The Candice Malcolm Show - The INSIDE SCOOP on my day in Ottawa and interview with Pierre Poilievre

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode

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00:01:01.900 subscribe. And if you subscribe, you get exclusive access to the interview that I conducted with

00:01:08.720 Pierre Polyev. I'm going to tell you all about the behind the scenes behind that interview. I'm

00:01:13.460 going to share with you exclusive clips. And then at 7pm tonight, we are going to air the full interview

00:01:19.260 for subscribers over at JunoNews.com. So make sure you go check that out. I really want you to see

00:01:24.900 the interview. It was great. I got to sit down with Pierre, asked him a wide range of issues and

00:01:31.840 topics. We discussed so many things from immigration to crime. We talked about inflation. We talked about

00:01:38.060 Trudeau. We talked about the election. We talked about a lot of things. So you're really going to

00:01:41.840 want to check that out. So I want to tell you a little bit about the interview because it almost

00:01:45.820 didn't happen. I had been kind of talking behind the scenes with Pierre Polyev's team and the OLO,

00:01:51.820 the Opposition Leader's Office. And we decided to confirm the interview. We chose Wednesday. We

00:01:58.540 decided that that was when it was going to happen. And basically, we were about to fly out. And all

00:02:04.500 of a sudden, anyone who's in Ontario right now knows that we are facing severe winter weather right now.

00:02:10.160 It was a very cold day in Ottawa. And there was sort of like a pending blizzard that

00:02:15.700 was supposed to roll through and completely shut down the airports and everything. And so my husband

00:02:21.120 and I were flying out in the morning to get to Ottawa for the interview. Didn't even know if the

00:02:25.940 plane was going to take off, what was going to happen. Fortunately, we got there, landed, got into

00:02:30.900 a car, rushed downtown to the Conservative Party's headquarters. And I got to go in there, made it just

00:02:38.380 in time to sit down with Pierre. He's such a nice guy, very gracious, gave us lots of time. There were

00:02:43.700 no parameters or restrictions around the interview. I got to ask any questions that I wanted. It was a

00:02:47.880 lot of fun. I really enjoyed my conversation with him. He surprised me with some of his answers, but

00:02:52.480 really just solid stuff. And I really want you to be able to watch that full interview. So like I said,

00:02:58.020 7 p.m. tonight. You have to subscribe though. Go to Juno News and subscribe. I'll give you a little

00:03:03.420 teaser of what the interview looks like. So here is one of my favorite exchanges of the interview

00:03:08.120 when we were talking about illegal immigration and what Mr. Polyev would do to crack down on illegal

00:03:14.560 immigration. One of the other things that's happening in the states right now in the new

00:03:19.280 administration is that President Trump has been serious about deportations. And a couple weeks ago,

00:03:25.720 we had Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying that if he were the Canadians, he'd be concerned that a lot

00:03:30.380 of the bad people that are in the United States right now might try to sneak up into Canada. This

00:03:34.760 happened last time Trump was president, Mr. Trump was president, where we had people crossing illegally

00:03:39.940 through Roxham Road, thousands and thousands and thousands. And it was disgraceful. I went there

00:03:44.960 myself, Pierre, and I couldn't believe it. You had CBSA officers acting like bellhops, lifting their

00:03:49.740 suitcases, putting them into buses, taking them to Toronto or Montreal, their choice. They got to choose

00:03:54.240 where they would go. So we were sort of facilitating illegal entry into our country. I believe Roxham Road 0.98

00:04:00.680 has been closed. But I'm sure that happens in other places. I'm wondering, what would you do to stop

00:04:05.640 bad people that are about to be deported from the United States from just walking across into Canada?

00:04:11.380 Well, they closed Roxham Road 30 days after I issued an ultimatum to Justin Trudeau that he had to close

00:04:17.740 it or that we would move a non-confidence. And so he actually met my ultimatum and closed it,

00:04:23.820 which proved that what they had been saying before was all a lie. They claimed they had no way of closing

00:04:27.740 it. Well, of course they had a way of closing. They didn't want to. We have, we're a nation with borders

00:04:33.520 and we have the ability to seal our borders against illegal crossers and to block people from coming 0.96

00:04:39.400 in. And those that get onto our soil, what you need to do is just do a last in first out refugee review of 1.00

00:04:48.880 their claim. And this is how it works. If you're the last person into the country, then you immediately have your claim

00:04:55.640 heard, which means that within a couple of weeks, if your claim is false, you're sent back.

00:05:02.120 What that does is it sends the signal to everyone who might come in the future that they're going to be sent

00:05:11.320 home all automatically. The problem right now is that if someone gets in illegally, they then, and even if

00:05:16.180 they're not, they're not a real refugee, they're not fleeing danger, they have seven or eight years 1.00

00:05:21.660 of appeals, appeals, appeals, during which we're paying for hotels and lawyers and food and health care

00:05:27.600 above and beyond what Canadians get. Above and beyond what Canadians get. So that then attracts 0.92

00:05:32.640 more people to say, oh, hey, if I get to Canada, even though I'm not a real refugee, I can get into the

00:05:37.860 country and I'll be bounced around in the system at someone else's expense forever. If we solve that

00:05:42.980 problem, the message would go out very quickly that Canada is not a place you come to make a false or

00:05:48.720 fraudulent claim. And I believe you would see a very real reduction in the number of people who

00:05:54.680 even tried to come. I have a lot of sympathy for real refugees. My wife is a refugee. This has been 1.00

00:06:00.160 a wonderful refuge for people who genuinely have claims, and that still will be the case when I'm

00:06:04.360 Prime Minister. But we can't take in fraudulent, fake claimants and pay their bills for seven years

00:06:09.800 while they work the system.

00:06:11.220 So there it was. And again, we're going to release the entire interview tonight at 7 p.m. on our website,

00:06:16.240 junonews.com. Head on over there, subscribe so you can make sure that you get access and you can

00:06:21.360 watch that entire interview. Okay, folks, let's get to the news today because there is quite a bit

00:06:25.640 to get to today. I want to talk about the premiers. So the Canadian premiers all went down to Washington,

00:06:33.020 D.C. They're all trying to negotiate, trying to figure out what is happening with the tariffs,

00:06:37.960 trying to make some inroads with the Trump administration. Kind of a little too little too

00:06:42.300 late, guys. But at least they're finally there doing what Danielle Smith did from day one,

00:06:46.500 which is just have some face time, have some one-on-one time, get to know people, try to figure

00:06:50.940 out what is exactly going on behind these threats. How can we negotiate a better deal? How can we

00:06:56.140 secure a better life for everybody in North America? We all want the same stuff here. We all

00:07:01.240 want secure borders. We all want safe streets. We all want to get drugs off our streets. We don't want

00:07:06.220 criminals. We don't want terrorists. We don't want illegal immigrants. We all agree. And we all want a 1.00

00:07:10.900 strong economy. We want mutually beneficial things. So let's go down and talk about it. This is

00:07:16.640 something that came out of it that I just think is so embarrassing. Okay. So first you had Doug

00:07:20.820 Ford, Ontario premier. He's in the middle of the election. He's striking a good tone. A lot of people

00:07:24.840 I talk to around Ontario, they might not like Doug Ford that much. They might not like the conservative

00:07:28.760 government that much, but they like the way that he's approaching the situation, his tone and his

00:07:33.940 ideas. And so graciously, you know, he was asked, who in the White House did you meet with? Who were you

00:07:39.460 meeting with? And he politely said, you know, I'm not at liberty to say, but we had some productive

00:07:43.180 meetings. And I think that's the way to go. You don't go out and name people's names and expose

00:07:48.960 what the conversations were like when you're in the middle of a negotiation. So Doug Ford kind of

00:07:54.960 playing it smart. And then on the other hand, you have the BC premier, David Eby, who came right out

00:08:02.940 and just said everything. So here we have global news reporting that BC premier, David Eby says the

00:08:09.320 premiers had a frank conversation with Trump administration officials about the 51st state

00:08:13.880 comment and stressed it's a non-starter. Eby says that the two representatives that they met with,

00:08:19.220 and then he names them, deputy chief of staff, James Blair and director of presidential personnel,

00:08:24.760 Sergio Gore agreed to share a few items with Trump. One, the willingness to engage,

00:08:30.140 two, work on key areas of agreement, and three, that Canada would never be the 51st state.

00:08:36.760 Well, I think David Eby was speaking out of terms because James Blair himself, the person who he met

00:08:43.540 with, commented and replied to this on X. He said it was pleasant to meet with the premiers. To be clear,

00:08:51.320 we never agreed that Canada would not be the 51st state. We only agreed to share Premier Eby's

00:08:58.420 comments. Further, we said the best way to understand President Trump's position is to take

00:09:03.580 what he says at face value. Unbelievable, folks. Unbelievable. So because David Eby was out there

00:09:11.620 speaking out of turn, because he volunteered the information to the media that the 51st state

00:09:16.420 comment is off the table, well, that obviously annoyed the Trump administration. That obviously

00:09:21.200 annoyed Mr. Blair. So what did he do? He doubled down because this is what we're doing. We're in the

00:09:26.480 middle of a negotiation. You have the Canadians speaking out of turn, saying that they agreed to

00:09:30.760 something that the Americans said, no, no, no, that's one of our main negotiating sticks. This

00:09:35.640 is a stalking horse, folks. This is what the Americans are threatening Canada with so that they 0.90

00:09:40.980 can get a better trade deal. And by Canada saying, no, no, no, this is off the table. It's not going to

00:09:45.840 happen. It's just making the Americans double down. This is just bad negotiation tactics. Again,

00:09:50.880 everybody should go out and read the art of the deal, okay? Donald Trump has let us know

00:09:55.040 from, for years. He published this book like 30 years ago. We know how he negotiates a deal. We

00:10:00.920 know his strategy. This is just one of his tactics. And now that he's president, he's using it. And so

00:10:05.960 is his administration. So to have the BBC premier come out and do this, it was a gaffe. It was a faux pas.

00:10:11.780 It was embarrassing. It doesn't help the negotiation. Again, I think that premier Ford is taking the right

00:10:17.560 approach. Okay, well, we got some further clarity. We had another speech. So Justin Trudeau is

00:10:23.420 gallivanting around Europe. You know, guys, this is so frustrating. So frustrating, folks. We have a

00:10:29.780 crisis in Canada, right? We are facing impending doom with a tariff threat from the U.S. administration,

00:10:36.660 okay? And what is our prime minister doing? Gallivanting across Europe, going from city to

00:10:41.600 city, engaging in the kind of international development stuff that he prefers, frankly,

00:10:46.600 than rolling up his sleeves and doing the hard work. We don't have parliament. We don't have

00:10:49.860 government in session. And then here we have Prime Minister Justin Trudeau trying to stir the pot,

00:10:54.220 trying to gain favor for his Liberal Party, get more people. You know, the more people are afraid

00:10:59.340 of the Americans, the better that the Liberals are doing in the polls. So here's Trudeau speaking at

00:11:05.180 a press conference in Brussels, Belgium. Justin Trudeau told reporters, again, he said this in the past,

00:11:10.860 he says, there's not a snowball's hell in chance that Canada will ever be the 51st state.

00:11:14.660 And he added, at the same time, we have to take seriously what President Trump says. Let's play

00:11:20.420 that clip. There's not a snowball's chance in hell that Canada will ever be the 51st state.

00:11:27.560 At the same time, from having worked with President Trump for over eight years now,

00:11:35.520 I can tell you that we have to take seriously what he says and make sure we're responding

00:11:44.440 appropriately. So after initially not taking the comments by Trump very seriously, remember that

00:11:50.920 Trudeau sort of laughed it off at the beginning, which I think is actually the right approach. I

00:11:54.560 talked to Preston Manning and he agreed. He thinks that this was all initially meant as a joke to kind

00:12:00.940 of ruse Trudeau and tease Trudeau, and that it's really the Laurentians and the media that are

00:12:06.920 blowing things out of proportion, making it seem like it's a real threat that Canada is about to

00:12:10.940 get annexed any minute. Well, Stephen Harper, the former conservative prime minister, jumped in and

00:12:16.700 shared serious concern. So Stephen Harper was speaking on Tuesday in Ottawa at a launch party for

00:12:24.100 his book, Flags of Canada. And there he said that US President Donald Trump's annexation threats

00:12:30.000 should be met with unwavering determination to preserve this country's independence at any cost.

00:12:36.600 He said that Canada should accept any level of damage to fight back against Donald Trump. So it seems

00:12:43.260 like former Prime Minister Stephen Harper really takes this threat literally. And he does think that

00:12:49.960 Trump is trying to take over Canada, that it is a serious, literal threat, that we should be willing

00:12:56.420 to accept any level of damage. I don't agree with that, folks. I think that, again,

00:12:59.840 this is all part of the negotiation. And look at what Danielle Smith had to say in Washington,

00:13:06.440 D.C. She says that she thinks that they're making inroads and that things are going well.

00:13:10.260 So the people who are on the ground talking to American officials and Republican insiders in

00:13:15.240 Washington, someone like Danielle Smith, says, like, let's not lose our minds over this.

00:13:20.320 Let's keep calm and negotiate a deal. Here is what Danielle Smith had to say.

00:13:24.340 I think diplomacy is working. I think that the fact that we got a 30 day reprieve was because we

00:13:30.760 agreed to work on the cross border problem of fentanyl. I was pleased to see the federal

00:13:34.620 government announced a fentanyl czar. And my administration has already been in touch with

00:13:39.100 him to talk about how in Alberta, we can lend to the success of those efforts. So what I would say

00:13:44.960 is what I've seen from this president is that he is prepared to make a deal.

00:13:49.120 And in other news, Canada has finally appointed a fentanyl czar. So the Trudeau government on

00:13:54.920 Tuesday appointed Kevin Brousseau, his national security advisor, has now become Canada's first

00:14:02.160 fentanyl czar. Brousseau is a former senior officer in the RCMP rising up the ranks to become Manitoba's

00:14:07.780 deputy commissioner in 2016. He left policing in 2019 to become a senior public servant, serving as

00:14:14.720 the assistant deputy to Transport Canada and then associate deputy for the Department of Fisheries.

00:14:20.860 Speaking to reporters in Washington, D.C., Finance and Intergovernment Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc

00:14:26.400 said that he had spoken to Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, about Canada's new fentanyl

00:14:32.840 czar, adding that he feels confident that they very much have their attention. Here is this clip from

00:14:37.920 Washington. Howard Lutnick was there. The national economic advisor to President Trump was also

00:14:46.640 there. We started the conversation by discussing our shared priorities around border security and the

00:14:53.940 fight against fentanyl. We took stock of the good work that has been done around illegal migration.

00:15:00.620 We spoke about the appointment of our fentanyl czar who will be in Washington in a few days. I'm confident

00:15:07.560 that we very much have their attention. They made that clear to us that Canada is very much top of

00:15:15.740 mind for the work that Mr. Lutnick's doing. That was encouraging. Okay, moving on. So yesterday on

00:15:21.240 the show, I had Cosme Zherja, a senior reporter and journalist for True North, on the show. We spent

00:15:26.180 the entire episode talking about Mark Carney and how he has not really been vetted. We don't really know

00:15:30.880 much about him. And yet he's basically been selected to become Canada's next prime minister. He will

00:15:37.160 probably be the prime minister sometime in early March after the liberal leadership vote. Well,

00:15:43.460 I want to show this clip of Mark Carney that's making the rounds. He was in Kelowna, British Columbia.

00:15:49.400 And here's what he tells the crowd. He says that all of the federal powers of the federal government,

00:15:56.480 including the Emergencies Act, should be used against the Americans in this trade war. So first of all,

00:16:02.100 the liberals are playing this up as a crisis, as an existential threat to Canada, because it's

00:16:06.200 better for their electoral future if Canadians are afraid and worried and fearful and divided. This

00:16:11.840 is the liberal playbook. They've used it over and over again. And Mark Carney, again, just lets the

00:16:16.100 cat right out of the bag and says, hey, remember when we use those Emergencies Act illegally during 0.98

00:16:21.040 the COVID Freedom Convoy to crack down on peaceful protesters? Well, we're going to do that again. We

00:16:27.680 will use the emergency power once again. It's just one crisis, one emergency after the next for

00:16:33.180 these people. And again, Carney showing us a different side of him that you probably won't

00:16:38.520 see in the legacy media. Here is that clip. And something that my government is going to do

00:16:43.100 is to use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency powers

00:16:48.040 of the federal government to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy

00:16:54.000 and take on the Americans. Now, True North and Juno News may be some of the only outlets in the country

00:17:01.800 delivering the news, telling you the truth, telling you the facts about someone like Mark Carney,

00:17:07.040 who is, again, very unvetted. The media is not looking at him critically. They are not showing

00:17:11.400 Canadians the full picture. They're just giving him this sort of glossy, rosy honeymoon period. Like,

00:17:17.340 look at this fresh new face. He's a smart central banker who's going to come save Canada from

00:17:21.760 those mean, nasty Americans. Well, you deserve to see both sides. Canadians deserve to see both sides 0.83

00:17:27.340 because otherwise Canadians aren't going to know who this man really is. And again, I'm worried that

00:17:32.880 Canadians will make a colossal mistake in the next election if they don't learn more. And so, again,

00:17:38.080 we've seen this in the polls. I had Hamish Marshall, great pollster, on the show earlier this week to

00:17:42.860 talk about the fact that now that Trudeau is out of the picture and now that it looks like Mark Carney

00:17:47.060 will be the person running. The election is actually going to be a lot tighter than we

00:17:51.620 initially thought. It's not going to be a shoe-in for Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives. It's not

00:17:56.260 going to be a cakewalk and an easy majority. So the latest polls to come out, this was in the National

00:18:01.440 Post, a new lege poll suggests that a Mark Carney-led Liberal Party could boost Liberal support by six

00:18:08.460 points, up to 37 percent, tying the Tories, tying the Conservatives. Unbelievable. Unbelievable if Canadians let

00:18:16.460 the Liberals get away with what they've done to the country over the last nine years. I can't say this enough,

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00:19:00.900 on over to JunoNews.com and please subscribe. Okay, moving on. So this Saturday is Flag Day. Yes, we have a Flag

00:19:09.660 Day in Canada. It is the day where you're supposed to show your pride in the Canadian flag, honor the

00:19:14.560 anniversary of the new flag of Canada. Remember, we used to have the red ensign. It was redone to show

00:19:19.940 that we were more independent from the United Kingdom. We got the maple leaf. That has been our

00:19:23.840 flag for some 60 years now. And this weekend is the day that you're supposed to remember that,

00:19:29.020 fly the flag, show your patriotism. So it's interesting because we have seen a sort of resurgence

00:19:33.680 of patriotism in Canada, a love of country, particularly on the political left, on the liberal side of the

00:19:40.700 aisle. Recall that during the Freedom Convoy, during the depth of the COVID lockdowns, the Freedom Convoy

00:19:46.080 came out and one of the rallying points that they had was a Canadian flag. They were fighting for

00:19:50.940 their Canadian values that they felt had been taken away from the Trudeau government,

00:19:55.480 their Canadian freedoms that are enshrined in our charter. They were using the flag as a rallying

00:20:00.440 point to show, hey, look, we're all Canadian. We love this country and we want our country back.

00:20:04.500 While the left and the liberals hated that, they hated this idea that this sort of blue collar group

00:20:09.960 of rowdy Canadians were saying enough of the lockdowns and that they were using the flag to

00:20:14.740 the point where the left really separated themselves and denounced the flag. And they decided that the

00:20:19.980 Canadian flag was a symbol of hate. It was a symbol of far right, whatever they called us. It was total

00:20:25.940 nonsense and it was ridiculous. You know, we're talking about years and years of the left demonizing 0.99

00:20:31.940 Canadians, telling us that we're racist, telling us that our country is genocidal and that we were

00:20:36.240 built off of oppression. And really saying that they wanted nothing to do with Canada, I was happy

00:20:41.540 for the political right to take over the flag and have that be our symbol because we still love our

00:20:46.060 country. We still believe in our country. Well, now that we're in this trade war with the Americans

00:20:50.680 and war of words between the Trump administration, more Canadians on the political left and the liberals

00:20:56.280 are willing to use the flag and trying to take the flag back. Hey, I'll take it. I think that we should

00:21:01.060 all rally around the flag, unite around the flag. And so if you saw, I did an interview with Preston

00:21:06.740 Manning, the former leader of the Reform Party in Canada, and he had this message for Canadians. He

00:21:12.660 said that the best way to root out anti-Canadianism is to fly the flag. Here is what that looked like

00:21:19.080 when he told me on my show last week. This is anti-Canadianism. Try and root out the anti-Canadianism

00:21:25.060 from our institutions. And one simple practical suggestions I've had to friends is to fly the

00:21:32.880 flag. You know, when you go to the U.S. and go through the Midwestern towns or even in New

00:21:40.520 England, every eight or nine house has one of these American flags on it. Americans, for all their 0.87

00:21:49.400 faults that we continually point out, are basically proud of their own country. And one of the ways

00:21:55.020 they show it is to fly the flag. Well, why don't we fly the flag? Why don't we fly the flag?

00:21:59.540 And so, hey, I think that a lot of people may have seen our interview and agreed with us because

00:22:03.480 Pierre Paulyev a couple of days later posted this clip on X. Similarly, encouraging Canadians to go out

00:22:09.540 there, purchase a flag for Flag Day, celebrate the Maple Leaf, celebrate Canada. Here is what that looked like.

00:22:15.540 This Saturday is, in fact, Flag Day. So I'm encouraging everyone, regardless of your political

00:22:22.300 allegiance, to go out, get yourself a flag, big or small, put it on a flagpole in front of your home

00:22:28.440 or through your window or in any other way that you can show our colors. We're very proud of this

00:22:35.060 country. We'll never be the 51st state. We will always be a strong, self-reliant, sovereign country.

00:22:42.180 So let's show that message by raising the flag.

00:23:12.180 And just because some liberals and some left-wingers on social media are now trying to take the flag

00:23:25.380 back doesn't mean that the actual Liberal Party of Canada has because they haven't officially

00:23:29.620 celebrated or recognized Flag Day since 2020. Remember that Justin Trudeau lowered the flag to

00:23:36.640 half-staff after that fake news hoax of the unmarked grave story came out. He left the flag down at half

00:23:42.780 mass for months and months. It was a total disgrace. It was so disgraceful for our country to be humiliated

00:23:49.140 that way with a prime minister who was basically saying that we should have shame. We should feel

00:23:53.160 shame in our country. We shouldn't fly the flag. We shouldn't celebrate being Canadians. That is the 1.00

00:23:57.660 wrong approach. I hope the Liberals will reverse that and once again recognize something like Flag Day,

00:24:02.600 but I don't think it's going to happen this year, we have seen some Liberal boosters online, like I said,

00:24:08.000 have a little change in tune, change of tone when it came to the flag. So I'm going to point

00:24:12.180 one of my favorite examples of hypocritical Liberals out. So this is an individual named Mike Gibbs. He is 0.98

00:24:18.220 a big Liberal supporter on X and he wrote this back in 2022. Okay, so this was three years ago.

00:24:23.640 He says on this Canada Day, I can't help but think perhaps we need a new flag or a refreshed flag

00:24:31.420 because Canada and arguably our flag was tarnished long before the convoy with centuries of blood and

00:24:38.400 genocidal murder of Indigenous nations. We need a reset. We need a new symbol. So that was on July 1st, 0.97

00:24:44.740 2022. Well, the same user, Mike Gibbs, now on February 10th, 2025 had this to say,

00:24:50.780 nothing better than a brand new Canadian flag. We just got it from Canadian Tire. F Trump,

00:24:57.280 F mega. And then he also wrote, you'd think it was Canada Day. I've never seen this many flags up 0.87

00:25:03.360 in Ajax before. The resistance to Trump and Canada is growing. All right, pal, you can see his Twitter

00:25:10.940 bio there, Mike Gibbs with the rainbow flag and the Ukraine flag. Him, he, him pronouns. Thanks, bud.

00:25:18.520 Thanks, bud. So this guy is saying that there's a resurgence in the Canada flag after just three

00:25:23.640 years ago telling us that it was genocidal. Yeah, I think we're tired of that. I think we see

00:25:27.420 through you and your noise. So rich, so much irony in the fact that it's now liberals telling us to

00:25:33.620 wrap ourselves in the flag when for years they have been the ones demonizing the flag. Okay,

00:25:38.760 I want to show you earlier I sat down with Keembexy. Like I said, we were in Ottawa for the release of

00:25:44.820 the new announcement of Juno News. So excited to bring this to you. We filmed a promo video outside

00:25:50.380 and then we went back inside and recorded this interview. So part of what we want to offer

00:25:54.980 to subscribers of Juno News is sort of an inside behind the scenes look at journalism. What is it

00:26:00.720 like to be an independent journalist? What is it like to go around the country and tell these stories

00:26:05.060 to Canadians? It was great to have this sort of fireside chat with Keembe, who is my co-founder

00:26:09.840 at Juno News. We hope to bring you conversations like this. We're going to offer it to subscribers

00:26:15.340 every month. You're going to get a sit down with Keembe and I where we talk about what we're working

00:26:19.340 on, what we're doing, give you a little behind the scenes of what it's like to be an independent

00:26:22.760 journalist in Canada. So here is what that interview looked like.

00:26:28.780 Hi everyone, I'm very pleased to be joined with my co-founder Keembexy. We have come together to start

00:26:34.680 a new media company, as you probably know, called Juno News. And I'm very pleased. We were actually

00:26:39.300 just outside filming and it is freezing cold in Ottawa. So if our noses are a little red and our

00:26:44.380 toes are a little cold, it's because we were outside for like half an hour. It kind of brought back

00:26:48.060 memories of the Freedom Convoy, didn't it? Yeah, frigid cold. The cold that you only get in Ottawa

00:26:52.940 when you're outside trying to capture the moment and the weather just doesn't cooperate.

00:26:58.380 Well, we were talking about it because I lived in Edmonton for four years. I went to the University of Alberta

00:27:01.780 and I actually found that it was colder when I lived in Ottawa because in Edmonton, everyone knows

00:27:07.000 you're going to drive everywhere, right? So you're never really outside for too long. But Ottawa is

00:27:10.260 very much a walking city. So you end up outside a lot, walking from building to building. And it's

00:27:14.520 like a combination of the wind and just the wet cold. It's so cold. Yeah, it gets you down to your

00:27:19.020 bones. I can't stand it, coming from Calgary. But yeah, it's exciting about Juno. I really think that

00:27:24.940 this is going to change the media landscape in the country. Well, so why don't we, I mean, the point of

00:27:29.700 this conversation today is we want to do a bit more of a fireside chat. We're going to talk about

00:27:33.320 the news, but I also want to sort of unveil the curtains a little and let the audience know

00:27:37.800 a little bit like what it's like to be an independent journalist in Canada, like why we're

00:27:41.660 doing what we're doing. And one of the things I wanted to ask you, Kian, like we talked about it

00:27:46.660 a little bit when you came on my show before, but that footage of you with Justin Trudeau on the

00:27:50.580 beach in Tofino, like it's so incredible to me that you were able to do that and no legacy media

00:27:56.020 journalist was. You know, people that had so many more resources, you know, who, they know where

00:28:00.900 Justin Trudeau is. They know what he's doing, but they didn't bother to go and show up there.

00:28:06.660 You've had other opportunities where you've caught up with Trudeau at various places in the country.

00:28:09.880 I think I saw another video of you kind of chasing him out of a meeting somewhere on the East Coast.

00:28:14.640 Yeah, in New Brunswick.

00:28:15.420 So like, how do you do it? Like, how do you find him? How do you stake out? Like, tell us what goes

00:28:20.100 Well, a lot of it comes down to, I mean, our viewers at The Counter Signal, they're really

00:28:26.320 well-connected people. And we get tips every day. Oh, I saw the Prime Minister here. Oh, I saw Greta

00:28:31.940 Thunberg here. Oh, you know, all of these examples of citizen journalism that they're doing, that when

00:28:38.360 they send it to us, we're able to take action. Most people don't have the resources to fly across the

00:28:42.640 country and go find Trudeau when he's coming out of an oyster shop. You know, we do, though, luckily,

00:28:47.960 and we have the questions to pepper him with when he comes out. So it's a bit of a team

00:28:52.080 effort. It's a mutual relationship with our viewers who constantly, you know, they follow

00:28:57.180 his plane. They track it online and give us live updates of what's going on. And of course,

00:29:03.240 our team at The Counter Signal as well, I just couldn't do it without them as well. They are

00:29:07.960 constantly on the ball, finding new events, new locations where we're able to track them down

00:29:13.900 and ask questions. And it's not just Trudeau that we're interested in. It's every,

00:29:17.960 single politician in this country, whether they're conservative, whether they're united

00:29:23.000 conservative in Alberta, or whether they're a liberal in Ottawa. We want to hold the people

00:29:29.480 in power accountable because our viewers deserve nothing less.

00:29:33.220 I feel that way, too. So for me, I started in journalism as an opinion writer. I wrote in

00:29:37.540 the Toronto Sun, I wrote an opinion column. And it started out by me writing my opinion about the

00:29:42.420 immigration system. I was really opposed to what Justin Trudeau was doing in 2016 when he first

00:29:46.240 got elected. I thought that the Syrian refugee pledge was dangerous, just given the volatile 1.00

00:29:50.820 population over there and the research I was doing into how they were fast tracking it so people

00:29:56.460 weren't being vetted. They were just rushing people over. It was a total mess. And the more that I

00:30:00.700 wrote about immigration from like an opinion perspective, I started getting so many tips.

00:30:04.980 Like my inbox would just fill up with people inside the government, people who were working on

00:30:09.320 these very programs who kind of like I was onto something or MPs, people, I started getting so

00:30:14.280 many tips, even from immigrants themselves. Like I remember once I broke a story about how people

00:30:19.420 who were not citizens were being sent Elections Canada ballots. And it was literally sent to me

00:30:24.720 by someone who was not a citizen, who was like, hey, they're sending me this ballot. And like,

00:30:29.440 I'm not even supposed to vote in your country. So it is the amazing thing in journalism that like,

00:30:33.240 the more you do, the more it comes to you. It's definitely a positive feedback loop.

00:30:38.200 Yeah. And so much of it comes from the citizen journals. One of my favorite recent examples

00:30:43.660 was when we had the, you know, Elon Musk down there doing Doge in the U.S. and they were uncovering

00:30:50.760 all of the crazy, crazy programs that were happening at USAID or USAID. And then all of a sudden,

00:30:56.800 the sleuths went in and did the same thing to the Canadian equivalent. And, you know, there's a whole

00:31:01.940 thing about whether the website was down, whether they're trying to hide it, whatever happened

00:31:05.320 there. But regardless of that, it was like, all of a sudden, there were dozens, if not hundreds

00:31:09.340 of really amazing researchers finding the most ridiculous examples of these government programs

00:31:15.920 and putting them out there. So, you know, the media is stacked against sort of free-thinking,

00:31:23.280 free-speaking people in this country because the Trudeau government funds the legacy media,

00:31:27.400 like they pay for journalism. But I think that there's just such a groundswell of independent

00:31:32.700 voices, independent media. That's why I'm so excited to be in this space, like to launch

00:31:36.760 Juno News, to have this platform. I think it's like we're at the right place at the right time

00:31:40.640 because hopefully there'll be a change of government. I really hope Pierre Polyev follows through

00:31:45.320 and defunds the CBC like immediately, gets rid of all these other subsidies and programs to

00:31:50.600 journalists because there'll be a vacuum. Like I think, I imagine that a lot of those companies

00:31:54.280 will disappear and more Canadians will come to trusted independent voices. So that's why I'm

00:32:00.540 excited to be launching this. How do you feel? Well, what's terrible about the CBC, aside from

00:32:05.380 their just blatant partisanship, is that they're losing ad money, which is like the number one

00:32:11.040 indicator of a failing news site. Ads are how companies should be run, news companies should

00:32:16.680 be run. If you're not getting views on the site, then what's the point of the news company

00:32:23.940 existing in the first place? And the CBC is hemorrhaging ad revenue. They're supported by

00:32:27.980 our tax dollars, and we're supposed to hope that enough people are viewing it that they're sort of

00:32:32.720 able to sustain themselves, but that just hasn't been the case. It hasn't been the case with most

00:32:37.220 mainstream media legacy outlets, and that's why they rely on the journalism subsidy. On top of all

00:32:43.100 of the ad contracts that they have with the government of Canada and every other provincial government

00:32:47.820 in the country, which is, it's reasonable for governments to advertise on these platforms

00:32:52.040 because, you know, I was talking to someone about this yesterday. On the Counter Signal,

00:32:57.660 we have ads with the Alberta government, and the people that view our news, some of them are like

00:33:05.480 morally opposed to viewing anything in the mainstream media, and especially the CBC, but they still have

00:33:11.620 a right to view messaging that is important from the government, whether it's about budget plans or

00:33:18.280 important, like, announcements that they're making. And the federal government does the same thing

00:33:23.440 with legacy media outlets and even some, like, smaller media outlets. I don't think they pick and

00:33:28.580 choose favorites there, and I think that that's fine, but there's a difference between that and blatantly

00:33:33.440 subsidizing a media company because it's a media company.

00:33:37.420 Well, to the point about ads, it's one of those funny things. It's like, if the government wants to get

00:33:41.300 to your readers, that's the way to do it. And if you say no to those government ads, they're just

00:33:45.060 going to turn and try to find, they basically give the money to your competitors. So I don't really

00:33:49.680 have a problem with that. But the thing that drives me just absolutely crazy is, you know, the whole

00:33:54.540 premise behind the media bailouts is that the media companies said that there's no business case in

00:33:59.380 Canada, that you cannot make money and run a business and do journalism because Canadians aren't 0.99

00:34:04.140 willing to pay for it. Well, part of the reason they aren't willing to pay for it is because the CBC gives it

00:34:08.160 away for free, right? The CBC doesn't have a paywall. They don't require a subscription.

00:34:11.300 So they're doing all of this journalism, giving it away for free. And then they say to their

00:34:15.900 competitors, like, you know, you have to monetize by creating subscriptions and paywalls, but you're

00:34:20.780 competing on an uneven playing field because the CBC has them. But then even for the large newspapers

00:34:25.880 like the Toronto Stars and the Post Media, you know, they say that they need the government bailouts

00:34:31.400 just to exist and they wouldn't exist without it. But I think that the independent media has again

00:34:35.520 proven that the claim that they're making is false. It's not true. Canadians are willing to pay for

00:34:40.840 journalism. They're willing to pay for news. We're living proof of that, right? Like, look at the

00:34:44.680 businesses that we both built. Look at the Rebel. Like, there's so many Canadians that are willing

00:34:49.320 to pay for this. And we all have, like, successful thriving businesses because Canadians are so

00:34:54.140 passionate about paying for the news that they're willing to sometimes not even pay for the

00:34:57.580 subscription, but they want to donate and give us an extra $200 to make sure that, you know, we're

00:35:01.520 able to get the resources that we need. And so I think the entire premise of what they're saying,

00:35:08.060 what the newspapers and what the liberals and what the government says has just been completely

00:35:12.700 falsified by our very existence.

00:35:14.740 Yeah, it's a 100% false narrative.

00:35:17.260 Okay, I want to talk about Cosmin Georgia's scoop at True North. But first, I just remembered

00:35:20.780 one other question that I wanted to ask you while we're still kind of talking behind the scenes

00:35:23.980 of what it's like to be a journalist. There's a picture on your X page that's a picture of you,

00:35:28.860 Tucker Carlson, Daniel Smith, Conrad Black, and who's the other one?

00:35:34.460 Jordan Peterson. Jordan B. Peterson. And like, I can't imagine like four bigger, plus yourself,

00:35:39.900 five bigger stars in the world of like Canadian conservatives. So how did you get that picture?

00:35:44.300 Yeah, that's so funny. Tucker was in Calgary on a speaking tour. And I was luckily lucky enough to

00:35:51.340 be invited into this room that they were all in. And we just all sort of got together for a quick photo.

00:35:57.180 And I mean, it looks it looks amazing. It's like it was a dream come true. And Tucker is so funny,

00:36:01.900 too. He's such a friendly guy. So is Jordan, Dr. Peterson. He's a fantastic person to get to know

00:36:09.340 and chat with. You know, and Conrad Black as well. He's a legend in the industry. So being able to chat

00:36:15.740 with him as well was pretty neat.

00:36:17.020 Yeah, my only problem whenever I, you know, I'm lucky enough to be in the room with any of those people

00:36:22.300 is like, how do I even prioritize what I'm going to talk to him about? Like, if I see Jordan Peterson,

00:36:25.900 I'm like, I have like 10 things that I want to ask him about. And it's like, you know,

00:36:29.100 you have like 10 seconds to say something to him. So that's very cool. Okay, let's get to Cosman's

00:36:33.420 scoop because we were talking a little bit about foreign aid. So Cosman Georgia over at

00:36:37.100 True North Wire broke a story exclusive liberal donors, former candidate lead foreign aid organization

00:36:43.580 that has received $180 million since 2015. Isn't this the way that it always goes with liberals? Like,

00:36:50.940 not only are they funding absolutely ridiculous wasteful programs, but somehow they find a way 0.53

00:36:56.220 to make their friends rich in the process. How much money was it? $180 million since 2015.

00:37:02.060 And the company includes former liberal donors, former a CEO who once ran for liberal nomination

00:37:10.700 under Justin Trudeau. And so this sort of cozy, cozy relationship that exists, I think something

00:37:15.740 like 70% of this organization's budget comes from Global Affairs Canada. It's called CUSO International.

00:37:23.740 Great digging, great research over there at True North by Cosman Georgia.

00:37:26.860 Cosman's great. Every time I see a new scoop, it's coming from him. He's always on top of it.

00:37:32.300 He always has, he, I don't know how he does it. I wish I, I wish I could have like the, the, the research

00:37:38.700 skills of that guy because he, no matter where it is in the world, whether it's in Canada

00:37:42.460 or in Europe, if someone like mentions Justin Trudeau in like some foreign parliament,

00:37:48.220 he's like published on it within like five minutes of it happening. It's amazing.

00:37:51.900 Yeah. He's got an amazing research skills. One of the, I think probably the most read piece,

00:37:56.220 I don't know if it still is, but for a while, the most read piece we ever had on our website

00:38:00.300 was Cosman put together a map of Canada and he had geotagged all the locations where churches had been

00:38:06.540 burnt down in the aftermath of the unmarked graves hoax that happened. And this, this thing was like

00:38:12.700 referenced by like media companies all over the world. It was really amazing. The initiative that

00:38:17.020 he put together because we, we saw that it was happening. You know, all these churches are getting

00:38:20.300 burnt down and I don't think anyone had like put it all together in one location. So you could see

00:38:24.460 like, it's actually like, it's not just a few, it's not just a handful. We're talking about, I think it's

00:38:29.340 over a hundred churches. Yeah. So honestly, Cosman is as good as it gets. And again, a good win for

00:38:36.380 independent media that we have him on our side. This is why I know that this, this is going to

00:38:40.940 work out well, Juno, because the counter signals, you know, the biggest story that we ever published,

00:38:46.460 like it was, it was viewed so much, broke all the records on our site and around the world

00:38:53.660 was when we published that the 50th church had been burnt. Like once that happened, that, that was so

00:38:58.780 shocking to an American audience that it just, you know, it spread like wildfire to forgive the pun,

00:39:04.780 but it, it's tragic what has happened in this country. You know, if it, if it was any other

00:39:10.140 religion, this would have been treated almost akin to a genocide. What is going on with churches in

00:39:15.980 this country? And I feel like it is slowed down a little bit, but the legacy of that lie that there was

00:39:24.700 mass graves in the ground in Kamloops, they were, they were treating it like it was the Holocaust

00:39:30.380 that happened in this country, which is a, it's, it cheapens the Holocaust. And it's just a lie. 0.77

00:39:37.020 There, there were no mass graves, but, and, and the, the word is important. They're mass graves. They

00:39:41.980 were treating it like there was, there was piles of bodies of children buried, which of course, if that

00:39:46.700 did happen, that would be outrageous. That would be insane. And nobody, you know, if, if there was evidence

00:39:51.580 of that happening, we should try to uncover that evidence and expose that injustice,

00:39:56.380 that crime against humanity, that, that evidence just doesn't exist. And the mainstream media

00:40:01.020 willfully lied and misled the public about that in a way that has damaged the reputation of our country,

00:40:07.420 of the Catholic church, to, to another extent, and has warped the, it has warped the image of,

00:40:17.340 you know, an entire religion in this country and the history of our country among the eyes of the

00:40:22.220 world. Well, there's so many things I could say, but yeah, I mean, the, the use of the word mass

00:40:26.140 graves isn't intentional. Like when you think, when you hear that, you think of the Soviet Union or you

00:40:31.260 think of the killing fields of Cambodia or something like that. Like we're never talking about mass graves.

00:40:35.340 And the fact that they use that, I think you're right, that was deceptive. It was repetitive.

00:40:38.940 It was. And, and, and, and it was demoralizing. I think that that was the main thing. Like it's so

00:40:43.660 rich right now, Kian, to see Justin Trudeau and the liberals play this like team Canada, like with

00:40:48.940 the flag and take back the flag and everything. It's like, I'm sorry, you've spent the last nine

00:40:53.100 years and specifically since 2021, telling Canadians that they are racist, that they are, that their

00:40:58.940 country was built on genocide, that it is shameful to be Canadian, exaggerating things that happened in

00:41:04.780 our past, like no one's past is perfect. And I think that Canada made a lot of mistakes with that

00:41:08.460 program. I'm not in favor of residential schools at all. But the reality is they flamed a story,

00:41:14.540 flamed a hoax narrative that Canada had committed genocide, that I'm sorry, but priests and nuns

00:41:19.580 were out there murdering kids. Like it was never true. It was outrageous on the surface. And the

00:41:24.460 legacy media didn't challenge it. Instead, they just promoted it and propagated it. And it did take

00:41:29.100 the independent press. I know that there were some strong voices in the legacy media that came around

00:41:33.500 like Terry Glavin and he did great work on it. But that was like a year or two after the fact.

00:41:37.900 True North, we were telling these facts and reporting this in real time. And it was tough

00:41:42.700 because nobody wanted to hear it. And people were very upset that we would dare question the

00:41:47.900 narrative. And that's all we were doing at the time was just asking some simple questions like,

00:41:51.500 what do you mean ground penetrating radar? What does that mean? What does that entail? When is this

00:41:55.900 report going to be released? When can we see it? Like, what have you found? Just kind of basic questions.

00:42:00.620 And poking some holes in the narrative that we saw. And, you know, I think it's terrible what

00:42:06.220 Justin Trudeau did to the country, what the media did. Because, I mean, imagine like for any young

00:42:11.900 Canadian growing up, you know, you look at patriotism rates, the number of young Canadians

00:42:16.700 that say that they would move to the United States, it's like half. And it's like, well,

00:42:19.500 do you really blame them? They were raised at a time like telling, like, first of all,

00:42:23.580 there's not the same economic opportunities. But you also live in a country that tells them that there's

00:42:27.740 something wrong with them, that their country is wrong, that it was built off the back of something 0.53

00:42:31.580 horrendous. And it's the same thing for First Nations children. It's like, imagine being told

00:42:36.780 that narrative and trying to live in that country, being told that you're not, you're not ever really

00:42:41.020 going to have a fair shake. The country hates you, they try to commit genocide against you and your

00:42:45.020 people. Like, it's just such a horrible thing that they did. And that is one thing, I honestly think

00:42:49.340 that's one of the worst things that Justin Trudeau did to this country. A legacy of demoralizing and

00:42:54.380 destroying a generation, making it financially impossible to live, making it almost a crime to

00:43:04.300 love your country and support its history, despite the issues that it had. You know, you made a good

00:43:10.860 point. The residential school system was terrible. You know, I'm the last person that would ever support 1.00

00:43:17.020 the idea of a government coming into a family's home and taking kids. You know, that's nuts.

00:43:22.780 That didn't really happen, though. That's the thing. Like, that's why, you know,

00:43:26.540 True North published a book called Grave Error. Tom Flanagan, who's a renowned professor of political

00:43:30.860 science there, you know, he basically makes the point that the program was never compulsory.

00:43:35.660 This idea that they were coming in and swooping and taking kids is greatly exaggerated. And that the

00:43:40.700 numbers, like, it was a voluntary program. Most people actually wanted their kids to go,

00:43:44.540 because they wanted their children to have the opportunity to have a free education.

00:43:47.740 And they were top-notch education in many cases. So, I mean, so many of the things that we say and

00:43:54.780 hear about the residential school program are not true.

00:43:57.500 I think broadly speaking, I would say that it wasn't a good thing for the country. Just, you know,

00:44:03.580 I don't like the government intervening in most cases.

00:44:06.700 Yeah, like, I'm glad that the education is under the provincial jurisdiction. I wouldn't want a federal

00:44:11.100 department of education.

00:44:12.460 Yeah, yeah, it would be a disaster nine times out of 10. But yeah, you know, that is Trudeau's legacy,

00:44:18.460 is the legacy of demoralizing a generation, making it financially impossible to

00:44:22.700 live and work in the country. You know, it's become almost a status symbol to have a home now.

00:44:29.020 That wasn't the case 10, 15 years ago. Once you turned 25, you were sort of on your way to,

00:44:36.220 you know, and you had a job and you started a family, you were on your way, you'd have a home.

00:44:42.700 And on top of that, you know, having kids at this point has become a status symbol.

00:44:46.060 It's impossible to afford children in Justin Trudeau's Canada. And I think that's by design.

00:44:50.860 Justin Trudeau doesn't really care if, if you're struggling to afford groceries,

00:44:55.740 you're not fighting back against the government. That's, that's it, plain and simple.

00:44:59.580 Well, I hope that, you know, having kids, I think having kids is one of the most important

00:45:04.140 things that people can do. Like, like, it's really sad to me to see the plummeting birth rates,

00:45:08.060 something that we don't talk about nearly enough. It's, it's really a alarming trend among young

00:45:12.780 Canadians. There's not having kids. Millennials aren't having kids. Gen Z aren't having kids. 0.93

00:45:16.140 I think the replacement rate is supposed to be 2.1. I think right now we're at like 1.3,

00:45:20.300 which is just like terrifyingly low. And I think you're right. When people are demoralized,

00:45:24.620 when they feel like they can't afford things, they're not going to take that next step in life.

00:45:29.660 I wanted to quickly just, before we wrap it up, you know, the premiers are down in Washington, D.C.

00:45:34.700 right now we, you know, we're hearing lots of different things come out of that event. But one

00:45:40.780 of the things that frustrates me is when you have like the federal minister of international trade

00:45:46.860 saying supply management is off the table. Like we're not willing to budge on this basically

00:45:52.300 internal protectionist program that we have, that if you were American, you'd say that's a legitimate

00:45:57.740 concern. So we're saying we're not willing to even talk about supply management of dairy. We would

00:46:03.020 rather have 25% tariffs across the board on everything than worry about upsetting this

00:46:08.140 one special interest group. You made the point that, you know, they were willing to sacrifice

00:46:12.780 Alberta oil, right? But they're not willing to sacrifice this arcane, outdated communist program

00:46:18.940 that protects a couple of hundred dairy farmers.

00:46:20.780 That's literally the sacred cow of this country. The oil lobby could learn a few things from the

00:46:26.060 dairy lobby. The dairy lobby is great at what they do because they have positioned themselves as like,

00:46:31.260 these like supporters of small family farms. Like, like, if we didn't have this communist control

00:46:38.060 over our milk and butter system, then family farms would cease to exist. It's like, no, that's not true.

00:46:44.060 You know, if we let American dairy into the into this country, our farmers, you know, supposedly are great.

00:46:50.300 You know, I think they are. I think that we have great, great farmers in this country and they will be

00:46:55.260 able to manage their own supply. They'll be able to manage a high quality product. They'll be able to

00:47:01.820 grow and compete. And who doesn't want American dairy products and more choice in their supermarkets? 0.69

00:47:09.420 Who wouldn't want European cheese in their supermarkets? But for some reason, we are not allowed to allow

00:47:16.300 that free market into our country. For what? To protect this massive lobby that has a ton of money

00:47:22.620 to influence politicians. You know, that's how I started my career was actually exposing the dairy

00:47:27.660 lobby for their manipulative tactics that they used on the Conservative Party and Andrew Scheer,

00:47:32.540 when the Conservative Party was considering getting rid of supply management. And, you know, they,

00:47:37.580 they promised their membership, the dairy lobby, that didn't matter what people voted for,

00:47:44.460 they were going to get their way, which I think is, I think is sad. But, you know, I, I think that the

00:47:50.220 oil oil industry should take notes because, you know, the, the Ottawa, the government in Ottawa

00:47:55.420 seems completely willing to sacrifice the oil and gas industry just, you know, over almost nothing.

00:48:04.060 But they won't budge on this when our entire economy is on the line. It's embarrassing.

00:48:09.020 Well, in, you know, especially given the reality that we live in, like we have a cost of living crisis,

00:48:13.900 Canadians can't afford groceries at the same rate. I think like, what is it, 40% use a food bank,

00:48:19.500 or 20%, sorry, have used a food bank, millions and millions of Canadians. It's like, how about we

00:48:24.460 introduce a policy that might lower the prices, add some competition in there? I think you're right

00:48:27.980 that Canadian dairy farmers do a great job and it's a good quality product, but couldn't we all benefit

00:48:32.220 from some more competition? We do live in a free market society, or at least we're supposed to.

00:48:35.660 They're treating our milk like OPEC. It treats oil.

00:48:38.060 Yeah.

00:48:38.940 Which is, you know, it's, that's, it's shameful. Seeing milk go down the drain while, while food

00:48:46.860 banks are running out of food. People are lining up, it's actually bread lines, and we're dumping

00:48:52.620 milk down the drain to protect an archaic system that should not exist, and gambling our entire economy

00:48:59.980 over this one issue. This is what Donald Trump wants. He wants concessions on things that we should

00:49:04.620 do, even though the Americans, you know, whether the Americans want us to do it or not. It'd be

00:49:10.380 good for Canadians to open up the market and provide more milk to families so that single moms who have 0.99

00:49:15.420 three kids and are struggling can put milk in their kid's cereal bowl. You know, I looked at a jug of

00:49:21.020 milk when I was going to the supermarket last week. It was like eight bucks for four liters of milk,

00:49:27.100 and a stick of butter was even more than that. Like, it's outrageous.

00:49:30.700 It is. It is. And, you know, again, this is kind of like a low-hanging fruit. It shouldn't take an

00:49:35.180 American putting pressure on us from a trade perspective to do the right thing to help Canadians

00:49:39.900 have a more affordable life. I completely agree with you on that one. Well, Kian, I can't tell you 1.00

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The Candice Malcolm Show - February 13, 2025

The INSIDE SCOOP on my day in Ottawa and interview with Pierre Poilievre

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