The Candice Malcolm Show - The authoritarian left is not happy with the CBC

00:00:00.320 Authoritarian leftists in Canada are not happy. Why? Because the CBC in Quebec dared to do

00:00:06.720 something that CBC English would never do. They told the truth about rapid onset gender dysphoria 1.00

00:00:13.120 and the terrible and crippling impact it has on girls and young women who are lured down that

00:00:18.320 path. It's Fake News Friday. I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

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00:00:51.920 and you will never miss an episode. Okay, so today I want to talk about some extraordinary

00:00:57.360 journalism that was done by none other than the CBC. And I know Fake News Friday is usually the show,

00:01:03.200 the time of the week, where I pick the absolute worst stories, the worst examples of fake news

00:01:08.160 and bias reporting and expose it. Today is going to be a little different. I'm going to talk about

00:01:12.720 a piece of journalism that was tremendous, that really did something that so few in Canada these

00:01:18.160 days are willing to do. And I'm going to focus on the reaction because the reaction to this documentary

00:01:24.080 is really telling. And the reaction that we see from the authoritarian left, the people who just want

00:01:31.040 to shut down any debate, any conversation, they don't want to have these conversations, which is all

00:01:36.320 the more reason why we should have these conversations. These conversations are so important. Okay,

00:01:40.720 so last Friday, March 1st, the French for the French version of CBC, which is called Radio Canada,

00:01:46.640 Quebec, CBC, they put out an original documentary, an hour long documentary, it aired on Friday evening,

00:01:52.880 it was called Trans Express, Trans Express. And really, I mean, it was essential, it's in French,

00:02:00.400 and I'm going to do a future episode on it where I break down the entire content of the documentary

00:02:06.320 because it's so well done. And again, it's something that English CBC would just never do.

00:02:10.720 And so I didn't want to try to squish that into this episode. I'm going to save that

00:02:14.640 for a future episode where we're going to go through and translated it. And I'm going to explain

00:02:19.200 exactly what they learn, what they tell and what's happening in Quebec. But today, I'm going to focus,

00:02:24.080 like I said, on that reaction. So just in a nutshell, the documentary follows four young women,

00:02:31.120 girls in Quebec, who are sort of lured down this path towards gender transitioning, it starts out 0.83

00:02:36.720 with puberty blockers, basically, all you need in Quebec is one letter of recommendation

00:02:41.920 from a doctor, which we learn is incredibly easy to get in as little as again, just one 20 minute

00:02:47.280 consultation, some doctors are willing to write this letter. From there, that allows you to go on

00:02:52.000 puberty blockers, which girls start the documentary, we saw young girls doing it as young as 12 13 years

00:02:58.080 old. The next step in the so called gender affirming healthcare, which is really just sort of, again,

00:03:05.280 promoting trans and sex change, gender affirming is a euphemism. But again, pushing sex changes onto 0.82

00:03:13.200 young girls, the next step is testosterone. So they start taking it's really intense drug that just 0.94

00:03:18.160 changes everything about their body, and their mood, and everything. I mean, pumping a child full of 0.99

00:03:23.680 testosterone is really quite something. And then from there, they often want to move on to the

00:03:28.880 surgical element, which is including a double mastectomy, basically having your breasts removed. 0.89

00:03:35.600 And from the story, what we heard is basically that many girls that go through this process,

00:03:39.840 once they grow up, once they get past puberty, past the awkward stages of being in those young,

00:03:45.200 13, 14 years old, by the time they're 18, many of them do have regrets, many of them start

00:03:51.360 the process of detransitioning. And so again, that's what we learned from this documentary.

00:03:56.880 I really do encourage you to take a look, especially if you speak French, or if you want,

00:04:00.800 you can watch it with the subtitles on. But again, really important work. And I think that this is the

00:04:05.760 kind of thing, this is why we need journalism. This is why journalism is so important. You know,

00:04:11.440 I spend a lot of time on this program, criticizing journalists, talking about how biased they are and how

00:04:17.040 bad they are at their jobs. But the reality is that the role of a journalist in a society

00:04:21.280 society, I believe, is very important, that your job is to tell stories, to talk about social trends,

00:04:27.600 talk about social contagions, even if it's unpopular, even if it's unpopular. And here is a case where

00:04:34.160 it is uncomfortable and unpopular to talk about the stories, mostly because of the reaction that we see

00:04:40.160 from the left. But you can still have a big impact. We saw this happen in London a few years ago. So a BBC

00:04:47.200 journalist, now former BBC journalist, Hannah Barnes, wrote a book about what was going on at the Tavistock

00:04:54.160 clinic. The Tavistock clinic was the main center where kids were getting transitioned, girls were getting

00:04:59.120 transitioned in London. A woman wrote a huge expose, Hannah Barnes did a tremendous job, really just talking

00:05:06.560 about how quickly this process was taking place, how many girls were just rushed through the process, and how many of 0.98

00:05:12.560 them again ended up regretting it. The practices were so sloppy. And the result of Hannah Barnes's 0.76

00:05:17.200 incredible journalism was that Tavistock gender identity clinic closed. They closed because of the

00:05:23.920 work of this one journalist. So these kind of reports have an impact. They can really change what's going

00:05:29.200 on in society. And so again, just want to applaud Radio Canada, CBC, French for having the courage to put

00:05:36.800 together this report. And like I said, I watched it, I watched in great detail. It's really, really well done

00:05:41.840 and tremendous. And now, because it was so well done, and it will have an impact in Quebec, it's already

00:05:47.360 having an impact in Quebec, the usual voices, the trans activists came out avidly opposed to it. They

00:05:54.320 were mad, they were, they were angry, they were swearing, they were not happy that someone would dare to

00:06:01.040 do an expose on transing of young girls and young women. And basically, they don't want you to know 0.93

00:06:08.000 what's happening. That's the gist of it. They don't want you to know. So they have these really

00:06:13.600 profound, angry reactions to try to chill speech and to try to make people feel scared to talk about

00:06:20.240 these topics. So here are a couple of reactions. We had a lady called Michelle Blanc, who's a transgender 0.66

00:06:26.400 woman, which means biological man. She went on radio, he went on radio in, in Quebec, and basically

00:06:34.800 said that he was profoundly shocked by what he saw. And that what we've seen is that it went from

00:06:42.080 being very hard to change genders to being very easy. And he's saying that's a good thing. But the 1.00

00:06:46.960 whole point of the documentary is saying that's, that's a bad thing. We should we should probably

00:06:50.160 proceed with caution when it comes to sex change operations, especially for girls going through

00:06:55.520 puberty. Okay, next, we had a trans activist called Celeste Trianon. And she accused Radio 1.00

00:07:01.360 Canada of performing junk science and claiming that this further by further platforming anti-trans

00:07:08.480 junk science, Radio Canada is granting a voice of authority to these bad faith actors who are 1.00

00:07:13.680 attempting to erase us, dehumanize, and eliminate us from public life. Let me tell you, folks, I watched

00:07:19.120 the documentary. That's not what it does. There's no bad faith actors here. There are concerned

00:07:23.280 physicians, there are concerned parents, there are women who really live with the regret of their

00:07:29.040 actions. That's not bad faith. Okay, these are people telling a story. No one's attempting to

00:07:35.440 erase trans people or dehumanize them, or eliminate them from public life. We're trying to understand

00:07:41.040 this phenomenon, and make sure that children are protected. That's not the same thing. And this is

00:07:46.000 kind of what they do, right? They throw really bad accusations at people who want to talk about this

00:07:50.240 issue. They make you feel like you shouldn't talk about it, or you will get accused of being a bad

00:07:56.240 faith actor or being a bigot, being a homophobe or transphobe, and trying to eliminate trans people

00:08:02.720 from public life. Okay, next, we have a University of Alberta law professor called Florence Ashley. 1.00

00:08:10.000 She wrote on X that Radio Canada is jumping on the moral panic train by making a whole documentary

00:08:17.360 platforming anti-trans views in the middle of an unprecedented rise in legal persecution towards

00:08:24.480 trans people in Canada beyond disappointing. They should be ashamed. Interesting that she calls this 1.00

00:08:30.480 a moral panic. Look, we've lived through a couple of moral panics in the last few years. I think COVID

00:08:36.080 and vaccines, that can easily be classified as a moral panic. I don't really see a moral panic when it

00:08:41.840 comes to trans people. I think that really this trend kind of came up quickly. Not a lot of people were

00:08:47.120 paying attention to it. The numbers have changed drastically in the last 10 years. A lot of people,

00:08:52.160 again, are still asleep to it. And now we finally have voices and people coming forward saying

00:08:57.040 that the strategies that we're taking and the way that the medical community, some of the medical

00:09:02.080 community are treating this issue isn't right, isn't good. That's not a moral panic. That's just being

00:09:07.680 prudent and reacting to what's happening around us. She claims that there's an unprecedented

00:09:12.960 rise in legal persecution towards trans people in Canada. I have to say I have no idea what she's

00:09:19.280 talking about. An unprecedented rise in legal persecution towards trans people in Canada.

00:09:23.920 Does anybody know what she's talking about? A rise in legal persecution? Maybe I missed something.

00:09:30.160 Maybe I missed a whole bunch of stories about trans people getting arrested and jailed.

00:09:34.000 Anyone know what you're talking about? If you do, maybe you can write about it in the comment

00:09:38.880 section because I'm happy to look into that. But I am very unaware of any such thing that she's

00:09:44.320 talking about. Okay, let's move on to Rachel Gilmore, who has become one of our favorite people

00:09:51.280 to highlight. She's a former journalist with Global News and now she seems to be doing investigative

00:09:56.800 reporting with an advocacy organization called Check My Ad. She calls herself an award-winning

00:10:02.400 journalist and she's very active on Instagram and TikTok. So she had sort of the loudest

00:10:09.440 reaction and the most in-depth. So we're going to play a couple of her videos here and react to them.

00:10:14.560 So on March 5th, March 1st, very shortly after the documentary came out, Rachel Gilmore tweeted,

00:10:20.400 Radio Canada's so-called investigation into gender affirming care is a case study in how

00:10:25.360 not to do journalism. Okay, so this like what 25-year-old is going to give us

00:10:29.520 a case study in real journalism versus how not to do journalism. She says that it's

00:10:33.920 embarrassing and harmful that has trans activists saying what the F, CBC. She posted a little video

00:10:40.800 of herself here. So we're going to play this video now and I will try my best to react and sort of

00:10:47.920 try to respond to some of the claims that she's making. Apologies in advance because it's a little

00:10:54.720 irritating to watch but here we will watch this clip. Here is Rachel Gilmore. 1.00

00:11:01.680 Let's talk about an investigation that was published yesterday by Radio Canada which has

00:11:05.280 been slammed as beyond disappointing. Of course, trans rights activist Faye Johnstone characterized

00:11:09.200 it but what the F, CBC? The investigation looked into gender-affirming care for trans youth but they

00:11:14.320 didn't speak to anyone with a positive experience with transition until 40 minutes into the hour-long

00:11:18.480 investigation which is grossly misrepresentative of gender-affirming care's real regret rate. The

00:11:22.880 Associated Press looked at 27 studies on the matter and found that 99% of those who received

00:11:27.440 gender-affirming care do not have regrets. But Radio Canada speaks to five...

00:11:31.040 Let's stop that right there. So first of all, Rachel says that they followed the experience of four

00:11:35.600 girls who went through transitioning and only one was positive. I would sort of disagree with that

00:11:41.280 because again in the documentary they do present the stories of four girls who all had diagnosis of

00:11:46.960 gender dysphoria and their various experiences. I would say that one of the girls that they speak to early on

00:11:51.360 in the documentary was positive about it. She was very excited about it. She went through the gender 1.00

00:11:55.520 hormone treatment and it wasn't until later when she got a bit older that she had a negative experience

00:11:59.760 and wanted to detransition. So that whole thing that we don't meet a positive story until 40 minutes in

00:12:05.360 it's not it's just not how the documentary plays out. Second, she uses a stat which we do hear a lot. 0.98

00:12:11.280 A lot of people throw the statistic around. It's from the Associated Press. It says that 99% of patients do not

00:12:16.800 have regrets and so this basically looked at 27 studies of almost 8,000 teens and adults who had

00:12:23.280 transgender surgery, mostly in Europe. The US and Canada only 1% expressed regret. So that is out

00:12:29.840 there but there are other studies that painted very different pictures. So there was an Oxford study that

00:12:34.480 came out in October 2022 and they found that the rates were quite different. That the rates of detransitions

00:12:41.280 were higher among trans men 11% sorry transgender women which are biological men 11% and transgender

00:12:48.240 men which are biological women 4%. And we're also talking about people who go through the process 0.96

00:12:54.640 of actually detransitioning. So we're talking about 11 or 4% that actually go and get the reverse

00:12:59.600 surgery done after the initial surgery. That's even a higher number than the people who might feel regret.

00:13:05.280 We heard on the show a couple weeks ago about a doctor talking about how many of these surgeries

00:13:10.880 get botched because they're so novel and they're so difficult. And so people end up having chronic pain

00:13:16.800 or having a lot of discomfort, sexual discomfort after these surgeries. That might lead to regret,

00:13:22.160 not necessarily detransitioning. Reuters also talked about this in December of 2022. And basically,

00:13:31.200 the idea is that in Europe, they follow the same course of action as we do in North America,

00:13:36.480 but they go much slower. It's a much more methodical approach, which is very different. And what we

00:13:42.800 learned in this documentary in Quebec is basically that the mindset of the doctors is that you have to

00:13:47.600 act as fast as possible to get this done because that will improve the mental health of the children.

00:13:52.560 So they really rush you through from hormone or from puberty blockers to hormones to surgery. It all

00:13:59.040 happens sometimes in a matter of like a couple of like 18 months or two years. And in Europe,

00:14:05.440 it doesn't happen that way. And so when you combine the studies from Europe and North America,

00:14:09.840 you kind of water down the results because Europe seems to be much more sort of thoughtful about this

00:14:16.000 compared to North America, where again, the emphasis is like, let's just get this done as fast as

00:14:21.760 possible. And let's not ask too many questions. And let's just like support and affirm the child in

00:14:27.600 their gender dysphoria. Final point here about detransitioning not being very common or being

00:14:33.680 less than 1%. If that were really the case, why is it that we see so many detransitioners in the 1.00

00:14:40.880 public, on social media, on YouTube? It seems that we constantly hear the stories of these young girls

00:14:46.640 who were rushed into this decision, who later regret it. Jordan Peterson did an excellent, excellent

00:14:52.000 interview with a lady, a young lady named Chloe Cole, who's 18. Her story is basically that she

00:14:56.960 started transitioning at age 12. And by 15, she had had the double mastectomy. So she started at 12.

00:15:03.280 By 13, she was taking drugs. 15, she had the surgery. Now she's 18. And she's a strong advocate

00:15:08.640 against this ideology. And she talks about the process of detransitioning. So let's play that clip.

00:15:14.400 My dad asked like about the regret rates. And they said like, oh,

00:15:16.880 they didn't even, I don't think they even use the word detransition. They said like,

00:15:22.400 oh, it's, there's less than a 1% to 2% regret rate. And they also told my parents that

00:15:30.720 if I wasn't allowed to go through with this, then I would be at risk of suicide.

00:15:36.160 So those are all the typical things that they tell parents, that if you don't allow your child to

00:15:40.960 transition, that they might commit suicide, that detransition, regret is very, very low,

00:15:45.680 and don't worry about it at all. You know, in the documentary, the Quebec documentary,

00:15:50.960 it was really interesting. They interviewed a young woman who ended up detransitioning.

00:15:55.040 And she talked about how basically a week after she had her double mastectomy,

00:15:58.560 she felt regret. As soon as she removed the stitches and saw her new body, she didn't like it,

00:16:02.400 she still didn't feel good. And she knew that she wanted to get her breasts back essentially. 1.00

00:16:07.680 And so she called up her doctors, the same therapist that pushed her down this path towards

00:16:11.440 transitioning. And it was so ironic. At that point, they basically said, well, you know, you're still

00:16:18.880 in transition, you're still in trauma. Why don't you wait, we need to do a year of therapy, you need

00:16:24.480 to wait at least three years before you can even talk about going down that path. And they really

00:16:29.680 urged caution. And she also made the point that when she wanted to transition, she had the support of

00:16:34.880 so many people, everybody sort of in her community online, people were excited for her, her doctors

00:16:40.720 really supportive of her transitioning. And then as soon as the coin flipped, and she changed her mind,

00:16:45.920 she felt completely alone that no one was supporting her that everyone told her that she had to wait,

00:16:50.160 that people told her that, you know, she was being too rash or whatever. And it's just so ironic that

00:16:54.800 they urge caution on that side, but not the initial life changing, irreversible changes to her body.

00:17:02.720 Okay, let's go back to Rachel Gilmore's video here.

00:17:06.240 Experts opposing gender affirming care for youth, three parents with negative experiences,

00:17:09.920 two teens with negative experiences, just one supportive expert and one happy trans teen.

00:17:15.120 They also make a big show of attending.

00:17:16.480 That's not true at all. Again, I watched a documentary, the main voice that we hear throughout

00:17:21.680 the documentary is a Quebec researcher who is in favor of trans affirming care. So she's pro trans.

00:17:29.920 And we have her voice throughout the entire documentary, explaining what the rationale is,

00:17:35.200 and why these things are happening, why it's happening so quickly. And so for Rachel to say

00:17:38.880 that they only interviewed one positive trans person, I mean, it's very misleading. The documentary

00:17:43.600 overall was very balanced. It actually did try to show both sides of the story, even though its focus

00:17:48.640 was on girls who felt harmed, and it didn't serve them well. But overall, you know, we heard from lots of

00:17:54.720 different experts, lots of researchers, and this idea that it only featured one isn't true. It also featured

00:18:00.640 many clips from another doctor in Quebec, who's sort of seen as a rock star in this field, very pro trans,

00:18:06.720 and it featured her comments throughout. And then at one point, it mentioned that they invited her on

00:18:11.840 the show. And she said no, she refused to go on the show. So again, Rachel's either didn't watch the documentary,

00:18:18.720 she's not being honest about what it did and what it says. Okay, let's keep playing this clip.

00:18:23.680 A conference in New York put on by this group, which is against gender-affirming care for youth.

00:18:28.320 Of the six experts interviewed in the entire piece, four are from this. Here's what Celeste

00:18:32.240 Trianon told me about this.

00:18:33.680 By further platforming anti-trans junk science,

00:18:36.480 Rio Canada is granting a voice of authority to these bad faith actors who are attempting to erase us, 1.00

00:18:42.560 to dehumanize us, to eliminate us from public life.

00:18:45.600 Junk science is right. They repeatedly platform this Swedish anti-trans activist, 1.00

00:18:49.920 who says that there's no evidence that providing gender-affirming care is beneficial for mental

00:18:54.000 health. It's literally so easy. Let's just stop right there. Okay, so basically, again,

00:18:59.840 she claims that there's this group that's overrepresented in the documentary. But then,

00:19:04.640 like, there's something wrong with that group. There's just a group of experts in the field,

00:19:08.080 and their positions have led them, their research has led them to the position that it's not a good

00:19:12.880 idea to rush girls with gender dysphoria, rapid onset gender dysphoria, through a transition.

00:19:17.520 And she says, just because they're part of this one group, we shouldn't listen to them,

00:19:20.320 or that's wrong. And then she, again, plays that clip of this woman just randomly accusing them of 0.99

00:19:25.280 junk science. And she takes aim at a Swedish doctor that was featured in the documentary called Dr.

00:19:31.760 Mikkel Landen. And so basically, this doctor, who they call a quack scientist pushing junk science,

00:19:39.760 reality, this is the chief physician at the University of Gothenburg Hospital. He's a professor

00:19:46.240 at that university in the Department of Psychiatry and Neurochemistry. So a pretty credentialed,

00:19:52.480 pretty successful, established doctor here, not just like some quack, like this is a person who

00:19:59.120 actually knows what he is talking about, unlike the two people that are featured in Rachel Gilmer's

00:20:04.640 video. Okay, let's resume to find a study proving him wrong.

00:20:08.880 Daniel Canada also had an actress. Sorry, just one more point there. So we could pause that. So

00:20:13.360 the point that she was making there was that Dr. Landen, this doctor from Sweden, says that there's

00:20:18.560 no benefit to transing in terms of mental health. And so she just grabs this one study from the JAMA

00:20:25.360 network, basically affirming her point. But the reality is that you can find studies that will point to

00:20:33.200 either direction. Like the experts don't agree on this topic, which is why it's such an interesting

00:20:36.560 topic. It's still new. It's still novel. There is basically a split among the people who look at it

00:20:41.200 as to whether it's a good idea to rush kids through transition. The rationale behind rushing kids through

00:20:45.920 transition is that many trans adults look back and say, you know, my teenagers are so difficult,

00:20:51.280 and it would have been so much better if I could have just been trans back then. And so the idea is to

00:20:55.600 help mental health, you just have to get these kids on the path, have a transition as soon as 0.79

00:20:59.440 possible. And that will improve their mental health. The other side is saying, well, look,

00:21:04.560 people who have severe mental health issues, transing doesn't help. Like if you're depressed, 1.00

00:21:09.920 and you have anxiety, and you have suicidal ideation ideation before transing, and then you go through all

00:21:15.840 this medical procedures, including sex change operations, essentially, at the end of the day,

00:21:22.720 that might not solve the underlying problem. A lot of these kids still remain miserable after the

00:21:27.680 transition. And that's certainly what the documentary aims to show. And of course,

00:21:32.320 there's studies that that promote this as well. So stats for gender, they had a, they looked at

00:21:38.960 129 female to male patients. And basically, because of complication rates, they found that mental health

00:21:46.240 worsened the outcome, especially after those who had the surgeries. There's another study that says that

00:21:52.560 there's little evidence to assert that puberty blockers are necessary to prevent suicide.

00:21:57.920 And a prominent study that looked at medical transitions found that it did not alleviate

00:22:02.880 suicidality, and that there were no, there's no advantage of surgeries. A long-term Swedish study

00:22:09.040 found that post-operative transgender people actually have considerably higher risks for suicide. So

00:22:15.760 it's not just like a slam dunk look, I found this one study, therefore this doctor is completely not to be

00:22:20.880 trusted. The reality is that these studies are complicated. And, and, and, and like what we

00:22:26.400 know is that if you're happy and you transition, you'll probably remain happy. If you have anxiety

00:22:31.440 and depression and are suicidal, you're probably still going to have to deal with those underlying

00:22:37.520 issues. Okay. Let's go back to Rachel's clip. 14 year old seeking gender affirming care. They sent her 0.97

00:22:43.360 to a private clinic where she secretly filmed her conversation with a doctor and she shared an extensive

00:22:47.680 made up backstory and was ultimately prescribed testosterone. But this is not the average

00:22:51.760 experience with seeking out gender affirming care in Canada as CBC's own reporting has failed.

00:22:56.160 But Radio Canada ignores this kind of thing and repeatedly reiterates the idea that things are

00:23:00.800 moving too fast. Okay. Let's stop it right there. So we, we covered this article that she's talking

00:23:05.520 about the CBC article about kids in Alberta. We covered it on fake news Friday, two weeks ago. It's not

00:23:10.960 a slam dunk. It's not saying like this, this report right here totally refutes what the other one is

00:23:15.920 saying. This was a story criticizing private care, criticizing the Canadian government for not

00:23:21.360 providing more public care for trans kids. And they tried to tie it in with the Alberta ban. And

00:23:26.880 so what we saw in that show, I recommend you go back and watch my episode on fake news Friday,

00:23:30.880 because the whole thing is really ridiculous and absurd. But the whole idea of lack of access in

00:23:35.920 Alberta is based on this one girl who wants to transition, but basically the doctor that she goes 0.97

00:23:43.120 to speak to isn't so sure that it's a good idea for her. And so we have this clip of this girl

00:23:48.720 describing her experience and going and seeing a doctor. So let's play that clip.

00:23:53.040 It was like, um, asking me really weird questions. Like what if I wanted to get pregnant someday?

00:23:57.760 What if I had a husband someday? I think he asked me like, what if you want to keep your boobs? Like it 0.96

00:24:04.880 was so weird and invasive. We just wanted a referral to a gender clinic, just a referral was all that we 0.98

00:24:10.240 wanted. And then it would be out of his hands. He refused to do that for us.

00:24:13.760 So this is not talking about lack of access to gender affirming care. This is talking about a

00:24:17.600 sensible doctor who sees a child, a petulant child, basically just going into a doctor's office,

00:24:23.360 demanding a letter, demanding drugs. Any doctor that's worth their worth their weight would say no

00:24:29.120 to a child like this. Like a child can't just come into your office, demand something. I want drugs.

00:24:33.440 Write me a letter. Just do it. Don't ask me any questions. Saying that it was like somehow like creepy and

00:24:37.680 weird that a doctor would ask her about, you know, the future. Do you want kids? What if you have a

00:24:42.160 husband? What, you know, you're going to lose your breast. You might not be able to breastfeed a child. 1.00

00:24:45.760 You might not be able to have children. And the child was angry. The teenager was angry and upset

00:24:51.440 and just saying like, shut up doctor. Just give me the note. Give me the letter of recommendation.

00:24:55.760 Let me do what I want to do. Again, that's not an example of lack of access to care. That's an example

00:25:01.280 of a doctor doing really the job that doctors should be doing in our society. Okay, let's play the rest

00:25:07.360 of this clip. I think it's almost done. Caution. I mean, they literally call the segment trans express,

00:25:12.960 which makes me wonder what's the point of this because it really smacks of opportunistic moral

00:25:16.880 panic at a time when the trans community really doesn't need that. Meanwhile, anti-trans organizations

00:25:21.360 and people are thrilled about it. And the journalists responsible for the investigation are going on

00:25:25.760 Quebec's biggest talk show on Sunday. So I guess all that's really left to say is what CBC? What do you

00:25:30.960 think of all this? Kind of amusing. She asks at the end, what do you think of all this? And then,

00:25:36.960 you know, she posts a video on Twitter and on Twitter, she doesn't allow anybody to reply because 0.93

00:25:41.840 she actually doesn't care what you have to say. She doesn't want anyone commenting on her pristine 0.99

00:25:47.760 works of journalism there. So yes, the documentary is called trans express because the whole idea

00:25:53.360 is that the philosophy behind transing kids in Quebec is to do it as fast as possible to get it done 0.99

00:25:59.440 fast and quickly for the mental health reasons that she states. So calling the documentary trans express

00:26:05.200 is true. It's not opportunistic to talk about this issue right now. It's relevant. It's culturally

00:26:11.200 relevant because it's happening and so many parents don't know about it. And then she's what angry that

00:26:16.480 Jonathan Kay was tweeting about it and that somehow makes it bad or that the journalists who created the

00:26:21.360 documentary are now going on the number one talk show in Quebec to talk more about it. That's a win.

00:26:26.160 That's a social win. That means that people are interested in this. They care about it. They're having

00:26:30.640 these conversations that they might not have been having a year or two ago. And you can see that

00:26:35.280 trans activists and the authoritarian left like Rachel Gilmore, they're not happy about that. They

00:26:40.000 just want to shut down the conversation. They only want to hear from the people who are sort of approved

00:26:44.720 that are saying the right messages and anyone else they work hard to try to discredit and silence them.

00:26:50.320 Okay, so I think I think my producer is trying to torture us here because we have a second Rachel 1.00

00:26:55.520 Gilmore clip here that we're going to play and respond to. So this is this is her reaction video.

00:27:01.840 Again, she put out the first one the day the documentary came out on Friday, March 1st.

00:27:05.600 This one came out a couple days later on Tuesday, March the 5th. So first she tweeted some clinics

00:27:10.960 in Quebec have stopped providing gender affirming care to trans teens. It's a consequence of Radio

00:27:16.320 Canada's sloppy reporting on the issue. One doctor said they didn't include one Quebec doctor that

00:27:21.840 provides gender affirming care in their investigation. So I did. Like I mentioned a few minutes ago,

00:27:27.360 they tried, they tried, they talked about how they invited doctors to come on their program. And they

00:27:33.520 said no, the doctors didn't want to go on the program. So Rachel pretending that she's some rock 1.00

00:27:38.960 star journalist that's doing the job that an entire documentary team at the CBC failed to do is a bit

00:27:45.360 rich. But what do you expect really? Okay, let's play her second video that came out on Tuesday.

00:27:52.160 Some clinics in Quebec have stopped providing gender affirming care to youth. And according

00:27:56.240 to a doctor who still does provide this care in Quebec, that's a consequence of Radio Canada's

00:28:00.640 recent investigation, in which they found the time to interview four separate international

00:28:04.880 opponents to gender affirming care for youth, but not a single Quebec based doctor who provides this

00:28:09.200 care. So Radio Canada, I did it for you. This is Antoine Cloutier-Blais, a doctor in Montreal who

00:28:15.600 actually works with trans patients. Here's what he had to say.

00:28:18.480 Radio Canada is not going to take responsibility here for whatever consequences are going to come

00:28:25.600 out of their documentary. But there are consequences. As of now, some clinics have decided to stop

00:28:33.360 offering teenage care because it's getting too high of attention. And they're afraid.

00:28:40.480 The report, he said.

00:28:41.360 Okay, let's just stop right there. So we're supposed to believe a documentary was aired on Friday night,

00:28:46.640 this interview, and this, this video was released on Tuesday. So we're supposed to believe that on

00:28:52.960 Monday, one business day, that gender clinics in Quebec have closed. You're going to have to provide 1.00

00:28:58.480 some evidence of that, Rachel, if you're a journalist, and you're making claims, you should probably

00:29:03.120 provide the research and the evidence like you like you claim, you know, that you're debunking these

00:29:08.480 other doctors with research you found online. How can you just claim that that gender providing 0.99

00:29:14.880 clinics have closed? I haven't seen a single news story. I haven't seen a single tweet or anybody

00:29:20.240 talking about a specific gender clinic that would have closed one day after creating, releasing a

00:29:26.720 documentary, the documentary was released. So if she's going to make this claim, I think she should

00:29:31.040 probably provide some evidence. I find it very hard to believe that clinics stopped offering a service

00:29:36.160 based on one documentary and that they were afraid of getting attention. And if that is true, well,

00:29:41.280 I'll just say that that is a win for the culture, because that's a fast reaction to a documentary.

00:29:47.120 I do think this documentary will have wide-ranging effects and impacts. I think that it will wake up

00:29:52.880 a lot of people in society to what is happening and to the dangers and the harms of the process that

00:29:58.800 we provide to girls suffering from rapid onset to gender dysphoria. But I don't think it's happening

00:30:06.240 that fast. I don't think it's happening already. All right, let's resume this video.

00:30:09.760 Like important concerns from parents, but it approaches them all wrong. The answer isn't

00:30:15.120 as the investigation posits to make it less accessible. Instead, it shows that frankly,

00:30:19.520 like a lot of healthcare issues right now, gender-affirming care needs to be better

00:30:23.200 resourced so it can provide the highest level of care to patients. He also fact checks several

00:30:27.520 claims made in the investigation, including the impression it leaves that puberty blockers might be

00:30:32.080 unscathed. Okay, wait, wait, let's just go back to that first claim that she says that

00:30:35.520 the goal of the documentary was to reduce access. That's not the goal of the documentary at all.

00:30:40.080 The goal of the documentary was to inform the public of what is happening and to urge caution,

00:30:45.440 to say, hey, maybe we should take the approach that they take in Sweden and Finland, which is just to

00:30:49.840 go slowly to make sure that these girls are making the right decision, to make sure they understand

00:30:54.080 the gravity of changing their sex, which will have an impact in their future. As a woman, you'll never be 0.94

00:31:00.880 able to, for instance, reproduce. Or if you are able, you won't be able to breastfeed your child.

00:31:06.400 These are huge life-altering consequences. The documentary is just urging caution and to go

00:31:11.520 slowly. They're not trying to urge that you shouldn't have access or that we should close

00:31:17.120 clinics. That's not what they were arguing at all. They were just really pointing out the voices of

00:31:21.360 doctors saying, this is going too fast, this is going too fast. And the idea that trans people in 0.99

00:31:28.080 Canada don't have access, the opposite is true. We have seen that governments across Canada, across

00:31:33.520 the country, at every level of government, politicians and governments have bought into

00:31:37.120 the trans movement. We've seen story after story of new gender-affirming clinics, sex change clinics,

00:31:43.120 opening up. The CBC reported just last month that a new surgery clinic was opening up in Ottawa,

00:31:49.680 the first one in Ontario. Likewise, we learned that British Columbia was bringing in gender-affirming

00:31:56.160 surgery for trans people, doing it closer to home. And of course, even in Alberta, 0.57

00:32:01.840 even when Danielle Smith had the courage to come out and ban these procedures for minors, 1.00

00:32:06.720 in that announcement, she also said that Alberta would be opening new clinics and

00:32:14.240 places where people could go for trans surgeries, sex change surgeries. So even Alberta, in some way,

00:32:20.160 is embracing this and providing more access. So the idea that this is an access issue, that's the

00:32:26.000 opposite, that's literally the opposite of what is going on here. Okay, let's go back to that clip.

00:32:30.640 I do know blockers are safe and have reversible effects and consequences of short-term use of

00:32:41.680 blockers are negligible. This care also requires regular check-in.

00:32:45.360 No, we're going to stop that doctor right there. Saying that puberty blockers are safe

00:32:50.880 and have reversible effects is just completely wrong. It's nonsense. Where have we heard that

00:32:55.280 taking a drug, taking a medical intervention is safe and effective? Where have we heard that before?

00:33:00.640 I feel like anytime you hear a doctor telling you that you can take a drug and it will have no effect

00:33:06.720 on you, that they're safe and they'll have no side effects, totally reversible, you should be

00:33:12.160 skeptical of that doctor. And in this case, we have reason to believe it. So the National Post

00:33:18.800 reported last year, so this is coming from the British National Health Services. Britain's National

00:33:24.240 Health Service has long held that the effects are considered to be fully reversible, that is of

00:33:28.720 puberty blockers. But that position was updated in June 2020 and it now reads that little is known

00:33:34.000 about the long-term effects of hormone on puberty blockers in children with gender dysphoria,

00:33:40.000 while the physical effects may be reversible. It is not known what psychological effects may be.

00:33:46.080 It's also not known whether hormone blockers affect the development of the teenage brain or

00:33:49.520 children's bones. Side effects may also include hot flashes, fatigue, and mood alteration, the website

00:33:56.080 now states. So again, just stating willy-nilly that these things are totally fine, totally reversible,

00:34:02.000 don't even worry about it. Yeah, everyone should be very skeptical of that. Okay, let's go back to Rachel.

00:34:08.960 Rachel. And hormone therapy is a process, and transitioning is a process, and self-knowledge

00:34:16.720 is a process. Patients usually start with puberty blockers, which buys them more time to make their

00:34:20.880 decisions before moving on to something like hormone therapy, which can be more permanent,

00:34:24.480 but patients are told that. Because in Quebec, once you turn 14, you can make decisions-

00:34:28.800 Just a second here. So she says that the whole point of the puberty blockers is it just buys time,

00:34:34.720 and it lets the child decide, of course this isn't true, again to the point that I've been making

00:34:38.320 throughout this clip, is that they rush you. They rush you to the next step, and usually the girls 1.00

00:34:43.600 who are in the process, they just want to speed it up as well and go to the next step. And the

00:34:48.480 statistics back this up. So of the young ladies, of the girls and boys who get onto puberty blockers,

00:34:56.080 according to the National Post, there was a study that looked at 174 children. Nearly two-thirds of

00:35:03.360 them went onto hormones. The documentary, Shines Express, had an even more shocking statistic. They

00:35:10.000 said that 9 out of 10 young ladies who go on puberty blockers eventually go on hormones. So the whole

00:35:16.480 idea that they're just buying time and that not everybody takes the next step, that's not true.

00:35:21.840 And again, it's all part of the process. It's all part of the story that people are rushed into these

00:35:29.280 procedures. Okay, let's keep playing the clip.

00:35:31.120 ...on your own about almost all care deemed necessary for your health. But as Radio Canada painted a picture

00:35:37.280 of things happening too young and too fast, they didn't really mention this broader context.

00:35:41.360 Overall, Radio Canada has a lot it needs to explain about this so-called investigation. What do you

00:35:46.000 think? Again, what do you think? And then I'm going to turn off my comments because I don't want you

00:35:51.520 to tell me what you think. It's funny that Rachel brought up the fact that the age of consent in Quebec

00:35:56.400 is only 14. Quebec is an outlier almost everywhere else in North America. The age of consent is 16. And I

00:36:02.720 could imagine in a different context, Rachel would argue that it's wrong that a 14 year old could

00:36:07.840 consent to a sexual relationship or to marriage with an older man. I don't think that she really

00:36:12.320 thought that through. I think she just used that statistic to try to like own the CBC or own Radio

00:36:17.680 Canada and prove that she's right. But again, you know, not a very thoughtful person. So you can't

00:36:22.880 expect her to put much thought into those videos that she's putting out. Okay, so let's take a step back

00:36:30.720 here. Radio Canada produced an important piece of journalism and in Quebec, it will be influential

00:36:36.640 and it will have an impact. This is for two reasons. The first one is that the CBC is still relevant

00:36:42.080 and is still important in Quebec. Unlike in the rest of Canada where people hardly watch it and viewership

00:36:46.480 is very down, very low. Not a lot of people care what's happening at the CBC. In Quebec, it's different

00:36:52.560 and it is still relevant. People talk about it. People listen, especially the fact that the hosts are now

00:36:57.360 going or the documentary filmmakers are now going on to Toot de Monde, which is a talk show that

00:37:02.240 everybody watches in Quebec. It will have an impact. And the second reason it'll have an impact

00:37:08.320 is because the content is so incredibly interesting and alarming. Most parents and most people don't

00:37:14.640 really realize what is happening. They don't realize the extent to which it's happening and how

00:37:19.120 much this is things have changed in the last 10 to 15 years. The more the people are aware of this

00:37:24.720 issue, that girls are being pushed down this path, the more people will oppose it. And it is for this 0.98

00:37:31.040 reason that the documentary will change hearts and minds. It will change public opinion in Quebec.

00:37:36.960 And that is the reason why these radical trans activists are having the reaction that they're

00:37:41.600 having. See, there's nothing wrong with the documentary. The documentary is excellent. The

00:37:45.520 journalists involved were not motivated by bigotry or hatred. They were simply doing their job,

00:37:50.640 doing the job of a journalist, which is exploring and exposing a harmful social trend. That is why

00:37:57.360 the authoritarian left is responding the way they are. You can see in their tactics how they're

00:38:02.080 authoritarian. They don't want to have a debate. They don't want to have a discussion. They're simply

00:38:06.240 there to shut down debate by smearing opposition voices, saying they're untrustworthy, saying they're

00:38:11.120 bigoted, insisting that their facts are wrong, insisting that the only experts that we should listen to

00:38:16.480 are their experts. Well, that's not how civil discourse works. That's not how a free society

00:38:22.080 functions. A free society should applaud real journalism. We should be happy and impressed by

00:38:28.000 what we saw come out of Quebec. We should encourage more of that. The fact that CBC in English hasn't

00:38:32.800 picked up the story at all. The story has actually barely made its way into English. Canada is actually

00:38:38.320 quite telling about the difference between the two CBCs. And really, we should, as a society,

00:38:43.600 we should reject hysterical voices and activists who are simply trying to shut down debate,

00:38:49.200 trying to shut down conversations, and trying to ram through their own ideology.

00:38:54.320 Thank you so much for tuning in. It's Fake News Friday. I'm Kedis Malkam, and this is The Kedis Malkam Show.

The Candice Malcolm Show - March 08, 2024

The authoritarian left is not happy with the CBC

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