The Candice Malcolm Show - September 14, 2021


The CBC is the media arm of the Liberal Party of Canada


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Candice Malan explains how the CBC treated Conservative Party of Canada Leader Aaron O'Toole and Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau at a town hall-style debate hosted by the Liberal party. She also explains why the CBC should have asked more conservative questions.

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00:00:00.000 It's Justin Trudeau's turn for a town hall over at CBC, proving once and for all that CBC is the media arm of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:00:08.460 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:15.440 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in.
00:00:17.600 So on yesterday's show, we covered Conservative Party of Canada leader Erin O'Toole, who joined CBC for a town hall discussion.
00:00:24.660 The event was built as an opportunity to speak to undecided voters and learn more about the issues that matter to Canadians.
00:00:32.060 The only problem is that that's not what happened at all.
00:00:35.460 Instead, CBC trotted out four young voters, each of whom outed themselves either as Liberal voters or far-left activists.
00:00:43.980 The themes of the questions were all based on the issues that matter to Liberal voters.
00:00:48.020 We know that because True North did a scientific poll that showed that Liberal voters care about climate change and they care about COVID-19.
00:00:56.420 Whereas Conservative voters don't really care about those issues at all, Conservative voters care about government spending, government debt, jobs and the economy.
00:01:05.160 So CBC put O'Toole in the hot seat opposite Liberal partisan activist Rosemary Barton, the one who pretends to be a journalist but really is a big fan of Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party.
00:01:14.860 And she twisted every single question to match the Liberal spin, the Liberal talking points and the Liberal lies that get pushed out through this election. 0.89
00:01:24.060 Now on top of that, Rosemary Barton was indignant. 0.99
00:01:26.960 She was rude.
00:01:27.860 She was condescending.
00:01:29.240 And she showed that she clearly does not like Conservatives.
00:01:32.320 She clearly has no patience for Conservative ideas or the Conservative worldview.
00:01:36.980 Her line of question was biased.
00:01:38.540 It was based on Liberal lies.
00:01:40.080 And her anti-Conservative bias was shining through all night long.
00:01:43.400 Well, that's because the CBC just isn't very good at hiding their bias.
00:01:47.640 So last night, to provide the perfect contrast to that event with Aaron O'Toole, we had Liberal leader Dustin Trudeau join the exact same program in the exact same format just to show us how differently the CBC treats Conservatives versus how they treat their own Liberals.
00:02:03.380 So remember, on Sunday night, Conservative leader Aaron O'Toole was asked more or less four left-wing questions that at least the line of attack was from the left.
00:02:11.300 So he was asked about giving government daycare to middle and upper-income families.
00:02:16.200 He was asked about the trans community and how he would protect trans people's feelings.
00:02:21.000 I don't really understand how that's federal jurisdiction, but that was the question.
00:02:24.300 He was asked about climate change and how he's going to deal with the fact that many in his caucus don't share the same views about wanting to have a carbon tax as he does.
00:02:32.880 And he was asked about his housing plan by an immigrant to Canada who talked about how Canada was a racist country.
00:02:40.620 And he also happened to tout Justin Trudeau's strategy in Afghanistan, even though by most accounts, by most people who are experts on what's happening in Afghanistan, Trudeau has made a tremendous series of blunders.
00:02:52.920 But regardless, we had an individual who said that he liked Trudeau's plan and he wanted Aaron O'Toole to continue that.
00:02:59.360 So all of the questions, even if they weren't left-wing questions, they were framed or asked in a left-wing way.
00:03:04.620 And host Rosemary Barden made it all so much worse by pressuring Aaron O'Toole and doubling down on all the liberal partisan attacks we've seen throughout this election campaign.
00:03:13.240 So she asked him about guns, about systemic racism in Canada, she talked about climate alarmism, and she really misrepresented and did a dishonest job of promoting the liberals' conversion therapy bill and taking the conservative position on that out of context.
00:03:28.720 So this time around, if the CBC were fair and balanced, if they were a legitimate news organization that treats all political parties the same, they would have asked Justin Trudeau for conservative questions, including shutting down Parliament to avoid the We Charity investigation, various ethics violations that Justin Trudeau has been found guilty of, the whole idea that Justin Trudeau pretends to be a feminist, whereas behind closed doors, he treats women very, very poorly and has a very bad track record of that.
00:03:56.460 We would talk a lot about the out-of-control government debt and spending, the increased cost of living because of his printing of money and hyperinflation, dividing the country by attacking and dehumanizing the populist rallies, and his party's despicable, despicable record when it comes to sexual misconduct and the resulting cover-ups.
00:04:15.920 But instead, of course, none of that really happened.
00:04:17.880 Some of those issues were sort of vaguely touched upon, but there's no way that Rosemary Barton pressed and pressured Trudeau the same way that she did when it came to O'Toole.
00:04:27.160 So instead, Justin Trudeau got loving softball questions that confirm his exact worldview and reflect the things that he's been trying to say throughout the whole campaign, really reflect his message of the campaign.
00:04:38.560 So right on that topic, first we heard from one questioner who basically condemned Canada as a horrible and racist country and talked about this one incident that she was apparently the victim of a hate crime, or at least a racist person in a grocery store.
00:04:51.240 And we saw Justin Trudeau sweep in to basically apologize for Canada, say that Canada is this terrible, awful country, and we like to pretend it isn't, but really it is.
00:05:00.460 And then he makes an insane remark that is patently untrue.
00:05:04.240 He says that there are millions of hate crimes that happen in Canada, which is absolutely ridiculous, not even close to being true.
00:05:11.420 But it allows Trudeau to continue with his line of attack that, you know, his favorite topic is condemning Canadians as racist, especially if you're a conservative voter, you're just beyond the pale.
00:05:21.160 And allowed Trudeau to shift and go to his new favorite topic, which is demonizing the populist protesters, pretending that they are entirely at fault for COVID and the fourth wave.
00:05:33.620 This magical thinking that if just everyone in the country got vaccinated, COVID would go away.
00:05:38.140 That's not true.
00:05:38.820 I know lots of people who have been vaccinated for COVID and have still gotten COVID.
00:05:43.780 So just because you're vaccinated doesn't make this go away.
00:05:46.160 It's really magical thinking that he has, regardless, this is what Trudeau loves to do, and he really loves to dehumanize those who have valid concerns about forced vaccinations and vaccine passports.
00:05:57.920 So here is what that question and that exchange looked like.
00:06:01.360 Hi, everyone.
00:06:02.240 My name is Pooja Begri, and I'm from Toronto, Ontario.
00:06:05.320 I recently just completed my PhD from McMaster University, specializing in immunology, and I currently work in the health research sector.
00:06:13.400 You know, I've always been proud to be Canadian, and I truly do embrace Canadian values.
00:06:18.840 But like you just heard, recently when I was at the grocery store, a complete stranger came up to me and told me to go back to my country.
00:06:26.780 And then I continued to face a tirade of racist remarks while everyone remained silent and no one stepped in to help.
00:06:33.100 You know, born and raised in Toronto, Canada is my country.
00:06:37.080 And so this was a very jarring experience for me.
00:06:39.660 And then we continued to hear about horrific hate-motivated crimes occurring across the country, like the incident in London, Ontario, that tragically took the lives of almost an entire family.
00:06:52.500 And so it's very perplexing to me to understand, you know, regular Canadians like me going about our daily lives can't even go out on a walk or go to the grocery store without fearing for our safety.
00:07:03.420 So what I want to know is, what do you, as a leader, plan to do to ensure that Canadians from all walks of life, all walks of life, feel safe and protected?
00:07:13.360 And just seeing some of the things that have been happening during your campaign stops, you know, it just really worries me.
00:07:20.140 And it makes me wonder that if someone like you could face such a barrage of anger, then what about regular folks like me?
00:07:26.820 How vulnerable am I?
00:07:28.780 So how can you make me and others like me feel safe?
00:07:32.360 Thank you, Pooja.
00:07:33.320 And let me start by saying I am so sorry for what you had to go through and, unfortunately, what millions of Canadians continue to face.
00:07:42.060 We want to try and say, well, this, Canada's not like that.
00:07:45.020 Canada's not that country.
00:07:46.720 But we have to accept that it is, in some cases.
00:07:50.780 Certainly, ask the Afzal family in London. 1.00
00:07:54.580 Okay, next, Trudeau was asked about the economic recovery, right?
00:07:58.580 Okay, here we go.
00:07:59.340 A good question.
00:07:59.940 A question about economics.
00:08:01.280 But, wait a minute, the entire question was framed in the context of creating something called economic equity.
00:08:08.120 Economic equity.
00:08:09.180 So we're not talking about equality of opportunity here.
00:08:12.120 When we're talking about equity, we're talking about the Marxist idea of forced equality.
00:08:16.740 So equality of outcome.
00:08:18.300 So instead of talking about actual economic recovery and making sure we have the right conditions to create jobs in this country,
00:08:25.160 instead the conversation was focused on providing more welfare to the unemployed and discussions about universal basic income,
00:08:32.980 which is a socialist idea where the government pays everyone a salary regardless of whether they work or not.
00:08:38.920 So not really about jobs in the economy at all, but instead about socialism and more cradle-to-grave welfare.
00:08:45.640 This is what that exchange looked like.
00:08:47.320 My name is Ty Simpson.
00:08:49.440 I am 29 years old, and I live just north of Bowmanville, Ontario, with my parents, Neil and Suzanne,
00:08:56.080 and my fox red Labrador retriever, Finn.
00:08:59.400 For the past two and a half years, I have been working at a big box retail operation near my parents' home.
00:09:05.660 Should you be re-elected, what would you do to address the growing income and equity in this country and improve the lives of low-income workers,
00:09:15.620 many of which, such as myself, were asked to continue working through the pandemic despite an increased risk to their safety?
00:09:22.560 We saw that people who were already vulnerable, either economically or for other reasons, were made more vulnerable by the pandemic,
00:09:29.780 and that's certainly the situation you were in.
00:09:32.200 So whether it's better access to education if you want to go back to school, better supports for artists,
00:09:38.420 or better support for you and your partner to be able to buy their home with a real housing strategy
00:09:44.120 that's going to put more money into your pocket and support in the creation of supply,
00:09:48.860 there's lots of things that we need to do, and we want to be there to support you on it.
00:09:52.840 Okay, next question. This one was actually really good. Credit where credit is due.
00:09:56.460 This young man had an excellent line of questioning. He asked about fiscal restraint, about shutting down the economy over COVID.
00:10:02.660 He talked about rising inflation, and he really had a great line of questioning.
00:10:07.680 But rather than answering those important questions, Trudeau just pivoted towards COVID, blaming the unvaccinated again,
00:10:14.140 talking more about how he wants to give more government handouts, including money to help people buy a home,
00:10:20.080 and more government childcare.
00:10:22.140 So he didn't really talk about the economic side at all, and when Rosemary Barton jumped in,
00:10:27.020 rather than pressing him on talking about the economics of things, what about government spending?
00:10:32.460 How are you going to pay off the debt? What is your plan to grow the economy?
00:10:37.200 Trudeau never really addressed how he's going to pay the bills or what the impact of his spending will be on the cost of living.
00:10:43.900 And instead of really pushing back like he did with O'Toole, Rosemary Barton just sort of lets him make his statement,
00:10:50.440 lets him pivot to talk more about welfare, and never really gets to the heart of those spending questions.
00:10:55.260 Here is what that looked like.
00:10:57.080 Hi, my name is Ahmed Hassan. I'm a renewable energy contractor and entrepreneur living in Edmonton, Alberta.
00:11:03.700 I'm a diehard Raptors fan and technology enthusiast. In my free time, I enjoy reading, watching documentaries, and spending time with my family.
00:11:11.500 I am an undecided voter of this election because none of the party's platforms fully resonate with me.
00:11:17.720 This election, the issues on my mind are the economy post-COVID-19, personal health freedoms, and the rising division within Canada.
00:11:25.380 My question is, being from Alberta, we've been through some pretty rough economic times, and COVID-19 and extended lockdowns only amplify this.
00:11:36.800 My question to you, Prime Minister, is the cost of goods and services has increased while our purchasing power has decreased.
00:11:42.780 What are you going to do to get the economy back on track, and where are you going to draw the line between economic stimuli and fiasco restraint?
00:11:52.260 But according to Stat Canada, inflation is 3.7% right now. Canadian life is getting more expensive by the day.
00:12:00.780 What are you going to do to curb inflation rates and reassure Canadians about the economy?
00:12:06.480 First thing is getting done with COVID. We have to get through that.
00:12:10.440 But then, as we rebuild, we have to learn the lessons we learned during COVID, which is women got hit harder by this COVID recession. 0.96
00:12:19.240 Minorities, young people, got hit harder by this COVID recession.
00:12:23.480 So we have to respond to those things and understand the intensity of the crisis of COVID, similar to the intensity of the crisis on climate.
00:12:32.740 And finally, probably the most ridiculous question of all, the fourth question, they brought out a First Nations person who is actually from one of the reserves who claimed to have found unmarked graves on their property in the summer.
00:12:45.800 One of the big sort of bombshell reports that we heard about with these reserves claiming to have found unmarked graves, this specific one in Kawasis and First Nations, there was a lot of issues with this.
00:12:55.860 First of all, one of the band members came out after the announcement and said that the graves that were discovered, first of all, they were in an existing cemetery.
00:13:04.240 It wasn't like they just found graves that were at a former residential school.
00:13:08.440 It was actually in a graveyard.
00:13:10.120 The graveyard didn't just belong to the First Nations.
00:13:12.560 It belonged to the entire community.
00:13:14.300 So we heard stories, like I said, from that band leader who said that the graves belonged to both First Nations and non-First Nations, both children and adults.
00:13:23.580 So this was one of those issues where the media totally took that story out of context, made it seem like the worst of the worst, like confirmed the worst of the worst about Canada's history and our past.
00:13:33.280 And we're really dishonest about the story in its entirety.
00:13:36.840 I wrote a lot about that.
00:13:38.720 You can go check out some of my reports.
00:13:40.180 There's one called Six Things the Media Got Wrong about the Unmarked Grave Stories.
00:13:45.600 Go check that out if you haven't already, because I really go through all of this in detail.
00:13:49.860 Regardless, they brought out a woman from that reserve to talk about reconciliation.
00:13:54.500 This is one of those issues that Canadians don't really care about.
00:13:56.980 The media really hyped this up, drum this up like it was going to be a huge election issue.
00:14:01.120 When we polled Canadians here at True North, the people who thought that reconciliation was the number one issue of the campaign was really, really low.
00:14:08.740 For both liberal, conservative, undecided voters, nobody told us that this was an issue that was top of mind.
00:14:14.320 So it's really interesting to see the media focus so much on this issue as if it's the most important issue in the country.
00:14:20.040 That's just not what Canadians told us in our polls.
00:14:22.840 Regardless, because the CBC knows nothing about Western Canada, they kind of billed this as a question about both the West and about reconciliation.
00:14:31.700 So it allowed Trudeau to talk more about his sort of empty plans to help First Nations people.
00:14:37.160 Look, he's been prime minister for six years.
00:14:38.860 If he was really committed to ending the water boil advisories, he would have done it already.
00:14:44.580 Trudeau doesn't care about this issue either, but it gives him the opportunity to flout his big ideas and make him look like he's going to solve everything.
00:14:53.960 And again, because the CBC doesn't know anything about Western Canada, they think that this is the same issue.
00:14:58.320 So it's the West and reconciliation as if those two issues had anything in common.
00:15:02.780 But when they did finally start talking about the West, what did they talk about?
00:15:07.140 How Justin Trudeau wants to shut down the resource economy.
00:15:10.600 He wants to, again, spend money that we don't have, basically pay the provinces, shut down natural resources and what?
00:15:17.300 Like take the money and learn to code instead?
00:15:19.340 I mean, it's such a ridiculous pie in the sky idea that we would just shut down the major tenants of our economy without anything to replace them.
00:15:26.600 But again, it just shows how out of touch the CBC is with Western Canada and how clueless Justin Trudeau is and how weak he is when it comes to the economy and real issues in the West.
00:15:36.820 Western alienation, feelings that, you know, that all the decisions in Canada get made in Ottawa or Quebec and that everything in Western Canada is kind of an afterthought.
00:15:46.760 This show, the way that this question was buried at the bottom really did confirm that Western Canada is an afterthought to these elites in Ottawa.
00:15:55.020 So here is what that line of questioning looked like.
00:15:57.380 Hi there, my name is Dodie Ferguson and I'm an undecided voter.
00:16:01.400 I come from a farming and ranching family from the Cows' First Nation here in Treaty 4 territory.
00:16:05.840 I am also very passionate about helping Canadians understand this concept of reconciliation to help them along their journey and hopefully help them write relations with us as Indigenous people so we can have a mutually respectful and beneficial relationship.
00:16:18.460 What can you tell me that would encourage me to vote for you as I have in the past, I waffle between a couple of parties, what can you tell me that would encourage me to vote Liberal this time around, taking into consideration the future for my children and my grandchildren as Indigenous workers in Canada?
00:16:34.840 So those are really great actions of reconciliation that the government has enacted in this country.
00:16:40.400 I'm looking more towards how do we do reconciliation in terms of economics, in terms of labour, in terms of relations that we as Indigenous people who are workers and contribute in this economy, how do we tie reconciliation along with the economy and labour and employment?
00:16:57.300 You know, Dodie, you mentioned you're from Cowessess or your roots are in Cowessess.
00:17:02.860 When I was there, we got to sign a deal with Cadmus DeLorme, the chief there, to make sure that kids who are at risk in the community get kept in the community, in their language, in their culture, not taken out to non-Indigenous foster homes.
00:17:18.080 Because that knowing identity and strength in grounding in your community is part of being able to succeed and contribute in the future.
00:17:28.360 So those are concrete things we've done together that all comes into making sure there are full opportunities for your kids and grandkids.
00:17:35.100 And finally, after each question, Rosemary Barton was allowed to herself jump in and have a follow-up line of questions. 1.00
00:17:41.200 We saw with Erin O'Toole that she really insulted him, she misrepresented his position, and she pushed liberal talking points. 0.96
00:17:48.040 So to be fair, True North wants to show you what it looked like.
00:17:51.480 Because Rosemary Barton really did push Justin Trudeau back a little bit, but it was so gentle in comparison to the way that she treated Erin O'Toole. 0.56
00:17:59.280 So we want to compare apples to apples.
00:18:00.800 Here is a little montage of the hardest moments that Rosemary Barton pushed against Conservative leader Erin O'Toole on Sunday night
00:18:07.480 versus the hardest moments that she pushed against Liberal leader Justin Trudeau on Monday night.
00:18:13.440 Here is what that looks like.
00:18:14.720 If you are such a good leader, if you really can lead by example, convince people in your caucus this is the right way forward,
00:18:22.920 is this not evidence that you can't do it?
00:18:24.640 You said that over the years you end up carrying a number of things.
00:18:28.060 That sounds to me like someone who's admitting he's got some baggage after being in government for a while.
00:18:32.800 You've had three ethics investigations.
00:18:34.760 One of them concluded that there was a breach.
00:18:36.480 Two others did not.
00:18:37.480 Is the baggage from being around for a while, being the prime minister,
00:18:42.440 starting to get in the way of Canadians trusting you and wanting to give you another chance?
00:18:46.440 Systemic racism, it does not appear on your party's platform.
00:18:49.220 You've been asked about it on the campaign trail.
00:18:51.200 That seems strange to me.
00:18:52.720 We have issues of systemic racism in this country.
00:18:55.440 Do you believe we have issues of systemic racism that we need to deal with?
00:18:59.020 And if you do, why wouldn't you put it in your platform?
00:19:01.260 In 2015, you promised to eliminate all boil water advisories in Indigenous communities.
00:19:07.480 I wonder, and then just recently, of course, you said we're not going to meet that deadline.
00:19:11.900 I wonder if it was a mistake to make, create that expectation, to suggest that it could take that amount of time.
00:19:19.040 Then you can show ambition.
00:19:20.580 We now have new ones, right?
00:19:22.000 Mr. Trudeau changed his targets twice.
00:19:24.180 The world changed their targets.
00:19:26.000 Mr. Trudeau changed Canada's targets twice.
00:19:28.200 You have to update the targets after two years.
00:19:30.340 In the 10 days after we release it.
00:19:32.520 Missions aren't dropping yet.
00:19:33.820 I know experts say that we will get to the 30%, Mark.
00:19:37.140 The 36%. 0.96
00:19:37.940 36%, you're quite right.
00:19:39.460 Why are you so confident, though, that you can raise the targets again,
00:19:43.680 given that it did take probably too long to get to where we're going to be?
00:19:47.400 It's restricting the Beretta storm weapon used at the Dawson College shooting, for instance.
00:19:53.220 How is that political?
00:19:54.460 What is the political decision that goes into restricting that firearm?
00:19:58.340 On what planet does that firearm need to be part of what is allowed in this country?
00:20:03.100 You've now promised increased spending $78 billion over five years.
00:20:07.000 Given the employment numbers this last week, end of last week, that were good,
00:20:10.260 given economic growth, how can you justify that continued amount of stimulus?
00:20:14.160 What would you say to Canadians about why you still need to spend that kind of money?
00:20:17.900 Well, there you have it, folks.
00:20:18.680 I'll let you make up your own mind about whether you thought that Rosemary Barton
00:20:21.740 treated the two leaders equally and whether she was being fair and balanced.
00:20:25.400 But I will leave you with one fact.
00:20:27.440 This is the third election campaign in a row where Justin Trudeau, the Liberal leader,
00:20:32.060 has run on a platform, on a pledge, to increase funding to the CBC.
00:20:36.360 He is literally bribing them with our money.
00:20:39.200 His campaign platform is higher salaries to the CBC, bigger budget to the CBC,
00:20:43.900 more taxpayer dollars going to the state broadcaster, which is dying.
00:20:48.760 Fewer and fewer Canadians are choosing to tune in to the CBC,
00:20:52.200 and therefore the CBC is more reliant on more taxpayer dollars.
00:20:56.500 Look, at this point, it is abundantly clear.
00:20:59.400 The CBC is the media arm of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:21:03.820 They are there to do nothing more than push the Liberal platform,
00:21:07.360 push the Liberal worldview, and promote their man, Justin Trudeau.
00:21:11.160 Their television personalities pretend to be journalists, but they're not.
00:21:14.860 They're liberal activists doing everything they can to get Trudeau re-elected.
00:21:19.060 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.