The Candice Malcolm Show - The moving COVID-19 goalposts in Quebec (Ft. Viva Frei)

00:00:00.000 Why does Quebec always seem to have the most heavy-handed lockdown measures, and yet at the

00:00:04.360 same time, their politicians always seem to have the highest approval ratings? What is going on

00:00:08.880 in La Belle Provence? I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:16.660 Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for tuning in. Now, from the outside, Quebec just seems like

00:00:21.040 a total madhouse. Every time there's a new fad or a new restriction, it seems like Quebec is

00:00:25.960 jumping to be the first to implement it. To me, the silliest thing, out of all the silly

00:00:30.040 restrictions that we've seen in COVID, the idea of a curfew, the idea that somehow at night,

00:00:34.760 COVID becomes more dangerous, and if you're out after a certain hour, you become more infectious,

00:00:39.000 it's just so silly, and it just shows the anti-scientific approach, and yet that's one

00:00:43.600 of the things that Quebec continues to do. So we don't really talk a lot about Quebec on the Candice

00:00:48.820 Malcolm Show and here at True North, and I want to try to rectify that and correct that, and so we're

00:00:53.100 going to do a complete focus today on what's going on in Quebec, as well as some of the broader

00:00:58.120 trends, and to do that, I am joined by someone who I am a big fan of, I've admired for a very, very long

00:01:03.380 time. I'm talking about David Freiheit, who runs the YouTube channel Viva Frei, and David is a, he was a

00:01:11.400 lawyer in Montreal from 2007 to 2018 before making the leap into YouTube, and he's now sort of a full-time

00:01:17.720 YouTuber, social media guy. So Viva or David, it's so great to have you on the show.

00:01:23.320 Thank you for having me. I'm still a member of the bar, so technically I have one file left,

00:01:27.480 and it's a trial coming up in 2023 that we started, the file started in 2015. So as mad as the world is,

00:01:34.820 the practice of litigation is a very long and tedious process.

00:01:38.700 Well, that's interesting. We can get into it, and before we do, I just want to hear a little bit,

00:01:44.300 you know, we've never had you on the show before. I've been a fan for a long time. I really got into

00:01:48.380 your YouTube videos. I think it was back during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, and you sort of broke

00:01:52.800 everything down in like a very logical, coherent, rational way. I really appreciate that. I love your

00:01:58.480 stuff. I also like how, you know, sometimes I see you doing YouTube videos in the car or with kids

00:02:04.220 running around, and it's such a great reflection of real life. So why don't you tell us a little bit

00:02:09.040 about yourself, and what made you take this jump from being, you know, a super serious lawyer into

00:02:15.240 doing something more fun and something more interactive, like becoming a YouTuber?

00:02:19.220 Well, it's funny. Going back to CEGEP, I was in Dawson College, studied film, studied creative arts,

00:02:24.980 fine arts, and then studied philosophy, but then you have to get a job, and you have to, you know,

00:02:29.640 go and integrate into real life. So I got a law degree and then practiced, but I've always loved that stuff.

00:02:34.340 And the practice of law, I never loved for the reason, you know, tedious, paper pushing,

00:02:40.380 soul crushing, when you win, you lose, when you lose, you lose. And so I kept on saying, you know,

00:02:45.400 if I don't like it more next year, I'll stop. If I don't like it more next year, I'll stop.

00:02:48.740 Then I had my first kid, and I walked out of the big firm, ended up starting my own boutique. It was a

00:02:55.020 solo practice turned into a boutique litigation, but seven years into that, still didn't like it. And on

00:03:00.860 the sideline, I was making videos, playing around on YouTube, playing around with GoPros,

00:03:05.880 and I discovered video, videography, you know, content creation. But I noticed every time I put

00:03:11.380 up a video about what it's like to be a lawyer, people got engaged, they liked that they said

00:03:14.780 more of this. And then it just happened. I mean, I did a breakdown of an Alex Jones deposition in

00:03:21.240 2018. And that really caused me to discover the niche. I don't like practicing law, but I'm

00:03:26.860 reasonably decent at understanding it and explaining it. Although I think I was good at practicing as

00:03:31.060 well. And then I just, the channel turned into that and it, you know, it went to where it is now,

00:03:35.600 which is, you know, breaking down the lawsuits and litigation of general stuff, but a lot of COVID

00:03:41.900 stuff for the last two years. The Brett Kavanaugh was interesting. That was back in the day

00:03:45.760 where I tried to remain neutral with my own personal opinion. And I still explained both

00:03:51.220 sides, but now I've become much more vocal in explaining which side I side with and which side

00:03:56.080 I believe in. Brett Kavanaugh, I remember at the time, I can understand both sides, even if I didn't

00:04:01.300 agree with both sides as much. I thought one side was definitely had a stronger argument than the

00:04:06.200 other. And now, you know, I think now it's time for people to get the facts and then also hear

00:04:11.980 opinions from people they either trust or do not trust, depending on how they view me.

00:04:17.540 It's funny how you describe the law profession, because my husband is also a, you know, he calls

00:04:22.580 himself a recovering or retired corporate lawyer. And he described it as the legal profession is like

00:04:28.180 a pie eating competition, where if you win, the prize is more pie, right? So it's just like a never

00:04:33.380 ending thing there. Oh, it's even more depressing than that. It's like, if you win, everybody's still

00:04:40.840 unhappy because they've paid the lawyer, however much it's taken, however many years. And when

00:04:45.220 you lose, they're even more unhappy. And it was at the point where like, I didn't even feel good

00:04:49.800 when I won. And I, sometimes I would win so devastatingly, I would still feel bad because

00:04:54.020 it involved crushing somebody else. So yeah, pie eating contest. I might pick something that I

00:04:58.340 don't like eating like a mayonnaise eating contest. Well, that was good. And I will admit. So when I

00:05:04.240 first came across your channel and it was during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, I kind of assumed that you

00:05:08.280 were on the left, just because I, you know, I made the assumption because you're a lawyer,

00:05:12.880 I find that most people in the legal profession tend to be liberals and that you're from Montreal.

00:05:16.860 It was like two strikes against you. So I just assumed, you know, this guy is really reasonable

00:05:20.580 and really fair because he's presenting both sides. And that's something that I find is totally absent

00:05:25.280 on the political left. And so it didn't, you know, when it sort of came out that you decided to run for

00:05:29.780 the PPC and your political persuasion became more evident, it's like, okay, no wonder he was being so

00:05:34.740 fair about both sides because it doesn't seem to be something that the left tends to do very well.

00:05:39.980 I want to ask you though, as, as a YouTuber, as someone who gauge on the social media side of

00:05:44.780 things and sort of new media, what is your view on the traditional media in Canada, in Quebec? You

00:05:51.100 know, we can see that the sort of legacy media fading away into relevancy and, you know, some of the

00:05:58.360 issues with, with, with just being untrusted, unfair and younger people not engaging at all. I wonder

00:06:03.980 what, what's your perspective on the future of the traditional media, legacy media, and how do you

00:06:10.080 see your role and the role of, of, of platforms like YouTube and people doing video blogs like you do

00:06:15.480 in, in changing the landscape?

00:06:17.800 I'll preface it. They're liars. And I, I don't think I ever fully appreciated it, or I don't think

00:06:23.220 they were as egregious, overt liars as they have become. And I don't know if it's because they've taken

00:06:28.140 so much federal money that they are now indebted to the hand that feeds them. Some people say they were

00:06:32.780 always liars, but I do remember once upon a time, W5 CTV doing investigative journalism, undercover

00:06:39.440 stuff, you know, secretly recorded video stuff to blow the lid off controversies. I remember that

00:06:45.360 in my life, 60 minutes used to do it. I don't know when they became such liars or if they were always

00:06:51.140 liars, but I just wasn't aware of it, but they're dishonest to the point where it can't be incompetence

00:06:56.700 and it can't be anything but malice or deliberate partisanship. When I discovered this was part of my, my red

00:07:04.680 pilling process. When I discovered that, you know, Trudeau effectively bought off the media with I think

00:07:11.420 it was $600 million in subsidies. When I found out that the CBC and Radio Canada are subsidized to the

00:07:17.740 tune of $1 billion a year by the federal government, it all started to make sense. But with the advent and

00:07:23.160 the explosion of independent media on YouTube, on Twitter, on social media platforms, it became even

00:07:28.980 more in your face. And it became even more like an existential fight for survival because even with

00:07:35.820 the billion dollar subsidies, they still can't compete. They still are losing traction. They're still

00:07:42.240 losing traffic and they're losing credibility. But I think it's gotten worse over time. Throw money

00:07:48.460 into the equation. It definitely gets worse. Throw their existence into the equation. You know, there's

00:07:52.920 the old expression, I forget who it was that said it, but when you fight corruption, corruption fights

00:07:56.880 back. And the more independent media gains credibility, pushes back and reveals the lies, the more what we

00:08:05.400 called legacy media or traditional media or mainstream media lashes out. But throw money into the equation

00:08:10.940 and it will fundamentally corrupt a relationship and it will fundamentally turn what is supposed to be

00:08:15.820 independent media into dependent media. And they're dependent on the government dollars that

00:08:20.120 they're supposed to be reporting on. So you don't need to be Nostradamus to know how that corrupts a

00:08:24.940 relationship. Well, absolutely. And we saw that we saw the interesting blog post come out from a

00:08:31.160 former CBC journalist that said just that, you know, that the powers that be in society, big corporations,

00:08:36.400 governments amassing power. The CBC doesn't ask them questions, doesn't isn't skeptical about them.

00:08:40.940 Well, of course not. That's that's who they owe their livelihood to. Instead, they're skeptical of,

00:08:45.200 you know, just regular everyday Canadians who don't hold the correct trendy left wing opinions,

00:08:49.920 right? For sure. And and you see the trend, but you also then see it reflected in legislation. I

00:08:54.900 forget if it's Bill C-10 or C-16, the one that wanted to regulate social media, internet, the way they

00:09:00.640 regulate television and radio. And you had, oh, that guy with the mustache, I forget his name now,

00:09:05.480 the minister of heritage, you know, coming out and saying, we're not going to regulate independent

00:09:10.560 accounts unless they're big, unless they make money off their accounts. Well, that's how you see the

00:09:15.420 political infiltration into the independent media, where they say, like, all of the subsidies,

00:09:20.300 all of the protection that the government has given the media, the scratching each other's back,

00:09:25.340 still losing ground. So what does the what do the politicians have to do? Come in and regulate

00:09:29.160 the the the wild west of the information landscape, the way they've regulated television and radio.

00:09:35.640 But it has, it's an evolution in process. And you see that the powers that be are going after where

00:09:41.240 the freedom is. And that's why it's important for maybe a separate discussion, but independent

00:09:46.280 content creators, important for them to fight back on this realm where you basically have the

00:09:51.600 government wanting to regulate and control the internet, the way they control television and radio.

00:09:55.660 And it's wild to see it just how they're all kind of working in lockstep together, you see social

00:10:02.040 media giants, completely silencing any dissenting opinions. And if anything, that just grows the

00:10:07.540 sort of intrigue and interest. I mean, you've seen this with the sort of vaccine skeptic movement

00:10:12.040 throughout the pandemic. It's like any side of the story that's just talking about, hey, hey,

00:10:16.860 what are some of the unintended consequences? What are some of the downsides about rushing out these,

00:10:20.580 these these vaccines? It's like the information just disappears and the people get de-platformed

00:10:26.000 and it kind of raises intrigue. Like, what, what, why are you silencing them? The more that they're

00:10:29.820 silenced, the more intrigued I am. And so they're kind of like doing the exact opposite of what they

00:10:34.620 intend to do.

00:10:35.920 It is known as the Streisand effect, but it's also just known as the, you know, eye-opening effect.

00:10:40.000 It's the red pill people are now seeing. At the time, back in the day when the vaccine was being

00:10:44.480 rolled out, if you suggested there were potential side effects, even side effects that are known for all

00:10:49.960 vaccines, all of anything that goes into your body can trigger a response. Even if you stated those,

00:10:54.620 you were de-platformed, suspended, banned. And then just today, CTV comes out with an article that

00:10:59.860 would have gotten you banned probably 12 hours ago, or certainly 12 months ago, that the vaccine is

00:11:05.560 interfering with women's menstrual cycles. Whereas had anybody said that a year ago,

00:11:09.740 they would have been banned, de-platformed, you know, de-personed, whatever. And so it is interesting.

00:11:15.200 On the one hand, it's the Streisand effect. But on the other hand, when people see the truth

00:11:18.180 finally come out, and they're like, whoa, the people they were going after a year ago were saying

00:11:22.220 the same things that the mainstream media is saying now, exactly the same thing with the origins of

00:11:27.260 COVID. It was a bannable offense to suggest that it originated man-made in a lab in Wuhan, China.

00:11:33.660 Bannable offense. And now it's become mainstream media headlines. So when people see this happen

00:11:40.020 in real time, it's eye-opening, it's awakening, but it also causes the powers to fight back even

00:11:44.940 harder to maintain control over their, they're, they're allowing others to access information

00:11:50.300 and knowledge. And that's, that's what the battle is over right now.

00:11:53.900 Absolutely. I couldn't have said it better myself. And we've seen it so many times. I mean,

00:11:57.400 it's like, you know, you're not allowed to put anything out there that promotes vaccine

00:12:01.220 skepticism. But then all of a sudden, the government pulls AstraZeneca because they say it's not safe.

00:12:05.760 They pull Johnson & Johnson because they say it's not safe. It's like, you know, you're giving us

00:12:09.920 reason to be skeptical. Well, David, sorry, I keep calling you Viva. But David, if you, if I wanted

00:12:15.600 to bring you on today to really talk about Quebec, because sort of from an outsider's perspective,

00:12:19.980 there's two things that happen. One, it seems like you guys always have the most heavy handed

00:12:23.080 restrictions. And then second, it seems like whatever's happening in Quebec eventually happens

00:12:27.320 in the rest of the country. So, you know, you guys had to lock down over the holidays. And then,

00:12:30.960 you know, as soon as a few weeks later, it was like Ontario, BC, Manitoba, everyone followed suit.

00:12:35.720 So you live in Quebec, you live through some of the most severe restrictions. Why is it that the

00:12:41.260 government in Quebec seems to be so heavy handed about COVID? And why do people put up with it?

00:12:46.420 I cannot answer the question. Well, let me, I can answer the question of why people put up with it,

00:12:50.780 but it presupposes or it causes me or forces me to divine intention. I think people are terrified on

00:12:58.260 the one hand, they have been bombarded with, I'm going to call it fake news, fear porn for the last

00:13:03.640 two years to the point where they are now so scared of a sniffles, so scared of Omicron that

00:13:09.480 I know personally, people who have actually isolated their children for 10 days in a house so that the

00:13:16.640 parents don't get exposed to this. People have been traumatized with fear and it's a normal human

00:13:22.300 condition. I think part of being a rebel is like the more people push, the more you push back. And I

00:13:27.540 was of the persuasion where I followed for a bit, you know, two weeks to flatten the curve,

00:13:31.640 let's all do our part. But the more they kept pushing, it's in my nature to push back. And now

00:13:36.100 two years later, I'm, I'm off the rails to some, I don't, but they put up with it because of fear.

00:13:40.820 Some of them put up with it because it just doesn't, it doesn't affect them. You know,

00:13:43.960 some people have done better under all of this and it has not compromised their lives. If you don't go

00:13:48.140 out at night, if you don't have kids in school, if you don't have a job that was, that was shut

00:13:52.760 down, if you don't have a business that was shut down, if you didn't live a lifestyle that was not

00:13:56.980 affected, or if you can maintain the lifestyle nonetheless, just pay more for travel, uh, do

00:14:02.020 whatever is required, uh, in terms of financial, uh, expenses to live the life that you've always

00:14:07.340 lived. Well, you're not going to complain. Some people have done better, uh, in which case they're

00:14:11.280 not going to complain either. So really it is, it's the middle of the road people who have been

00:14:16.160 suffering the brunt of this, but they have been, uh, they've been forced into silence to some extent

00:14:21.360 because you can't complain about it because you're selfish. You can't complain about it because

00:14:25.620 you're undermining the science. So for a number of reasons, people have been forced into silence,

00:14:31.340 but I think the more that people speak up, the more that people speak out of others. I don't know

00:14:35.740 that Quebec's been leading this because, you know, they've been, they've been nuts over in the

00:14:39.540 Maritimes bubble for a while. You know, they had the cross border, uh, uh, blockade, uh, from the

00:14:45.600 Maritime bubble to Quebec and Ontario. Uh, you know, they were prohibiting, uh, by way of injunction,

00:14:51.200 peaceful assembly protests against the measures in Nova Scotia, Alberta locking up pastors, uh,

00:14:57.120 Canada as a whole has been on, on the, on the free fall sort of in tandem. Quebec might, uh,

00:15:03.820 have a little more liberty, I should say in pulling away people's liberties because they've

00:15:07.760 already done it enough historically, uh, in the province, we're used to laws that prohibit

00:15:13.000 religious facewear because we've, we've, we've, we've tolerated them pre COVID. We're used to laws

00:15:18.020 that restrict language rights because they were there pre COVID. So comes down to it at the end

00:15:22.380 of the day in Quebec to say, okay, well, just two weeks to flatten the curve. Now we're going to

00:15:25.540 lock in your house. People are so terrified. They won't speak out against it. Uh, people are so

00:15:29.600 terrified. They think it's necessary and others, uh, too late. You can't say anything about it because

00:15:34.060 it's already there, but it really does feel like we're living through a real time, real life

00:15:38.800 Milgram experiments where you have experts, medical experts, Horatio Arruda, literally

00:15:44.480 imposing a curfew that they themselves in real time acknowledge has no scientific basis.

00:15:49.480 And it's just like, Hey, let's just, let's just see if this works better do something. Cause at least

00:15:53.320 if we do something, people are going to think we're doing something and they're not going to

00:15:55.740 think we're doing nothing. We're in this case doing nothing might've been less destructive than

00:15:59.580 doing what they're doing. But I don't, I don't think we're leading the way. I think we have a bit

00:16:03.240 of a precedent in Quebec given our language laws and given some other laws that we, uh,

00:16:07.340 have accepted that limit our freedoms, but Canada has been going downhill pretty quickly,

00:16:12.420 pretty much in tandem. Uh, but yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Yeah, you're right. I, I shouldn't

00:16:18.340 pick on, on Quebec, uh, David, because I know like one of the most egregious things that have happened

00:16:22.540 in the entire pandemic was when Ontario premier, conservative premier Doug Ford, um, gave police

00:16:28.720 permission to stop anybody at any time, any place, uh, to ask them what they're doing out, which is sort

00:16:33.040 of an Australian measure. And one of the, one of the most, uh, you know, empowering

00:16:37.340 and heartening moments of the, of the pandemic is that the police by and large said, no, we're not

00:16:41.420 doing that. We're not enforcing this, um, unconstitutional, irrational, uh, edict. And,

00:16:46.900 and, and then it sort of went away. So certainly we've seen madness, um, across the entire spectrum.

00:16:52.240 One thing that I found is that in some ways the laws that, uh, are designed to kind of pick on young

00:17:00.460 people and disproportionately harm young people are sort of like the ones that they get the most

00:17:05.320 attention and, and are in some ways most popular. I know we saw a group of Quebec influencers on an

00:17:10.660 airplane, uh, you know, they're out of the country, they chartered a plane. It's, it's their, it's their

00:17:14.700 own private plane. And yet this, this elicited outrage from the media and politicians, I know

00:17:19.740 Justin Trudeau commented on it. Um, the idea of a curfew, it really, it really is to impact young

00:17:25.080 people who, who by and large, you know, people in their twenties don't really have the same, uh,

00:17:30.500 impact from COVID. They don't really die and they don't get sick in the same number. So it's like

00:17:34.280 all of these, all of these blunt, heavy handed measures, um, they, they harm young people the

00:17:40.040 most because they're the least likely to get sick and the most likely to have this sort of negative

00:17:44.240 societal effects that will be with them their whole lives. And that's one of my biggest criticisms

00:17:48.320 is just how, you know, rather than like saying, Hey, let's just make sure that we protect the most

00:17:52.740 vulnerable. It's like, we just have these blanket laws that impact everyone and, and harm

00:17:56.480 young people. That's not even getting into the impact on kids in schools and forcing little

00:18:00.520 kids to wear masks, forcing little kids to get vaccinated, uh, you know, without, without the

00:18:05.360 long-term data of long-term side effects and consequences. It's all just been really, really

00:18:09.640 disheartening. It's, it's, it's madness. And I went through, uh, on one of my videos of talking to

00:18:15.280 some McGill students, they're, they're in isolation in university. If they have unlawful gatherings,

00:18:20.140 they can get suspended from school, uh, forced to pay fines to the government. Uh, they're forced to go

00:18:25.380 into, you know, pay for accommodations off campus. Uh, then you get into, you know, the compelled

00:18:31.420 vaccination of teenagers and giving them the vaccine passports. My kid at her school, uh, saw people

00:18:37.800 kicked off the soccer field when they wanted to try out for soccer because they weren't fully

00:18:40.660 vaccinated 13 year old kids. I mean, this is, it's, it's psychological abuse. It's unscientific.

00:18:47.140 It's unconstitutional. It's immoral. It's, it's everything. And, you know, so without getting too

00:18:53.560 much into that, you know, at the very least in Ontario, your police, uh, said, no, we're not

00:18:57.480 going to do this in Quebec. They're literally arresting everybody who's out protesting the

00:19:01.500 curfew. Uh, it, it's a weird thing. Quebec's police have always been a little, they've been

00:19:06.920 a little, Quebec's police have always had a reputation within Canada more so than other

00:19:10.180 provinces. But what is interesting is just seeing the powers that be respond to this, who

00:19:14.500 opposes it, who willingly enforces it, who gleefully enforces it. But it's the, I won't say

00:19:20.340 part of the plan. It's just the, uh, side benefit of the plan is that when you get everyone dependent

00:19:25.780 on the state or fearful of the state, you get everyone adhering to the edicts of the state,

00:19:31.260 regardless of whether or not they agree with them and regardless of whether or not they're

00:19:33.440 scientific. So the police need their paychecks, the people can't afford the fines. And so you end

00:19:38.700 up having everyone living in fear. And I mean, it is nothing shy of tyranny. And I believe by the

00:19:46.000 true definition of the term fascism, it's nothing but fascism where you have government working with

00:19:50.640 corporations, working with the media, all having their beautiful orgy of power to reign in the

00:19:57.940 population and basically control every aspect of their life, right down to who they can have in

00:20:03.000 their own house for private gatherings, which are currently outlawed in Quebec. If you can believe

00:20:07.120 that. It's crazy, David, because if you described any of this to us, you know, three years ago,

00:20:12.920 four years ago, that these kinds of measures were happening, we, I would never believe you.

00:20:16.400 You know, if someone said, Hey, Donald Trump just got elected and guess what he's going to do. And

00:20:19.620 he named everything that Justin Trudeau has done in the last year, I would say you're completely

00:20:23.240 wacko. And that would never happen in North America. And yet here we are and it's happening

00:20:27.420 and it's happened. I know, you know, you're, you're a brilliant legal mind and you are also

00:20:31.800 an activist. So what, what is it that you're doing to push back against this? And what can other

00:20:36.060 Canadians do, uh, that say enough is enough. We want our freedoms back. We want to go back to normal.

00:20:40.240 We don't want to live under this medical tyranny anymore.

00:20:43.600 I'm not sure if I'm a brilliant legal mind and I'm not sure if I'm an activist because I,

00:20:47.200 I bought them end of the day. I, you know, I don't tell people to go out and protest. I don't

00:20:51.680 tell people to go out and break the law. And I don't do it myself. Uh, I, I raise awareness. I

00:20:56.500 think I explain what's going on. I explain why I think it's fundamentally unconstitutional,

00:21:01.060 uh, why I think it's fundamentally immoral and why I think it's fundamentally unscientific in my

00:21:05.520 limited, uh, you know, I'm not a scientist, but I, I have a brain and I can read articles.

00:21:09.940 And I can also see what the scientists are saying now compared to what they said a year

00:21:13.500 ago, uh, raise awareness, explain what's that issue. I've had these discussions with people

00:21:18.660 over the last two years. Like, sure. There's some of them said there's a risk. The government

00:21:22.280 goes too far. And I, and I keep needling. Like, is it too far now when they pepper sprayed

00:21:25.940 the guy in the face at Tim Hortons, cause he wasn't wearing a mask. Was it too far then

00:21:29.580 when they're compelling vaccination of 12 year olds? Is it too far now third shot in Quebec,

00:21:34.200 or you won't be able to go into grocery stores. Is it too far now in new Brunswick? Is it too far

00:21:39.020 now? So sometimes, you know, like I think it was Orwell who said in times of madness,

00:21:42.580 stating the obvious as a revolutionary act, just keep stating the obvious. The problem is

00:21:47.080 I am not sure that people, um, want the change. I think there's a lot of people who are,

00:21:53.700 I won't say beyond the point of, of, of repair, but who are certainly in the frame of mind right now

00:21:59.100 that they're double masking outside. And when you have a significant enough portion of the

00:22:04.620 population that thinks that we actually need these measures to stave off an existential threat

00:22:10.140 to our very existence, uh, they will do anything. I mean, it's, uh, who said that Nietzsche, if you can

00:22:16.460 get people to believe the absurd, you can get them to commit atrocities, you know, something along those

00:22:20.440 lines. We're at the point where a large portion of the population are now firmly embedded in believing

00:22:26.440 the absurd. And they, I think they cannot bring themselves to admit that they believe the absurd

00:22:30.320 because it would have to mean that they were duped, uh, which would be an attack on their own

00:22:34.840 intelligence. It would be an attack on their own ego. And so they cannot admit that. And they just

00:22:39.140 have to keep going further and further into the, into the scenario. I won't say the lie out of

00:22:43.880 respect. Uh, so I, I don't know that you can have the change until you have enough people who want the

00:22:48.280 change. Uh, I don't think it can be a violent change. I don't think it can be an unlawful change

00:22:52.660 because I've been saying this from the beginning when people say, well, why don't you go out there and

00:22:56.740 you know, break curfew and break the law. I'm thoroughly convinced that nothing would play more

00:23:01.880 into the hands of the, of the, of the tyrants of Trudeau of Legault than to have people out there

00:23:06.460 breaking windows, breaking the laws. Cause when they did that in old Montreal and they smashed

00:23:10.180 some windows and Lord knows who did it. Cause I don't know that there were people part of the actual

00:23:13.680 movement that did it. What, what happens to police on the street. And so it can't be a, a violent

00:23:20.140 solution. It has to be a political one because it's not going to be a judicial one. Cause I've seen how

00:23:25.120 the courts are just not doing anything. The courts are not intervening in Quebec. We had a lawyer

00:23:30.780 challenged the curfew on an injunctive basis. The court said, no, not, not a serious enough, uh,

00:23:36.020 violation. Uh, les entrepreneurs en action de Quebec EAQ sued for the lockdown measures,

00:23:41.400 the face masks. The court said, no face masking kids is, is, is justifiable because the risk,

00:23:47.120 however minimal is there. The quarantine hotels have been upheld at the federal level. The courts are not

00:23:51.880 going to do anything. There's no judge. That's going to want blood on his or her hands by having

00:23:56.380 struck down a law and then have someone blame him for the deaths of someone in an old person home.

00:24:00.800 Uh, the politicians are not going to make any change now because they see it's too beneficial

00:24:04.720 to keep pushing this fear. Uh, Trudeau himself will never let up on this because this COVID pandemic

00:24:10.720 has been the biggest blessing for Trudeau's reign as prime minister, because nobody's talking about

00:24:15.600 Aga Khan scandal. Nobody's talking about SNC Lavalin scandal. Nobody's talking about

00:24:19.500 Wee's charity scandal. There was another one I forgot, which, oh, I always forget the third one.

00:24:24.720 No, the fourth one. Nobody's talking about his scandals anymore. And he gets to go into full

00:24:29.040 tyrannical parent mode. He's got our backs. Uh, and it's the perfect distraction. So don't expect him

00:24:35.480 to walk anything back. Don't expect Legault to walk anything back because while he's jamming down

00:24:40.440 these unconstitutional laws, he's trying to jam down other unconstitutional laws, Bill C-96,

00:24:45.400 the reform to Bill 101. So they love it. It's the biggest power grab for the government.

00:24:49.140 And they're, they're, they're never going to give back the power. And if the solution is not going

00:24:52.920 to be political by the will of the people, the people are going to live with it. And that's

00:24:57.800 going to be that. It's sad to think, because I think you're right. So many people do in some

00:25:02.880 ways benefit, not maybe not necessarily, you know, benefit from the, the overarching fear that they,

00:25:07.720 that they live with, but it's like, you know, if it's the middle winter and it's negative 30 outside

00:25:11.900 and you don't have to go to work, you can just work from home. That's really a lot better. Right. So I,

00:25:16.980 I think unfortunately a lot of people have just slid into this sort of comfort and they want to put

00:25:21.780 their safety, they're willing to put their safety ahead of everything else, sacrifice their liberty

00:25:25.800 for security. And we know that they'll get neither, but you're right. We definitely have our work cut

00:25:31.380 out for us, David. And I'm so glad that there are people like you out there sort of on the front lines

00:25:35.740 of the internet, explaining everything, breaking everything down, helping us stay educated and aware

00:25:40.880 of all the various problems. So I thank you for your YouTube channel and all the work you do over there.

00:25:45.400 And I really appreciate you joining the show today. Thank you very much for having me. It was great.

00:25:49.780 All right. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show.

The Candice Malcolm Show - January 17, 2022

The moving COVID-19 goalposts in Quebec (Ft. Viva Frei)

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