The Candice Malcolm Show - What’s next for the Conservatives？

00:00:00.000 The Freedom Rally scores another victory as the Conservative Party of Canada dumps their

00:00:04.940 Liberal Light Leader, Erin O'Toole.

00:00:06.980 What's next for the Conservative Party of Canada?

00:00:09.000 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

00:00:15.840 Hi everyone, thank you so much for tuning in.

00:00:18.260 So ever since the news broke that a freedom convoy was heading to Ottawa, to the Canadian

00:00:23.760 Parliament, to the capital of Canada, to protest against government overreach, to protest against

00:00:28.520 mandates specifically on truckers, but also just generally protests against government

00:00:33.240 overreach, the suspension of our charter over the past two years, that really has galvanized

00:00:38.140 the country in support of these truckers.

00:00:40.800 And let me just say, the truckers are winning.

00:00:43.140 I know that the media is working in overtime to try to smear them, to try to derail them,

00:00:47.900 to try to discredit them.

00:00:49.180 But I think more and more people are tuning out from that noise, and more and more people

00:00:53.100 are focusing on the task at hand, which is getting our country back, getting back on track with

00:00:58.180 freedom, and we are seeing little victories along the way.

00:01:01.100 And so I think that, you know, a couple of big victories that we saw, Quebec announced that it

00:01:05.000 was going to drop its absurd, ridiculous decision that it had announced earlier that it was going to

00:01:10.240 add an additional tax to unvaccinated people.

00:01:12.980 So the vax tax is gone.

00:01:14.880 That is a victory.

00:01:16.200 Saskatchewan came out and announced that they were lifting all of their restrictions.

00:01:19.720 Restrictions are gone.

00:01:20.840 They're now living with COVID.

00:01:22.360 It is an endemic.

00:01:23.080 It is not a pandemic.

00:01:24.240 Manitoba, likewise, announced that they are loosening their restrictions.

00:01:27.700 And Alberta announced that the restrictions in that province will soon be gone.

00:01:31.620 We are hearing more and more voices coming out opposing lockdowns, including Brampton

00:01:35.820 Mayor Patrick Brown, former leader of the PC party in Ontario, which is significant because

00:01:41.240 this guy used to run the party.

00:01:43.920 This guy used to run the party that Doug Ford now runs, and he's out there really vocally

00:01:48.180 saying, let's put an end to these lockdowns.

00:01:50.960 We've seen public opinion polling, so that report came out that 54% of Canadians agree

00:01:56.240 with the truckers.

00:01:57.120 They want all restrictions gone.

00:01:58.800 They want people who are sick to take responsibility for themselves, personal responsibility to isolate,

00:02:04.480 stay home, people who are vulnerable, personal responsibility, protect yourselves, no more

00:02:08.800 lockdowns.

00:02:09.420 And there was this really, really interesting study that came out from Johns Hopkins University.

00:02:13.760 We covered it over at TNC.news at True North.

00:02:17.080 And they basically said that lockdowns didn't work.

00:02:18.800 This is the most comprehensive study that we have seen to this point.

00:02:21.720 I'm just going to read a bit from it because it is really something.

00:02:24.100 It is really something.

00:02:24.920 So here is a headline over at TNC.

00:02:26.560 It says, lockdowns did not reduce COVID mortality rates, according to Johns Hopkins researchers.

00:02:31.100 Johns Hopkins is one of the best research universities in the world.

00:02:33.940 So a groundbreaking report from Johns Hopkins University researchers has concluded that lockdowns

00:02:39.000 did little to nothing when it came to reducing COVID-19 mortality rates and instead had devastating

00:02:44.120 effects on the social and economic fabric of our society.

00:02:46.980 The study titled A Literature Review of Meta-Analysis of the Effects of Lockdowns on COVID-19 Mortality

00:02:52.900 reviewed 18,590 research reports to arrive at its conclusion.

00:02:58.900 Like I said, I think this is the most comprehensive review that we have seen so far.

00:03:03.120 Lockdowns were defined as at least one compulsory non-pharmaceutical intervention, including limiting

00:03:08.380 internal movement, school and business closures, bans on international travel, and more.

00:03:12.540 Overall, we conclude that lockdowns are not an effective way of reducing mortality rates

00:03:16.480 during a pandemic, at least not during the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic, researchers

00:03:21.300 wrote.

00:03:22.220 In Edmonton, Canada, isolation and quarantine were instituted.

00:03:25.460 Public meetings were banned, schools, churches, colleges, theaters, and other public gatherings

00:03:29.480 were closed, and business hours were restricted without obvious impact on the epidemic.

00:03:35.620 So no, lockdowns do not work.

00:03:37.560 We're seeing more and more evidence that all of the things that the liberals said that were

00:03:42.660 science, that you had to follow the science, you had to listen to the science. 1.00

00:03:45.540 If you weren't, it was because you were wrong, because you were stupid, because you hated 1.00

00:03:49.200 liberalism and modernity. 1.00

00:03:51.520 All of those slurs are proving to be wrong.

00:03:54.260 At this point, it's so obvious.

00:03:55.940 We know that the vaccines don't stop the spread of COVID.

00:03:58.100 That is why all these people who are triple vaccinated, including our own Prime Minister Justin

00:04:02.000 Trudeau, have COVID.

00:04:03.740 So the whole justification for these lockdowns, and specifically the vaccine mandates, that

00:04:08.180 the idea that you can't go to restaurants or movie theaters, our own public, if you're

00:04:11.720 not vaccinated because you could spread COVID, that's just not true, because everyone can

00:04:16.020 spread COVID.

00:04:16.580 It doesn't matter if you're vaccinated or not.

00:04:18.680 And here we see that the big solution proposed by governments across Canada to a lockdown,

00:04:24.380 well, it didn't actually save lives.

00:04:25.760 So shame on everyone who are pushing these things.

00:04:28.620 It is time to end this thing.

00:04:29.900 It is time to do what the truckers want us to do and end the pandemic, go back to life

00:04:35.020 as normal, as they are doing in so many countries around the world, the UK, most of Scandinavia,

00:04:40.540 most US states now.

00:04:41.880 It's like Canada is the one holdout here, just gripping onto the power of forcing citizens

00:04:47.240 to comply and do things.

00:04:49.500 And Canadians are standing up, saying enough is enough.

00:04:52.640 Now, I want to cover this sort of big story of the day here.

00:04:55.740 The Conservatives have removed their leader, Aaron O'Toole.

00:04:58.900 So we covered this in depth here at True North.

00:05:00.760 I did my show on Tuesday, sort of leading up to it.

00:05:02.760 I talked to a bunch of MPs off the record to sort of get the feeling on the ground, get

00:05:07.340 the pulse of the party and what was going to happen.

00:05:08.820 It was pretty obvious to me after talking to those MPs and after putting that report

00:05:12.580 out that O'Toole was finished, that this was a foregone conclusion.

00:05:16.140 He was going to be removed.

00:05:18.060 And that is pretty much exactly how it played out.

00:05:19.900 My colleagues and I, myself, Andrew Lawton and Harley Sims, we jumped on a live yesterday.

00:05:25.140 And so you can go find that and see all of our reaction.

00:05:27.760 We recorded the show live at one o'clock, so like five minutes after we learned that

00:05:32.440 Aaron O'Toole was getting removed.

00:05:34.440 So you can see all of that analysis and reaction in that video there.

00:05:39.240 But I'll just kind of go through a little bit of what happened.

00:05:42.300 So there was that letter.

00:05:43.400 35 MPs initiated this saying, let's review this guy's leadership.

00:05:46.580 Let's get him out right now.

00:05:48.280 So in response, Aaron O'Toole put out a pretty firm letter saying, I'm not going anywhere.

00:05:52.300 I'm going to fight for my job.

00:05:53.300 And this is my party.

00:05:54.180 I want to continue to lead it.

00:05:55.900 Obviously, he hadn't really read and had a good understanding of where the MPs were at

00:06:00.280 that point, because I think that letter just turned more people against him.

00:06:03.380 It was it was pretty divisive.

00:06:04.920 And basically, he was calling the people in the party that were going against him angry

00:06:09.600 and divisive and extreme.

00:06:10.860 And then he was leaking stories to the CBC and the Toronto Star saying that the people

00:06:15.660 who wanted him gone were like this anti LGBT coalition within the party.

00:06:20.140 Well, that's pretty devastating to say about your own party on the way out.

00:06:23.680 He kind of had a change of tone, change of heart, because we had the story in the global

00:06:27.080 news saying that O'Toole tells his MPs he's open to changing policies if he survives the

00:06:32.540 caucus for evil, which had a lot of people chuckling.

00:06:35.200 It's a little bit ironic.

00:06:36.560 O'Toole was known as a conservative leader who didn't really stand for anything.

00:06:39.640 He flip flopped on almost every single issue he ever talked about.

00:06:43.240 He ran as being a true blue conservative in the leadership race.

00:06:46.360 And then he presented himself as a liberal during the election campaign and flip flopped

00:06:50.640 on like every major issue.

00:06:51.940 And I'm not even exaggerating, be it carbon tax, defunding the CBC, his position on firearms,

00:06:57.760 his position on mandates, his position on balancing the budget, like anything you can think of

00:07:02.200 policy wise, O'Toole has had both positions.

00:07:04.820 He's a flip flopper.

00:07:05.840 And so him coming out saying, hey, guys, I'm open to changing my policies if you let

00:07:11.200 me stay.

00:07:12.380 Just reemphasize all the reasons why so many people wanted him gone.

00:07:15.580 He couldn't make up his mind.

00:07:16.860 He couldn't he didn't stand for anything.

00:07:18.440 He couldn't articulate his his views.

00:07:20.560 He didn't have conviction.

00:07:21.860 He didn't really believe in anything.

00:07:23.200 And politicians who don't believe in anything are never going to stand up for what is right.

00:07:27.880 They they're always going to look to the polls to figure out what they should where they

00:07:31.560 should stand on position.

00:07:32.280 And then when you have something like the Freedom Convoy coming into town, representing

00:07:36.560 the working class and the people that the conservatives should be representing.

00:07:39.720 But then you have the fancy people in the media saying, no, no, no, these people are bad.

00:07:43.280 It emphasized, again, O'Toole's biggest flaws is that he couldn't make a decision.

00:07:47.040 He always had to look at the polls in order to guide him as to where to stand, where he

00:07:50.980 stood on an issue.

00:07:51.740 He didn't have time.

00:07:52.380 And so he waffled and flip flopped on the trucker issue.

00:07:54.740 And by that point, it was like, OK, this guy has to go.

00:07:56.980 He doesn't even know what he stands for.

00:07:58.820 So, again, a little bit a little bit sad that at the point where here we were on Tuesday

00:08:03.600 evening, it was pretty clear that O'Toole was going to get removed from office.

00:08:06.560 And he's basically begging and pleading for his job, saying anything, he'll do anything.

00:08:10.800 More stories along those lines saying Aaron O'Toole was calling MPs and leaving voicemails,

00:08:15.680 promising an earlier leadership than August 2023 if they vote to keep him on.

00:08:19.860 It's interesting because after the election in 2021, when O'Toole lost any and he lost ground

00:08:24.800 for the conservatives, like they lost they won the popular vote against Trudeau.

00:08:28.100 That's great.

00:08:28.820 But they lost their share of the popular vote.

00:08:30.940 They lost a bunch of seats, including in sort of target areas in around Toronto and Vancouver.

00:08:35.600 O'Toole's strategy was to run as a liberal in order to win over voters in big cities,

00:08:40.280 in urban areas like Toronto and Vancouver.

00:08:43.040 And yet he didn't gain any ground.

00:08:44.300 He didn't gain any ground in Quebec.

00:08:45.460 He lost seats.

00:08:46.260 So O'Toole lost the election.

00:08:48.260 But afterwards, he came out as if he had won.

00:08:50.500 He came across really arrogant, really sure of himself.

00:08:53.660 He was continuing to malign conservatives.

00:08:56.540 He had that line saying that conservatives have to have the courage to change.

00:09:00.200 And a lot of people took that to heart because I think it seemed like what he was saying was

00:09:04.580 that the courage to change to become more liberal, more progressive.

00:09:07.520 And they didn't want to hear that.

00:09:08.820 And we didn't really see a lot of reconciliation, a lot of humility from O'Toole at that point,

00:09:14.420 I'm talking about in September and October after the election.

00:09:16.880 And then all of a sudden, here he is at the 11th hour saying that he's open to changing,

00:09:21.360 saying that he'll have a leadership review earlier, making all the concessions that probably

00:09:25.360 if he had made right after the election, he would have continued to be leader.

00:09:29.100 However, at this point, it was just too little, too late.

00:09:31.000 So Wednesday morning, we have the vote to remove Aaron O'Toole.

00:09:34.440 It took a lot longer than people thought.

00:09:35.800 It's supposed to start at 9 o'clock and we were supposed to get the results by like 11.

00:09:40.200 Instead, it sort of turned into this long, drawn out affair.

00:09:42.640 Now, this was completely off the record.

00:09:44.160 It was a private meeting and it was done virtually.

00:09:46.660 So MPs were on their computers.

00:09:47.880 So we don't know exactly what happened in the room because it wasn't public.

00:09:50.320 But according to leaks that came out from MPs and journalists that were talking to people,

00:09:55.060 basically it got drawn out because MPs were making speeches for and against O'Toole.

00:09:59.560 O'Toole made a passionate plea, basically begging for his job and saying that he wanted to stay.

00:10:03.620 But again, too little, too late.

00:10:05.000 So finally, at around 12.45 in the afternoon on Thursday, members voted and we were told

00:10:10.380 that the final tally was 73 to 45.

00:10:14.840 So it wasn't even close.

00:10:16.100 Conservatives voted to remove Aaron O'Toole, fire him from his position.

00:10:19.380 And he is no longer the leader of the party.

00:10:22.200 Later in the day, it took all night, basically, but the Conservatives elected an interim leader

00:10:26.600 who is going to be Candace Bergen, the MP from Manitoba.

00:10:30.300 She's fantastic, by the way.

00:10:31.600 I sort of wish that she would run for leader of the party, but I think she'll make a great 0.70

00:10:35.780 interim leader in the meantime while they continue to search for a new leader.

00:10:41.160 So that's the big question on everyone's mind.

00:10:42.740 Who is going to replace Aaron O'Toole?

00:10:44.900 Well, we haven't really heard a lot yet, but there's lots of speculation.

00:10:49.380 I think the front runner, the first person on everyone's mind is Pierre Polyev.

00:10:53.260 Pierre Polyev is a fighter.

00:10:54.660 He has so many of the skills that Aaron O'Toole did not, right?

00:10:57.380 When I was talking about conviction and being sure of yourself, being confident, being able

00:11:01.540 to decide where you stand on an issue without reading the polls, without caring about what

00:11:05.920 the elites in the legacy media have to say.

00:11:08.780 Pierre is just that.

00:11:09.900 He is incredibly well-spoken.

00:11:11.120 He is fierce.

00:11:11.820 He believes in what he says.

00:11:13.120 He knows where he stands on issues.

00:11:15.040 And you can see him.

00:11:16.000 You saw him out at the Freedom Rally.

00:11:17.140 Here we have all these journalists and all these liberals and all these bureaucrats trying

00:11:20.820 to tell you that the Freedom Rally was made up of the far right and their extreme, and they

00:11:24.820 had these Confederate and Nazi flags everywhere.

00:11:27.380 Pierre wasn't buying any of that.

00:11:28.880 He was there.

00:11:29.540 He was supporting them.

00:11:30.460 He was cheering them on.

00:11:31.380 He was saying, this is what we need in this country.

00:11:33.940 And I think a lot of people were really impressed and proud that Pierre was so willing to get

00:11:38.260 out there in front of the issue when some other MPs, including the leader of the party

00:11:41.800 at the time, Erin O'Toole, was afraid to do that.

00:11:44.240 So I think he's definitely the front-runner.

00:11:46.440 Leslie Lewis is another name that's being thrown around.

00:11:49.000 She ran for leader last time around. 1.00

00:11:51.040 She was very unknown at the time.

00:11:52.420 People, you know, she was new to politics.

00:11:54.340 And she really got a lot of support.

00:11:56.320 She ended up winning the vote in the province of Saskatchewan and becoming an MP over in Halton

00:12:01.580 in Ontario.

00:12:02.480 And so she's another person to watch.

00:12:05.080 And then there's a bunch of people that everyone's kind of speculating upon.

00:12:08.300 This might be like a wish list, but people are saying maybe Brad Wall will jump in.

00:12:11.800 Michael Chong.

00:12:12.920 There's talk of Patrick Brown, who was the mayor of Brampton, jumping in.

00:12:17.520 So regardless of who puts their name forward as a potential leader of the party and who

00:12:21.380 wins, there are two things that the new leader must do that Erin O'Toole failed to do. 0.56

00:12:25.840 Number one, they must connect with the grassroots.

00:12:28.680 They need to get out there, talk to the supporters, talk to the base of the party to know what people

00:12:33.860 are concerned about.

00:12:34.740 What are their issues?

00:12:35.600 What are they worried about?

00:12:36.560 How can the conservative party represent them and speak to them and speak for them?

00:12:41.440 What can they do to connect those people?

00:12:43.660 It is just so incredibly important to connect with the grassroots.

00:12:46.980 And the second thing is that they need to be an authentic communicator who believes in

00:12:52.240 and can champion conservative values and conservative ideas.

00:12:56.240 That is something that Erin O'Toole was never able to do.

00:12:58.820 You must believe in what you say if you're going to leave this party.

00:13:01.540 I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show.

The Candice Malcolm Show - February 03, 2022

What’s next for the Conservatives？

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