The Candice Malcolm Show - The DARK SIDE of the Alberta separatist movement + White refugees？

00:00:00.000 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. So one of the topics that we have been discussing in depth since the federal election is the issue of Western separatism, Western independence.

00:00:12.880 And I will say that we have been covering it more from a perspective that we find it interesting here at The Candace Malcolm Show. We're interested in the idea, not that we promote it, not that we like the idea of splitting up Canada, but we are interested in the movement.

00:00:22.940 And we have been highlighting some of the other voices that have been leading this movement, people like Keith Wilson, the constitutional lawyer who helped us break down the changes to the Citizens Initiative Act announced by Premier Daniel Smith.

00:00:34.680 We've also had Premier Daniel Smith on the program, not talking about this specifically, but we also recently had Preston Manning on the show earlier this week.

00:00:41.800 That episode really blew up. A lot of people are really interested in Preston's vision for the future of this country.

00:00:47.240 Well, we also want to sometimes show the other side of the story. And that is why I invited Wyatt Claypool on the show today.

00:00:54.480 Wyatt is a political commentator and founder of the National Telegraph. And I don't know your perspective on it per se, Wyatt, but I know that you have some concerns and some skepticism as an Albertan, as a Calgary native yourself.

00:01:06.880 So I wanted to have you on today to sort of just explore the other side, the dark side of this movement and why we should perhaps have some more caution towards it.

00:01:15.060 So I'll hand it over to you and you can explain your position.

00:01:18.380 Well, thank you for having me on to talk about this. And hopefully I'm not going to disappoint people by sounding like, you know, nervously pessimistic, because in a certain sense, my personal perspective doesn't matter.

00:01:28.660 If anything, I would say I'm the most agnostic person on Western separatism as someone living in the West, as you could possibly get.

00:01:34.600 I really just care about the numbers. If you're going to try and do something and you want it to succeed, you should want there to be the proper, you know, the proper soil, the infrastructure there in order to actually be able to get the victory across the finish line.

00:01:50.100 And when I look at Western separatism, I'm going to first, at least let's talk about my province of Alberta.

00:01:57.320 I'm going to look at the results for getting rid of daylight savings time.

00:02:03.080 The daylight savings time referendum in Alberta failed.

00:02:07.000 And now we're going to try and go for Western separatism in sort of a glory shot of only maybe a year's worth of organizing because Mark Carney got reelected as prime minister.

00:02:18.580 And I hate Mark Carney. I don't like the liberals.

00:02:21.280 And you could say that in theory, it's good for Alberta to separate. 1.00

00:02:25.800 It's good for Saskatchewan to separate from Canada. 0.93

00:02:27.880 They get horribly mistreated.

00:02:29.440 I know all that stuff.

00:02:30.840 And the thing is, whenever we start getting into like whenever you start to say it's not really feasible to actually succeed in this referendum, at least this time, people say, well, don't you know how bad things are?

00:02:42.200 Like, OK, it doesn't matter.

00:02:44.340 I understand all that stuff.

00:02:46.080 But whenever I look at the polling, whenever I look at just the realities on the ground of the kind of mountains, you're going to have to ascend in order to win the victory.

00:02:56.200 I just don't see a real path forward.

00:02:58.300 I know some people in the separatist movement.

00:03:00.260 I appreciate them.

00:03:01.120 Even many of them are very good at politics.

00:03:04.200 But you need to have like a thousand people around the province organizing who are fantastic at politics to get something like this across.

00:03:13.460 And I don't even think at this point they maybe would even win in the rural areas at this point.

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00:03:48.000 Well, it's interesting that you say that because it reminded me of the 2021 referendum that Alberta asked when it came to equalization payments.

00:03:55.260 Now, in my mind, this should have been an absolute slam dunk.

00:03:58.380 Asking Albertans whether they want to continue to subsidize the rest of the provinces, often ones that deliberately don't develop their own natural resources and are morally opposed to it.

00:04:09.160 They're more than happy to take the checks from Alberta.

00:04:11.640 This should have been an 80-20 slam dunk issue.

00:04:13.940 And I remember feeling, like, quite surprised when it came back.

00:04:16.740 And so, again, April – or sorry, this was on October 18th, 2021.

00:04:21.020 The question was, should Section 36 of the Constitution Act, Parliament, and the Government Canada's commitment to the principle of making equalization payment be removed from the Constitution, right?

00:04:30.520 And so, just knowing all that background that Alberta just pays way more – I don't know the exact numbers, but they pay billions and billions more than they get back in services every year.

00:04:38.460 And that went 61 percent for the yes side and only 38 percent no.

00:04:43.680 So, 38 percent of Albertans said, no, no, no, we want to continue this deal that we get.

00:04:47.500 To me, that showed that it had become like a partisan issue, right?

00:04:50.440 That it was really 61, 62 percent of people saying they are in agreement with the Conservative government and then 40 percent, almost 40 percent, saying that they are opposed to it, which makes me think these referendums are so politicized in Alberta that the question isn't really the question.

00:05:05.400 I think that was also part of the point that you wanted to make, that when you break down who would support a vote for secession, it really goes down to partisan lines.

00:05:16.680 So, this is an Angus Reid poll that came out last week, referendum reality, half in Alberta and Saskatchewan call for vote on independence, fewer to actually leave.

00:05:26.080 And when you look at the breakdown, this is what is super interesting, is that UCP supporters, the United Conservative Party, are kind of split, not quite split, because you still have 33 percent saying that they would definitely vote to leave and then 32 percent leaning leave.

00:05:42.280 So, that's that 60 percent I was talking about.

00:05:43.740 But then when you look at NDP voters, a full 93 percent say definitely would stay, right?

00:05:50.960 And so, somehow in Alberta, it has become like a left-right issue.

00:05:55.000 And what you would end up running into, in my opinion, is that this is going to be a really great practice of unity for the NDP in Alberta and Saskatchewan, because the numbers are pretty much the exact same in Saskatchewan, between the Saskatchewan party and the Saskatchewan NDP.

00:06:08.700 It's going to be very unifying for the left, and it's going to be very divisive for the right.

00:06:13.420 And not divisive for the right, like, but if we try hard enough, we'll be able to win.

00:06:17.420 You can't win.

00:06:18.440 You're not going to win the suburbs.

00:06:19.760 That's the problem.

00:06:20.700 Too many people who live in Alberta were not born in Alberta.

00:06:24.060 They came from the east.

00:06:25.280 They came from British Columbia.

00:06:26.360 And they happen to like Canada.

00:06:27.920 And the issue was never the issue when you, when you have these referendums, like you're like correctly pointing out about the referendum on equalization.

00:06:36.140 It started becoming about, do you like Canada or do you like Alberta?

00:06:40.780 Even though that's a very easy slam dunk issue that we shouldn't be subsidizing the entire provinces, like social welfare systems and like healthcare and whatnot, if they can't figure out their own public finances to like for decades at a time.

00:06:54.940 The thing is, like right now, we're going to be going in with a question where it is explicitly, do you want independent Alberta or do you want Canada, which is pretty, it's going to be a fairly permanent or at least a semi-permanent decision.

00:07:09.600 You're going to have a lot of retirees, a lot of upper middle class, nervous people, a lot of immigrants. 1.00

00:07:16.500 We're just going to vote Canada because they're, frankly, they don't live out in rural areas where all the oil and gas work is being done and who have experienced the kind of like anti like farming kind of policies of the government to support the supply management, like like cartels out east.

00:07:36.440 It's, you're just not going to be able to do it.

00:07:39.300 And my fear again is that in the next provincial election, this is going to be the thing that they hang around Daniel Smith's neck in order to beat her, especially if separatist parties are in running in the race.

00:07:50.360 It's going to be very easy for the NDP to come up the middle in 23 with basically no other parties other than the NDP and the UCP seriously running.

00:07:58.000 It came down to like a thousand, two thousand votes in Calgary that separated us from an NDP government and a UCP government.

00:08:06.060 Same thing in Saskatchewan. I think it was only 500 votes in Saskatchewan.

00:08:09.620 And that was all just one or two seats in Saskatoon going one way or the other would have changed everything.

00:08:15.600 It's so interesting. And you're right. It's close. Like it's not a slam dunk issue.

00:08:19.680 I think that a lot of people in central Canada and Quebec and Ontario, they might not really know the details of like who would support a movement like this.

00:08:27.240 Like, is it just like the hard right flank? Is there appetite for this?

00:08:31.660 We had Kim Bextie on the show the other day and he was saying that the idea in central Canada is that it's a bunch of like hillbillies and rednecks that are supporting this.

00:08:38.600 Whereas from his perspective, it is like the most sophisticated of business people and investors that are the most serious about this.

00:08:45.940 One of the cautions that I've been hearing from people in Alberta is this Republican Party of Alberta is sort of run by maybe, I don't know, like an outsider, a fringe character named Cam Davies.

00:08:58.080 So I want to play this clip of Cam talking about how the momentum for an Alberta republic is growing in Calgary and Edmonton and urging Albertans to sign his petitions.

00:09:08.680 Play this clip.

00:09:09.080 Alberta cities are full of energy, innovative people, bold ideas, and a drive to succeed.

00:09:16.960 But our future is being shaped by leaders in Ottawa who don't live here and don't understand our culture.

00:09:24.960 We've been held back by policies that handcuff our economy, punish our industries, and dismiss our potential.

00:09:32.060 The Alberta Republican Party believes in independence because decisions about Alberta's future should be made here, not by the Laurentian elite.

00:09:41.160 That doesn't sound like an extreme message to me.

00:09:44.320 That sounds like perfectly common sense, but I don't know the ins and outs of all of these characters.

00:09:47.980 So Kian Bextie on X wrote this in response to that clip.

00:09:51.840 He wrote a public service announcement.

00:09:53.420 Cam Davis is an American.

00:09:54.460 He used to work for the B.C. liberals trying to stop John Rudd's conservative surge.

00:09:58.120 After Danielle Smith refused to hire him in her government, he began plotting, I fully believe, that he launched this joke of a party to help Naheed Menchie get elected.

00:10:06.440 And that, of course, is the NDP leader, Keith Wilson, a constitutional lawyer who was also on a show I mentioned last week.

00:10:11.600 He writes this.

00:10:12.480 He says, if you want Alberta independence to succeed, please give this political party a pass.

00:10:17.280 This party weakens our chances of achieving independence for our kids.

00:10:20.780 So what do you make of all this, Wyatt?

00:10:22.000 And I know Cam Davies, and I don't mind the guy.

00:10:24.380 The guy is actually a very good marketer.

00:10:26.740 At the very least, he's good at political communications, which is his sort of background.

00:10:31.520 Again, and I would generally agree with Keith Wilson.

00:10:34.220 And the only thing I would disagree with him is, as I really don't think that if you pass the Republican Party and you find a new vehicle, if that vehicle is going to succeed either.

00:10:43.200 What we always see with the separatist movement in Alberta is that it very quickly devolves into utopianism, where everyone starts trying to debate what version of independent Alberta they want well before they even have the support to even come close, even get more than 25 percent of the vote in a referendum.

00:11:03.620 And so everything splits up because people have disagreements on whether it should be the 51st date or whether we should be independent and if we should only leave if we also get Saskatchewan, too.

00:11:12.040 It's one of these things where I think that the idea oftentimes gets going when people are highly emotional.

00:11:19.880 And it seems like a great idea at the time, because right now it's probably a high watermark in Alberta for support for separatism.

00:11:26.220 And that's even with 58 percent of people being against it and only in like the mid 30s in favor of it with a lot of people who, of course, still just don't have an opinion or don't know.

00:11:35.340 Now, this is high watermark.

00:11:38.020 People are emotional in one year's time, especially if like, you know, sorry to point out to people, but if Mark Carney lowers taxes even a little bit, people be like, oh, you know, life's not as bad.

00:11:49.100 It's still not very good.

00:11:50.520 But people tend to have a high degree of an ability to kind of forget about issues, especially that take a lot of work to accomplish.

00:11:58.160 People tend to forget when things even get a little bit better.

00:12:01.520 I mean, I could play the opposite side of that coin, though, Wyatt.

00:12:04.540 Like what happens if we get plunged into a recession?

00:12:06.900 What happens if we can't sell our debt on a bond market and the loonies start spiraling?

00:12:11.340 I mean, things could go really the other way here.

00:12:14.340 I mean, Canada is in a dangerous spot.

00:12:16.420 You post a video where you say that liberals want separatism to spread, to divide Canadians, and that you think this is all good for Mark Carney.

00:12:25.000 But what happens if the economy crashes?

00:12:26.860 And maybe explain to folks why you think that Mark Carney wants the separatist movement to spread.

00:12:32.520 I think there is a low ceiling for how much support the separatist movement can get, even if, you know, bond markets crash and the dollar devalues heavily.

00:12:42.460 I think there's just a lot of people who is just a no-go for them.

00:12:45.220 Retirees in Calgary are the people who would absolutely destroy the referendum because you'd be having to win the rural areas like 90-10 to offset losing it massively in Edmonton and Calgary. 0.64

00:12:56.820 Again, we're having, in provincial elections, it's close between the UCP and the NDP, which is a far easier choice to make in favor of the UCP.

00:13:06.460 In the sense that it's a fiscally conservative party and we're going to be trying to, you know, like, stabilize the economy and lower tax and all this stuff.

00:13:14.100 And it's still difficult to get people to show up and vote for that against the trade unionist NDP.

00:13:19.840 Now the NDP, in the next election, this is why Carney and Naheed Nenshi and Carla Beck like this in Alberta, Saskatchewan, is because they get to run on, let's be pro-Canadian.

00:13:30.400 Let's keep Canada together. 0.93

00:13:31.360 They can ignore all their stupid socialist policies and they can make themselves the party of Canada and then Daniel Smith has to be the party enabling the separatist takeover of Alberta. 1.00

00:13:42.000 No, that's so true. 1.00

00:13:43.660 Interesting.

00:13:44.080 Okay, well, we're going to have to keep that topic in mind and keep watching it, have you back on.

00:13:48.940 There was a story I wanted to get to yesterday, but we didn't have time, so I'm going to go through it today, which is that this riding in Quebec, Terrebonne, in suburban Montreal, Elections Canada has called it, is going to the Liberals.

00:14:01.260 Despite all of the shenanigans that we have been walking the audience through.

00:14:03.980 So recall this, that on election night, this is according to CBC reporting, Terrebonne initially went to the Liberal MP by 35 votes.

00:14:11.180 But after the standard validation process, the result flipped to the incumbent Bloc Quebecois MP by 44 votes.

00:14:18.640 Yes, it swung by 79 votes somehow, somehow.

00:14:22.840 And then this triggered an automatic judicial recount when the recount, the judicial recount happened.

00:14:30.360 It went to the Liberals by one single solitary vote only to have a woman come forth from the Bloc saying, I voted for the Bloc, but Elections Canada didn't get my vote because Elections Canada made a mistake with the return envelope.

00:14:44.620 She had a copy of it in her hand.

00:14:46.700 Just an unbelievable chain of events that went on there.

00:14:49.980 Well, the National Post is reporting that the vote in Terrebonne riding is the final vote, despite the uncounted mail-in ballot, that would make it a tie according to Elections Canada.

00:15:00.960 And so Elections Canada said that they will be reviewing the special ballot system after this returned mail-in ballot.

00:15:06.540 But that as far as this election result, it is final.

00:15:11.800 It is final.

00:15:12.680 So too bad.

00:15:13.720 And the Liberal is going to get to be the MP.

00:15:16.260 What do you make of it, Wyatt?

00:15:17.440 In Elections Canada, I'm pretty sure they even acknowledge that they screwed up with the wrong address on the envelopes.

00:15:23.420 Like, so apparently that we're just going by the rule of, well, what's one vote between friends when the Liberals need to win?

00:15:29.640 Like, I think anyone, any reasonable person would look at this and say, hey, it's pretty hazy on who won here.

00:15:40.060 I don't think that we're going to be able to squint and really say decisively it's one way or the other.

00:15:44.560 They should probably be having a by-election.

00:15:46.580 And good thing it seems like Yves-Francois Blanchet's not going to take this lying down.

00:15:51.060 And I think he has a press conference schedule to address this issue because you shouldn't just accept this.

00:15:55.720 And with so many Liberals wondering why or attacking, you know, usually it's not even, it's not major figures, but it's usually people online who are saying the election's rigged and whatnot.

00:16:05.820 It's not. 0.93

00:16:06.780 But when you have stupidity like this happening in individual writings like Terrebonne and you have 800 special ballots being kept in a box and left uncounted in British Columbia, it's like, can you not, can you not understand why people might think that these mistakes are not just mistakes? 0.98

00:16:24.980 And it's like intentional. 0.98

00:16:26.500 I don't think it's intentional, but incompetence is quite a, you know, quite a strong drug.

00:16:31.940 Well, I think it's a little bit of both in this situation.

00:16:34.400 If you ask me, why do I want to move on?

00:16:36.320 Because there's a topic that I used to cover a lot, which is immigration and refugees.

00:16:40.540 And this story really popped out.

00:16:42.080 It's an American story, but I'm going to tie it back to Canada as well.

00:16:44.500 So earlier this week, we saw that the United States has fast-tracked a group of refugees that have arrived in the United States.

00:16:51.340 The Trump administration welcomed 59 white South Africans as refugees, saying they face discrimination and violence at home, which the country's government strongly denies.

00:17:01.640 And so it's kind of just become an interesting spectacle on social media, especially.

00:17:06.380 Here's the account and wokeness saying women and children, fathers who have stable jobs, not one single gang tattoo.

00:17:13.600 Everyone is waving an American flag.

00:17:15.600 The only refugees the left hates.

00:17:18.140 And it does seem, at least from social media and the response, that the left does hate this group of refugees.

00:17:24.100 Here is a left-wing account on X saying South African refugees, in scare quotes there, arriving in the U.S. looking like they haven't struggled a day in their life.

00:17:34.040 And so, again, the response has really been wild.

00:17:38.140 Here's another one from and wokeness saying TikTok influencers issues a direct threat to the 59 white refugees, saying that black people will be hunting them down.

00:17:47.900 I believe we have a part of this clip basically just saying that white people shouldn't be allowed to be refugees in the United States.

00:17:56.000 Let's play the clip.

00:17:56.740 This is for the South Africans who are going to be entering the United States.

00:18:01.460 This is just a public service announcement.

00:18:03.320 I just wanted to make you aware that the black people who were students during apartheid, we're grandmas and grandpas now.

00:18:14.560 And we have the air of Gen Z. 0.60

00:18:19.100 One more thing.

00:18:20.720 I also want to let you know that our president, he has secret service and you will not.

00:18:28.100 Yikes.

00:18:28.660 OK, so pretty strong words there.

00:18:30.480 I don't know.

00:18:30.860 I don't like any of this stuff, Wyatt.

00:18:32.720 I think that from my cursory knowledge of South Africa, I don't know the country very well.

00:18:36.900 I have visited.

00:18:37.620 I was actually a student down there.

00:18:38.920 And I've done the whole like I visited Robben Island and understand the history of apartheid.

00:18:43.520 However, it is pretty clear that things are not going very well for the white South Africans, that a lot of them are getting hunted down and killed, that their farms are being evaded and that there is targeted crime against them.

00:18:57.400 Recall the ANC, the Nationalist Party that's in power there, which was Nelson Mandela's party.

00:19:03.120 It's gone down a pretty dark path. 0.98

00:19:04.560 They sort of openly have these like chants, these anti-apartheid chants that include things like kill the boar and kill white. 0.99

00:19:11.820 We've heard it. 0.99

00:19:12.360 We've seen it.

00:19:13.940 Terrifying footage of like entire stadiums full of people chanting this kind of stuff.

00:19:19.200 I wouldn't feel safe there.

00:19:20.320 I don't begrudge people for wanting to have a better life.

00:19:23.780 That's the whole purpose of the refugee program is to allow people to come and have a better life in Canada or the United States.

00:19:30.780 And if they're patriotic and they love America and they're happy to be there, all the better.

00:19:34.940 What do you make of all this?

00:19:36.460 I do just want to clarify.

00:19:37.720 I don't think it's the ANC party who was engaging like the kill the boar chants.

00:19:42.420 But that was a left wing, almost ally of the ANC where they'll never condemn them and they kind of end up providing the anti-white kind of muscle within South Africa.

00:19:52.920 The people who push the policies that then justifies the ANC doing what they want because they'll take the more moderate middle road approach.

00:20:00.540 But it's just the slightly less insanely racist approach that the other party would want them to take.

00:20:07.400 Yes, you're right.

00:20:08.340 Thank you for making that clarification.

00:20:09.720 The ANC does defend this song, though.

00:20:12.100 Here is a report from routers saying, and South Africans ANCs defend the kill the boar song.

00:20:16.840 OK, sorry, go ahead.

00:20:18.140 Yeah, and so they're the enablers.

00:20:19.540 It's almost like that other party ends up being the black bloc Antifa to their kind of progressive downtown Portland Democrat elected officials.

00:20:28.020 It's kind of that relationship going on.

00:20:30.400 They're the official government.

00:20:31.720 And then there's this other crazy party that they'll kind of let go and do the dirty work of what they would like to do.

00:20:37.080 But they're too busy, you know, like they're wearing suits and ties so they can engage in that sort of thing.

00:20:40.960 And with that one lady in that TikTok video, too, who could guess why people are donating to Carmelo Anthony for stabbing that Metcalf boy to death?

00:20:54.060 There's so many people out there who thrive and live off of resentment.

00:20:58.700 And that is what is basically just fueling the opposition to these people moving to the United States.

00:21:05.160 Oh, they don't look like they're starving.

00:21:07.100 Well, I don't think you need to be starving for someone to want to kill you in a country.

00:21:10.800 And it's no longer safe.

00:21:12.080 And if you call the police, they're not going to show up in time.

00:21:14.280 And yes, they kill farmers in South Africa of both races.

00:21:18.540 But they say it's very clear when they kill a white farmer, just based on the crime evidence alone, it was probably racial in at least in some elements of it.

00:21:28.100 And so these people have a very good reason to leave.

00:21:30.720 But people just cannot stand that something bad could happen to somebody who's not in their politically favored identity group.

00:21:39.000 It's almost like, you know, racism is a bad thing.

00:21:42.300 But if you're on the woke left, you think it's actually perfectly fine because you see everything as just being oppressor and oppressed power games. 0.99

00:21:50.440 And so these people should maybe be killed. 0.95

00:21:53.320 These people maybe should get, you know, attacked in America because I guess they existed when apartheid existed. 0.99

00:22:00.760 These people only think in terms of group.

00:22:05.260 All they think is in terms of group because they are fundamentally racists.

00:22:09.000 It reminds me that Ryan Long, Ryan Long is a Canadian comedian.

00:22:12.780 He did this really funny skit, I don't know, maybe five years ago where he was talking about how like the woke and the racists kind of agree on everything.

00:22:19.900 And he had like it was like two guys and one was really woke and one was really racist.

00:22:23.800 And they actually agree.

00:22:24.660 And that kind of what it reminds me of, like white people can't be refugees. 0.97

00:22:27.460 They just can't. 0.97

00:22:28.380 Right.

00:22:28.560 And like that idea in and of itself is quite inherently racist.

00:22:32.700 Right.

00:22:32.800 They're saying that, you know, white people have power innately and therefore they can't be victimized, which what is that really saying about white people?

00:22:40.860 I mean, it's so disturbing.

00:22:43.080 Well, and it's not even it's not even woke versus racist.

00:22:46.320 It's woke versus woke.

00:22:47.240 It's the woke left and it's the woke right people who just invert where they think that the algorithm of who's right and wrong should kind of move in the direction of.

00:22:56.160 And I'm anti algorithmic thinking every single individual is an individual.

00:23:00.960 And you should always take things as a case by case basis.

00:23:03.360 Well, I said I wanted to tie it back to Canada because I think that there is a tie here in a couple of different ways.

00:23:09.360 So this is Juno News reporting and Noah Jarvis from True North has this incredible exclusive Fed support immigration ad blitz promoting anti-Canada pro-DEI view.

00:23:19.140 So these ads, I guess, showed up all over bus stops in Victoria.

00:23:23.160 And what do they do?

00:23:24.020 They highlight individual migrants to hear their stories, individual immigrants and refugees that live in Canada.

00:23:30.600 You can see by this board that they are funded by the government of Canada.

00:23:34.920 So there's a picture of a woman says, I'm more than the migrant you had in mind.

00:23:38.540 And then when you go to their individual stories, you have this like total like hatred of Canada.

00:23:43.700 So I'll just read this woman who is a she says she's a citizen of Jordan, originally from Palestine.

00:23:49.140 And it says, here I am, someone whose family has been displaced because of colonialism and imperialism.

00:23:54.880 Yet I am here on these territories where I wasn't invited.

00:23:58.680 I didn't go through the elders.

00:23:59.920 I didn't go through indigenous peoples.

00:24:02.220 I went through basically their colonizer system.

00:24:04.540 I found myself here as someone who's had similar background experiences where my grandparents were forced to leave during the Nakba in 1948.

00:24:12.620 The Nakba, for people who don't know, is they call it the catastrophe when the Jews got their own country.

00:24:16.940 They consider that a catastrophe.

00:24:18.660 And they call it ethnic cleansing, even though it was basically a partition where the Jews moved to one side and the Arabs moved to the other side.

00:24:25.500 And they always talk about the fact that the Arabs were moved and they never talk about the fact that the Jews were also moved.

00:24:29.340 Anyway, she writes that I felt an enormous sense of guilt.

00:24:33.040 So basically just saying that Canada is not a legitimate country, that we're just colonizers.

00:24:37.980 She went through the colonizer system and that really she should have gone through the elders to come to Canada. 0.89

00:24:43.280 So kind of discrediting the entire notion of Canada.

00:24:46.280 There's another one here, which is this other woman from Turkey who's part of the LGBT community. 0.98

00:24:52.220 So she's a gay refugee from Turkey. 0.96

00:24:54.440 Rather than being grateful and appreciative to be here in Canada, she just kind of like slams Canada for being not as open to LG people as she presumed that they might have been.

00:25:03.760 So this is this is what the government of Canada is.

00:25:06.120 They find people who hate our country and then they promote them to like shove it down our throats and say, like, these are the people that we should be welcoming and celebrating.

00:25:14.800 Yeah, I would honestly like these kind of people into our country who have like no sense of gratitude and don't want to be here and don't even recognize Canada as a legitimate country.

00:25:25.520 Like there's a door.

00:25:26.920 You can leave if you hate it that much here.

00:25:28.360 And you're so disillusioned by how horrible it is here.

00:25:31.820 Feel free to leave.

00:25:33.820 What do you think, Wyatt?

00:25:34.720 And this is why on top of wanting the immigration rate for permanent residents lower to 100,000 per year, I'd also on top of that want it so that we have values tests. 1.00

00:25:44.800 And if we detect that somebody doesn't actually like our country, is resentful towards our country, but is trying to move here, you can leave.

00:25:51.620 I don't want I don't want people who don't want to be team players moving to Canada.

00:25:55.720 If you're only moving to if you're don't if you don't want to be a Canadian, you can not be a Canadian.

00:26:01.620 And the thing is that we're going to give you your wish and you can go back home because apparently our country is so racist and horrible and everything here is just like, you know, homophobic, xenophobic, whatever. 0.54

00:26:12.260 Apparently, we're xenophobic at the same time.

00:26:13.980 We let so many people enter the country every single year without even just asking them to barely sign the guestbook.

00:26:20.940 100 percent.

00:26:21.420 One more story I want to highlight here, which is that this is another one from Juneau News.

00:26:24.520 Alex Zoltan from True North writes that B.C. has temporarily banned non-Indigenous people from visiting a provincial park.

00:26:31.420 So under the NDP, the government has banned non-Indigenous Canadians from accessing Joffrey Lakes Provincial Park.

00:26:38.620 It's off limits to visitors starting on April 26th.

00:26:42.020 So the First Nations can have a ceremony.

00:26:44.920 What do you make of this, Wyatt?

00:26:46.780 It's just the reconciliation industry run amok.

00:26:52.000 It's just basically every single thing that's going on in B.C. right now, when it comes to ban councils, when it comes to reserve land, when it comes to historical territory, it's all basically a slow march towards allowing ban councils to control all property.

00:27:10.300 This is basically a power move.

00:27:11.580 If it's silly, they're doing this because a whale washed up on the beach, and apparently this means that only Indigenous people can be on the beach now for some ceremony. 0.76

00:27:19.320 It's all about trying to slowly dig away at the property rights of other British Columbians.

00:27:26.320 And guess what?

00:27:27.000 It's not even good for Indigenous people, because Indigenous people in British Columbia don't have individual rights. 1.00

00:27:32.520 They have collective rights.

00:27:33.620 That's why on Haida Gwaii, there was multiple, a couple families had their houses bulldozed because they had an association with someone who was selling drugs.

00:27:42.400 They were just related to them.

00:27:43.960 And they don't have individual rights.

00:27:45.400 It's not their house.

00:27:46.300 It's the ban council's house. 1.00

00:27:48.060 So they can bulldoze the house, and the government doesn't show up to arrest anyone or do anything about it.

00:27:52.200 We have this going on everywhere, that ban councils and all these treaty rights, all these, like, basically these, this control they have over the land is deemed like a absolute special right that can never be violated.

00:28:06.500 And I think this whole, this whale beach story is just a microcosm of how ridiculous it's gotten.

00:28:11.720 You can't even be on the beach at the same time.

00:28:13.840 Well, if you can't be on the beach at the same time a dead whale's there, you're definitely never going to get a resource project through.

00:28:18.760 That's 100 percent true.

00:28:20.540 I mean, I just think you're getting into very dicey territory where you say that based on the color of your skin and based on your ethnicity, you can or cannot enter government land.

00:28:30.260 Like, I don't want any government agent policing what race someone is when they try to enter government building or crown land.

00:28:37.680 I mean, it's just, it's really heading down a dark and dangerous path under the guise of progressivism.

00:28:43.800 And, you know, you mentioned that example from Haida Gwaii.

00:28:46.480 We still call it Queen Charlotte Islands.

00:28:48.760 But, you know, it's just, it's just sort of scary, you know, collectivism run amok.

00:28:56.580 And the thing is that it actually crosses party lines in British Columbia.

00:29:00.440 You get the BC NDP, the BC Greens, who I call the farmers market communists.

00:29:04.960 And you also have the BC Conservatives who will all engage at different times in this kind of, like, performative, well, we need to, we need to respect land title and we need to respect the consultation process for getting projects through.

00:29:18.240 Right now we have debates where the BC Conservatives are trying to outwoke the NDP because the NDP aren't respecting consultations enough.

00:29:25.060 It's like, guys, just tell, just shut down the province at this point.

00:29:28.040 If we don't have the confidence in ourselves to do anything, then let's just, like, pack it in.

00:29:34.580 Just call it Turtle Island province and then leave.

00:29:36.900 Because this is obviously never, we're not going to get anything done here if we can't treat everyone as an individual and an adult who actually has to live in the real world.

00:29:45.640 We just, we let banned, banned councils basically live in a different world and that we must now respect the rules and regulations they make up on the spot.

00:29:54.860 It's so unbelievable, such a scary direction.

00:29:58.160 And I'm sad to see that the BC Conservatives are engaging in that kind of thing because the whole point of an opposition is to impose this kind of thing.

00:30:04.460 And I know a whole bunch of people in British Columbia don't like this stuff and they don't agree with it.

00:30:08.180 They should have their voices heard and represented too.

00:30:10.880 Wyatt Claypool, thanks so much for joining us.

00:30:12.400 We always appreciate your time and your insights.

00:30:15.060 Absolutely. Thanks for having me on.

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The Candice Malcolm Show - May 16, 2025

The DARK SIDE of the Alberta separatist movement + White refugees？

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