Candice Malan explains how the CBC treated Conservative Party of Canada Leader Aaron O'Toole and Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau at a town hall-style debate hosted by the Liberal party. She also explains why the CBC should have asked more conservative questions.
00:00:00.000It's Justin Trudeau's turn for a town hall over at CBC, proving once and for all that CBC is the media arm of the Liberal Party of Canada.
00:00:08.460I'm Candice Malcolm and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:15.440Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in.
00:00:17.600So on yesterday's show, we covered Conservative Party of Canada leader Erin O'Toole, who joined CBC for a town hall discussion.
00:00:24.660The event was built as an opportunity to speak to undecided voters and learn more about the issues that matter to Canadians.
00:00:32.060The only problem is that that's not what happened at all.
00:00:35.460Instead, CBC trotted out four young voters, each of whom outed themselves either as Liberal voters or far-left activists.
00:00:43.980The themes of the questions were all based on the issues that matter to Liberal voters.
00:00:48.020We know that because True North did a scientific poll that showed that Liberal voters care about climate change and they care about COVID-19.
00:00:56.420Whereas Conservative voters don't really care about those issues at all, Conservative voters care about government spending, government debt, jobs and the economy.
00:01:05.160So CBC put O'Toole in the hot seat opposite Liberal partisan activist Rosemary Barton, the one who pretends to be a journalist but really is a big fan of Justin Trudeau and the Liberal Party.
00:01:14.860And she twisted every single question to match the Liberal spin, the Liberal talking points and the Liberal lies that get pushed out through this election.
00:01:24.060Now on top of that, Rosemary Barton was indignant.
00:01:40.080And her anti-Conservative bias was shining through all night long.
00:01:43.400Well, that's because the CBC just isn't very good at hiding their bias.
00:01:47.640So last night, to provide the perfect contrast to that event with Aaron O'Toole, we had Liberal leader Dustin Trudeau join the exact same program in the exact same format just to show us how differently the CBC treats Conservatives versus how they treat their own Liberals.
00:02:03.380So remember, on Sunday night, Conservative leader Aaron O'Toole was asked more or less four left-wing questions that at least the line of attack was from the left.
00:02:11.300So he was asked about giving government daycare to middle and upper-income families.
00:02:16.200He was asked about the trans community and how he would protect trans people's feelings.
00:02:21.000I don't really understand how that's federal jurisdiction, but that was the question.
00:02:24.300He was asked about climate change and how he's going to deal with the fact that many in his caucus don't share the same views about wanting to have a carbon tax as he does.
00:02:32.880And he was asked about his housing plan by an immigrant to Canada who talked about how Canada was a racist country.
00:02:40.620And he also happened to tout Justin Trudeau's strategy in Afghanistan, even though by most accounts, by most people who are experts on what's happening in Afghanistan, Trudeau has made a tremendous series of blunders.
00:02:52.920But regardless, we had an individual who said that he liked Trudeau's plan and he wanted Aaron O'Toole to continue that.
00:02:59.360So all of the questions, even if they weren't left-wing questions, they were framed or asked in a left-wing way.
00:03:04.620And host Rosemary Barden made it all so much worse by pressuring Aaron O'Toole and doubling down on all the liberal partisan attacks we've seen throughout this election campaign.
00:03:13.240So she asked him about guns, about systemic racism in Canada, she talked about climate alarmism, and she really misrepresented and did a dishonest job of promoting the liberals' conversion therapy bill and taking the conservative position on that out of context.
00:03:28.720So this time around, if the CBC were fair and balanced, if they were a legitimate news organization that treats all political parties the same, they would have asked Justin Trudeau for conservative questions, including shutting down Parliament to avoid the We Charity investigation, various ethics violations that Justin Trudeau has been found guilty of, the whole idea that Justin Trudeau pretends to be a feminist, whereas behind closed doors, he treats women very, very poorly and has a very bad track record of that.
00:03:56.460We would talk a lot about the out-of-control government debt and spending, the increased cost of living because of his printing of money and hyperinflation, dividing the country by attacking and dehumanizing the populist rallies, and his party's despicable, despicable record when it comes to sexual misconduct and the resulting cover-ups.
00:04:15.920But instead, of course, none of that really happened.
00:04:17.880Some of those issues were sort of vaguely touched upon, but there's no way that Rosemary Barton pressed and pressured Trudeau the same way that she did when it came to O'Toole.
00:04:27.160So instead, Justin Trudeau got loving softball questions that confirm his exact worldview and reflect the things that he's been trying to say throughout the whole campaign, really reflect his message of the campaign.
00:04:38.560So right on that topic, first we heard from one questioner who basically condemned Canada as a horrible and racist country and talked about this one incident that she was apparently the victim of a hate crime, or at least a racist person in a grocery store.
00:04:51.240And we saw Justin Trudeau sweep in to basically apologize for Canada, say that Canada is this terrible, awful country, and we like to pretend it isn't, but really it is.
00:05:00.460And then he makes an insane remark that is patently untrue.
00:05:04.240He says that there are millions of hate crimes that happen in Canada, which is absolutely ridiculous, not even close to being true.
00:05:11.420But it allows Trudeau to continue with his line of attack that, you know, his favorite topic is condemning Canadians as racist, especially if you're a conservative voter, you're just beyond the pale.
00:05:21.160And allowed Trudeau to shift and go to his new favorite topic, which is demonizing the populist protesters, pretending that they are entirely at fault for COVID and the fourth wave.
00:05:33.620This magical thinking that if just everyone in the country got vaccinated, COVID would go away.
00:05:38.820I know lots of people who have been vaccinated for COVID and have still gotten COVID.
00:05:43.780So just because you're vaccinated doesn't make this go away.
00:05:46.160It's really magical thinking that he has, regardless, this is what Trudeau loves to do, and he really loves to dehumanize those who have valid concerns about forced vaccinations and vaccine passports.
00:05:57.920So here is what that question and that exchange looked like.
00:06:02.240My name is Pooja Begri, and I'm from Toronto, Ontario.
00:06:05.320I recently just completed my PhD from McMaster University, specializing in immunology, and I currently work in the health research sector.
00:06:13.400You know, I've always been proud to be Canadian, and I truly do embrace Canadian values.
00:06:18.840But like you just heard, recently when I was at the grocery store, a complete stranger came up to me and told me to go back to my country.
00:06:26.780And then I continued to face a tirade of racist remarks while everyone remained silent and no one stepped in to help.
00:06:33.100You know, born and raised in Toronto, Canada is my country.
00:06:37.080And so this was a very jarring experience for me.
00:06:39.660And then we continued to hear about horrific hate-motivated crimes occurring across the country, like the incident in London, Ontario, that tragically took the lives of almost an entire family.
00:06:52.500And so it's very perplexing to me to understand, you know, regular Canadians like me going about our daily lives can't even go out on a walk or go to the grocery store without fearing for our safety.
00:07:03.420So what I want to know is, what do you, as a leader, plan to do to ensure that Canadians from all walks of life, all walks of life, feel safe and protected?
00:07:13.360And just seeing some of the things that have been happening during your campaign stops, you know, it just really worries me.
00:07:20.140And it makes me wonder that if someone like you could face such a barrage of anger, then what about regular folks like me?
00:08:49.440I am 29 years old, and I live just north of Bowmanville, Ontario, with my parents, Neil and Suzanne,
00:08:56.080and my fox red Labrador retriever, Finn.
00:08:59.400For the past two and a half years, I have been working at a big box retail operation near my parents' home.
00:09:05.660Should you be re-elected, what would you do to address the growing income and equity in this country and improve the lives of low-income workers,
00:09:15.620many of which, such as myself, were asked to continue working through the pandemic despite an increased risk to their safety?
00:09:22.560We saw that people who were already vulnerable, either economically or for other reasons, were made more vulnerable by the pandemic,
00:09:29.780and that's certainly the situation you were in.
00:09:32.200So whether it's better access to education if you want to go back to school, better supports for artists,
00:09:38.420or better support for you and your partner to be able to buy their home with a real housing strategy
00:09:44.120that's going to put more money into your pocket and support in the creation of supply,
00:09:48.860there's lots of things that we need to do, and we want to be there to support you on it.
00:09:52.840Okay, next question. This one was actually really good. Credit where credit is due.
00:09:56.460This young man had an excellent line of questioning. He asked about fiscal restraint, about shutting down the economy over COVID.
00:10:02.660He talked about rising inflation, and he really had a great line of questioning.
00:10:07.680But rather than answering those important questions, Trudeau just pivoted towards COVID, blaming the unvaccinated again,
00:10:14.140talking more about how he wants to give more government handouts, including money to help people buy a home,
00:10:57.080Hi, my name is Ahmed Hassan. I'm a renewable energy contractor and entrepreneur living in Edmonton, Alberta.
00:11:03.700I'm a diehard Raptors fan and technology enthusiast. In my free time, I enjoy reading, watching documentaries, and spending time with my family.
00:11:11.500I am an undecided voter of this election because none of the party's platforms fully resonate with me.
00:11:17.720This election, the issues on my mind are the economy post-COVID-19, personal health freedoms, and the rising division within Canada.
00:11:25.380My question is, being from Alberta, we've been through some pretty rough economic times, and COVID-19 and extended lockdowns only amplify this.
00:11:36.800My question to you, Prime Minister, is the cost of goods and services has increased while our purchasing power has decreased.
00:11:42.780What are you going to do to get the economy back on track, and where are you going to draw the line between economic stimuli and fiasco restraint?
00:11:52.260But according to Stat Canada, inflation is 3.7% right now. Canadian life is getting more expensive by the day.
00:12:00.780What are you going to do to curb inflation rates and reassure Canadians about the economy?
00:12:06.480First thing is getting done with COVID. We have to get through that.
00:12:10.440But then, as we rebuild, we have to learn the lessons we learned during COVID, which is women got hit harder by this COVID recession.
00:12:19.240Minorities, young people, got hit harder by this COVID recession.
00:12:23.480So we have to respond to those things and understand the intensity of the crisis of COVID, similar to the intensity of the crisis on climate.
00:12:32.740And finally, probably the most ridiculous question of all, the fourth question, they brought out a First Nations person who is actually from one of the reserves who claimed to have found unmarked graves on their property in the summer.
00:12:45.800One of the big sort of bombshell reports that we heard about with these reserves claiming to have found unmarked graves, this specific one in Kawasis and First Nations, there was a lot of issues with this.
00:12:55.860First of all, one of the band members came out after the announcement and said that the graves that were discovered, first of all, they were in an existing cemetery.
00:13:04.240It wasn't like they just found graves that were at a former residential school.
00:13:14.300So we heard stories, like I said, from that band leader who said that the graves belonged to both First Nations and non-First Nations, both children and adults.
00:13:23.580So this was one of those issues where the media totally took that story out of context, made it seem like the worst of the worst, like confirmed the worst of the worst about Canada's history and our past.
00:13:33.280And we're really dishonest about the story in its entirety.
00:13:38.720You can go check out some of my reports.
00:13:40.180There's one called Six Things the Media Got Wrong about the Unmarked Grave Stories.
00:13:45.600Go check that out if you haven't already, because I really go through all of this in detail.
00:13:49.860Regardless, they brought out a woman from that reserve to talk about reconciliation.
00:13:54.500This is one of those issues that Canadians don't really care about.
00:13:56.980The media really hyped this up, drum this up like it was going to be a huge election issue.
00:14:01.120When we polled Canadians here at True North, the people who thought that reconciliation was the number one issue of the campaign was really, really low.
00:14:08.740For both liberal, conservative, undecided voters, nobody told us that this was an issue that was top of mind.
00:14:14.320So it's really interesting to see the media focus so much on this issue as if it's the most important issue in the country.
00:14:20.040That's just not what Canadians told us in our polls.
00:14:22.840Regardless, because the CBC knows nothing about Western Canada, they kind of billed this as a question about both the West and about reconciliation.
00:14:31.700So it allowed Trudeau to talk more about his sort of empty plans to help First Nations people.
00:14:37.160Look, he's been prime minister for six years.
00:14:38.860If he was really committed to ending the water boil advisories, he would have done it already.
00:14:44.580Trudeau doesn't care about this issue either, but it gives him the opportunity to flout his big ideas and make him look like he's going to solve everything.
00:14:53.960And again, because the CBC doesn't know anything about Western Canada, they think that this is the same issue.
00:14:58.320So it's the West and reconciliation as if those two issues had anything in common.
00:15:02.780But when they did finally start talking about the West, what did they talk about?
00:15:07.140How Justin Trudeau wants to shut down the resource economy.
00:15:10.600He wants to, again, spend money that we don't have, basically pay the provinces, shut down natural resources and what?
00:15:17.300Like take the money and learn to code instead?
00:15:19.340I mean, it's such a ridiculous pie in the sky idea that we would just shut down the major tenants of our economy without anything to replace them.
00:15:26.600But again, it just shows how out of touch the CBC is with Western Canada and how clueless Justin Trudeau is and how weak he is when it comes to the economy and real issues in the West.
00:15:36.820Western alienation, feelings that, you know, that all the decisions in Canada get made in Ottawa or Quebec and that everything in Western Canada is kind of an afterthought.
00:15:46.760This show, the way that this question was buried at the bottom really did confirm that Western Canada is an afterthought to these elites in Ottawa.
00:15:55.020So here is what that line of questioning looked like.
00:15:57.380Hi there, my name is Dodie Ferguson and I'm an undecided voter.
00:16:01.400I come from a farming and ranching family from the Cows' First Nation here in Treaty 4 territory.
00:16:05.840I am also very passionate about helping Canadians understand this concept of reconciliation to help them along their journey and hopefully help them write relations with us as Indigenous people so we can have a mutually respectful and beneficial relationship.
00:16:18.460What can you tell me that would encourage me to vote for you as I have in the past, I waffle between a couple of parties, what can you tell me that would encourage me to vote Liberal this time around, taking into consideration the future for my children and my grandchildren as Indigenous workers in Canada?
00:16:34.840So those are really great actions of reconciliation that the government has enacted in this country.
00:16:40.400I'm looking more towards how do we do reconciliation in terms of economics, in terms of labour, in terms of relations that we as Indigenous people who are workers and contribute in this economy, how do we tie reconciliation along with the economy and labour and employment?
00:16:57.300You know, Dodie, you mentioned you're from Cowessess or your roots are in Cowessess.
00:17:02.860When I was there, we got to sign a deal with Cadmus DeLorme, the chief there, to make sure that kids who are at risk in the community get kept in the community, in their language, in their culture, not taken out to non-Indigenous foster homes.
00:17:18.080Because that knowing identity and strength in grounding in your community is part of being able to succeed and contribute in the future.
00:17:28.360So those are concrete things we've done together that all comes into making sure there are full opportunities for your kids and grandkids.
00:17:35.100And finally, after each question, Rosemary Barton was allowed to herself jump in and have a follow-up line of questions.
00:17:41.200We saw with Erin O'Toole that she really insulted him, she misrepresented his position, and she pushed liberal talking points.
00:17:48.040So to be fair, True North wants to show you what it looked like.
00:17:51.480Because Rosemary Barton really did push Justin Trudeau back a little bit, but it was so gentle in comparison to the way that she treated Erin O'Toole.
00:17:59.280So we want to compare apples to apples.
00:18:00.800Here is a little montage of the hardest moments that Rosemary Barton pushed against Conservative leader Erin O'Toole on Sunday night
00:18:07.480versus the hardest moments that she pushed against Liberal leader Justin Trudeau on Monday night.