The Candice Malcolm Show - What transing is actually all about

00:00:00.000 Nearly half of Canadians support banning sex change operations and life-altering hormone treatments like puberty blockers for children, this according to a recent poll, 45%.

00:00:11.320 To be honest, that number seems pretty low to me.

00:00:14.480 My guess is that far more Canadians will want to protect children from the horrors of these procedures.

00:00:21.760 After hearing more about what these radical procedures actually entail, today we're going to tell you about a Canadian surgeon who accidentally told us the horrific truth about these procedures.

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00:01:03.840 Alright folks, so on the weekend we had Conservative leader Pierre Polyev share the following post on X.

00:01:11.140 He tweeted on Saturday, he says,

00:01:12.880 And in that tweet, he shares a link to a National Post story telling us that nearly half of Canadians support banning surgery and hormones for trans kids according to an exclusive poll conducted by the National Post.

00:01:35.580 So this exclusive poll was done on behalf of the National Post.

00:01:40.740 It was carried out by Lege Poehler, which is one of the most sort of credible and authentic pollsters out there.

00:01:48.100 The survey asked 2,000 Canadians what they thought about these procedures.

00:01:53.660 So like I said, nearly half believe that gender reassignment surgery, which, let's just be honest, they call it gender reassignment surgery.

00:02:01.000 That is a euphemism.

00:02:02.440 What we're talking about is a sex change operation.

00:02:04.280 We're talking about removing the external genitalia for young men and women and trying to alternate it.

00:02:12.420 So when you hear things like gender reassignment surgery, it sort of sounds benign and vague.

00:02:17.380 We're going to talk about in this episode, we're talking about something pretty gruesome, pretty horrific when you learn the gory details.

00:02:25.600 But anyway, it says here, nearly half of Canadians believe gender reassignment surgeries, a.k.a. sex change operations for minors should be prohibited.

00:02:32.760 And they support bans on hormone prescriptions for children.

00:02:35.900 Roughly 5 in 10 of 45% support a blanket ban on these surgeries for minors.

00:02:41.520 So that would even include in cases where the parents want it, Canadians are saying 45% of Canadians are saying absolutely not under any circumstances, no way, no surgeries like this for children.

00:02:54.660 And that was the most popular response in the survey.

00:02:58.100 And on the flip side of that, only 11% said that they think that it should be permitted without parental consent, which is the far fringe position held by Canada's left, held by the Liberals, that basically kids should be able to do whatever they want and that their awful, backwards, bigoted parents shouldn't have a say, basically.

00:03:22.120 So that's the extreme side, only 11% on that side.

00:03:25.260 And so similar rates of opposition, 42% were registered for puberty blockers and hormone therapies for children age 15 and under.

00:03:33.560 Apart from those who had already begun the intervention, slightly over a quarter, 26% of Canadians felt that such medical interventions when paired with parental consent were appropriate.

00:03:43.300 So again, we've got 45% saying no way under any circumstances, 26% saying, okay, fine, they can do it, but only if their parents say they can.

00:03:52.540 And then 11% saying that kids can make these decisions without their parents.

00:03:57.760 So that's where we are.

00:03:58.600 I think, like I said, that those numbers are a little off.

00:04:02.480 I've seen other studies that show far more Canadians opposing these surgeries.

00:04:08.020 And I think that the more we learn about what these surgeries entail, the more likely you're going to be to oppose it.

00:04:14.040 One of the great things that Pierre Polyev did when he was interacting with the media on this topic two weeks ago, and Danielle Smith did this too, is that they make the journalists actually state the policy they're talking about.

00:04:25.140 So you hear left-wing journalists and people like Justin Ling who just talk about this, they frame it as access to health care.

00:04:31.600 Why are you opposed to access to health care for kids?

00:04:34.720 That makes it seem like, hey, you know, I don't want anyone to not have health care in Canada.

00:04:39.940 I think that we should do a much better job of letting people have health care.

00:04:43.540 And so the idea is that it's just about access to health care.

00:04:47.300 Pierre Polyev stopped Justin Ling in that interaction and said, well, what specifically are you talking about?

00:04:52.520 And what he's specifically talking about are these sex change operations.

00:04:56.780 And once Canadians get past the euphemism and learn what it is, I think they're much, much less likely to support these kinds of procedures.

00:05:05.320 So this is what we're talking about.

00:05:06.800 And let me just give you a little bit of a trigger warning that the content I'm going to be talking about is very graphic.

00:05:13.100 I'm going to tell you about what these sex change operations actually entail because there's a big story, big breaking news that came out of the United States about Canada.

00:05:22.360 It's interesting.

00:05:23.340 We were at this point in Canadian media where foreign countries, foreign press do a better job of doing journalism in our country than the Canadian media outlets because they're so agenda driven and they're so obsessed with their political affiliation to Justin Trudeau and just doing exactly what Justin Trudeau wants them to do.

00:05:40.820 They don't do real journalism.

00:05:42.420 And so when it comes to breaking stories like this, I mean, you have a couple of independent players like True North, but you're still seeing a lot of scoops coming from other countries.

00:05:52.140 So we had the Daily Caller, which is a U.S. news foundation, broke the scoop.

00:05:58.000 And this is a story that was picked up by the Daily Mail.

00:06:01.560 So here is a scoop over in the Daily Mail.

00:06:03.440 It says top Canadian surgeon reveals the truth about sex change ops.

00:06:07.800 Unearthed video lifts the lid on ill-trained doctors, dying appendages and dreaded complications.

00:06:14.080 So this came to us courtesy of the Daily Caller.

00:06:17.940 And it talks about this doctor in Montreal named Dr. Alex Langani.

00:06:22.640 He says the lucrative trans medical industry has grown too quickly.

00:06:26.340 Surgeons don't get enough training in rush to provide top and bottom ops. 0.94

00:06:31.080 Okay, so basically what happens is these doctors won't come to the media and tell the truth about what's going on.

00:06:38.720 They want to keep it a secret.

00:06:40.080 They don't want to ruin what is a very lucrative business and potential business model for them.

00:06:45.160 But when they're behind closed doors, when they're talking to each other in more of a clinical setting, they're much more likely to just sort of be open and honest about what is going on.

00:06:52.180 So that's what we have here.

00:06:53.480 The event is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.

00:06:58.320 And that event was recorded.

00:07:00.200 That footage was made public via records requests from the Daily Caller News Foundation.

00:07:04.780 And then this one particular doctor, Montreal doctor, Alex Langani, who is a clinician at Canada's Metropolitan Centre of Surgery, made these damaging revelations about the pretty bad, what he calls the bad effects of sex change operations while he was addressing colleagues.

00:07:20.540 So I'll play you a couple of clips.

00:07:22.800 And again, just to warn you, this is pretty graphic and pretty horrific what we're talking about.

00:07:26.240 But basically what Dr. Langani is saying is that there's a huge rise in interest in this.

00:07:32.160 Like all of a sudden, there's a huge rising number of trans patients who want these kind of surgeries.

00:07:37.460 The hospitals don't want to turn them away because it's a big potential money making part of their business.

00:07:43.560 But the problem is that there's a lack of training and they're not properly trained.

00:07:47.120 Because of that, there's just been absolutely horrific outcomes when it comes to these surgeries.

00:07:53.980 They're rushing to do the surgery, but they're not properly trained.

00:07:57.980 And because of that, many, many of these surgeries go wrong.

00:08:00.880 So here is a clip of Dr. Langani talking about the results of a male to female genitalia surgery and how basically the most dreaded complications that happen during this procedure.

00:08:15.980 Let's play that clip.

00:08:17.780 Complications can be pretty bad for vaginoplasty.

00:08:22.440 And the most dreaded complication is to perforate the rectum while you are dissecting the vaginal cavity.

00:08:29.680 You are essentially dissecting the cavity between the prostate and the rectum.

00:08:34.300 And there's literally no space there.

00:08:35.940 So you have to create a new plane in a spot that doesn't exist.

00:08:39.120 So you're very much close to the rectum. 0.65

00:08:42.540 And it's very hard. 0.53

00:08:43.500 It's very easy to get in there.

00:08:47.000 Pretty horrific stuff. 0.99

00:08:48.400 I've got a second clip for you here where he talks about one of the many, many issues that come from, again, creating an artificial vagina, essentially castrating a man, creating an artificial vagina. 0.62

00:09:01.600 And then the outcome of what that patient has to deal with in the future is to play that clip.

00:09:36.400 And a British news outlet to report on these, I assume, outside of True North, this story is not going to be covered by anybody else.

00:09:43.440 But, again, pretty graphic stuff, what we're talking about.

00:09:46.560 And I'm going to continue.

00:09:47.820 I want to talk to you a little bit about Jordan Peterson because he's picked up on this topic.

00:09:51.940 And I think he is saying the truth in a way that many, many others will not.

00:09:56.260 So Jordan Peterson shared Pierre Polyev's tweet that I shared at the beginning of the episode.

00:10:02.820 And then he was sort of replying to those who were sort of moralizing about how important it is for trans people to have these procedures.

00:10:11.040 So I'll show you one tweet.

00:10:12.400 And then I'll show you a second tweet that Peterson shared that has a very graphic image.

00:10:15.820 But the first one is Peterson saying this.

00:10:19.780 You are actively promoting the worst acts of medical butchery in the history of the West.

00:10:24.620 You think you are moral.

00:10:25.960 I think you're worse than the Auschwitz perpetrators. 0.91

00:10:28.500 They at least had the shame to hide their crimes.

00:10:31.460 You flaunt yours as virtues. 0.94

00:10:33.200 And you dare to threaten your enemies with the suicide of children. 0.52

00:10:36.260 That's a lie.

00:10:37.160 There isn't a shred of clinical evidence to support it.

00:10:39.780 In the meantime, you are actually promoting the mutilation and sterilization of children. 0.72

00:10:44.620 I think the worst of the prisoners in the prison you deserve to be in will be properly ashamed of associated with you.

00:10:50.540 Okay.

00:10:50.720 So he goes pretty far there.

00:10:52.640 And then just for good measure, he shares a picture, which I will share with you in a moment.

00:10:56.720 But let me just warn you in advance.

00:10:58.220 It is incredibly graphic to see what it is that we're talking about in graphic detail.

00:11:03.540 So I'll redo the tweet first.

00:11:04.480 I'll show you show the picture just very briefly.

00:11:07.360 Peterson writes this. 0.83

00:11:08.220 He says, or does this graphic display of what you so compassionately promote leave you properly silenced, forearms stripped to produce non-functional pseudo-genitalia by demented sadistic medical monsters for profit?

00:11:23.380 If you don't want to see it avert your eyes right now, I'm going to show it just for a few minutes.

00:11:26.080 But this is what we're talking about.

00:11:27.560 So let's share this picture. 0.97

00:11:29.520 You can see what these sort of fake genitalia look like. 1.00

00:11:34.200 It doesn't look anything realistic at all. 0.97

00:11:37.180 You can see how they strip skin from other parts of the body, strip away flesh to create this fake pseudo-penis, basically.

00:11:47.020 And this is what they're defending.

00:11:48.260 So when you hear left-wing politicians like Justin Trudeau and Rachel Notley and all these other far-left politicians, that is what they're defending. 0.93

00:11:55.700 It is disgusting and sad.

00:11:58.380 And I don't really understand how that can make anybody feel better about their gender dysphoria or about their gender confusion.

00:12:07.100 But I think it's important to show what we're talking about.

00:12:10.180 And that is what Jordan Peterson did.

00:12:14.680 Okay, let's go back to Pierre Polyev and that tweet because I think it shows something really remarkable that's happened in Canadian politics over just the past few weeks.

00:12:22.640 So we had Danielle Smith come out with this policy. 1.00

00:12:24.720 At the time, no one else was talking about this in Canadian politics.

00:12:29.280 And now here we have the leader of the opposition, presumably the next prime minister of Canada, doubling down on his protection of Premier Smith's common-sense protection of children and protecting kids.

00:12:43.540 So you can see Pierre Polyev's tweet right there went viral.

00:12:47.700 It's got over a million views as of today, Tuesday morning.

00:12:50.820 And this triggered the left.

00:12:53.280 This triggered them in a way that Pierre Polyev has just become so good at doing.

00:12:57.700 So here we have Rachel Gilmore, who's a former journalist for Global News.

00:13:02.160 And she responds to this saying, an online poll, which means no margin of error of 2,000 people, not even half support Smith's policy.

00:13:08.600 This before the average Canadian is fully informed about the impact these policies will have on youth suicide.

00:13:13.960 This is not the win it's being framed as.

00:13:15.960 I agree with her that the numbers are probably wrong because this is before Canadians are fully informed.

00:13:20.840 And I just think that when they're fully informed, they're going to go the opposite way than what Rachel Gilmore suspects they will.

00:13:26.980 Because I think this is one of those situations where the more you understand, the more you know about the policy, the more horrific it is, and the less likely you are to support it.

00:13:36.660 So we likewise have a tweet from Sherry Denova, who's a former Ontario NDP member of the provincial parliament.

00:13:43.480 And apparently she's currently a minister of the United Church of Canada.

00:13:47.300 Oh, goodness.

00:13:47.800 So she writes this, more than half of Canadians don't have a clue about what they're talking about when it comes to gender diverse children, and neither do you. 0.97

00:13:55.900 This is a crap poll, and this anti-science propaganda will result in the suicides of our most vulnerable children, who already have the highest suicide rate now, proud now. 0.97

00:14:06.120 And it was those tweets, this woman, Sherry Denova, that Jordan Peterson was replying to in that earlier thread where he called her a butcher. 0.99

00:14:14.480 So they basically have one point that they fall back on, which is kids have high suicide rates.

00:14:20.920 If you don't let them mutilate their bodies, they will kill themselves.

00:14:23.580 It's basically like a suicide threat that you have to do this. 0.99

00:14:26.440 If we don't do exactly what the left says, the kids will kill themselves, and that's the end of the conversation.

00:14:30.900 And it's, I mean, Peterson addressed it, and I think he is right, that the numbers don't even show that.

00:14:37.980 The statistics don't even show that there's not a shred of clinical evidence, as Jordan Peterson said.

00:14:42.180 I've seen studies that show the opposite, that the suicide attempt rate and suicide rate is actually higher among post-op people for obvious reasons,

00:14:53.260 which is that after you have that surgery and you realize that it didn't fix your problems, it doesn't make your feelings change.

00:14:59.100 It doesn't address the underlying issue.

00:15:02.060 And now you have a mutilated body, and the people who undergo these procedures report all kinds of issues when it comes to, like, discomfort and pain and chronic pain that comes from these surgeries,

00:15:13.680 as suggested by that surgeon who is talking about how the surgeons aren't properly trained in what they're doing,

00:15:18.900 they don't really have the best idea of what they're doing, and, you know, that actually leads to suicide on the other side.

00:15:25.340 So this threat that we always see that this will lead to kid suicide, it doesn't seem to be backed by science or evidence.

00:15:32.600 One final reaction to Pierre Polyev's tweet here is a woman named Kristen Raworth, who I believe is a conservative and I believe is a former journalist.

00:15:40.600 She wrote this, when gay marriage was legalized in Canada, it still wasn't supported by half the population.

00:15:46.200 We don't legislate on minority rights based on public opinion.

00:15:49.280 We do so based on what is moral and correct.

00:15:52.540 What is a moral and correct choice?

00:15:53.980 I agree.

00:15:54.780 I think that's right.

00:15:55.800 We don't legislate based on public opinion.

00:15:58.320 We legislate based on morality and what is correct.

00:16:01.560 And in this case, it is not moral and it is not correct to allow children to mutilate their bodies in this way.

00:16:07.480 And this whole industry, like Jordan Peterson notes, this for-profit industry that sucks children in and makes them believe that having these surgeries will somehow make their problems go away.

00:16:19.140 It's not correct.

00:16:20.100 It's not moral.

00:16:20.880 It's not good.

00:16:21.540 And that is why these surgeries ought to be banned.

00:16:24.240 But to go back to Pierre Polyev, I just want to note that this is a significant jump for the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:16:30.440 So basically, like I said, Danielle Smith came out with these policies and at first the Conservatives were told not to talk about it.

00:16:36.920 There was no word whether the Conservative Party of Canada was going to support it or oppose it.

00:16:41.460 It seemed like they were just going to kind of stay out of it.

00:16:43.580 And it wasn't until Pierre Polyev was really pushed by the media two weeks ago to take a stance.

00:16:48.300 And he finally did.

00:16:49.260 And he came to the correct choice.

00:16:50.740 And this tweet over the weekend is just really him doubling down on that.

00:16:54.340 And this is a significant jump for the Conservatives because prior to Pierre Polyev being leader of this party, the party was led by Aaron O'Toole.

00:17:02.880 And when Aaron O'Toole was in charge of the Conservative Party when he was leader, back in December of 2022, the House passed a bill banning conversion therapy.

00:17:12.680 And it was actually introduced by a Tory MP.

00:17:15.300 And so what does this have to do with conversion therapy?

00:17:18.700 Well, the name of the bill was sort of a cute trick to make you think of the sort of old school, I guess, Christian summer camps that kids used to have to go to where there'd be an element where they would, if someone was gay, they would try to convince them that they weren't gay or that there was some kind of a therapy that would force them to not be gay somehow.

00:17:38.020 And that's what many Canadians think of when they think of conversion therapy.

00:17:41.840 The problem with this specific bill, Bill C-6, that was originally introduced by the Liberals and then the Tories jumped onto it under Aaron O'Toole, was that it didn't do that.

00:17:52.540 It basically conflated the idea of conversion therapy for heterosexual attraction with trans sex change, basically.

00:18:06.620 So I'm going to read a little bit from Barbara Kay's article that she wrote, which was the case for getting rid of this conversion therapy bill.

00:18:15.540 The bill is deeply problematic, beginning with a preamble, which claims it is a myth that gender identity can or ought to be changed.

00:18:23.760 And then Barbara Kay writes, it is no myth that gender identity can change.

00:18:26.960 If one or two of Canada's top tier experts in gender dysphoria research have been consulted in the bill's creation, the working group would have learned that without invasive intervention, 80% or more of gender dysphoric children who identify as the opposite sex revert to comfort in their natal sex post puberty.

00:18:46.020 So if you understand that a significant number of these children emerge as gay or lesbian, these scientific experts were not consulted, not a good look for the framers.

00:18:55.620 So if you understand that correctly, 80% of children who suffer from gender dysphoria and may think that they're the opposite gender pre-puberty, 80% of them go back to their original sex, to believing they're part of their original sex after puberty.

00:19:10.620 Many of them emerge as gay or lesbian.

00:19:12.040 So we're talking about 80% of kids change your mind.

00:19:14.240 And here we have a bill that's saying that they cannot go to therapy, they can't speak to somebody, they can't try to have a conversation to understand what their feelings are actually about.

00:19:24.440 This bill silences them.

00:19:26.380 And Dr. Peterson spoke out about this bill at the time, about how it had a silencing effect on his profession, how it meant that psychologists couldn't talk to patients in this situation.

00:19:36.980 They were worried about losing their licenses.

00:19:38.380 And there's all kinds of repercussions, but it didn't matter, because back then the conservatives were much more interested in just virtue signaling, that they were sort of a new progressive party that was just like the liberals when it came to gay issues and social issues.

00:19:52.320 And so here I'll play this clip of the conservatives in the House of Commons, a conservative introducing this bill, and then you can see the unanimous consent that it received in the House of Commons.

00:20:02.440 Mr. Speaker, I'm asking for unanimous consent to adopt the following motion, that notwithstanding any standing order or usual practices of the House, Bill C-4, an act to amend the criminal code conversion therapy, be deemed to have been read a second time and referred to a committee of the whole, deemed considered in committee of the whole, deemed reported without amendment, deemed concurred in at the report stage, and deemed read a third time and passed.

00:20:32.440 Mr. Speaker, this being a hybrid sitting of the House for the sake of clarity, I will only ask those who are opposed to the request to express their disagreement.

00:20:51.000 Accordingly, all those opposed to the Honourable Member moving the motion will please say nay.

00:20:56.780 Agreed.

00:20:57.680 The House has heard the terms of the motion.

00:21:00.040 All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.

00:21:05.820 There being no dissenting voice, I declare the motion carried.

00:21:14.860 I should note that not all of the conservative members of Parliament were in the House that day.

00:21:20.420 Apparently they had sent a group over to Europe to go attend NATO meetings and to deal with something that was happening with the sort of Russia-Ukraine war at the time.

00:21:29.620 And so several key MPs were not there.

00:21:32.960 But you could see how Aaron O'Toole whipped the conservative caucus into everybody supporting transing of the kids, everybody supporting a law making it basically illegal for kids to go to therapy if they're dealing with gender dysphoria.

00:21:50.740 And I should note that I called it Bill C-6 and then there in the video it was Bill C-4.

00:21:55.900 So originally it was called Bill C-6 and there were some conservatives that opposed it and then they reintroduced it as Bill C-4 and that was when it got unanimous consent there.

00:22:05.700 So basically that's where the conservative party was prior to Pierre Polyev taking over.

00:22:11.620 I won't blame Polyev for the decisions of his party 15 months ago because he wasn't the leader at that time.

00:22:17.140 But it is just worth noting how things have changed.

00:22:20.360 So we have Billboard Chris who is a prominent anti-transing the kids activist.

00:22:26.520 And he congratulated Pierre Polyev for taking this stance.

00:22:30.380 He writes this on Twitter.

00:22:31.320 He said, conservative leader Pierre Polyev spoke out against puberty blockers for the first time last week.

00:22:35.900 Now he's doubling down.

00:22:36.940 Congratulations to all the Canadians who've been on the front lines raising awareness about this for years.

00:22:41.920 We will end child transition in Canada.

00:22:45.400 So definitely shows the work that these activists have had in raising this issue and showing us the true colors behind what is behind these surgeries.

00:22:56.400 People like Billboard Chris deserve a tremendous amount of, you know, our gratitude for raising this issue and bringing it into the public consciousness as it is.

00:23:06.640 You can tell that the country is now shifting and conservative ideas are becoming more popular.

00:23:11.580 You saw that many of the activists compare this to gay marriage and how originally people didn't agree with gay marriage.

00:23:19.380 And they think that this is just going to be like the next civil rights movement.

00:23:22.440 This is going to be the next issue that the left will win on.

00:23:25.900 And they can just point to conservatives and say, look at these bigots.

00:23:28.880 But that's not the case.

00:23:30.120 This is a totally different issue than the marriage issue.

00:23:33.000 And when you look at the facts, when you look at the gruesome details,

00:23:35.820 when you see surgeons like that surgeon in Montreal warning about how difficult these surgeries are,

00:23:41.260 how ill-prepared many surgeons are for doing the surgeries and all of the negative consequences of these surgeries,

00:23:48.080 you recognize that this isn't something that this isn't just the next civil rights trend.

00:23:53.000 This is something that's deeply, deeply wrong.

00:23:55.920 And I think more people will fall in line with what Jordan Peterson believes on this issue,

00:24:00.620 which is this is modern-day butchery.

00:24:03.100 And these are true crimes that are being perpetrated.

00:24:06.500 Another point that's interesting is that Danielle Smith has shown herself to be the leader of the conservative movement in Canada.

00:24:14.240 She was the one who was bold enough to take on this issue.

00:24:17.920 And, you know, it could have gone sideways.

00:24:20.000 It could have been a mistake.

00:24:20.720 The Conservative Party 15 months ago would have distanced themselves from her

00:24:23.680 and probably condemned her and said that she was wrong.

00:24:26.280 But now, just how much a country has changed in the last few years,

00:24:29.920 Danielle Smith comes up with this policy. 1.00

00:24:32.100 Most Canadians support her.

00:24:33.780 And now the leader of the opposition, Pierre Polyev, to his credit,

00:24:37.940 has been willing to take the same stand and is now doubling down and actually being a Conservative.

00:24:44.300 It's wonderful to see.

00:24:45.500 I don't think this is a winning issue for the left.

00:24:47.480 I think that many Canadians will see the truth about how horrific and how wrong

00:24:51.580 these sex change surgeries truly are.

00:24:54.680 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

The Candice Malcolm Show - February 20, 2024

What transing is actually all about

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