The Candice Malcolm Show - March 19, 2025


Trump says he PREFERS the Liberals in Canada


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Jasmine talks about Trump's latest comments about Pierre Polyev and why they might be good for the Trudeau government, and why it might not be so good for Justin Trudeau. She also talks about why she thinks Trump's comments about Polyev might be a good thing for the PM.

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00:03:56.620 So has Pierre Polyev really said negative things about Donald Trump?
00:04:00.680 I don't know that he has.
00:04:01.880 I think this might be the closest that we have.
00:04:04.480 Let me just play one more clip.
00:04:05.520 This is Pierre Polyev.
00:04:07.100 I think this might have been the most negative that Polyev has ever gone towards Trump and
00:04:10.720 will let the audience judge for themselves.
00:04:12.820 So let's go.
00:04:13.540 This is from March 7th.
00:04:15.780 My message to the president is this.
00:04:18.860 Knock it off.
00:04:20.320 Stop the chaos.
00:04:21.500 You are hurting your workers, your consumers, and most immediately destroying trillions
00:04:28.420 of dollars of wealth on your own stock market.
00:04:31.720 You're attacking a cherished friend of the United States, and you are strengthening America's
00:04:39.160 enemies by going after America's friends.
00:04:44.480 So I see, Jasmine, some criticisms of policies saying that we don't agree with what you're
00:04:49.440 doing, but I don't know that that Pierre Polyev has ever actually said like negative things
00:04:54.140 about Trump.
00:04:54.940 So what do you make of this entire exchange?
00:04:57.420 Do you think it might oddly be good for Pierre Polyev?
00:05:00.400 You know, I'll be honest.
00:05:01.420 I am so torn on this issue because there's been a few comments by Trump that I don't quite
00:05:08.720 understand them.
00:05:09.720 Like even that that initial interview that he had done where there was the audio that
00:05:13.640 leaked or not leaked.
00:05:14.740 It was published, but it was widely shared of him saying, oh, you know, Polyev, he's not
00:05:19.220 a he's not a mega guy.
00:05:20.640 And at first I thought about that and I thought, oh, that's going to be good for Polyev because
00:05:24.180 unfortunately, Trump derangement syndrome is very strong here in Canada.
00:05:28.680 And I the more I looked into it, though, the more I thought, what an odd statement that
00:05:34.280 was to make.
00:05:35.440 And it just seemed weird.
00:05:37.520 And, you know, then this as well, coming after Donald Trump tweeting on Truth Social, I think
00:05:43.660 it was about a week or two ago now, two weeks ago, where he said that he he was he was coming
00:05:49.920 on to the fact that Justin Trudeau and the liberals were using Trump derangement syndrome
00:05:55.140 and the tariffs in order to to boost them in the polls.
00:05:58.520 And so then to have this comment again where he says things about Polyev that don't really
00:06:03.940 make a whole lot of sense, you know, Polyev hasn't said anything harsher about Donald
00:06:09.040 Trump, surely, than than that of the liberals, the NDP, the Green or even any of their supporters.
00:06:15.380 And it just seemed kind of odd.
00:06:17.140 And, you know, do I think it's going to help them in the polls?
00:06:22.360 It's all about that media spin.
00:06:24.400 You know, I've seen some headlines already today where people are saying that this is a good
00:06:29.020 thing for the liberals, because it's showing that, oh, see, Donald Trump, he's not going
00:06:33.920 to he's not going to negotiate with Pierre Polyev because he thinks he's mean, but he
00:06:39.220 he would negotiate with with Mark Carney.
00:06:42.040 And to that, I say, does he want to negotiate with Mark Carney or does he think that Mark Carney
00:06:47.040 is weak and the liberals are weak and therefore it'll make his end goal easier?
00:06:51.740 And I truly am.
00:06:53.220 I need to get in contact with some people from Trump's team here to be like, what is happening?
00:06:57.660 I don't know. Are you trying to help them?
00:07:00.100 Are you actually just speaking off the cusp and this is what you think?
00:07:03.640 The whole situation is just so bizarre.
00:07:05.820 Moreover, I'm so disappointed in the landscape of Canadian politics where comments like this
00:07:11.120 from from the president in the United States could actually sway voters one way or another.
00:07:17.260 It's like there's so many other things that are unbelievably important, that are actual
00:07:21.420 threats to our democracy, our sovereignty, our happiness that are happening.
00:07:26.000 And nobody's paying attention to those things because somehow Donald Trump has become the
00:07:30.120 driving force of who's to be the next prime minister of the country.
00:07:33.340 And that's so disappointing.
00:07:34.680 Well, it was this black swan and moment in Canadian politics because two months ago,
00:07:39.600 Pierre Polyev was cruising to a very easy majority government.
00:07:42.880 And, you know, there was no there was no chance that the liberals had had any opportunity
00:07:48.140 to regain the polls with Justin Trudeau.
00:07:50.260 And look at how much things have changed in the last two months because of Donald Trump.
00:07:55.160 Like we went from an election where the ballot box question was going to be cost of living
00:07:59.720 and probably carbon taxes to now all that anybody cares about is Donald Trump.
00:08:04.640 So anytime Trump mentions Canada, it is like the biggest story in the country.
00:08:09.180 And we have to parse through it and try to understand.
00:08:11.000 I want to play a bit of a longer clip because, you know, the one that I showed earlier of Trump
00:08:15.980 is the one that's everyone's talking about, and he seems to endorse the liberals, presumably
00:08:21.440 because he wants Canada to be weaker.
00:08:23.880 Right.
00:08:24.480 So it's almost like a reverse endorsement saying, yeah, Canada, if you want to become the 51st
00:08:29.460 state, if you want to play into Donald Trump's hands, go ahead and vote liberal.
00:08:33.500 And that will basically deliver Canada to Donald Trump.
00:08:36.840 That's kind of what he's saying.
00:08:37.780 And you can see it more in the longer exchange.
00:08:40.720 So Laura Ingram, to her credit, really pushes back against Donald Trump. 0.88
00:08:45.040 So she asks him, like, why are you picking on Canada?
00:08:48.340 He says, here's my problem with Canada.
00:08:50.280 It was meant to be the 51st state.
00:08:52.200 And then he talks about lumber, how we can we have our own trees.
00:08:55.700 We can build our own automobiles.
00:08:57.140 We don't need Canada for trade.
00:08:59.200 And then Laura Ingram says, but you're tougher on Canada than you are on some of our adversaries.
00:09:04.340 And Trump says only because they're meant to be our 51st state.
00:09:08.100 So he's really obsessing over this idea that he wants Canada to be the 51st state.
00:09:12.480 Like, it's almost like the more he says it, the more he convinces himself that it is a
00:09:17.180 real thing.
00:09:17.680 And then Laura Ingram pushes back and says, but look, we need access to their territory. 1.00
00:09:22.760 Canada has a territorial advantage and we don't want them to get too close to Canada,
00:09:26.760 which is an obvious point from the American perspective.
00:09:29.240 It's like if you push Canada away, you're going to inevitably push them into China's sphere 0.98
00:09:34.180 of influence, which is really, really bad for America, considering sort of North American
00:09:38.060 security.
00:09:39.160 And then Trump starts sort of going off about how Canada is nasty and it's all about Justin
00:09:44.120 Trudeau.
00:09:44.620 It's all about how he dislikes Justin.
00:09:46.520 He dislikes the way that Trudeau's team handled the negotiations last time around, which I think
00:09:51.800 is all very valid concerns.
00:09:52.980 I thought that the government were incredibly disrespectful and counterproductive in their
00:09:58.120 messaging.
00:09:58.600 Like they cared so much more about bashing the Americans and bashing Trump to their Canadian
00:10:03.060 audience at the time in 2017, 18, negotiating NAFTA than they did about making a deal with
00:10:09.820 our neighbor and our close.
00:10:12.100 And then Laura, Laura Ingram and Donald Trump get into a back and forth about the trade deficit
00:10:16.180 because Trump repeats $200 billion, $200 billion.
00:10:19.840 And I don't know where he gets that number from.
00:10:21.860 And Laura Ingram saying it's not 200 billion, it's 60 billion.
00:10:24.560 So let's at least, you know, use the correct number.
00:10:26.640 And then he goes back and forth and then Trump starts talking about how he loves Canada.
00:10:29.780 And that's when we get it up.
00:10:30.980 So we put together a little montage so you can sort of see the back and forth.
00:10:34.680 This is a little bit of a longer clip that we usually play on the show.
00:10:37.720 It's about a minute and a half, but I think it's worthwhile to show.
00:10:39.520 So let's play that clip.
00:10:41.220 Here's my problem with Canada.
00:10:43.100 Canada was meant to be the 51st state because we subsidize Canada by $200 billion a year.
00:10:51.440 We don't need their cars.
00:10:52.900 We don't need their lumber.
00:10:54.460 You're tougher with Canada than you are with some of our biggest adversaries.
00:10:58.340 Only because it's meant to be our 51st state.
00:11:00.740 OK, but no, no, but listen to this for a second.
00:11:03.260 We need their territory.
00:11:04.180 They have territorial advantage.
00:11:05.560 We're not going to let them get close to China. 0.96
00:11:07.800 Look, I deal with every country indirectly or directly.
00:11:11.500 One of the nastiest countries to deal with is Canada.
00:11:14.800 The people that now this was Trudeau.
00:11:16.940 The people that that good old Justin, I call him Governor Trudeau.
00:11:22.400 He was his people were nasty and they weren't telling the truth. 1.00
00:11:27.400 They never told the truth.
00:11:28.320 And if you look at dairy products, what they've done to our farmers, do you know that Canada has a 250 percent tariff?
00:11:35.440 250.
00:11:36.220 Nobody knows that.
00:11:37.500 They charge us numbers that are crazy.
00:11:39.900 But we have a very big deficit with Canada.
00:11:43.060 And there's no reason.
00:11:44.500 Much more.
00:11:44.960 We have much more.
00:11:46.240 And you say 60 and I say 200, but it doesn't matter.
00:11:49.180 So your end game is what with them?
00:11:51.160 My end game is I don't want to have a big deficit.
00:11:53.420 I don't want us to pay 60 or 200 billion dollars to a country that if they were a state, it would be cherished.
00:12:01.660 And then he goes on about how he loves Canada and he thinks it should be a state.
00:12:05.520 And so she's asked, like, what is your end game?
00:12:07.340 And he says it's to end the deficit.
00:12:09.600 So the fact that he is endorsing the liberals and saying I prefer to deal with the liberals because Pierre hasn't been nice to me.
00:12:14.760 And, again, that's saying that he wants Canada to be weaker so that he can get a better deal to either get rid of that trade surplus or trade deficit for the United States or make Canada the 51st state.
00:12:26.580 So, again, I don't think that this is in any way can be twisted as being good for the liberals.
00:12:32.160 Oh, but they're doing it anyway.
00:12:33.340 Exactly. Exactly. Except for the fact that the media will always be there to push Trump derangement syndrome and to say that, you know, well, somehow that Mark Carney is possibly the best one to deal with President Trump.
00:12:47.020 What do you make of it all, Jasmine?
00:12:49.080 You know, I again, it's just that feeling of disappointment more than anything.
00:12:53.260 And to me, you know, not to be too unprofessional, but there's that whole like F.A.F.O. saying that goes around.
00:13:00.500 And I feel like the liberals have been seeing some of that right now.
00:13:04.400 You know, you had the Trudeau government who who quite honestly, it's bizarre to me, all of these conversations about, oh, our democracy, our sovereignty.
00:13:12.500 Meanwhile, I'm like, you completely disrespected the democratic right of the American people, of the president of the United States during the period of time that he was no longer president.
00:13:23.260 You never thought that he was going to win again.
00:13:26.840 And so you used that opportunity over the last number of years to smear him and make these illogical comparisons of Canada's conservatives, which by all accounts are not even remotely close to Republicans.
00:13:40.820 And you use that opportunity to create this fear in your nation that that simply doesn't exist.
00:13:46.580 There's no real reason why any of it needs to exist that I've been able to find thus far.
00:13:50.920 And you didn't think he was going to win.
00:13:53.460 And guess what?
00:13:54.260 He did.
00:13:54.840 And that's probably why Trudeau's on stage, almost tearing up.
00:13:58.360 It wasn't supposed to be like this.
00:14:00.500 America had their chance to vote their first women, blah, blah, blah. 1.00
00:14:04.360 As he proceeds to then go and crown Mark Carney as the supreme leader of Canada.
00:14:08.600 But, you know, the whole situation, I think, has just been so overblown.
00:14:14.080 It's so illogical.
00:14:15.560 And it's just unbelievable and deeply concerning as well, the narratives being crafted from it all.
00:14:21.980 And I do believe personally that I think that that I don't know that that was necessarily an endorsement, but it kind of was at the same time.
00:14:31.040 But I think, moreover, the biggest picture here is, OK, well, Donald Trump is saying that he wants to annex Canada, essentially.
00:14:39.020 That's the language, right, that people are putting out there.
00:14:42.580 And he's saying that him getting what he wants will be easier to achieve under a liberal government.
00:14:48.900 Oh, the conservatives haven't been very nice to me.
00:14:51.100 And that's just a bizarre comment to make to begin with.
00:14:53.800 And so I think the bigger picture that people need to focus on here is, OK, well, listen, if you if you don't like Donald Trump, well, you should probably like Pierre Polyev and the conservatives then.
00:15:05.760 Because, you know, apparently Donald Trump doesn't view them as as somebody who he can just stomp all over.
00:15:12.760 He views them as somebody with a bit more of a spine.
00:15:15.680 But of course, you have, you know, the the mainstream media not at all portraying that message.
00:15:20.180 And instead, I've seen so many bizarre takes on this story since it since it broke of people who are using it as, oh, see, this is why team Carney.
00:15:28.180 I'm like, what is happening in this country?
00:15:30.140 I don't understand what is wrong with the minds of some people who cannot see this bigger picture.
00:15:36.480 Well, it's one of those things that had it been reversed.
00:15:38.640 So say Donald Trump had come out and said, I don't like the liberals.
00:15:41.820 I prefer conservatives.
00:15:42.960 I want the conservatives to win.
00:15:44.220 Then the media would have spun that as if you imagine is a mega.
00:15:47.820 And and the reason that they want this is because they want to turn North America into like the hands made tail or something.
00:15:53.820 And so it's like either either way, whatever whatever Trump says, the media and the liberal party will go into like complete spin mode to use that to promote Mark Carney and to criticize Pierre Polyev.
00:16:05.040 But then I have seen a lot of criticism of Pierre Polyev on the political right as well.
00:16:09.360 We've talked about this before on the show that people wish that he had made a message that was just different than the liberals.
00:16:15.740 Like right now, when it comes to Trump and trade, there's not much daylight between the liberals and the conservatives, even with the retaliatory tariffs that both parties agree that we need to implement.
00:16:27.080 I personally think that tariffs are a terrible idea and a much better approach would have been to try to negotiate with Trump and to try to say, look, Donald Trump is raising some very valid points.
00:16:36.740 We need to crack down on our fentanyl industry.
00:16:39.420 We need to secure our border.
00:16:40.680 We need to fix mass immigration. 1.00
00:16:42.100 We need to fix illegal immigration. 1.00
00:16:43.860 Let's use this as an opportunity to make Canada better and fix so many of the mistakes that Dustin Trudeau made over the last decade.
00:16:48.780 Instead, we kind of have this who's going to say who's going to be the bigger, you know, who's going to push back against Donald Trump more and who's going to thump their chest harder and wrap themselves in the Canadian flag more.
00:16:59.920 And so we saw more of that from Pierre Polyev.
00:17:01.760 So in response to Trump's comment this morning, Polyev went on to X and he wrote the following.
00:17:07.640 He said, last night, President Donald Trump endorsed Mark Carney.
00:17:10.820 Why?
00:17:11.600 Because, as Trump said, he's easier to deal with and knows that I will be a tough negotiator and always put Canada first.
00:17:17.700 Carney is weak and would cave to Trump's demands, just like he did when he moved his company headquarter from Canada to New York City.
00:17:24.740 Canadians don't want a weak and conflicted leader.
00:17:27.080 They want a strong prime minister who will put Canada first.
00:17:30.920 Pierre Polyev was speaking at a press conference in Sudbury, Ontario, and he basically just said the same thing.
00:17:36.280 I won't play the clips, but he basically just repeated that message.
00:17:40.240 So, Jasmine, do you think that that is an appropriate response and do you think it will help Pierre Polyev?
00:17:44.780 Well, I personally enjoyed the response.
00:17:47.700 But having said that, I do think a lot of people are tired of hearing about some of the same talking points when it comes to Mark Carney.
00:17:54.880 Do I think it will help him?
00:17:56.540 Not particularly.
00:17:58.080 I have been feeling.
00:18:00.340 I just don't.
00:18:01.580 I don't know that the response I assumed the Conservative Party would have to all of this has certainly not been met.
00:18:07.400 I it's bizarre to me.
00:18:09.120 And I understand, of course, we have this Canada first.
00:18:11.880 We have this this unbelievable Trump derangement syndrome.
00:18:15.620 That's the best way to describe it, where as a party leader, it really does appear that Donald Trump is going to be the winning ballot question, really.
00:18:24.240 Which is really unfortunate.
00:18:26.040 And there are so many other things that Conservatives traditionally would do that they just haven't.
00:18:33.060 They have kind of just mimicked a lot of the same talking points.
00:18:36.280 And it's bizarre to me that no party at all has said we are going to work with Donald Trump to make sure that we maintain all of this.
00:18:46.540 Rather, the conversation is about, oh, well, you know, we're going to we're going to keep doing all the same stuff that we're doing.
00:18:52.620 And we're just we're going to ask, you know, Donald Trump to to not say those things anymore because it's not true.
00:19:00.760 It's just it is I don't know.
00:19:02.800 The response back from all parties has has felt very weak to me and not productive.
00:19:07.580 It really it's just the longest story of all time at this point.
00:19:12.400 The fact that we here we are how many months later since we first got got word of this and the same the same things are being said from both parties is beyond me.
00:19:22.020 Like somebody needs to actually come to the table finally and say, yeah, we're not going to tax our citizens even more.
00:19:29.660 How many reports have we heard of other industries as well coming out saying that the Trump tariffs will hurt, but the Canadian tariffs are going to hurt them so much more in terms of their industry.
00:19:40.920 And it's a tough spot to be in.
00:19:42.460 I understand that politically.
00:19:44.780 But also, I think it's really important to recognize the bigger picture here.
00:19:48.400 And you're never going to win this by just reiterating the same things.
00:19:52.140 And, oh, we're just going to tear a few back.
00:19:53.760 That's silly.
00:19:54.580 We need to actually come to the table.
00:19:56.200 And what do you want, Mr. Trump?
00:19:59.260 What here's what we want.
00:20:01.240 OK, let's get some of those negotiations going, because I don't I don't know why some people may call me silly, but I still have quite a hard time believing that this is actually about Donald Trump wanting to annex Canada.
00:20:14.380 There is no way Donald Trump would want even more Democrats in the United States.
00:20:20.440 Well, exactly.
00:20:21.440 I mean, I like I tend to think that at first he said it as a joke.
00:20:24.960 And then the more he said it, the more he started to convince himself that it's true that Canada, you know, we rely entirely on American trade and American defense.
00:20:34.060 And so if we don't have like our own market that we can survive without American trade and we can't defend ourselves and Canadian politics is built upon everybody bashing the Americans and the smug anti-Americanism that exists mostly in the wrench in Canada, but certainly among the elites in politics and the media.
00:20:53.240 And it's like, why would they put up with that?
00:20:55.120 And it is interesting to see.
00:20:57.520 Now, I want to shift gears a little bit here, Desmond, and talk about Mark Carney, because he was in Europe and it was a little strange, right?
00:21:02.720 He becomes prime minister over the weekend.
00:21:05.160 He gets sworn in on Friday.
00:21:06.440 And the very first thing he does is head to Europe, which is not something a Canadian prime minister would typically do, right?
00:21:11.900 The Americans are our closest and most important ally and partner.
00:21:16.020 And we're having a dispute with them.
00:21:17.280 You would think he would go down to Washington or even better, you would think he would just stay in Canada.
00:21:21.080 Like he just became prime minister.
00:21:22.080 You'd think he'd like go and do events in his own country.
00:21:24.800 But instead, he jets off to Europe.
00:21:26.840 And we covered this extensively on the show yesterday, but I just want to reiterate a few points.
00:21:31.140 So I think that Mark Carney did this because he wanted to appear like he was shifting away from the Americans and say, look, I can rely on all of my old alliances and friendships when I was the governor of the Bank of England and when I was a chairman of the World Economic Forum.
00:21:45.800 And when I was a special envoy to the United Nations, look at my fancy elite globalist friends.
00:21:50.400 I'm going to go over there and sort of flex my globalist muscles.
00:21:54.040 And he said, actually, interestingly, he said that we don't need another country to validate our sovereignty.
00:22:00.780 So presumably a dig on the Americans.
00:22:02.740 I think he wanted to shift focus to Europe.
00:22:04.940 But the only problem is that the Europeans didn't want any of it.
00:22:08.060 They weren't having any of it.
00:22:09.140 And so Mark Carney, first, he lands in Paris, France to meet with Emmanuel Macron.
00:22:14.960 Macron couldn't be bothered to go meet him at the airport.
00:22:17.040 So instead, he's met by some deputy of the National Assembly, like a lower level political person, which I think was a snub.
00:22:24.620 And it was embarrassing to Carney because it showed that, you know, the president of France couldn't even be bothered to go meet him.
00:22:30.500 And then he moves on and he goes to England and he meets with King Charles.
00:22:36.740 He meets with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
00:22:39.320 But Keir Starmer refuses to do a joint press conference with him.
00:22:42.900 He refuses, Keir Starmer refuses to take any questions.
00:22:45.700 And the way that the British press were reporting it was because Keir Starmer is dealing with his own sort of feud with the Americans.
00:22:52.440 And I think he thought that appearing with Mark Carney would make him look bad in front of the Americans.
00:22:57.680 And so he was like trying to distance himself from Mark Carney's.
00:23:00.640 I'm going to play a clip.
00:23:01.380 This is from Sky News reporting in the UK, explaining Mark Carney's visit and why the UK basically just didn't want to have a public event with him.
00:23:09.580 Let's show that clip. 0.95
00:23:11.640 Mark Carney, Canada's new prime minister back in London, strengthening old alliances as his country comes under sustained economic and political attack from its American neighbour.
00:23:21.540 He was looking for firm support from his British counterpart.
00:23:30.180 We're at a point in history where the world is being reordered.
00:23:35.120 And your leadership, the leadership of the UK, I think can be decisive.
00:23:40.820 There were warm words from Starmer.
00:23:42.680 The relationship between our two countries has always been strong to sovereign allies, so much in common.
00:23:51.780 But no joint press conference.
00:23:54.200 The British prime minister wasn't taking questions.
00:23:57.220 He has our own relationship with the US to think about.
00:24:00.180 So Mark Carney is sort of a liability and he wasn't met with open arms.
00:24:05.240 He wasn't able to negotiate any kind of deal in Europe.
00:24:07.660 So he left Europe empty handed with no trade deal, no new relationship, nothing to show for himself.
00:24:15.260 And the only thing that did happen was he had that embarrassing feud with his own doting press, like the people who were on his side, like Rosemary Barton of the CBC, you know, speaking very condescendingly to them and sort of unnecessarily picking a fight with him.
00:24:30.160 So from my perspective, Mark Carney's entire trip to London, to England was a total disaster.
00:24:36.580 He came home empty handed.
00:24:37.480 And that that is really a story that our prime minister wasn't able to deliver on anything.
00:24:43.340 You know, he went to Europe.
00:24:45.500 Yeah, he went to Europe to try to show that we don't need Americans. 0.98
00:24:47.800 And he came back with basically the idea that we actually do need the Americans because nobody else wants to be our partner.
00:24:54.820 What do you think of all that?
00:24:56.620 I have so many thoughts about that and things that I'm potentially nitpicking just a little bit too much.
00:25:02.640 But I think in general, of course, it is important for a new leader to go and meet all of your allies around the world.
00:25:10.460 Obviously, the fact that it was Europe and it wasn't, I don't know, maybe China to help with the 100 percent tariffs that the media is simply just not outraged about at all, that is going to absolutely wipe out a lot of industry in the prairies, especially.
00:25:25.960 That's bizarre. It's bizarre that it wasn't with the U.S.
00:25:29.380 I think I think overall, I don't think that Donald Trump would take Mark Carney seriously at this point until he wins a federal election.
00:25:36.720 So perhaps that could have something to do with it as well.
00:25:39.780 The one thing that I will say, and this is me potentially just nitpicking a little much, is the fact that, you know, you have Donald Trump who has been going after everybody.
00:25:51.600 It's not just Canada. It's far from just Canada.
00:25:53.540 And one thing that Donald Trump has been very, very particular about has been to remove the elites, the globalist initiatives and agendas out of America.
00:26:05.800 And in that same time frame, you have Mark Carney, who is elected, who certainly if you do some research, you can put some pieces together there.
00:26:13.600 And then you also have the leaders in both France and the U.K. who are all a part of the same types of organizations.
00:26:20.600 And it's really fascinating to me, and perhaps this is just something more to think about, that our prime minister, Mark Carney,
00:26:28.440 rather than going to mend relationships with something that's going to hurt our economy even more,
00:26:35.060 he decided to go and, I don't know, hang out with, I guess, for a few days,
00:26:40.860 some other leaders whose countries economically and culturally are very much in the same disaster that ours are.
00:26:49.160 And, you know, they say, oh, we're going to change things.
00:26:51.620 Well, it doesn't sound like you are, actually.
00:26:53.740 And here we are again, you go, you go down and, of course, you know, cool, he used to live there.
00:26:58.640 He's already, he knows King Charles.
00:27:01.020 He used to be in their, their box over at Wimbledon.
00:27:05.680 And so it's just interesting to me that he goes there and you don't have a single country coming to Canada's defense publicly at all.
00:27:14.680 And then on top of that, I feel like it almost just further drives the wedge in between Canada and the USA.
00:27:22.320 And I don't understand what the purpose was.
00:27:25.220 I think it was a massive waste of dollars, not to mention the fact that Justin Trudeau and Melanie Jolie were both in those exact same regions weeks ago discussing the exact same things.
00:27:36.060 So what was the point?
00:27:38.900 Exactly.
00:27:39.400 What was the point other than he came home empty handed?
00:27:41.340 Like if he had accomplished something, you know, the media would be praising, singing his praises and talking about how wonderful he is.
00:27:46.860 But he came back, I want to read from Dan Knight, who is a writer and we've had him on the show before.
00:27:52.240 He wrote this on Substack.
00:27:53.500 He wrote that Mark Carney's European delegation was a total disaster, came back with no trade deals, no answers on his financial conflicts, which we'll get to later in the show.
00:28:01.480 And no real plan on Trump's tariffs, just more lies, gaslighting and excuses.
00:28:08.220 And one of the things that Dan highlights in that piece, Jasmine, is this exchange where Mark Carney is talking about how we don't need another country to validate our sovereignty.
00:28:19.080 So why would he say that?
00:28:20.920 Like, obviously, that's the case.
00:28:23.200 But I think the idea was that he was looking for another country to validate our sovereignty.
00:28:27.600 He was hoping that the UK and France would validate our sovereignty.
00:28:31.280 But instead, they don't want anything to do with us under Mark Carney, because maybe they see him as an illegitimate leader.
00:28:36.420 He hasn't been elected by the people.
00:28:37.720 He has no business leading the country.
00:28:39.260 We should have a general election.
00:28:40.960 But he's too afraid to.
00:28:42.860 So let's quickly play this clip of Mark Carney saying we don't need another country to validate our sovereignty.
00:28:48.540 We don't need another country to validate our sovereignty.
00:28:53.240 We are sovereign.
00:28:54.280 We can diversify our trading relationships.
00:28:56.300 We can build new trading corridors.
00:28:57.800 And we can fully realize what Canada is, which is an energy superpower in both clean and conventional energy.
00:29:04.280 And that's exactly what we're going to do.
00:29:07.500 I mean, if that's the case, you don't actually have to say it, right?
00:29:10.420 I was just thinking that.
00:29:12.160 Yeah, I was just thinking that.
00:29:13.220 Like, if that was the case, and these tariffs, yeah, sure, they're going to suck for some industries in particular.
00:29:19.600 But if that was the case, you wouldn't have to say every sentence over the last number of months now with that being an opening line.
00:29:29.520 It's just so silly to me.
00:29:31.480 And, you know, for him, oh, we are so rich in our resources and energy and blah, blah.
00:29:35.900 No, we are not.
00:29:36.960 Because you have intentionally put so many measures in place to ensure that we don't have access to those things at all.
00:29:45.840 And then, oh, yeah, we're, you know, even this, too.
00:29:48.300 He goes on all the time.
00:29:49.440 Oh, yeah, we're going to build pipelines.
00:29:50.980 He says it in English, not in French.
00:29:52.500 He did that again just two days ago, if I'm not mistaken.
00:29:55.460 And then you put Stephen Guibault as the leader of Quebec, essentially.
00:30:00.680 Not actually, but I don't remember what the actual title was.
00:30:03.100 But then you put him there and it's like, OK, great.
00:30:06.220 So I guess we're just never getting pipelines, I suppose.
00:30:09.280 And, you know, it's just the entire response to this situation has been nothing but weakness.
00:30:14.180 And I fault all parties for that, because if this wasn't an issue, if you were a very strong country that was very united, you know, you weren't in a post-national state where you had increasing unemployment rates, increasing homelessness rates and all of these awful things that are just destroying our society.
00:30:32.540 If you really were what you claim to be, the moment that Donald Trump would have said that, it would have been met with a laugh.
00:30:39.700 And you would have just like, well, what a stupid thing to say.
00:30:41.860 And you would have never given it attention.
00:30:43.460 And do you want to know what would have happened if you never gave it attention?
00:30:45.880 I'm willing to bet Donald Trump likely still wouldn't be saying that.
00:30:49.600 But you gave it so much attention.
00:30:51.340 You ran on it.
00:30:52.520 And that's why the situation has gotten so much worse, because you're using that almost for political points.
00:30:57.220 And unfortunately, it's working.
00:30:58.660 Well, you're right.
00:31:00.520 And just even the idea, like, I think that Mark Carney really has benefited from Donald Trump.
00:31:06.960 He should be sending flowers to Donald Trump, thanking him for making Trump the biggest issue in the campaign, because then it allows Mark Carney to come back on this.
00:31:14.900 Like, I'm a trusted hand.
00:31:15.880 Look at what I've done for the economy.
00:31:17.320 Of course, when we look into those claims, they're not entirely true.
00:31:20.460 Like he claimed that he helped Paul Martin balance the budget.
00:31:23.340 But yeah, he was a university student when Paul Martin balanced the budget and he didn't live in Canada.
00:31:28.060 He became a banker for Goldman Sachs between Hong Kong, Tokyo and New York.
00:31:32.320 So he wasn't even around at all when the balance of the budgets were balanced.
00:31:35.860 He claimed that he helped balance the budget and steer the ship for the Harper government in 2008 financial crisis.
00:31:41.560 And Harper came out and said, actually, that wasn't you at all.
00:31:43.980 That was Jim Flaherty, the late Jim Flaherty, the finance minister.
00:31:46.240 And so he tends to, like, overinflate his role.
00:31:50.100 And the sad thing is that too many Canadians are falling for it.
00:31:54.340 But, Jasmine, I think the reality is that Mark Carney's just not very good at this.
00:31:57.940 Like, I think that people have this idea of Mark Carney.
00:32:00.540 Well, first of all, I would guess that fewer than, like, 25% of Canadians even knows who Mark Carney is.
00:32:06.960 Like, I don't think that the average Canadian could tell you who the prime minister is at this point in time.
00:32:11.780 Mark Carney was a, like, a civil servant, a backroom operative, an economic advisor, and a globalist banker.
00:32:20.260 He didn't necessarily have the highest profile.
00:32:22.720 But the people in the know, like the elites in the media, they all know Mark Carney really well, and they all love Mark Carney.
00:32:28.340 But the more that we see of Mark Carney, the more we realize that he doesn't have a lot of experience in this.
00:32:33.840 His temperament isn't necessarily very good for this.
00:32:37.280 He kind of has this, like, very condescending, talking down to you.
00:32:41.440 I know better than you.
00:32:42.420 I'm smarter than you.
00:32:43.640 And how dare you question me?
00:32:45.420 And this really came out in the exchange with the legacy media in London on Monday.
00:32:50.840 I played this clip.
00:32:51.700 I think it's worth playing it again.
00:32:53.960 Oh, sorry.
00:32:54.380 This was, yeah, interacting with the press.
00:32:58.280 So we just put together a short little montage to refresh everybody's memory of how Mark Carney was dealing with a press who want nothing more than to praise him and love him.
00:33:07.140 Right.
00:33:07.800 They, you know, they're interested in the conflict of interest because Canadians are. 1.00
00:33:11.960 They would never touch any of the deeper social questions that we have about Mark Carney or any of the bigger controversies surrounding his time in the UK.
00:33:20.560 They, you know, this is like pretty kid glove level stuff.
00:33:23.300 Like, tell us about your money and where it's investing and whether it's going to be a conflict.
00:33:27.420 And even that, he can't handle the pressure.
00:33:29.960 And I think that's what this clip really shows.
00:33:31.220 So play the clip and then we'll react to it.
00:33:34.300 With Canadians not being aware of what potential conflicts of interest.
00:33:37.780 What possible conflict would you have, Stephanie?
00:33:40.240 Stephanie, I'm complying with the rules.
00:33:42.180 I'm complying with the rules in advance.
00:33:45.400 Point of view.
00:33:46.780 That's very difficult to believe.
00:33:50.420 Look inside yourself, Rosemary.
00:33:52.320 I mean, you start from a, you start from a prior of conflict and ill, ill, ill will.
00:34:03.620 I have served in the private sector.
00:34:05.440 I'm complying with all the rules.
00:34:09.940 Your line of questioning is trying to invent new rules.
00:34:13.880 So to me, all that speaks to is just, I mean, his character and like a total inability to have like anyone question him and his authority.
00:34:22.780 And, you know, total like being thin skinned as well.
00:34:26.480 Being not a very good politician and obviously trying to evade something.
00:34:29.500 Like he doesn't want people to know where his money is invested.
00:34:31.800 And he won't just kind of come clean and say, yes, the ethics commissioner rules say 120 days.
00:34:36.680 But given the special circumstances that I was just selected by my party to be the interim prime minister, which in Canada just means the prime minister.
00:34:42.800 And I haven't been democratically elected.
00:34:44.680 And we're about to go into a campaign.
00:34:46.220 And Canadians deserve to know where all of my millions and millions of dollars are invested.
00:34:50.180 Here it is.
00:34:52.060 Like just, you know, as a sign of goodwill, here it is.
00:34:55.560 He doesn't want to do that.
00:34:56.900 And so he's playing on these technicalities.
00:34:59.100 But again, I just think it really shows a lack of character here.
00:35:02.660 What do you think, Jasmine?
00:35:03.680 I was so appalled by how a lot of that went.
00:35:08.660 The look inside yourself, like, whoa.
00:35:10.840 And also, too, you know, you have to keep in mind that throughout that entire press conference that he had done and the questions that followed, the amount of times that he said something disparaging about Pierre Polyev, about Donald Trump.
00:35:21.760 And it was definitely with ill will and you were trying to craft something that didn't necessarily need to be there.
00:35:28.720 So I always just think that's funny when somebody does something and then responds very differently when they assume it's being done to them.
00:35:35.840 But, you know, for people to want, I understand, sure, it's been a little bit of a big talking point.
00:35:40.680 And I think rightfully so.
00:35:42.000 I think it's pretty bizarre.
00:35:43.400 And while the ethics commissioner, they have up to 120 days to release their report and make it public information.
00:35:49.780 It could absolutely happen in the next 20 days.
00:35:52.080 We don't know.
00:35:52.620 That's the maximum time frame that it takes.
00:35:55.100 But I think it's rather fascinating to have Mark Carney, who has gone up on stage several times now and discussed net zero.
00:36:02.780 He has discussed carbon credits.
00:36:04.920 He has discussed central banking, digital banking.
00:36:09.300 These are all things that Mark Carney, as far back as 2015, if I'm not mistaken, has been advocating for.
00:36:15.900 Many of these things he has actually designed how they would roll out.
00:36:19.400 And he has unofficially lobbied governments to to impose certain measures about these very things.
00:36:26.660 And so it's bizarre to me to have him say what possible conflicts of interest could there be while in the same breath, also discussing these programs, initiatives, ideologies that he's very much involved in, that his investments have have very much been tied to,
00:36:40.400 that have made him achieve more wealth in a few short years, really, than any Canadian households will see in their entire lifetime.
00:36:48.360 So I think it's a very fair question to ask.
00:36:50.600 And, you know, of course, we won't know the answer of that.
00:36:53.620 And even when the ethics commissioner comes out, it's not like we're going to have this full, complete list of all of the pieces that are tied together.
00:37:01.360 There will be a lot of information in there that you'll be able to see, knowing of certain conflicts of interest, at least.
00:37:07.160 But it's just really bizarre to me.
00:37:10.320 And I don't mean to say, oh, well, because you're being silent about it, that means that you're hiding something.
00:37:14.840 I'm saying that I I'm I'm assuming that you're probably hiding something based on your past and based on your past involvement with multiple governments, most notably, obviously, the liberal government with Justin Trudeau.
00:37:29.980 So that's why people think that you're hiding something.
00:37:32.400 And when you respond like that, if it was really so easy to say, you would think that just in order to take that talking point away from the conservatives, he would just say it.
00:37:42.200 Well, exactly. And I mean, you kind of danced around it, but like he does have a financial stake potentially in imposing these regulations and ensuring that some of these green schemes go back to other things that he's been on the board of and investing in.
00:37:56.360 So like this idea that he has come in, he's our prime minister, he was obviously coronated long before the Liberal Party vote voted for him.
00:38:03.540 It was decided that he was going to be the leader. He was placed in this position.
00:38:08.120 Anyone who posed a real threat to him, the Liberal Party found a way to disqualify them.
00:38:12.280 They had 400000 members that were registered to vote and only 150 of them, only 150000 of them actually voted.
00:38:19.420 So just like so many questions around how this guy was put into power.
00:38:23.420 And you're wondering, like, why would anyone want to take the job when the Liberal Party was so down and out that, you know, there must be some reason why someone convinced him, hey, go be prime minister.
00:38:32.860 What is it? Is it to do with finances? And I think this is interesting because even the legacy media, which I've said, and I'll say it again, they want Mark Kearney to win.
00:38:41.000 They love Mark Kearney. They respect him. They think he's wonderful.
00:38:44.500 They think he's like a really nice guy.
00:38:46.020 They talk glowingly about him and they don't have a problem with any of the way that he's been installed.
00:38:51.180 They don't have a problem with proroguing a parliament or anything like that.
00:38:54.420 The reason that they're asking those questions is because it's so blatantly obvious that there could be a conflict of interest and that this is not how it's done in Canada.
00:39:02.320 That even the press who would, in any other circumstance, do anything to defend Mark Kearney, to shield Mark Kearney from difficult questions, to shield him from even answering questions that Canadians deserve to know, like where he stands on divisive social issues.
00:39:17.480 They don't want to ask him anything about that.
00:39:19.660 What they do want to ask him about is this, and he can't even take it, which to me, again, it's just like really, really eye-opening.
00:39:27.800 And I think that he obviously has to answer for it, and the Conservatives are making a big deal about this as well.
00:39:36.120 So we reported this over at Juno News that the Conservatives demand that Mark Kearney reveal his Brookfield stock options.
00:39:43.860 And so one of the things that we learned is that he got a multi-million dollar stock option deal.
00:39:48.540 So, Jasmine, even if he puts his money into a blind trust, he knows that he has a lot of money in Brookfield.
00:39:56.580 And there was a report that just came out as we were coming on air that shows that while he was chair of Brookfield, the company's assets increased by like 20% or something like that, whereas in Canada, they actually decreased.
00:40:08.440 So Canada, they lost jobs.
00:40:10.820 Obviously, they moved their headquarters out of Canada, even though it's a Canadian company.
00:40:14.060 It's now a majority of its assets are in the U.S. and American companies, which goes to show like even a Canadian asset management company doesn't want to invest in Canada because of these liberal policies.
00:40:24.260 But I think that this is a bigger issue.
00:40:26.940 I know it's a bit complicated and maybe it's not, you know, really easy for Canadians to understand.
00:40:32.180 But the more you kind of look into his finances and the way it's structured and this blind trust and his refusal on him saying, what possible conflicts could I have?
00:40:39.300 And now coming out, admitting that he could have conflicts and that he's going to allow the ethics commissioner to create a screen.
00:40:46.280 This was reported in the National Post.
00:40:47.960 As you can see there, Kearney admits to potential conflicts of interest with Brookfield after saying like 24 hours earlier, like what possible conflict could I have in fading outrage?
00:40:56.960 You know, I think that that it is shown that there is a problem here that even the media can't ignore.
00:41:02.620 What do you think?
00:41:03.840 I think the fact that you have legacy media commenting on it is a very big signal that obviously there is something too big to ignore.
00:41:11.720 And, you know, conflicts of interest, they arise all the time with various politicians.
00:41:16.200 That's it's not like this is anything new.
00:41:18.280 The amount of money that he has, it's not like that is anything new.
00:41:21.880 You know, it doesn't really at the end of the day.
00:41:24.260 It's annoying to me because obviously you're being touted as an outsider who is I've been around the world.
00:41:30.420 I know what to do.
00:41:31.360 I know what Canadians want.
00:41:32.560 I'm like, you haven't even lived here in 10 years up until January when you bought a property.
00:41:36.880 But OK, like I just think overall, you know, he's so unbelievably unrelatable.
00:41:42.100 And it's bizarre, the shielding that's happening and the fact that finally you have some people saying that something here isn't right and we're going to start calling you out on it.
00:41:52.400 And to have him react in such a way is just bizarre to me.
00:41:56.020 And also, you know, more than that, it's been shocking to see the left eat itself alive right now and the amount of people who have been coming after Rosemary Barton for her her follow up question.
00:42:08.980 Oh, she was so disrespectful. 1.00
00:42:10.600 How is she so disrespectful for saying what she said? 0.91
00:42:14.100 Like, like that sounds like good journalism.
00:42:16.460 Actually, thank goodness.
00:42:17.720 Maybe we can get back to more of that because that's how it should be.
00:42:20.320 You're supposed to press and get answers rather than shield people.
00:42:24.180 But I do think that Mark Carney has a very lengthy rap sheet.
00:42:28.300 He has obviously been involved in influencing policy.
00:42:31.220 He has discussed that as well on the world stage at various conferences.
00:42:35.860 There's clips of him discussing his influence and policy.
00:42:38.660 And while, yes, he's in a blind trust, you know, that doesn't mean that all of his assets and investments are no longer there.
00:42:47.420 He still knows exactly what all of them are.
00:42:50.520 It's good if there are some screens put in place.
00:42:52.640 We don't know how long they'll be put in place for.
00:42:54.840 But at the end of the day, you know, the longer that he keeps talking about climate policy, you can guarantee that there's something of his that is probably benefiting from that.
00:43:04.960 That's how he has made all of his money.
00:43:07.520 Well, isn't it interesting that people are going after Rosemary Barton, right?
00:43:10.080 Because presumably a journalist's job is actually to hold a politician accountable.
00:43:13.680 But everybody knows the real deal here, that the CBC is the beneficiary of a liberal government because it was Justin Trudeau over and over again every time there's an election promising more money to the CBC, promising newspaper bailouts to Canada's failing newspapers.
00:43:28.840 And so these companies, including the CBC, primarily the CBC, but also all the other newspapers now, are funded by the liberals.
00:43:36.060 And therefore, it is expected that they will toe the party line and push for liberals.
00:43:41.560 And so when they don't, liberals get very upset.
00:43:43.800 And they're like, well, wait a minute.
00:43:45.400 We pay you.
00:43:46.280 So you better damn well do what we say.
00:43:48.580 Fall in line, Rosemary Barton.
00:43:50.140 Rosemary Barton pretending to be an independent journalist and saying, I can ask whatever I want.
00:43:53.920 But that's not true.
00:43:54.840 That's not true.
00:43:55.460 And I know that she will fall in line.
00:43:56.760 She won't be pushing back at Mark Carney like that.
00:43:59.400 Again, I'm sure she got a stern talking to from her boss and from liberal press secretaries that we know call up members of the press all the time and yell at them if they ask questions or if they write headlines that the liberals don't approve of.
00:44:13.240 We've been reporting on that for years at True North and at Juneau News.
00:44:16.300 That's how Ottawa works.
00:44:17.760 And I just want to throw in one more story into the mix here, Jasmine, which is that in the middle of all this, Pierre Polyev announced that the Conservative Party will not invite members of the legacy media onto the campaign plane and campaign bus during the upcoming election.
00:44:34.580 So it's widely rumored that we are going to be heading into an election as soon as this weekend.
00:44:39.760 And so everybody's getting ready.
00:44:41.660 All the campaigns are getting ready.
00:44:43.000 People are gearing up.
00:44:44.380 And in the midst of that, we got an email that was sent to the media from Jenny Byrne.
00:44:48.740 Jenny Byrne is the national campaign manager for the Conservative Party.
00:44:52.540 And she basically just says, well, read from it, says, hello, I'm writing to you today to update you on the plan for the Conservative Party campaign.
00:44:59.760 We want to first stress that we'll be running a campaign that ensures strong, fair and equitable media access.
00:45:04.640 As you're aware, costs for travel have risen considerably.
00:45:07.340 At the same time, so is the capacity for digital and remote access to public events.
00:45:10.980 And then she just goes on to say that they will not be a media, there will not be a media contingent on a Conservative bus or plane, though we welcome and encourage participation at all public events.
00:45:23.000 So for those who might not understand what this is all about, during a national campaign, even during provincial campaigns, each party will travel around the country or the province, sometimes in a plane, sometimes in a bus.
00:45:35.300 And as a journalist, as a member of the media, you can pay, and it's quite a hefty fee, you pay thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of dollars to embed yourself into the campaign so that you can travel, so that you can get extra special access to the party leader and go around to events, and then you go and write about them.
00:45:52.640 And so this has just sort of been part of Canadian politics for a very long time.
00:45:56.300 And well within their prerogative, well within their rights, the Conservatives are saying, no, we don't want the legacy media on the inside.
00:46:02.360 We don't want them following us around.
00:46:03.540 We don't want them to have this kind of special access to us.
00:46:07.120 We would actually rather just go around the country and talk to Canadians and talk to local journalists.
00:46:11.720 So if we are in Manitoba, we want to talk to the reporters from Manitoba.
00:46:15.960 If we're in Newfoundland, we want to talk to the reporters from Newfoundland.
00:46:18.520 We don't need these Ottawa journalists who, let's be real, they all hate the Conservatives.
00:46:23.980 None of them will be voting for the Conservatives.
00:46:25.900 They will be going out of their way to nitpick Pierre Polyev, to look at him with a microscope, to try to create a scandal over anything that he does.
00:46:35.260 Anything possibly that he does is exactly what they did with Andrew Scheer, is what they did before that with Stephen Harper.
00:46:41.240 To a lesser extent, Aaron O'Toole, I think Aaron O'Toole was his own problem in the 2021 campaign, but still the media were going out of their way.
00:46:48.820 I just remember one thing.
00:46:50.260 I think there was a video at some point where Aaron O'Toole had gone for a run, and then he came home, and he asked his wife to get him a beer so that they could, like, sit and have a relaxing evening.
00:47:01.280 And the media made a huge story about it.
00:47:02.880 Oh, my goodness.
00:47:03.620 How dare this man ask his wife to get him a beer?
00:47:07.220 What a sexist.
00:47:07.900 What a horrible person.
00:47:08.760 You know what the media does.
00:47:09.720 They do it.
00:47:10.180 They always do it.
00:47:10.960 They do it time and time again.
00:47:12.120 And so, you know what?
00:47:13.360 Good for the Conservatives.
00:47:14.460 Good for Pierre Polyev to say, you know what?
00:47:16.480 You're not invited.
00:47:17.380 You're not allowed.
00:47:17.860 You can't come on our plane.
00:47:18.960 You can't come on our bus.
00:47:19.520 And just to remind the viewer that the Liberals do this all the time, right?
00:47:23.000 It was Andrew Lawton reporting for True North.
00:47:25.500 We wanted to embed him on the Liberal campaign in 2019.
00:47:28.420 We were willing to pay the money.
00:47:29.680 We were willing to do everything.
00:47:31.040 They openly allowed all the other media outlets to do it, and they said no to True North because they didn't like Andrew Lawton or because they believed that, you know, independent media shouldn't be on the campaign.
00:47:40.380 We ended up suing the Trudeau government during that campaign.
00:47:43.140 We won, and so Andrew Lawton eventually did get to go and ask questions of the Prime Minister.
00:47:47.320 But the Liberals do this stuff all the time.
00:47:49.000 Nobody cares.
00:47:50.320 The Conservatives did it.
00:47:51.220 And, oh, my goodness, did the media lose their mind?
00:47:53.520 So just a few examples here.
00:47:55.960 We had Toronto Star columnist Althea Raj writing about it on X just saying that it won't happen.
00:48:03.040 And, oh, my goodness, how dare they, basically.
00:48:06.740 Paul Wells also wrote about it on the subsec.
00:48:08.580 Eric Paul Wells sort of said that, well, it's up to them.
00:48:11.940 They don't have to do it if they don't want to.
00:48:13.460 They probably should, but they won't.
00:48:15.560 But lots and lots of reactions from the legacy media clutching the pearls and condemning the Conservatives for not allowing them to do this.
00:48:24.680 You know, I wouldn't be surprised, Jasmine, if the Liberals do the same thing.
00:48:27.380 If the Liberals just say, yeah, we're not going to allow it.
00:48:29.040 With Mark Carney?
00:48:29.980 Yeah, probably.
00:48:30.700 Given how bad he is at this and every time he talks to the press, he, you know, steps in it.
00:48:35.280 I think that maybe we'll have a campaign where the legacy media and the Ottawa Press Gallery is just completely blocked out from both sides, which I think would be kind of fitting and deserving and entertaining.
00:48:45.860 What do you think?
00:48:47.020 I do definitely agree with that.
00:48:48.820 I think it's weird just solely because it's such an almost tradition, I suppose.
00:48:53.220 I certainly understand the motive behind it.
00:48:56.040 And again, you know, it's not that he's running and hiding from anything.
00:48:59.920 It's that they're doing a big campaign tour.
00:49:03.200 And, you know, that's maybe I don't want to have CTV News misquoting me with everything that they hear me say behind the scenes.
00:49:10.720 And I think that that is definitely very fair.
00:49:13.200 I think if Mark Carney doesn't do that, it'll probably end very poorly for him.
00:49:17.840 So I almost kind of hope that he does allow the press on his.
00:49:21.180 But, you know, I think as a whole, one thing, if I could say anything at all to the Conservative Party of Canada, it would be, you know, if you're choosing to do this.
00:49:31.040 Great.
00:49:31.460 I understand it.
00:49:32.620 OK.
00:49:33.100 But also you should really, really be be speaking up more on on independent podcasts, independent sources, things like that.
00:49:42.120 It's so, so imperative, because if you aren't going to have the mainstream legacy media with you during those moments where perhaps they won't go to your events, maybe they won't know about them or they'll lie and say that they didn't know about them.
00:49:53.220 And then you won't get as much coverage as other candidates who do allow them to come by.
00:49:57.800 It's going to be more important than ever to get people to to get to know you.
00:50:01.420 You know, and I think, too, the Conservative Party has been smeared and lied about and there's been so much misguided, disingenuous publications about them and stories about them.
00:50:11.480 And I think it's about time that Canadians stop believing every single thing that a headline reads and that, you know, there's more of a more of a taking advantage, I suppose, of the amount of people like yourself, myself and so many others who would absolutely love to have a sit down conversation.
00:50:31.420 And I just think that that could be really beneficial, especially if they're choosing not to have media that will be reporting on them in a little bit more of a casual behind the scenes way.
00:50:42.680 Right. Like in a non adversarial way, like let's get to know the leader of the party better.
00:50:47.500 Let's get to know him in maybe different settings and environments other than just political interviews.
00:50:52.940 I think that's absolutely right. If anyone from Pierre Polyev's team is watching, we would love to have Pierre Polyev back on this show.
00:50:58.760 I know that Jasmine Lang would love to have him on her show. So definitely we'd like to see him go out there and do more interviews.
00:51:04.600 All right, Jasmine, thank you so much for joining the show. It's been great to have you.
00:51:07.220 That is Jasmine Lang. Go check out her YouTube page. It's really good, really entertaining.
00:51:11.420 And that's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news.
00:51:16.320 I'm Candice Malcolm. This is The Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.