The Candice Malcolm Show - Trudeau gives $900 million to his friends and is forced to take it back

00:00:00.000 Hi, and welcome to a special live edition of the True North Update.

00:00:09.460 I'm your host, Candice Malcolm, joined by my friend and my co-host, Andrew Lawton.

00:00:13.580 Andrew, welcome to the show.

00:00:14.680 How's it going?

00:00:15.600 Yes, doing pretty well.

00:00:16.620 Another Friday.

00:00:17.380 How's everything on your end?

00:00:18.980 Well, it's sort of an interesting Canada Day, Dominion Day celebration midweek.

00:00:22.580 So it felt like Saturday all day, and then all of a sudden we were like thrown back to

00:00:25.800 a Monday again, and now it's Friday.

00:00:27.220 So it's been kind of a fun week, but I love Dominion Day.

00:00:30.800 It's my favorite holiday, so it's always fun to sort of revel in Canadiana and spout off

00:00:36.040 some history and debate some crazy leftists who hate the country. 0.81

00:00:39.580 So that's always fun. 0.86

00:00:41.360 Yeah, especially this year.

00:00:42.280 That's all we heard.

00:00:43.240 I logged onto my phone on Canada Day, and it was just like every mainstream media article

00:00:47.300 imaginable was just about how Canada Day is problematic.

00:00:50.560 Yeah, I love the trigger warning on the Canada flag.

00:00:54.080 Especially because the Canadian flag is like a new, it's not a symbolic gesture of a past.

00:00:59.820 You know, it's new Canada.

00:01:01.560 It's not something that we had with us, you know, throughout history.

00:01:05.580 So it's just sort of really bizarre that anything associated with patriotism or pride in our

00:01:12.180 country or anything like that is seen as, like you said, problematic. 0.96

00:01:15.740 It's so silly. 0.99

00:01:16.880 It's so silly. 0.98

00:01:18.320 Yeah, that's life in 2020, though. 0.84

00:01:20.020 Well, let's get to the latest, because this is just a bizarre scandal.

00:01:24.660 It's so embarrassing for the prime minister.

00:01:27.140 And, you know, I'll just say one last thing about Canada Day.

00:01:30.320 I think that we should all feel free to criticize our country.

00:01:33.100 I think that's part of what makes Canada great.

00:01:34.780 I'm one of the most critical people, particularly of this government.

00:01:38.380 But there's a difference between, you know, criticizing your government or criticizing things

00:01:43.280 that the government has done versus criticizing the country as a whole.

00:01:46.640 So this is an example of where we should feel completely free to be as critical as we want

00:01:52.320 of Canada when it comes to criticizing our politicians, in this case, Justin Trudeau.

00:01:57.360 So this latest really bizarre scandal.

00:01:59.560 And, Andrew, I hope you can help walk us through it, because there's a lot of moving parts here.

00:02:03.420 So there is an organization called WE, which is a charity.

00:02:07.280 And the Trudeau government gave a $900 million sole source contract to this organization.

00:02:13.220 The organization has some pretty deep ties to Justin Trudeau himself, to the Trudeau family.

00:02:19.520 His wife hosts a podcast for this foundation.

00:02:22.540 And again, it's sole source.

00:02:24.420 So, you know, no one competed for this contract.

00:02:27.360 It just went to this group.

00:02:28.940 And then, you know, once we learned all the connections that they have with the Trudeau government,

00:02:33.060 they've now since sort of done an about face.

00:02:35.540 And the government is no longer giving this $900 million contract.

00:02:39.940 So let's just play.

00:02:40.800 We have a quick clip of Justin Trudeau just sort of saying nothing, as Trudeau typically

00:02:44.980 tends to do, explaining why this group is no longer getting the money.

00:02:51.900 Obviously, the way this situation has unfolded has been unfortunate.

00:02:56.420 We will continue to work hard to make sure that young people get the opportunities to serve

00:03:01.380 their country.

00:03:01.860 But it will no longer be with the organization.

00:03:04.380 So, Andrew, can you help us unpack this crazy news story?

00:03:08.660 What is this organization and what is going on with this $900 million grant?

00:03:13.620 To be honest, I don't know how much I can unpack it because it seemed bizarre from the get-go,

00:03:18.960 not just because of the questions you raised, I think, very effectively about Sophie Grégoire-Trudeau's

00:03:24.960 connections to WE and Justin Trudeau's connections to WE, which makes it concerning enough.

00:03:30.660 But also the fact that we needed a program in the first place to basically pay people

00:03:37.020 to volunteer.

00:03:38.460 I mean, for starters, that defeats the purpose of volunteerism.

00:03:41.200 Secondly, if the government is going to make a priority of nearly a billion dollars to do

00:03:45.940 that, why not do it in-house?

00:03:48.820 Government has lots of bureaucrats.

00:03:50.900 This is not a government that has ever shown an interest in the free of service.

00:03:54.100 And in fact, they actively resist that.

00:03:56.120 But if you are going to go through that process, why not put it out to an open bid?

00:04:00.760 Why not say quite publicly, yes, this is work that we're trying to do here?

00:04:04.720 Many people may not know of WE.

00:04:06.880 A lot of people would know it under its previous name, Free the Children, which was the big,

00:04:12.880 really, I think, widespread campaign across schools all over Canada of a certain age.

00:04:20.420 I think anyone under probably 35, 36 probably had this in school, these videos and the glory

00:04:26.880 that is the Kielberger brothers and their activism and efforts and all that.

00:04:30.740 But it sounds like there's been a huge morphing over the years, just as the organization changed

00:04:35.680 to WE, expanding really rapidly.

00:04:38.280 It's not just about overseas development now, but it's also about domestic volunteerism.

00:04:42.580 And they have a for-profit wing.

00:04:44.560 And they kind of do everything.

00:04:46.120 And they have podcasts.

00:04:46.860 And they do these big, glitzy summits.

00:04:49.040 And the organization's not starved for cash.

00:04:51.820 You can look at their charitable filings and find that they have, you know, millions and

00:04:56.080 millions of dollars just in payroll expenses alone, a huge staff of, I think, just shy

00:05:00.840 of 300.

00:05:02.140 And I'm like, why do they need a government handout to deliver a program that Canadians have

00:05:08.100 never really heard of?

00:05:09.380 Doesn't Canada already have a Canada Summer Jobs program?

00:05:12.040 Isn't that sort of the same idea behind, you know, having students and young people being

00:05:17.700 able to sort of volunteer through the government?

00:05:19.420 It's so weird to me, Andrew.

00:05:21.400 And the more we dig into this charity, the weirder it is.

00:05:25.500 There was a news story today about how the program offered 450 volunteer placements for

00:05:33.300 its own organization.

00:05:35.360 So there were 450 student volunteer placements within WE Charity.

00:05:39.460 And then there's this whole angle to it, which is that the charity itself claimed that the

00:05:50.040 prime minister's office contacted them directly about the $900 million grant program.

00:05:56.000 So a recorded conference call on June 12th revealed that the group's co-founder, Mark

00:06:03.240 Kielberger, told participants that the PMO had reached out to them a day after the grant

00:06:08.920 was announced.

00:06:10.320 And then he's since sort of recanted that.

00:06:13.100 So the National Post reported that he had said that.

00:06:17.820 And now he's saying that he misspoke.

00:06:20.640 And the prime minister's office is saying, no, we didn't reach out to him.

00:06:23.820 It was actually bureaucrats, civil servants from the Department of Employment and Social

00:06:31.600 Development Canada.

00:06:32.500 So there's a little bit of he said, she said going on here.

00:06:36.600 And I think overall, though, it's just a pretty embarrassing news story for the prime minister.

00:06:42.840 Yeah.

00:06:43.000 And I would also add to that, that this morning, the National Post asked Justin Trudeau if

00:06:47.960 he or anyone from the PMO reached out to Mark Kielberger.

00:06:52.460 And Trudeau's answer was kind of incomprehensible.

00:06:54.980 He said, quote, we knew from the beginning that because of work that has been ongoing between

00:06:59.780 this government and we, that this was a decision that needed to be made by our professional

00:07:04.100 public service.

00:07:05.380 They made the decision in a transparent and open way and in a rigorous way to ensure that

00:07:09.740 we had the right partnerships to move forward on this opportunity for young people.

00:07:13.680 We're going to continue to yada, yada, yada.

00:07:16.140 And then the closing platitude.

00:07:17.360 But he doesn't actually address the question of whether the PMO was involved in the PMO reach

00:07:22.100 forward.

00:07:22.540 He just claimed in a very vague way that the public service understood that this decision

00:07:27.900 had to be made.

00:07:28.980 But it doesn't really get to the root of whether the PMO was involved, whether Trudeau personally

00:07:34.260 was involved.

00:07:35.240 And that only confuses and muddles even further this flip flop from Kielberger himself.

00:07:41.880 Right.

00:07:42.480 That's a really good point.

00:07:43.420 When Justin Trudeau speaks, it's always hard to make out what exactly he means.

00:07:47.500 But when he gives a muddle response like that, you really have to feel like he's 0.95

00:07:52.080 hiding something.

00:07:52.960 Trudeau also said that this charity, which obviously has close ties to him and his family,

00:07:58.260 was the only organization capable of carrying out the purpose of this grant, which was to

00:08:04.060 create these jobs.

00:08:05.520 Well, I mean, it's just sort of bizarre that this charity would be supposedly the only ones

00:08:11.380 fit for the job to manage this grant.

00:08:14.440 When just a couple of months ago, there was a news report that came out that said that

00:08:18.820 we, charity, saw resignations and departures from senior ranks right before landing this

00:08:24.720 government contract.

00:08:25.540 There was a flurry of changes to the senior staff two months before the federal government

00:08:31.100 announced that they were going to be administering this multimillion dollar grant.

00:08:36.120 So how is it that an organization that can't even keep its own employees is supposedly the

00:08:41.820 only ones fit for this?

00:08:43.720 This is, again, just a pretty embarrassing bad news story for Justin Trudeau.

00:08:48.920 And you can sort of tell, by the way, that he doesn't provide clear answers to your point

00:08:53.360 and to that clip that we showed a moment ago that he's just sort of hoping this story

00:08:57.440 will go away. 0.71

00:08:58.160 And the idea of sole source contracts, they have a place, in some cases, the expediency

00:09:03.020 you can get from one of these outpaces the idea of an open and transparent bidding process

00:09:08.840 in rare circumstances.

00:09:10.900 But this should only be when the relationship between the people in the prime minister's

00:09:19.040 office or the government making the decision and the organization benefiting from this is

00:09:23.300 non-existent.

00:09:24.320 I mean, a sole source contract, which should be rare in the first place, should not even

00:09:28.200 be considered when there's a personal relationship between Justin Trudeau and the organization.

00:09:34.000 This would be to the Aga Khan Foundation, as far as I'm concerned.

00:09:37.000 And we know how that ended up when Justin Trudeau cozied up with the Aga Khan, even in a quote 0.62

00:09:41.760 unquote personal capacity a couple of years ago.

00:09:44.500 Right.

00:09:44.720 It's like, these people have no sense.

00:09:46.280 Like, what did they think was going to be the response by the public and the media when

00:09:49.980 this story came out?

00:09:50.780 Didn't anyone flag it as like, hey, this is a charity known as being close to Justin Trudeau.

00:09:56.100 Why?

00:09:56.760 Maybe we should think twice about the optics of giving them nearly a billion dollars of

00:10:00.960 taxpayer money.

00:10:01.840 I mean, it sort of feels like Justin Trudeau is treating the federal government like it's

00:10:06.820 his own personal piggy bank.

00:10:09.240 But, you know, I'm glad that he has at least reversed this and the charity has given back

00:10:15.400 the money.

00:10:15.640 Well, Andrew, it's Friday and on Fridays we do our live show, but we also like to interact

00:10:20.360 with our audience out there.

00:10:22.120 So if you're watching on Facebook, feel free to leave us a question in the comment section.

00:10:27.860 Andrew and I will do our best to get to your questions.

00:10:30.060 You can ask us anything that you want about the Canadian government, about Canada Day, about

00:10:35.640 the history, anything that you want.

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00:10:50.840 and maybe how you celebrated the national holiday, Dominion Day.

00:10:55.220 Well, Andrew, it looks like Justin Trudeau is finally getting tough on China after weeks

00:10:59.860 and weeks of just really, really sort of pacifist appeasement language.

00:11:04.780 Everything from his health minister, Patty Hajduk, saying that there's no reason not to trust

00:11:09.560 China on their data for coronavirus, even while China was changing its own data.

00:11:14.300 China didn't even trust its own data, but the Canadian government trusted it.

00:11:17.560 And then, you know, we had multiple instances where the foreign minister refused to even

00:11:23.460 mention Taiwan by name and Trudeau giving these sort of weird equivocal statements, not really

00:11:29.220 wanting to condemn China in any way.

00:11:30.860 Well, it sounds like the Canadian government is finally getting tough with China.

00:11:34.360 So they announced this week that they have restricted dealings with Hong Kong over the

00:11:38.900 new controversial Chinese security law that has been implemented.

00:11:42.980 So we finally see a little bit of a tough statement.

00:11:46.760 And Canada is sort of following in the footsteps of what the United States has done.

00:11:50.420 So it is suspending its extradition treaty with Hong Kong as part of the response.

00:11:56.100 In the statement, Francois-Philippe Champagne, who's Canada's foreign affairs minister,

00:12:00.520 says that Canada will also treat sensitive goods being exported to China if they're being

00:12:06.080 sent from China.

00:12:06.980 So Canada, the U.S. used to have a bunch of special relationship trade deals and tax treaties

00:12:12.860 and all that kind of stuff with Hong Kong.

00:12:15.080 Hong Kong is a separate political entity from China.

00:12:17.800 But as China continues to encroach onto Hong Kong and really undermine its standing as a free

00:12:24.820 economy and a free society, Canada is starting to treat Hong Kong war and war like China, which

00:12:29.620 is a good sign.

00:12:30.300 This is something that the international community must assert pressure onto China to stop them

00:12:35.820 from really their just blatant attempt to, again, just end, basically end and take away

00:12:43.540 a society that has flourished and been able to be free and prosperous.

00:12:47.360 So sad, definitely sad what's going on in Hong Kong.

00:12:49.960 But it's good to see finally a little bit of courage from Trudeau.

00:12:54.920 What do you think of this, Andrew?

00:12:56.040 Yeah, you know, Justin Trudeau often likes to speak about standing up for human rights

00:13:00.820 at home and abroad.

00:13:02.260 That's something we've heard more times than we can probably count in the last few years.

00:13:06.360 And you can't say that with any definitive credibility if you're not standing up for

00:13:12.320 Taiwan and Hong Kong, which exist as really the most significant backstops against the

00:13:17.860 tyranny of China and Chinese government overreach.

00:13:20.680 And you mentioned pacifism earlier as kind of a guiding force.

00:13:24.780 And I'd say there's at least a moral clarity to pacifism, whereas, you know, the true and

00:13:29.380 unbridled appeasement that we were seeing from Justin Trudeau did not come from any particular

00:13:33.980 ideological position or philosophical position.

00:13:36.740 But it was just a capitulation to China.

00:13:39.380 It was not wanting to tough talk, not wanting or not knowing how to do the tough talk, not wanting

00:13:45.160 to rock the boat, whatever the case may be.

00:13:47.300 But what did we get out of it?

00:13:49.020 What did Canada get out of it?

00:13:50.440 The answer is absolutely nothing.

00:13:52.320 But I'd say we probably went back a few steps because it proved that we are a country that

00:13:56.780 can be walked over.

00:13:58.600 And I mean, yes, standing up for the rule of law and letting the trial of Meng Wanzhou

00:14:02.540 continue is fine.

00:14:04.020 But it's not like as many of Justin Trudeau's defenders like to say that there was this elaborate

00:14:09.620 game of 3D or 4D chess going on and it had to do with PPE and it had to do with the two

00:14:14.940 Michaels and it had to do with all of these other things.

00:14:17.600 No, Canada has gone absolutely nothing from China, which if we did might make the whole

00:14:24.260 appeasement approach seem justifiable if it was a strategy.

00:14:27.580 But I don't think it has been a strategy.

00:14:29.680 So I think we should commend Justin Trudeau for doing the right thing, talking tough, following

00:14:34.280 up words with actions and all of this.

00:14:36.540 But there is still a question of why now and what changed.

00:14:40.340 Yeah.

00:14:40.580 Justin Trudeau playing 3D or 4D chess is pretty funny.

00:14:43.640 And even the idea of him doing something for moral or philosophical or ideological grounds,

00:14:49.060 I don't really think that Justin Trudeau has a lot of those.

00:14:51.960 But you're absolutely right that it wasn't pacifism because that would be coming from

00:14:57.200 sort of a good place and a clear place.

00:14:58.940 But this was really just a government showing its inability really to tango with a big superpower

00:15:05.800 on the world stage.

00:15:06.840 And you're right, I mean, Canada and China's diplomatic relations are like basically non-existent

00:15:13.320 at this point.

00:15:13.940 They're at an all-time low.

00:15:14.880 There's basically no communication, official communication between Canada and China.

00:15:19.220 So you look back at months and months, if not years, of just weird Canadian statements,

00:15:24.680 you know, praising and groveling to China.

00:15:27.780 And you have to wonder, like, what was it all for?

00:15:30.300 And what did Canada get out of it?

00:15:31.860 At least you could say with the Harper government, at times they were very undiplomatic because,

00:15:38.640 you know, they believed in things.

00:15:40.460 And sometimes that led to frayed relations with countries.

00:15:43.420 But they did it because of what they believed that Canada's role should be on the world stage,

00:15:48.480 which is to sort of be an exemplar and someone who pushes freedom and the rule of law.

00:15:54.040 Whereas Trudeau doesn't really do that.

00:15:55.640 But then he also, you know, doesn't really have good relationships with these corrupt

00:16:00.300 communist nations that you could argue that his father, Pierre, did.

00:16:03.640 So Trudeau is sort of the worst of both worlds when it comes to national policy.

00:16:07.520 But we can unpack a little bit what this new national security law is and how it's going

00:16:13.760 to fundamentally change Hong Kong.

00:16:15.880 Because there's been a number of protests over the years, over recent years in Hong Kong.

00:16:21.200 You recall a couple of years ago, there was something called the Umbrella Revolution,

00:16:24.400 where protesters, up to a million protesters, blocked a main freeway in Hong Kong.

00:16:30.460 They used umbrellas to sort of block themselves from pepper spray and police, you know, shooting

00:16:36.520 rubber bullets, but also to protect their identities because there's such a fear in Hong Kong that

00:16:41.480 the Chinese government is going to come after people.

00:16:44.260 At that point, they were just protesting China's involvement in local elections.

00:16:49.380 China wanted to be able to sort of vet candidates before they could be listed as a candidate.

00:16:54.400 In the local elections in Hong Kong, that was sort of the start of it.

00:16:59.120 Then there was sort of, you know, every year there's new encroachments by the Chinese government 0.78

00:17:03.640 over freedom.

00:17:05.120 And this one, the national security law, is basically saying that China's going to have

00:17:09.460 a full-time presence in Hong Kong to sort of supposedly keep the peace.

00:17:13.880 But obviously, Hong Kong residents worry that this is going to mean that, you know, they don't

00:17:18.040 actually have their free society anymore.

00:17:20.100 Essentially, that the Chinese government is moving in and imposing all of their draconian 0.99

00:17:24.160 communist authoritarian laws.

00:17:26.280 So pretty, pretty scary times in Hong Kong.

00:17:29.060 And it is sad to see that happen.

00:17:31.500 I want to also mention this, this story, Andrew.

00:17:33.700 The U.S. Senate passed a bill to sanction Chinese officials over Hong Kong.

00:17:38.320 And this was something that had unanimous approval in the Senate.

00:17:42.560 I didn't even think that those words were possible in the U.S.

00:17:45.180 You know, all we ever hear is gridlock and how Democrats and Republicans might as well

00:17:48.700 be from two different countries because they don't agree on anything.

00:17:51.320 Well, remarkably, when it comes to standing up for Hong Kong's freedom and autonomy, that

00:17:56.500 is something that unites the left and the right in the United States.

00:18:00.640 Well, let's hope that that can be something that we can rally upon and there could be unity

00:18:04.580 about in Canada.

00:18:06.440 What do you make of all this, Andrew?

00:18:08.160 Yeah, I think you're right.

00:18:09.420 I mean, any time, especially in the era of Trump, if you can get Democrats and Republicans

00:18:13.940 in the U.S. Senate to come together, it means that, you know, either A, the world is ending

00:18:18.420 or, in fact, there's just something that is just so ironclad as the right thing that

00:18:22.940 there's no political maneuvering needed because it's just clear.

00:18:26.300 And I think that tough talk on China, tough action on China is definitely an example of

00:18:31.220 that.

00:18:31.760 And when you mention the international aspect here, I've got to bring up this question

00:18:35.700 that Ray poses to us in the chat.

00:18:38.120 He says, are the liberals getting tougher on China only because they're sore from losing

00:18:42.940 the U.N. seat?

00:18:43.980 What do you think about that one?

00:18:46.360 Yeah, it's possible.

00:18:47.420 You know, it seemed like the U.N. Security Council seat, Ray, was such a primary focus

00:18:53.280 of the Trudeau government.

00:18:54.440 Like, literally for the last five years, everything Justin Trudeau does, in my opinion, on the

00:18:58.800 world stage has been with his eyes set on winning that illustrious United Nations seat.

00:19:04.180 It's all he cares about.

00:19:05.040 He cares about the United Nations probably more than Canada. 0.77

00:19:06.980 And so now that it's lost, it's like, OK, well, I guess we don't have to suck up to 0.94

00:19:13.080 China anymore. 0.65

00:19:14.300 So I think maybe you're right.

00:19:15.820 Maybe now that that seat is no longer a possibility, we'll start to see some more courage from the

00:19:22.640 Trudeau government.

00:19:24.300 Yeah.

00:19:24.640 And I do think that there has been for years a greater interest from Trudeau in speaking

00:19:30.560 out against the U.S. than about China at any given point.

00:19:34.020 I mean, I think we've heard actually more criticism of Trudeau towards Donald Trump and Trump

00:19:38.820 policies than of China up until the last couple of weeks.

00:19:41.580 And I guess in that sense, I mean, the U.S. is very low hanging fruit because they're getting,

00:19:46.600 you know, picked on, for lack of a term, by a lot of countries all around the world.

00:19:51.040 And the international community loves just treating the U.S. as a punching bag, whereas

00:19:55.140 China is this unspoken behemoth in the room. 0.97

00:19:59.120 And that's got to change.

00:20:00.780 And it is changing now, thankfully.

00:20:02.580 I mean, my hope from the Trudeau perspective is that it will last and it won't just be this

00:20:06.880 little blip, this little, you know, temporary confidence.

00:20:11.200 I hope it's something that really starts to become a fixture in Canadian foreign policy,

00:20:15.800 regardless of Trudeau.

00:20:17.780 Yeah, I hope so, too.

00:20:18.820 And, you know, just a small note to anyone who tries to draw any kind of equivalency between

00:20:24.140 the United States and China.

00:20:25.520 Just keep in mind, China has one million religious minorities interned in camps, in concentration

00:20:31.980 camps in China right now that barely hear anything about it.

00:20:36.880 At the same time, you know, what's the worst thing you can say about Trump?

00:20:40.220 You know, sometimes he issues clunky executive orders that aren't very thoroughly thought through.

00:20:44.940 But at the end of the day, you know, there are millions and millions of people trying to

00:20:48.680 get into the United States because they want to live in free America at the same time as

00:20:54.040 people are being held in the absolute most brutal conditions imaginable today in 2020.

00:21:00.420 You know, we think of concentration camps as a horrible stain on the 20th century.

00:21:05.320 And yet they're happening again, and there's not a lot of people speaking out about them

00:21:10.080 just because it's a lot easier, like you said, it's slow-hanging fruit to mock Donald Trump.

00:21:15.000 There's truly evil governments and regimes out there.

00:21:17.840 China is one of them. 0.73

00:21:19.220 So we should always keep that in mind.

00:21:21.180 Well, Andrew, just to change gears a little bit, seems like public officials in Canada

00:21:25.260 suddenly care about the coronavirus again.

00:21:27.580 So after about a month of, you know, a bunch of officials just saying, hey, everybody can

00:21:32.680 protest, but just, you know, make sure you're protesting the right causes, we're back to

00:21:37.680 lectures and shaming from city officials and also from Canadians who don't like people exercising

00:21:44.740 their freedom.

00:21:45.480 So the Toronto City Council has voted to make masks mandatory indoors.

00:21:51.820 That's interesting because, you know, I feel like there's still no consensus on masks.

00:21:55.900 You still hear so many things.

00:21:58.240 And again, I mentioned this on last week's show, but I mean, I don't know how this is

00:22:02.440 enforceable.

00:22:03.700 You know, I tried to get my one and a half year old son to wear a mask because we went

00:22:08.120 shopping and that was just total disaster.

00:22:10.680 You can't get kids to wear these masks, especially when it's so hot outside.

00:22:13.580 So, you know, when you're going in and out of stores or whatever, I can't imagine how this

00:22:18.440 new bylaw is going to be in effect.

00:22:21.280 And I don't really think that there's a good consensus.

00:22:23.440 I think if you want to wear a mask, you should for your own protection.

00:22:26.200 But trying to enforce that on other people, you know, some people have difficulty breathing.

00:22:32.200 You know, they need to be able to have fresh air.

00:22:34.640 So the idea that you would enforce this is just really bizarre.

00:22:38.800 This story just makes me laugh because it's so absurd.

00:22:42.280 So there was a popular Ontario beach that has been partially closed after what officials

00:22:48.320 say on Canada Day displayed, this is a quote, human behavior at its worst, Andrew.

00:22:55.980 So human behavior as where you kind of think about all the horrible, horrible things that

00:23:01.500 happen in the world and that have happened throughout history.

00:23:04.120 And here we have supposed human behavior as worse.

00:23:07.640 What what what did they do?

00:23:09.340 What did they do? 0.98

00:23:09.880 Oh, they failed to comply with these ridiculous bylaws. 0.99

00:23:13.100 Andrew, human behavior is worse, apparently. 0.95

00:23:15.640 That was the rampant debauchery, not complying with municipal ordinances.

00:23:19.880 Yeah, I tried to look and see, you know, what were they doing?

00:23:22.480 You know, what kind of horrible things were these Canadians doing on Canada Day at the beach? 0.99

00:23:27.380 Well, apparently they were just in large crowds.

00:23:30.080 They were in large crowds.

00:23:31.400 The horror, the humanity, Andrew.

00:23:33.480 Can you believe it?

00:23:34.600 People celebrating Canada Day, you know, holding Black Lives Matter signs on the beach.

00:23:38.640 And that means that there would have been no risk whatsoever.

00:23:40.880 I just can't get over that line.

00:23:44.440 Human behavior at its worst.

00:23:47.260 A bunch of Canadians celebrating Canada Day. 0.62

00:23:50.440 How horrible.

00:23:51.960 Yeah, it's funny, though, because it's the moving goalposts typically move in one direction.

00:23:57.280 In the last couple of weeks, they're moving in different directions by the day.

00:24:01.300 Right.

00:24:01.780 I mean, it's so so all over the place. 0.98

00:24:03.740 And this is just a reminder that all of these people are total hypocrites, because in 0.94

00:24:07.860 the past few weeks, and we'll just go through a couple of them, the Calgary police chief 0.92

00:24:11.960 and the mayor, Mayor Nahid Nenshi, said that they were proud of the way that Calgarians

00:24:17.940 came together to protest for the Black Lives Matter protests.

00:24:21.180 He says that he doesn't have all the answers, but he continues to fight for human rights and

00:24:26.220 the need to speak up.

00:24:27.260 He said, this is Mayor Nenshi of Calgary.

00:24:29.420 Thank you for being peaceful.

00:24:30.520 Thank you for standing up positively to the rights of yourself and each other.

00:24:35.720 This is a real chance for Canadians to acknowledge the very real racism, personal and systemic,

00:24:41.320 that still exists in this country.

00:24:42.800 So, again, as long as you're protesting a righteous cause, you can be outside all you

00:24:48.260 want.

00:24:48.540 John Tory here in Toronto basically said the same thing.

00:24:51.380 He said the series of peaceful protests in the city has motivated him and other officials

00:24:56.900 to work harder to eliminate systemic racism in Toronto.

00:24:59.740 This is John Tory, Mayor of Toronto, saying, we know that anti-Black racism and racism on

00:25:04.900 a number of fronts is still a significant issue here.

00:25:07.700 As far as we've come, this message has been heard loud and clear.

00:25:12.100 So there were thousands of people gathered in downtown Toronto in really close proximity.

00:25:16.160 They were all shouting.

00:25:17.240 They were all waving their signs.

00:25:19.600 They weren't all wearing masks.

00:25:21.140 That was totally OK.

00:25:22.200 That was OK, Andrew.

00:25:23.420 But, you know, when those same Canadians, or maybe there are different Canadians, I don't

00:25:26.880 know, but when they went to the beach, that was human behaviour at its worst. 0.91

00:25:30.780 The Nenshi one is particularly hypocritical because this week the city of Calgary was prepared 0.65

00:25:35.680 to shut down any Canada Day gatherings.

00:25:38.260 The city's official Twitter account said they were going to make sure that anything over 200

00:25:43.220 people couldn't happen.

00:25:44.740 But thousands of people is fine as long as they have the right moral cause.

00:25:48.020 Well, that's the lesson that we've learned that, you know, if it weren't for double

00:25:53.440 standards, Canadian officials would have no standards at all.

00:25:57.620 Yeah, a lot of these people, they need two masks to cover both their faces at the same

00:26:01.260 time.

00:26:02.980 Absolutely.

00:26:03.620 All right.

00:26:03.780 We got another question, Andrew.

00:26:04.940 This one comes from Rory.

00:26:06.720 He says, with everyone that walked across the border, how will Canada deal with the job 1.00

00:26:10.500 issue?

00:26:10.900 When the economy does come back and the companies use those under-the-table workers, how will 1.00

00:26:16.900 Canada take jobs back?

00:26:18.740 Will we deport them?

00:26:20.800 What kind of statement does that make?

00:26:22.400 Well, no, I doubt we'll deport.

00:26:24.440 Canada's, like, horrible at deporting.

00:26:26.000 I think we deport, like, 10 people a year.

00:26:27.560 So, you know, for the thousands of people that come to the country, not very good. 1.00

00:26:31.180 But what do you think about that job issue?

00:26:34.000 How can we reconcile that?

00:26:35.340 Well, my approach on the employment front here has been the temporary foreign worker

00:26:40.220 program, which we've talked about, which I think, by and large, is a program that has

00:26:43.980 value in Canada, that clearly, I mean, there are a lot of jobs that people can't fill with

00:26:48.800 Canadian labor.

00:26:49.880 But in the last few months, that's very much a different priority, I think, because we

00:26:55.100 have 8 million Canadians at one point that had applied for CERB.

00:26:58.860 So you had millions of Canadians that were out of work, yet still, TFWs were coming in to

00:27:03.700 do a lot of labor, whereas I was thinking, OK, you know, I get year-round that maybe you

00:27:08.280 can't find the laborers here, but are we not able to find, in the economic circumstances

00:27:13.620 we're dealing with now, jobs that we can give to Canadians who are out of work?

00:27:17.520 And the problem right now that we're facing is that a lot of Canadians don't want to go

00:27:20.880 back to work.

00:27:21.960 The programs from the government have been structured in such a way that it doesn't

00:27:26.040 actually, in some cases, make financial sense to return to work.

00:27:30.180 You can make as much money, or in some cases, more by staying home and doing nothing without

00:27:34.880 the hassle of actually carrying a job.

00:27:37.260 So I know that doesn't address illegal immigration specifically, but will we need to have an economic

00:27:42.140 climate in Canada where there are jobs for Canadians, and more importantly, a cultural

00:27:46.480 atmosphere where people are not choosing not to work because that's just as easy a path

00:27:51.800 as working?

00:27:53.020 Yeah, I mean, you're right about the CERB because CERB is federally handed out, and it doesn't

00:27:59.040 even really matter what income you were making before.

00:28:03.380 In some cases, you could even be receiving provincial welfare and still be getting CERB.

00:28:08.340 So you're right about making more money than you'd make out there.

00:28:11.540 I kind of disagree, Andrew.

00:28:12.940 I think that the temporary foreign worker program goes against the core spirit of Canada's

00:28:18.260 immigration program.

00:28:19.460 Canada's successful in its immigration program because it's so welcoming.

00:28:23.520 So having a program where we bring people into our country, but we don't extend a path 0.99

00:28:27.800 to citizenship.

00:28:28.660 So we say, you know, you can come here, you know, you can work for cheap labor, and then

00:28:32.900 you got to go.

00:28:33.820 I think that goes against the spirit.

00:28:36.440 One of my biggest critiques in the U.S. is that they have people who come to the U.S. 1.00

00:28:41.400 with these H-1B visas and other visas.

00:28:43.680 They're there legally.

00:28:45.140 They're there according to the law.

00:28:46.860 But they have no pathway to citizenship.

00:28:49.640 So you have people who spend 20, 30 years of their life working in the American economy,

00:28:53.400 becoming American, essentially.

00:28:54.720 They're there because they love America, and yet they can't become citizens.

00:28:58.100 They can't join fully the community.

00:28:59.900 I don't think Canada should have those kind of programs.

00:29:02.160 And the fact that we do have this temporary foreign worker program, I just don't think

00:29:07.820 that it's the right program for Canada.

00:29:09.820 I prefer to see programs where we have pathways to citizenship.

00:29:13.540 I think that those programs should be smaller as well because we can't even integrate the

00:29:18.020 people who do come to Canada.

00:29:19.240 But maybe that's a conversation for a different day.

00:29:22.780 But I definitely think that bringing people in at this point when there's so many unemployed

00:29:27.560 Canadians just makes no sense whatsoever.

00:29:30.420 So thank you for that question.

00:29:32.420 This is a crazy story, Andrew.

00:29:34.260 Man was arrested at Rideau Hall.

00:29:37.360 So we're learning more about this story, but there's still not a lot of information out

00:29:41.840 there.

00:29:42.080 A member of the Canadian Armed Forces, a ranger from Manitoba, was arrested after roaming

00:29:47.660 the grounds of Trudeau's residence with three weapons.

00:29:51.580 So what do we know about this story so far, Andrew?

00:29:56.060 Well, not a lot.

00:29:57.540 I mean, we only just got confirmation of the suspect who's been arrested and charged this

00:30:03.220 morning.

00:30:03.600 And he's been identified, as you mentioned, Candace, as a Canadian Forces ranger.

00:30:08.720 And what happened was we saw the photos of this.

00:30:11.740 The gate, the pedestrian gate of Rideau Hall was rammed with a pickup truck.

00:30:17.100 Someone was wandering around for several minutes before being arrested.

00:30:21.120 No one was injured, facing multiple charges now.

00:30:24.300 But police have not, as far as I've seen anyway, released exactly which charges.

00:30:28.900 My concern with this is that we just don't know.

00:30:32.900 I mean, a lot of the media was focused on the fact that, you know, Justin Trudeau's

00:30:36.360 family is living at Rideau Cottage, which is on Rideau Hall.

00:30:39.080 It's also the official residence of Governor General Julie Payette.

00:30:43.120 Now, as it so happens, neither Payette nor Trudeau was at their official main residences

00:30:48.840 on the morning when this happened.

00:30:50.720 So perhaps Trudeau and his family were at Harrington Lake.

00:30:53.660 I don't know.

00:30:54.780 But, you know, there's never, in my view, an excuse for anything like this.

00:31:00.460 And I find it to be very upsetting when we have situations like this that happen in Canada.

00:31:05.320 You know, this had a different outcome, of course, than what happened on Parliament Hill

00:31:09.280 in 2014 when Nathan Cirilla was killed.

00:31:11.980 But all of these situations should give us pause to question and evaluate, OK, what security

00:31:17.200 mechanisms didn't work that allowed this person to just wander around on these grounds

00:31:22.360 armed?

00:31:23.700 Absolutely. 0.98

00:31:24.060 I think Justin Trudeau is a pretty horrible prime minister.

00:31:27.400 But the fact that something like this would happen to the prime minister of Canada is completely

00:31:32.020 unacceptable.

00:31:32.840 It's scary.

00:31:33.620 You know, my thoughts and prayers are with the Trudeau family.

00:31:36.040 And I'm glad that they're OK.

00:31:37.440 I truly am.

00:31:38.700 But the security concerns you're raising are absolutely correct.

00:31:41.700 I mean, this is just mind boggling.

00:31:43.640 This individual was able to ram through the gates at Rideau Hall.

00:31:47.380 And then he was on the loose on the ground for 13 minutes carrying a gun before he was

00:31:53.560 obtained by the RCMP.

00:31:55.680 Can you imagine, Andrew, if this happened at the White House, if an armed individual

00:32:01.340 rammed through the gates of the White House?

00:32:04.440 I mean, I hate to say it, but he would have been shot on the spot.

00:32:08.160 Well, not even not even in in in the United States, but even at the U.S.

00:32:12.220 embassy just down the road in Ottawa, you couldn't get away with this and have 13 minutes of life

00:32:17.460 left in you after you initially hit that.

00:32:19.280 Yeah, it's wild.

00:32:20.420 So I think that hopefully this will give the RCMP an opportunity to reflect upon its security

00:32:26.480 procedures and really work on that, because, look, I like the fact that Canada is a pretty

00:32:32.460 open, safe country.

00:32:33.500 Sometimes, you know, when I lived in Ottawa, it was when Harper was prime minister.

00:32:37.280 And sometimes you'd see him walking around on the streets.

00:32:39.260 And that was kind of cool that he didn't have this huge, big entourage and that the way

00:32:43.720 that you see in a lot of these other countries where, you know, I've been to New York City

00:32:48.500 during the week where the General Assembly meets and you have these ridiculous caravans

00:32:54.880 with like 40 black SUVs for like some low level diplomat.

00:33:00.100 Like the deputy undersecretary to the assistant attorney.

00:33:03.280 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:04.180 And I like that Canada has a more open attitude, but it is completely unacceptable that someone

00:33:09.080 would have the ability to get onto the grounds where the prime minister and his family live

00:33:13.720 and roam around with a gun for 13 minutes.

00:33:15.920 That is not acceptable.

00:33:18.400 Well, Andrew, we've got a lot of good news.

00:33:20.900 You know, when we first created the True North update, we always wanted to end the show on a

00:33:25.300 positive note.

00:33:25.980 And sometimes it was hard to find because we were just talking about coronavirus and the

00:33:29.400 lockdown and the misery and all the horrible things that were happening.

00:33:32.180 You would have to spend a bunch of time just trying to find one good news story.

00:33:35.760 Well, this is great because we've got quite a few good news stories.

00:33:40.240 So the first one is about our friend Don Cherry, the Canadian icon.

00:33:45.180 He announced that he will be selling his suits.

00:33:49.120 You know, Don Cherry, one of the things that he's so known for is his very flamboyant, very

00:33:54.120 colorful suits that he would have created for his appearances on Hockey Night in Canada.

00:33:59.900 So those iconic suits are getting auctioned off.

00:34:02.980 It's going to a good cause to fund animal rescue initiatives.

00:34:06.400 We all know that Don Cherry is a huge animal lover and a pet lover.

00:34:11.320 So it's great to see him working for a good cause.

00:34:14.300 And if you, what do you think, Andrew?

00:34:16.220 Why don't you, why don't you put a bid in and get one of those colorful shirts so you

00:34:19.720 can start wearing?

00:34:20.220 Yeah, I don't know.

00:34:20.760 I might need a True North credit card.

00:34:22.240 I'm looking at some of them now and the bidding starts at $2,500.

00:34:25.400 So, uh, but there are some nice design.

00:34:28.260 Yeah.

00:34:28.560 Well, I mean, I think it would be just a great conversation piece if you were, if you're

00:34:33.460 going to a party or something like that, you could.

00:34:35.480 Yeah.

00:34:35.600 I don't know if he's my size, but maybe I can buy two of them and sew them together and

00:34:39.260 we'll see.

00:34:39.880 We actually had a question from Rob earlier in the show.

00:34:42.900 He didn't know we were going to mention this.

00:34:44.280 And he says, when are, when is Don Cherry going to be on the show?

00:34:47.160 Uh, we might have to have him on as a guest co-host at some point.

00:34:49.600 That would be a, that would be really fun, Andrew.

00:34:51.460 But he won't have anything to wear anymore.

00:34:54.040 Yeah.

00:34:54.360 How will you know it's Don Cherry if he's not wearing, if he's not wearing these.

00:34:57.780 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:34:58.320 He'll just be wearing like an old off the rack suit from Morris.

00:35:01.580 But, uh, in all seriousness, I know we, we did a petition and we were, you know, we had

00:35:06.560 Don Cherry's back when he was unfairly, uh, removed from hockey night in Canada.

00:35:10.340 We were definitely in, in communication with him.

00:35:12.380 So I think this is something that we should definitely, definitely do and have, uh, have

00:35:17.880 Don Cherry on the show.

00:35:18.660 Well, the next good news story, Andrew, if you can walk us through this, it seems like

00:35:22.060 the Seattle police have finally come to their senses and they have decided to get rid of

00:35:27.600 Chop or Chaz or whatever they're, you know, the fledgling independent nation of, uh, protesters, 0.87

00:35:33.740 of Antigua protesters in Seattle is finally coming to an end.

00:35:37.380 Yeah.

00:35:37.540 I mean, I think what jumped out at me is that if you have a coup d'etat in Seattle, it sounds

00:35:41.940 like the name of some upstart hipster hair salon, you know, Chaz and Chop and all of these

00:35:46.500 places, but, uh, this, I don't even know if it's completely good news or just the long

00:35:50.720 overdue duh news.

00:35:52.180 Uh, but either way, it sounds like the reign of the Seattle, uh, demilitarized anti-police

00:35:58.340 zone, uh, warlord has come to an end, uh, after a number of cases of people being very seriously

00:36:05.720 injured, businesses being shut down and police not responding.

00:36:08.420 It sounds like this, uh, you know, little 16 blocks has, has had the rule of law and,

00:36:13.520 uh, the, uh, basically, I mean, just basic fundamental, uh, order restored to it.

00:36:18.840 Well, congratulations to the people of Seattle.

00:36:20.840 You know, it goes to our point that we were talking about earlier that you can protest as

00:36:24.280 long as you're, you can be out in public and you won't get criticized as long as you're

00:36:27.780 pushing for a righteous cause.

00:36:29.060 Well, apparently if you're, if you're like a far left deranged protester, you can get away

00:36:33.320 with a heck of a lot because, you know, I can't believe that it lasted, uh, almost a

00:36:38.800 month.

00:36:39.260 They were able to maintain this, this occupied territory.

00:36:43.240 People were shot.

00:36:44.460 At least two people were killed.

00:36:46.160 There were nightly reports of everything from assault to rape to, you know, theft, everything.

00:36:52.200 And it was totally wild that the, that the, uh, officials out there in Seattle just sort

00:36:57.800 of treated these left-wing protesters with kid gloves.

00:37:00.520 But, uh, you know, again, once again, Andrew, it's the theme of the show.

00:37:04.280 If there, if it wasn't for a double standards, these officials would have no standards at

00:37:08.240 all.

00:37:08.540 Well, let's move on to the next story.

00:37:09.780 You found this one, Andrew.

00:37:10.780 So I'll, I'll let you, uh, I'll let you walk us through it.

00:37:13.500 Walk us through it.

00:37:14.480 Yeah.

00:37:14.740 I don't even know if it's a story so much as just an image.

00:37:18.120 They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

00:37:20.160 So, uh, let me roll this brief clip for you.

00:37:22.800 Hey friends, I want to wish you all a happy Calgary Stampede.

00:37:26.540 I know that it's really tough not being able to come together and celebrate and

00:37:30.440 Calgary Stampede is such a big part of the summer, such a big part of Calgary and, and,

00:37:34.960 and Alberta and all of Western Canada and Canada in general.

00:37:38.420 It's a incredible celebration, a celebration of history and the culture of Western Canada.

00:37:45.240 We are definitely going to do this again.

00:37:46.780 And I look forward to being there with you in person next year, but we'll keep the spirits

00:37:50.780 alive, happy Calgary Stampede.

00:37:53.000 And I'll see you there next year.

00:37:57.520 So there's a lot to unpack here.

00:37:59.600 Firstly, uh, there is no Stampede.

00:38:01.920 So it's just this lamentation that I think a lot of people have, uh, myself included,

00:38:06.240 because I've never actually been to the Stampede.

00:38:07.700 I keep wanting to go and I've never made it out that this thing has to have been moved online.

00:38:11.840 Uh, secondly, there is like the politicians that you get every year of all party stripes

00:38:16.060 that pretend to, you know, have any sort of rural root connection.

00:38:19.620 Uh, and, uh, in this particular case, uh, the, the real giveaway, the Jagmeet Singh does

00:38:25.080 not belong is the boots.

00:38:27.020 Yes.

00:38:27.260 Those are, uh, all the Albertans I know have probably just like almost had aneurysm seeing

00:38:31.640 that, uh, pant legs tucked into the boot, uh, which for a gentleman is not the way you

00:38:37.500 wear a cowboy boot.

00:38:38.280 It's, it's, uh, you know, even worse I'd say than when we see people who put their cowboy

00:38:41.960 hats on backwards.

00:38:42.920 And I say, this is someone who, who grew up in a city, uh, you know, Candace, uh, is

00:38:47.700 this like, uh, points for trying situation or just a go home and don't even bother situation?

00:38:53.240 Well, Singh is known as a guy with like a Rolex collection, right?

00:38:56.080 He's like the complete opposite embodiment.

00:38:58.740 He's a, he's a sophisticated urban elite who wears bespoke suits and, and has, you know,

00:39:04.420 fancy watch collection.

00:39:05.480 So, uh, I, I guess nice try, but I think that that image is going to be burned into the eyeballs

00:39:11.820 of, of many, a Calgarian who, who is going to, you know, never, never find, uh, anything

00:39:17.860 that Jagmeet Singh says to be authentic after seeing that.

00:39:20.820 And, you know, Andrew, it reminds me, I'm pretty sure, correct me if I'm wrong, pretty

00:39:23.940 sure the first time I ever met you, you were wearing a cowboy hat.

00:39:27.220 I think it was at the Manning conference like a decade ago.

00:39:29.400 That sounds right.

00:39:30.100 And I, and I think you used to sport the cowboy hat back in those days.

00:39:33.100 I did.

00:39:33.420 And the boots and I always wore them properly.

00:39:35.080 Well, there you go.

00:39:36.100 The city boy from Ontario, uh, knows, knows how to wear the cowboy outfit, but, uh, Jagmeet 1.00

00:39:41.300 Singh, who's from BC has, has no idea.

00:39:43.700 Well, uh, last story, this is just sort of a shout out because this is a special week.

00:39:47.740 It was Canada day or dominion day as I like to call it.

00:39:50.540 You know, it was known as dominion day for the first 120 years.

00:39:53.740 Canada was officially country.

00:39:55.140 Uh, Pierre Trudeau, Justin Trudeau's father changed that in 1982 because he wanted, I think

00:40:01.680 in an attempt to sort of, uh, bury away Canada's traditions and the symbolism of old Canada

00:40:07.940 and create this sort of new Canada.

00:40:09.380 So I, I like to call it dominion day that fell on Wednesday.

00:40:12.260 And then we have the 4th of July on Friday.

00:40:14.880 I think this is a great moment, you know, in, in all the craziness that's been going on

00:40:18.960 in the world, both with the coronavirus and then these black lives matter protests where 0.85

00:40:23.540 really you have people trying to attack the fabric of our free society, the very foundation.

00:40:29.240 It's good to just take a pause and, and, and remember that we actually live in these great

00:40:34.580 bastions of freedom and the rule of law and democracy.

00:40:37.900 And even though things aren't always perfect, and like I said, there's always things to

00:40:41.880 criticize when it comes to our governments and try to improve, uh, we, we should take

00:40:45.580 a step back and just remember how, how grateful and lucky we are, show some gratitude, uh, to

00:40:51.200 the fact that we live in these remarkable countries.

00:40:53.040 I think Canada is the best country to live in, in the world.

00:40:55.680 Well, I think America is probably the greatest force for good, at least in the last century.

00:41:00.920 Um, perhaps one of the greatest forces for good in the world, in all of human history,

00:41:05.020 one of the top, one of the few, um, great, great countries, uh, in, in, in, in, in world

00:41:10.440 history.

00:41:11.440 So I think, I think it's great, uh, to criticize, but also we should show some gratitude and

00:41:15.660 celebrate, uh, the fact that we, uh, you know, live in Canada, which is a great country.

00:41:19.720 We're, we're blessed to be neighbors and friends and allies with America who has been this amazing

00:41:24.780 beacon of, of freedom and liberty, uh, and, and opportunity and equality and justice and

00:41:29.320 all these other great things.

00:41:30.160 So, so let's just, let's just keep things in perspective, everybody, and show a little

00:41:33.820 bit of gratitude.

00:41:34.420 Well, Andrew, thanks for, uh, joining me and co-hosting this show.

00:41:38.220 Uh, it's been fun and we will be back again next week.

00:41:41.660 Absolutely.

The Candice Malcolm Show - July 03, 2020

Trudeau gives $900 million to his friends and is forced to take it back

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