The Candice Malcolm Show - February 13, 2025


The INSIDE SCOOP on my day in Ottawa and interview with Pierre Poilievre


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

195.6526

Word Count

9,913

Sentence Count

651

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

In this episode of The Candice Malan Show, Candice talks about her exclusive interview with opposition leader candidate Pierre Polyvenc about immigration, crime, inflation, the election, and much more. She also announces the launch of a new media company, Juno News, with Kian Bextie.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm and welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. We have a great episode
00:00:11.340 for you today. I'm so excited. I have a bunch of things to announce. As you may have seen on
00:00:16.060 social media, as you may have seen in our emails, I'm launching a new media company. So many of you
00:00:20.820 have followed our journey all along. I started True North nine years ago in my living room.
00:00:25.120 It has grown into an incredible fact-based independent news company, media company,
00:00:30.000 that really is changing the media landscape. Well, I am teaming up today with Kian Bextie,
00:00:36.080 who is the founder of The Counter Signal, a fantastic independent journalist from Calgary,
00:00:41.240 Alberta. I just absolutely love his fearless brand of journalism. We're teaming up today
00:00:45.920 to announce Juno News. So Juno News will be a hub and a platform where you can find all of True
00:00:50.580 North's reporting and all of the news, plus Kian Bextie's brand and his own journalism,
00:00:55.820 plus documentaries, podcasts, videos. We have so much for you. So head on over to JunoNews.com,
00:01:01.900 subscribe. And if you subscribe, you get exclusive access to the interview that I conducted with
00:01:08.720 Pierre Polyev. I'm going to tell you all about the behind the scenes behind that interview. I'm
00:01:13.460 going to share with you exclusive clips. And then at 7pm tonight, we are going to air the full interview
00:01:19.260 for subscribers over at JunoNews.com. So make sure you go check that out. I really want you to see
00:01:24.900 the interview. It was great. I got to sit down with Pierre, asked him a wide range of issues and
00:01:31.840 topics. We discussed so many things from immigration to crime. We talked about inflation. We talked about
00:01:38.060 Trudeau. We talked about the election. We talked about a lot of things. So you're really going to
00:01:41.840 want to check that out. So I want to tell you a little bit about the interview because it almost
00:01:45.820 didn't happen. I had been kind of talking behind the scenes with Pierre Polyev's team and the OLO,
00:01:51.820 the Opposition Leader's Office. And we decided to confirm the interview. We chose Wednesday. We
00:01:58.540 decided that that was when it was going to happen. And basically, we were about to fly out. And all
00:02:04.500 of a sudden, anyone who's in Ontario right now knows that we are facing severe winter weather right now.
00:02:10.160 It was a very cold day in Ottawa. And there was sort of like a pending blizzard that
00:02:15.700 was supposed to roll through and completely shut down the airports and everything. And so my husband
00:02:21.120 and I were flying out in the morning to get to Ottawa for the interview. Didn't even know if the
00:02:25.940 plane was going to take off, what was going to happen. Fortunately, we got there, landed, got into
00:02:30.900 a car, rushed downtown to the Conservative Party's headquarters. And I got to go in there, made it just
00:02:38.380 in time to sit down with Pierre. He's such a nice guy, very gracious, gave us lots of time. There were
00:02:43.700 no parameters or restrictions around the interview. I got to ask any questions that I wanted. It was a
00:02:47.880 lot of fun. I really enjoyed my conversation with him. He surprised me with some of his answers, but
00:02:52.480 really just solid stuff. And I really want you to be able to watch that full interview. So like I said,
00:02:58.020 7 p.m. tonight. You have to subscribe though. Go to Juno News and subscribe. I'll give you a little
00:03:03.420 teaser of what the interview looks like. So here is one of my favorite exchanges of the interview
00:03:08.120 when we were talking about illegal immigration and what Mr. Polyev would do to crack down on illegal
00:03:14.560 immigration. One of the other things that's happening in the states right now in the new
00:03:19.280 administration is that President Trump has been serious about deportations. And a couple weeks ago,
00:03:25.720 we had Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying that if he were the Canadians, he'd be concerned that a lot
00:03:30.380 of the bad people that are in the United States right now might try to sneak up into Canada. This
00:03:34.760 happened last time Trump was president, Mr. Trump was president, where we had people crossing illegally
00:03:39.940 through Roxham Road, thousands and thousands and thousands. And it was disgraceful. I went there
00:03:44.960 myself, Pierre, and I couldn't believe it. You had CBSA officers acting like bellhops, lifting their
00:03:49.740 suitcases, putting them into buses, taking them to Toronto or Montreal, their choice. They got to choose
00:03:54.240 where they would go. So we were sort of facilitating illegal entry into our country. I believe Roxham Road
00:04:00.680 has been closed. But I'm sure that happens in other places. I'm wondering, what would you do to stop
00:04:05.640 bad people that are about to be deported from the United States from just walking across into Canada?
00:04:11.380 Well, they closed Roxham Road 30 days after I issued an ultimatum to Justin Trudeau that he had to close
00:04:17.740 it or that we would move a non-confidence. And so he actually met my ultimatum and closed it,
00:04:23.820 which proved that what they had been saying before was all a lie. They claimed they had no way of closing
00:04:27.740 it. Well, of course they had a way of closing. They didn't want to. We have, we're a nation with borders
00:04:33.520 and we have the ability to seal our borders against illegal crossers and to block people from coming
00:04:39.400 in. And those that get onto our soil, what you need to do is just do a last in first out refugee review of
00:04:48.880 their claim. And this is how it works. If you're the last person into the country, then you immediately have your claim
00:04:55.640 heard, which means that within a couple of weeks, if your claim is false, you're sent back.
00:05:02.120 What that does is it sends the signal to everyone who might come in the future that they're going to be sent
00:05:11.320 home all automatically. The problem right now is that if someone gets in illegally, they then, and even if
00:05:16.180 they're not, they're not a real refugee, they're not fleeing danger, they have seven or eight years
00:05:21.660 of appeals, appeals, appeals, during which we're paying for hotels and lawyers and food and health care
00:05:27.600 above and beyond what Canadians get. Above and beyond what Canadians get. So that then attracts
00:05:32.640 more people to say, oh, hey, if I get to Canada, even though I'm not a real refugee, I can get into the
00:05:37.860 country and I'll be bounced around in the system at someone else's expense forever. If we solve that
00:05:42.980 problem, the message would go out very quickly that Canada is not a place you come to make a false or
00:05:48.720 fraudulent claim. And I believe you would see a very real reduction in the number of people who
00:05:54.680 even tried to come. I have a lot of sympathy for real refugees. My wife is a refugee. This has been
00:06:00.160 a wonderful refuge for people who genuinely have claims, and that still will be the case when I'm
00:06:04.360 Prime Minister. But we can't take in fraudulent, fake claimants and pay their bills for seven years
00:06:09.800 while they work the system.
00:06:11.220 So there it was. And again, we're going to release the entire interview tonight at 7 p.m. on our website,
00:06:16.240 junonews.com. Head on over there, subscribe so you can make sure that you get access and you can
00:06:21.360 watch that entire interview. Okay, folks, let's get to the news today because there is quite a bit
00:06:25.640 to get to today. I want to talk about the premiers. So the Canadian premiers all went down to Washington,
00:06:33.020 D.C. They're all trying to negotiate, trying to figure out what is happening with the tariffs,
00:06:37.960 trying to make some inroads with the Trump administration. Kind of a little too little too
00:06:42.300 late, guys. But at least they're finally there doing what Danielle Smith did from day one,
00:06:46.500 which is just have some face time, have some one-on-one time, get to know people, try to figure
00:06:50.940 out what is exactly going on behind these threats. How can we negotiate a better deal? How can we
00:06:56.140 secure a better life for everybody in North America? We all want the same stuff here. We all
00:07:01.240 want secure borders. We all want safe streets. We all want to get drugs off our streets. We don't want
00:07:06.220 criminals. We don't want terrorists. We don't want illegal immigrants. We all agree. And we all want a
00:07:10.900 strong economy. We want mutually beneficial things. So let's go down and talk about it. This is
00:07:16.640 something that came out of it that I just think is so embarrassing. Okay. So first you had Doug
00:07:20.820 Ford, Ontario premier. He's in the middle of the election. He's striking a good tone. A lot of people
00:07:24.840 I talk to around Ontario, they might not like Doug Ford that much. They might not like the conservative
00:07:28.760 government that much, but they like the way that he's approaching the situation, his tone and his
00:07:33.940 ideas. And so graciously, you know, he was asked, who in the White House did you meet with? Who were you
00:07:39.460 meeting with? And he politely said, you know, I'm not at liberty to say, but we had some productive
00:07:43.180 meetings. And I think that's the way to go. You don't go out and name people's names and expose
00:07:48.960 what the conversations were like when you're in the middle of a negotiation. So Doug Ford kind of
00:07:54.960 playing it smart. And then on the other hand, you have the BC premier, David Eby, who came right out
00:08:02.940 and just said everything. So here we have global news reporting that BC premier, David Eby says the
00:08:09.320 premiers had a frank conversation with Trump administration officials about the 51st state
00:08:13.880 comment and stressed it's a non-starter. Eby says that the two representatives that they met with,
00:08:19.220 and then he names them, deputy chief of staff, James Blair and director of presidential personnel,
00:08:24.760 Sergio Gore agreed to share a few items with Trump. One, the willingness to engage,
00:08:30.140 two, work on key areas of agreement, and three, that Canada would never be the 51st state.
00:08:36.760 Well, I think David Eby was speaking out of terms because James Blair himself, the person who he met
00:08:43.540 with, commented and replied to this on X. He said it was pleasant to meet with the premiers. To be clear,
00:08:51.320 we never agreed that Canada would not be the 51st state. We only agreed to share Premier Eby's
00:08:58.420 comments. Further, we said the best way to understand President Trump's position is to take
00:09:03.580 what he says at face value. Unbelievable, folks. Unbelievable. So because David Eby was out there
00:09:11.620 speaking out of turn, because he volunteered the information to the media that the 51st state
00:09:16.420 comment is off the table, well, that obviously annoyed the Trump administration. That obviously
00:09:21.200 annoyed Mr. Blair. So what did he do? He doubled down because this is what we're doing. We're in the
00:09:26.480 middle of a negotiation. You have the Canadians speaking out of turn, saying that they agreed to
00:09:30.760 something that the Americans said, no, no, no, that's one of our main negotiating sticks. This
00:09:35.640 is a stalking horse, folks. This is what the Americans are threatening Canada with so that they
00:09:40.980 can get a better trade deal. And by Canada saying, no, no, no, this is off the table. It's not going to
00:09:45.840 happen. It's just making the Americans double down. This is just bad negotiation tactics. Again,
00:09:50.880 everybody should go out and read the art of the deal, okay? Donald Trump has let us know
00:09:55.040 from, for years. He published this book like 30 years ago. We know how he negotiates a deal. We
00:10:00.920 know his strategy. This is just one of his tactics. And now that he's president, he's using it. And so
00:10:05.960 is his administration. So to have the BBC premier come out and do this, it was a gaffe. It was a faux pas.
00:10:11.780 It was embarrassing. It doesn't help the negotiation. Again, I think that premier Ford is taking the right
00:10:17.560 approach. Okay, well, we got some further clarity. We had another speech. So Justin Trudeau is
00:10:23.420 gallivanting around Europe. You know, guys, this is so frustrating. So frustrating, folks. We have a
00:10:29.780 crisis in Canada, right? We are facing impending doom with a tariff threat from the U.S. administration,
00:10:36.660 okay? And what is our prime minister doing? Gallivanting across Europe, going from city to
00:10:41.600 city, engaging in the kind of international development stuff that he prefers, frankly,
00:10:46.600 than rolling up his sleeves and doing the hard work. We don't have parliament. We don't have
00:10:49.860 government in session. And then here we have Prime Minister Justin Trudeau trying to stir the pot,
00:10:54.220 trying to gain favor for his Liberal Party, get more people. You know, the more people are afraid
00:10:59.340 of the Americans, the better that the Liberals are doing in the polls. So here's Trudeau speaking at
00:11:05.180 a press conference in Brussels, Belgium. Justin Trudeau told reporters, again, he said this in the past,
00:11:10.860 he says, there's not a snowball's hell in chance that Canada will ever be the 51st state.
00:11:14.660 And he added, at the same time, we have to take seriously what President Trump says. Let's play
00:11:20.420 that clip. There's not a snowball's chance in hell that Canada will ever be the 51st state.
00:11:27.560 At the same time, from having worked with President Trump for over eight years now,
00:11:35.520 I can tell you that we have to take seriously what he says and make sure we're responding
00:11:44.440 appropriately. So after initially not taking the comments by Trump very seriously, remember that
00:11:50.920 Trudeau sort of laughed it off at the beginning, which I think is actually the right approach. I
00:11:54.560 talked to Preston Manning and he agreed. He thinks that this was all initially meant as a joke to kind
00:12:00.940 of ruse Trudeau and tease Trudeau, and that it's really the Laurentians and the media that are
00:12:06.920 blowing things out of proportion, making it seem like it's a real threat that Canada is about to
00:12:10.940 get annexed any minute. Well, Stephen Harper, the former conservative prime minister, jumped in and
00:12:16.700 shared serious concern. So Stephen Harper was speaking on Tuesday in Ottawa at a launch party for
00:12:24.100 his book, Flags of Canada. And there he said that US President Donald Trump's annexation threats
00:12:30.000 should be met with unwavering determination to preserve this country's independence at any cost.
00:12:36.600 He said that Canada should accept any level of damage to fight back against Donald Trump. So it seems
00:12:43.260 like former Prime Minister Stephen Harper really takes this threat literally. And he does think that
00:12:49.960 Trump is trying to take over Canada, that it is a serious, literal threat, that we should be willing
00:12:56.420 to accept any level of damage. I don't agree with that, folks. I think that, again,
00:12:59.840 this is all part of the negotiation. And look at what Danielle Smith had to say in Washington,
00:13:06.440 D.C. She says that she thinks that they're making inroads and that things are going well.
00:13:10.260 So the people who are on the ground talking to American officials and Republican insiders in
00:13:15.240 Washington, someone like Danielle Smith, says, like, let's not lose our minds over this.
00:13:20.320 Let's keep calm and negotiate a deal. Here is what Danielle Smith had to say.
00:13:24.340 I think diplomacy is working. I think that the fact that we got a 30 day reprieve was because we
00:13:30.760 agreed to work on the cross border problem of fentanyl. I was pleased to see the federal
00:13:34.620 government announced a fentanyl czar. And my administration has already been in touch with
00:13:39.100 him to talk about how in Alberta, we can lend to the success of those efforts. So what I would say
00:13:44.960 is what I've seen from this president is that he is prepared to make a deal.
00:13:49.120 And in other news, Canada has finally appointed a fentanyl czar. So the Trudeau government on
00:13:54.920 Tuesday appointed Kevin Brousseau, his national security advisor, has now become Canada's first
00:14:02.160 fentanyl czar. Brousseau is a former senior officer in the RCMP rising up the ranks to become Manitoba's
00:14:07.780 deputy commissioner in 2016. He left policing in 2019 to become a senior public servant, serving as
00:14:14.720 the assistant deputy to Transport Canada and then associate deputy for the Department of Fisheries.
00:14:20.860 Speaking to reporters in Washington, D.C., Finance and Intergovernment Affairs Minister Dominic LeBlanc
00:14:26.400 said that he had spoken to Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, about Canada's new fentanyl
00:14:32.840 czar, adding that he feels confident that they very much have their attention. Here is this clip from
00:14:37.920 Washington. Howard Lutnick was there. The national economic advisor to President Trump was also
00:14:46.640 there. We started the conversation by discussing our shared priorities around border security and the
00:14:53.940 fight against fentanyl. We took stock of the good work that has been done around illegal migration.
00:15:00.620 We spoke about the appointment of our fentanyl czar who will be in Washington in a few days. I'm confident
00:15:07.560 that we very much have their attention. They made that clear to us that Canada is very much top of
00:15:15.740 mind for the work that Mr. Lutnick's doing. That was encouraging. Okay, moving on. So yesterday on
00:15:21.240 the show, I had Cosme Zherja, a senior reporter and journalist for True North, on the show. We spent
00:15:26.180 the entire episode talking about Mark Carney and how he has not really been vetted. We don't really know
00:15:30.880 much about him. And yet he's basically been selected to become Canada's next prime minister. He will
00:15:37.160 probably be the prime minister sometime in early March after the liberal leadership vote. Well,
00:15:43.460 I want to show this clip of Mark Carney that's making the rounds. He was in Kelowna, British Columbia.
00:15:49.400 And here's what he tells the crowd. He says that all of the federal powers of the federal government,
00:15:56.480 including the Emergencies Act, should be used against the Americans in this trade war. So first of all,
00:16:02.100 the liberals are playing this up as a crisis, as an existential threat to Canada, because it's
00:16:06.200 better for their electoral future if Canadians are afraid and worried and fearful and divided. This
00:16:11.840 is the liberal playbook. They've used it over and over again. And Mark Carney, again, just lets the
00:16:16.100 cat right out of the bag and says, hey, remember when we use those Emergencies Act illegally during
00:16:21.040 the COVID Freedom Convoy to crack down on peaceful protesters? Well, we're going to do that again. We
00:16:27.680 will use the emergency power once again. It's just one crisis, one emergency after the next for
00:16:33.180 these people. And again, Carney showing us a different side of him that you probably won't
00:16:38.520 see in the legacy media. Here is that clip. And something that my government is going to do
00:16:43.100 is to use all of the powers of the federal government, including the emergency powers
00:16:48.040 of the federal government to accelerate the major projects that we need in order to build this economy
00:16:54.000 and take on the Americans. Now, True North and Juno News may be some of the only outlets in the country
00:17:01.800 delivering the news, telling you the truth, telling you the facts about someone like Mark Carney,
00:17:07.040 who is, again, very unvetted. The media is not looking at him critically. They are not showing
00:17:11.400 Canadians the full picture. They're just giving him this sort of glossy, rosy honeymoon period. Like,
00:17:17.340 look at this fresh new face. He's a smart central banker who's going to come save Canada from
00:17:21.760 those mean, nasty Americans. Well, you deserve to see both sides. Canadians deserve to see both sides
00:17:27.340 because otherwise Canadians aren't going to know who this man really is. And again, I'm worried that
00:17:32.880 Canadians will make a colossal mistake in the next election if they don't learn more. And so, again,
00:17:38.080 we've seen this in the polls. I had Hamish Marshall, great pollster, on the show earlier this week to
00:17:42.860 talk about the fact that now that Trudeau is out of the picture and now that it looks like Mark Carney
00:17:47.060 will be the person running. The election is actually going to be a lot tighter than we
00:17:51.620 initially thought. It's not going to be a shoe-in for Pierre Polyev and the Conservatives. It's not
00:17:56.260 going to be a cakewalk and an easy majority. So the latest polls to come out, this was in the National
00:18:01.440 Post, a new lege poll suggests that a Mark Carney-led Liberal Party could boost Liberal support by six
00:18:08.460 points, up to 37 percent, tying the Tories, tying the Conservatives. Unbelievable. Unbelievable if Canadians let
00:18:16.460 the Liberals get away with what they've done to the country over the last nine years. I can't say this enough,
00:18:21.760 folks. It is so important that we have independent media. We have an independent news source to hold people
00:18:27.740 accountable, including the legacy media. Hold them accountable because they are not telling you the full story.
00:18:32.880 They're not telling Canadians the truth. Please, I encourage you to go on over to JunoNews.com. Subscribe to our
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00:19:00.900 on over to JunoNews.com and please subscribe. Okay, moving on. So this Saturday is Flag Day. Yes, we have a Flag
00:19:09.660 Day in Canada. It is the day where you're supposed to show your pride in the Canadian flag, honor the
00:19:14.560 anniversary of the new flag of Canada. Remember, we used to have the red ensign. It was redone to show
00:19:19.940 that we were more independent from the United Kingdom. We got the maple leaf. That has been our
00:19:23.840 flag for some 60 years now. And this weekend is the day that you're supposed to remember that,
00:19:29.020 fly the flag, show your patriotism. So it's interesting because we have seen a sort of resurgence
00:19:33.680 of patriotism in Canada, a love of country, particularly on the political left, on the liberal side of the
00:19:40.700 aisle. Recall that during the Freedom Convoy, during the depth of the COVID lockdowns, the Freedom Convoy
00:19:46.080 came out and one of the rallying points that they had was a Canadian flag. They were fighting for
00:19:50.940 their Canadian values that they felt had been taken away from the Trudeau government,
00:19:55.480 their Canadian freedoms that are enshrined in our charter. They were using the flag as a rallying
00:20:00.440 point to show, hey, look, we're all Canadian. We love this country and we want our country back.
00:20:04.500 While the left and the liberals hated that, they hated this idea that this sort of blue collar group
00:20:09.960 of rowdy Canadians were saying enough of the lockdowns and that they were using the flag to
00:20:14.740 the point where the left really separated themselves and denounced the flag. And they decided that the
00:20:19.980 Canadian flag was a symbol of hate. It was a symbol of far right, whatever they called us. It was total
00:20:25.940 nonsense and it was ridiculous. You know, we're talking about years and years of the left demonizing
00:20:31.940 Canadians, telling us that we're racist, telling us that our country is genocidal and that we were
00:20:36.240 built off of oppression. And really saying that they wanted nothing to do with Canada, I was happy
00:20:41.540 for the political right to take over the flag and have that be our symbol because we still love our
00:20:46.060 country. We still believe in our country. Well, now that we're in this trade war with the Americans
00:20:50.680 and war of words between the Trump administration, more Canadians on the political left and the liberals
00:20:56.280 are willing to use the flag and trying to take the flag back. Hey, I'll take it. I think that we should
00:21:01.060 all rally around the flag, unite around the flag. And so if you saw, I did an interview with Preston
00:21:06.740 Manning, the former leader of the Reform Party in Canada, and he had this message for Canadians. He
00:21:12.660 said that the best way to root out anti-Canadianism is to fly the flag. Here is what that looked like
00:21:19.080 when he told me on my show last week. This is anti-Canadianism. Try and root out the anti-Canadianism
00:21:25.060 from our institutions. And one simple practical suggestions I've had to friends is to fly the
00:21:32.880 flag. You know, when you go to the U.S. and go through the Midwestern towns or even in New
00:21:40.520 England, every eight or nine house has one of these American flags on it. Americans, for all their
00:21:49.400 faults that we continually point out, are basically proud of their own country. And one of the ways
00:21:55.020 they show it is to fly the flag. Well, why don't we fly the flag? Why don't we fly the flag?
00:21:59.540 And so, hey, I think that a lot of people may have seen our interview and agreed with us because
00:22:03.480 Pierre Paulyev a couple of days later posted this clip on X. Similarly, encouraging Canadians to go out
00:22:09.540 there, purchase a flag for Flag Day, celebrate the Maple Leaf, celebrate Canada. Here is what that looked like.
00:22:15.540 This Saturday is, in fact, Flag Day. So I'm encouraging everyone, regardless of your political
00:22:22.300 allegiance, to go out, get yourself a flag, big or small, put it on a flagpole in front of your home
00:22:28.440 or through your window or in any other way that you can show our colors. We're very proud of this
00:22:35.060 country. We'll never be the 51st state. We will always be a strong, self-reliant, sovereign country.
00:22:42.180 So let's show that message by raising the flag.
00:23:12.180 And just because some liberals and some left-wingers on social media are now trying to take the flag
00:23:25.380 back doesn't mean that the actual Liberal Party of Canada has because they haven't officially
00:23:29.620 celebrated or recognized Flag Day since 2020. Remember that Justin Trudeau lowered the flag to
00:23:36.640 half-staff after that fake news hoax of the unmarked grave story came out. He left the flag down at half
00:23:42.780 mass for months and months. It was a total disgrace. It was so disgraceful for our country to be humiliated
00:23:49.140 that way with a prime minister who was basically saying that we should have shame. We should feel
00:23:53.160 shame in our country. We shouldn't fly the flag. We shouldn't celebrate being Canadians. That is the
00:23:57.660 wrong approach. I hope the Liberals will reverse that and once again recognize something like Flag Day,
00:24:02.600 but I don't think it's going to happen this year, we have seen some Liberal boosters online, like I said,
00:24:08.000 have a little change in tune, change of tone when it came to the flag. So I'm going to point
00:24:12.180 one of my favorite examples of hypocritical Liberals out. So this is an individual named Mike Gibbs. He is
00:24:18.220 a big Liberal supporter on X and he wrote this back in 2022. Okay, so this was three years ago.
00:24:23.640 He says on this Canada Day, I can't help but think perhaps we need a new flag or a refreshed flag
00:24:31.420 because Canada and arguably our flag was tarnished long before the convoy with centuries of blood and
00:24:38.400 genocidal murder of Indigenous nations. We need a reset. We need a new symbol. So that was on July 1st,
00:24:44.740 2022. Well, the same user, Mike Gibbs, now on February 10th, 2025 had this to say,
00:24:50.780 nothing better than a brand new Canadian flag. We just got it from Canadian Tire. F Trump,
00:24:57.280 F mega. And then he also wrote, you'd think it was Canada Day. I've never seen this many flags up
00:25:03.360 in Ajax before. The resistance to Trump and Canada is growing. All right, pal, you can see his Twitter
00:25:10.940 bio there, Mike Gibbs with the rainbow flag and the Ukraine flag. Him, he, him pronouns. Thanks, bud.
00:25:18.520 Thanks, bud. So this guy is saying that there's a resurgence in the Canada flag after just three
00:25:23.640 years ago telling us that it was genocidal. Yeah, I think we're tired of that. I think we see
00:25:27.420 through you and your noise. So rich, so much irony in the fact that it's now liberals telling us to
00:25:33.620 wrap ourselves in the flag when for years they have been the ones demonizing the flag. Okay,
00:25:38.760 I want to show you earlier I sat down with Keembexy. Like I said, we were in Ottawa for the release of
00:25:44.820 the new announcement of Juno News. So excited to bring this to you. We filmed a promo video outside
00:25:50.380 and then we went back inside and recorded this interview. So part of what we want to offer
00:25:54.980 to subscribers of Juno News is sort of an inside behind the scenes look at journalism. What is it
00:26:00.720 like to be an independent journalist? What is it like to go around the country and tell these stories
00:26:05.060 to Canadians? It was great to have this sort of fireside chat with Keembe, who is my co-founder
00:26:09.840 at Juno News. We hope to bring you conversations like this. We're going to offer it to subscribers
00:26:15.340 every month. You're going to get a sit down with Keembe and I where we talk about what we're working
00:26:19.340 on, what we're doing, give you a little behind the scenes of what it's like to be an independent
00:26:22.760 journalist in Canada. So here is what that interview looked like.
00:26:28.780 Hi everyone, I'm very pleased to be joined with my co-founder Keembexy. We have come together to start
00:26:34.680 a new media company, as you probably know, called Juno News. And I'm very pleased. We were actually
00:26:39.300 just outside filming and it is freezing cold in Ottawa. So if our noses are a little red and our
00:26:44.380 toes are a little cold, it's because we were outside for like half an hour. It kind of brought back
00:26:48.060 memories of the Freedom Convoy, didn't it? Yeah, frigid cold. The cold that you only get in Ottawa
00:26:52.940 when you're outside trying to capture the moment and the weather just doesn't cooperate.
00:26:58.380 Well, we were talking about it because I lived in Edmonton for four years. I went to the University of Alberta
00:27:01.780 and I actually found that it was colder when I lived in Ottawa because in Edmonton, everyone knows
00:27:07.000 you're going to drive everywhere, right? So you're never really outside for too long. But Ottawa is
00:27:10.260 very much a walking city. So you end up outside a lot, walking from building to building. And it's
00:27:14.520 like a combination of the wind and just the wet cold. It's so cold. Yeah, it gets you down to your
00:27:19.020 bones. I can't stand it, coming from Calgary. But yeah, it's exciting about Juno. I really think that
00:27:24.940 this is going to change the media landscape in the country. Well, so why don't we, I mean, the point of
00:27:29.700 this conversation today is we want to do a bit more of a fireside chat. We're going to talk about
00:27:33.320 the news, but I also want to sort of unveil the curtains a little and let the audience know
00:27:37.800 a little bit like what it's like to be an independent journalist in Canada, like why we're
00:27:41.660 doing what we're doing. And one of the things I wanted to ask you, Kian, like we talked about it
00:27:46.660 a little bit when you came on my show before, but that footage of you with Justin Trudeau on the
00:27:50.580 beach in Tofino, like it's so incredible to me that you were able to do that and no legacy media
00:27:56.020 journalist was. You know, people that had so many more resources, you know, who, they know where
00:28:00.900 Justin Trudeau is. They know what he's doing, but they didn't bother to go and show up there.
00:28:06.660 You've had other opportunities where you've caught up with Trudeau at various places in the country.
00:28:09.880 I think I saw another video of you kind of chasing him out of a meeting somewhere on the East Coast.
00:28:14.640 Yeah, in New Brunswick.
00:28:15.420 So like, how do you do it? Like, how do you find him? How do you stake out? Like, tell us what goes
00:28:20.100 Well, a lot of it comes down to, I mean, our viewers at The Counter Signal, they're really
00:28:26.320 well-connected people. And we get tips every day. Oh, I saw the Prime Minister here. Oh, I saw Greta
00:28:31.940 Thunberg here. Oh, you know, all of these examples of citizen journalism that they're doing, that when
00:28:38.360 they send it to us, we're able to take action. Most people don't have the resources to fly across the
00:28:42.640 country and go find Trudeau when he's coming out of an oyster shop. You know, we do, though, luckily,
00:28:47.960 and we have the questions to pepper him with when he comes out. So it's a bit of a team
00:28:52.080 effort. It's a mutual relationship with our viewers who constantly, you know, they follow
00:28:57.180 his plane. They track it online and give us live updates of what's going on. And of course,
00:29:03.240 our team at The Counter Signal as well, I just couldn't do it without them as well. They are
00:29:07.960 constantly on the ball, finding new events, new locations where we're able to track them down
00:29:13.900 and ask questions. And it's not just Trudeau that we're interested in. It's every,
00:29:17.960 single politician in this country, whether they're conservative, whether they're united
00:29:23.000 conservative in Alberta, or whether they're a liberal in Ottawa. We want to hold the people
00:29:29.480 in power accountable because our viewers deserve nothing less.
00:29:33.220 I feel that way, too. So for me, I started in journalism as an opinion writer. I wrote in
00:29:37.540 the Toronto Sun, I wrote an opinion column. And it started out by me writing my opinion about the
00:29:42.420 immigration system. I was really opposed to what Justin Trudeau was doing in 2016 when he first
00:29:46.240 got elected. I thought that the Syrian refugee pledge was dangerous, just given the volatile
00:29:50.820 population over there and the research I was doing into how they were fast tracking it so people
00:29:56.460 weren't being vetted. They were just rushing people over. It was a total mess. And the more that I
00:30:00.700 wrote about immigration from like an opinion perspective, I started getting so many tips.
00:30:04.980 Like my inbox would just fill up with people inside the government, people who were working on
00:30:09.320 these very programs who kind of like I was onto something or MPs, people, I started getting so
00:30:14.280 many tips, even from immigrants themselves. Like I remember once I broke a story about how people
00:30:19.420 who were not citizens were being sent Elections Canada ballots. And it was literally sent to me
00:30:24.720 by someone who was not a citizen, who was like, hey, they're sending me this ballot. And like,
00:30:29.440 I'm not even supposed to vote in your country. So it is the amazing thing in journalism that like,
00:30:33.240 the more you do, the more it comes to you. It's definitely a positive feedback loop.
00:30:38.200 Yeah. And so much of it comes from the citizen journals. One of my favorite recent examples
00:30:43.660 was when we had the, you know, Elon Musk down there doing Doge in the U.S. and they were uncovering
00:30:50.760 all of the crazy, crazy programs that were happening at USAID or USAID. And then all of a sudden,
00:30:56.800 the sleuths went in and did the same thing to the Canadian equivalent. And, you know, there's a whole
00:31:01.940 thing about whether the website was down, whether they're trying to hide it, whatever happened
00:31:05.320 there. But regardless of that, it was like, all of a sudden, there were dozens, if not hundreds
00:31:09.340 of really amazing researchers finding the most ridiculous examples of these government programs
00:31:15.920 and putting them out there. So, you know, the media is stacked against sort of free-thinking,
00:31:23.280 free-speaking people in this country because the Trudeau government funds the legacy media,
00:31:27.400 like they pay for journalism. But I think that there's just such a groundswell of independent
00:31:32.700 voices, independent media. That's why I'm so excited to be in this space, like to launch
00:31:36.760 Juno News, to have this platform. I think it's like we're at the right place at the right time
00:31:40.640 because hopefully there'll be a change of government. I really hope Pierre Polyev follows through
00:31:45.320 and defunds the CBC like immediately, gets rid of all these other subsidies and programs to
00:31:50.600 journalists because there'll be a vacuum. Like I think, I imagine that a lot of those companies
00:31:54.280 will disappear and more Canadians will come to trusted independent voices. So that's why I'm
00:32:00.540 excited to be launching this. How do you feel? Well, what's terrible about the CBC, aside from
00:32:05.380 their just blatant partisanship, is that they're losing ad money, which is like the number one
00:32:11.040 indicator of a failing news site. Ads are how companies should be run, news companies should
00:32:16.680 be run. If you're not getting views on the site, then what's the point of the news company
00:32:23.940 existing in the first place? And the CBC is hemorrhaging ad revenue. They're supported by
00:32:27.980 our tax dollars, and we're supposed to hope that enough people are viewing it that they're sort of
00:32:32.720 able to sustain themselves, but that just hasn't been the case. It hasn't been the case with most
00:32:37.220 mainstream media legacy outlets, and that's why they rely on the journalism subsidy. On top of all
00:32:43.100 of the ad contracts that they have with the government of Canada and every other provincial government
00:32:47.820 in the country, which is, it's reasonable for governments to advertise on these platforms
00:32:52.040 because, you know, I was talking to someone about this yesterday. On the Counter Signal,
00:32:57.660 we have ads with the Alberta government, and the people that view our news, some of them are like
00:33:05.480 morally opposed to viewing anything in the mainstream media, and especially the CBC, but they still have
00:33:11.620 a right to view messaging that is important from the government, whether it's about budget plans or
00:33:18.280 important, like, announcements that they're making. And the federal government does the same thing
00:33:23.440 with legacy media outlets and even some, like, smaller media outlets. I don't think they pick and
00:33:28.580 choose favorites there, and I think that that's fine, but there's a difference between that and blatantly
00:33:33.440 subsidizing a media company because it's a media company.
00:33:37.420 Well, to the point about ads, it's one of those funny things. It's like, if the government wants to get
00:33:41.300 to your readers, that's the way to do it. And if you say no to those government ads, they're just
00:33:45.060 going to turn and try to find, they basically give the money to your competitors. So I don't really
00:33:49.680 have a problem with that. But the thing that drives me just absolutely crazy is, you know, the whole
00:33:54.540 premise behind the media bailouts is that the media companies said that there's no business case in
00:33:59.380 Canada, that you cannot make money and run a business and do journalism because Canadians aren't
00:34:04.140 willing to pay for it. Well, part of the reason they aren't willing to pay for it is because the CBC gives it
00:34:08.160 away for free, right? The CBC doesn't have a paywall. They don't require a subscription.
00:34:11.300 So they're doing all of this journalism, giving it away for free. And then they say to their
00:34:15.900 competitors, like, you know, you have to monetize by creating subscriptions and paywalls, but you're
00:34:20.780 competing on an uneven playing field because the CBC has them. But then even for the large newspapers
00:34:25.880 like the Toronto Stars and the Post Media, you know, they say that they need the government bailouts
00:34:31.400 just to exist and they wouldn't exist without it. But I think that the independent media has again
00:34:35.520 proven that the claim that they're making is false. It's not true. Canadians are willing to pay for
00:34:40.840 journalism. They're willing to pay for news. We're living proof of that, right? Like, look at the
00:34:44.680 businesses that we both built. Look at the Rebel. Like, there's so many Canadians that are willing
00:34:49.320 to pay for this. And we all have, like, successful thriving businesses because Canadians are so
00:34:54.140 passionate about paying for the news that they're willing to sometimes not even pay for the
00:34:57.580 subscription, but they want to donate and give us an extra $200 to make sure that, you know, we're
00:35:01.520 able to get the resources that we need. And so I think the entire premise of what they're saying,
00:35:08.060 what the newspapers and what the liberals and what the government says has just been completely
00:35:12.700 falsified by our very existence.
00:35:14.740 Yeah, it's a 100% false narrative.
00:35:17.260 Okay, I want to talk about Cosmin Georgia's scoop at True North. But first, I just remembered
00:35:20.780 one other question that I wanted to ask you while we're still kind of talking behind the scenes
00:35:23.980 of what it's like to be a journalist. There's a picture on your X page that's a picture of you,
00:35:28.860 Tucker Carlson, Daniel Smith, Conrad Black, and who's the other one?
00:35:34.460 Jordan Peterson. Jordan B. Peterson. And like, I can't imagine like four bigger, plus yourself,
00:35:39.900 five bigger stars in the world of like Canadian conservatives. So how did you get that picture?
00:35:44.300 Yeah, that's so funny. Tucker was in Calgary on a speaking tour. And I was luckily lucky enough to
00:35:51.340 be invited into this room that they were all in. And we just all sort of got together for a quick photo.
00:35:57.180 And I mean, it looks it looks amazing. It's like it was a dream come true. And Tucker is so funny,
00:36:01.900 too. He's such a friendly guy. So is Jordan, Dr. Peterson. He's a fantastic person to get to know
00:36:09.340 and chat with. You know, and Conrad Black as well. He's a legend in the industry. So being able to chat
00:36:15.740 with him as well was pretty neat.
00:36:17.020 Yeah, my only problem whenever I, you know, I'm lucky enough to be in the room with any of those people
00:36:22.300 is like, how do I even prioritize what I'm going to talk to him about? Like, if I see Jordan Peterson,
00:36:25.900 I'm like, I have like 10 things that I want to ask him about. And it's like, you know,
00:36:29.100 you have like 10 seconds to say something to him. So that's very cool. Okay, let's get to Cosman's
00:36:33.420 scoop because we were talking a little bit about foreign aid. So Cosman Georgia over at
00:36:37.100 True North Wire broke a story exclusive liberal donors, former candidate lead foreign aid organization
00:36:43.580 that has received $180 million since 2015. Isn't this the way that it always goes with liberals? Like,
00:36:50.940 not only are they funding absolutely ridiculous wasteful programs, but somehow they find a way
00:36:56.220 to make their friends rich in the process. How much money was it? $180 million since 2015.
00:37:02.060 And the company includes former liberal donors, former a CEO who once ran for liberal nomination
00:37:10.700 under Justin Trudeau. And so this sort of cozy, cozy relationship that exists, I think something
00:37:15.740 like 70% of this organization's budget comes from Global Affairs Canada. It's called CUSO International.
00:37:23.740 Great digging, great research over there at True North by Cosman Georgia.
00:37:26.860 Cosman's great. Every time I see a new scoop, it's coming from him. He's always on top of it.
00:37:32.300 He always has, he, I don't know how he does it. I wish I, I wish I could have like the, the, the research
00:37:38.700 skills of that guy because he, no matter where it is in the world, whether it's in Canada
00:37:42.460 or in Europe, if someone like mentions Justin Trudeau in like some foreign parliament,
00:37:48.220 he's like published on it within like five minutes of it happening. It's amazing.
00:37:51.900 Yeah. He's got an amazing research skills. One of the, I think probably the most read piece,
00:37:56.220 I don't know if it still is, but for a while, the most read piece we ever had on our website
00:38:00.300 was Cosman put together a map of Canada and he had geotagged all the locations where churches had been
00:38:06.540 burnt down in the aftermath of the unmarked graves hoax that happened. And this, this thing was like
00:38:12.700 referenced by like media companies all over the world. It was really amazing. The initiative that
00:38:17.020 he put together because we, we saw that it was happening. You know, all these churches are getting
00:38:20.300 burnt down and I don't think anyone had like put it all together in one location. So you could see
00:38:24.460 like, it's actually like, it's not just a few, it's not just a handful. We're talking about, I think it's
00:38:29.340 over a hundred churches. Yeah. So honestly, Cosman is as good as it gets. And again, a good win for
00:38:36.380 independent media that we have him on our side. This is why I know that this, this is going to
00:38:40.940 work out well, Juno, because the counter signals, you know, the biggest story that we ever published,
00:38:46.460 like it was, it was viewed so much, broke all the records on our site and around the world
00:38:53.660 was when we published that the 50th church had been burnt. Like once that happened, that, that was so
00:38:58.780 shocking to an American audience that it just, you know, it spread like wildfire to forgive the pun,
00:39:04.780 but it, it's tragic what has happened in this country. You know, if it, if it was any other
00:39:10.140 religion, this would have been treated almost akin to a genocide. What is going on with churches in
00:39:15.980 this country? And I feel like it is slowed down a little bit, but the legacy of that lie that there was
00:39:24.700 mass graves in the ground in Kamloops, they were, they were treating it like it was the Holocaust
00:39:30.380 that happened in this country, which is a, it's, it cheapens the Holocaust. And it's just a lie.
00:39:37.020 There, there were no mass graves, but, and, and the, the word is important. They're mass graves. They
00:39:41.980 were treating it like there was, there was piles of bodies of children buried, which of course, if that
00:39:46.700 did happen, that would be outrageous. That would be insane. And nobody, you know, if, if there was evidence
00:39:51.580 of that happening, we should try to uncover that evidence and expose that injustice,
00:39:56.380 that crime against humanity, that, that evidence just doesn't exist. And the mainstream media
00:40:01.020 willfully lied and misled the public about that in a way that has damaged the reputation of our country,
00:40:07.420 of the Catholic church, to, to another extent, and has warped the, it has warped the image of,
00:40:17.340 you know, an entire religion in this country and the history of our country among the eyes of the
00:40:22.220 world. Well, there's so many things I could say, but yeah, I mean, the, the use of the word mass
00:40:26.140 graves isn't intentional. Like when you think, when you hear that, you think of the Soviet Union or you
00:40:31.260 think of the killing fields of Cambodia or something like that. Like we're never talking about mass graves.
00:40:35.340 And the fact that they use that, I think you're right, that was deceptive. It was repetitive.
00:40:38.940 It was. And, and, and, and it was demoralizing. I think that that was the main thing. Like it's so
00:40:43.660 rich right now, Kian, to see Justin Trudeau and the liberals play this like team Canada, like with
00:40:48.940 the flag and take back the flag and everything. It's like, I'm sorry, you've spent the last nine
00:40:53.100 years and specifically since 2021, telling Canadians that they are racist, that they are, that their
00:40:58.940 country was built on genocide, that it is shameful to be Canadian, exaggerating things that happened in
00:41:04.780 our past, like no one's past is perfect. And I think that Canada made a lot of mistakes with that
00:41:08.460 program. I'm not in favor of residential schools at all. But the reality is they flamed a story,
00:41:14.540 flamed a hoax narrative that Canada had committed genocide, that I'm sorry, but priests and nuns
00:41:19.580 were out there murdering kids. Like it was never true. It was outrageous on the surface. And the
00:41:24.460 legacy media didn't challenge it. Instead, they just promoted it and propagated it. And it did take
00:41:29.100 the independent press. I know that there were some strong voices in the legacy media that came around
00:41:33.500 like Terry Glavin and he did great work on it. But that was like a year or two after the fact.
00:41:37.900 True North, we were telling these facts and reporting this in real time. And it was tough
00:41:42.700 because nobody wanted to hear it. And people were very upset that we would dare question the
00:41:47.900 narrative. And that's all we were doing at the time was just asking some simple questions like,
00:41:51.500 what do you mean ground penetrating radar? What does that mean? What does that entail? When is this
00:41:55.900 report going to be released? When can we see it? Like, what have you found? Just kind of basic questions.
00:42:00.620 And poking some holes in the narrative that we saw. And, you know, I think it's terrible what
00:42:06.220 Justin Trudeau did to the country, what the media did. Because, I mean, imagine like for any young
00:42:11.900 Canadian growing up, you know, you look at patriotism rates, the number of young Canadians
00:42:16.700 that say that they would move to the United States, it's like half. And it's like, well,
00:42:19.500 do you really blame them? They were raised at a time like telling, like, first of all,
00:42:23.580 there's not the same economic opportunities. But you also live in a country that tells them that there's
00:42:27.740 something wrong with them, that their country is wrong, that it was built off the back of something
00:42:31.580 horrendous. And it's the same thing for First Nations children. It's like, imagine being told
00:42:36.780 that narrative and trying to live in that country, being told that you're not, you're not ever really
00:42:41.020 going to have a fair shake. The country hates you, they try to commit genocide against you and your
00:42:45.020 people. Like, it's just such a horrible thing that they did. And that is one thing, I honestly think
00:42:49.340 that's one of the worst things that Justin Trudeau did to this country. A legacy of demoralizing and
00:42:54.380 destroying a generation, making it financially impossible to live, making it almost a crime to
00:43:04.300 love your country and support its history, despite the issues that it had. You know, you made a good
00:43:10.860 point. The residential school system was terrible. You know, I'm the last person that would ever support
00:43:17.020 the idea of a government coming into a family's home and taking kids. You know, that's nuts.
00:43:22.780 That didn't really happen, though. That's the thing. Like, that's why, you know,
00:43:26.540 True North published a book called Grave Error. Tom Flanagan, who's a renowned professor of political
00:43:30.860 science there, you know, he basically makes the point that the program was never compulsory.
00:43:35.660 This idea that they were coming in and swooping and taking kids is greatly exaggerated. And that the
00:43:40.700 numbers, like, it was a voluntary program. Most people actually wanted their kids to go,
00:43:44.540 because they wanted their children to have the opportunity to have a free education.
00:43:47.740 And they were top-notch education in many cases. So, I mean, so many of the things that we say and
00:43:54.780 hear about the residential school program are not true.
00:43:57.500 I think broadly speaking, I would say that it wasn't a good thing for the country. Just, you know,
00:44:03.580 I don't like the government intervening in most cases.
00:44:06.700 Yeah, like, I'm glad that the education is under the provincial jurisdiction. I wouldn't want a federal
00:44:11.100 department of education.
00:44:12.460 Yeah, yeah, it would be a disaster nine times out of 10. But yeah, you know, that is Trudeau's legacy,
00:44:18.460 is the legacy of demoralizing a generation, making it financially impossible to
00:44:22.700 live and work in the country. You know, it's become almost a status symbol to have a home now.
00:44:29.020 That wasn't the case 10, 15 years ago. Once you turned 25, you were sort of on your way to,
00:44:36.220 you know, and you had a job and you started a family, you were on your way, you'd have a home.
00:44:42.700 And on top of that, you know, having kids at this point has become a status symbol.
00:44:46.060 It's impossible to afford children in Justin Trudeau's Canada. And I think that's by design.
00:44:50.860 Justin Trudeau doesn't really care if, if you're struggling to afford groceries,
00:44:55.740 you're not fighting back against the government. That's, that's it, plain and simple.
00:44:59.580 Well, I hope that, you know, having kids, I think having kids is one of the most important
00:45:04.140 things that people can do. Like, like, it's really sad to me to see the plummeting birth rates,
00:45:08.060 something that we don't talk about nearly enough. It's, it's really a alarming trend among young
00:45:12.780 Canadians. There's not having kids. Millennials aren't having kids. Gen Z aren't having kids.
00:45:16.140 I think the replacement rate is supposed to be 2.1. I think right now we're at like 1.3,
00:45:20.300 which is just like terrifyingly low. And I think you're right. When people are demoralized,
00:45:24.620 when they feel like they can't afford things, they're not going to take that next step in life.
00:45:29.660 I wanted to quickly just, before we wrap it up, you know, the premiers are down in Washington, D.C.
00:45:34.700 right now we, you know, we're hearing lots of different things come out of that event. But one
00:45:40.780 of the things that frustrates me is when you have like the federal minister of international trade
00:45:46.860 saying supply management is off the table. Like we're not willing to budge on this basically
00:45:52.300 internal protectionist program that we have, that if you were American, you'd say that's a legitimate
00:45:57.740 concern. So we're saying we're not willing to even talk about supply management of dairy. We would
00:46:03.020 rather have 25% tariffs across the board on everything than worry about upsetting this
00:46:08.140 one special interest group. You made the point that, you know, they were willing to sacrifice
00:46:12.780 Alberta oil, right? But they're not willing to sacrifice this arcane, outdated communist program
00:46:18.940 that protects a couple of hundred dairy farmers.
00:46:20.780 That's literally the sacred cow of this country. The oil lobby could learn a few things from the
00:46:26.060 dairy lobby. The dairy lobby is great at what they do because they have positioned themselves as like,
00:46:31.260 these like supporters of small family farms. Like, like, if we didn't have this communist control
00:46:38.060 over our milk and butter system, then family farms would cease to exist. It's like, no, that's not true.
00:46:44.060 You know, if we let American dairy into the into this country, our farmers, you know, supposedly are great.
00:46:50.300 You know, I think they are. I think that we have great, great farmers in this country and they will be
00:46:55.260 able to manage their own supply. They'll be able to manage a high quality product. They'll be able to
00:47:01.820 grow and compete. And who doesn't want American dairy products and more choice in their supermarkets?
00:47:09.420 Who wouldn't want European cheese in their supermarkets? But for some reason, we are not allowed to allow
00:47:16.300 that free market into our country. For what? To protect this massive lobby that has a ton of money
00:47:22.620 to influence politicians. You know, that's how I started my career was actually exposing the dairy
00:47:27.660 lobby for their manipulative tactics that they used on the Conservative Party and Andrew Scheer,
00:47:32.540 when the Conservative Party was considering getting rid of supply management. And, you know, they,
00:47:37.580 they promised their membership, the dairy lobby, that didn't matter what people voted for,
00:47:44.460 they were going to get their way, which I think is, I think is sad. But, you know, I, I think that the
00:47:50.220 oil oil industry should take notes because, you know, the, the Ottawa, the government in Ottawa
00:47:55.420 seems completely willing to sacrifice the oil and gas industry just, you know, over almost nothing.
00:48:04.060 But they won't budge on this when our entire economy is on the line. It's embarrassing.
00:48:09.020 Well, in, you know, especially given the reality that we live in, like we have a cost of living crisis,
00:48:13.900 Canadians can't afford groceries at the same rate. I think like, what is it, 40% use a food bank,
00:48:19.500 or 20%, sorry, have used a food bank, millions and millions of Canadians. It's like, how about we
00:48:24.460 introduce a policy that might lower the prices, add some competition in there? I think you're right
00:48:27.980 that Canadian dairy farmers do a great job and it's a good quality product, but couldn't we all benefit
00:48:32.220 from some more competition? We do live in a free market society, or at least we're supposed to.
00:48:35.660 They're treating our milk like OPEC. It treats oil.
00:48:38.060 Yeah.
00:48:38.940 Which is, you know, it's, that's, it's shameful. Seeing milk go down the drain while, while food
00:48:46.860 banks are running out of food. People are lining up, it's actually bread lines, and we're dumping
00:48:52.620 milk down the drain to protect an archaic system that should not exist, and gambling our entire economy
00:48:59.980 over this one issue. This is what Donald Trump wants. He wants concessions on things that we should
00:49:04.620 do, even though the Americans, you know, whether the Americans want us to do it or not. It'd be
00:49:10.380 good for Canadians to open up the market and provide more milk to families so that single moms who have
00:49:15.420 three kids and are struggling can put milk in their kid's cereal bowl. You know, I looked at a jug of
00:49:21.020 milk when I was going to the supermarket last week. It was like eight bucks for four liters of milk,
00:49:27.100 and a stick of butter was even more than that. Like, it's outrageous.
00:49:30.700 It is. It is. And, you know, again, this is kind of like a low-hanging fruit. It shouldn't take an
00:49:35.180 American putting pressure on us from a trade perspective to do the right thing to help Canadians
00:49:39.900 have a more affordable life. I completely agree with you on that one. Well, Kian, I can't tell you
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