized and the regulations freezing bank accounts of around 200 Canadians.
00:10:51.000Justice Mosley found that those were unconstitutional, that those violated the charter rights of Canadians.
00:10:56.000This was a massive win for civil liberties in Canada that our organization had spearheaded, and we were thrilled with the result.
00:11:05.000Obviously, the Trudeau government was not thrilled with the result.
00:11:09.000They announced their intention to appeal within, I think, you know, 13 minutes, maybe less of the decision, the 200 page decision coming out.
00:11:19.000So then obviously not really possible to have even read the whole thing before deciding they disagreed with it because it held them accountable.
00:11:27.000And so the appeal was heard in February in Toronto at the federal court of appeal on a three judge panel.
00:11:35.000That appeal went on for two days and we're still awaiting the decision.
00:11:38.000Typically, it takes about six months for a decision to come out.
00:11:41.000But we do think because this is the first time this extraordinary piece of legislation has ever been used,
00:11:47.000that it will take a little bit longer than the six months we usually expect.
00:11:52.000And also, this is a federal court matter or federal court of appeal matter.
00:11:56.000So you add in a little bit of time because they translate these decisions and release them at the same time in English and in French.
00:13:08.000It shows the importance of public interest litigation by groups, charities like the CCF, because if we hadn't brought this,
00:13:16.000I don't think that we would have had the result we had today.
00:13:19.000I mean, Justice Mosley basically said as much in his decision.
00:13:22.000And it's very validating to hear that from a judge.
00:13:25.000We often get decisions we don't like from the courts.
00:13:28.000And this one really for us was something we're really proud of.
00:13:33.000But but more than that, it was the right decision and it guaranteed these really core rights that Canadians have.
00:13:40.000This is a really, really huge piece of legislation that that is so easy to abuse.
00:13:46.000It's it's in emergency situations that governments tend to overreact and grab more power and do things that violate civil liberties.
00:13:56.000Emergencies are generally the greatest threat to civil liberties of anything that can happen.
00:14:01.000It's when governments do these kinds of things.
00:14:04.000So we really need to make it clear what this legislation can do.
00:14:08.000And that the Emergencies Act, keep in mind, replaced another piece of legislation.
00:14:13.000The War Measures Act that had been abused by Justin Trudeau's own father, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, during the October crisis.
00:14:20.000And not to downplay what happened in the October crisis.
00:14:25.000I mean, there there was violence, including a murder.
00:14:30.000But nothing that happened in the convoy rose to the level of what happened during the the abuse of the War Measures Act in the October crisis, where hundreds of people were arrested.
00:14:44.000People were detained without habeas corpus.
00:14:46.000And the court that I mean, the outcome in the War Measures Act was everyone sort of agrees that that piece of legislation was over the top, that its use was overkill.
00:14:58.000And the Emergencies Act was created in response to that.
00:15:01.000It came with all these bells and whistles and thresholds and things that the government needed to do to demonstrate its use against civilians in a public order emergency was justified.
00:15:11.000And Trudeau's son, Justin Trudeau, just blew through all of that.
00:15:18.000So much so that there was opposition from within his own party.
00:15:22.000I know a lot of us were talking in what I would call the freedom movement or small, more accountable government movement at the time.
00:15:28.000And there was a lot of dissension in the ranks, even in the Senate.
00:15:31.000So like that was not a very comfortable situation, to put it mildly.
00:15:34.000I wanted to briefly touch on something quickly before we move on to Bill C-63, that it doesn't even need to be something as dramatic and frightening as getting your bank account frozen for a government to try to take advantage of emergencies.
00:15:47.000We just recently saw the provincial government in British Columbia try something kind of mundane, but which would have really hurt taxpayers and voters in British Columbia.
00:15:56.000And that was basically saying something to the effect of, oh, well, the tariff war is like a real war.
00:16:02.000And so it's an emergency. And so we should be able to basically do whatever we want, including major spending bills with no oversight in the legislature in Victoria, just using the emergency cloak as an ability to override people's rights.
00:16:18.000And so to your point exactly, Christine, it's when the government starts talking about declaring an emergency that the average person really needs to be careful and watch them like hawks, because that's usually a dinner bell where they're going to try to grab more power and ultimately take more of your money.
00:16:35.000I wanted to move to Bill C-63 here because everybody's in kind of the summer mode.
00:16:40.000You know, Pierre Polyev doesn't have a seat right now. They're all waiting to see what happens at the by-election.
00:16:45.000To me, this kind of feels like, you know, the phony war moment. They haven't quite gotten down to brass tacks.
00:16:50.000If and when this all comes back together in the fall, as people are expecting it to, where is Bill C-63?
00:16:57.000Like for a quick reminder for people, when we last left off, correct me if I'm wrong, Bill C-63 was this weird chimeric hybrid,
00:17:06.000where on one side it was about online harms and protecting children against images of childhood sexual abuse online.
00:17:13.000Also some really crazy stuff that people are doing with deep fakes, which is super disturbing.
00:17:19.000But next to it was this strange sort of, you know, futuristic sort of minority report-esque thing of like,
00:17:28.000if you say something online that offends another person, they can anonymously report you and you can be put under house arrest for it.
00:17:35.000Like the other part of that bill sounded so far-fetched to me that I had trouble believing what I was reading.
00:17:42.000Where are we with this bill? Is there a chance Carney could just like squelch it and not bring it back?
00:19:30.000The other issue in the criminal law amendments was that sort of minority report issue that you had described.
00:19:37.000So what this involved were peace bonds, which is sort of a prior restraint on an individual that restrains them from doing some future act.
00:19:47.000And if there were, if a member of the public believed some person was going to commit some future hate speech offense, they could apply to the, I think it's the Attorney General, who could then have a peace bond applied to this individual to do all kinds of things that restrain that person from doing things, including house arrest or ankle monitors and things like that.
00:20:14.000For a speech offense that they have not even committed, but that they might commit in the future.
00:20:21.000We obviously have problems with that type of that type of thing.
00:20:25.000Now, the second part of the online harms bill related to regulations of online platforms that would have put obligations on platforms for things like online hate speech or online bullying, which have this risk of, first of all, would have created a whole new, huge, giant bureaucracy at a time when this government's bureaucracy is already absolutely out of control.
00:20:53.000And then it would have created a chilling effect on these platforms.
00:20:58.000So all kinds of speech that might not rise to the level of hatred or a hate crime, but which is objectionable, which frankly is a lot of speech that you see online, might get proactively taken down by platforms because of their fear of financial penalty by this new giant regulator.
00:21:16.000Now, the third part of Bill 63 was the child protection provisions, which deal with higher penalties and new reporting obligations for child sexual abuse imagery, which I think everyone agrees would have passed ununanimous consent if that part of the bill had been split off.
00:21:35.000I think the conservatives had said that they would have voted to support that.
00:21:39.000I don't think any of us at the civil liberties movement disagree with that.
00:21:44.000I think child welfare and child protection is something that's incredibly important.
00:21:49.000I think that this government, if they had been actually serious about protecting children, they would have just split this part of the bill off and had it passed by itself without tying it to these controversial and probably unconstitutional aspects of the bill.
00:22:05.000And also they might just put child sex offenders in jail and stop enacting legislation or doing things that allow for lower sentences for child sex abusers.
00:22:19.000Big time. And to your point exactly, I've been in the game for a long time.
00:22:23.000I've been a staffer, been a reporter, mostly worked as a court reporter.
00:22:28.000And what got me when this first came out, other than obviously the huge chilling effect that I would say this would have on free expression.
00:22:35.000And again, if you can't speak up for yourself, including things like criticizing the government, like we use pig statues.
00:22:54.000The other part that that struck me was just how disingenuous and calculating it was to tack on protecting children to an otherwise really problematic law, proposed law.
00:23:07.000I don't know anyone who doesn't want tougher crimes, at least tougher sentencing, tougher consequences for people who hurt kids.
00:23:17.000I remember back when I was at Sun News Network and then the prime minister of the day, Stephen Harper, had mandatory minimums for things like child sexual abuse.
00:23:26.000And I think the mandatory minimum for an adult sexually abusing a child was something crazy.
00:23:31.000It was like 12 months or like 18 months.
00:23:34.000And people were still freaking out about the fact that there is even a mandatory minimum.
00:23:39.000So to turn around and have the same sort of crowd say, oh, well, this is all about protecting children while we're threatening your right to free expression.
00:23:48.000I just found that really disingenuous.
00:23:53.000It's to inoculate themselves against criticism for their otherwise unconstitutional bill so they can hold up the child protective aspects of the bill and say, but think about the children.
00:24:04.000This bill is about protecting children when really they are using abused children as a shield for their unconstitutional censorship law.
00:24:15.000I mean, pass the part of the bill that relates to children and drop the rest of it.
00:24:21.000And in fact, that was where the government, the Trudeau government was heading when this was when Parliament was prorogued.
00:24:28.000They dropped the first part of the bill, the criminal law provisions, but they kept the rest of it.
00:24:34.000The the the online regulation bureaucracy problems were still going to be there, but at least they dropped the criminal provisions.
00:24:42.000Frankly, I think that the Carney government, I don't know that they want to spend political capital on that when the Trudeau government really took a beating from civil liberties groups over it across the spectrum.
00:24:55.000There are civil liberties groups on on the on the left and on the right and on the center who all disagreed with those criminal law changes.
00:25:03.000I think that the Carney government might introduce something related to bubble zones.
00:25:09.000So I don't think they've talked about that. It was in their platform.
00:25:12.000Those are likely unconstitutional laws that they're, you know, sort of flirting with and considering introducing.
00:25:19.000So I don't think that they are a free speech party, this government.
00:25:23.000But I think that those criminal prohibitions that were contemplated in C63, my sincere hope is that they are dead and are not coming back.
00:25:32.000I was just wanted to touch on that quickly.
00:25:35.000A friend of mine called Trudeau's bills like this, his ideology vision quest that he was on in many, in many cases, an ideological quest.
00:25:44.000I don't see Carney as the same sort of cat.
00:25:47.000Now he's got a horrendous plan to blow the budget.
00:25:50.000He's got a horrendous plan to pile on the debt.
00:25:52.000There's a whole lot of issues we have with him trying to ban the sale of regular cars and trucks.
00:25:56.000There's a billion things that I'd criticize him on.
00:25:59.000But my sense from him is that he's a bit more pragmatic.
00:26:04.000That he doesn't, to your point, want to spend a lot of political capital on this.
00:26:08.000Do you think that there's, if you were a betting lady, would you bet that he's going to just introduce the child protection elements within the criminal code and adjustment under the justice ministry and leave the rest of this out?
00:26:22.000I think that he's going to introduce legislation on bubble zones, which is a different issue on free speech.
00:26:28.000I don't think he's going to reintroduce the criminal code prohibitions on hate speech, but I could be wrong.
00:26:34.000I just don't have enough information about Mark Carney and what he believes on freedom of expression issues to have any sense of where he's going to go.
00:26:44.000He just seems like the type who has a belief that you should do what's right and proper and just be nice and don't offend people.
00:26:54.000And unfortunately, that's not a very free speech orientation because the whole point of freedom of expression is that you can say things that bother people and that upset people and that offend people.
00:27:06.000Even if it is not consistent with, you know, elite British sensitive sensibility.
00:27:13.000Yes, we have to be able to offend people. I really wanted to quickly touch on what's going on in Ottawa this week with sentencing.
00:27:21.000And I know that your group is not representing an individual here, but you guys did, again, amazing work fighting the Emergencies Act.
00:27:28.000Your book, Pandemic Panic, again, is a must read for anybody who's freedom oriented.
00:27:33.000Did you have any thoughts on what's going on here with the proposals of like a seven year prison sentence for a possible mischief conviction?
00:27:41.000Just in my personal experience being a court reporter, I don't remember there being an actual sentencing for mischief.
00:27:49.000However, I have heard it threatened before because in the criminal code, there is kind of a hefty sentencing provision in there for mischief convictions.
00:27:58.000Did you have any thoughts on what's going on in Ottawa?
00:28:01.000I know we have to be careful because, again, it is before the courts.
00:28:04.000And I would advise everybody to be a little bit more careful with how they're talking about this before sentencing happens.
00:28:09.000Yeah. So you're alluding to the sentencing of Tamara Leach or Leach.
00:28:23.000I just broadly would say that a first time offender with a low likelihood to reoffend on a charge of mischief seven years seems just pretty bonkers as a request.
00:28:38.000I just don't see the rationale for that.
00:28:54.000I think anybody who's been a court reporter, again, who sat there and watched, I mean, I've seen like repeat arsonists just walk out of court.
00:29:04.000I encourage people, by the way, it is your right as an individual and as a citizen to peacefully sit in and watch most court cases.
00:29:11.000A lot of people don't know that, but it is absolutely your right to sit in the public gallery so long as it's not in camera and there's a special thing.
00:30:06.000So for background, so people understand there's something called the naturalized garden movement.
00:30:11.000And these are people who have a different aesthetic preference.
00:30:15.000They don't want their front lawn or their back lawn to look like a manicured rose garden or rose of hydrangeas or something that is more typical of what you would see in a suburban residential garden.
00:30:33.000They like their garden to look like a forest or a meadow or just embracing the native plants that grow in their community rather than importing plants from another place.
00:30:46.000That this ended up creating an environment for native wildlife, for butterflies, dragonflies and a habitat that is good for the environment.
00:30:59.000And this type of gardening is it's an aesthetic preference, but it's also a political viewpoint about ecology, about the environment, about human beings interaction with the environment.
00:31:11.000And there are a series of cases related to, you know, nosy neighbors who don't like the wildflower meadow that grows beside their rows of hydrangeas.
00:31:23.000And so a lot of cities have bylaws about tall grass and weeds.
00:31:28.000And there are a series of cases where municipalities have enforced those bylaws by coming onto that private property and ripping out the garden, mowing it all down, cutting the whole thing down.
00:31:39.000And one of the first cases is from the 1990s involving a woman named Sandy Bell.
00:31:45.000The bylaw at issue, the Toronto bylaw at issue in that case was found to be a violation of the charter, that her garden is an expression of her belief about what is beautiful and about about nature.
00:32:00.000And her beliefs were not harming anyone in any way.
00:32:03.000Her growing her golden rod and milkweed was not interfering with anyone else's safety.
00:32:09.000And we have a similar situation now in Mississauga with a homeowner named Wolf Ruck, who has had his garden reported by an anonymous neighbor multiple times.
00:32:24.000I think three years in a row now have have twice mowed it down and are trying to mow it down a third time.
00:32:30.000And it's all about your aesthetic taste.
00:32:34.000It's all about imposing what the government thinks is beautiful onto another person's property, his private property that he owns, that he has spent years trying to cultivate this sort of wild meadow habitat for animals, insects and native plants.
00:32:56.000So we intervened in his case at Superior Court to challenge this bylaw and stand up for Wolf's right to express himself and his beliefs about what's beautiful.
00:33:08.000The city even said that the purpose of this bylaw is about aesthetic beauty and no one gets to decide what's beautiful.
00:33:45.000Thank goodness I'm in Lethbridge, God's country.
00:33:47.000Imagine if somebody tried to tell you what to do with your property in Lethbridge.
00:33:50.000Like it's full of clover and wild flowers and corn flowers, those little blue ones because it's native prairie and some prairie grass, lots of water for the birds.
00:34:12.000I walk around my neighborhood and I love my neighbor's yards.
00:34:15.000I just really think it's important personally to support bees, especially, and native birds.
00:34:21.000The irony is that these governments have their own policies promoting this.
00:34:26.000But then like the the the boulevards have this exact type of this exact style of garden with milkweed and goldenrod and tall grasses like on Wolfe's property.
00:34:38.000It's their own policy, their pollinator friendly garden policy.
00:34:41.000And there are fields throughout these cities, including Mississauga with an uncut grass and wild meadows.
00:34:50.000But only when a nosy neighbor complains does it get enforced on his private property, which, by the way, he's then sent a bill for a few thousand dollars to pay for this work that destroyed his property.
00:35:09.000And just leave this man alone and let him grow his plants.
00:35:13.000This makes me so friggin mad because I will bet you that Mississauga has not had a huge property tax cut, you know, descending over the last 10 years out on a limb here.
00:35:24.000Like this is why people get so mad at local government.
00:35:27.000We generally expect our local governments to keep our streets safe and in good repair.
00:35:48.000Like what's the where is it in the meandering court case labyrinth?
00:35:52.000Yeah, so it we we actually have intervened twice now.
00:35:55.000So we went to the Court of Appeal where it was kicked back to lower court.
00:36:01.000And we were heard two weeks ago, I think now at Superior Court where we intervene to argue about these freedom of expression issues.
00:36:11.000So we argued in our intervention that a government claiming that it has standards for aesthetic beauty on your property is not a valid purpose for a law to limit your rights.
00:36:26.000The government needs to be limiting them for what's called a valid public purpose.
00:36:55.000They're trying to come on your property and say, we don't like your garden and we're going to come and cut it down and then charge you for it.
00:37:28.000I haven't made a formal announcement yet, but I'll tell your viewers because I think that they'd be really interested in this.
00:37:33.000So we have a book coming out this fall, September 2nd, about freedom of expression and it's for children.
00:37:40.000And it sort of tells the story of it's based on these garden stories.
00:37:46.000So it's about a little girl who wants to grow a garden and the city comes and cuts it down and then she tries to protest and the city tells her she's not allowed to protest.
00:37:55.000She tries to go to city hall and they tell her she can't have a sign in city council chambers.
00:38:01.000We've been working on some litigation about that as well.
00:38:04.000She tries to put up posters around the city and the city says that's not allowed either.
00:38:09.000These are all based on real Canadian case law about freedom of expression.
00:38:13.000And in the end, the court sides with her and says that you have a right to freedom of expression that's guaranteed under the Charter and the government can't interfere with that in a way that isn't justified.
00:38:26.000And it's illustrated by a Canadian artist who I actually grew up with, who had her own sort of as an artist cancellation attempts against her.
00:38:37.000So she really understands the importance of freedom of expression in in our culture.
00:38:43.000The great irony is trying to cancel an artist, right, who are supposed to be the in the industry where you can speak truth to power and coming at you for expression, expressing yourself and trying to have you canceled for expressing yourself as an artist is especially egregious.
00:39:00.000But it's beautifully, beautifully illustrated. And the reason I wanted to write this book is because my husband's American.
00:39:09.000I'll go to the United States sometimes and we'll go to a historic site. And, you know, when you exit through the gift shop, you always walk through and you see all these different items for children about America's rich constitutional history.
00:39:22.000And these are books, picture books for children that are in every American museum shop.
00:39:28.000And we in Canada have an incredibly rich constitutional history and incredible case law and protections for free expression.
00:39:37.000And we should embrace that and celebrate it and teach our children about these protections from an early age.
00:39:43.000I'm so thrilled that I have an opportunity to do that with this new children's book.
00:39:47.000So it's called Maple's Garden and it's going to launch on September 2nd and you can preorder it on Amazon right now.
00:39:55.000So if you search up Maple's Garden on Amazon, you'll find it.
00:39:59.000And yeah, if you buy it and help me out, we might end up on the Toronto Star bestseller list like Pandemic Panic.
00:40:08.000My last book did much, I think, perhaps the chagrin of the star.
00:40:14.000But I think people of every persuasion need to understand the value of freedom of expression, starting with children.
00:41:20.000OK, we have to support organizations that matter because the government is funding organizations quite often who are on the other side of these sorts of issues.
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