The Candice Malcolm Show - February 25, 2022


The media isn’t finished smearing Canada’s truckers


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35 minutes

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197.95709

Word Count

7,106

Sentence Count

393

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.100 Bad takes on Ukraine, the legacy media continue to lie about the freedom convoy, and the anti-social yob guy thinks that conservatives are extreme.
00:00:08.480 It's Fake News Friday, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:15.300 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in.
00:00:17.860 So we haven't really had a chance to get into the situation in Ukraine yet on the show.
00:00:22.140 Maybe we'll do that next week.
00:00:23.820 It looks pretty scary over there.
00:00:25.320 The situation is pretty tense with Russia and Putin invading Ukraine.
00:00:29.020 Boots are on the ground, there's explosions, there's bombing, lots and lots of scary scenes, lots of refugees fleeing, lots of fighters getting ready to engage in a conventional warfare, which we haven't seen in quite some time.
00:00:39.820 Now, we're not going to focus in on the serious part of Ukraine.
00:00:42.720 We're going to focus in on what you kind of have come to expect, right?
00:00:46.240 So over the past few years during COVID, we have seen every single journalist in the world basically become an expert in public health, in epidemiology, and in COVID.
00:00:55.720 Well, today and this week, what we saw is a lot of those experts on public health take off their public health expert hat and put on their foreign affairs expert hat and give us their sort of worst takes on Ukraine.
00:01:10.980 And it is kind of amusing.
00:01:12.640 So joining me for Fake News Friday today is True North producer Harrison Faulkner.
00:01:16.840 Harrison's a journalist here at True North.
00:01:19.240 Harrison, first of all, welcome to the show.
00:01:21.300 Second of all, why don't you walk us through some of the worst tweets that we've seen so far on Ukraine?
00:01:24.820 Yeah, so just as you said, Candace, we've pulled some of these foreign policy expert tweets, and they are, as you expect, they are just absolutely ridiculous.
00:01:35.860 So yeah, we're going to go through a couple of them.
00:01:37.640 This first one comes from Cenk Uygur, who's notorious for his bad takes.
00:01:41.300 He's the head of the Young Turks, which is this left-wing progressive YouTube news channel.
00:01:48.480 And he basically says that the right-wing doesn't love Putin just because he's an authoritarian, tyrannical leader.
00:01:55.220 They love him because he's a white authoritarian leader.
00:01:58.420 Race has become more important than even nationality.
00:02:01.100 They've turned on democracy and now even America in favor of a white warlord.
00:02:05.800 So, of course, as you can see, Candace, they are already preparing for this to be a racial war and has nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia.
00:02:15.060 Really, it just comes down to skin color.
00:02:17.900 Well, it's so absurd, Harrison.
00:02:19.940 First of all, I follow a lot of Republicans, and most of them are condemning Putin pretty hard right now.
00:02:25.240 Second to Cenk Uygur's position here, does he realize that Ukrainians are also white?
00:02:31.220 The whole idea that people are rallying behind Putin because he's white sort of ignores the broader picture here,
00:02:36.080 that this is a European war where both sides happen to have the same skin color.
00:02:40.340 Anyway, I'll give it back to you.
00:02:41.640 Well, I mean, that's the nature of these tweets we've pulled, and you can just see exactly where this is going to be heading.
00:02:49.560 Janelle Forsythe, who is a comms specialist for nonprofits and progressive causes, she writes,
00:02:56.460 This isn't discussed much, but Putin very much benefits from white privilege.
00:03:01.600 I just can't see a scenario in which a black or brown man running Russia will be allowed to invade Ukraine with no devastating consequences.
00:03:09.500 White supremacy will destroy us.
00:03:11.080 So, one thing quickly.
00:03:12.260 I agree with Janelle Forsythe that I can't really see a black or brown man running Russia as well.
00:03:17.400 But also, if you were to look at Africa, for example, where warlords run those countries all the time,
00:03:23.700 there is constant fighting and taking over of countries there all the time.
00:03:28.440 It's a little ridiculous, and I think that, you know, this is, again, like I said,
00:03:33.520 this is just what should be expected from some of these progressives on Twitter.
00:03:37.940 Well, not just that, Harrison, but it's like people who don't follow foreign affairs,
00:03:41.160 people who have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to international relations.
00:03:43.720 They're not observers of international conflict.
00:03:45.980 But suddenly, when the news cycle switches to Ukraine, they're the expert, trust them,
00:03:50.900 and they're going to have some really insightful takes, as we can see here.
00:03:54.320 Well, and Candice, this next one is quite funny,
00:03:56.960 and it leads to the point about how these public health experts who are now engaging in foreign policy,
00:04:01.840 they haven't totally forgotten about public health.
00:04:03.740 So, this one is from Dana Houle, who is a U.S. leftist activist,
00:04:08.040 and she writes, a lot of people in Ukraine crowding together inside.
00:04:12.440 Only 35% of Ukrainians have been vaccinated.
00:04:15.280 Less than two have been boosted.
00:04:17.100 So, again, the Ukrainians should be concerned about COVID.
00:04:21.460 They should be concerned about their vaccination status,
00:04:23.760 not too much about what's happening in Ukraine.
00:04:26.940 Just an unbelievable take.
00:04:30.260 Yeah, forget about the bombs crashing down.
00:04:33.280 Forget about the gunfire, the real threat, the real concern for everyone.
00:04:37.580 Still COVID, don't forget that.
00:04:39.020 Yeah, maybe we should be sending them N95 masks instead of rifles to really protect them.
00:04:44.920 And then this last one, which was horribly ratioed, from Stephen King, a fiction author.
00:04:51.400 You've probably heard of him.
00:04:52.840 He wrote, on February 22nd, just about a day before Putin decided to invade Ukraine,
00:04:58.540 he wrote,
00:04:58.880 When Mr. Putin has made a serious miscalculation, he forgot he's no longer dealing with Mr. Trump.
00:05:04.300 So, immediately people jumped on this as a, just a, one of the, probably one of the worst takes
00:05:08.820 of this entire situation.
00:05:11.920 Basically saying that,
00:05:13.500 Oh, right.
00:05:14.120 If, if Trump was still the president,
00:05:17.100 Ukraine would have already been gone, apparently.
00:05:18.900 But let's just remember,
00:05:20.240 under Donald Trump,
00:05:21.940 Putin didn't invade Ukraine.
00:05:24.040 Under Donald Trump,
00:05:25.100 China didn't invade Taiwan.
00:05:27.800 All of the, all of the issues that we are seeing really popping off now under Biden weren't occurring.
00:05:34.720 He basically went in and destroyed ISIS immediately.
00:05:38.800 And then from that point on,
00:05:40.820 every other leader, authoritarian leader around the world,
00:05:44.020 recognized that Donald Trump was serious.
00:05:46.600 He would have stopped them and they didn't do anything.
00:05:49.200 So, I'm not really sure where this, where this take is coming from.
00:05:52.660 But, I mean, this, this is coming from a fictional author.
00:05:56.220 Let's just remember that.
00:05:57.160 Well, it's, it's kind of just like Trump derangement.
00:05:59.520 Like, everything must have been worse if, if Trump was in office.
00:06:02.920 Forgetting the reality, right?
00:06:03.980 The, the truth of the matter is that,
00:06:05.540 Vladimir Putin invaded Georgia under George R.B. Bush,
00:06:08.400 when George R.B. Bush was president.
00:06:09.840 He invaded Crimea in Ukraine when Barack Obama was president.
00:06:13.520 He invaded nobody when Trump was president.
00:06:15.500 Say what you will about Trump.
00:06:16.480 Putin didn't invade another sovereign country under Trump.
00:06:20.180 Here we have Joe Biden and we see Putin invading Ukraine.
00:06:24.540 So, so, so, so, so real life history and the facts
00:06:27.740 are completely counter to a lot of this Trump derangement stuff.
00:06:31.520 No wonder the, the tweet was ratioed.
00:06:33.600 And for people who don't know ratio,
00:06:34.940 it just means that a whole bunch more people comment
00:06:36.980 and, and, and, and sort of tell you that you're wrong
00:06:40.080 versus very few people who like your tweet
00:06:42.760 and, and, and share it with your audience.
00:06:44.340 So, yes, let's, let's stick to your fiction writing, Mr. King.
00:06:49.220 Well, aside from, aside from Ukraine
00:06:52.140 and all the consternation and the hot takes over there,
00:06:55.460 the media is still doing their best
00:06:57.500 to try to demonize the Freedom Convoy,
00:06:59.660 continuing to do Justin Trudeau's dirty work.
00:07:01.100 Look, Harrison, I think that Justin Trudeau
00:07:02.880 benefited greatly from the quick change
00:07:05.660 in the news cycle this week, right?
00:07:07.060 So he had the Emergency Act.
00:07:08.320 He used it.
00:07:09.540 He quickly got rid of it
00:07:10.480 without really a lot of explanation,
00:07:12.080 without really being held to account
00:07:14.040 in the way that you would expect
00:07:14.880 a Canadian democratic leader
00:07:16.340 to be held into account.
00:07:17.700 A few hours after he announced
00:07:19.240 that the Emergency Act was over,
00:07:20.520 we got news that Putin was going ahead
00:07:22.640 and invading Ukraine.
00:07:24.100 We saw bombs, we saw troops,
00:07:26.140 we saw, we saw the, the, the surge.
00:07:28.160 And so because of that, everybody focused,
00:07:30.580 everyone's focus immediately shifted to Ukraine.
00:07:32.780 And again, Trudeau benefited from that
00:07:34.200 because it helps him avoid the scrutiny
00:07:36.000 of using the worst power grab in Canadian history.
00:07:40.440 And so I hope that there will,
00:07:42.700 that the conservative opposition,
00:07:44.460 that courts, that judges, that lawyers
00:07:46.100 will continue to expose Trudeau,
00:07:49.500 to unearth the information,
00:07:51.380 to help the people whose lives have been destroyed
00:07:53.480 from having their bank accounts frozen.
00:07:55.440 I hope there's accountability.
00:07:56.800 I hope that we continue to get to the bottom of that.
00:07:59.120 Trudeau has benefited.
00:08:00.840 However, the media continue to do what the media does,
00:08:03.120 which is lie and spread propaganda
00:08:05.040 in favor of Justin Trudeau
00:08:06.540 trying to continue to smear the convoy,
00:08:08.960 even though my guess is that most people
00:08:10.700 who read the legacy media
00:08:11.760 already have a negative view of the convoy.
00:08:13.980 Regardless, they're continuing to do that dirty work.
00:08:16.320 So there's a story over in Global.
00:08:18.100 And a couple of interesting points
00:08:19.440 that I want to make about this story, Harrison.
00:08:22.020 So the headline says,
00:08:23.920 as Freedom Convoy leaves Ottawa,
00:08:25.780 residents continue to look over their shoulders.
00:08:28.240 So this idea that the people in Ottawa
00:08:30.800 are so forever triggered
00:08:31.860 from having a group of working class people
00:08:34.020 protest in their city for three weeks,
00:08:35.800 that they're going to have like PTSD
00:08:37.160 forever because of this.
00:08:39.840 And the idea that they're going to have to
00:08:41.200 look over their shoulders
00:08:41.960 just in case there's a trucker
00:08:43.600 or a working class person in their community.
00:08:46.460 So I'll read a little bit from this
00:08:47.820 because it's quite amusing.
00:08:49.500 It says,
00:08:50.180 the blaring of truck horns,
00:08:51.560 the sound of parties going into the wee hours of the night,
00:08:54.340 a city under occupation,
00:08:56.360 was Jamie Sadgrove's reality for three weeks.
00:08:59.060 Let me just make a quick point.
00:09:00.040 I lived in Ottawa.
00:09:01.280 It's a sleepy little town.
00:09:02.880 Normal cities in the world,
00:09:04.140 I've also lived in downtown Toronto,
00:09:05.500 spent time in some of the biggest cities in the world.
00:09:07.640 Normal big cities have a bustling feel to them, right?
00:09:10.740 The idea of horns honking in the middle of the night,
00:09:13.440 people partying the wee hours.
00:09:14.960 That's just sort of normal city life for most people.
00:09:17.420 For people in Ottawa,
00:09:18.340 it was like unbelievably jarring to the point
00:09:20.000 where they refer to the people
00:09:21.420 who are in their city as occupiers.
00:09:23.200 And it was an occupation,
00:09:24.320 a foreign occupation,
00:09:25.040 sort of like what we're seeing in Kiev right now.
00:09:27.000 It's just so silly to take a step back
00:09:29.500 and to view it under this lens.
00:09:31.200 But I'll continue reading.
00:09:33.300 It says,
00:09:34.160 but as the so-called freedom convoy,
00:09:36.380 freedom convoy in scare quotes,
00:09:37.640 I've seen this in another global piece, Harrison.
00:09:39.840 I think this must be their editorial position
00:09:41.520 that every time they call,
00:09:42.760 they refer to the freedom protest,
00:09:44.560 they call it the so-called freedom convoy,
00:09:46.440 freedom convoy in scare quotes,
00:09:47.580 so that you don't actually believe
00:09:48.980 that they are fighting for freedom.
00:09:50.540 That's just a scare quote.
00:09:51.500 So they put in.
00:09:52.140 So anyway,
00:09:52.940 the freedom convoy vanished from downtown.
00:09:54.680 Sad Grove is starting to see the spirit
00:09:57.200 of a resilient city trickle back into the streets.
00:10:00.300 Everyone seems to be in a better mood.
00:10:02.200 I picked up on that in the streets as well.
00:10:03.800 People smiling at each other,
00:10:05.220 saying hi more often
00:10:06.480 than I think they did before the convoy.
00:10:08.460 And more people are wearing their masks outside now too.
00:10:11.460 Hooray, congratulations.
00:10:12.820 All those horrible working class people are gone.
00:10:15.200 And we're back to our sensible,
00:10:17.140 bureaucrat government town
00:10:18.440 where we're so cautious
00:10:19.300 that we even wear masks outside,
00:10:21.240 even though it's completely unnecessary.
00:10:22.260 So congratulations, Ottawa.
00:10:24.660 You're back to being a completely uptight,
00:10:28.000 ridiculous city
00:10:30.240 that where people wear masks outside.
00:10:32.900 Another person that they interviewed for this story,
00:10:35.720 an individual named Amanda Knox,
00:10:37.560 who lives in Kanata, Ontario.
00:10:39.160 Okay.
00:10:39.980 For folks not familiar with Ottawa,
00:10:42.220 Kanata is not in Ottawa.
00:10:43.360 Kanata is a suburb
00:10:44.200 that is 45 minutes away from downtown Ottawa,
00:10:47.280 45 minutes away from where the convoy was.
00:10:49.040 So keep that in mind as we read this account
00:10:51.020 from Miss Knox here.
00:10:52.820 She says,
00:10:53.620 Monday was one of the few normal days
00:10:55.780 they've had all year.
00:10:57.880 Knox said that she would sleep a little better
00:10:59.860 knowing the convoy had departed
00:11:01.160 from the downtown core 45 minutes away,
00:11:03.380 adding that all members of her family
00:11:04.920 felt a little more at ease.
00:11:06.360 It's good to have that quiet return to the city,
00:11:08.900 said Knox from her quiet suburb
00:11:11.020 45 minutes away from Ottawa.
00:11:13.100 So I guess they're scraping the bottom of the barrel
00:11:15.180 to put together this article,
00:11:16.460 a Harrison where they couldn't find anyone
00:11:18.340 in Ottawa to comment on it.
00:11:19.580 So they went to someone
00:11:20.460 who lived in a suburb 45 minutes away.
00:11:22.700 You spent a bit of time in Ottawa
00:11:24.140 during the convoy.
00:11:25.560 How do you read a piece like this?
00:11:28.720 Well, two things.
00:11:29.900 So on Amanda Knox's account of the noise,
00:11:34.460 I stayed in two different hotels
00:11:36.260 on the second weekend
00:11:37.280 when the trucks were still there,
00:11:39.640 the police hadn't cracked down
00:11:40.940 violently on the protesters.
00:11:41.940 So everything was basically the way it was
00:11:44.040 the first weekend.
00:11:45.900 The first hotel I stayed at
00:11:47.240 was quite close to downtown.
00:11:48.440 So I could hear some of the horns
00:11:49.620 only when I woke up
00:11:50.760 because they stopped blaring their horns at night.
00:11:53.520 But the second hotel I stayed at
00:11:55.100 was 10 minutes away from downtown,
00:11:57.140 but it was still in Ottawa.
00:11:58.820 I didn't hear anything actually.
00:12:00.400 I couldn't hear the downtown.
00:12:02.500 I couldn't hear the trucks.
00:12:05.160 So it's pretty hard to believe
00:12:07.440 that in Kanata,
00:12:08.540 Kanata was reverberating
00:12:10.160 with the sound of truck horns.
00:12:11.320 I doubt that.
00:12:12.780 But on the first account
00:12:15.240 from Jamie Sadgrove,
00:12:16.800 so he says that people are now smiling
00:12:19.500 and waving at each other
00:12:20.780 and saying hi.
00:12:21.680 When I was there,
00:12:22.800 I had never been a part of a group
00:12:24.620 where more people were smiling,
00:12:26.460 more people were happy to be there,
00:12:27.640 and more people were waving,
00:12:29.640 hugging, talking to people.
00:12:31.260 It was actually one of the most refreshing things
00:12:35.300 to be a part of
00:12:35.960 to see that kind of sense of community come together.
00:12:38.920 I live in downtown Toronto.
00:12:40.080 It is one of the most dull cities around.
00:12:43.580 Everyone is miserable.
00:12:44.900 Everyone has their head in their phone.
00:12:47.040 No one is saying anything to anybody.
00:12:49.260 So I just find it to be ridiculous, obviously,
00:12:52.740 that they're going to such great lengths
00:12:54.740 to spin this.
00:12:56.020 But again, it's global news.
00:12:57.460 It's such a good point, Harrison.
00:12:59.640 I heard that from so many people who were there.
00:13:01.460 I unfortunately didn't make it down into Ottawa
00:13:03.020 for these convoys,
00:13:04.100 but I was following it very closely,
00:13:05.480 and I was watching a lot of reporters,
00:13:07.460 including our own,
00:13:08.400 who were down there.
00:13:09.020 And one of the things
00:13:09.540 that so many people commented on
00:13:10.840 was the festival, carnival-like atmosphere
00:13:13.640 and how friendly everyone was,
00:13:15.140 even people who weren't necessarily in support at all.
00:13:18.160 I remember reading a blog by Matt Gurney
00:13:20.540 who was sort of saying
00:13:21.600 that these people weren't his people
00:13:23.120 and didn't like them,
00:13:23.700 but he still said that one of the things
00:13:25.000 that was so notable to him
00:13:26.120 was the eye contact
00:13:27.060 and how people were smiling and friendly,
00:13:29.760 and it was unlike anything he had seen before.
00:13:32.580 And to me, that's sort of like
00:13:33.900 the difference between a small town and a city.
00:13:36.540 When you're in a city,
00:13:37.220 everyone keeps their head down.
00:13:38.040 They keep to themselves,
00:13:39.160 whereas when you're in a small town,
00:13:40.860 people are friendly.
00:13:41.540 People say hi to each other
00:13:42.380 walking down the street
00:13:42.960 even if you don't know each other,
00:13:44.080 and that's just one of those
00:13:44.940 major cultural divides.
00:13:46.380 And it's like when all of these
00:13:48.320 working-class people came to Ottawa,
00:13:49.640 they brought a little bit
00:13:50.440 of their small-town community to the city,
00:13:52.960 and it was nice.
00:13:53.960 I'm sure it was refreshing.
00:13:55.220 So interesting point
00:13:56.680 that you picked up on there.
00:13:57.500 Well, that wasn't the only example
00:13:59.680 of the media just really obsessing
00:14:01.800 over the convoy
00:14:02.560 and trying to paint it
00:14:03.500 in the worst possible light.
00:14:05.220 One of the things that I noticed
00:14:06.300 throughout the convoy
00:14:08.020 was that the media tried
00:14:09.720 to really fixate
00:14:10.580 on a small handful of people
00:14:12.320 in the convoy.
00:14:13.040 So basically what they did
00:14:13.920 was they sifted through the convoy.
00:14:15.980 They found the most egregious people possible.
00:14:18.380 They picked out the biggest lunatics,
00:14:20.180 the craziest people
00:14:20.860 who were making the conspiracy theories,
00:14:22.620 who were talking about
00:14:24.480 how they wanted to overthrow the government,
00:14:25.840 or who were making
00:14:26.800 legitimately racist comments.
00:14:28.840 And then they would hold these people up.
00:14:30.340 The legacy media would hold these people up
00:14:31.620 as if they were somehow
00:14:32.960 the leaders of the convoy
00:14:34.100 or that their views represented
00:14:35.420 everybody at the convoy,
00:14:36.900 treating the convoy
00:14:37.640 like a political party.
00:14:38.600 The thing that the media
00:14:39.280 fundamentally misunderstand
00:14:40.680 or perhaps they deliberately misinterpret
00:14:42.960 because it makes the truckers look worse
00:14:44.480 is that the truckers
00:14:45.700 are not a political party.
00:14:47.020 It never was, right?
00:14:47.820 It was a completely organic
00:14:49.000 grassroots movement.
00:14:50.060 There was word that
00:14:51.020 a couple of truckers
00:14:52.000 were going to do a slow roll
00:14:52.860 from Vancouver.
00:14:53.720 All of a sudden there was convoys
00:14:54.980 all over the country
00:14:55.820 and they were putting together
00:14:56.980 a sort of loosely organized,
00:14:58.340 not a political organization,
00:15:00.240 a protest movement,
00:15:01.400 a group of people
00:15:02.240 who were all coming together
00:15:03.200 because they shared one view,
00:15:04.700 which is that the government
00:15:05.640 had overstepped,
00:15:06.840 that their powers were being abused,
00:15:08.900 that they wanted their lives back, right?
00:15:10.720 And so despite the true nature
00:15:13.820 of the protest,
00:15:14.460 which was that it was
00:15:15.020 totally decentralized and organic,
00:15:17.020 the media treated it
00:15:18.160 like it was a top-down organized event
00:15:21.540 where there was like
00:15:22.260 a couple of brain trusts
00:15:24.040 that were planning the whole thing.
00:15:26.180 And so among that structure
00:15:27.620 that the media invented,
00:15:28.860 they found an individual
00:15:29.780 called Pat King.
00:15:31.260 Now, I pointed this out on Twitter.
00:15:33.260 I'll make the point again.
00:15:34.240 I follow a lot of people in the convoy.
00:15:35.980 I follow it very closely.
00:15:37.140 I follow a lot of conservatives.
00:15:38.540 I have a lot of truckers
00:15:39.240 in my feed constantly
00:15:40.140 and I'm reading what they're saying
00:15:41.200 and I'm hearing how they're communicating
00:15:42.920 and I'm watching them.
00:15:44.220 And I never heard anybody
00:15:45.780 talk about this individual, Pat King.
00:15:47.340 I didn't hear anybody saying,
00:15:48.920 go check out his videos.
00:15:50.260 Let's show him support.
00:15:51.320 I heard a lot of people
00:15:51.980 talking about BJ Dichter.
00:15:53.420 I heard a lot of people
00:15:54.000 talking about Tamara Litch.
00:15:55.260 I heard people talking about
00:15:56.460 lots of other people
00:15:58.220 who were involved.
00:15:59.560 I didn't hear anyone
00:16:00.280 talk about Pat King
00:16:01.100 other than a small handful
00:16:02.920 of journalists
00:16:04.200 in the parliamentary press gallery,
00:16:05.560 people in the legacy media
00:16:06.640 who held him up
00:16:08.020 and called him a leader.
00:16:09.420 They called him a leader
00:16:10.000 and they pretended
00:16:10.600 that his views
00:16:11.320 represented the views
00:16:12.280 of everyone.
00:16:12.680 Now, I will just say
00:16:13.380 I find Pat King to be repulsive.
00:16:15.340 I find his views to be awful.
00:16:16.740 He seems to be
00:16:17.820 a despicable racist person.
00:16:21.200 I've seen clips of him
00:16:22.260 making egregious statements.
00:16:23.620 I completely disagree
00:16:24.560 with everything he's saying
00:16:25.360 and I believe
00:16:26.000 that people in the convoy
00:16:27.340 felt the same way
00:16:28.360 that as soon as they got
00:16:29.080 to know this guy,
00:16:30.080 they said,
00:16:30.400 you need to stay away from us
00:16:31.380 because you're poisonous
00:16:32.240 and we don't agree with you.
00:16:33.860 Go away.
00:16:35.060 Regardless,
00:16:35.660 the media loved to hold him up
00:16:36.820 and call him a leader.
00:16:37.800 So we saw that again this week
00:16:38.960 because he apparently
00:16:40.040 was arrested
00:16:40.540 and he was in court.
00:16:41.700 Worth noting that the lawyers
00:16:42.900 that were representing
00:16:43.660 a bunch of the other
00:16:44.420 trucker convoy leaders
00:16:45.340 refused to represent this guy
00:16:46.840 because he's not part
00:16:47.820 of their group at all.
00:16:48.580 So this guy's on his own
00:16:50.180 in court.
00:16:51.080 Here's David Akin
00:16:51.820 of Global News saying,
00:16:53.520 it's been a long eight hours
00:16:54.480 for Pat King in court.
00:16:55.560 He's not able to speak.
00:16:56.560 He's the center of attention
00:16:57.480 but he's not in the way
00:16:58.680 he's accustomed to.
00:16:59.780 As lawyers argue his fate,
00:17:01.100 he's slumped forward,
00:17:02.360 elbows on knees,
00:17:03.320 head in his hands.
00:17:03.860 As if people care.
00:17:06.280 I don't understand.
00:17:07.400 They think he's his public figure
00:17:08.620 when everyone in the truck
00:17:09.540 of convoys tried
00:17:10.240 to distance himself from him.
00:17:11.860 Likewise,
00:17:12.360 the CBC had a story
00:17:13.180 calling him the convoy leader.
00:17:15.040 So it was this convoy leader,
00:17:15.940 Pat King,
00:17:16.440 to hear bail decision Friday
00:17:18.200 as a woman puts up 50K
00:17:19.740 in support
00:17:20.440 and they quote,
00:17:21.420 of course,
00:17:21.800 the Canadian Anti-Hate Network,
00:17:23.980 which should be called
00:17:24.720 the Anti-Hate Hoax Network
00:17:25.920 because they have become infamous
00:17:28.360 for pushing hate hoaxes.
00:17:30.380 Regardless,
00:17:30.820 it says we've tuned in
00:17:32.780 for Pat King's bail hearing
00:17:34.540 this morning
00:17:35.060 so you don't have to
00:17:36.200 and we'll be providing
00:17:37.000 updates accordingly.
00:17:38.820 Harrison,
00:17:39.380 what's your take
00:17:40.340 on this individual,
00:17:41.220 Pat King,
00:17:41.740 and why do you think
00:17:42.340 the media are so obsessed
00:17:43.040 with him?
00:17:44.300 Well,
00:17:44.680 I think it's important
00:17:46.500 to note, Candice,
00:17:47.340 that as you said,
00:17:48.440 this was a decentralized operation
00:17:50.160 and there were a couple
00:17:52.000 of different groups
00:17:53.140 with some followings
00:17:54.100 that were kind of
00:17:55.400 taking the lead
00:17:56.160 on the organizing
00:17:57.060 of the truck movement itself.
00:17:58.580 One of those groups
00:17:59.860 had listed Pat King
00:18:01.020 amongst a list
00:18:02.060 of many other people
00:18:03.620 who had a truck
00:18:06.260 and had some responsibility
00:18:08.560 per province.
00:18:10.520 So the media
00:18:11.000 immediately picked that up
00:18:12.180 and they listed him
00:18:12.860 as an Alberta captain.
00:18:14.720 So the media picked that up
00:18:15.640 and said that he was the leader
00:18:17.900 of this entire operation
00:18:19.120 knowing that
00:18:19.680 that wasn't the case.
00:18:21.320 Now,
00:18:21.620 I had the opportunity
00:18:22.300 to join a press conference
00:18:24.420 held by the organizers
00:18:25.760 including Tamara Litch,
00:18:27.500 Ben Dichter,
00:18:28.580 some of the other organizers
00:18:29.840 including Keith Wilson,
00:18:30.920 their lawyer.
00:18:31.760 In that press conference,
00:18:33.100 they explicitly stated
00:18:34.400 that Pat King
00:18:35.480 was not an organizer
00:18:36.560 of the event.
00:18:37.520 He was not a part
00:18:38.260 of their official,
00:18:39.480 the official organization
00:18:40.700 that had,
00:18:41.720 that were the leaders
00:18:42.940 of this group.
00:18:43.920 But that didn't matter
00:18:44.600 for the media
00:18:45.120 because it was an easy
00:18:46.220 target for them.
00:18:47.060 He was an easy figure
00:18:48.280 to latch onto
00:18:49.320 because he had these,
00:18:50.560 he had these posts
00:18:51.840 that he put up
00:18:52.560 on social media
00:18:53.400 that live on,
00:18:55.260 of course,
00:18:55.640 and the media
00:18:56.800 were able to take those
00:18:57.760 and use it to smear
00:18:58.600 the entire group.
00:18:59.500 So,
00:19:00.000 I think it's important
00:19:00.900 to note that
00:19:01.620 even when the organizers
00:19:03.600 of the event
00:19:04.160 distanced themselves
00:19:05.500 clearly
00:19:06.280 from this individual,
00:19:08.240 that doesn't matter
00:19:08.760 to the media.
00:19:09.620 They're not going
00:19:09.980 to take that
00:19:10.360 as any legitimate word.
00:19:12.600 They're just going
00:19:12.960 to believe
00:19:13.300 what they want to believe
00:19:14.120 and push
00:19:14.780 what they want to push.
00:19:15.680 So,
00:19:16.160 it's disappointing
00:19:17.140 that this individual
00:19:18.120 has tarnished this group
00:19:20.580 and that was clear
00:19:21.660 that the organizers
00:19:22.280 of this event
00:19:22.740 knew that was going
00:19:23.620 to happen,
00:19:24.380 knew this person
00:19:25.220 was going to be
00:19:26.120 a target for the media
00:19:27.760 and they tried their best
00:19:28.740 but they weren't able
00:19:30.340 to defeat the narrative
00:19:32.120 being peddled
00:19:32.680 by the legacy media
00:19:33.440 on this one.
00:19:34.360 Well,
00:19:34.420 they just insist
00:19:35.240 on the fact
00:19:35.680 that this guy's leader
00:19:36.280 even though everyone
00:19:37.160 says obviously he's not.
00:19:38.600 I think it's a good lesson
00:19:39.680 for conservatives,
00:19:40.680 however,
00:19:41.200 because,
00:19:41.820 look,
00:19:42.200 there are people
00:19:43.200 out there
00:19:43.720 who have horrible views
00:19:45.620 who are despicable racists
00:19:47.120 and it's important
00:19:48.560 to police your own
00:19:49.340 and to make sure
00:19:50.040 that these people
00:19:50.660 aren't able
00:19:51.380 to latch onto your movement,
00:19:52.420 aren't able
00:19:52.840 to ride your coattails
00:19:53.900 in order to promote
00:19:55.400 their own despicable worldview
00:19:58.020 and it's so important
00:19:59.640 to loudly
00:20:00.620 and clearly condemn
00:20:02.560 people like that
00:20:03.580 who wave Confederate flags
00:20:04.780 and who talk about race
00:20:06.440 in that way
00:20:07.520 that those people
00:20:09.020 are just simply not welcome
00:20:09.860 and if you start
00:20:10.340 talking about that stuff
00:20:11.100 you're going to get removed
00:20:12.440 and basically just
00:20:13.860 excommunicated
00:20:14.620 by the community.
00:20:15.660 I like to see conservatives
00:20:16.240 do that more strongly
00:20:17.700 and of course
00:20:18.460 when it comes to the media
00:20:20.040 they're just
00:20:20.500 the worst of the worst actors,
00:20:21.820 such bad faith,
00:20:22.560 pretending again
00:20:23.560 that somehow
00:20:23.940 this individual
00:20:25.120 speaks for everyone
00:20:25.900 is just so,
00:20:27.060 such bad faith
00:20:28.360 and exactly
00:20:29.140 what we've come to expect
00:20:30.620 from the legacy media.
00:20:31.780 Harrison,
00:20:32.060 well there's one more story
00:20:32.840 I wanted to pick up on
00:20:33.600 but this came out last Friday
00:20:34.800 and we didn't cover it
00:20:35.620 on Fake News Friday
00:20:36.320 but look,
00:20:37.700 Andrew Coyne
00:20:38.780 who is a columnist
00:20:40.360 over at the Globe and Mail
00:20:41.340 he's sort of,
00:20:42.300 he's an individual
00:20:43.540 who goes on CBC
00:20:44.620 and talks,
00:20:45.420 he's sort of the
00:20:46.300 quintessential
00:20:47.340 Canadian
00:20:48.120 Laurentian elite.
00:20:49.340 actually he became
00:20:50.980 infamous during this
00:20:51.880 protest because
00:20:53.140 he referred to
00:20:53.680 the truckers
00:20:54.180 as a group
00:20:54.960 of antisocial
00:20:56.060 yobs.
00:20:56.820 Let's play that clip,
00:20:57.700 we haven't played
00:20:58.060 that clip on the show
00:20:58.800 before so this is
00:20:59.860 Andrew Coyne
00:21:00.500 just so you get an idea
00:21:01.260 who we're going to be
00:21:01.960 talking about next year.
00:21:03.280 In many cases
00:21:03.640 they're not even
00:21:04.120 truckers at all,
00:21:05.520 they're basically
00:21:06.300 a bunch of
00:21:07.240 you know
00:21:08.340 antisocial yobs
00:21:10.000 with delusions
00:21:11.560 of grandeur,
00:21:12.860 a persecution complex
00:21:14.100 and too much time
00:21:14.860 on their hands.
00:21:15.420 So a group
00:21:16.520 of antisocial
00:21:17.180 yobs
00:21:17.600 with delusions
00:21:18.400 of grandeur
00:21:19.120 and a persecution
00:21:19.840 complex,
00:21:20.760 that's what he thinks
00:21:21.660 about working class
00:21:22.660 Canadians.
00:21:23.540 Well on the day
00:21:24.360 that Justin Trudeau
00:21:25.300 enacted the emergency
00:21:26.900 act,
00:21:27.120 the day that he
00:21:27.780 unleashed it
00:21:29.680 and the police
00:21:30.320 were storming Ottawa
00:21:31.380 and militarized the city
00:21:32.540 and were moving in
00:21:33.600 to remove the
00:21:34.540 peaceful unarmed
00:21:35.320 protests,
00:21:36.340 Andrew Coyne
00:21:36.720 who's a political
00:21:37.180 affairs columnist,
00:21:38.640 you know you'd think
00:21:39.380 at a moment like that
00:21:40.560 you know watching
00:21:41.180 the police move in
00:21:42.240 on a group of
00:21:42.980 peaceful protesters,
00:21:44.240 watching the prime
00:21:45.020 minister use an
00:21:46.000 unprecedented power
00:21:47.020 grab in the
00:21:47.860 emergencies act,
00:21:48.580 never been used
00:21:49.080 before,
00:21:49.720 hearing news of
00:21:50.480 bank accounts
00:21:50.960 being frozen,
00:21:51.560 watching police
00:21:52.020 brutality,
00:21:52.660 you would think
00:21:53.100 at that moment
00:21:53.680 a political affairs
00:21:54.660 columnist would
00:21:55.460 choose to write
00:21:56.280 a column on
00:21:57.080 the actor that's
00:21:58.760 leading this whole
00:21:59.400 thing,
00:21:59.580 the person who's
00:22:00.200 causing the chaos
00:22:01.060 which was Justin
00:22:01.900 Trudeau,
00:22:02.380 talking about why
00:22:03.340 he enacted the
00:22:04.000 emergency act,
00:22:04.640 talking about
00:22:05.040 you know his
00:22:06.180 position as leader
00:22:07.540 of the party,
00:22:08.280 the liberal party
00:22:08.820 leading the country,
00:22:10.080 how he mishandled
00:22:10.900 it,
00:22:11.240 you know there's
00:22:11.740 so many things
00:22:12.160 you would expect
00:22:12.700 a political affairs
00:22:13.460 columnist to
00:22:14.840 focus in on when
00:22:16.000 it comes to the
00:22:16.540 person leading the
00:22:17.440 action.
00:22:18.340 Instead,
00:22:18.860 Andrew Coyne
00:22:20.020 shifted his focus
00:22:21.140 and decided to
00:22:22.080 write a column
00:22:22.660 demonizing conservatives
00:22:23.680 so he wrote a
00:22:24.740 column that came
00:22:25.240 out on February
00:22:26.100 18th saying
00:22:26.940 how did conservatives
00:22:28.200 become so attracted
00:22:29.560 to extremism?
00:22:31.120 So I'm going to
00:22:31.360 read a little bit
00:22:31.860 here,
00:22:32.700 Harrison,
00:22:33.000 I'll let you
00:22:33.300 react.
00:22:33.800 So he writes
00:22:34.980 this,
00:22:35.580 conservatives who
00:22:36.500 were once
00:22:36.900 considered part of
00:22:37.760 the mainstream,
00:22:39.040 so first of all
00:22:39.720 he's saying the
00:22:40.180 conservatives aren't
00:22:40.620 mainstream anymore,
00:22:41.560 okay buddy,
00:22:42.460 conservatives who
00:22:43.220 were once part of
00:22:44.360 the mainstream are
00:22:45.360 spiraling down the
00:22:46.240 same arc traced by
00:22:47.620 Mr. Maxim
00:22:48.680 Bernier,
00:22:49.020 leader of the
00:22:49.300 PPC party and
00:22:50.040 others for three
00:22:51.040 weeks with the
00:22:51.600 country's capital
00:22:52.240 held hostage.
00:22:54.120 The party's former
00:22:55.040 leader Andrew
00:22:55.580 Scheer,
00:22:55.900 his interim leader
00:22:56.540 Candace Bergen
00:22:57.180 and his probable
00:22:57.880 future leader
00:22:58.520 Pierre Polyev have
00:22:59.440 all openly sided
00:23:00.560 with the hostage
00:23:01.680 takers,
00:23:02.740 their rhetoric
00:23:03.260 indistinguishable
00:23:04.420 from Maxim
00:23:05.740 Bernier.
00:23:06.980 Okay,
00:23:07.420 what do you think
00:23:07.800 about that,
00:23:08.300 Harrison?
00:23:09.160 Well,
00:23:09.380 there's quite a lot
00:23:10.360 to get into.
00:23:11.120 I mean,
00:23:11.380 the hostage takers,
00:23:12.740 as Andrew Coyne
00:23:13.280 calls them,
00:23:13.840 who are armed
00:23:14.340 with bouncy
00:23:14.980 castles and
00:23:15.680 hot tubs
00:23:16.360 and food
00:23:18.120 really must have
00:23:19.580 scared Andrew
00:23:20.520 quite a lot.
00:23:21.480 Now,
00:23:21.920 here's the thing
00:23:22.480 that I really
00:23:24.180 don't understand.
00:23:26.040 The conservatives,
00:23:27.560 the mainstream
00:23:28.060 conservatives who
00:23:28.860 he calls not
00:23:29.760 mainstream,
00:23:30.460 like Pierre Polyev
00:23:31.440 and Andrew Scheer
00:23:33.020 and Candace Bergen,
00:23:34.140 all they were doing
00:23:35.220 was taking a very
00:23:36.380 measured defense
00:23:37.520 of Canadians'
00:23:38.240 peaceful right
00:23:39.100 to protest
00:23:39.600 because they have
00:23:40.300 the ability
00:23:40.800 to see past
00:23:41.700 the politics.
00:23:42.900 They know full
00:23:43.500 well that once
00:23:44.920 the Emergencies Act
00:23:46.000 has been invoked
00:23:47.000 on a peaceful
00:23:47.740 protest like this,
00:23:48.960 there's very little
00:23:49.600 stopping it from
00:23:50.400 being invoked
00:23:50.940 on other people's
00:23:51.900 right to protest.
00:23:53.220 And unlike Andrew
00:23:54.140 Coyne,
00:23:55.000 these conservative
00:23:55.780 leaders were taking
00:23:57.240 a very measured
00:23:58.120 response.
00:23:58.800 They weren't
00:23:59.140 freaking out.
00:24:00.460 They weren't,
00:24:01.100 you know,
00:24:01.620 writing crazy posts
00:24:02.840 on Twitter.
00:24:03.500 All they were doing
00:24:04.340 was basically saying
00:24:05.480 we defend the right
00:24:07.140 for truckers to have
00:24:08.020 their right to protest
00:24:08.840 as we do for everyone
00:24:10.080 else in this country
00:24:10.700 to do that.
00:24:11.740 So I just think
00:24:13.180 it's quite dangerous
00:24:15.100 to see the shift
00:24:17.000 happening where
00:24:17.980 even the ability
00:24:19.400 for mainstream
00:24:20.380 politicians to defend
00:24:21.600 the rights of
00:24:22.280 working class people,
00:24:23.980 defend their right
00:24:24.840 to protest,
00:24:25.620 that is seen as extreme.
00:24:27.400 That's a bad direction
00:24:28.580 we're heading in
00:24:29.080 if that's where
00:24:29.540 the so-called elite
00:24:30.600 are now siding.
00:24:32.820 Well,
00:24:33.100 it's just like,
00:24:33.760 you know,
00:24:34.520 the perspective
00:24:35.200 of a progressive
00:24:36.200 who doesn't think
00:24:37.480 that the conservative
00:24:37.900 party should exist,
00:24:38.700 doesn't think the conservatives
00:24:39.540 should have a political
00:24:40.300 platform,
00:24:41.160 and thinks that the
00:24:41.920 political conservative
00:24:43.380 party should basically
00:24:44.240 be a party of like
00:24:45.140 red Tories
00:24:45.660 who have sensible
00:24:46.900 progressive values
00:24:48.240 and maybe care a little
00:24:49.500 bit more about
00:24:50.260 balanced budgets
00:24:50.960 or something like that.
00:24:51.620 That's sort of
00:24:52.400 where he's coming from
00:24:53.600 and this idea that
00:24:54.600 like how dare
00:24:55.420 these conservative
00:24:56.160 politicians
00:24:56.660 want to listen
00:24:58.820 to the truckers.
00:25:00.080 Like,
00:25:00.340 I was watching
00:25:02.200 the conservatives.
00:25:02.760 I think that they
00:25:03.580 were very measured.
00:25:04.660 I don't think that
00:25:05.100 they defended the truckers
00:25:06.120 in as much as I
00:25:08.000 would have liked
00:25:08.460 to see them do.
00:25:09.200 I don't think that
00:25:09.620 they truly represented
00:25:11.820 them.
00:25:12.380 However,
00:25:12.820 what they were saying
00:25:13.520 was very moderate,
00:25:14.620 very moderate,
00:25:15.340 saying,
00:25:15.860 these people have
00:25:16.160 the right to protest.
00:25:17.320 We should hear them out.
00:25:19.200 That's basically,
00:25:19.880 they condemned
00:25:20.380 illegal blockades
00:25:21.260 and they sided
00:25:22.560 with law and order.
00:25:24.620 You know,
00:25:24.780 compare that to
00:25:25.240 Maxime Bernier
00:25:25.840 who was much more,
00:25:27.580 you know,
00:25:28.740 colorful in his language,
00:25:30.100 much more likely
00:25:30.780 to, you know,
00:25:32.280 use hyperbole
00:25:33.040 in describing
00:25:33.480 what Justin Trudeau
00:25:34.180 was doing.
00:25:34.560 I didn't see any
00:25:35.120 of that from
00:25:35.540 those conservative
00:25:35.980 politicians.
00:25:36.520 So Andrew Coyne
00:25:36.940 is just wrong
00:25:37.480 on the facts
00:25:38.020 on that one.
00:25:38.520 Let's continue here.
00:25:39.440 Oh,
00:25:39.600 because he takes
00:25:40.600 a shot at journalists
00:25:41.700 like you and I,
00:25:42.460 Harrison,
00:25:42.740 here at True North.
00:25:43.560 So interesting.
00:25:44.840 Now let's talk about
00:25:45.660 what Andrew Coyne
00:25:46.720 thinks about the media.
00:25:47.720 So he says,
00:25:48.140 right-wing opinion
00:25:49.600 formerly fragmented
00:25:50.720 now presents itself
00:25:51.840 of something
00:25:52.320 of a continuum
00:25:53.040 running all the way
00:25:54.100 from Rebel News
00:25:54.820 through True North
00:25:55.540 to the Sun newspaper chain
00:25:56.720 and alas,
00:25:57.320 the National Post.
00:25:58.340 People you'd have thought
00:25:59.200 would be able
00:26:00.200 to spot a grift
00:26:01.060 a mile away
00:26:01.740 instead have been
00:26:02.920 enthralled by it
00:26:03.780 as if the half-witted
00:26:05.220 bros in the convoy
00:26:06.740 really were fighting
00:26:07.680 for freedom
00:26:08.160 and not providing cover
00:26:09.180 for their anarcho-racist leaders.
00:26:10.680 So Andrew Coyne
00:26:11.420 falls into the same trap
00:26:12.500 as David Akin
00:26:13.620 and other journalists
00:26:14.760 pretending that this was,
00:26:16.100 again,
00:26:16.200 the top-down movement
00:26:19.580 where the leaders
00:26:20.780 of the convoy,
00:26:21.620 they weren't actually
00:26:22.220 working-class people
00:26:22.920 fighting for their
00:26:23.420 freedom, Harrison.
00:26:24.280 They were actually
00:26:25.040 anarcho-racists
00:26:26.400 who were, what,
00:26:27.000 trying to overthrow
00:26:27.680 the government, I guess.
00:26:28.900 And apparently,
00:26:29.880 the whole thing
00:26:30.460 was a grift from day one
00:26:31.560 and people like you
00:26:32.140 and I should have been
00:26:32.840 smart enough
00:26:33.800 to see through
00:26:34.920 what he calls
00:26:35.760 the half-witted bros
00:26:37.080 in the convoy.
00:26:37.680 As if calling them
00:26:38.280 antisocial yabs
00:26:39.200 wasn't bad enough.
00:26:39.880 Now he's calling them
00:26:40.500 half-witted bros.
00:26:41.880 So, again,
00:26:42.600 this is Andrew Coyne
00:26:43.820 who is a very privileged elite
00:26:45.780 who sees himself
00:26:47.380 as being very,
00:26:48.200 very insightful
00:26:48.840 and intelligent,
00:26:50.020 looking down his nose
00:26:51.120 and scoffing
00:26:52.520 at the intelligence
00:26:53.160 of the truckers.
00:26:54.600 That's great.
00:26:55.900 That's very good
00:26:57.900 for class relations
00:26:58.740 in Canada.
00:26:59.400 And he's just bitter
00:27:00.260 about the idea
00:27:01.260 that there's this
00:27:02.240 sort of new continuum
00:27:03.020 of right-wing
00:27:04.260 conservative media.
00:27:05.560 So, he much prefers
00:27:07.080 that the rebel
00:27:07.500 be like isolated
00:27:08.440 and far away,
00:27:10.440 removed from
00:27:11.280 the conservative party.
00:27:12.780 Whereas now he sees
00:27:13.660 this continuum.
00:27:14.380 I'm flattered by this
00:27:15.260 that he says,
00:27:16.140 look, there's the rebel,
00:27:17.400 then there's True North.
00:27:18.420 You know,
00:27:18.660 the rebel does its own thing
00:27:20.540 and it's not for everyone.
00:27:22.040 It's its own flavor.
00:27:23.960 Here at True North,
00:27:24.980 we're a little different.
00:27:26.100 We have our own flavor.
00:27:27.440 And then same with
00:27:28.400 over to the Sun newspapers
00:27:30.200 and Post Media.
00:27:31.400 Those two are kind
00:27:32.180 of blurring together.
00:27:32.740 Yeah, I think that's fair
00:27:35.020 to say that there's
00:27:35.760 sort of different types
00:27:37.100 of conservative news outlets.
00:27:38.460 We all have our own flavor
00:27:39.680 and we're all influenced,
00:27:41.320 again, by our own worldview
00:27:42.680 and our own editorial position.
00:27:44.620 Post Media takes money
00:27:45.440 from the Trudeau government.
00:27:46.780 We do not.
00:27:48.020 And so, you know,
00:27:49.200 what he's really angry
00:27:50.380 about, Harrison,
00:27:51.460 is something that I'm
00:27:52.280 really proud of.
00:27:53.020 The fact that independent media
00:27:54.180 like the rebel,
00:27:55.380 Ezra Levant,
00:27:56.160 head of the rebel,
00:27:57.340 posted a couple days ago
00:27:58.220 that his channel
00:27:58.960 has had over 100 million views
00:28:01.280 in the last month.
00:28:02.160 So many people
00:28:03.000 are going to rebel.
00:28:03.760 They've had a lot of journalists
00:28:05.380 and reporters on the ground
00:28:06.580 filming and covering things
00:28:08.140 that legacy media
00:28:08.720 were just unable to cover.
00:28:10.240 Here at True North,
00:28:10.960 we've had similarly
00:28:11.880 very, very good numbers,
00:28:13.040 not quite that high,
00:28:13.880 but still I'd wager
00:28:14.720 that more people
00:28:15.720 are reading True North
00:28:16.700 than a lot of those
00:28:17.640 post-media newspapers.
00:28:19.660 And it's great
00:28:20.620 that people are getting
00:28:21.180 their news from other sources
00:28:22.460 and that if you are conservative,
00:28:24.260 you don't have to be stuck
00:28:25.480 with the National Post,
00:28:27.120 which, again,
00:28:27.720 is a big corporation
00:28:28.700 that takes money
00:28:30.000 from the Trudeau government
00:28:31.140 and isn't always necessarily
00:28:32.540 going to take the side
00:28:33.520 of conservatism,
00:28:34.820 especially when it's more
00:28:36.120 of a populist
00:28:37.100 or a Western Canadian movement.
00:28:39.740 And so the thing
00:28:40.360 that Andrew Quinn
00:28:41.200 is most upset about,
00:28:42.540 to me,
00:28:43.560 is a great sign
00:28:44.600 for the conservative movement
00:28:46.400 that we have more outlets,
00:28:47.460 more voices,
00:28:48.400 more opinions being expressed.
00:28:50.120 What's your take on that?
00:28:51.140 Well, I think one thing
00:28:52.600 to note is that
00:28:53.800 at True North,
00:28:55.060 we don't call Canadians
00:28:56.440 half-witted bros
00:28:58.720 and anti-social yobs.
00:29:00.380 Most of those Canadians,
00:29:02.320 we don't call Canadians
00:29:03.240 that read our work that,
00:29:04.940 and we don't call Canadians
00:29:05.780 that don't read our work that.
00:29:07.420 We actually take,
00:29:08.320 we have a sense of respect
00:29:09.900 for Canadians exercising
00:29:11.500 their rights to protest.
00:29:14.340 And clearly,
00:29:15.160 this is really upsetting
00:29:16.380 Andrew Coyne.
00:29:17.520 And no wonder,
00:29:18.300 I mean,
00:29:18.520 luckily,
00:29:18.820 at my role,
00:29:19.720 I have the ability
00:29:20.200 to see the data,
00:29:21.760 the back end,
00:29:22.760 the numbers on our site,
00:29:23.920 and it's no surprise
00:29:25.360 that our growth
00:29:26.160 is catching the attention
00:29:27.200 of these people
00:29:28.440 who work for
00:29:29.300 sinking ship
00:29:30.340 legacy media outlets.
00:29:32.160 It is a threat
00:29:32.940 to their dominant control
00:29:36.300 over the media.
00:29:37.120 We are on the map now.
00:29:38.580 We have seen incredible growth
00:29:41.180 since this convoy began,
00:29:42.560 and it's because
00:29:43.180 Canadians are desperate
00:29:44.340 for real coverage.
00:29:45.440 That isn't going to demonize them
00:29:46.920 at every turn.
00:29:47.760 And I think that that's just,
00:29:49.760 that's just the way
00:29:51.020 this is all heading.
00:29:52.420 Globe and Mail,
00:29:53.600 the National Post,
00:29:55.080 and some of these
00:29:56.340 post-media newspapers
00:29:57.340 aren't appealing to Canadians
00:29:58.940 because they've taken
00:30:00.140 this really nasty position
00:30:02.820 on everyday Canadians
00:30:05.020 who just want to,
00:30:05.600 who just want to have
00:30:06.600 their right to protest,
00:30:07.440 have their voice heard,
00:30:08.320 and do it in a,
00:30:09.620 in frankly,
00:30:10.180 a fun way
00:30:11.100 with bouncy castles
00:30:12.180 and hot tubs.
00:30:12.740 These are not
00:30:13.140 half-witted
00:30:14.140 anti-social yobs.
00:30:16.020 And Andrew Coyne,
00:30:17.100 if you've looked
00:30:17.440 at any of his coverage,
00:30:18.320 every time he does
00:30:18.920 a CBC hit,
00:30:19.940 he's doing it
00:30:20.540 from his house.
00:30:21.760 So clearly,
00:30:22.360 he's cooped up in his house,
00:30:24.020 not talking to any
00:30:24.840 of these people
00:30:25.420 who he seems to think
00:30:27.440 are half-wits,
00:30:29.260 and is just,
00:30:30.920 and is just firing shots
00:30:32.100 from his basement
00:30:32.740 at these Canadians.
00:30:34.380 It is,
00:30:35.080 it's just disappointing
00:30:36.140 to see,
00:30:36.720 but clearly,
00:30:38.180 this whole convoy
00:30:39.220 has really,
00:30:40.100 really broken
00:30:40.800 Andrew Coyne's spirit.
00:30:42.820 Totally.
00:30:43.220 I want to read
00:30:43.880 one more part of it
00:30:44.860 because it's so interesting.
00:30:46.420 So,
00:30:46.720 yeah,
00:30:47.160 again,
00:30:47.460 you have this elitist,
00:30:48.500 Laurentian elite guy
00:30:49.280 sitting from his home.
00:30:50.300 He appears in the Globe and Mail
00:30:51.520 and on the CBC,
00:30:53.340 and he's raging against
00:30:55.140 what he calls
00:30:55.540 a phony class war.
00:30:56.580 So he says,
00:30:57.060 there's also a whiff
00:30:58.000 of a class war in the air,
00:30:59.220 a phony class war,
00:31:00.420 but there you are.
00:31:01.160 Conservative commentators
00:31:01.980 have persuaded themselves
00:31:02.880 or at any rate
00:31:03.540 would like to persuade others
00:31:05.080 of the blockade participants
00:31:06.100 because some of them
00:31:06.840 brought trucks,
00:31:07.720 are genuine representatives
00:31:09.000 of truckers as a group,
00:31:10.300 or better yet,
00:31:10.920 the working class.
00:31:12.020 It's not remotely true.
00:31:13.260 Ninety percent of the working class
00:31:14.380 are fully vaccinated at work,
00:31:15.680 but it fits the populist
00:31:16.840 conservative ambition
00:31:17.720 of hiving off
00:31:18.760 working class voters
00:31:19.480 from the left
00:31:20.540 whom they accuse
00:31:21.220 of being more concerned
00:31:22.420 with racial and sexual identity
00:31:23.780 politics than traditional
00:31:25.300 working class issues.
00:31:26.180 A lot to unpack there.
00:31:27.100 First of all,
00:31:27.960 the idea that
00:31:29.000 if you're fully vaccinated,
00:31:30.220 that you're not part
00:31:30.860 of the trucker convoy
00:31:31.680 is a lie.
00:31:32.440 It's wrong.
00:31:33.260 It's objectively wrong.
00:31:34.540 If you spent any time,
00:31:35.940 as you did, Harrison,
00:31:36.800 going and interviewing
00:31:37.340 these truckers
00:31:37.920 or as I did,
00:31:38.440 watching a lot,
00:31:39.060 a lot of interviews,
00:31:39.740 combing through a lot of footage,
00:31:40.540 you will learn
00:31:41.340 that a lot of the truckers
00:31:42.480 were in fact fully vaccinated.
00:31:44.060 The reason that they were there
00:31:44.940 is because they want
00:31:45.900 their freedoms back.
00:31:46.580 They don't want to live
00:31:47.540 in a two-tiered society.
00:31:48.560 They don't like the mandates.
00:31:49.740 They don't like the idea
00:31:50.320 that people are being fired
00:31:51.200 from their jobs.
00:31:52.000 It was a point of principle, okay?
00:31:54.080 So the idea that
00:31:54.920 just because someone
00:31:55.640 is vaccinated,
00:31:56.500 therefore they can't be part
00:31:57.940 of the convoy
00:31:58.620 in the movement
00:31:59.040 is just false.
00:32:00.160 It's false.
00:32:00.680 It's wrong.
00:32:01.180 If he paid attention
00:32:01.960 to what people are actually saying,
00:32:03.300 he would understand that.
00:32:04.380 And I understand as well,
00:32:05.380 look, I'm fully vaccinated
00:32:06.460 and I vehemently oppose
00:32:08.360 vaccine mandates.
00:32:09.180 I think it is terrible for society
00:32:10.760 and bad for the future
00:32:11.900 of our country.
00:32:12.620 So it's not a contradiction.
00:32:14.260 And just by simply saying
00:32:15.160 that someone's vaccinated,
00:32:16.320 therefore they're not part
00:32:17.360 of this group,
00:32:17.980 is wrong on the surface.
00:32:19.600 The broader point
00:32:20.380 that he's making here
00:32:21.040 that it's a phony class war.
00:32:22.640 Look, the idea that
00:32:23.860 a bunch of people
00:32:24.620 who work in the real world,
00:32:25.960 who don't have the luxury
00:32:26.640 to sit on Zoom all day,
00:32:27.940 to work from their home,
00:32:29.380 to be, you know,
00:32:30.540 hived off from society
00:32:32.400 because they can live
00:32:33.180 in this virtual world.
00:32:34.180 The people who actually
00:32:34.920 have to get up every morning,
00:32:36.240 get dressed,
00:32:36.840 go out and, you know,
00:32:38.260 face the world,
00:32:39.500 COVID or not,
00:32:40.440 regardless of the weather,
00:32:41.720 these are the people
00:32:42.420 who have had enough.
00:32:43.760 It very, very much
00:32:44.820 is a class distinction.
00:32:46.200 And it's so obvious
00:32:47.220 that it's not just
00:32:48.180 conservative commentators
00:32:49.300 who are making this point.
00:32:50.380 I read a piece about it
00:32:51.180 in the New York Times yesterday.
00:32:52.760 The exact same thing.
00:32:53.700 So many people are observing
00:32:54.900 that this is a class distinction.
00:32:56.820 In fact,
00:32:57.520 Andrew Quinn wrote
00:32:58.000 this piece last week.
00:32:59.240 Later in the week,
00:33:00.040 he was on CBC
00:33:00.840 sort of admitting
00:33:01.480 that it actually was
00:33:02.340 a class distinction.
00:33:03.160 So maybe he's come around
00:33:04.060 on this point.
00:33:04.620 But here,
00:33:05.580 just the points
00:33:06.120 that he's making
00:33:06.680 are so wrong,
00:33:08.680 so out of touch.
00:33:10.340 And to me,
00:33:10.740 again,
00:33:10.980 just shows this sort of
00:33:11.760 like bitter angriness
00:33:13.480 that he has,
00:33:14.140 that he's sort of losing.
00:33:15.080 He's losing his grip.
00:33:16.340 He's losing his grip of power
00:33:18.940 because people are no longer
00:33:20.580 looking to him
00:33:21.360 as sort of the intellectual
00:33:23.860 thought leader for conservatives.
00:33:25.820 That's not who he is anymore.
00:33:26.980 And he's so out of touch
00:33:27.900 with the grassroots base
00:33:29.720 of the conservative party
00:33:30.620 that the conservatives,
00:33:31.840 they don't look to him.
00:33:33.020 They don't care
00:33:33.360 what he has to say.
00:33:34.300 He's in a position of power,
00:33:35.640 but he's losing that power
00:33:36.800 and he's angry
00:33:37.860 that that power is slipping away.
00:33:40.240 Yeah, the guy who says
00:33:41.540 that this isn't a class war
00:33:42.640 is the same guy
00:33:43.340 calling working class Canadians
00:33:45.580 half wits
00:33:46.740 and anti-social yobs.
00:33:48.660 I mean, how much,
00:33:49.220 how much more,
00:33:50.260 how much clearer can it get
00:33:51.520 the person from the CBC
00:33:53.440 and Globe and Mail
00:33:54.180 basically attacking
00:33:55.620 all of these people
00:33:57.200 and looking down on them
00:33:59.040 and saying,
00:33:59.540 oh, this is not a class war.
00:34:00.640 This is not a class divide.
00:34:02.320 Well, clearly it is.
00:34:04.180 And Andrew wouldn't know that
00:34:05.740 because he hasn't spent any time
00:34:06.800 talking with any of these people.
00:34:08.440 I wonder if he's even talked
00:34:09.800 to a trucker
00:34:10.440 in maybe in his whole life
00:34:12.340 because this kind of opinion
00:34:13.720 is from the same kind of person
00:34:15.960 that wouldn't be,
00:34:17.400 wouldn't even know a trucker
00:34:18.960 if they walked,
00:34:20.440 if they walked past him
00:34:21.220 on the street.
00:34:22.280 Oh, that's such a good point.
00:34:23.580 And to the earlier point
00:34:24.700 that somehow
00:34:25.320 this is a continuum
00:34:26.880 from Rebel to True North
00:34:28.500 to Sun Papers
00:34:29.260 all the way to National Post.
00:34:30.940 One of the people,
00:34:31.840 one of the journalists
00:34:32.660 who has been the strongest
00:34:33.900 proponent and advocate
00:34:35.580 for the working class
00:34:36.920 and the truckers
00:34:37.380 has been Rex Murphy
00:34:38.480 who writes for the National Post.
00:34:39.680 He's probably the most prominent writer
00:34:41.560 for the National Post.
00:34:42.680 And it's because he grew up
00:34:44.160 in a working class environment
00:34:45.180 and he still goes out of his way
00:34:46.860 to try to interact
00:34:47.980 with the working class
00:34:49.480 and people like truckers.
00:34:50.540 So there's quite a distinction
00:34:52.220 that you can see
00:34:52.840 between a person
00:34:54.160 who loves their country
00:34:55.000 and cares about getting to know them
00:34:56.320 and wants to hear
00:34:57.160 from different people
00:34:57.800 from different classes,
00:34:58.980 Rex Murphy,
00:34:59.880 and someone who's very isolated,
00:35:01.560 very insular,
00:35:02.660 very snobby,
00:35:03.760 and sort of telling everybody else
00:35:05.460 what to think.
00:35:06.280 And that is Andrew Coyne.
00:35:07.160 Well, it's no surprise, Harrison,
00:35:08.920 that this came out.
00:35:10.200 Polls show that trust
00:35:11.380 in the media
00:35:12.020 and the government
00:35:12.760 are at an all-time low.
00:35:14.460 So in 2022 so far,
00:35:16.180 only 35% of Canadians
00:35:17.940 say they trusted traditional media.
00:35:19.820 It's down from 38% last year.
00:35:21.060 My guess is that
00:35:22.020 it has plummeted even more
00:35:23.200 over the past weeks
00:35:24.120 seeing the way
00:35:25.120 that the media
00:35:26.200 has turned into
00:35:27.160 essentially propagandists
00:35:28.440 for the Trudeau government,
00:35:29.760 repeating their lies
00:35:30.880 that this was an occupation,
00:35:32.400 that these protesters
00:35:33.520 are extremists
00:35:34.560 and Nazis and racists.
00:35:36.100 And to so many people,
00:35:37.860 it's just clear as day
00:35:39.220 what the media is doing
00:35:40.440 and how out of touch
00:35:41.360 and untrustworthy they are.
00:35:43.500 Well, Harrison,
00:35:44.100 thank you so much
00:35:44.600 for joining Fake News Friday.
00:35:46.120 It's always fun
00:35:46.600 to have you on the show.
00:35:47.540 Thank you.
00:35:48.340 Yeah, it was great
00:35:48.700 to be on, Candice.
00:35:49.380 Thank you.
00:35:50.640 All right.
00:35:51.080 Thanks for tuning in.
00:35:51.940 I'm Candice Malcolm
00:35:52.460 and this is
00:35:53.060 The Candice Malcolm Show.