Trump WALKS ALL OVER Carney in EXPLOSIVE Oval Office meeting
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Candace Malan talks about the embarrassing first bilateral meeting between Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney and President Donald Trump in the Oval Office, and why it was a disaster for both of them. She also explains why it's a good thing that Canada chose a new Prime Minister.
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Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
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All right, folks, we are doing a second episode today because something unbelievable just
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happened in Washington, D.C. Mark Carney and Donald Trump met in the Oval Office.
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Mark Carney, like, low level, just taking jabs and shots.
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And then the Q&A happened and everything unraveled and fell apart.
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And it was humiliating for Mark Carney and for Canada.
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But quickly, if I could just ask you to do me a quick favor, hit the like button.
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As I said, they did their first official bilateral meeting between the Canadian delegation and
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the Americans in the Oval Office with President Donald Trump.
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I think this was a bad idea in the first place.
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I think that after what happened with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, he was just absolutely
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lambasted in this Oval Office, in that exchange that happened where J.D.
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Vance and Donald Trump just absolutely destroyed him.
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And it was so devastating for Zelensky and his image and everything he was trying to do.
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I'm surprised that any world leader would go into this stage again, into the sort of lion's
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And yet here we have Mark Carney, just what, one week and a half after winning the Canadian
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election, shows up in Washington with his delegation.
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And let me just add that his delegation is entirely made up of former Trudeau liberal
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So from the Trump perspective, the same administration that he absolutely loathed, right?
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Justin Trudeau was out there undermining and trying to embarrass President Trump at every
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opportunity, always taking jabs at Trump, always sort of trying to pretend that Canadians were
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somehow better than Americans and taking shots at Trump.
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Same with Chrystia Freeland, his former deputy prime minister.
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You know, the whole idea, the whole reason why Carney was even able to get elected in the
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first place is in part because he represented change in the minds of some Canadians.
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When you show up with Dominic LeBlanc, Melanie Jolie, and I believe that's Bill Blair, the same
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people that were part of the Trudeau government.
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And I want to basically play it to you in its entirety, and I will jump in and make comments
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This is the first bilateral agreement, bilateral meeting between President Trump and Prime Minister
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It's a great honor to have Prime Minister Mark Carney with us.
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As you know, just a few days ago, he won a very big election in Canada.
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And I think I was probably the greatest thing that happened to him, but I can't take vote.
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His party was losing by a lot, and he ended up winning.
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It was probably one of the greatest comebacks in the history of politics, maybe even greater
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We were watching it with interest, and I think Canada chose a very talented person, a very
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good person, because we spoke before the election quite a few times.
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Okay, we could stop it there for a second, or you could just mute it, and we'll keep it
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So, folks, at home watching, Trump just spends a minute here just talking about the renovations
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But you could just see it from the beginning, like, Mark Carney has put in an awkward situation,
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He says that he himself, like, Trump was the greatest thing that's ever happened to Mark
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Carney, and Mark Carney just has to kind of make a face.
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And so he can't, like, talk over Trump and interrupt him.
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Yeah, you can see from the B-roll here that they're just still talking about the renovation
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Trump loves to sort of facilitate and be the host.
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But Carney's put in an awkward situation there.
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Trump takes credit, basically, for what happened to Carney.
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He says it was the greatest political comeback in history, even more of a political comeback
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So what he's really saying is that, like, the liberals were completely devastated and down
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And if it wasn't for him, Carney wouldn't be there, wouldn't be a prime minister, which is true.
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But the fact that he is at a official, bilateral, like, state-by-state meeting here, and Trump
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is saying this, it's just embarrassing for Carney.
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I'm going to skip ahead here because Trump goes down a tangent.
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You can see he's zooming in on Marco Rubio because he starts talking about the Houthis and
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You can see J.D. Vance there as well, the vice president.
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I'll just skip ahead here, and we can go back to Trump speaking about Canada.
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But thank you for your hospitality and, above all, for your leadership.
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You're a transformational president, a focus on the economy with a relentless focus on the
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American worker, securing your borders, ending the scourge of fentanyl and other opioids,
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And I've been elected with my colleagues here, with the help of my colleagues here, I'm going
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to spread the credit, to transform Canada with a similar focus on the economy, securing our
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borders, again, on fentanyl, much greater focus on defense and security, securing the
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And, you know, the history of Canada and the U.S. is we're stronger when we work together,
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and there's many opportunities to work together.
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And I look forward to, you know, addressing some of those issues that we have, but also
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finding those areas of mutual cooperation so we can work.
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So from, like, that in and of itself was actually pretty good, right?
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Like, I wouldn't say that Mark Carney necessarily, like, went in there and kissed the ring, but
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he was jovial, he was friendly, he was affable.
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You could tell that they have a better relationship and a better rapport than Trump did with Trudeau.
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But, you know, despite the quite positive, I would say, back and forth, it was quite short.
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Again, Trump spent, like, half of the time that he was talking, talking about the room
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he was in, and then a different war in a different part of the world, and not really
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much about Canada other than taking credit for our election.
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And then Mark Carney kind of said what he had to say.
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He was much more deferential to Trump than he ever would have been in Canada.
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Now, remember, here at Juno News, we actually reported this.
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We reported that the head of the Eurasia Group, who employs Mark Carney's wife and employs
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Mark Carney's advisor, Gerald Butts, this is Ian Bremner, he said that Canada would quietly
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fold after the election, that Mark Carney would quietly fold.
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We just saw him say to Trump, you're a transformational president, you've done so much for the worker,
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we really admire you, and we want to build up your relationship, and then hit all the
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points that Trump want, and fentanyl, the border, the Arctic, carrying our fair share
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So really different than the Mark Carney on the election campaign, really different than
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the Mark Carney that spoke to older liberal boomers and convinced basically all NDP voters
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If I were one of those liberals, one of those people who was an NDP voter that switched sides
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and put Mark Carney over the edge, I would look at that and feel a little bit betrayed,
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feel a little bit like Mark Carney put his elbows down.
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Then the Q&A happens, and then the media get their chance, and this is where things go really
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Again, I don't really know why he agreed to do this in the first place.
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If they had just done a quick meeting and, you know, say, here we are, we're doing our
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meeting, we're going to go negotiate behind closed doors, that would have been better.
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So journalists ask a question, and again, this is where it just gets really uncomfortable
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because President Trump resumes his rhetoric, right?
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Carney pretended that Trump respects Canadian sovereignty during the campaign, but that's
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President Trump, you can tell, he continues to think, he truly believes that it would
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be better if North America were just one giant country.
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And so he goes on his typical rant, basically, about how the border shouldn't exist, is artificial.
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And Mark Carney's just left sitting there, looking sheepish, kind of grinning.
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And President Trump is just walking all over him.
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Mr. President, you have said that Canada should become the first state.
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Well, I still believe that, but, you know, it takes two to tango, right?
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I mean, I believe it would be a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens.
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You get free military, you get tremendous medical cares and other things.
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There would be a lot of advantages, but it would be a massive tax cut.
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And it's also a beautiful, you know, as a real estate developer, you know, I'm a real
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When you get rid of that artificially drawn line, somebody drew that line many years ago
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with like a ruler, just a straight line right across the top of the country.
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When you look at that beautiful formation when it's together, I'm a very artistic person.
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But when I looked at that beauty, I said that's the way it was meant to be.
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But, you know, I guess I do feel it's much better for Canada.
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But we're not going to be discussing that unless somebody wants to discuss it.
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I think that there are tremendous benefits to the Canadian citizens, tremendously lower
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taxes, free military, which honestly, we give you essentially anyway, because we're protecting
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But I think, you know, it would really be a wonderful marriage because it's two places
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Well, if I may, as you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for
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We're sitting in one right now, you know, Buckingham Palace, and you visited as well.
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And having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign last several months,
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But the opportunity is in the partnership and what we can build together.
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And part of that, as the President just said, is with respect to our own security.
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And my government is committed for a step change in our investment in Canadian security
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And I'll say this as well, that the President has revitalized international security, revitalized
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I must say, Canada is stepping up the military participation because Mark knew, you know,
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And, you know, Mark Carney's lucky that the camera was zoomed in on Trump when he was
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talking about the 51st state and the artificial border, because I would have hated to see Mark
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I'm sure he was just smirking and grimacing like he was when they zoomed out and he was
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He could have jumped in and said, no, Mr. President, that's not going to happen.
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And Mark Carney, you could tell that he's trying to be a gentleman and that he's a polite person.
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You know, some properties are just not for sale.
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It was kind of a trap that the Canadians walked right into.
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OK, next, we have a clip of Donald Trump just basically calling out Chrystia Freeland,
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talking about Trudeau and how much he despised him, talking about Chrystia Freeland.
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Is the U.S. prepared to walk away from that pact?
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We have the USMCA is a good deal for everybody.
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I won't say this about Mark, but I didn't like his predecessor.
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And she really hurt that deal very badly because she tried to take advantage of the deal,
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But, so, you know, I had a, we had a bad, we had a bad relationship having to do with
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the fact that we disagreed with the way they viewed the deal, and we ended it.
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You know, we ended that, that relationship pretty much.
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Trudeau, when I spoke to him, I used to call him Governor Trudeau.
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I think that probably didn't help his election.
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But when I spoke to him, I said, so why are we, why are we taking your cars?
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Why are we taking your, we want to make them ourselves.
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I mean, I said, and if the price of your cars went up, or if we put a tariff,
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if we put a tariff on your cars of 25%, what would that mean to you?
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And I said, that's a strange answer, but I understand his answer.
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But, no, I mean, it's hard to justify subsidizing Canada to the tune of maybe $200 billion a year.
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We protect Canada militarily, and we always will.
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We're going to, you know, that's not a money thing.
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But why are we subsidizing Canada $200 billion a year, or whatever the number might be?
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And it's hard for the American taxpayer to say, gee whiz, we love doing that.
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So you could just see Mark Kearney so uncomfortable.
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You remember he was doing that during the debate as well.
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And how could you not be when President Trump is smashing and slamming your predecessor,
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naming names with Chrystia Freeland, basically, and just saying how terrible she was,
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and then pivoting on to the auto sector, which is so important to Canada, well, at least Ontario,
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and so much of what Mark Kearney has done has been to promote them.
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And then they just say, like, that's a wrap, cut it off, and time to go.
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Again, I don't know why Kearney would have fallen into this trap.
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You can tell that they're actually probably good friends behind the scenes.
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But I would describe that an entire scene as just like a train wreck, a car crash.
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Okay, so after that event ended, Mark Kearney left.
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And I just want to show the very first question that was asked to him was from a Canadian reporter from the Toronto Star, I believe.
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And she just says, look, your face during that meeting was a total tell.
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Tell us what was going through your mind when Donald Trump was talking, and what were you really thinking?
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Good afternoon, Prime Minister Tonda McCharles, Toronto Star.
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And I was watching your face through the meeting in the Oval Office.
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And I wondered what was going through your mind when the President talked about re-erasing the artificial border,
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and how he criticized your predecessor and Madam Freeland.
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Well, thank you for, I guess, for your question.
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I'm glad that you couldn't tell what was going through my mind as that was going through.
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Look, with respect to the first point, the President has made known his wish about that issue for some time.
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I've been careful always to distinguish between wish and reality.
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I was clear there in the Oval Office, as I've been clear throughout on behalf of Canadians,
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Some things, as I said in the room, some things are never for sale.
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And then with respect to the importance of re-establishing a constructive relationship for negotiations of a partnership,
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of an economic and security partnership, which is what we were here for,
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I look forward, not back, and I think we established a good basis today.
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Okay, so kind of amusing that Cardi said, well, you're asking that question, so that's good that you couldn't tell what was going through my head.
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We could all tell that you had made a very big mistake, a bad decision to go to that meeting in the first place,
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and that you couldn't contain your uncomfortableness and your awkwardness and basically the fact that President Trump was humiliating you by continuing with this rhetoric,
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showing that he doesn't respect you as much as you played that he did.
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I will give him some credit that, yes, the relationship does seem to be better than it was under Trudeau,
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in part because Donald Trump seems to take great joy and glee from the fact that Mark Carney had this huge political comeback because of Donald Trump.
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Like, Pierre Polly have basically lost because Donald Trump inserted himself into our election.
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I don't think that that's even a stretch to say that Trump is a major reason, if not the biggest reason, why Carney was elected.
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And therefore, Carney kind of owes Trump, right?
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Like, Trump believes that he kind of did Carney a favor by helping him stay in power,
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and therefore there's going to be some kind of a special relationship based on that,
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which is not good for Canada, not good for the future of our two countries and future trade relationships.
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All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today.
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Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news.
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I'm Candace Malcolm. This is the Candace Malcolm Show. Thank you and God bless.