The Candice Malcolm Show - Trudeau sides with Hamas

00:00:00.000 Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has long been accused of winking and nodding and quietly courting radical Islamists and Jew-haters in Canada.

00:00:07.820 He took that to a whole new level on Tuesday when he scolded Israel sternly, sternly accusing our ally of doing the things that Hamas is guilty of. 0.98

00:00:16.640 Trudeau is an embarrassment, a fool, and now he's firmly come out on Hamas's side of the conflict. 0.98

00:00:22.220 I'm Candice Malcolm and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. 1.00

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00:01:48.020 Today on the program, we're going to talk about Justin Trudeau, his foolhardy lecture to Israel, and how Israel has responded.

00:01:54.700 Later in the program, I'll be joined by my colleague, Harrison Faulkner, to talk about his reporting on the Israel conflict and the truth.

00:02:01.420 We're going to discuss the truth about the government-funded anti-hate network in Canada.

00:02:05.840 So, Justin Trudeau has been walking a fine line since the start of the war in Israel on October 7th.

00:02:13.100 You will remember that a few weeks ago, he blamed Israel for bombing a hospital, even though Canada's own intelligence showed that that was a rocket that was misfired by a Palestinian terrorist group, and that it actually hit the parking lot.

00:02:24.920 It didn't hit the hospital.

00:02:25.920 The hospital remains intact and relatively unscathed.

00:02:29.340 As acts of violence against Jewish Canadians increased to alarming levels, with synagogues being firebombed, shots being fired at Jewish elementary schools, Jews being beat up at protests, intimidated at universities, threatened across the country, having their businesses harassed and protested, and boycotted, Justin Trudeau, throughout this all, has played the moral equivalence game.

00:02:49.420 Every time he condemns anti-Semitism, he makes sure to also equally condemn so-called Islamophobia and all forms of hate.

00:02:56.720 He can't really bring himself to just calling out the evils of anti-Semitism.

00:03:01.140 He's been seen groveling to supporters at pro-Hamas mosques.

00:03:05.160 He's been having private closed-door meetings with Palestinian activists.

00:03:08.120 And his completely incompetent sidekick, Canada's foreign affairs minister, Melanie Jolie, I have no idea how she found herself in that role, but there she is. 1.00

00:03:16.820 She actually said out loud that she looks forward to negotiations between Israel and Hamas.

00:03:22.900 Yes, Jolie said that she hoped for a detente and even more negotiations where she imagined a negotiating table with the Israelis, with Hamas, and with Qatar present.

00:03:32.700 So, I guess, according to our foreign affairs minister, Israel's supposed to sit down with the evil, sadistic terrorists who gleefully massacred entire villages in the most barbaric ways imaginable,

00:03:43.940 who have kidnapped and continue to hold hundreds of civilian hostages, including children, little kids, and babies in unknown conditions,

00:03:51.500 and a group that calls for the genocide against the Jews and a holy war at every opportunity.

00:03:57.060 Israel's supposed to actually sit down and negotiate with these people. 0.99

00:03:59.640 Imagine how ignorant and uninformed you have to be to call for Hamas to have a seat at any future negotiations. 0.95

00:04:06.400 Well, that's what we're dealing with. 0.95

00:04:07.760 That's who Justin Trudeau has empowered to hold the position of Canada's top diplomat.

00:04:13.000 Meanwhile, 23 Liberal MPs signed a letter demanding a ceasefire.

00:04:17.340 Now, it's worth noting, as I did in a recent True North column, that there was a ceasefire in place.

00:04:22.500 There was a ceasefire there on October 6th, in the morning of October 7th.

00:04:26.580 Hamas broke that ceasefire, and it promises to do so again. 0.90

00:04:31.300 That means that any future hypothetical ceasefire only really applies to Israel, since we know that Hamas will not adhere to one.

00:04:39.020 So calling for a ceasefire is de facto support for Hamas.

00:04:43.880 It lets them off the hook.

00:04:45.320 It rewards them for hiding behind civilians and below civilians in Gaza, which, by the way, is a war crime.

00:04:50.900 And it lets things go back to exactly the way they were before the massacre on October 7th.

00:04:56.320 So Trudeau has been talking out of both sides of his mouth, and he's quietly been winking and nodding at the pro-Hamas side.

00:05:02.600 Or at least he was until yesterday, Tuesday, November 14th, when Trudeau dropped the mask and came out firmly on the side of Hamas.

00:05:10.420 Trudeau stood up at the podium and shamelessly parroted Hamas' talking points.

00:05:14.420 He accused Israel of doing all the things that Hamas does, targeting civilians, murdering children and babies, and failing to use restraint.

00:05:22.620 Here is that clip.

00:05:23.980 The human tragedy that is unfolding in Gaza is heart-wrenching, especially the suffering we see in and around the Al-Shifa hospital.

00:05:33.520 I have been clear that the price of justice cannot be the continued suffering of all Palestinian civilians.

00:05:44.520 Even wars have rules.

00:05:48.280 All innocent life is equal in worth, Israeli and Palestinian.

00:05:54.920 As the world is watching, on TV, on social media, we're hearing the testimonies of doctors, family members, survivors, kids who've lost their parents.

00:06:15.920 The world is witnessing this, the killing of women and children, of babies.

00:06:32.920 This has to stop.

00:06:36.080 Trudeau is an actor through and through, always with the dramatic pauses and the consternation in his voice.

00:06:42.580 He's just so inauthentic.

00:06:44.280 It's unbelievable.

00:06:44.960 When he says, this has to stop.

00:06:47.820 As if he's talking to a belligerent child instead of one of our democratic allies.

00:06:53.540 So as I wrote on X, I think that Trudeau is completely irrelevant on the world stage and that he should probably be ignored.

00:07:00.460 He deserves to be anyway.

00:07:02.040 But I stand corrected.

00:07:03.180 I thought he would be ignored.

00:07:04.300 As usual, he usually is ignored when he does these kind of things.

00:07:07.180 But this time, he wasn't.

00:07:08.680 Instead, Trudeau became the punching bag for far more serious leaders who know a thing or two about the difference between Hamas and Israel.

00:07:17.500 So first off, we see Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, quickly responded to Justin Trudeau on X.

00:07:24.020 He wrote this.

00:07:25.040 Justin Trudeau, it is not Israel that is deliberately targeting civilians, but Hamas that beheaded, burned and massacred civilians in the worst horrors perpetrated on Jews since the Holocaust.

00:07:34.440 While Israel is doing everything to keep civilians out of harm's way, Hamas is doing everything to keep them in harm's way. 0.95

00:07:42.320 Israel provides civilians in Gaza humanitarian corridors and safe zones.

00:07:46.380 Hamas prevents them from leaving at gunpoint.

00:07:49.040 It is Hamas, not Israel, that should be held accountable for committing a double war crime, targeting civilians while also hiding behind civilians. 0.89

00:07:56.760 The forces of civilization must back Israel in defeating Hamas's barbarism. 0.94

00:08:01.920 It wasn't just Benjamin Netanyahu, Yair Lapid, who is the leader of the opposition in Israel.

00:08:07.440 This is a centrist party.

00:08:09.140 He also responded to Trudeau.

00:08:10.320 He wrote this.

00:08:11.260 Hamas launched this war. 0.61

00:08:13.000 Hamas hides in civilian buildings and Hamas abuses Gazans as human shields.

00:08:17.820 If Canada ever found itself under a sustained and brutal attack like the one we now face, you would find Israel by your side. 1.00

00:08:24.600 We expect the same.

00:08:26.840 Quite the talking down, quite the embarrassment for Justin Trudeau.

00:08:30.260 So many others jumped in with useful comments.

00:08:32.840 Here's Marco Navarro-Gini, who is a professor and author.

00:08:36.040 He wrote this. 0.98

00:08:37.160 Someone please get community note checks on this ignorant man. 0.96

00:08:39.980 He asks, did Hamas use minimal restraint on October 7th? 0.96

00:08:43.980 Is Israel deliberately targeting civilians and babies?

00:08:46.660 Is Israel blocking civilians from leaving a theater of conflict?

00:08:49.980 Is the IDF hiding in ambulances and underneath hospitals?

00:08:53.200 Is Israel rounding up Arab civilians to use as human shields and barking chips?

00:08:57.240 Are the attacks against Jews in Canada motivated by Islamophobia?

00:09:02.000 Next, we have the Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs that wrote this.

00:09:05.720 The blood of dead babies, Israeli and Palestinians, is on Hamas. 0.87

00:09:10.100 Rhetoric like Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's today enables Hamas to continue to cynically and criminally use the Palestinian civilian population as human shields to advance its genocidal goal.

00:09:20.900 And while surely not his intent, such assertions also fuel anti-Semitism at home here in Canada.

00:09:27.720 David Frum, who is a political commenter, also wrote,

00:09:30.880 Justin Trudeau's public reprimand of Israel tonight will have zero effect on the region.

00:09:34.820 He must know that.

00:09:35.960 In Canada, however, his words will be heard as permission by those harassing Jews.

00:09:40.260 He should know that too.

00:09:41.280 He is risking Jewish safety to cushion the drop in the polls. 0.78

00:09:45.700 That's such a good point.

00:09:47.460 And I'll just finish on this note.

00:09:49.300 What should we make of all this?

00:09:51.040 What should we make of Justin Trudeau and his decision to basically take the side of Hamas or at least parrot Hamas's talking points in his remarks on Tuesday?

00:10:00.440 Well, I wrote about this in a column for True North this week called Can We Finally Have a Discussion About Canadian Values?

00:10:07.080 And here was what I wrote.

00:10:08.520 Justin Trudeau is beholden to the extreme left and Canada's growing Muslim population. 1.00

00:10:12.500 Most Muslims in Canada oppose terrorism and loathe groups like Hamas.

00:10:16.940 Many of them, after all, are here in Canada because of the destabilizing forces of radical Islamists and jihadist movements in the Middle East and North Africa.

00:10:25.200 But among Canada's 1.7 million Muslims, approximately half a million of which came to Canada under Trudeau's immigration policies,

00:10:32.020 there are a noisy, powerful few who subscribe to an extremist religious ideology and have brought their hatred of Israel and the Jews with them to Canada.

00:10:39.600 Trudeau, it seems, doesn't want to risk offending them by showing too much support for Israel.

00:10:45.260 This is just Justin Trudeau's latest moral failing.

00:10:47.660 It seems the man is not capable of uniting Canadians and bringing out the better nature of newcomers who are holding on to tribal feuds from faraway lands. 0.96

00:10:55.120 Trudeau is unwilling and unable to articulate Canadian values.

00:10:58.260 In fact, he infamously told the New York Times magazine that Canada was the first post-national state and that there was no uniting culture and no mainstream.

00:11:08.440 Trudeau doesn't really seem to believe in anything like Canadian values.

00:11:12.100 Well, Trudeau is wrong about Canada.

00:11:14.120 He was wrong to scold Israel for doing the things that Hamas does. 0.83

00:11:17.560 Justin Trudeau needs to stop playing with fire, stop catering to the most extreme radicals in our society, and stop embarrassing Canada by using Hamas's talking points. 0.65

00:11:26.820 Now, I'm excited to be joined by my next guest.

00:11:29.600 I'm going to bring in True North's Harrison Faulkner.

00:11:31.820 Harrison, welcome to the podcast.

00:11:33.700 Pleasure to be here, Candice, and welcome back to True North.

00:11:36.680 Thank you.

00:11:37.160 Yeah, I think it's fitting that you're my first guest, my first show back after doing maternity leave because you and I were on the show together when I announced that it was my last show before going on leave.

00:11:46.320 And I just want to tell the audience a quick little story.

00:11:49.160 So Harrison started out at our network as, I think, an intern.

00:11:52.680 Is that right, Harrison?

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00:12:23.920 Yeah, that's right.

00:12:24.960 Right at the bottom as an intern.

00:12:27.120 Yeah, so he started out as an intern just fresh out of university.

00:12:30.780 He got promoted to become a producer here on my show, and so he was helping out with the Candice Malcolm Show.

00:12:35.740 So we obviously spotted some talent, and we had you on first as a guest and then eventually as a co-host of Fake News Fridays here at the Candice Malcolm Show.

00:12:45.400 And then when we were talking about what we were going to do when I went on maternity leave and how we were going to fill up some content, we decided to give you your own show.

00:12:52.600 And Harrison, you've just really knocked it out of the park.

00:12:55.360 It's been so tremendous to see your growth over the past few years and to see how popular a show is, how much you're connecting with the audience, and how good you are at reporting and doing commentary and putting it all out in podcast form.

00:13:07.340 So I just wanted to let you know how proud I am and congratulate you for all your success here at True North.

00:13:12.400 Oh, well, thank you for the opportunity.

00:13:14.120 It's never – there's never been a dull moment since I've started this show.

00:13:17.100 We keep getting material to talk about, so it's not been the most difficult task, but it's really been a lot of fun.

00:13:22.940 Well, we're really lucky to have you.

00:13:24.180 Now, I want to talk about some reporting that you've done recently.

00:13:26.960 You were invited to see a private briefing at the Israeli consulate in Toronto.

00:13:32.140 You had to view some pretty gruesome footage from GoPros and cell phone videos and really a snuff film of the massacre that happened on October 7th.

00:13:41.380 So I want you to, first of all, tell us a little bit about the briefing.

00:13:44.540 How did you get invited?

00:13:46.000 What was it like?

00:13:47.100 Who else was there?

00:13:47.960 Tell us a little bit about that day.

00:13:50.400 Yeah, so this was all organized by the Israeli consulate in Toronto.

00:13:56.020 They had reached out to True North to bring some of our journalists to see this footage, to see this film,

00:14:03.120 and to be a part of a press briefing led by the consul general and, as well, an unnamed senior IDF official

00:14:10.560 who spoke on the condition of remaining anonymous.

00:14:12.960 You know, I was one of, I would say, 20 or so journalists.

00:14:17.820 Now, not everybody in that room was a journalist.

00:14:20.200 There were some members of the, I would consider them to be sort of the political strategy people,

00:14:27.700 PR people involved, and they were friends of the consulate.

00:14:30.880 But there was a small group of us, heavy security, as you can imagine.

00:14:34.660 We go through this room, and we get sort of the briefing before the briefing, which is basically no recording devices, no phones.

00:14:43.200 You have to leave everything in a locker, and when you get in there, all you can bring is a notebook and a pen.

00:14:49.720 And from that point on, really, we take our seats.

00:14:53.980 And, you know, there were journalists from the Toronto Star, from CB24, TVO.

00:15:00.100 Really, there was a lot of the legacy media journalists, notably Candace.

00:15:03.800 There was nobody from CBC at this briefing, which I think is, you know, surprising,

00:15:10.260 but not too surprising when you see their coverage over these protests and what's been going on in Israel.

00:15:15.120 We sit down, they give us a briefing, give us some details about what's going on on the ground,

00:15:20.920 what the consulate's response has been to the protests we've seen,

00:15:24.920 these really vile protests and what we've been heard being yelled at on our streets.

00:15:30.140 Then the IDF official gives us a briefing about the operation in Gaza, what's been going on.

00:15:36.600 And then they just lead us right into this film, and we can get into some of the contents of the film if you'd like.

00:15:41.660 Well, sure, why don't you just continue, let us know what you saw and what it was like.

00:15:46.460 Yeah, so as I've written, it's really gruesome, gruesome footage.

00:15:51.820 It's basically what you could imagine, but even worse because it's playing out right in front of your eyes.

00:15:57.920 The film begins, basically, with the scene of these Hamas terrorists on these roads.

00:16:04.860 And anybody who's driving past these terrorists on these roads that have just broken into southern Israel

00:16:10.420 is executed on the spot, they're dragged out of their cars, and each time a person is executed,

00:16:17.000 you can hear the chants of Allahu Akbar, and there's a real celebration, a celebratory mood

00:16:21.860 at each time an Israeli civilian is murdered in cold blood.

00:16:26.820 That's just the first 30 seconds or so.

00:16:29.860 Then there's some footage that a lot of people have likely seen on social media.

00:16:34.940 It's that footage of those two Hamas terrorists breaking into a kibbutz.

00:16:39.600 They walk up to the front gate.

00:16:42.400 They're waiting at the gate after they've killed the security guard who stands at the post of the gate.

00:16:49.200 Then they just wait for the unfortunate person who's just driving to his house that morning,

00:16:54.640 just driving into his kibbutz.

00:16:56.660 That person is, of course, killed like the other people who were killed at the beginning of the film.

00:17:01.120 Then they break in, and it's just mayhem.

00:17:03.320 You basically see an entire neighborhood get slaughtered.

00:17:08.160 Again, all of it is filmed, all of it is celebrated, as if it's some great accomplishment.

00:17:13.820 You know, I wrote this part in my opinion piece about it.

00:17:18.940 Of all the gruesome, grisly footage I saw, the part that I haven't been able to get out of my head

00:17:24.720 is this footage from inside a home.

00:17:27.020 It's of a father who is desperately trying to save his two sons' lives.

00:17:32.280 These are two little kids, and they're obviously woken up in the morning, and he rushes to grab them.

00:17:38.320 And they're, you know, trying to just find any place they can get shelter.

00:17:42.060 It looks as though they have some sort of shelter or bomb shelter in their backyard.

00:17:46.160 I'm guessing that's just the kind of situation that these people have to live in every day.

00:17:52.060 They have bomb shelters in their backyards.

00:17:53.740 This father grabs his two kids and rushes into their shelter in their backyard.

00:17:59.540 And a Hamas terrorist spots them, walks up, and throws a grenade into the shelter.

00:18:04.660 And all you see are these two kids run out, and the decapitated body of the father who absorbed the blast to save his two children.

00:18:12.680 Then you see these Hamas terrorists enter the home and just eat the food and drink what's in the fridge of this man they've just killed in front of these two kids. 0.74

00:18:26.000 These two kids are watching these terrorists in their kitchen eating their food after they've just killed his father.

00:18:31.140 You then see this, you then see the mother, who was, thank God for her safety, away from the kibbutz at this time. 0.98

00:18:41.800 She comes back with IDF soldiers to see what's happened to her husband.

00:18:46.480 And we don't know what's happened to the kids.

00:18:48.340 They don't show you that in the film.

00:18:50.560 All of that, Candace, is just the first five minutes.

00:18:55.100 It's unbelievable that everything was filmed, everything was celebrated.

00:19:00.600 It was obviously not just filmed for promotion, for Hamas promotional material, but for these people's, for their own enjoyment, which is just so sick.

00:19:11.660 It just, it gets worse after that.

00:19:13.900 But really, it's that opening scene of the desperation of a father trying to save his own children and sacrificing his life to do so that I can't, I haven't been able to get out of my head.

00:19:25.180 Other people have seen this film.

00:19:27.160 Journalists all over the world in these private closed-door screenings have seen the rest of the film.

00:19:32.100 And some of the footage I've noticed has been trickling out onto social media.

00:19:35.760 As I wrote in my opinion piece, I think, although that's horrible and it's difficult for people to see, it's really what needs to happen.

00:19:44.360 The world needs to see what these people did.

00:19:46.560 If, if there's going to ever really be, I think, I think a true understanding of what happened on October 7th.

00:19:54.280 The reality is people don't, a lot of people as we see on our streets and in this country, either don't believe what we're told about October 7th.

00:20:03.640 Don't believe it's as bad as, as, as the media has made it out to be.

00:20:07.220 And at worst think that it didn't actually happen.

00:20:11.100 And that's just the world we live in there.

00:20:12.900 People, people need to see the evidence in front of their own eyes.

00:20:15.740 They can't just accept the word of, of handpicked journalists.

00:20:18.560 As I wrote, the evidence needs to be there.

00:20:21.060 So it's indisputable.

00:20:22.300 The facts are the facts and the footage is there for everyone to see that.

00:20:26.080 Unfortunately is the world we live in, but I think that's the only opportunity.

00:20:28.580 And the only thing Israel can do, in my opinion, to firmly solidify their position on the high ground, which it's incredible.

00:20:35.400 It's up for debate, but as you discussed earlier with Justin Trudeau, it, it, it's the, it's the truth.

00:20:42.100 Israel, Israel, for, for whatever reason, the, the, the West doesn't seem to be taking Israel at, at Israel's word.

00:20:48.960 It's, it's horrible.

00:20:49.980 Yeah.

00:20:50.400 It's almost like we're all watching something, a different play out when I listened to Justin Trudeau

00:20:54.600 and hear his words, uh, scolding Israel, you know, basically accusing them of doing all the things that we know that Hamas is doing.

00:21:00.820 It's like, it's like, it's a different universe.

00:21:02.600 And I, I commend you for sitting through that film.

00:21:05.300 I, I know I wouldn't be able to, you talk about how those images keep you up at night.

00:21:09.300 You know, I forced myself to watch pieces here and there, you know, as a journalist, you kind of have to, in some ways it's your obligation.

00:21:15.260 Even, I remember when ISIS was carrying out its, its gruesome attacks and I would read the details and I would watch those videos.

00:21:21.220 Not because I wanted to, I really don't want to, but I think you're right.

00:21:24.760 It's important to see it, to bear witness to the truth and what happened and those images get burnt into your eyelids.

00:21:31.860 I mean, I've got three little kids and, you know, the idea of it does keep me up at night, how those families felt in that moment of terror.

00:21:39.140 And, and most of them didn't make it out.

00:21:41.840 And, and it's horrific and, you know, it's all the backstory to the conflict right now.

00:21:47.380 Just to push back a little bit, ever so slightly, you know, people are denying the events in real time, even though there is evidence out there, even though it, it has been confirmed.

00:21:56.960 And, and, you know, the IDF and the Israelis have, have done as much as they can to try to convince the public there's always going to be people out there on social media saying that it's fake, saying that it's a psych op, saying that, you know, maybe these are, these are crisis actors or, or maybe it was produced, you know, in a, in a studio or something like that.

00:22:13.460 I think even if they do release the videos, they'll, they'll still be hateful people who, you know, don't, don't want to believe it, refuse to believe it, convince themselves it's not true.

00:22:23.020 And all that you're really doing at that point is, is just violating what very little privacy some of these families have left.

00:22:30.820 And, and, and again, disgracing the sanctity of the life that was taken.

00:22:35.440 So what's your response to that?

00:22:37.660 Well, I think you raise a good point that ultimately there are always going to be people who will refuse to believe even what's in front of their own eyes, even if they have evidence right in front of them, they either won't believe it.

00:22:48.800 And that will, that will be the case for a number of reasons.

00:22:51.460 I think there is, as we've all seen clearly amongst the people that are protesting against Israel, there is a large amount of just general antisemitism involved here.

00:23:01.140 There is this, there is this hatred that we're seeing, which is clouding everyone's judgment.

00:23:05.500 I think, however, I don't want to just immediately assume that those who believe Israel is somehow in the wrong here are all, would all think the same if they saw the footage that I saw.

00:23:17.380 I think there is still a level of humanity among a number of people.

00:23:20.600 That being said, of course, there are, there are people that will never accept what, what is in front of them.

00:23:24.700 And that's just a reality we have to, I think, accept in society.

00:23:28.820 But I do believe that if this footage was out there, a lot of people would change their minds.

00:23:34.280 I think that there is, there's so much, there's so much that when you watch this footage that really tests your, your boundaries of what you think humans are capable of.

00:23:43.920 The way that these people celebrate their actions that leaves you, leaves you realizing just how bad these people really are.

00:23:51.800 And just what, and the real situation Israel faces on a day-to-day basis.

00:23:56.680 These people live, in some cases, in very close to their country.

00:24:01.860 They, they attack their country all the time. 0.99

00:24:04.500 These people are constantly under attack by a group of people who take pride and celebration in the, in the barbarity of their actions.

00:24:12.380 That is the part that I think will really test people's, people's limits and make them, make them question whether or not what they're hearing, all the negativity that they're hearing about Israel, whether or not it's actually legitimate if they see this footage.

00:24:26.340 So you're right.

00:24:27.740 There are people that won't change their mind, but I don't think that's everybody.

00:24:30.900 And I think that there are a number of people who will say, yeah, you know what?

00:24:34.200 I, I really don't think I'm that comfortable protesting for Palestine when these are the people at the front line of that protest. 0.93

00:24:40.760 Maybe, maybe I'd be mistaken, but I do have enough.

00:24:44.620 I do have some faith in humanity that a number of people would really question their stance if they saw this footage.

00:24:49.980 All right, let's move on, Harrison.

00:24:51.540 I wanted to discuss with you an organization in Canada that you and I are both familiar with, the so-called Anti-Hate Network in Canada.

00:24:58.480 So, you know, this story really is fit for Fake News Friday.

00:25:01.440 Maybe we should bring back Fake News Friday just to talk about this.

00:25:04.160 But look, for years, the legacy media has quoted and run stories based on this group's reports.

00:25:09.500 But all of that has really been undermined in recent weeks.

00:25:13.080 So, you know, you think that the Anti-Hate Network, true to its name, would start in the wake of everything that we've seen over the past few weeks.

00:25:19.980 It would really start focusing on the immense hatred that we see at the pro-Palestinian rallies, really just pro-Hamas rallies.

00:25:27.600 We see hateful slogans.

00:25:28.940 We see hateful speeches.

00:25:30.460 We see hateful messages on signs and hateful people bullying Jewish businesses, attacking Jewish people.

00:25:35.780 So you would expect a group called the Anti-Hate Network to be, you know, front and center condemning all of this.

00:25:41.620 But instead, there was radio silence from this group.

00:25:44.260 We didn't hear anything, anything from this group, other than there was one blog post that I saw posted that was trying to blame this all on some obscure far-right individual,

00:25:53.840 even though everyone knows that it's woke leftists and Islamists that are marching at these rallies.

00:25:59.380 But then we had Bernie Farber, who is one of the founders of this organization.

00:26:04.420 He went on social media.

00:26:05.840 So Ariella Kimmel, who is a Jewish activist, she wrote this on X.

00:26:10.440 She wrote, it's been a month since the terrorist attacks on Israelis.

00:26:14.500 This is the first post from the Anti-Hate Network since.

00:26:17.480 I know your views because I've grown up knowing you, but it's not just me calling this out.

00:26:22.160 And in response, Bernie Farber, you know, in fairness and credit to him, he actually responded to her.

00:26:27.280 I think it's probably a strategic mistake on his behalf.

00:26:29.760 But anyway, he wrote, Ariella, anti-hate.ca focuses on the extreme right.

00:26:35.200 That is what it does.

00:26:36.460 I wish we had the resources to do more.

00:26:38.640 We don't.

00:26:39.200 So this organization gets grants and funding from the Trudeau government, from the federal government.

00:26:45.000 And never once, Harrison, have I ever heard them say that their mandate is only to focus on one side,

00:26:51.340 to only look at the political right.

00:26:52.840 They never mentioned that.

00:26:53.740 It's nowhere on their website.

00:26:55.320 Journalists who cover their stories and quote them all the time never mentioned this.

00:26:59.740 So really, I mean, how can anyone take this group seriously anymore?

00:27:03.440 They're not the anti-hate network.

00:27:04.700 They're the anti-conservative network.

00:27:06.160 What do you make of all this?

00:27:07.060 Well, I just have to begin by saying it's a shocking display of honesty coming from Bernie Farber to be so upfront

00:27:14.240 and just to tell us the truth that actually, yeah, they're only interested in the far right.

00:27:18.560 And really, they're not just interested in the far right, as you say, quite right, Candace.

00:27:23.200 It's the anti-conservative network always has been.

00:27:26.060 Now, when it comes to documenting all of the hate that we've seen at these pro-Hamas, pro-Palestine protests,

00:27:34.560 of which there is plenty of evidence, whether it be the actual display of Hamas flags,

00:27:39.640 that happens all the time at these protests, or the anti-Semitic chants, the genocidal chants you hear,

00:27:45.880 it would be an amazing opportunity for anti-hate.

00:27:48.420 They could write stories every day for the next month.

00:27:51.320 They'd have all this content, but they haven't really written anything about it.

00:27:54.640 So, they've tried this all the time.

00:27:56.920 Now, it's worth mentioning, when it comes to anti-hate as well,

00:28:00.060 that Canada's special envoy to combating Islamophobia, or whatever, that might be,

00:28:05.840 that's probably her title, something along those lines.

00:28:07.600 Anyway, the anti-Islamophobia government appointee by Justin Trudeau

00:28:12.520 happens to be a woman named Amira El-Gawabi.

00:28:15.500 Now, Amira El-Gawabi also happened to be a founding board member of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network.

00:28:20.460 So, I'm not sure it's that surprising that we haven't seen any condemnation of the hate

00:28:25.680 at these hate marches that have happened all across the country.

00:28:29.220 This organization is not at all interested in displaying and calling hate out,

00:28:35.180 because all they're really interested in doing, as you've said, is calling out conservatives.

00:28:39.780 It's so true, because, you know, it's like the entire thing is created to benefit the Trudeau liberals,

00:28:46.560 to make conservatives seem scary and fringe and try to connect them with obscure individuals.

00:28:51.920 They try to really just demonize conservatives for being conservatives.

00:28:55.600 I remember, Harrison, they've actually targeted you in the past. 0.98

00:28:58.840 I remember some idiotic piece coming out, well, the journalist contacted me asking if I wanted to comment, 0.90

00:29:04.620 and I looked into it a little bit. 0.99

00:29:06.240 It was like some weird guilt-by-association story,

00:29:08.960 trying to link you with someone who was part of the same student group

00:29:11.960 that you had previously led at Ryerson University.

00:29:15.260 It was just a hit piece, but it was so poorly done. 0.99

00:29:17.940 It was so pathetic. 0.98

00:29:19.040 I didn't even bother commenting on it. 0.99

00:29:21.180 It was probably read by a few dozen people.

00:29:23.680 It really just showed me that the organization is just very amateur and very ineffectual.

00:29:27.660 But, you know, in light of this news,

00:29:30.040 what do you make of that in retrospect,

00:29:32.100 that I'm trying to target you and write about you?

00:29:34.440 Well, it's funny.

00:29:34.900 I haven't really changed my opinion too much on their attempts all that time ago to try and cancel me

00:29:41.600 because it's been the same playbook that they've employed for the past few years,

00:29:46.760 which is anyone who is making some noise on campus,

00:29:52.280 anyone who seems to be effective at pushing back against what is clearly this very progressive,

00:29:58.860 very far-left agenda that we're seeing from the people at Anti-Hate Network

00:30:03.140 or the people involved in the federal government.

00:30:04.980 Anyone who's effective at that is going to eventually find themselves

00:30:07.820 the victim of some sort of Canadian Anti-Hate Network hit piece.

00:30:12.320 Nothing has ever come from it, which I find funny

00:30:14.300 because I'm sure that when they wrote it, Candace,

00:30:16.380 they assumed, oh, this was going to be the end.

00:30:18.140 I was going to get fired or I was never going to get a job again.

00:30:21.380 It doesn't seem to be the case.

00:30:23.060 Nothing has ever come from it.

00:30:24.140 And as you point out, I can't imagine more than 50 people at most have ever read the piece.

00:30:29.360 Now, this is probably a better promotion for them than they'll ever have.

00:30:32.300 But, yeah, I think that's the point to call out.

00:30:35.320 It's also worth mentioning, this group has gotten federal funding,

00:30:39.680 federal taxpayer funding, as part of the Anti-Racism Action Program.

00:30:44.560 They have to put it on the bottom of their website.

00:30:46.660 If that is not an admission that they are simply just carrying out the stated goals

00:30:52.940 of the federal government to attack conservatives, then I don't know what is.

00:30:57.120 Well, it really shows how the left has weaponized certain words.

00:31:00.480 We know that the term Islamophobia was actually invented by the Iranians in the 1970s as a way

00:31:06.980 to silence dissent, as a way to shame people who criticize Islam or Islamic groups.

00:31:12.580 I think that the same can be said about this word hate.

00:31:15.400 Just today on social media, I saw an NDP MP calling out Pierre Polyev for supposedly hateful,

00:31:22.320 homophobic and transphobic comments.

00:31:24.260 What were those comments? Pierre Polyev condemned gender ideology being imposed onto little kids.

00:31:31.460 So somehow it's hateful to oppose a radical leftist woke ideology designed to try to confuse children.

00:31:39.360 Condemning that is now hateful.

00:31:41.160 Every time I hear someone accuse someone else of hate in politics, I'm going to think about the anti-hate network

00:31:47.720 and have a little chuckle because it's just all been shown to be just a fraud and a hoax

00:31:53.600 and basically a giant grift over there.

00:31:56.500 Well, Harrison, I really appreciate your time.

00:31:58.560 I appreciate you joining us on the show.

00:32:00.900 It's great to have you on.

00:32:02.100 And to the audience, thank you so much for tuning in.

00:32:04.300 I'll be back once a week now with the Candace Malcolm Show.

00:32:06.600 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:32:11.160 Thank you.

The Candice Malcolm Show - November 16, 2023

Trudeau sides with Hamas

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