The Candice Malcolm Show - April 02, 2025


Woke TikTok journalist gets FIRED from CTV


Episode Stats

Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

197.60713

Word Count

9,106

Sentence Count

557

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Mario Zalaya is a political commentator, entrepreneur, and TikTok founder. He's been around for a long time and has been a regular on TikTok and other social media platforms. In this episode, Mario talks about how he became a viral sensation in Canada, why he started TikTok, and why he decided to get into politics.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Mark Carney, Trudeau's money man, globalist, China's pal.
00:00:06.620 Weeks in, he jets to Beijing, scores a $250 million loan from their state bank.
00:00:15.480 11 MPs tied to Beijing.
00:00:19.060 Carney's crew says nothing, selling us out foreign cash.
00:00:25.060 Secret deals, Carney's Canada.
00:00:30.000 Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:00:36.240 We have a great show for you today, and you might notice I'm in a different studio than normal.
00:00:41.440 Well, my family and I recently purchased an acreage in rural Ontario, and we are here at the farm.
00:00:48.340 I'm so excited. I have my four kids out with us.
00:00:51.340 We're going to have such an adventure out here.
00:00:53.280 And originally, I was going to buy a new studio to match the studio that I have in my other house.
00:00:58.400 So I was going to buy the same bookcases and the same plants and the same backdrop.
00:01:03.260 But then the original farmhouse here has this beautiful wooden office.
00:01:07.720 I kind of feel like I'm at Tucker Carlson's studio, like in the woods in Maine.
00:01:12.460 And I just thought it was so beautiful.
00:01:13.860 So I decided to stick with it.
00:01:16.200 I know it's a little dark in here.
00:01:17.180 I'm going to be buying better lighting, and I'm going to improve the whole setup in here.
00:01:21.120 But I'm super excited, and I hope maybe I'll even start having people in studio and doing interviews in here because it's a really beautiful space.
00:01:28.280 I'm really excited for today's show.
00:01:30.300 I'm joined by a new guest that I've never had on the program before.
00:01:33.140 His name is Mario Zalaya.
00:01:35.400 He's a political commentator and a businessman.
00:01:37.620 And if you're anything like me, you see Mario's videos all over social media.
00:01:42.740 All of a sudden, I just started seeing them pop up on X all the time, going through the news stories, pointing out the facts, giving us a fact-based analysis.
00:01:50.280 I love it.
00:01:51.080 And so I wanted to have Mario to join us on the show today.
00:01:53.580 So, Mario, great to have you today.
00:01:55.760 Yeah, thanks very much for having me on, Candice.
00:01:57.860 So tell us about yourself, Mario.
00:01:59.440 Like, how did you become this sort of, like, viral political sensation in Canada?
00:02:03.860 I think you're on TikTok.
00:02:05.120 Is that right?
00:02:05.640 Yeah, so I started in TikTok about maybe two years ago.
00:02:10.620 And funny enough, originally it started in the way my account, my original account, and I'll explain in a second.
00:02:15.780 My original account blew up because I had a bad experience with an old Tesla Model S.
00:02:22.380 I had bought it in 2013, long story short.
00:02:25.300 The way it was designed, the AC condensate was leaking water on top of the battery.
00:02:31.260 Battery died.
00:02:32.080 There was literally, so basically water was leaking on top of the battery.
00:02:36.460 Battery died.
00:02:37.720 Tesla had a notification.
00:02:39.720 I only got a notification of high voltage.
00:02:41.960 That basically, that means it couldn't blow up.
00:02:44.100 I took it to them.
00:02:45.620 They wouldn't warranty it.
00:02:47.940 And it was a $29,000 bill.
00:02:49.980 So that went, like, mega viral, like 19 million views plus covered by almost every major news station, I think, in the world.
00:02:58.200 And it became a huge thing and my account really exploded.
00:03:02.320 And I honestly, I just started posting about business and stuff in general.
00:03:06.120 And I started seeing, I started realizing politics was affecting more of my life than I ever thought imaginable.
00:03:15.060 And I was never into politics at all.
00:03:17.340 I never followed it.
00:03:18.280 And it was literally about a year and a half ago that I really started commenting on it.
00:03:22.860 And people are like, you're uncovering a lot of stuff and you're giving us a different perspective.
00:03:27.140 And as time went on, you start kind of connecting the dots.
00:03:30.120 And that's all I really like to do is I like to really take up, look up news articles and connect a dot with something else that might have happened before, with something else that might have happened before, which something else that maybe wasn't covered.
00:03:44.100 And that's ultimately all I'm doing.
00:03:46.140 And I'm presenting it to people in a way where they can digest it.
00:03:49.040 And so, you know, the common feedback I've had from people is they really like that approach.
00:03:53.540 And people who don't even care about politics, they never cared about it before.
00:03:56.520 Or I've been to, you know, one of my kids plays basketball.
00:04:00.540 I've had kids that he plays against with asking me for pictures.
00:04:04.040 Like these are, you know, 11-year-old kids who recognize me, who want to take pictures, and they see my videos all the time on TikTok.
00:04:11.220 And just because I own a lot of businesses, I'm very busy, I don't really have time to do this.
00:04:17.140 Like I do this only when I have spare time.
00:04:19.160 Um, and I try doing it as, um, punctually as possible in a, sorry, in a succinct manner, uh, as much as possible.
00:04:29.240 And, uh, it was only really until, I think I've only been on X and Instagram for about four months and both accounts are going quite rapidly.
00:04:37.820 Um, and I'm, I'm just continuing what I'm doing and a lot of it, a lot of it has to do because my staff member is actually helping me post, um, videos that maybe I posted before that are still relevant today.
00:04:49.100 But it was really his idea to say, you know what, Mario, like, like, let me just repost this stuff for you because I told him I just don't have time.
00:04:55.820 And so now that I create a video, I have a good system of how to upload it and kind of grow these other accounts and get people more aware of what's happening in our country.
00:05:04.400 Well, I absolutely love your videos.
00:05:05.840 I think you're so good at getting to the bottom of things and pointing out what the key part of a story is that maybe the media is missing or the political class is missing.
00:05:14.520 And sometimes it takes an outsider's perspective.
00:05:16.740 Mario, if I could ask, what is it that got you into politics?
00:05:19.600 Like what happened a year and a half ago that sort of flipped the switch that made you start thinking about this stuff?
00:05:24.500 Some say the bubbles in an aero truffle piece can take 34 seconds to melt in your mouth.
00:05:29.800 Sometimes the very amount you're stuck at the same red light.
00:05:33.460 Rich, creamy, chocolatey aero truffle.
00:05:36.300 Feel the aero bubbles melt.
00:05:38.340 It's mind bubbling.
00:05:40.240 I mean, I don't know if there was anything.
00:05:42.860 Well, I would say that the major thing that really irritated me to no end, and I don't think I'll still forgive the government, was the vaccines.
00:05:53.440 Like, my wife and I were never going to get it.
00:05:55.760 Um, and it was this, uh, coercion that was done on people like myself, um, who didn't want it, but we couldn't travel anywhere.
00:06:05.040 We couldn't do anything and we're bottled up.
00:06:07.080 We can't go to transportation.
00:06:07.960 You couldn't go to a food court and sit down and eat your food with a special class of people.
00:06:12.340 So if you didn't have a vaccine and, you know, there wasn't really much to do, we couldn't leave the country.
00:06:17.300 We couldn't do much.
00:06:17.840 And, you know, we're, we're debating, you know, should we, should we not do it?
00:06:21.000 You know, the numbers look safe.
00:06:22.380 It looks okay to the state.
00:06:23.640 It's one of the biggest regrets we have.
00:06:25.000 That was one of the big steps.
00:06:26.340 And that obviously was more than a year and a half ago.
00:06:28.560 So, and, you know, during that time period, I mean, I had a extremely successful business.
00:06:33.460 Uh, it's called bad axe throwing.
00:06:34.980 Uh, I think a lot of people would recognize it.
00:06:36.600 Like if people know what axe throwing is modern day wise, you probably know because of me.
00:06:42.420 If you've ever seen it on TV, that's one of my other companies that I own, which is called the world axe throwing.
00:06:46.500 I had to deal with, uh, ESPN, uh, which then televised it on TSN.
00:06:50.480 So if you ever see any sort of axe throwing championship competitions, that's one of the other companies that I own.
00:06:54.740 Um, while that company, you know, uh, is still doing quite well and bad axe throwing is as well.
00:06:59.800 Um, you know, back then we were just crushing it.
00:07:02.300 Um, and you know, the, the big comparisons like from the U S to Canada was just completely night and day.
00:07:08.580 And it was purely political.
00:07:09.600 The U S was like, you know what?
00:07:11.080 We asked you to close down.
00:07:12.400 We're really going to support you.
00:07:14.160 Um, I got in the U S for, for my U S, uh, operations of the business.
00:07:18.500 And I've never said this publicly, but I got nearly a million dollars from the government as a grant.
00:07:23.620 Like the, the, the, the, this is, this is to maintain my operations, to keep people, uh, on payroll, to pay for my rent because they, uh, they forced me to shut down.
00:07:32.920 Canada gave us a $40,000 loan and my operations weren't that much different in Canada than they were in the U S except we were shut down for two to three times longer in Canada.
00:07:43.960 Uh, Ontario, most people don't realize.
00:07:46.700 And I know this because I was in the most scrutinized shutdown industry in the world.
00:07:53.600 I was an indoor recreation entertainment or, you know, don't go into those indoor places.
00:07:59.000 You know, you're, you're going to get COVID or what are the sanitation's limits on it?
00:08:02.760 Oh, you know, you can't do that.
00:08:03.940 You should only go out in groups with your own family members.
00:08:07.200 So we went from a business that you couldn't book with us unless you book like three, four weeks in advance with a minimum of 10 people.
00:08:14.880 Our model now is like, you can, you, we had to adjust it to book with as little as four.
00:08:20.300 And it just completely decimated the revenue numbers, the booking numbers.
00:08:24.620 It never went back to what it used to.
00:08:27.020 It never went back.
00:08:28.340 We got hit hard with inflation.
00:08:29.840 We were sorry.
00:08:30.540 We got hit hard with COVID.
00:08:31.600 We recovered.
00:08:32.680 Then we got hit hard, even harder with inflation and things just got progressively worse.
00:08:38.040 And I was like, man, we are just getting kicked in the teeth over and over again.
00:08:41.940 And I'm like, I'm not staying silent anymore.
00:08:44.380 And now that I have this audience, people need to know what the government is responsible for.
00:08:50.140 Uh, this, it just, what, what is happening makes absolutely no sense.
00:08:54.740 And that's when I started really just ramping things up.
00:08:57.760 And so the sentiment was always there.
00:09:01.280 The audience was not, I was never intending to be any sort of a social media, you know,
00:09:06.340 person at all, um, or a personality.
00:09:08.600 I have no interest in monetizing it.
00:09:10.980 It's not a thing that I ever aspire to.
00:09:13.360 I don't care about the fame.
00:09:14.260 I don't care about any of that stuff.
00:09:15.500 It was really just about to get the message out.
00:09:18.140 And what I was saying really resonated with a lot of people.
00:09:20.900 And so that, that, that's basically where I am today.
00:09:23.720 So at the, at the sort of depth of both COVID, the restrictions, I mean, it's, it's incredible.
00:09:30.100 The government forced you to shut down your business and yet, you know, all that they
00:09:34.040 were there to offer was a loan.
00:09:36.180 Um, like just curious, did you consider leaving the country?
00:09:39.980 And if, if, if you did, uh, why didn't you go?
00:09:43.500 Uh, and, and, and in all, and in all fairness and in full transparency, they gave me 20 grand
00:09:47.760 as a grant.
00:09:48.280 Um, uh, uh, and so I got a $60,000 loan, but if I paid it by this amount, they'd give
00:09:53.580 me 20 grand for free.
00:09:54.760 That did nothing that covered rent for maybe like a handful of locations, maybe.
00:10:00.280 And it was completely, um, immaterial and inconsequential to the total operations and
00:10:05.520 the amount of people that I actually employed, um, and the total overhead that I had.
00:10:09.940 And so it was a huge, uh, amount of government overreach and not enough, um, support, uh,
00:10:15.960 and not enough, uh, science-based, uh, data at that time, you know, um, we, we didn't
00:10:21.640 consider leaving, to be honest, it wasn't a thought that crossed my mind.
00:10:25.280 Um, and my wife and I had had that discussion a long time ago and our, our, you know, basically
00:10:30.940 where we ended up is our family's here, like we're happy here and we're gonna, we're
00:10:36.820 gonna make this thing work.
00:10:37.740 And so we, it was never really something that crossed my mind, to be honest.
00:10:42.940 Well, if you can survive as a small business owner under, uh, Justin Trudeau, I suppose
00:10:46.780 you could survive just about anything.
00:10:48.900 Uh, Maria, I want to talk about the news, uh, story of another, uh, TikTok influencer,
00:10:54.500 although I think that she probably has the exact opposite motives that you do.
00:10:57.620 I think all she wants is, um, fame and fortune talking about Rachel Gilmore.
00:11:01.800 And so we covered this on the show last week.
00:11:03.820 She got hired by CTV to do a fact second, uh, fact checking segment.
00:11:09.400 And I mean, to me, this is just the most farcical thing imaginable.
00:11:13.300 Like Rachel Gilmore is a meme of herself.
00:11:16.740 She is always pushing whatever the most extreme version of the narrative is.
00:11:22.000 She tries to fact check others while basically all she's doing is pushing her own far left
00:11:28.140 agenda.
00:11:28.960 And really like, no matter what issue it is, you can count on Rachel Gilmore to take the
00:11:34.720 most extreme far left view.
00:11:37.600 And so it was a little surprising for some of us to see that she'd been brought on by
00:11:42.060 CTV, which is, you know, as mainstream media as you can get, especially given that, you
00:11:47.720 know, maybe, maybe during election, you might want to have a bit of balance and not bring
00:11:52.060 on the most extreme left winger in journalism.
00:11:55.320 So it didn't really surprise me that she was, um, out of a job.
00:12:00.220 Uh, we learned this last night that Rachel Gilmore, her segment was canceled amid backlash.
00:12:05.500 She blamed the conservative party.
00:12:07.720 Um, here is a video that she uploaded, um, to Tik Tok yesterday, talking about how she
00:12:13.160 said that she was bullied out of a job by the far right.
00:12:16.560 Let's play that clip.
00:12:17.560 This is why I get harassed so badly because they know that it'll work.
00:12:22.820 If you see someone reporting on far right, on threats to democracy, on the rights of trans
00:12:27.740 people, and you bully everyone who gives them a career opportunity anytime they achieve
00:12:32.900 anything, and then those career opportunities get taken away, you're going to realize that
00:12:38.520 it works.
00:12:39.520 And now because CTV just caved to this pressure for no other reason than the backlash that
00:12:44.720 these guys intentionally inflicted on me, they're going to know that they can do it again.
00:12:50.080 This is a direct attack on journalism, on the freedom of the press.
00:12:54.800 And frankly, it really, really is crushing for me.
00:13:00.020 Gosh, you almost feel sorry for her if you forget all of the context about all of the
00:13:04.500 nasty things she said about unvaccinated people or people who don't want boys playing in girl
00:13:09.940 sports or, I mean, any number of issues.
00:13:11.740 But, uh, what do you, what do you make of this whole controversy, Mario?
00:13:15.180 Yeah, honestly, I, I had no idea who she was a couple of months ago, um, at all.
00:13:19.420 And, um, uh, I had been tagged in a video where someone was, and there's always going to be,
00:13:24.280 you know, similar, what I believe are far left extremists calling me out for disinformation,
00:13:29.340 but they never tell you what the disinformation is or what they'll do is they'll take a small
00:13:33.280 clipping of a larger context of what you're talking about.
00:13:36.000 And then this is how evil Mario is.
00:13:38.140 And this is the disinformation he's talking about.
00:13:40.220 But when it comes to having a direct debate, they could never hold up in having that.
00:13:44.480 And they would never actually engage in that kind of a conversation.
00:13:47.140 Now she was encouraging people to do that about me.
00:13:50.120 And that's the first time I'd ever heard her.
00:13:51.620 I was like, who the heck is this Rachel Gilmore girl?
00:13:53.460 When I opened up my ex account, um, I was like, man, a lot of people really don't like
00:13:59.580 her.
00:13:59.880 I'm like, I wonder what's up with this girl.
00:14:02.280 And, um, I saw something that she had posted.
00:14:04.860 I honestly can't remember what it was, but I fact checked her.
00:14:07.840 And, um, it, the, the, I guess there, you know, there's the whole ratioing, like when
00:14:12.620 people really like your comment more than the original post itself, it becomes very, uh, I would
00:14:18.920 say emotional for the person who actually posted it.
00:14:21.900 And I believe that's how my first engagement started with her.
00:14:25.420 And, um, she then decided to make a video, uh, about me and everyone knows anyone who ever
00:14:32.300 follows me knows that I was always, um, a Trump fan before the terrorists.
00:14:38.460 And that's important to mention because, you know, while I like a lot of his policies and
00:14:45.140 I like that he's putting America first, I don't like what he's doing to Canada whatsoever.
00:14:50.260 As soon as that happened, any, you know, sort of mentioned, cause I used to say, you know,
00:14:53.940 I'm the maple MAGA, this is the, and this was like a common theme that people said before
00:14:57.920 she weaponized that and did that post tariffs.
00:15:01.700 And that's a, that's a very important distinction to make because, you know, everyone's very
00:15:05.960 sensitive and rightfully so about, you know, being a 50 face free 54 stater and this guy's
00:15:10.340 a trader, this, that, and the other, but that wasn't the case at all.
00:15:13.040 And I've always said, I'm always Canada first.
00:15:15.040 She weaponized that asked her followers to basically, Hey guys, this is the business he
00:15:19.800 owns, but I got to tell you, you know, don't harass his employees and, you know, make sure
00:15:25.240 you don't, um, you know, uh, cause we're not that type of people.
00:15:29.100 Let's not do anything bad.
00:15:30.600 And it's kind of like, you know, she's basically doing enough to send a message to her followers.
00:15:36.440 And they did, they left dozens and dozens of negative reviews on bad acts throwing in
00:15:41.320 my Canadian locations.
00:15:42.960 One of those businesses, which is in Windsor isn't owned by me.
00:15:46.520 That is owned by a small business owner who French, who basically franchises or licenses
00:15:50.860 it from me.
00:15:51.660 And they're calling me in a panic email and me being like, Mario, what the heck is going
00:15:55.320 on?
00:15:55.620 What do we do with all these?
00:15:56.580 Anyways, long story short, all the negative reviews are gone, but someone like Rachel,
00:16:02.160 as you mentioned, I truly believe will always take the furthest left extreme of any position.
00:16:09.100 She, and I learned this word on an X where people describe her as a cry bully.
00:16:14.680 And the clip I believe is very representative of that where, oh, I'm a victim.
00:16:21.020 How dare they do this?
00:16:22.020 You know, people, you know, this is how you target, you know, this is unfair to women,
00:16:26.360 men, people of color, you know, this, that.
00:16:28.340 And it's like, don't give me that.
00:16:29.740 Like, do not give me any of that.
00:16:31.600 I have zero pity for you.
00:16:33.180 I now understand why there's such a great deal of people who dislike you to the point
00:16:38.120 that CTV felt the pressure.
00:16:40.160 This isn't a Pierre Polyev, um, attack.
00:16:42.700 This isn't something coming from Pierre being like, we need to get her off on TV.
00:16:46.460 That is the perfect example of who she is and what she represents when she twists the
00:16:53.260 narrative.
00:16:53.820 And I mean, I'm not going to disclose some of the other messages I've gotten from other
00:16:57.400 people that have accused her of much worse things, much, much worse things of people
00:17:01.820 who have lost their jobs.
00:17:02.920 And so, you know, I can't verify, I can't validate it.
00:17:05.920 I'm not going to get involved in it, but I mean, it's not very good.
00:17:09.940 Yeah.
00:17:10.340 I mean, my experiences with her are sort of similar.
00:17:12.780 I agree.
00:17:13.200 She's kind of a bully.
00:17:14.120 Like, it's funny that she wraps herself in a cloak of defending the marginalized and women
00:17:19.400 and things like that, because her favorite line of attack against me, Mario, has nothing
00:17:23.280 to do with me whatsoever.
00:17:24.800 She likes to go after my husband who has a successful career in tech.
00:17:28.720 And she's decided that him and his colleagues are like the Canadian version of Elon Musk.
00:17:32.720 And so when she's talking about me, she did like a 12-part TikTok series about me.
00:17:37.660 Wow.
00:17:38.280 And about him too.
00:17:39.080 And it's like, she doesn't even refer to me as me.
00:17:41.460 She just calls me my husband's wife, like so-and-so's wife, like treating me like I'm
00:17:45.300 just, you know, some bored housewife who's dirty on social media and that I don't really
00:17:50.740 have like a career unto myself or an identity unto myself, which I always found was a little
00:17:54.820 bit amusing.
00:17:55.660 But in her defense, I almost think that she's an example of somebody who just believes the
00:18:01.760 narrative on absolutely everything.
00:18:03.300 Like, when I hear Justin Trudeau speak, I think he is just so full of BS and so full
00:18:08.320 of nonsense and everything he says.
00:18:10.200 Like, he's a pathological liar.
00:18:11.780 And I think that probably most people watching the show right now have a similar view of Trudeau
00:18:17.960 and the liberals and everything they've been saying, even pre-COVID, but let's just start
00:18:22.240 during COVID, like the total nonsensical, like panic that they set that we were all going
00:18:28.880 to die and that if you left your home, you were going to kill grandma and all that kind
00:18:32.180 of stuff, right through to the COVID vaccine, right through to the trucker convoy.
00:18:36.360 Those people are Nazis and they're funded by Trump and they're funded by Russians.
00:18:39.300 Like, every nonsensical, insane story that Justin Trudeau would push, it's like Rachel
00:18:45.160 Gilmore falls for it, hook, line and sinker.
00:18:47.340 And then she becomes the enforcer and saying, anyone who disagrees with me, I'm going to go
00:18:52.180 after and I'm going to expose just how insane and radical they are.
00:18:56.420 And then she gets to sort of have this valor, like she's the good guy and she's on a crusade
00:19:00.940 against misinformation and disinformation, which is why it was just so interesting.
00:19:05.080 I think ironic that CTV hired her for this role because she's become so notorious and
00:19:09.360 like you said, so hated.
00:19:11.000 Anytime she's posting on social media, the comments are just absolutely pillying her and
00:19:15.820 it's embarrassing for her.
00:19:17.940 And so the fact that CTV brought her on, it just shows it total out of touch.
00:19:22.220 Like they actually think that she's good at what she does.
00:19:24.280 And it wasn't until they put her on this platform and got all the feedback.
00:19:27.260 And I don't think it was, I think you're right.
00:19:28.440 I don't think Pierre Polyev even knows who she is.
00:19:30.480 Like, I don't think it was, it was feedback from the top.
00:19:32.760 It was just the Canadian public are like, stop.
00:19:35.560 This person is not legitimate.
00:19:37.260 They're not, they don't have credibility.
00:19:38.620 They're totally non-serious person.
00:19:40.740 And then CTV realized like, oh, okay, maybe it's us that's out of touch.
00:19:44.160 Maybe we're the ones that are too extreme on the left and all these people that we like
00:19:47.860 to smear as being far right and radical.
00:19:50.360 Those are actually just normal everyday Canadians.
00:19:52.640 And it's our views, my views and your views, Mario.
00:19:55.180 Like we're just sort of like normal suburban parents trying to get by in Canada and they
00:20:00.540 paint us as if we're some kind of like a nefarious force.
00:20:03.360 What do you think?
00:20:04.960 Well, and sorry, I was just going to actually quickly add to your point.
00:20:07.940 Like my understanding, and again, I didn't know this until I joined X, but my understanding
00:20:12.880 is she got sued and so did CBC because I believe she mislabeled someone as a white supremacist.
00:20:20.220 I think his last name is something Abbott, who is, I think a protest or something, but apparently
00:20:26.840 they had to settle out of court.
00:20:28.340 And that's what my understanding is of it.
00:20:30.620 And so, you know, when, and when those facts are there and how can you have, you know,
00:20:38.060 and the question has to be, is how can you have someone like that as a fact checker,
00:20:41.460 um, who has basically, um, been in a position with a large broadcaster, uh, mainstream media
00:20:49.180 and absolutely mislabeled someone.
00:20:51.360 And so, you know, you have, you know, situations like this, that just kind of just, that doesn't
00:20:56.180 make much sense to me.
00:20:57.300 And so I, I really do believe that CTV, uh, listened to people.
00:21:02.020 And I think the approach that she took, she couldn't have gone about it in a much worse
00:21:07.040 way.
00:21:07.740 And, you know, for someone, I just want to jump in there.
00:21:10.780 Sorry to interrupt there, Mario, but she did share an audio recording.
00:21:14.400 So I guess she recorded the conversation where she got fired.
00:21:17.620 And of course, because everything she does, she does it for clicks.
00:21:20.520 So she uploaded this, uh, let's play this clip and hear what that sounded like.
00:21:24.240 But I have to say, I, I knew that, that you had that troll base and I knew that we would
00:21:30.300 get, you know, some sort of reaction, but I really did not realize the extent of the
00:21:36.180 volume of that pushback that we've had.
00:21:38.000 My goal as the EP for the show is I just want to do election coverage.
00:21:41.820 Yeah, a hundred percent.
00:21:42.640 Just, you know, it's a critical election for Canadians.
00:21:45.200 We've got Trump, we've got tariffs, we've got crazy amounts of information coming in and
00:21:48.680 we just want to be able to get back to people, but the, who we're talking to is kind of drowning
00:21:56.680 out the, what we're talking about right now.
00:21:59.800 Um, and I don't feel like we have the bandwidth to deal with it.
00:22:04.060 So, uh, I, I feel terrible about doing this, but I'm just gonna call down the segment that
00:22:10.200 we were planning to do with you.
00:22:11.440 Cause I just don't think we have the bandwidth to be able to keep the focus where we need
00:22:15.740 to.
00:22:17.480 I don't know about you, Mario.
00:22:18.720 I don't know if you've ever been fired from a job, but I don't understand the impulse to
00:22:22.900 record like probably a personally devastating conversation and then instantly put it out,
00:22:27.700 I guess, to get sympathy.
00:22:28.760 I don't quite understand why, maybe this is like a trend, uh, online that people like to
00:22:34.080 record themselves getting fired and then share it to get sympathy.
00:22:37.020 Um, what do you, what do you make of that?
00:22:39.240 Honestly, when you're trying to make your career as a social media person, you're trying
00:22:46.920 to be this credible person as a journalist, you, um, have been given this opportunity.
00:22:55.180 There's more elegant ways of parting ways.
00:22:58.740 And this, I believe is the absolute worst thing you could possibly do.
00:23:02.560 Like, I don't understand how it makes any sort of sense.
00:23:04.860 It's imagine, and it's no different than an NBA player.
00:23:07.720 If an NBA player says, you know, uh, F this team, F the coach, F these people, and you're
00:23:12.520 a problem, no one's going to want you.
00:23:14.620 It doesn't like your talent level is not going to matter.
00:23:17.140 And so imagine when that talent level just isn't even there.
00:23:20.800 Like, what do you think is then going to happen to you?
00:23:23.000 Like you think other NBA teams are going to come pick you up that this is no different.
00:23:26.420 Like this is the highest stage that you have.
00:23:29.300 You have CTV, you have CBC, you have a very few handful of media companies and you just
00:23:35.940 permanently burn that bridge.
00:23:37.580 Uh, I, I just, I really don't understand it.
00:23:40.160 And I, I truly believe it's exactly what you mentioned.
00:23:43.380 It is about the clicks.
00:23:44.940 It's about getting the pity.
00:23:46.480 It's about, and I don't know, I just, the views, I, I, I can't make any sense of it.
00:23:51.200 I would never in a million years do anything like this.
00:23:54.700 And to me, this just makes absolutely no sense.
00:23:56.960 And it was honestly, it was just for lack of a, I thought it was pathetic.
00:24:01.700 I couldn't agree more.
00:24:02.980 Okay.
00:24:03.100 Let's move on.
00:24:03.680 This is a show with a theme of the show here is people getting fired because, um, yesterday
00:24:09.540 we learned that Paul Cheung, the controversial liberal MP had decided to bow out of the race.
00:24:15.820 Now this was after Mark Carney originally said that he had accepted his apology and that we're
00:24:20.220 all just going to move on.
00:24:21.160 I think this was one of the biggest mistakes that Mark Carney has made so far because it
00:24:25.380 allowed this to be a story for an entire weekend.
00:24:29.340 Uh, you know, it's been five or six days now since news came out.
00:24:32.680 Well, you did some digging, Mario, and you shared the recently uncovered video of Paul
00:24:38.140 Cheung saying the thing that we knew that he says.
00:24:41.180 So here he is encouraging his supporters to find conservative candidate, Joe Tay, and turn
00:24:47.900 him over basically to the Chinese gulags, um, in order to receive a $1 million reward.
00:24:53.120 Let's play that clip.
00:24:53.780 Uh, most probably is, you know, the Chinese community knows Joe Tay.
00:24:58.000 Right now he's wanted by the Chinese government and there's a $1 million reward on his head.
00:25:04.080 So they want, if you guys want to, uh, pick him up and, and take him to the Chinese consulate,
00:25:09.720 you make him a $1 million.
00:25:12.000 I'm just joking.
00:25:12.920 But there is a arrest warrant out for him from the government of China and, and, uh, there
00:25:17.360 is a reward for him.
00:25:18.880 So I guess it's funny.
00:25:20.980 Uh, at least it was to the liberals in attendance there.
00:25:23.560 Mario, what do you, what do you make of this controversy?
00:25:26.380 Uh, I was shocked that it was on video.
00:25:28.520 I thought it was maybe a conversation that was had, he was being interviewed by some sort
00:25:32.620 of a magazine.
00:25:33.120 It was in an Asian print.
00:25:34.980 I totally misunderstood the whole thing until I saw that video.
00:25:38.480 At that point, you, you just have direct evidence that there is a criminal code, uh,
00:25:42.760 four, six, four, and I can't remember it verbatim, obviously, but it basically talks
00:25:48.080 about, um, you, um, counseling someone to commit an offense, even though they didn't
00:25:54.260 commit the offense, you could still be liable as though they committed it.
00:25:57.820 And so it's important for Canadians to understand that concept.
00:26:01.380 I cannot say, Hey guys, um, let's kidnap Candace.
00:26:06.420 Let's kidnap her.
00:26:08.020 And whether bounty or not me saying that and stating that it would violate section
00:26:13.820 four, six, four of the criminal code.
00:26:15.460 And I think that is just, just fundamentally at its base.
00:26:18.600 Let's just look at it at the most basic form you're breaking the law.
00:26:22.940 And, you know, I've had several, uh, former RCMP officers.
00:26:27.080 I've had several police officers comment on it.
00:26:29.840 And because people are saying, Oh no, you know, this is BS.
00:26:32.000 This is BS.
00:26:32.420 You don't know what you're talking about.
00:26:33.800 No, like this is it.
00:26:35.840 Like he is right.
00:26:37.100 Like it's literally right.
00:26:38.960 It's right there.
00:26:39.680 And, and, and it's, it's one of those things you just simply cannot argue.
00:26:43.180 Now, what blew my mind about the whole thing more than anything is the person he was talking
00:26:48.320 about, Joe Tay, he's wanted for criticizing the Hong Kong government in his YouTube channel
00:26:57.780 in Canada.
00:26:59.160 Right.
00:27:00.160 In Canada.
00:27:01.000 And so you have these two choices you can choose from as a liberal.
00:27:05.080 Do I speak out against this?
00:27:07.880 Do I use my diplomatic ties?
00:27:10.220 Do I speak to Hong Kong and say, Hey, are you guys able to reconsider this?
00:27:15.060 Can we make these charges go away?
00:27:16.880 Like we need to, we have diplomatic relationships with you guys.
00:27:19.720 We want to maintain them with, with you guys.
00:27:21.820 This is someone who's, you know, uh, not only like a radio host and in the media, but he's
00:27:26.260 also looking to be a political activist.
00:27:28.120 Can we have this conversation?
00:27:29.780 And instead he says, there's a bounty and go turn him in, kidnap him.
00:27:34.620 Like, how is that even?
00:27:36.160 And then Carney to make things worse says it was a mistake and he apologized for it.
00:27:42.800 He doubled down on this.
00:27:44.740 He doubled down on it.
00:27:46.200 And I think that was the most, I think probably one of the biggest mistakes he has done since
00:27:51.900 being named leader of the liberal party.
00:27:55.440 Well, it's interesting.
00:27:56.980 Sorry, go ahead.
00:27:58.220 No, I was just saying like to me that that's something that is unforgivable.
00:28:00.920 Like you're, you're supporting someone who, um, encouraged the crime and ultimately may
00:28:06.760 end up being a criminal as a result of it.
00:28:09.220 It is unbelievable.
00:28:10.280 I mean, like you said, this is, this is evidence, evidence of him breaking the law.
00:28:14.140 The fact that it even took three months for the media to find that clip.
00:28:17.840 Like, it's not like I, I agree.
00:28:19.660 I assumed that he was speaking in Cantonese and that the reason that took so long is because
00:28:23.500 these things circulate like in signal groups and, you know, in Chinese ethnic media.
00:28:28.460 But the fact that he said it in English that someone recorded, it's been floating around
00:28:31.860 online.
00:28:32.780 Really, really remarkable.
00:28:34.460 I did a radio interview the other day on iHeartRadio with Richard Surrett.
00:28:38.700 And he said, you know, what do you think that this points to about Mark Carney himself?
00:28:44.940 Like, there's a lot of speculation online.
00:28:47.140 I'll just leave it that speculation that maybe he himself has some untoward ties towards China.
00:28:53.440 Like, why wouldn't he just come out and say, this guy has to go?
00:28:56.040 He broke a law, it appears.
00:28:58.660 You know, we have free speech in Canada.
00:29:00.700 And when you leave a communist country and you come to Canada, you get all of the same
00:29:05.880 rights and protections of Canadians.
00:29:07.640 You have this adversarial regime in China saying that they can just put people on a wanted
00:29:12.920 list and collect a bounty and that you can send them to the consulate and the Chinese
00:29:17.060 will deal with them.
00:29:17.840 I mean, this is in light of four Canadians recently getting executed in China on trumped
00:29:22.380 up charges.
00:29:22.860 So, to me, you're absolutely right.
00:29:25.940 And then even just the arrogance of Mark Carney.
00:29:28.220 I'm going to play this clip.
00:29:29.580 Here he is in Winnipeg, basically just telling reporters that it's a teachable moment.
00:29:35.120 Remember, Justin Trudeau used to always say this.
00:29:36.580 Anytime he'd get busted with a scandal, he would turn it around back on Canadians.
00:29:40.360 Like, we didn't know that blackface was wrong.
00:29:42.720 This is a learnable, teachable moment for all of us, right?
00:29:45.140 Or like, yes, I groped that woman, but she experienced it differently.
00:29:49.540 And this is a learnable moment about consent that we're all learning together.
00:29:52.820 It's like, this doesn't fly, guys.
00:29:54.920 But anyway, here's Mark Carney telling the press to just move on.
00:29:59.060 It's over now.
00:29:59.900 And let's all learn from the moment.
00:30:01.040 It appears the involvement of the RCMP forced candidate Paul Chang to bow out of the race.
00:30:07.720 Meanwhile, the Conservatives just removed their problematic candidate in Windsor within an
00:30:12.220 hour of learning of issues of this individual.
00:30:15.260 Why didn't you do the same with Chang?
00:30:17.000 And was this a teachable moment for you?
00:30:18.900 Mr. Chang made his resignation, offered his resignation last night.
00:30:25.900 I accepted it.
00:30:27.860 As I said yesterday, his comments were deeply, deeply troubling and regrettable.
00:30:38.120 We will move on with looking for a new candidate for a markup.
00:30:44.820 And I'll leave it at that.
00:30:45.560 OK, just just to pick up on something she mentioned, she talked about how a conservative
00:30:49.800 candidate got ousted an hour after the scandal broke.
00:30:54.040 Interesting.
00:30:54.380 I want to show the CTV headline conservative candidate boosted booted after CTV news uncovered
00:30:59.740 audio of joke about Justin Trudeau and the death penalty.
00:31:02.800 So CTV is just kind of like openly going after conservative candidates.
00:31:07.180 And it's like, you know, they're boasting about it.
00:31:09.020 Like, look, we got this guy.
00:31:10.160 You know, the candidate himself, I think he was on a comedy podcast and he was joking
00:31:16.720 about, as you can see there, obviously totally unacceptable in political in the political
00:31:21.920 world and probably not suitable to be a candidate.
00:31:24.760 We're talking about Mark McKenzie, who was the conservative candidate for Windsor to come
00:31:28.380 say Lakeshore.
00:31:30.280 But the context is that it was a comedy show and he was making an untowards joke.
00:31:35.160 Compare that to the liberal MP who was actually telling people, I mean, maybe he was kind
00:31:40.780 of joking, but the topic itself is really serious because the Chinese government actually
00:31:45.300 does have a bounty on this conservative candidate's head.
00:31:49.000 And I wanted to mention another candidate.
00:31:51.140 This is some reporting from Juneau News, my colleague, Kian Bexty, Thomas Keeper, who was
00:31:56.620 the liberal candidate for Calgary Confederation.
00:31:59.060 He has also stepped down and is no longer running after an explosive Juneau News investigation
00:32:05.800 where Kian exposed all kinds of insane allegations, like just totally disturbing things about this
00:32:11.400 individual and his personal life.
00:32:13.520 Juneau News broke the news, exposed him.
00:32:17.780 And within about, I would say about 48 hours later, he was no longer the candidate.
00:32:22.980 So I think that's three candidates that have been removed.
00:32:26.020 But interestingly, for both the liberals, it took a couple of days for them to eventually
00:32:30.640 do the right thing, whereas the conservatives, to their credit, cut ties with this candidate
00:32:34.480 almost immediately.
00:32:36.240 What do you think?
00:32:36.960 I mean, to me, I thought that we had kind of moved away from cancel culture and that
00:32:40.220 it wasn't going to be the main story of this election.
00:32:42.820 And yet every single topic that we've discussed on the show so far today, Mario, has been
00:32:47.120 about cancel culture.
00:32:48.540 So do you think this is just sort of accountability in the modern age and we're never going to
00:32:52.380 get away from it?
00:32:53.040 Or is this sort of like an example of cancel culture run amok?
00:32:57.980 I think there is hypersensitivity in some regards and in others there aren't.
00:33:04.260 So, you know, if we look at Paul Chiang, he was doing, it looked to be some sort of oppressor.
00:33:10.100 It looked very official.
00:33:11.680 It doesn't look like he's on a comedy stage telling jokes to people.
00:33:15.820 His scenario is not a hypothetical.
00:33:18.340 It is real.
00:33:19.000 Like this bounty exists, you know, we're going to basically, you could turn this person
00:33:23.020 in, ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:33:25.220 But seriously, there's a reward for him.
00:33:27.120 You could turn them in.
00:33:28.100 And, and it's kind of like, wait a second.
00:33:30.580 That's not very funny.
00:33:31.920 Yet the conservatives, as you said, I didn't know he was on a comedy like podcast.
00:33:37.800 And he had made that joke as distasteful as it is, as I personally don't like it myself
00:33:43.120 within the hour.
00:33:43.980 And that to me just shows the differences in leadership.
00:33:46.980 And even just the way in that clip where he showed how Mark Carney answered the question
00:33:51.380 deflected.
00:33:52.740 He simply deflected.
00:33:54.180 And he's just telling you what he said.
00:33:56.800 He's not really answering or taking ownership at all.
00:33:59.820 He, and this is typical, this is media training.
00:34:03.240 And what I'll say is liberal training one-on-one.
00:34:06.440 Um, yes, as you recall yesterday, I said, those comments were deplorable and you know,
00:34:12.460 we're going to seek a new candidate.
00:34:15.320 Like, okay.
00:34:16.400 But like, we literally like, why didn't you let him go immediately?
00:34:19.860 Why did it take you so long?
00:34:20.920 Why did you back him?
00:34:22.240 Like he, he broke a crime.
00:34:24.060 Like, this is a serious issue.
00:34:25.520 He didn't answer any of that.
00:34:26.740 There's no apologies.
00:34:28.040 There's no, and this is exactly the difference in leadership where I think one is, and here,
00:34:34.580 here's, here's, I think the difference, I actually had this conversation with someone
00:34:37.400 this morning that with, uh, Justin Trudeau, he lies to you in such a nice, likable manner.
00:34:46.260 He will smile.
00:34:47.280 Hey guys, you know, he will put on this show as his drama teacher and he gets very animated
00:34:52.320 and he talks to you, but we know he's lying, but he's a likable liar.
00:34:56.400 Like he, he just comes across so friendly.
00:34:59.120 Pierre Polyev is a straight shooter.
00:35:03.520 And it's almost as though there's certain Canadians that would prefer to be lied to with
00:35:09.500 a smile.
00:35:10.400 And, you know, this is such a teachable moment and we're going to find someone where Pierre
00:35:15.180 Polyev will say, we let him go.
00:35:16.740 And it was despicable and it's disgraceful.
00:35:19.560 He's no longer with us.
00:35:20.840 And, you know, he probably would have been like, I made a mistake yesterday and you move
00:35:24.460 on.
00:35:25.020 That's a huge difference in leadership because I, I truly believe Canadians and myself,
00:35:31.540 I like what you see is what you get.
00:35:34.220 And I would prefer to have it given it to me straight without any sort of like, you know,
00:35:40.080 don't try to make it pretty.
00:35:41.420 Don't try to just tell it to me like a straight shooter.
00:35:43.600 And that's how I, I approach myself as well on social media.
00:35:48.280 How I talk to you is no different.
00:35:50.480 How I would talk to the King of England or how I would talk to anyone else in Canada.
00:35:55.560 Like no one gets any sort of special privileges.
00:35:57.420 And I think that is very important from a leader where I think with Mark Carney, can
00:36:02.900 you trust what he's telling you?
00:36:05.020 And to me, the answer that I keep going back to is no, because if you, in a perfect example,
00:36:09.660 and you brought up China and I want to go back to this real quickly.
00:36:12.220 If you look at his ex post account, do a search for China, not one tweet, not one word, not
00:36:19.440 one criticism, not nothing about the Canadians that were killed in China with their
00:36:27.340 death penalties, whatever the charges are, whatever they were, whatever they were, it
00:36:30.420 doesn't matter.
00:36:31.060 They were killed.
00:36:31.520 No comment.
00:36:32.420 The a hundred percent tariff comes in on canola oil.
00:36:34.860 No comment.
00:36:35.740 Like there's just no comment, no comment, no comment about anything related to China.
00:36:39.680 And you start looking in deeper and he's talking about, you know, in the past, he's
00:36:43.640 actually talked about, you know, moving away from the U S dollar and, you know, maybe having
00:36:48.060 some sort of a hybrid system where the Chinese, uh, you are, you are, you are, you are
00:36:52.200 is basically the main currency that we should probably be looking towards.
00:36:56.200 And so economically speaking, he is already looking at that and he wants to do as little
00:37:01.780 as possible to not sever those ties.
00:37:03.760 And he clearly wants to make a very, very close connection with China.
00:37:07.580 If he hasn't already, if you look at the Chinese election interference that has happened
00:37:11.640 and even the report, the, the, you know, the, the reports that came out, the majority of
00:37:17.200 the names in there, if not all are liberal people, and it's all coming from the same state.
00:37:21.180 Um, you look at the, the donations that Justin Trudeau, even when he won his riding in 2015,
00:37:26.600 I think it was people were bust into his riding.
00:37:29.320 There's all these max donations.
00:37:31.260 It's all Chinese, uh, descendants or Chinese, uh, um, uh, based, um, uh, or Chinese descendants
00:37:39.760 that are now living in Canada.
00:37:40.900 And so, but there's, there's just a lot of really unusual red flags there.
00:37:45.060 And so I really, I really, yeah, I I'm just, I'm really not a fan, uh, when I connect all
00:37:51.360 these little dots.
00:37:52.840 Well, it's so interesting because the main question of this election seems to be like,
00:37:56.220 who's going to stand up for Canada in the, the wake of Donald Trump, President Trump and
00:38:00.860 the threats.
00:38:01.300 And it's like, what about China?
00:38:03.180 Like, you know, in, in, in what world is our closest friend and ally, the country that
00:38:08.260 shares the most in terms of values out of any country in the world that we've had this
00:38:12.680 historic relationship with, in what world are they a bigger threat than the actual nefarious
00:38:18.140 aggressive regime that allegedly runs secret police stations in Canada?
00:38:24.580 I played that clip of you last week talking about how Mark Carney wants the yuan to be the
00:38:29.940 global reserve currency.
00:38:31.280 I mean, that's terrifying to me.
00:38:33.400 Um, there was footage that emerged of Mark Carney saying that, actually trying to sell
00:38:38.120 investors on China, saying that they have done an amazing job basically with their green
00:38:43.420 transition.
00:38:44.360 And, you know, Mark Carney really is a zealot.
00:38:47.300 He's an ideologue when it comes to net zero and the climate.
00:38:51.060 I mean, the big news story today is that they've gotten rid of the carbon tax, but they haven't
00:38:55.500 really.
00:38:56.240 And then, whoops, Mark Carney let it slip that he wouldn't overturn Bill C-69, the new pipelines
00:39:01.000 deal.
00:39:01.300 So, really, like, what's the difference between him and Trudeau?
00:39:04.940 Not much.
00:39:05.960 And I think that these ties and these connections to China are just so worrying and so concerning.
00:39:10.300 I worry that Canadians don't really understand the issue or don't really care.
00:39:13.980 Like, when it comes to anything with China, they just don't really engage and they don't
00:39:17.640 see it in the same way.
00:39:19.760 As you know, Donald Trump is like the perfect villain.
00:39:21.600 He's this animated character that the media has spent a decade demonizing.
00:39:26.860 And I think to so many Canadians, they just, he lives rent-free in their minds and they're
00:39:31.180 constantly worried that he's going to destroy our country.
00:39:33.700 And here, we actually have evidence of him saying these kinds of things and he wants Canada
00:39:37.760 to become the 51st state.
00:39:39.340 It was like the perfect storm.
00:39:40.960 And we've allowed it to overtake our election.
00:39:43.820 You know, you were talking about how Canadians would prefer to be lied to by someone with a
00:39:47.580 smile.
00:39:48.600 One of the things about Mark Carney is that he's almost like straight from central casting.
00:39:53.500 He looks like a prime minister.
00:39:54.800 He sounds like a prime minister.
00:39:56.580 Polls show that Canadians say he is their preferred prime minister.
00:39:59.460 And it's almost like he's a Manchurian candidate.
00:40:01.660 Like, where did he come from?
00:40:02.780 Who, you know, where is his money?
00:40:04.540 Where did he make his money?
00:40:05.780 Where are his investments?
00:40:06.700 He's not telling us anything.
00:40:08.180 He does have these weird ties to China.
00:40:09.580 The fact that he refused to fire this candidate shows that he has some kind of a commitment or loyalty
00:40:16.400 or something.
00:40:17.880 And, you know, maybe the media allows him to get away with it.
00:40:22.040 I'm glad that there's citizen reporters out there like you, Mario, that is really connecting
00:40:25.900 the dots out there, putting it all together.
00:40:29.020 I'll leave the last word to you.
00:40:31.580 Yeah, I mean, I completely agree.
00:40:33.620 And I think that there's definitely something else going on.
00:40:36.760 And I think Canadians really need to start asking themselves that question.
00:40:40.880 Like, what could it possibly be?
00:40:42.200 Um, I, I don't have all the answers, but I do know what I know.
00:40:48.120 And there are a lot of things that are very unusual, especially from a prime minister, especially
00:40:53.420 given the events that have happened.
00:40:54.840 And you, you can only come to some sort of a conclusion that there is some sort of a tie
00:40:59.980 that he is actually not disclosing.
00:41:02.160 And, and I think disclosure has always been a major problem with Mark Carney because people
00:41:07.440 have to keep in mind, he was never an elected official.
00:41:09.820 Like he is not, um, he doesn't, he's not a member of parliament.
00:41:13.580 And when you're not a member of parliament, you do not have the same disclosure requirements.
00:41:17.900 And that's why he was able to get away with some of the non-disclosures that he did not
00:41:23.400 do that Pierre Polyev wants to close that loop because it makes absolutely zero sense.
00:41:29.240 And I just actually, um, released a video this morning that talked about how, um, you know,
00:41:34.260 Mark Carney promised to build half a million homes a year and the government's getting in the
00:41:38.520 business of building homes, but, uh, I've never heard of a G7 country getting into that
00:41:43.560 business, uh, or a government.
00:41:45.300 It's communism.
00:41:45.800 I mean, it's, it's, it's flat up, like straight up, like in what world do we believe a bureaucracy
00:41:49.740 and government workers are going to be able to build homes in this country?
00:41:52.460 It's, it's so offensive.
00:41:53.600 The fact that Canadians might fall for it is outrageous.
00:41:56.500 Sorry to interrupt you.
00:41:57.580 No, no, no.
00:41:58.120 And you're absolutely right.
00:41:59.260 And the thing is, is like, and so I started thinking and I was like, how, like Canada can't
00:42:03.800 do this.
00:42:04.340 They just can't.
00:42:05.220 So how would it work?
00:42:06.600 And I started looking into it.
00:42:08.080 And it'd be Brookfield and Brookfield would make the most sense to do it because they
00:42:13.260 are actually in multi-unit res.
00:42:15.600 And if you dig in deeper, um, there are, you know, conflicts that exist.
00:42:20.460 And the fact that Mark Carney did not disclose exactly what went into the blind trust before
00:42:24.660 he put in the blind trust is the biggest red flag to me because he very well knows he
00:42:28.620 probably has $6 million plus in stock options alone in Brookfield.
00:42:32.500 Like, how do I know, uh, he didn't have stocks or stock in Telsat or Telesat before they got
00:42:39.080 the $2.4 billion from the liberal government.
00:42:41.280 The CEO of Telesat is one of his best friends.
00:42:43.880 It's one of his close friends.
00:42:44.840 His kids used to play soccer together.
00:42:46.840 They're pictured there together.
00:42:48.460 The week he gets announced as the, uh, lead economic advisor to baby, basically babysit
00:42:54.200 Chrystia Freeland, um, uh, and oversee the economic, they get the $2.4 billion and you
00:43:00.780 know, their stock, um, uh, at that point had been up almost a hundred, it went up almost
00:43:05.280 a hundred percent for, I think the year 2024, it doubled in price.
00:43:09.780 You're telling me that this guy that you're close friends with, that you definitely have
00:43:15.160 some sort of an inside knowledge because you're now the economic advisor of this task force
00:43:19.280 that you don't have oversight to the budget that is going to, or to the government, that's
00:43:24.300 basically going to give 2 point something billion dollars to your buddy.
00:43:27.640 Like it's, but it's, but here's the thing.
00:43:30.200 He's a private citizen.
00:43:32.240 So he doesn't have to disclose that conflicts of interest does not affect them.
00:43:36.400 So in his case, and he, he, he will make the case of I've done nothing wrong.
00:43:41.280 I don't have to disclose anything and he never did.
00:43:43.580 And so what he did now is he pro so he doesn't have to disclose his assets.
00:43:48.400 He preemptively put it into a blind trust that way.
00:43:52.100 He never has to tell you what he had in the first place.
00:43:55.520 So when he makes these decisions and truthfully, like, and I think people should understand,
00:44:00.380 like I have a very, very strong business background, like, uh, and I mean, international,
00:44:05.100 international management, corporate strategy, like you name it.
00:44:07.760 Like I know how to set up, you know, basically if I wanted to, I wouldn't touch it because
00:44:12.260 it's not worth it for me, but yet setting up a tax haven is not hard.
00:44:15.780 Setting up transfer pricing, the way Brookfield does it is not, I know how to do these things.
00:44:20.240 And, and, you know, when you understand international and corporate finance at the
00:44:24.080 level that I do, you know how he's going to do it and you know how he's able to get away
00:44:29.480 with it and you know how the tax evasion system can legally work, but when the average person
00:44:35.380 does it, you get the cuffs.
00:44:36.860 When a large corporation and someone like Mark Carney does it at best, you will get a slap
00:44:42.040 in the wrist, but on average, you just, you turn the other way.
00:44:45.940 And, and, and, and, and I think that that's probably the biggest, um, issue, um, that, that
00:44:51.020 I think also exists with him is the lack of transparency.
00:44:53.780 So I just really don't understand how he can get past, uh, uh, the point to get Canadians
00:44:59.880 trust when he's been so opaque about, um, his holdings, his dealings with China and, and
00:45:05.300 frankly, a lot of other things.
00:45:06.620 I think he's very, very conflicted.
00:45:09.080 Wow.
00:45:09.220 There's just so much there to unpack.
00:45:11.040 And it's so, it's so terrifying the fact that someone could be stepping in as prime
00:45:15.180 minister, totally unelected, selected by maybe a hundred thousand liberal insiders.
00:45:19.120 So, so we're told, and the entire ruse of being prime minister could just be like a
00:45:24.340 money-making opportunity for him personally.
00:45:26.340 Like, like all of the policies he's introducing for all we know could just be to line the coffers
00:45:31.960 of his, you know, the companies that he owns shares in that are in a blind trust that he
00:45:37.120 set up without our knowledge.
00:45:38.540 I don't think we've ever faced a situation like this and it really is terrifying.
00:45:43.380 Well, Mario, we got to leave it at that.
00:45:44.700 Um, thank you so much for joining us everyone.
00:45:46.020 I encourage you to head on over and follow Mario.
00:45:48.380 He's connecting the dots.
00:45:49.600 He's a really good account to follow.
00:45:51.060 Very knowledgeable as you could just tell from this interview.
00:45:53.660 So Mario, thanks so much for your time.
00:45:54.980 Appreciate you joining the show.
00:45:56.040 Thanks, Candice.
00:45:56.460 I appreciate it.
00:45:57.800 All right, folks.
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