The Candice Malcolm Show - August 27, 2021


The legacy media rushes to defend the Liberals

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The Canadian press pretend to be the arbiters of truth, the legacy media lean in to defend Mary Amonsef, and the Toronto Star sends a pathological message on its front page. It's Fake News Friday, and we're taking fact checking to the next level.

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00:00:00.000 The Canadian press pretend to be the arbiters of truth, the legacy media lean in to defend
00:00:04.780 Mary Amonsef, and the Toronto Star sends a pathological message on its front page.
00:00:09.560 It's Fake News Friday, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:17.720 Hi everyone, happy Friday.
00:00:19.320 It is Friday, so we are going to do Fake News Friday, where we run through the legacy media
00:00:23.740 and point out how fraudulent they are, how much they lie, how they push misinformation,
00:00:28.880 and how you just cannot trust them.
00:00:31.100 So we're going to start with this Canadian press report.
00:00:34.060 The sort of theme of the week, being pushed by the Liberals and being picked up, of course,
00:00:37.840 by the mainstream media, the legacy media, is that Erin O'Toole supports more private delivery 0.85
00:00:43.720 within our universal healthcare system.
00:00:46.340 The Liberals put out that doctored, manipulated video early in the week, and because of that,
00:00:50.700 because Twitter slapped that label saying it was manipulated, we saw a lot of mainstream
00:00:54.560 media covering for the Liberals and pushing their views.
00:00:57.500 So what does CP, what does the Canadian press decide to fact-check?
00:01:00.720 Instead of fact-checking the Liberals, who were caught pushing misinformation on Twitter,
00:01:05.400 instead of fact-checking them and their partisan spin that has been exposed as being untrue,
00:01:10.640 instead the CP acts like good little journalists doing what the Liberals want,
00:01:15.720 doing the Liberals' dirty work, and goes ahead and fact-checks the accusation against Erin O'Toole,
00:01:20.840 which is that he wants to privatize healthcare.
00:01:23.080 So we saw this report go throughout the Canadian press, is the wire service, so their reports
00:01:28.380 go throughout the legacy media in newspapers across the country.
00:01:32.240 It was featured in the Toronto Star and many, many other publications.
00:01:36.320 So this is taking fact-checking to the next extreme, because the Canadian press, instead
00:01:41.500 of just calling it a fact-check, they call it a truth test, a truth test, because they
00:01:45.900 want you to believe that they are the arbiters of truth.
00:01:48.520 Whatever they determine to be true is the truth.
00:01:51.540 And so let's go through this truth test, this fact-check that the CP has done against
00:01:56.460 Erin O'Toole.
00:01:57.120 So it says this,
00:01:58.120 The truth test is a project of the Canadian press that examines the accuracy of statements
00:02:01.500 made by politicians.
00:02:02.880 Each claim is researched and analyzed to provide Canadians with facts instead of spin.
00:02:07.700 Okay, so we are being told that these are facts and this is not spin.
00:02:11.500 And so the statement that they're looking at is Erin O'Toole saying,
00:02:14.140 I support a public and universal system, full stop.
00:02:18.400 So it gives a bit of background of the whole liberal, pushing, manipulated media issue and
00:02:24.280 how Erin O'Toole has responded.
00:02:26.280 Now let's go down to the analysis part, because this is where we're told that we're going to
00:02:29.920 get the truth, that we're going to get facts and not spin.
00:02:33.320 Interestingly, this is what it says.
00:02:35.160 The issue comes down to the question of whether more private, for-profit health services can
00:02:39.840 be offered without undermining Canada's universal public health care system.
00:02:44.140 Advocates for a universal public system say it can't.
00:02:48.740 Okay, so we're told that we're getting facts here, not spin.
00:02:51.920 We're told that we're getting the truth.
00:02:54.020 And yet the entire analysis is rested upon advocates for universal public systems.
00:03:01.480 So these are advocates.
00:03:02.960 These are people who do activism.
00:03:04.840 This isn't the truth.
00:03:05.700 This is an objective.
00:03:06.660 This is a subjective opinion of people who are activists and advocates for the current
00:03:11.960 status quo public system.
00:03:13.560 Okay, let's read a little bit from what these activists say.
00:03:17.660 So here we have an activist doctor from an organization called Canadian Doctors for Medicare.
00:03:22.620 So we know exactly where this person will stand.
00:03:25.200 And this is what the doctor says.
00:03:26.340 She says,
00:03:26.760 I would say that introducing more private pay into the health care system undermines our
00:03:31.560 universal public health care, regardless of whether or not you're saying you're going
00:03:36.000 to allow for universal access.
00:03:38.640 Using our limited resources to service select few patients who can actually afford to pay
00:03:43.080 privately leaves less resources for everyone else in the system and worsens things off for
00:03:48.260 the vast majority of Canadians.
00:03:49.700 So we found a doctor here that basically agrees exactly with the liberal talking points and
00:03:56.180 dumbs us all down to like the very narrow understanding of Canadian health care.
00:04:01.020 As I talked about on the show yesterday, we know that more than half of the Canadian health
00:04:04.920 care system is delivered privately.
00:04:07.180 And Canadians pay either out of pocket or through private insurance, more than half, 55%.
00:04:12.560 And that's looking at everything from prescription drugs to dentistry to going to see an eye
00:04:17.620 doctor to long-term care facilities.
00:04:19.580 So overall, most of our health care is already private.
00:04:22.800 What they're talking about when they talk about this universal public care is a very narrowly
00:04:27.720 defined few areas of health care, mainly going to a hospital or seeing a family practitioner
00:04:34.320 doctor.
00:04:34.840 Those are the two main areas that are public.
00:04:38.160 And this doctor is saying, if you introduce more private delivery into these, it will hurt
00:04:42.560 everyone, which again, is exactly the liberal position.
00:04:45.600 And she goes on to make this point.
00:04:47.280 She says, we have a limited number of doctors, nurses, health care professionals in Canada.
00:04:51.140 So when you create these private clinics, you're not actually taking pressure off the public
00:04:54.360 system.
00:04:54.680 You're taking professionals away from the public system, which leads to longer wait times in
00:04:58.860 the public system, which is the point of access for far more Canadians.
00:05:03.200 Now, again, this is a very limited way of thinking about health care, because the idea is that
00:05:07.800 we only have a set number of doctors.
00:05:09.520 And if you start allowing for private delivery, those doctors will go over to that system,
00:05:13.900 making the public system more crunch.
00:05:15.840 This isn't even true, though.
00:05:17.080 Just think about how many Canadians go abroad.
00:05:19.660 They go to the United States. 0.55
00:05:20.860 They go to other countries where they can actually make more money.
00:05:23.380 There are tons of very talented doctors that move down to the U.S. for that exact reason.
00:05:27.580 So presumably, if there were more opportunities, more options in Canada to make money, to do
00:05:33.140 more services in Canada, many of those doctors would come back.
00:05:36.580 Also, Canada is a country of immigration.
00:05:38.860 There are so many people that want to come to Canada.
00:05:41.260 There are so many people who are qualified medical professionals, doctors, nurses, who
00:05:45.520 come to Canada and can't practice because of our ridiculous system of credentials.
00:05:50.180 So this idea that we sort of have like a zero-sum game of health care professionals and anyone
00:05:55.180 who moves to the private sector leaves the public sector with fewer resources is just
00:05:59.600 untrue.
00:06:00.280 It's just not the case.
00:06:01.440 So what we're really seeing here is spin from health care professionals who are advocates
00:06:05.800 for one certain position, which happens to be a position that goes against what the
00:06:09.760 Conservatives are advocating for and aligns with what the Liberals are advocating for.
00:06:14.380 So I don't understand how this is a fact check.
00:06:16.780 I don't understand how this is a truth test as the Canadian press are reporting it because
00:06:21.880 really what I'm seeing here is just opinions from doctors.
00:06:24.760 Now, let's keep reading because we have even more opinions from doctors coming in.
00:06:29.200 So next, we hear from another individual named Stephen Staples, who is the National Director
00:06:32.940 of Policy and Advocacy for the Canadian Health Coalition.
00:06:37.400 And again, he just criticizes the Conservative position.
00:06:41.060 He says, by increasing for-profit players in the health care system, you create a two-tier
00:06:45.920 system, which is, again, the very partisan, very narrow, limited, liberal attack line.
00:06:51.660 That's what we hear Justin Trudeau saying all week.
00:06:53.320 That's what we heard Chrystia Freeland saying all week. 0.99
00:06:55.940 And here we go.
00:06:56.760 The Canadian press has just found two people who are health care activists, health care
00:07:00.660 advocates, who make the exact same point as the Liberals.
00:07:04.900 And we're, again, supposed to believe that this is truth.
00:07:07.760 And so this is how the article concludes.
00:07:09.580 It says,
00:07:09.800 This report totally omits the fact that O'Toole has actually pledged more money than the Liberals
00:07:30.220 to go towards public universal health care.
00:07:32.680 Or just the idea that we're talking about increasing the amount of money in health care,
00:07:37.500 both on the private side and the public universal side.
00:07:40.440 So CP just basically runs an opinion piece about how they agree with the Liberals and then
00:07:46.460 brand it as a truth test.
00:07:48.380 And unbelievable, but this is exactly what you expect from the legacy media.
00:07:52.600 Now, speaking of the legacy media carrying water for Liberals, especially when Liberals
00:07:58.020 make mistakes and make gaffes and embarrass themselves, let's talk about the story of
00:08:01.960 Maryam Monsef, the Minister for the Status of Women in the Trudeau government, Member of
00:08:06.760 Parliament, who's running as a Liberal candidate in this election out in Peterborough.
00:08:10.600 Well, earlier this week, she was talking to the Taliban and she called them our brothers.
00:08:15.760 Our brothers, the Taliban. 0.99
00:08:17.280 It was perhaps the stupidest thing that I've ever seen a Canadian politician say, the most 1.00
00:08:22.420 embarrassing and absolutely despicable thing that a Canadian government official could 1.00
00:08:27.520 say on the world stage, speaking to Canadian journalists, but also apparently speaking directly
00:08:33.580 to the Taliban, calling them our brothers. 0.95
00:08:36.720 It was absolutely, absolutely ridiculous.
00:08:39.720 And yet, and yet, we saw many, many journalists jump in to defend Maryam Monsef and say that 0.87
00:08:47.220 what she was doing was actually great.
00:08:49.500 So here we have an individual named Mark McKinnon.
00:08:52.060 He is a senior international correspondent for the Globe and Mail based in London.
00:08:58.360 And this is what he writes.
00:08:59.780 He says,
00:09:00.160 Dear Canada, Maryam Monsef decided to make a plea directly to the Taliban, calling on them
00:09:05.960 to allow safe passage to the airport.
00:09:08.660 She's using the language that she, as an Afghan Canadian, feels would be most effective.
00:09:14.120 Can we do the politics and point scoring later?
00:09:17.000 Well, first of all, no, because we're in the middle of an election, an election that the
00:09:20.120 Liberals decided to trigger, the Liberals decided to call.
00:09:23.120 And here we have a Liberal cabinet minister calling one of the most despicable terrorist
00:09:27.640 organizations on Earth, on planet Earth, our brothers.
00:09:31.180 So yes, this is about politics.
00:09:33.100 And unfortunately, during an election, you're going to see point scoring.
00:09:36.620 So we can't all of a sudden say, let's just rise above the partisan fray in the middle
00:09:41.340 of an election that the Liberals triggered.
00:09:43.960 Next, this idea that somehow Maryam Monsef was doing this brilliant game of diplomacy by
00:09:50.460 talking to the Taliban and using friendly language and calling them our brothers, like
00:09:54.520 that will make them listen.
00:09:56.180 I've got news for Mark McKinnon, apparently a very senior international correspondent.
00:10:01.580 Perhaps he would know that the Taliban have absolutely no regard for women, especially
00:10:06.760 Western women. 1.00
00:10:07.600 They are not going to listen to anything a woman says. 1.00
00:10:10.000 They're not going to listen to anything a Western woman says, like Maryam Monsef. 1.00
00:10:13.260 They're not going to listen to anything a woman who is not wearing a hijab says. 1.00
00:10:17.440 So here we have Maryam Monsef, a Western cabinet minister for a liberal government in Canada.
00:10:23.780 She's a woman. 0.82
00:10:24.680 She's not wearing a hijab.
00:10:25.880 She's speaking in English and she's speaking on Canadian television.
00:10:29.380 The Taliban are not going to respond to that.
00:10:31.340 The Taliban aren't even paying attention.
00:10:33.020 And if they were, they would just laugh at the idea of a woman trying to tell her what
00:10:37.520 to do.
00:10:37.880 So no, that is not good insight over at the Globe and Mail.
00:10:41.160 That is just blatant partisanship defending the liberals.
00:10:45.320 And of course, not alone.
00:10:46.900 Here we have Dale Smith from the Parliamentary Press Gallery, a freelance journalist.
00:10:51.020 Of course, he's saying context matters, everybody, because Maryam Monsef constantly refers to
00:10:57.000 people in Afghanistan as her brothers.
00:10:59.240 So that makes it all okay.
00:11:00.320 Apparently, that makes it all okay for Maryam Monsef to call the Taliban our brothers.
00:11:06.340 And now we have Stephen Marr, another freelance reporter and a frequent writer in McLean's.
00:11:11.500 He says, this is unfortunate language for her to use, but I don't have much appetite for
00:11:16.380 the ginned up outrage.
00:11:17.560 You think she's a Taliban sympathizer?
00:11:19.340 No way.
00:11:19.720 She's not.
00:11:20.420 No, nobody thinks she's a Taliban sympathizer.
00:11:22.640 No one thinks that she's saying our brothers as if she's part of the Taliban.
00:11:25.820 We think that she is making a huge mistake by equating the Taliban as an ally, as a friend,
00:11:32.160 speaking as a Canadian government official.
00:11:34.320 That is not okay.
00:11:35.120 She's not speaking in her private life.
00:11:37.100 She's not speaking as an Afghan refugee or a Muslim woman.
00:11:41.280 She's speaking in her capacity as a government official, and she's saying our brothers to
00:11:46.500 the Taliban.
00:11:47.100 So no, we're not saying that she's part of the Taliban, but we're saying that she's using 0.88
00:11:50.680 despicable language to refer to a terrorist organization.
00:11:54.580 And next, we have a CBC reporter who tweeted in French.
00:11:59.140 She's from Radio Canada, which is the French language part of the CBC, and she says this.
00:12:04.140 This is translated into English.
00:12:05.980 The Taliban call the Afghan women whom they beat and denigrate our sisters.
00:12:10.220 It is in the language, nothing else.
00:12:12.720 And yes, there are women who speak to the Taliban.
00:12:15.720 Okay, that's a very delusional take.
00:12:18.700 And if there are a few women that speak to the Taliban, maybe as intermediaries, they're 0.66
00:12:23.300 not giving advice.
00:12:24.260 The Taliban do not listen to women.
00:12:25.980 The Taliban do not respect women, which is why we see the situation going back to the
00:12:29.940 dark ages with the Taliban in charge.
00:12:32.040 They don't believe in women's rights. 1.00
00:12:33.160 They don't believe in women's education. 0.99
00:12:34.800 They don't believe in basic decency and any kind of kind treatment towards women.
00:12:39.300 So this whole idea that the Taliban are going to listen to Maryam Monsef, okay, good luck 0.99
00:12:44.240 with that.
00:12:44.920 All right, one more story that I want to cover.
00:12:46.860 And it's mostly because I've never seen a front page of a newspaper with such a despicable
00:12:51.960 message.
00:12:52.520 So this was the front page of the Toronto Star on Thursday.
00:12:56.460 And when I read it, I just really couldn't believe what I was reading.
00:12:59.740 The boldened part of the front page here says, I have no empathy left for the willfully unvaccinated. 0.99
00:13:06.020 Let them die. 0.97
00:13:07.520 I honestly don't care if they die from COVID, not even a little bit. 1.00
00:13:12.520 Unvaccinated patients do not deserve ICU beds. 0.99
00:13:16.380 So here we have the Toronto Star, the left-wing newspaper of the city of Toronto, probably
00:13:20.360 the most left-wing newspaper in the country. 0.99
00:13:23.400 And they are openly advocating the idea that if you're not vaccinated, you deserve to die.
00:13:29.540 Now, usually the left-wing parties, the left-wing people are the ones who are the advocates for
00:13:35.220 kindness and empathy and love and all these things.
00:13:39.560 And yet when it comes to this debate over vaccines and how we're going to get past COVID,
00:13:44.920 all of a sudden, the whole idea is that they have no empathy.
00:13:48.340 The story that this front page was based on was an entire story about empathy and how we're
00:13:52.480 just not seeing a lot of empathy between the two camps, between the vaccinated and the
00:13:56.940 unvaccinated.
00:13:57.820 But pushing this message, I'm not even sure who this is a quote for.
00:14:01.040 I read the entire piece and I'm not sure who is saying this, this thing that was written
00:14:05.580 on the front page.
00:14:06.120 I have no empathy for the willfully unvaccinated. 1.00
00:14:09.300 Let them die. 0.95
00:14:10.480 From best I can tell, it's just the author taking things from Twitter, pulling things 0.99
00:14:14.440 off of Twitter, and they decided that they were going to put that on the front page.
00:14:18.480 This is the most heartless thing perhaps ever written on a front page of a newspaper in
00:14:24.140 Canada.
00:14:24.680 And it's interesting.
00:14:25.380 So over at True North, we broke this story this week that the CBC has instructed their
00:14:30.360 own employees that getting vaccinated is their choice, that it is a personal choice and they
00:14:35.200 will not implement mandatory vaccines at this time.
00:14:39.020 Interesting because they're pushing forward this partisan liberal campaign message and this
00:14:43.860 wedge issue that Justin Trudeau has brought forth saying that we must have mandatory vaccines
00:14:48.420 and that is the liberal path towards victory.
00:14:50.840 So the CBC, again, is carrying water for Trudeau in advocating this position, but they don't
00:14:55.920 practice what they preach because they're not making it mandatory at the CBC.
00:14:59.760 True North has also reached out to the Toronto Star regarding their vaccination policy, but
00:15:03.780 we have not yet seen a response.
00:15:06.160 This is getting into very dangerous, dicey territory.
00:15:08.980 We as a country.
00:15:09.660 Where we have divided our country into the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, the we versus 0.93
00:15:15.040 them.
00:15:15.740 And we see the two sides being pitted against each other.
00:15:18.340 Here we have a mainstream media organization, the Toronto Star, on their very front page pushing
00:15:23.620 this insanely, insanely heartless, cruel message.
00:15:27.680 This is a country we live in, a country we live in where we just shrug our shoulders and 0.99
00:15:32.040 say, you deserve to die if you don't make the exact same medical choice that I do.
00:15:36.480 I think that is an incredibly sad reflection on the country and even worse, a sad reflection 1.00
00:15:41.920 on the mainstream media.
00:15:43.540 Shame on the Toronto Star for putting out a despicable headline.
00:15:47.360 All right, that's it for me, everyone.
00:15:48.660 Have a great weekend.
00:15:49.400 We'll be back next week.
00:15:50.340 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:15:57.680 We'll be back next week.