The Candice Malcolm Show - Toronto AS DANGEROUS as Iraq + RCMP & CBC agree that “traditional values” are radical and extremist

00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:05.500 We have a great episode for you today, folks.

00:00:08.480 A little later in the episode, I'm going to play an outrageous clip that has been going

00:00:12.860 viral online of an RCMP staff sergeant on the CBC talking about extremism.

00:00:19.440 She literally uses the example of someone who might be becoming extreme by saying someone

00:00:24.580 who has traditional values.

00:00:26.300 So having traditional values, according to the RCMP and according to the CBC, makes

00:00:30.720 you extremist. 0.61

00:00:31.560 You can't make this stuff up. 0.82

00:00:32.640 It is absolutely crazy.

00:00:34.520 But first, I'm very pleased today to be joined by a new guest on the program and a new face

00:00:39.200 here at Juno News.

00:00:40.400 I'm talking about Ron Chinzer.

00:00:42.460 Ron is the host of our new show called The Crime Report, which airs every Friday here

00:00:47.380 on Juno News.

00:00:49.220 So Ron was the conservative candidate in Oakville East during the recent 2025 federal election

00:00:54.620 for Pierre Polyev's Conservatives.

00:00:56.160 Unfortunately, he did not win his seat, but their loss is our victory because he has now

00:01:01.300 joined Juno News.

00:01:02.380 He's a former police officer with more than 20 years of law experience in law enforcement,

00:01:07.300 specializing in gang prevention and organized crime.

00:01:10.320 So he's a perfect person to be talking about the absolute crisis of violent crime, of home

00:01:16.140 invasions, of carjacking, just out of control, third world crime that is happening in Toronto.

00:01:22.000 In Toronto, it's not just a Toronto problem.

00:01:23.680 I know it's spilling over.

00:01:25.180 It happens now in places like Calgary, Vancouver, Montreal, but Toronto is sort of ground zero

00:01:30.700 of this.

00:01:31.700 And it's kind of becoming normalized, right?

00:01:33.720 Like we're normalizing the idea that, hey, in Canada, sometimes violent thugs just break

00:01:38.520 into your house in the middle of the night, hold you and your family hostage and steal

00:01:42.280 all your stuff.

00:01:43.000 What are you going to do about it?

00:01:44.180 And I cannot believe that it was not a bigger issue in the recent election.

00:01:48.540 But anyway, Ron, very pleased to have you on the show.

00:01:51.840 Very pleased to have you joining us with Juno News and welcome to the show.

00:01:55.420 Thank you, Candice.

00:01:55.960 Thanks for having me.

00:01:56.780 So the story that I want to talk to you about first is the story that broke out of Toronto

00:02:01.520 over the weekend.

00:02:02.440 So a jury has acquitted a teen who claimed self-defense in a fatal Toronto school shooting,

00:02:09.280 saying he carried a gun because his neighborhood, which is Scarborough, which is a part of Toronto,

00:02:13.720 felt like Iraq.

00:02:14.700 So a jury found on Friday that this 20-year-old man who's 20 years old, he was accused of

00:02:22.360 second-degree murder.

00:02:23.900 He shot and killed somebody at his school.

00:02:26.260 He claimed that the victim was 18-year-old Jefferson Gurrier, was lunging at him with a

00:02:31.400 knife.

00:02:31.860 And so this young man, whose name is concealed because he was a minor during the time of the

00:02:36.320 incident, pulled out a gun and shot him four times, killing him.

00:02:40.720 And so the fact that a jury in Canada buys a story that, hey, you know, Toronto is kind

00:02:47.040 of a third-world country now.

00:02:48.280 We've let in so many people from so many different backgrounds who don't have any respect for 1.00

00:02:51.660 Canadian values or Canadian law.

00:02:53.300 So our city now feels like a third-world war zone. 0.93

00:02:57.260 So it's okay to carry a gun and shoot someone.

00:03:00.420 So I'm just wondering if we can get your thoughts on this story, Ron.

00:03:04.480 This and my thoughts are going to be similar to anybody else who probably read this and looked

00:03:08.240 at this where they scratched their head.

00:03:09.520 If you look at what's been happening in the GTA and the rest of the country, but let's

00:03:13.600 just hammer down the GTA over the last couple of years.

00:03:16.120 This is where, you know, even when I read this, I was confused because it doesn't set a solid

00:03:20.660 precedence going forward.

00:03:22.320 On one hand, you have people defending their homes and their families getting charged in

00:03:26.480 the process of defending them.

00:03:27.480 And these are normal, innocent people, by the way.

00:03:29.000 And then on the other hand, you have within the same month, a jury acquitting somebody who

00:03:33.740 had said, look, I had to defend myself because my neighborhood in Toronto reminded me of

00:03:38.760 Iraq, a place where I grew up.

00:03:40.180 And that is telling because if somebody who grew up in a, you know, third-world potential

00:03:45.940 conflict zone started to recognize that within our streets in the city of Toronto, being the

00:03:52.180 largest municipality in the country, that says a lot more than I think we're giving credit

00:03:56.120 for.

00:03:56.680 But it blows my mind.

00:03:57.940 Well, you're right.

00:03:58.680 It's unbelievable that we are dealing with this crime crisis in Toronto where you have

00:04:04.100 armed thugs breaking into people's homes.

00:04:05.960 There was a couple examples of cases where people weren't initially charged.

00:04:09.800 There's a, I'm thinking of a story, Milton, Ontario, back in July 23, murder charges were

00:04:14.680 dropped against a Milton, Ontario man who shot and killed a home intruder.

00:04:18.520 So originally he was, he was charged.

00:04:21.680 You know, someone comes into your house and is armed and you shoot them in self-defense.

00:04:27.100 It's surprising that that would be charged.

00:04:28.760 But back to the Toronto case in the Toronto story.

00:04:31.440 I mean, this happened at a school, right?

00:04:33.760 So this caused a lot of concern for parents, moms in Toronto thinking, you know, I'm sending

00:04:39.140 my child to a public school.

00:04:40.720 You kind of assume that they're going to be safe, that there's not going to be guns and

00:04:44.040 violence.

00:04:44.980 And yet, I mean, clearly the jury believed this man's story.

00:04:49.520 Just to clarify, he's still facing illegal firearm charges.

00:04:53.540 He remains in custody and returns to court next week to address the remaining firearm charges.

00:04:57.840 So it's not a full acquittal at this point, but still, I kind of wondered about the precedent,

00:05:03.260 right?

00:05:03.520 So if you're allowed to carry a gun, are you allowed to carry a concealed weapon now in

00:05:07.240 Canada?

00:05:07.640 I mean, if this young man was acquitted, clearly a jury believes that Toronto is now so unsafe

00:05:13.560 that one needs to carry, you know, not just a weapon in your home to protect yourself

00:05:18.380 from potential invaders, but a concealed weapon that you would even bring to a school.

00:05:22.940 I mean, does this form any sort of precedent and what do you make of that?

00:05:28.100 Yeah, absolutely it does.

00:05:29.120 I think there's a couple of precedents that it sets here.

00:05:30.940 I think the first thing being that, you know, first off, whenever there's a jury trial or

00:05:35.440 jury selection, that's up to the defense.

00:05:37.740 So that's up to the accused person to decide, are we going to go by a trial by a judge, which

00:05:41.960 is going to be a very technical trial, or are we going to go by jury where we think we

00:05:46.280 have a better chance of convincing them of the situation that we're in being, can I put a jury

00:05:50.400 member into the position that I'm in and would that jury say, well, you know what, in that

00:05:53.860 situation, it's reasonable to assume.

00:05:56.100 And that's the route that they chose.

00:05:57.640 And that to me, that shows a shift in culture.

00:05:59.600 You know, I can remember being a police officer earlier on when all these crime shows used

00:06:03.620 to come out and all these crime shows, they would find a piece of glass and they'd analyze

00:06:07.360 it in forensics and they'd tell you to make and model and speed and all these things you

00:06:11.200 couldn't really do.

00:06:12.360 But we would go to trials and we'd have juries and defense lawyers saying, well, there was

00:06:16.340 no DNA, there was no evidence, regardless of this person being known to police, caught

00:06:20.820 on video, other evidence of the scene, the community and the jury would always ask for

00:06:25.160 things that sometimes they would see in movies.

00:06:27.160 And in this particular case, you know, the other part of this that's interesting to me

00:06:30.280 on the outer layer is what's changed in our culture and our community now as a society

00:06:35.380 where for some people, we can put ourselves in their shoes like this and say, yes, you were

00:06:40.560 17 at the time.

00:06:41.860 You had a firearm.

00:06:42.600 You said you felt unsafe in your neighborhood and somebody lunged at you allegedly, according 0.98

00:06:47.220 to this article, and you decided to respond with shooting and killing them ultimately. 0.91

00:06:51.640 And that's forgivable. 1.00

00:06:52.820 That's okay.

00:06:53.580 But we're still going to-

00:06:54.200 Out of school.

00:06:54.480 I mean, add on to that, that there were other students nearby that the accused shooter was

00:06:59.780 a student.

00:07:00.340 The other person apparently was a bully, his bully, who tormented this young man.

00:07:03.940 That's what the jury heard anyway.

00:07:05.100 And he, so he shot and killed him in the schoolyard, just outside in a parking lot, which again,

00:07:11.460 just adds another layer to it.

00:07:12.920 It does.

00:07:13.500 And it becomes, you know, well, what's the repercussion for this type of behavior?

00:07:15.780 We all send our kids to school under the guise and under the, the true responsibility at the

00:07:21.160 school, you're going to do everything in the best interest of my kid, especially when

00:07:23.680 it comes down to safety.

00:07:24.580 And most of us parents in Canada, you know, one income is not enough.

00:07:28.080 We know this.

00:07:28.680 People are working, not just one job.

00:07:30.220 They're working two jobs, especially couples. 0.87

00:07:32.500 So realistically, most people I speak to, like all my friends, once our kids are at school,

00:07:36.240 we have this blind trust that they're going to be safe there.

00:07:38.080 We have this blind trust that they're going to be reasonable.

00:07:40.320 But when you see this happening, especially in places like Toronto on the outskirts, again,

00:07:44.400 it sets more of this anxiety.

00:07:46.260 And this is where we talk about ideologies, you know, Toronto got rid of school officers

00:07:50.520 back in like 2015 because they said it was racist and they said it was, it was not

00:07:54.120 fair to students.

00:07:55.060 Now it's starting to come back.

00:07:56.580 The reason I bring that up was this happened in a school.

00:07:59.040 We have a jury now who's, who's probably changed their mind and their culture on a

00:08:02.760 little things.

00:08:03.160 And that's indicative of a larger process.

00:08:05.440 And then you have, uh, you know, now, now law enforcement now is being told, come back

00:08:09.020 in and clean up this mess.

00:08:10.540 This is just not good all the way around.

00:08:12.180 And I think this is where most reasonable people see these results and they start asking

00:08:16.060 themselves, well, I've been asking for months, where is the clarity on how I can defend

00:08:20.120 myself?

00:08:20.520 And it's always been met with a question mark.

00:08:22.480 Meanwhile, something in your face caught on camera where the person isn't really saying I

00:08:26.860 never did it.

00:08:27.380 They're saying I did it, but here's why.

00:08:29.080 They're allowed off.

00:08:29.940 And that's where most normal, good people who don't get a gun to protect themselves

00:08:33.400 illegally are saying, guys, where is the lines here?

00:08:35.860 I don't get it.

00:08:36.580 And this is where you have what I feel like is sometimes a two tier justice system.

00:08:40.740 Well, it certainly seems that way.

00:08:41.540 I mean, especially given that presumably this firearm was not legally acquired.

00:08:45.760 You're talking about a culture shift.

00:08:46.800 I want to go down memory lane a little bit, just three years ago, a trigger warning to the

00:08:51.060 audience.

00:08:51.400 I'm going to play a clip of former prime minister, Justin Trudeau here.

00:08:54.080 He was on a podcast and he told us that in Canada, you cannot use a gun for self-defense.

00:09:01.020 Play that clip.

00:09:01.420 We have a culture where the difference is guns can be used for hunting or for sport

00:09:07.760 shooting in Canada.

00:09:08.520 And there are lots of gun owners and they're mostly law respecting and law abiding.

00:09:13.360 But you can't use a gun for self-protection in Canada.

00:09:17.360 That's not a right that you have in the Constitution or anywhere else.

00:09:21.520 So this is Justin Trudeau's playbook.

00:09:24.060 Import the third world, gut our justice system, make our cities incredibly unsafe, and then 1.00

00:09:29.780 go out there and tell Canadians, oh, by the way, that gun that you have, we're going to

00:09:32.800 take that away.

00:09:33.580 And you don't have the right to defend yourself if someone is invading your house or in this

00:09:38.440 case of this young man in Toronto who was lunging at you with a knife, according to our former

00:09:43.360 prime minister there, you don't have self-defense.

00:09:46.040 I mean, to me, this is like how to destroy a country in three easy steps.

00:09:50.200 But I wonder what Justin Trudeau would say about this current case and a young man who

00:09:54.380 presumably came to Canada under Justin Trudeau's watch.

00:09:57.480 He feels like the country he came to is more like Iraq than the Canada that you and I grew

00:10:03.280 up in.

00:10:04.000 Well, they'll be selective about it.

00:10:05.180 Likely, he would pivot back to this young man, this 17-year-old who grew up in such a

00:10:09.000 terrible environment.

00:10:09.900 And what are all the things that we could have offered this person so this never happened?

00:10:13.280 Which is, look, it's a conversation that should be had.

00:10:15.420 But again, he's not looking at the most obvious of things here.

00:10:20.540 You know, when you have, in this particular case here, this young person who murdered another

00:10:25.340 young person, they had an illegal firearm with one specific purpose and one intent, to protect

00:10:30.620 themselves by the means of a firearm.

00:10:33.300 Now, let's take a look at law-abiding firearm owners in the country.

00:10:36.560 They have guns registered.

00:10:38.240 They follow the courses.

00:10:39.040 They get routine background checks on a daily basis with the purpose of other things.

00:10:42.920 They have the guns for hunting, for sports shooting, their collectibles.

00:10:46.500 So that's what they have it for.

00:10:48.460 And then here you have somebody who got an illegal gun, allegedly, for one specific purpose,

00:10:53.080 and they used it for that purpose.

00:10:54.460 And they were found not guilty of a serious crime being murdered.

00:10:57.940 And this is, again, where you have this two-tiered system of two perspectives.

00:11:03.400 Now, look, you can have anything with you and not have it for a purpose of having it self-defense.

00:11:10.140 So, for example, you can walk around the streets with a knife on you.

00:11:13.800 But if you get stopped by police and you say, yes, I have this knife on me because I use it

00:11:17.140 to cut my apples or cut my oranges, that's not illegal.

00:11:20.020 If you say, I have this with me because it's for self-protection and for self-defense,

00:11:23.880 now it's a weapon under the criminal code.

00:11:25.480 Now you're stuck and you're going to get charged with it.

00:11:27.400 There is no logical reason for a 17-year-old to have a firearm with them at school.

00:11:32.600 Zero.

00:11:33.020 It's criminal 100% through and through.

00:11:35.380 And that intent is the most important part.

00:11:37.400 Number one, how did you get access to this firearm?

00:11:39.000 Number two, what purpose did you have it for?

00:11:40.820 If you have it loaded, ready to go, and you're saying it's for my defense and you're in a

00:11:44.480 school setting, that has to be heightened and amplified to be like, well, what's the bigger

00:11:47.680 picture here?

00:11:48.280 And then what is the net outcome if we don't find a guilty plea?

00:11:51.180 But this is probably why they went by way of jury.

00:11:53.580 The jury doesn't understand the technicalities.

00:11:55.880 They're going to go on an emotional lens of, let me paint a picture of this poor kid in

00:11:59.900 this environment, which look, I'm sure it's a tough environment, but we have to look at

00:12:03.980 the end result.

00:12:04.540 He killed somebody and he had a weapon for one single purpose, unlike most lawful gun

00:12:08.100 owners in the country.

00:12:09.480 Well, I think I speak for so many parents in the GTA, Ron, when I say that the complete

00:12:14.600 crime crisis that we're experiencing is terrifying.

00:12:17.460 I mean, I watch your show.

00:12:18.720 There's several other social media influencers who are constantly sharing clips of home invasions,

00:12:23.900 people breaking into someone's house in the middle of the night, presumably trying to

00:12:27.400 steal a car, steal some jewelry.

00:12:29.240 But it's terrifying.

00:12:30.240 It's unbelievable this happens in our country, in Canada.

00:12:34.140 You were talking to me a bit off air about why this is happening, what's led to it.

00:12:39.480 And one of the things that I want to highlight to the audience is the fact that we just don't

00:12:43.920 have laws on the books to deal with this kind of thing.

00:12:46.860 If someone breaks into someone's home and holds the family hostage, it basically gets

00:12:51.840 treated as like a property crime, almost like a slap on the wrist, which is so unconscionable.

00:12:57.700 So maybe you can just sort of walk us through what's happening and what you think can be

00:13:01.820 done to fix this problem.

00:13:03.940 Yeah.

00:13:04.120 So what's happening is this is the evolution of crime.

00:13:06.320 It's what is the path of least resistance funny enough to be able to get the biggest outcome.

00:13:10.740 It's like anything else.

00:13:11.600 So in this particular case, COVID happens, everybody gets locked in at home, mental health crisis,

00:13:15.940 isolation, alcoholism, and drug use goes up.

00:13:18.720 Drugs have to come from someplace, generally organized crime delivered by street level gangs.

00:13:24.200 And then when gangs are dealing drugs, they have to defend their territory, which brings

00:13:26.920 in a demand for firearms from the US because they got to defend it.

00:13:29.920 Well, drug dealing became so dangerous in the GTA and the rest of the country that some

00:13:34.120 of these drug dealers said, you know what?

00:13:35.460 I'm going to pivot over.

00:13:36.500 They found some stuff on Amazon.

00:13:38.280 They took some, you know, YouTube classes or whatever.

00:13:40.560 And then they learned how to steal cars.

00:13:42.400 Well, as the tech guys were stealing cars off of driveways using Bluetooth technology, the

00:13:47.240 real hardened gang members and the real violent people started to realize dealing drugs is

00:13:52.020 a little dangerous for me.

00:13:53.200 I'm going to pivot over to what they're doing, but I don't care for the tech.

00:13:55.720 I'm going to go straight to home invasion style.

00:13:57.420 And you saw the change.

00:13:59.220 Initially it was pickup trucks, you know, certain midsize SUVs, some cars getting stolen because

00:14:04.480 that was where the technology was.

00:14:05.980 Now you see it to high end luxury vehicles.

00:14:08.360 These are all targeted people and they get surveilled, whether from a mall or a movie theater

00:14:13.420 back to their home.

00:14:14.400 These violent guys will come in generally around four o'clock in the morning, smash in the

00:14:18.260 front door with either firearms or hammer, immediately go to the master bedroom, hold

00:14:22.600 up the family hostage, not only now still in the cars, but other valuables like purses,

00:14:26.920 watches, and then they leave and they just leave a wake of violence in the past and they're

00:14:31.200 gone.

00:14:32.200 And this becomes the, you know, the biggest issue is we don't know who the next victim

00:14:36.480 is going to be.

00:14:37.000 It could be you or I.

00:14:38.200 And in this country, what I've seen is hilarious, but also very sad.

00:14:42.080 You know, when I'd put up, we'd had a home invasion in my neighborhood a couple of days

00:14:45.180 ago.

00:14:45.480 And, uh, the victim of it was an elderly male who was ransacked and then had his nose

00:14:50.140 broken.

00:14:50.520 And then his adult son allegedly had tried to intervene and he was choked and these people

00:14:54.940 had stolen five Rolexes from him.

00:14:56.580 And the comments said, well, you shouldn't have had five Rolexes.

00:14:59.260 This is the problem you can never accept, um, not being able to live your life and say,

00:15:04.960 well, if I live my life and I do well in life, I'm going to be victimized by it.

00:15:08.320 And that's just a part of life.

00:15:09.640 You can't accept it.

00:15:10.620 This is on the pathway to countries like, you know, old Venezuela, certain parts of Mexico,

00:15:16.860 certain parts of South America, where you are truly targeted because of your success

00:15:21.380 and wealth resulting in sometimes child abductions.

00:15:24.100 That is kind of how this thing evolves.

00:15:26.000 It's very predictable, but the lack of attention from our government is, is that is probably

00:15:31.400 the most frustrating thing.

00:15:32.500 If they just paid attention to this, when it was starting to grow in from every expert

00:15:36.200 being chiefs of police and police unions saying, we have a huge problem here years ago, we

00:15:41.600 wouldn't be in this position, but even to the state, is anybody talking about it?

00:15:45.480 No, I honestly felt like it was, it should have been one of the major issues of the federal

00:15:49.700 election.

00:15:50.060 I, from the conversations that I have, people I talk to, I hear about this every single

00:15:54.160 day from moms and from women in the GTA.

00:15:57.020 And yet I feel like the media just hardly even wanted to talk about it, barely touched

00:16:00.920 it as an issue.

00:16:02.260 And I want to use this to pivot because the thing that they do care about apparently is

00:16:06.540 people who have traditional values.

00:16:08.500 This is according to the RCMP and the CBC.

00:16:11.560 So let me just tee this story up.

00:16:13.460 We learned yesterday that the RCMP have charged military members for allegedly plotting to

00:16:19.100 form a militia and seize land.

00:16:21.480 This is out of Quebec.

00:16:23.100 Three men face terrorism related charges.

00:16:27.440 The RCMP have charged four men, including two active members of the Canadian Armed Forces,

00:16:31.100 with being part of an extremist plot that event that allegedly involved creating an anti-government

00:16:35.300 militia with a massive trove of weapons.

00:16:37.740 The news released Tuesday morning, Mountie said that the group was involved in allegedly ideologically

00:16:42.360 motivated, violent plot to forcibly take land in and around Quebec City.

00:16:49.440 So look, I don't know anything about this group.

00:16:52.120 I don't endorse them in any way.

00:16:54.240 I condemn whatever they were doing.

00:16:55.900 I don't see much evidence that they were right wing other than just the fact that they

00:16:59.700 were part, there are two of them that were active members of Canadian Armed Forces, which

00:17:02.580 I don't know how that makes you right wing.

00:17:04.060 It just means that you served your country.

00:17:05.840 But apparently they were nationalists, whatever that means.

00:17:08.220 So I want to move this to a CBC interview that took place.

00:17:13.580 So according to that interview, the CBC host, RT Pohl, was interviewing Staff Sergeant Camille

00:17:20.860 Habel.

00:17:21.960 And this was going viral online because it is just so insane.

00:17:25.620 So I'm going to play the clip so you can hear her in her own words describing what it

00:17:30.140 means to be a violent right wing extremist.

00:17:32.940 Let's play that clip.

00:17:33.560 So radicalization in general quite often will show by people isolating themselves and changing

00:17:41.340 their behavior, like changing what they're saying on a subject, like becoming more extremist.

00:17:48.140 Like and if someone, you know, was very believed in equal gender rights, but all of a sudden are

00:17:56.800 leaning towards like traditional values and that might be a sign that they're becoming more extremist.

00:18:04.940 So if you're leaning more towards traditional values, if you used to believe in gender equality, so you used to

00:18:10.540 believe the left wing propaganda that they brainwash with you at school, that men and women are exactly the

00:18:14.520 same, there's no difference.

00:18:15.660 And then, you know, you get a little older and you might have some traditional values.

00:18:18.680 Maybe you want to get married and have some kids.

00:18:20.280 But that means, according to this person, the staff sergeant in the RCPS spokesperson, I

00:18:26.040 mean, she doesn't sound very forceful in her comments.

00:18:29.880 She seems like a little confused by even what she's saying, but she's clearly reading from

00:18:33.460 some kind of a handbook.

00:18:34.360 And this is what the CBC platforms, this is what our national broadcaster is putting into

00:18:38.920 the ears and the minds of the captured class of Canadians that sit at home and watch the 0.90

00:18:43.700 CBC lead you to believe that if you hold traditional values, Ron, you could be an extremist.

00:18:50.040 You could be a terrorist.

00:18:51.780 What do you make of all this?

00:18:53.320 Yeah, you know, I looked into this and this started in 2023 when initially RCMP had some

00:18:57.420 sort of information of this group starting to band together.

00:18:59.580 And then they were pretty active on social media to recruit people for the movement.

00:19:02.440 So, you know, they outed themselves and they had been known about it.

00:19:05.180 And I'm happy that these people were arrested, to tell you the truth, because of the cachet

00:19:08.540 of weapons and their intent.

00:19:09.540 Nobody can ever condone that.

00:19:11.080 But what concerns me the most about this is the actual interview and the talking points,

00:19:15.640 because generally speaking, when you're a police officer, there's an art to

00:19:19.120 communication, especially on major arrests.

00:19:21.560 And the police service is going to put somebody who can be articulate and hit the points on

00:19:26.060 this point here.

00:19:26.760 And in there, she makes a very specific reference to family values being Western values, being

00:19:31.380 the pivot point to extremism.

00:19:33.620 Now, that would have come from a bullet point and that would have become from a talking point.

00:19:37.380 And oftentimes those of us in a relationship will appreciate this.

00:19:40.820 You know, it's not what you said.

00:19:42.200 It's how you said it.

00:19:43.040 In this particular case, it's not how you said it.

00:19:45.780 It's what you said.

00:19:47.040 We know for a fact, this is not even debatable, that a healthy family is the strongest mitigator

00:19:52.140 of a multitude of risk factors to develop a healthy lifestyle, both in some lenses of

00:19:56.820 not being a criminal, not being a victim of a crime and generally living a healthy life.

00:20:01.120 And what we see here is we see our national police force utilizing the most basic concept

00:20:05.620 of every religious group, that a strong family is a strong community.

00:20:08.820 And that's what's good for all of us.

00:20:10.180 And this is passed down through thousands of years of different cultures into us.

00:20:14.260 And now we're being told by our national police force that any pivot back to that,

00:20:18.780 to revalue family values as we know it here in Western society, is actually moving towards

00:20:24.260 an extremism.

00:20:25.220 And when I looked at the extremism that they're referencing, they represent right-wing extremism.

00:20:29.480 I've never seen, and I looked for it really much, about any mention of other extremisms

00:20:35.120 like left-wing extremism.

00:20:36.460 Why is it always pivoting this way to the right way?

00:20:39.320 And since when has the thousands of years of historic values that we all carry now moved

00:20:44.920 to any other pivot?

00:20:46.480 I'd like to see the science and the evidence to say that we should be going the other direction

00:20:50.560 because I'll tell you what, it doesn't exist.

00:20:52.420 And for those that have the length of time, 10, 15 years where studies are done, I can tell

00:20:56.500 you that they say that these are not healthy avenues or paths.

00:20:58.780 This is a dangerous precedence to set.

00:21:01.160 And it's really disappointing to see another police officer and a police organization represent

00:21:05.280 this so publicly.

00:21:06.460 Well, let alone the state broadcaster putting this out there and not pushing back in any

00:21:11.280 way.

00:21:11.840 Like the idea that, hey, if you have traditional values, you might be a right-wing or you might

00:21:15.320 be an extremist and you might be on your way to becoming a terrorist.

00:21:17.960 I mean, what does that say to all the Canadians out there watching, saying, wait a minute,

00:21:21.780 is there something wrong with traditional values?

00:21:23.320 Is that what our state broadcaster and our RCMP are trying to communicate to us?

00:21:27.560 I mean, it just seems completely counter to like a healthy, happy society.

00:21:32.080 And so to just put it all in perspective here, you know, you have rampant crime in Toronto.

00:21:36.420 You have someone shooting someone else at a school in self-defense injury saying, well,

00:21:39.820 yeah, I mean, Toronto is kind of like a rock now.

00:21:42.380 And then here you have the state broadcaster and the police saying, you know, the real problem

00:21:46.600 are those moms and dads who want to have kids. 0.88

00:21:49.400 No, this is ludicrous.

00:21:51.580 You know, my kids, I have, obviously I have kids like most people, I would say most people

00:21:56.260 I do have kids.

00:21:57.100 Look, our family is number one.

00:21:58.860 And for those of us who value family, I could say collectively, you know, my experience generally,

00:22:03.320 not absolutely, but generally, those of us who really value family have either had the

00:22:07.520 luxury of coming from a good family or understand the impact of not having a solid family.

00:22:12.240 And we want to be the ones to break that cycle for our kids.

00:22:14.760 So we do everything we can to create this healthy, happy family environment.

00:22:17.780 And one of the best investigators I ever worked with, and this guy was leaps and bounds, one

00:22:22.160 of the best.

00:22:22.840 He had said to me, you know, you can't look at a single incident.

00:22:25.780 You have to look at the constellation of facts and constellation of incidents.

00:22:29.320 And when we look at this, when I look at the constellation over the last 10 years, in

00:22:33.440 my mind and in my personal opinion, there is an absolute attack on family values, on meaningful

00:22:38.540 education, on healthy peer groups, on strong individuals, and lastly, really strong communities.

00:22:43.580 It's, we've been severed into these pockets of individualization that just break us apart,

00:22:49.580 does nothing to pull us together.

00:22:51.380 You know, when you live on your street and you know all your neighbors, it's a great

00:22:53.640 environment, it's a great neighborhood.

00:22:54.920 When you don't know anybody, you're always living in a state of anxiety and a state of

00:22:57.900 divide.

00:22:58.220 And I think it's, it becomes much easier to, to push a narrative or to control a movement

00:23:02.000 when you don't have people talking to each other.

00:23:04.320 Well, I completely agree with that.

00:23:05.900 Ron, thank you so much for joining us.

00:23:07.500 And folks, check out the Crime Report with Ron Chinsner.

00:23:10.980 It is on Juno News, airing every Friday.

00:23:13.500 We're really excited about this show.

00:23:15.680 And Ron, thank you so much for your time today.

00:23:17.840 Thanks for your insights.

00:23:18.720 And thank you for joining the team here at Juno News.

00:23:21.020 Absolutely.

00:23:21.480 Thanks for the invite.

00:23:22.220 And I'm very happy to be part of the team.

00:23:23.700 Thank you guys.

00:23:25.280 All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today.

00:23:27.260 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:23:28.560 I'm Candace Malcolm's, Candace Malcolm Show.

00:23:30.020 Thank you and God bless.

The Candice Malcolm Show - July 10, 2025

Toronto AS DANGEROUS as Iraq + RCMP & CBC agree that “traditional values” are radical and extremist

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