The Candice Malcolm Show - Trudeau's latest attempt to CENSOR you

00:00:00.000 The Trudeau government has unveiled new legislation to crack down on so-called hate speech, or to be more accurate, as Pierre Polyev said, speech that Trudeau hates.

00:00:10.500 All of this is being done under the guise of protecting children. We'll break it all down on the show for you today. I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

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00:00:44.200 Okay, so here it is. The government finally introduced its Online Harms Act. We've been hearing about this bill. It's been floated around. It's been discussed for several years now, and it finally came to us.

00:00:54.940 It was tabled on Monday by Justice Minister Arif Varani in the House of Commons. The bill is called the Online Harms Act, also known as Bill C-63, and the bill basically has three aims that it is trying to accomplish.

00:01:10.900 This is what the digital backgrounder said. It said the Online Harms Bill will, one, reduce exposure to harmful online content. How on earth are they going to do that?

00:01:21.560 I mean, honestly, think about your day online, people who are very online, spend a lot of time on the internet. There's lots of things that we might see that are harmful, that we don't like, that make us feel unhappy.

00:01:32.840 That's kind of what the internet is. And so the idea that somehow the government is going to make this go away and reduce exposure to harmful content, the only way that they could possibly do that is through censorship, is by trying to control and meddle with these big tech companies and these platforms, which is what they're proposing to do with the Online Harms Act.

00:01:52.080 And we'll get through the details of that later in the show. So one, reduced exposure to harmful online content. Two, better address and denounce hate propaganda and provide recourse to victims of hate.

00:02:04.560 Again, how on earth are they going to address and denounce hate propaganda? We don't even know what they mean by hate propaganda.

00:02:11.780 Like what on earth is hate propaganda? Promoting hate? Lying and promoting hate? The problem is the government just doesn't define this stuff.

00:02:20.360 We actually don't know what they're talking about. And that is where the fear lies, because it's all about who's imposing this, which vindictive bureaucrats, which vindictive liberal staffers, which vindictive prime minister is going to use this as a tool to basically silence opposition, silence criticism.

00:02:39.660 So that is the second component of this bill, better address and denounce hate propaganda. And that's done through amendments to the Criminal Code and the Canadian Human Rights Act.

00:02:49.760 And then third, which is something I think that every Canadian can get behind, is strengthening reporting of child pornography.

00:02:55.840 And this is done through amendments to reporting law.

00:02:59.320 This is the third one is the one that the Liberals, in their communication of this bill, really leaned in on.

00:03:05.840 So this is what they talked about. This is what they emphasized. This is what they led with.

00:03:09.360 They said, you know, this is all about protecting children. This is all about stopping child pornography, which, again, is something that I believe that every Canadian agrees with.

00:03:17.400 And this is where the Liberals kind of get smart. They're cute about it.

00:03:21.520 They pretend that this is all just about protecting children.

00:03:23.620 And then they kind of sneak in the other components, the online censorship components, the reporting components, the fines for things that Canadians potentially could have to pay up to $70,000 in fines for things that, that, again, loosely defined terms like hate speech and hate propaganda.

00:03:42.600 So let's go through a little more detail. New Online Harms Act.

00:03:47.080 The objectives are to reduce exposure to harmful content and empower support users, put in place special protections for children, make online services accountable for and transparent about how they are reducing exposure to harmful content.

00:04:01.500 And it says services covered social media services, live stream services, and user uploaded adult content services.

00:04:07.400 So, again, you notice it's not just about Pornhub. It's not just about OnlyFans. It's not just about adult content.

00:04:12.460 They also include social media services and live streaming services.

00:04:17.260 So if you were just sort of reading about this bill or you heard a little bit about it, you would say, OK, focus on protecting children from child porn and other sort of predatory aspects that they could get caught up in.

00:04:29.720 But then Trudeau's, you know, he's sneaky, right? He's sneaky. And he just adds in social media services and live streaming services as well.

00:04:37.660 So that captures not just things related to child pornography, but also, to quote Pierre Polyev, things that Trudeau hates.

00:04:46.500 So journalism that Trudeau hates, content that he hates, stories that he hates.

00:04:50.500 I mean, we don't know exactly what's going to be included in this, but this is the major concern that they included that social media services and live streaming.

00:04:59.940 And so back to this briefing document, it says seven categories of harmful content.

00:05:04.660 And you can see how sneaky they are in adding and just expanding what this thing is all about.

00:05:11.700 So you can see the first one there, content that sexually victimizes a child.

00:05:14.580 Again, every Canadian can get behind that. Every Canadian agrees.

00:05:18.840 Content used to bully a child. Well, that's getting a little bit more murky, but OK, fine.

00:05:23.720 We know you don't want children. Frankly, children shouldn't even be on the Internet.

00:05:28.920 But the idea that, OK, you can somehow have legislation to protect children from bullying.

00:05:34.600 And then content that induces a child to harm themselves.

00:05:39.100 So now we're getting into like totally subjective measures.

00:05:41.600 So, you know, you are somehow responsible if you post something that could lead someone to harm themselves.

00:05:48.720 I don't even know how that would possibly work and connect.

00:05:51.580 And then when it comes to hate and violent extremism.

00:05:55.040 So, again, there's two parts. One, protecting children.

00:05:57.280 And the second one, when it comes to so-called hate speech.

00:06:00.800 So one of the categories here is content that incites violent extremism or terrorism.

00:06:06.460 OK, content that incites violence. Those are things that are already illegal in Canada.

00:06:11.040 You cannot incite violence. You can obviously not incite terrorism.

00:06:14.940 But then all of a sudden you see here it says content that foments hatred.

00:06:19.580 Content that foments hatred. Hmm, interesting. I wonder what that could include.

00:06:23.480 And then intimate content communicated without consent, including deepfakes.

00:06:26.640 Again, I think most Canadians get behind that.

00:06:29.000 But that one category right there, content that foments hatred, should raise a lot of red flags because it is so incredibly subjective.

00:06:37.980 And as we'll discuss later in the program, we know that Justin Trudeau uses this kind of thing to go after his enemies.

00:06:45.380 He uses it to go after his political opponents.

00:06:47.080 He uses the guise of hate speech and hate to basically as a sword to attack his opponents.

00:06:56.040 And so let's read from our True North article here.

00:06:58.860 It says Liberals online hate bill contains $70,000 fines for speech and life imprisonment for hate crimes.

00:07:05.240 So according to the new bill, anybody will be able to file complaints against each other for posting hate speech online.

00:07:12.300 And it is discriminatory against protected categories such as gender, race, disability, and others.

00:07:18.640 Amendments to the Canadian Human Rights Act.

00:07:21.460 Let anybody file complaints against a person posting so-called hate speech with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

00:07:27.280 So we're getting into kangaroo court territory where basically Canadians can just snitch on one another.

00:07:33.620 You can do it anonymously.

00:07:34.980 And if the commission decides that what someone has posted online is hate speech, you could be responsible for up to $70,000.

00:07:45.000 So it says, if found guilty, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal can order those found to violate the government's definition of hatred with fines up to $70,000 and take down order for content.

00:07:54.480 According to the text of the bill, the tribunal has the power to order payments of $20,000 for victims of so-called online hate, as well as an order to pay the government $50,000 if the member panel considers it appropriate.

00:08:08.700 So you can shake someone down.

00:08:09.680 If someone writes something online that you don't like, you can anonymously snitch on them.

00:08:14.880 If the tribunal rules in your favor, you get $20,000.

00:08:18.060 So there's no barrier.

00:08:19.420 Like, you could just go after everybody.

00:08:21.120 You could sit online all day, every day, looking up tweets, looking up Facebook posts that you find offensive or that you believe is hate, and you could potentially get huge payouts.

00:08:32.840 You could potentially make a lot of money by just shaking down people whom you hate.

00:08:38.220 This kind of, from my perspective, just creates a scenario where Canadians will just go after each other.

00:08:43.440 You know, you'll have Jewish Canadians reporting all kinds of Hamas supporters.

00:08:48.060 You'll have trans people reporting all kinds of conservatives.

00:08:52.660 You'll have maybe potentially First Nations people reporting all kinds of, what, historians and people talking about residential schools in ways that they don't like.

00:09:02.200 Like, this just opens up a minefield in Canadian society that pits different groups against each other.

00:09:07.660 And it really could lead us to some dark places.

00:09:12.260 I think that there is just so much grounds for abuse, for people to claim that they are the victim of hate speech, for people to take someone else's words and twist them, and really just to create widespread litigation throughout our society, where, again, people are trying to shake down other people basically for $20,000.

00:09:31.500 And I mentioned this earlier, my second critique about this is that the government, again, emphasized that this is all about protecting kids from porn.

00:09:39.780 But the reality is, because of the platforms that it applies to, it's going to be much broader than that.

00:09:46.340 Because it says the Online Harms Act would set out applications for online platforms, including livestream and adult content services like Facebook, Twitch, and Pornhub.

00:09:55.200 Okay, so that doesn't even make sense that adult services like Facebook and Twitch.

00:09:59.880 But the fact that it is covering more than just Pornhub should raise eyebrows.

00:10:04.780 I think that all Canadians should, of course, oppose this affront on internet freedom.

00:10:10.500 I think we saw several independent journalists speaking out against it and saying that this is not a correct course.

00:10:18.640 This is an attack on free speech.

00:10:19.980 We had Ezra Levant, who himself has lived through this kind of a tribunal back before the Harper government.

00:10:28.880 There was a similar type of legislation on the books.

00:10:31.220 Harper got rid of it.

00:10:32.820 And before Harper got rid of it, Ezra Levant got caught up in one of these kangaroo courts.

00:10:37.700 And so this is what he had to say.

00:10:39.780 He wrote on Twitter.

00:10:41.600 He's lying again.

00:10:42.980 He claims that this is about protecting kids, the same kids he wants to have transgender surgeries without their parents' consent. 0.75

00:10:48.760 This bill is not about protecting kids.

00:10:51.300 It's about censoring critics of Trudeau.

00:10:55.280 So that was what Ezra Levant had to say.

00:10:57.700 True North's own Cosmin Georgia also had a critique of this bill.

00:11:01.580 He wrote this on Twitter.

00:11:02.560 He said,

00:11:03.000 The Liberal Online Hate Bill, C-63, empowers a Canadian human rights tribunal to hide the identity of accusers and can even compel gag orders on people who are subject of online hate complaints.

00:11:16.880 This is a kangaroo court system, full stop, dangerous territory.

00:11:20.740 So that is pretty accurate, pretty much, I think, exactly how so many Canadians feel about all this.

00:11:28.520 But interestingly, or maybe I should say not so interestingly, the legacy media took a different turn.

00:11:34.420 They did not criticize Trudeau for this bill.

00:11:36.840 They actually applauded him for it.

00:11:38.700 And so I want to play you this clip.

00:11:40.560 This is of CTV's so-called tech expert, Avery Schwartz.

00:11:45.060 And she was on CTV's Your Morning on Monday morning, yesterday morning, before the bill was tabled.

00:11:51.220 But like I said, we knew that it was coming out.

00:11:53.560 And so she hasn't seen the text of the bill at this point when she's doing this interview.

00:11:58.560 But you could just see how excited she is about it.

00:12:02.860 So I'm going to play you this clip now.

00:12:04.740 This is Avery Schwartz on CTV.

00:12:06.480 I really like the idea of potentially creating a digital safety commissioner.

00:12:12.520 Someone whose job it is, who has a full office to regulate online content.

00:12:17.920 Okay, let's just pause it there.

00:12:20.160 You could see that she's just over the moon. 0.85

00:12:23.680 She really likes the idea, guys.

00:12:25.500 She really, really likes the idea of an online safety ombudsperson or commissioner.

00:12:31.140 This is not, okay, this right here is sort of the face of modern leftist authoritarianism, right?

00:12:37.900 You have this jovial woman.

00:12:39.420 She kind of looks like a mom. 0.76

00:12:40.800 And what she's talking about, she's sounding super excited about, like she's planning her kid's birthday party or something like that.

00:12:46.140 You know, what she's talking about, creating a new government office with the euphemistic title, sort of the Orwellian title, the safety commissioner,

00:12:54.040 whose job it is to take complaints from Canadians and swiftly remove content online.

00:13:00.900 This is authoritarianism.

00:13:02.060 This is authoritarianism.

00:13:03.040 This is the government watching your every move online and taking action against it.

00:13:08.420 And here we have this woman just so excited about it. 1.00

00:13:11.780 She really, she really, really wants to see a commissioner.

00:13:15.220 She just really wants to see the government start regulating the internet and having a person whose job it is, you know, under the name of safety.

00:13:24.240 Of course, it's always under the name of safety with the authoritarian left, who is there to censor your speech and to put a chill on free speech,

00:13:32.480 to put the fear in everybody watching this video and everyone online, that if you say the wrong thing and you upset someone and it makes its way up to the safety commissioner,

00:13:40.820 you could have to pay $70,000.

00:13:43.220 You could go to jail.

00:13:44.460 You could have your life ruined, your life destroyed, just because of something that you posted that went against whatever the rules were of the day.

00:13:53.980 Okay, let's continue this tech expert, Avery Shorts.

00:13:57.140 Fines and punishment for those that are not falling into compliance and also that they would have sort of like ombudsman-like capabilities

00:14:07.280 where it's a place that you could go and issue complaints because, you know, if something happens online,

00:14:12.580 if you see online harm, especially around children, there's really not much you can do about it right now in Canada.

00:14:18.180 You can report it to the platform where you see it, but who knows if that's really going anywhere.

00:14:22.840 If we have a digital safety commissioner who can field complaints, field concerns from the general public,

00:14:29.220 that is something that I'm really keen to see.

00:14:32.900 Okay, so you can just see her get excited, repeating Justin Trudeau's talking points, almost verbatim.

00:14:39.080 What she says there isn't even true, that if you see something happening online, you have no recourse.

00:14:42.840 It's not true.

00:14:43.620 You can flag it with the social media platforms.

00:14:46.040 They take this stuff down almost instantly.

00:14:48.100 If it gets into the category, into the terrain of a child being put in harm, of course, there's already laws in the books in Canada to protect children.

00:14:56.520 You can call the police.

00:14:57.360 You can get them involved.

00:14:58.380 So really, what are we doing?

00:14:59.840 We're creating an added level of government, an added layer of government, a new portfolio, a new job to protect our safety, to make us all feel safe and warm.

00:15:09.700 But really, this is just a friendly, smiley face of leftist authoritarianism coming to Canada.

00:15:17.860 And of course, you know, the idea that she was really excited about the digital safety commissioner.

00:15:22.460 That's all there.

00:15:23.420 That all came true. 0.74

00:15:24.480 Her wish for what she wanted to see in the bill is pretty much exactly what we got.

00:15:30.260 And so let's move on to reaction.

00:15:33.100 You know, the Conservatives have been pretty quiet since this bill was released.

00:15:36.180 It's still early.

00:15:37.300 They still have time to put together a response.

00:15:40.980 But I will note that last week we had our own Andrew Lawton was out in Kitchener and he went to a Pierre Polyev press conference.

00:15:49.260 And Andrew knew that this bill was coming.

00:15:51.700 And so he asked Pierre Polyev about it.

00:15:54.260 And I think that that is the best response from the Conservative Party that we've had so far as to what they think about this bill.

00:16:01.620 So let's play that clip.

00:16:02.500 This is last week before the bill got released, but this is what Pierre Polyev had to say about Justin Trudeau's looming crackdown on online hate speech.

00:16:10.980 Let's play that clip.

00:16:11.900 Morning, Mr. Polyev.

00:16:12.800 Andrew Lawton, True North.

00:16:14.360 The federal government has said that its online harms bill is imminent.

00:16:19.060 They've said this bill will include, among other things, a ban on so-called online hate speech.

00:16:23.620 As you know, the Conservatives a decade ago repealed Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act, which the Liberals have talked about reintroducing and tried in the last parliamentary term.

00:16:34.280 Will the Conservatives oppose the reintroduction of these provisions and the Liberals' approach to so-called online hate speech?

00:16:42.620 Yes.

00:16:44.020 We will oppose Justin Trudeau's latest attack on freedom of expression.

00:16:49.300 And I want to ask, what does Justin Trudeau mean when he says the word hate speech?

00:17:00.400 He means speech he hates.

00:17:04.260 So, for example, let's go through some of the things he said is hate speech.

00:17:08.760 Jerry Butts, the PMO puppet master, said that it was hate speech to criticize Trudeau for using the ridiculous term people kind.

00:17:17.720 Right?

00:17:21.380 Justin Trudeau said anyone who criticized him during the pandemic was engaging in hate speech.

00:17:29.440 Basically, anybody who disagrees with his radical agenda when it comes to kids, he says it's hate speech.

00:17:38.260 He attacked Muslim parents who were protesting against his agenda.

00:17:42.720 Is he going to criminalize those Muslim parents for protecting their children in schools?

00:17:49.600 Go down the list of things that Justin Trudeau disapproves of, and you can imagine all of the things that will be criminalized.

00:17:59.200 Then there becomes the question of who is going to be in charge of determining what is hate speech?

00:18:04.980 Recently, a school board in Ontario banned Anne Frank's books.

00:18:11.820 Okay?

00:18:12.860 So, would that be considered hate speech under Justin Trudeau's woke authoritarian agenda?

00:18:20.200 I think it would.

00:18:20.840 So, anyone who thinks that speech they don't like is going to be criminalized, and therefore, the bill should be supported, go through, those people should go through the list of their own thoughts that Justin Trudeau considers to be unacceptable views.

00:18:38.460 And, finally, I point out the irony that someone who spent the first half of his adult life as a practicing racist who dressed up in hideous racist costumes so many times, he says he can't remember them all, should then be the arbiter on what constitutes hate.

00:19:05.800 What he should actually do is look into his own heart and ask himself why he was such a hateful racist, despite his enormous personal privileges of a multi-million dollar trust fund, being the son of a prime minister, growing up in mansions, traveling the world, why he had so much hate in his art that he was such an awful racist.

00:19:29.560 And what he should do is actually explain where that ugliness came from, and maybe in that way, rather than through coercion, he could help us all in the fight against real hate.

00:19:41.660 So, Pierre Polyev rightly explains and describes this bill at the time, potential bill, but now it is a real bill that has been tabled, as not hate speech, but just speech that Trudeau hates.

00:19:53.040 And I think that there's plenty of reasons for Canadians to agree with that.

00:19:56.800 We have seen this man, over the course of his time as prime minister of Canada, focus on dividing Canadians, focus on pinning Canadians against one another, taking groups of people that Trudeau personally doesn't like, and vilifying them, and demonizing them, and saying that they hold unacceptable views, or that they are a small fringe minority.

00:20:16.520 We remember that during the lockdowns, that's what he called the protesters, anyone protesting his government, held unacceptable views, and that it wasn't something that Canadians should agree with.

00:20:27.380 When he was talking about unvaccinated Canadians, he asked whether it was something that Canadians should tolerate. 0.83

00:20:32.340 Should we even tolerate people who would not take a jab, you know, in the name of COVID?

00:20:39.100 Even recently, when it came to parents, concerned parents, moms and dads protesting against far-left content and material in schools, including many Muslim families, I should note.

00:20:54.320 Justin Trudeau attacked them as well.

00:20:56.480 Pierre Polyev mentioned this when he talked about Muslim parents.

00:20:59.540 This is what Justin Trudeau tweeted back in September of 2023.

00:21:03.260 He said, let me make one thing very clear, transphobia, homophobia, biphobia have no place in this country.

00:21:11.040 We strongly condemn this hate and its manifestations.

00:21:14.500 We stand united in support of 2SLGBTQI plus Canadians across the country who are valid.

00:21:22.760 You are valued.

00:21:23.800 So again, Trudeau just calls it hate.

00:21:25.560 He says that things that he disagrees with are hate, and that's exactly what this bill is all about.

00:21:33.720 So why is Justin Trudeau doing this?

00:21:36.160 Why is he introducing this bill?

00:21:38.700 Is it really to protect children?

00:21:40.800 Is it really about stopping the abuse of children online?

00:21:44.260 Or does perhaps Justin Trudeau have an ulterior motive?

00:21:48.220 Well, remember this clip from last week.

00:21:50.620 Justin Trudeau was on a radio show in Alberta called Real Talk with Ryan Jesperson, and he kind of let the cat out of the bag when he talked about what was going on on social media and why he didn't like what was happening on social media.

00:22:05.900 So let's play this clip of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

00:22:09.720 There is out there a deliberate undermining of mainstream media.

00:22:14.820 There are the conspiracy theorists, there are the social media drivers who are trying to do everything they can to keep people in their little filter bubbles, to prevent people from actually agreeing on a common set of facts the way CBC and CTV, when they were our only sources of news and global, used to project across the country at least a common understanding of things.

00:22:38.000 So there you go.

00:22:39.840 Justin Trudeau is angry at what he calls conspiracy theorists and social media drivers.

00:22:46.600 I assume that in that bubble of people that he's talking about, he's talking about independent media groups like True North and like Rebel.

00:22:54.700 But he says that we are to blame for the decline in trust in legacy media.

00:22:59.220 The decline in trust in legacy media, guys, has nothing to do with fake news reporting over legacy media, nothing to do with their bias, their blatant pro-liberal agenda, their use of liberal talking points any time that Justin Trudeau does anything that's offensive.

00:23:13.300 No, no, no.

00:23:13.920 It has nothing to do with any of that.

00:23:15.640 It's all because of conspiracy theorists.

00:23:17.700 It's all because of social media drivers.

00:23:20.580 And interesting how Trudeau then opines sort of, you know, he's nostalgic for the days when there were just two TV stations.

00:23:27.380 It was just the CBC and CTV.

00:23:29.320 It was so easy to control the media back then when there were just two groups.

00:23:32.580 But now you have this proliferation of opinions and opinion makers and news sites all across the Internet.

00:23:37.820 Justin Trudeau doesn't like that.

00:23:38.800 He blames that for the declining trust in the media, which is just hilarious and laughable.

00:23:45.460 But I think he really was hinting towards why he introduced this legislation.

00:23:51.180 Justin Trudeau wants to control everything.

00:23:54.760 Justin Trudeau wants to be in control of the country.

00:23:58.640 This is what leftist authoritarianism looks like.

00:24:01.240 It comes to you under the guise of safety, under the guise of protecting you from just seeing things that you don't like.

00:24:06.340 But really what it's all about is just Justin Trudeau focused on self-preservation.

00:24:12.820 Justin Trudeau focused on power and pushing his far left worldview.

00:24:17.140 And in order to do that, he needs to control things.

00:24:19.940 He wants to control the Internet just like he controls the media.

00:24:23.240 He said it right there.

00:24:24.580 When there's only two news stations, CTV and CBC, everybody agreed.

00:24:28.880 Why did everyone agree?

00:24:29.700 Because they were pushing the exact same agenda.

00:24:32.320 They were pushing the same talking points.

00:24:33.680 They were pushing liberal propaganda.

00:24:36.140 But now the Internet is so big that not everyone is going to push liberal propaganda.

00:24:40.560 Trudeau doesn't like that.

00:24:41.380 So Trudeau wants to control the Internet just like he controls the media.

00:24:47.040 If the Internet and free speech are undermining his control of the media and so-called conspiracy theorists are to blame for that declining trust in the media, then that is Justin Trudeau's justification for censoring things so that he can continue to have that control.

00:25:03.540 And that is what we are seeing with the Online Harbs Act.

00:25:06.360 Thank you so much for tuning in.

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The Candice Malcolm Show - February 27, 2024

Trudeau's latest attempt to CENSOR you

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