The Candice Malcolm Show - September 21, 2021


The Conservative strategy failed. There needs to be a reckoning.


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13 minutes

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2,694

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169

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Summary

Candace Malan explains why the Tories are the big losers in the election, and why Justin Trudeau is to blame. She's joined by Andrew Scheer, Danielle Smith, and J.J. McCullough to discuss their reactions to the results of the election.


Transcript

00:00:00.160 Everyone lost in last night's election, but the biggest losers of all were the conservatives.
00:00:04.080 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:10.820 Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in today.
00:00:13.180 I hope you enjoyed our coverage and our show that we did last night.
00:00:16.880 We had a live election show.
00:00:18.200 We were live for about five hours up until around one o'clock in the morning,
00:00:22.020 and we had a great time.
00:00:23.020 It was a great show.
00:00:23.440 It was hosted by myself, True North senior correspondent Andrew Lawton,
00:00:26.820 as well as True North in-house pollster Hamish Marshall.
00:00:30.240 We were there for the entire night.
00:00:32.580 We had our sort of raw reaction to the news as it came in.
00:00:35.500 We were calling the seats.
00:00:36.680 We talked about every part of the country, every writing,
00:00:39.700 really looked in depth at the Trudeau campaign, at the Erin O'Toole campaign,
00:00:44.240 and sort of broke it all down.
00:00:46.220 We had Sue Ann Levy in Oshawa and our own Harrison Faulkner out in Saskatoon.
00:00:50.440 We also were joined by some wonderful, spectacular guests.
00:00:53.020 So we had Andrew Scheer, former leader of the Conservative Party from the 2019 election.
00:00:57.960 We're joined by Danielle Smith, former leader of the Wild Rose Party out in Alberta,
00:01:02.620 and someone who's still very much involved in the political scene.
00:01:05.780 Out there, we had J.J. McCullough, the popular YouTuber and columnist with the Washington Post,
00:01:11.620 come and join us.
00:01:12.400 We had a lot of fun.
00:01:13.480 It was a great broadcast and just really enjoyed it.
00:01:16.060 We had a new format that we're trying out using,
00:01:19.080 so I could actually see all of the comments as we're coming in on social media,
00:01:22.460 on Facebook and YouTube.
00:01:24.380 So it was just, it was really fun.
00:01:26.140 It was great to connect with our audience that way.
00:01:28.860 And we really appreciate everyone who tuned in.
00:01:31.000 If you want to go check that out, you can find it over on YouTube or on Facebook.
00:01:35.500 But like I said in the intro, look,
00:01:37.800 I think that the obvious loser in last night's election was Justin Trudeau.
00:01:41.640 Justin Trudeau made an absolute mockery and fool of himself.
00:01:45.180 The entire purpose of this election was one reason and one reason alone,
00:01:49.740 and that was so that Justin Trudeau could try to get a bigger share of the pie.
00:01:53.780 He wanted a bigger share of the pie.
00:01:55.200 He wanted his majority government.
00:01:56.540 He wanted unmitigated power to do exactly what he wants to do.
00:02:00.520 He didn't want to have to bother with the hassle of working with the NDP and the Bloc,
00:02:04.740 even though the NDP and the Bloc were incredibly supportive of his left-wing agenda.
00:02:09.720 So Trudeau didn't have a very good reason to call the election in the first place,
00:02:13.220 other than the fact that he wanted more power.
00:02:15.260 He lost.
00:02:15.960 He did not get that power.
00:02:17.320 He didn't get the outcome that he wanted, which was the majority government.
00:02:21.200 If he were an honorable person, if he had any decency, he would resign.
00:02:25.160 He would look in the mirror.
00:02:26.160 He would look at his party.
00:02:27.340 He would look at Canadians and say,
00:02:29.060 I forced this unnecessary $600 million election.
00:02:32.260 I created all this division in the country.
00:02:34.860 I pushed on these wedge issues.
00:02:36.500 I bribed the media with more money, more taxpayer money.
00:02:40.900 I demonized people who protest against lockdowns and vaccines.
00:02:45.860 I divided the country.
00:02:48.280 Trudeau is to blame.
00:02:49.920 Trudeau is terrible.
00:02:51.240 And again, if he had any sense of decency, he would resign and he would not be prime minister.
00:02:55.780 But of course, that's not true.
00:02:57.320 Of course, Justin Trudeau doesn't have any decency.
00:02:59.300 He doesn't have any honor.
00:03:00.340 And therefore, he twisted it and spun it in his victory speech last night,
00:03:05.420 saying that he was given a mandate, saying that it's clear, saying that he won,
00:03:10.000 and basically acting as though he had just won a majority government, even though he hadn't.
00:03:14.600 It was absolutely despicable.
00:03:16.260 Justin Trudeau is a big, big loser of the night.
00:03:19.720 And Canadians are worse off this morning because of it.
00:03:22.700 But as I said in my intro, I think that the Conservatives are the big losers.
00:03:26.740 The Conservatives are the big losers.
00:03:28.480 And I will spend this show explaining why.
00:03:31.500 Look, when it comes to Aaron O'Toole, I'll just be completely frank.
00:03:34.680 He comes from the opposite side of the Conservative movement and party than me.
00:03:39.340 I like to see a Conservative who is strong in their principles, strong on their values,
00:03:42.880 unapologetic, willing to defend Conservatives and willing to live their values
00:03:46.740 and have a distinct difference between the Liberals and the Conservatives.
00:03:51.980 That's just the kind of Conservative that I am.
00:03:54.480 I think that typically in the party, those people, people like me, are described as true blue,
00:03:59.400 people who really believe in Conservatism, really believe in things like a smaller government,
00:04:04.820 a traditional role for families, strong families, and a strong economy.
00:04:09.500 And those things come first.
00:04:10.580 And when it comes to the culture wars, yes, they're willing to defend, defend Canada,
00:04:14.680 defend the West, defend our pipelines and our energy industry, and defend Canada.
00:04:19.040 Not be apologetic, not pretend to be something that you're not, not buy into the sort of woke
00:04:24.220 media landscape and the narrative that is pushed that you have to repeat these woke lines that
00:04:30.380 are being shoved down our throat by a radical fringe left.
00:04:33.520 I believe that a Conservative should stand up against those things, that they should be strong
00:04:37.380 and firm.
00:04:38.480 So look, Aaron O'Toole is not exactly my cup of tea, but here at True North, I try to give
00:04:43.240 him the benefit of the doubt and to cover him with an open mind.
00:04:46.900 So I wasn't overly critical of him during the campaign, even though there were a lot
00:04:50.540 of things that he did that I severely disagreed with.
00:04:53.580 And that's because, look, he has a different, he comes from a different side of the movement
00:04:57.920 than me, and he had a different strategy.
00:04:59.840 The whole idea was that he was going to run as a moderate, run as a centrist, sort of try
00:05:06.000 to court people in the middle.
00:05:07.660 So he basically ditched the entire social conservative wing of the party.
00:05:11.880 He wasn't really willing to take on any of the cultural war, cultural battles that are
00:05:17.220 happening in our country right now.
00:05:18.400 He pretty much stayed silent on all of them.
00:05:20.620 At one point, he did say that he would raise the flag to full staff.
00:05:24.140 That should be obvious that that's, yes, that's good.
00:05:27.020 And it was good to see him do that.
00:05:28.520 I would have liked to see a lot more of that from him.
00:05:32.540 But regardless, he cut the social conservatives out of the party.
00:05:36.860 He didn't let someone like Pierre Lemieux even run in the first place.
00:05:40.180 When it came to the vaccine passports, the same kind of thing.
00:05:43.560 A conservative should stand strongly against that kind of huge overreach and growth in
00:05:48.860 government.
00:05:49.240 The government should not be given that kind of responsibility over our lives.
00:05:52.540 We shouldn't entrust the government to oversee something like that.
00:05:56.300 A conservative needs to stand against that kind of thing.
00:05:59.000 O'Toole didn't.
00:05:59.700 OK, fine.
00:06:00.260 It was his strategy.
00:06:01.100 His strategy was that he was going to sort of mirror Trudeau on that wedge issue so he didn't
00:06:05.540 lose the campaign over.
00:06:07.140 Fair enough.
00:06:07.540 When it came to the sort of, again, more libertarian issues, he didn't make any effort
00:06:11.780 whatsoever to appeal to the anti-lockdown crowd.
00:06:15.720 He sort of just let those people go to Maxime Bernier, let Maxime Bernier really own that
00:06:20.720 issue.
00:06:21.620 And by the end of the campaign, we had sort of conservatives angrily saying a vote for
00:06:25.700 Maxime Bernier is a vote for Justin Trudeau as if that was going to make the difference and
00:06:29.920 as if they owned those votes, that it was mandatory that if you're a libertarian, you must vote for
00:06:34.600 the conservative party, even though the conservatives weren't offering anything to try to appeal to
00:06:39.660 libertarians, appeal to even conservative sensibilities on limited government and putting
00:06:44.260 freedom first.
00:06:45.320 So, again, disappointing to see those two things happen.
00:06:49.220 But the reason I was willing to entertain it is the idea that perhaps Aaron O'Toole had tapped
00:06:53.940 into this strategy, that he was going to run as a red Tory, he was going to run as a centrist, he was going to
00:06:58.680 appeal to all of these people in the middle who vote liberal, but maybe they were disaffected with
00:07:03.820 Justin Trudeau and they had nowhere else to go because all of the other parties are fringe and
00:07:08.420 far left.
00:07:09.160 So that was a strategy, kept an open mind, and I think that the results last night speak for
00:07:14.780 themselves.
00:07:15.500 Aaron O'Toole's strategy did not work.
00:07:18.240 It did not work.
00:07:19.360 He did not make any inroads in Toronto.
00:07:21.240 In fact, he lost several seats in the 905 that the conservatives had won under Andrew Scheer.
00:07:26.760 So Andrew Scheer, open, socially conservative, Catholic guy, family guy, didn't apologize for his
00:07:31.480 conservative values.
00:07:32.560 Andrew Scheer stood strongly against UN overreach.
00:07:35.400 He maintained his conservative principles, and yes, I wish there were some areas where he was even more
00:07:40.120 strong and would push back even more, like the Paris Declaration.
00:07:43.560 But regardless, in comparison, Andrew Scheer seems like a much, much more conservative
00:07:48.480 candidate than Aaron O'Toole.
00:07:50.940 So the idea that Aaron O'Toole didn't even gain seats in Toronto, he didn't even win the 905,
00:07:56.760 the suburban belt around Toronto, that it seemed like his entire campaign was geared toward.
00:08:01.540 But not just that, the conservatives got decimated in the lower mainland, in British Columbia.
00:08:06.120 They basically, from our analysis and what Hamish Marshall was saying last night, they lost the
00:08:10.880 Chinese vote.
00:08:11.480 The ethnic inroads that had been made under Harper are continuing to fade away.
00:08:16.680 So you're losing the vote of new Canadians.
00:08:19.260 And so at this point, you have to stop and say, wait a minute, what was it all for?
00:08:23.660 Aaron O'Toole ran a campaign where he basically threw the conservatives in his party under the
00:08:28.160 bus.
00:08:28.680 He shunned social conservatives.
00:08:30.180 He shunned freedom-loving libertarians.
00:08:32.460 He ran as a centrist.
00:08:33.640 He ran basically as a liberal-like candidate.
00:08:37.320 And he didn't even make the inroads that he needed.
00:08:40.220 It seemed like his entire campaign was geared towards appeasing the media and trying to appeal
00:08:45.360 to people who, let me be frank, are never going to vote for conservatives.
00:08:48.840 You're never going to win over these people, no matter how much you try to act like Justin
00:08:52.680 Trudeau.
00:08:53.120 You cannot out-Trudeau Justin Trudeau.
00:08:56.000 And this is an incredible failure of judgment and failure of strategy.
00:09:00.540 And I think there needs to be a reckoning with Aaron O'Toole as the leader of the Conservative
00:09:04.900 Party within the Conservative movement, because his strategy didn't pan out.
00:09:08.600 It didn't work.
00:09:09.420 He didn't win.
00:09:10.280 Instead, he alienated the entire Conservative base, including people who trusted him that he
00:09:16.280 was going to run.
00:09:17.100 Remember, he ran as a true blue.
00:09:18.520 He said that throughout his leadership campaign, that the options for leadership of the party
00:09:23.740 were Peter McKay, who was a known red Tory, and Aaron O'Toole.
00:09:27.120 And the idea of why so many people threw their support behind Aaron O'Toole was because they
00:09:31.900 believed that he was the more Conservative option.
00:09:34.800 It turned out that that wasn't the case.
00:09:36.600 And this became evident throughout the campaign.
00:09:38.800 I want to read a post that Aaron O'Toole put on his Facebook in the final days of the
00:09:43.860 campaign, because I think it's just incredibly telling of the kind of strategy that
00:09:48.500 he had, the kind of campaign he led, and the kind of man that he is.
00:09:51.260 So let me read this right here.
00:09:52.660 I want to talk to the many Canadians who are tuning into this election, and maybe, hopefully,
00:09:57.800 looking at the Conservatives for the first time.
00:10:00.060 I know some of you are hesitant because of things you may have heard or impressions that
00:10:04.120 are a little out of date.
00:10:05.480 I know that you may not hear all that much from Conservative politicians.
00:10:08.780 I understand that for years you've been let down by the Liberals.
00:10:11.540 Okay, so far, so good.
00:10:13.260 I guess he's trying to talk to people who don't typically vote for Conservatives.
00:10:17.220 So let's see what he has to say here.
00:10:19.280 He says,
00:10:19.840 So basically what he's saying here is he's apologizing for the Conservatives in his party.
00:10:48.420 He's apologizing for the Conservative positions his party has taken in the past, and he wants
00:10:52.880 you to know that under his watch, the Conservatives are different.
00:10:56.400 Okay, so let's continue reading.
00:10:59.180 From the first day of my leadership, my priority has been to build a Conservative movement where
00:11:04.820 every Canadian feels at home, inclusive, diverse, forward-looking, socially progressive, and
00:11:12.600 worker-friendly.
00:11:13.760 As you look ahead to voting this election, I ask for your support.
00:11:18.720 Okay, so we have all the left-wing buzzwords that he's included there.
00:11:22.000 He wants you to know that the Conservative Party is now diverse and focused on diversity
00:11:27.680 and inclusion, which we know is sort of left-wing academic buzzword.
00:11:31.340 Look, the Conservative Party has always been diverse.
00:11:33.580 Ever since I first went to a Conservative Party event, which was probably about 15 years ago
00:11:39.260 in Vancouver, the first thing you notice about the room is that it's diverse.
00:11:43.740 There's people of all backgrounds, all walks of life, all ethnicities.
00:11:47.340 We were talking about this last night, that the whole idea that Conservatives are innately
00:11:53.000 homophobic or anti-gay is just obviously untrue.
00:11:56.660 If you work in Conservative politics or you're around Conservative politics, you recognize
00:12:01.620 very quickly that there are a lot of people who are gay in the Conservative movement, a lot
00:12:05.800 of people who identify as LGBTQ, a lot of people from different walks of life, again.
00:12:11.540 So the idea that Conservatives oppose that has always been nonsense, always been a media lie.
00:12:16.780 But again, here, Aaron O'Toole is repeating it and basically cementing those negative left-wing
00:12:22.360 media stereotypes about Conservatives, admitting that they're true and promising and pledging
00:12:27.180 to be better.
00:12:28.900 So here he says he wants to be forward-looking, socially progressive and left-wing.
00:12:33.560 So again, he's applying that he wants to be forward-looking, which implies that the
00:12:38.240 former Conservative Party was, what, backwards-looking?
00:12:40.860 He wants to be socially progressive, which means socially left-wing.
00:12:43.780 It means woke.
00:12:44.500 So why is Aaron O'Toole pledging to be woke in the final week of the campaign?
00:12:49.020 If you're a Conservative in this party who has long-voted Conservative, who has been loyal
00:12:53.160 to the party, and you see something like that, you read something like that, that was the
00:12:56.780 focus of his campaign in the final week.
00:12:58.760 He was giving speeches to that end.
00:13:01.280 That was what he was talking about, apologizing for the Conservative Party, saying that the past,
00:13:05.920 they were wrong, and he wants to move it in a more left-wing direction.
00:13:09.400 Well, I've got news for you, Aaron O'Toole.
00:13:11.200 When you talk like that, when you campaign like that, when you say those kind of things,
00:13:15.180 when you run on a campaign trying to please the media, trying to please the left, and to
00:13:19.020 get those people to win over, what you're really doing is you're throwing your own base under
00:13:23.180 the bus.
00:13:23.640 You're making Conservatives who have long supported and voted for your party feel like
00:13:27.660 you don't want them, and that you're ashamed of them, and that you are basically apologizing
00:13:31.780 for them.
00:13:32.460 So look, Aaron O'Toole didn't do what he said he was going to do.
00:13:35.740 He didn't make the inroads that he was hoping to.
00:13:38.000 He didn't make the progress that he wanted.
00:13:40.160 Instead, he alienated his base.
00:13:42.360 He didn't pick up seats and make the ground by picking up those moderate or those liberal
00:13:46.380 voters, and instead, he let the entire Conservative movement down.
00:13:50.720 There needs to be a reckoning.
00:13:51.900 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.