The Candice Malcolm Show - The Canadian Left respond to the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

00:00:00.040 Kyle Rittenhouse is found not guilty and the left loses its mind. I'm Candice

00:00:03.960 Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:10.380 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in. I hope everyone out there had a wonderful weekend

00:00:13.820 out there with their families. It is Monday so we are going to get back into it today. I want to

00:00:18.180 talk about this Kyle Rittenhouse trial. I don't usually focus on U.S. issues here on the show

00:00:22.240 because there's already so much out there where you can find commentary and analysis and opinion

00:00:27.320 on what's happening in the U.S. but for this case it's starting to spill into Canada so I want to

00:00:31.620 talk about how the left in Canada are reacting to this case and how it's relevant. So in case you

00:00:38.060 haven't been following I'll just give you a really brief overview. So a jury on Friday found Kyle

00:00:42.900 Rittenhouse not guilty of murder for fatally shooting two men and injuring a third last year during the

00:00:48.420 riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin marking the end of a contentious trial that pitted the prosecution

00:00:52.680 against the judge. Rittenhouse who is 18 now, he was 17 at the time of this incident, he lives in a

00:00:59.100 northern suburb of Chicago which is about 15 miles from Kenosha, Wisconsin. So on August 25th of 2020,

00:01:05.360 again when he was 17 years old, Rittenhouse decided to patrol downtown Kenosha area along with other

00:01:10.580 armed men in order to protect a used car dealership from looting and vandalism. So he showed up to protect

00:01:17.720 the property of a family friend. He was also there with a first aid kit because he was providing first

00:01:23.640 aid to people who needed it. The city as you may recall had devolved into rioting over the police

00:01:29.420 shooting of Jacob Blake who was a black man by a white Kenosha police officer. I only mention the race

00:01:35.480 of the officer and the individual is because that is what the contention was. That was why we saw the

00:01:39.940 looting and rioting as we've seen in so many other instances across both Canada and the U.S.

00:01:44.520 that this racial divide is really being amplified and pitted against people and it's used as a

00:01:50.180 platform for all of this bad behavior. So back to Rittenhouse, while guarding this used car dealership,

00:01:56.260 he was chased by a mob and he ended up shooting fatally two people, Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony

00:02:01.780 Huber, injuring a third, Gabe Groskvitz. The defendant and the three men he shot were all white. So even 0.98

00:02:08.660 though the issue has that component of race, the issue here with Cal Rittenhouse and the three people

00:02:14.200 who shot wasn't a racial issue. It had nothing to do with race. It was amplified onto the national

00:02:18.400 platform because of the connection to the Kenosha rioting and the connection to Jacob Black. So it was

00:02:24.420 all sort of used by the left-wing media to again point to another example of racism in America, supposedly

00:02:30.140 how this white person, Cal Rittenhouse, who was a teenager, we were told he was some kind of a white

00:02:36.920 nationalist, that he was a Trump supporter and then he was just there shooting people up. It turns out

00:02:41.020 that wasn't the case at all. So he was arrested and charged with five felony charges, one misdemeanor

00:02:46.440 charge. The most serious charge was intentional homicide, Wisconsin's top murder charge, which

00:02:50.440 carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison. The others were reckless homicide, attempted homicide,

00:02:55.100 two counts of reckless endangerment and being a minor legally in possession of a firearm. And again,

00:03:00.600 if you watch this case, if you watch the trial and the facts come out, which we'll talk about on the

00:03:03.660 show, we'll unpack it all. It became very evident that this young man was acting in self-defense,

00:03:08.280 that the entire media narrative invented about him was a pure, pure fantasy. It was untrue.

00:03:14.020 It wasn't accurate. All of the things that were said about the young man, including the fact that

00:03:18.460 he was a white supremacist, he was on Tucker Carlson and he said that he supports Black Lives Matter.

00:03:22.480 He supports the BLM movements and he supported the protesters who were there. He was again,

00:03:26.740 simply there to help provide order, to protect property and to provide first aid. So again,

00:03:31.580 the entire media narrative about him was basically false. This is what it looked like, a very,

00:03:36.140 very powerful moment in the courthouse. This is what it looked like when Kyle Rittenhouse was found

00:03:40.740 not guilty.

00:03:41.820 H. Grosskreutz, we the jury find the defendant, Kyle H. Rittenhouse, not guilty.

00:03:50.180 Members of the jury, are these your unanimous verdicts? Is there anyone who does not agree with

00:03:55.560 the verdicts as read? Would you wish the jury pulled?

00:04:00.240 No.

00:04:00.460 Okay. Okay. Okay, folks, your job is done.

00:04:04.600 And today I'm delighted to be joined by a young writer, brilliant young writer who keeps the

00:04:10.160 website slow to write. His name is Samuel Say. And Samuel wrote about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.

00:04:16.740 He wrote about how it isn't really about white privilege, but it's about a different kind

00:04:20.520 of privilege. So Samuel, thank you so much for joining us today.

00:04:24.160 Thank you for having me. I'm a big fan, so thank you.

00:04:26.160 Well, we're a big fan of your writing over there. And really, you have a very thoughtful

00:04:31.600 way of looking at things. I like the name of your website as well, Slow to Write, because

00:04:36.120 it's not like a hot take. It's not like a quick reaction. You're very, very thoughtful in regards

00:04:42.120 to how you analyze these kind of issues. So why don't you tell us a little bit about your take on

00:04:47.640 the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and what we're seeing sort of as a reaction?

00:04:52.580 Yeah. Yeah. And the article you're referring to, I say something along the lines of this

00:04:58.580 trial is definitely a consequence of privilege, but Kyle Rittenhouse isn't the beneficiary of that

00:05:05.260 privilege. He's a victim of that privilege. And what I mean by that is there are two prominent

00:05:10.860 privileges at display here from the beginning of this entire saga in Kenosha and in the trial.

00:05:18.460 And it's primarily Black privilege and leftist privilege. What I mean by that is the whole 0.80

00:05:25.900 issue in Kenosha started because a Black criminal allegedly was abusing his ex-girlfriend,

00:05:36.020 which led her to get a restraining order against him. And then he violated that in one instance

00:05:42.340 and was attempting to perhaps assault her again. And then she called the cops and the cops came to

00:05:47.800 arrest him. This man is Jacob Blake. And then when the cops were trying to arrest him, he was

00:05:53.720 fighting them off and nearly grabbed a knife, which he later admitted is true. He was about to grab a

00:06:00.080 knife, which would have threatened the cops' lives, of course. And the cops ended up shooting him in the

00:06:04.480 back after several warnings. So immediately, the entire, similar to the George Floyd issue, the entire

00:06:12.280 world and cultural institutions ended up attacking the cops as being racist strictly because he was a

00:06:18.700 Black man for no other reason, but because he's a Black man, which led to the riots. And then, of course, 1.00

00:06:24.440 that prompted Kyle Rittenhouse to go to the riots to defend a family friend and to help protect the area

00:06:33.220 that he's very familiar with. And in there are some of the supporters who are leftist white men

00:06:41.800 attacked him. And I've seen the entire video. He clearly was acting in self-defense as a jury

00:06:48.460 recognized as well, too. And these white leftists, these people who are trying to harm him, and one,

00:06:57.860 Gage, I'm forgetting how to say his last name, but the key witness is his first name is Gage. I think

00:07:01.620 it's Grotskowitz, something like that. He, he actually took out a pistol and was about to shoot him in the

00:07:08.740 head before Kyle Rittenhouse. And incredibly, like, he was, he honestly was very brave in his, in his entire

00:07:16.880 demeanor. He ended up shooting him in the arm to keep this man from shooting him in the head. So then this

00:07:22.680 white, perhaps conservative, I can't call him a leftist. I don't know exactly where he is, but he would,

00:07:29.020 assumingly, he is some kind of a conservative. He, he then is, is, is on trial for homicide.

00:07:38.080 Meanwhile, the people who were trying to harm him, who are white leftists, are seen as victims,

00:07:43.600 including the two who were killed and the one that was injured. My point in saying all that is,

00:07:49.140 a lot of conservatives, I think, mistakenly say this is a matter of

00:07:52.780 what Kyle Rittenhouse's skin color. I don't think so necessarily. I think it plays a role,

00:07:58.580 but I think considering that his victims, well, since it victims, because his attackers, his attackers

00:08:04.380 were, were white. I think it's that he is a white conservative. That's the real issue. And it's, 0.58

00:08:12.860 so that's what I'm saying that it's really a matter of black privilege and leftist privilege. If he was a 0.75

00:08:17.220 leftist, he would not have, he would not have been on trial. The same way that Antifa, many of them

00:08:22.060 being leftists have been attacking people for, for several years now, and there's been very little

00:08:27.400 justice against them. Well, and that was part of the thing. I mean, there's, there's so much that

00:08:31.580 we can unpack in what you just said. Let's start with the initial interaction with the police that led to

00:08:37.980 all the rioting, because it, to me, from my perspective, Samuel, so much of it kind of blurs

00:08:42.620 together. There's been so many instances of a, what appears, you know, at first sight to be an

00:08:48.460 instance of police brutality caught on tape. We know that when something's caught on tape, you're

00:08:52.740 not really getting necessarily the full perspective. I remember that with the Covington high school

00:08:57.200 kids, that, that, that all of the, all of the footage that originally came out kind of showed these

00:09:01.700 boys perhaps being the aggressors and, and, and, and, and starting it. And then once we saw the full

00:09:07.120 context, it became very clear that the boys were just, you know, waiting for their bus to bring them

00:09:11.220 back to school. And the, you know, the, the, the other side were the agitators, the, and, and, and

00:09:16.060 it changed the entire perspective. So, so with this specific case, uh, with Jacob, like, I remember

00:09:20.320 this one, uh, pretty distinctly because I just happened to be watching the news closely, uh, when

00:09:25.240 it happened, I took some interest in it because, because like you said, uh, you know, this was an

00:09:29.640 instance of a, of a, of a dangerous criminal who was violating a restraining order by harassing and

00:09:36.360 perhaps even raping his, his former girlfriend. And she is the one that called the police to

00:09:40.840 get him out of there. And once, once the police arrived, he was evading them. And, and, and then

00:09:45.180 it wasn't until he sort of dove into his car to grab at something, we don't know what it was,

00:09:49.680 um, that, that he was shot. So I just, you know, wanted, wanted to know your, your perspective on

00:09:57.100 these cases. Do you think that there is a problem with police brutality in the U S do you think that

00:10:02.260 there is an issue, an underlying issue with, with racism and police, or, or do you think that,

00:10:07.240 that like this case with Jacob black, uh, that the police are for the most part, well-trained

00:10:12.280 and, and, and really just get a bad rap from the, the, the sort of prevalence of, um, people,

00:10:18.660 people focusing on anecdotal evidence and not the statistics and people focusing on the fact

00:10:24.480 that we can now see because of cell phone footage and things like that, we can now see what police

00:10:29.500 interaction with, you know, law enforcement looks like. And, and, and to some people it's just

00:10:34.060 jarring. They don't, they don't like it. So where, where on the spectrum do you, do you lie on that

00:10:37.600 issue? Well, one kind, one example of police brutality is one too many, right? So on, on just on

00:10:46.620 that at all, I will say that of course there is police brutality, but that's true everywhere. I think

00:10:51.420 the issue is that it's completely and utterly overblown. Uh, it's not anywhere near as prevalent

00:10:57.980 as some make it out to be. Um, when it comes to them being well-trained, that's where I would say

00:11:03.200 there's an issue. Um, from my understanding, there is a lack of training involved. Even now,

00:11:09.340 all the talks about police reform, it's really dealing with defunding them, which will just

00:11:13.860 make things worse, of course, or it's just, uh, body cam footage, which is good. But the problem is

00:11:19.660 it's still not going to be dealing with their real issue, which is that they're underfunded actually

00:11:23.980 in many ways and they are not receiving the country in where they need, where the only kind of training

00:11:28.940 they have now is, well, if your life is in danger, shoot. And if your life, if their life is in

00:11:32.940 danger, they should do that. But there are certain things they can learn before that, which would be

00:11:37.100 helpful, um, for them to be, um, to, to avoid being in a situation where their lives are in danger.

00:11:42.940 In terms of the racist aspect, um, in almost all these cases about police brutality against

00:11:50.460 black people, racism is, is, cannot be proved as the basis for this. Uh, even now, people don't

00:11:58.780 want to talk about this, but even the George Floyd issue, which is now considered the most,

00:12:02.540 um, the biggest example of police brutality against the black in a racist fashion, there is no evidence

00:12:09.180 at all that it was racist. You can talk about it being police brutality and everything else, but in

00:12:13.180 terms of the motivations behind it, we don't know that at all. So, um, I don't think there is a case at

00:12:19.340 all of, um, in fact, uh, black police officers are actually much more likely to, um, to be, you know,

00:12:28.060 to, to, to commit police brutality against black people than white people are, than white cops are. 0.64

00:12:33.900 So I don't think racism at all is the issue here. I think it is oftentimes, um, that the cops are

00:12:40.060 justified most of the time in these cases, at least in this major cases, and people just not

00:12:44.940 understanding what good police work really looks like. And then you see these videos and they think,

00:12:49.100 well, wait a minute, these cops are being aggressive. Well, they have to be aggressive.

00:12:52.700 Otherwise, yeah, otherwise they'll not go home that night. We've, you know, we talk a lot about

00:12:59.820 these interactions when it comes to police being the aggressors in times. Well, uh, in America,

00:13:04.700 every year, 50 cops are killed. Um, and that's actually much more than the number of unarmed black

00:13:11.260 people that they kill. Right. It's significantly more than many imagine. So these cops are, are aware

00:13:18.140 that oftentimes if they, if they don't, um, if they're not aggressive in defending their lives,

00:13:23.100 they will not go home. Right. And okay. So then in your, in your article, you talk about in your essay,

00:13:28.380 you talk about what you call black privilege. So, so after, after, uh, Jacob Blake was shot,

00:13:33.820 he wasn't killed, but he was, I believe, paralyzed. Um, we, we immediately saw the reaction,

00:13:40.060 which looked very similar to the George Floyd reaction where, you know, there were some

00:13:44.140 honest to goodness protesters who were just out there saying, we don't like the system.

00:13:47.820 We don't like what's going on in our community. But then what we see is there's always a sort of,

00:13:52.460 you know, bad apples that, that take advantage of the situation and they want to go out and they

00:13:56.700 want to riot. And it seemed like, uh, one of the individuals that, that, that was killed this

00:14:01.340 evening by, um, from the gun of Kyle Rittenhouse, uh, was one of these individuals. This guy had spent a

00:14:06.140 bunch of time in prison. He was a pedophile. He, he was a sex offender. Um, he, he just was like,

00:14:11.180 seemed like a pretty bad dude. Um, not black. He was white. And, and he was one of the people, 0.99

00:14:15.660 but, but it seems like when, whenever there's a case of, of, of sort of justice, the justice system

00:14:21.340 coming up in the public face, you know, there's that mix. And, you know, we see, I believe that the,

00:14:27.820 the, the, you know, the funny CNN chyron that, um, fiery yet peaceful protests came from this

00:14:32.700 Kenosha riot, but, but, but from watching this, this, uh, trial, you know, all of the elements

00:14:38.860 were there. They were rioting, they were rioting. And Samuel, we saw it over the weekend. So I, I used

00:14:43.180 to live in San Francisco. I spent a few years living there and I saw some footage from San

00:14:47.900 Francisco from Walnut Creek of basically just people taking advantage of this, this outcome

00:14:54.380 to go and loot and riot, very expensive stores. We're talking about Louis Vuitton and Nordstrom.

00:14:59.340 Uh, I think we have some, some footage of that. So, so we're going to play, uh, this clip and then,

00:15:04.060 and then I'll get you to react. So, so let's see what that looked like.

00:15:06.460 Like a well-organized operation, people sprinted to waiting cars, carrying bags full of merchandise

00:15:13.340 from Nordstrom's in Walnut Creek Saturday night. I saw people running down the street. I probably saw

00:15:18.300 50 to 80 people in like ski masks, crowbars, night, like a bunch of weapons. In one dramatic scene,

00:15:24.540 a car veered around a police SUV to make a getaway, but another officer stopped him with his gun drawn.

00:15:30.860 Three people were arrested. All are charged with robbery. One of them is also charged with being

00:15:35.580 a felon in possession of a gun. NBC Bay Area has obtained a still image from a security camera

00:15:41.340 inside Nordstrom's during the robbery. A company spokesperson says five of their employees were

00:15:46.780 injured. Police saying at least three workers were assaulted, one with pepper spray. And tonight,

00:15:51.980 there is still cause for concern. Walnut Creek police took to social media warning about the

00:15:56.700 possibility of another robbery. Some high-end shops like Tiffany's closed early. Janet Catalano and Marnie

00:16:03.420 Pantar were the last customers in the store as staff locked their doors. How are they in there?

00:16:08.620 They're a little nervous. They are a little nervous for sure, as, as I would be too, if I worked retail

00:16:14.300 in this area right now. In a prepared statement, the mayor of Walnut Creek says the city is actively

00:16:20.060 working to try to prevent any of these incidents from happening here again. And you can see that

00:16:24.940 they are already taking efforts. The street going through Broadway Plaza Mall has been blocked off

00:16:30.620 for most of the day. And police officers are everywhere. Nordstrom's is still closed. A bit of

00:16:35.660 an inconvenience for customer Frank Augustin, who couldn't return a pair of shoes. It's such a shame

00:16:40.700 that, you know, we have to worry about this. I mean, you see it in San Francisco at, you know,

00:16:44.780 with the Louis Vuitton on Friday night. The situation in Walnut Creek coming just 24 hours

00:16:49.340 after a similar robbery in San Francisco. Nine stores were either burglarized or vandalized.

00:16:54.620 Some store workers were also injured. There have been eight arrests so far. And San Francisco's

00:16:59.980 police chief says there will be more. In Walnut Creek, Sergio Quintana, NBC Bay Area News.

00:17:05.340 So Samuel, so maybe you can help us break down this phenomenon. Why do people get away with

00:17:12.460 this kind of looting and rioting in the aftermath of a public decision? And why do you describe all of

00:17:17.580 this as black privilege? Yeah, I think there's two reasons behind it. One is there's a soft bigotry of

00:17:25.740 low expectations for black people in that people think so lowly of black people that they think, well,

00:17:31.180 what do you expect when they have, when there's, you know, so-called living under oppression.

00:17:37.100 Therefore, then that they expect us to live like animals where we just end up going around scrapping

00:17:42.060 for goods. Or so that's, that's the first reason. The other reason is, and I think this is a much more

00:17:49.660 sinister reason behind all of this, is that black privilege exists because leftist and critical race 0.80

00:17:55.980 there is want to use racism as a basis for changing the system, as a basis for creating a revolution.

00:18:03.340 I think that is what's really at play here, is that they don't, the reason why they would defend

00:18:07.900 and utilize, eulogize and speak well of pedophiles and, you know, and abusers is because they're willing

00:18:15.740 to use anything they possibly can to change the system. So Kyle Rittenhouse really isn't, they don't,

00:18:21.980 they hate Kyle Rittenhouse, but only because he is an example of a person who is defending or who

00:18:28.460 still supports the American constitution, in that he still believes in second amendment, of course,

00:18:33.340 because he had that, you know, that rifle with him. And I think it's really about changing the system and

00:18:39.180 changing America's founding principles, or really Western principles, and not so much these individual

00:18:45.660 cases. Well, yeah, so one of the things that came out, so I'll just say, when the case, this trial,

00:18:51.580 the facts of it first came out before it was a trial, but just when it hit the media that some

00:18:55.900 people were killed during these riots, and it seemed like, you know, it was a white, it was some kind of

00:19:01.260 a white nationalist or white supremacist that was, you know, they're shooting it up. That's sort of the

00:19:05.340 impression that we got from the media. And it wasn't really until you look at the facts of the case,

00:19:10.140 when it became the trial, you start to look at some of the video footage, where it became pretty obvious,

00:19:15.100 pretty evident, Sam, that this was a case of self-defense. You know, I saw a video of this

00:19:19.180 young man, and he was talking about how he was there to provide first aid. So he had his medical

00:19:24.540 kit right on him. You know, he just said the gun is for self-defense. And then right in the middle

00:19:29.420 of an interview, he ran off because he was trying to help somebody. So it seemed like someone who was

00:19:33.340 there, yes, to defend the property of a family friend who owned a car dealership where the cars were

00:19:37.980 getting torched, and there was millions of dollars in damage every night. But he was also like a,

00:19:42.940 he was a good citizen, you know, you could describe him as someone who was there

00:19:47.900 to help maintain order in a very chaotic time in American life. And yet, like you said, because of

00:19:54.540 the way he looked, because of perhaps the principles that he was upholding, the media just did their best

00:19:59.180 to demonize him in a way that that was so divorced from reality after watching the facts of this case.

00:20:05.660 And we saw some of that in Canada, too. Sam, I just want to read a couple of the

00:20:10.780 kind of reactions that we saw. So Jagmeet Singh, who's a leader of the NDP party,

00:20:14.780 a leader of a political party in Canada, he says this,

00:20:17.980 I knew today's verdict is painful for many. It feels like another failure by a broken system designed

00:20:23.020 to protect some and hurt others. For those that carry such grief and must continue to witness denials

00:20:28.940 of justice. My heart is with you. So first of all, he's saying that the US, he's commenting on the

00:20:34.780 justice system of a foreign country, saying that it is a broken system that is designed to protect 0.99

00:20:40.700 some and hurt others. And then he says flat out that it's a denial of justice. So I suppose Jagmeet Singh

00:20:47.500 would rather see a young man convicted of murder, a murder that he didn't commit. He didn't commit

00:20:52.220 murder. He was found not guilty of that. He was acting in self-defense. So why is it that people

00:20:59.500 like Jagmeet Singh, and I mean, there's others, Toronto Star writer, Sri Pardikar, I think that's

00:21:07.740 how you pronounce her name, Sri Pardikar. She writes, damn the laws that acquit Kyle Rittenhouse,

00:21:13.020 for they show no care for justice. So no care for justice. Charles Adler, popular radio host,

00:21:19.020 used to be a conservative, but now he's gone the other direction. He says, there are those who think

00:21:23.960 that if Kyle Rittenhouse was a young African American, the verdict would be the same. I am

00:21:27.700 not one of those. What do you think of these Canadians commenting? And what do you think of

00:21:33.120 their take on the US justice system? Yeah. You know, we all know that America absolutely influences

00:21:40.280 Canada, and that we there are a lot of similarities there. But when you are a an elected official,

00:21:47.800 and you're commenting, as you said, on a foreign, on a foreign nation's

00:21:51.880 system, essentially, that is, that is, that's a major problem. But the reason why Jagmeet Singh is

00:21:58.740 saying that is because he believes the same thing about Canada. He believes that our system is also

00:22:03.920 broken, and it's only designed for a particular kind of people and to harm other people. I mean,

00:22:08.840 AOC said the same thing. AOC is really his counterpart in the US. And AOC said the same thing about

00:22:13.760 that American system, that basically, it's designed for white supremacists, to protect white people and

00:22:19.520 to harm non white people. And this is really a very, very important thing. I think a lot of us 1.00

00:22:25.140 conservatives are focusing on the wrong issue here, we're focusing on the racial aspect here. And

00:22:31.340 that I mean, that is true. This is really about a racial issue. But, but the racial issue, as I said

00:22:36.140 earlier, is being used as a basis to change the system in America and in Canada, that critical race

00:22:42.420 theories and leftists believe that our Western system is broken. They truly believe that it was,

00:22:48.180 it was designed to be broken, to, for everybody else and to privilege, to privilege other white 0.86

00:22:54.900 people. So when Joe Biden himself also called Kyra in the House, a white supremacist, they know he's

00:23:01.620 not, they didn't, they don't care. They're just saying that the entire system that people like him

00:23:06.680 want to defend is white supremacy. And therefore, they need to change the system,

00:23:12.440 and then to truly get rid of due process, which is why they ignoring that a vert, that there was a

00:23:17.600 verdict reached by a jury. They're ignoring all that because they believe that entire system

00:23:22.160 is meant to, to support white supremacy and white privilege. So I think that the real issue here is

00:23:28.820 that we need to recognize that these Canadians and these Americans who are angry at the verdicts,

00:23:34.040 at least not all of them, but many of them, some of them don't know the facts, right? But those who

00:23:37.740 do know the facts, they're simply ignoring the facts as a means to change the system into a more

00:23:43.320 socialist and, or so-called anti-racist and communist system.

00:23:48.460 Well, it's just so interesting that, again, from watching the facts of this case, Samuel,

00:23:52.780 the thing that seemed unfair to me was the fact that this was even on trial. The fact that this was

00:23:57.080 even a high profile case, because as soon as the facts were there, I mean, all they had to do is

00:24:01.400 prove reasonable doubt. And, and, and, and surely it wasn't, it wasn't like they described. And I'm

00:24:06.880 surprised that a prosecutor would have even taken this case up. You know, you said that many of them

00:24:11.580 don't really know the facts of the case. I'm not trying to pick on Robin Urbeck here, because I think

00:24:15.400 she's a really good writer, but this is what she put on, on, on Twitter. And it kind of just goes with

00:24:20.200 our conversations. I'm going to read it out. And pardon my language, because I'm going to read what

00:24:23.260 she writes. And it's not, it's not entirely, it's not, it's not entirely sanitized. But anyway,

00:24:31.020 she says, notwithstanding how much of an asshole this guy is for carrying around a rifle during a

00:24:35.360 protest, like a dress up GI Joe doll, the prosecution's case here was pretty tough. The

00:24:40.120 defense didn't have to prove Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense. The prosecution had to

00:24:43.520 disprove it. So it seems like my takeaway from that tweet was that, that, that Robin was mostly

00:24:48.460 offended by the way this guy looked, right? She, she called him an asshole and she said he was

00:24:52.240 dressed up like a GI Joe doll. I, you know, I travel around the world and I know that a lot of,

00:24:57.320 in a lot of places where the situation is chaotic and unstable, that you see weapons, you see people,

00:25:02.720 usually military, but in some, in some places you see plainclothes officers, like in Israel,

00:25:07.140 you go just about anywhere in Israel and you see people with weapons across your chest in the same

00:25:12.580 way that Kyle Rittenhouse looked like, because they're there to protect people in case of, in case of

00:25:17.460 any kind of an attack. And, and, you know, some people might not like that, that that's the reality

00:25:21.880 in the United States, but, but you mentioned the second amendment and that's part of it. And it 0.89

00:25:25.740 didn't seem like from the interviews that I saw of Kyle Rittenhouse the night of the protest,

00:25:29.860 you know, he, he wasn't there as a vigilante. He was there again to keep order and to, to try to

00:25:33.940 protect people. And, and, and yet again, because of the way he looks, I think it's turned into this

00:25:39.860 racial animosity. And the other thing, Samuel, is that the three people that got shot that night

00:25:44.040 were all white. They were all sort of Antifa type rebel rousers that looked, seemed like from all

00:25:49.480 the evidence that we saw in the case, were there to cause no good. The fellow you mentioned, Gabe,

00:25:53.960 who, who drew a gun and, and tried to shoot Kyle Rittenhouse in the head, he was there as an ACLU

00:25:58.940 observer. So he, he's sort of part of the leftist institutions that we're supposed to revere and

00:26:03.620 respect if you're watching the legacy media. And yet, you know, from, from his own testimony on the

00:26:08.560 stands, it seemed to me that he was, he was much more there as a criminal, as opposed to a peaceful

00:26:14.200 protester. So a final question for you, you know, all of this is just to say, what's, what's the kind

00:26:19.760 of takeaway that we can have? And what can conservatives do to sort of push back against all, you know,

00:26:25.040 this entire cultural war that we find ourselves in the middle of?

00:26:30.160 Yeah, I think, you know,

00:26:31.620 we, we need to recognize that honestly, a lot of white people, white Canadians, white Americans need

00:26:38.680 to be, uh, need to stop being afraid of being called white supremacists or, or, or white privileged,

00:26:43.980 because they believe that about every white person, especially if you're a conservative,

00:26:47.580 you just need to know that they're saying that really because of the view of Western, uh, the

00:26:53.340 Western system, the Western society. And really, it's not really about you, because if you support

00:26:57.960 Black Lives Matter, then they say, okay, then you are the good kind of white person then.

00:27:01.260 So it's really just an attack on you and your, and your good principles is not because of your

00:27:07.000 character, because with Clyde Roadhouse, they didn't know anything about his character. They

00:27:10.080 were simply attacking him instead of his attackers, instead of the criminals who were trying to end

00:27:15.540 his life, because they were supporting Black Lives Matter. They were on the right side by supporting

00:27:21.580 the riots. But if you are against the riots, then you are the enemy. So just knowing that it's not

00:27:26.080 really an attack against, um, your character was an attack against your principles.

00:27:31.260 Um, I think also just recognizing what critical race theory is, um, you know, as I mentioned

00:27:36.600 before, this is really about leftist privilege and Black privilege and not white privilege.

00:27:40.920 Um, that is what these guys wants, what the leftists want. They want to change America. They

00:27:47.020 want to change Canada and, and to, and to get rid of the founding principles that, that created

00:27:52.000 these nations. And they're willing to use things like this. They're willing to use racial issues and

00:27:57.180 every issue as a, as a way to manipulate and indoctrinate people into wanting to get rid of

00:28:03.200 the system, a system that would actually help someone like Kyle Rittenhouse from being a victim

00:28:08.760 of mob justice.

00:28:10.400 Right. Well, protect them from being wrongfully accused. I mean, that used to be a cornerstone of

00:28:15.640 our society. And we're so proud of due process and the rule of law. And today it seems like those

00:28:19.600 things are demonized. Well, Samuel, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for your brilliant

00:28:23.460 writing over at slow to write.com. We really appreciate hearing from you. Thank you so much

00:28:27.520 for joining us.

00:28:28.400 Thank you so much.

00:28:29.640 All right. Thanks for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm show.

The Candice Malcolm Show - November 22, 2021

The Canadian Left respond to the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

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