The Candice Malcolm Show - April 10, 2025


Your taxes will go UP under Mark Carney (Ft. Franco Terrazzano)


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Length

21 minutes

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186.00867

Word Count

4,077

Sentence Count

257

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Francois Teresano joins Candice to talk about the key differences between the two major parties in the upcoming election, the Tories and the Liberals. He also talks about his new book, Axing the Tax: The Rise and Fall of Canada's Carbon Tax.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Mark Carney has three passports, Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, a globalist with options.
00:00:10.660 He hasn't seen Canada in a decade, calls himself a European, not a Canadian.
00:00:20.260 Told U.S. Congress last year, he's a Brit. He's back to Lord over you.
00:00:26.360 Over you. Canada's not his home. It's his throne.
00:00:35.800 I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show.
00:00:38.420 We have a great episode for you today, and I'm very pleased to be joined by one of my favourite guests from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:00:45.000 I'm talking about Franco Teresano, and he is here to help us make sense of the different political parties' platforms.
00:00:53.280 We talk a lot about politics on the show. We don't always talk about policy.
00:00:56.880 And so I'm hoping that Franco can help us shine light on what differentiates the two parties.
00:01:01.960 So, Franco, welcome to the show.
00:01:04.640 Hey, Candace. My pleasure. Thanks for having me on.
00:01:06.940 Yeah, and you are the author of a new book called Axing the Tax, The Rise and Fall of Canada's Carbon Tax.
00:01:11.880 I'm going to ask you about that book in a few minutes.
00:01:14.320 But first, I'm wondering if you could help us understand what are the key policy platforms introduced?
00:01:20.960 Let's start with the Conservatives. So, can you walk us through what you think are the most important policies that they've introduced so far?
00:01:29.240 Well, you know, let me just say, like, being with the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, I'm definitely happy to see all the tax cuts that are coming into play here during the election.
00:01:37.900 And, you know, Mr. Polyev and his Conservatives, he's offering some much-needed tax relief and I think some tax changes that could really supercharge Canada's economy.
00:01:48.060 But let's start with the income tax cuts, right?
00:01:50.220 So, Mr. Polyev is proposing to cut the lowest income tax rate by 15%, okay?
00:01:57.560 So, that would save your two-income family up to about $1,800 a year, right?
00:02:04.800 So, that's good news because here's the thing. Life is so unaffordable.
00:02:08.420 I know a lot of media talking heads want to talk about everything else.
00:02:11.880 But, look, the cost-of-living crisis is still here and keeping $1,800 in a family's budget every single year is big-time savings, right?
00:02:21.680 And, look, like, the best way the government can help Canadians deal with all aspects of life in terms of affordability, it just let us keep more of our own money, right?
00:02:30.600 And Polyev's income tax cut would do just that.
00:02:34.240 But, Candice, let's talk about actually growing our economy here for a second.
00:02:38.660 And this is a really interesting policy promise from Polyev.
00:02:42.080 He wants to defer capital gains taxes.
00:02:45.760 So, if you sell an asset and then you reinvest that money back into Canada, well, you're not going to be paying capital gains taxes on that when you make that reinvestment.
00:02:55.640 So, I think that is a huge policy announcement to actually grow our economy to encourage more reinvestment back here in Canada.
00:03:03.320 And, you know, Jack Mintz, a very reputable economist, he says that could, like, put $90 billion into Canada's economy over the medium term, lead to more than 200,000 new job opportunities for Canadians.
00:03:17.680 So, that's a huge move.
00:03:19.100 It is.
00:03:19.560 My husband and I were talking about this the other day.
00:03:21.440 And what a sort of exciting opportunity to reinvest in Canada and how much money that would encourage, you know, we're talking about, like, big companies wanting to reinvest in the country, big investors, rather than taking their money, investing into the United States, like we saw Mark Carney do at Brookfield, encouraging more people to do at home.
00:03:39.340 It's interesting, Franco, because over the last few years under the Liberals, they've sort of sold us on two major taxes, right?
00:03:46.720 First, the carbon tax, which they told us was going to help us lower emissions and lead the way into a greener future.
00:03:53.100 And then the second one, more recently, was the capital gains increase.
00:03:56.280 And we were told by Justin Trudeau and the Liberals that it was time that the wealthy paid their fair share and that it was only going to impact, what, like 2% of Canadians or something like that.
00:04:04.580 And interestingly, I don't think the Liberals are standing by either of those two taxes at this point.
00:04:09.020 So tell us what's happening over on the Liberals' side.
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00:04:41.140 Well, the capital gains tax is more clear, right?
00:04:45.180 So, like, after massive pushback from doctors, tech entrepreneurs, and, of course, your friends here at the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, the Liberal government backed down on their own capital gains tax.
00:04:55.140 And, Candace, remember what was actually happening here.
00:04:58.100 Because you'll remember back in, what, January, Trudeau prorogued the House, right?
00:05:02.300 Prorogued Parliament, shut Parliament down.
00:05:04.400 Well, at that point, they were still going ahead with this capital gains tax increase, even though the necessary legislation wasn't even brought into the House.
00:05:13.220 It wasn't debated. It wasn't passed into law. It wasn't proclaimed.
00:05:17.520 And yet, you still had these unelected bureaucrats at the CRA trying to take billions of dollars from Canadians through this undemocratic and illegal capital gains tax hike.
00:05:26.960 And that's why the Canadian Taxpayers Federation took the government to court.
00:05:30.360 A week after our court challenge, the government backed down.
00:05:34.420 And now, Mark Carney, the Liberal Party leader, he says he's not going to go forward with this capital gains tax increase.
00:05:39.800 So, you know, I guess that's some pretty good news. Canadians pushing the government back on their own tax increase.
00:05:46.160 Now, Candace, the carbon tax, though, is a little bit trickier. It's a little bit sneakier, right?
00:05:51.900 So, what Carney did, you all remember him signing that order in council in front of the media.
00:05:57.600 Well, all he did is he brought the consumer carbon tax rate down to zero.
00:06:02.920 But, Candace, there's two things to keep an eye on.
00:06:05.420 Number one, the carbon tax law is still on the books.
00:06:09.800 OK, so after the election, after those politicians are done singing for their supper,
00:06:14.160 they could come back into the House of Commons and crank that carbon tax back up.
00:06:19.200 The second thing, though, Candace, we can get into this in a little more details,
00:06:22.800 is that Carney isn't ending all carbon taxes.
00:06:25.580 He wants to change the carbon tax.
00:06:28.260 He wants to impose huge hidden carbon taxes on Canadian businesses.
00:06:32.760 And he hopes you won't notice when that makes your life more expensive.
00:06:35.900 Well, I mean, I guess on the one hand, it's good that the liberals are finally seeing the light,
00:06:40.560 that part of the reason that our economy is in such rough shape is because of the damaging policies they put in place.
00:06:46.300 And you mentioned that they sell it as, oh, we're just going to make the rich pay their fair share.
00:06:50.200 But when you tax capital gains, what you're really doing is punishing people who innovate,
00:06:55.540 people who take risks, create businesses, try to add value to something.
00:07:00.840 And by penalizing them, you're just telling people, you're telling young men across the country,
00:07:07.240 rather than starting a business, like, don't even bother because you're just going to be taxed to no end.
00:07:12.160 And so I think, you know, the fact that everyone stepped away from this is a really good sign.
00:07:16.540 And I applaud you and your organization for taking the government to court.
00:07:19.100 It's so unbelievable what they've tried to do.
00:07:21.340 And I am really excited about the conservatives' idea there to allow people to reinvest and defer capital gains tax.
00:07:28.620 I think you're right.
00:07:29.480 The carbon tax is a little bit more not – you don't really know what's happening, what you see is and what you get,
00:07:35.140 because Mark Carney believes in this stuff, right?
00:07:37.840 This is who he is.
00:07:39.160 Everything about him is based on his belief in net zero, in creating a green new economy,
00:07:45.560 in trying to promote the never-ending grift, which is green energy.
00:07:49.460 And it's just a matter of time before they introduce something else, right?
00:07:53.600 They believe so firmly in this idea that we're going to just magically create a new source of energy
00:07:59.160 and that all we need is just more government subsidies for it.
00:08:02.640 So I'm wondering, Marco, what else have we seen from the Liberals that are promoting this sort of idea of a new green economy or a green shift?
00:08:11.960 Well, you know, Carney's been pretty wobbly on that oil and gas cap, right?
00:08:17.340 Production cap, to say the least.
00:08:18.820 I mean, look, they've supported their own production cap on Canada's oil and gas sector.
00:08:24.340 I mean, they're the ones who brought it in.
00:08:25.660 They have supported it for quite some time now.
00:08:28.640 And look, so I think Canadians have every reason to have trust issues with the Liberal Party,
00:08:34.220 both on carbon taxes, but then all the other different energy regulations, right?
00:08:38.620 Like the No More Pipelines Law, Bill C-69.
00:08:41.460 They brought in the discriminatory tanker ban on the West Coast.
00:08:45.480 I remember, this was the government that rejected the Northern Gateway Pipeline,
00:08:49.720 that moved the regulatory goalposts on Energy East Pipeline, right?
00:08:54.360 So, like, Canadians, taxpayers have every reason to be extremely skeptical.
00:09:00.320 But, like, let's also not lose sight of the carbon tax issue.
00:09:04.260 It hasn't gone away.
00:09:05.480 Life is still unaffordable.
00:09:07.220 And again, like, here is a huge wedge.
00:09:09.720 Mr. Poliev and the Conservative Party is the only major federal party that has committed to ending all carbon taxes,
00:09:17.120 getting rid of the consumer carbon tax, ending that law, but also ending the hidden industrial carbon tax
00:09:24.320 that hits oil and gas companies, refineries, utilities, fertilizer plants.
00:09:29.200 And look, Carney is trying to sell people these magical beans, right?
00:09:33.360 Carney is essentially saying, don't worry, folks.
00:09:35.600 It's just going to be the businesses who pay for that.
00:09:37.680 But, like, come on.
00:09:39.300 Here's the thing.
00:09:40.780 When you carbon tax a refinery, that makes gas and lean and diesel more expensive, right?
00:09:46.580 When you carbon tax utilities, that makes home heating more expensive.
00:09:50.500 When you carbon tax fertilizer plants, well, that increases costs for Canadian farmers,
00:09:55.580 and it makes food more expensive.
00:09:57.340 And, Candace, just one thing.
00:09:59.020 Now, we're all talking about Trump and the U.S.
00:10:01.480 Well, guess what?
00:10:02.480 The United States does not have a national carbon tax.
00:10:06.240 So if Carney hammers businesses in Canada with this carbon tax, what's going to happen?
00:10:11.540 It's going to push Canadian businesses to cut production in Canada,
00:10:14.800 set up shops south of the border so it means higher prices for Canadians and fewer jobs for Canadians.
00:10:20.820 Well, not just that, but we've talked about this on the show before,
00:10:23.400 that the retaliatory tariffs that Mark Carney is imposing on the Americans is actually a tax paid by Canadians.
00:10:29.760 So when they say a 25% tax on American goods, that's American goods imported into Canada and purchased by Canadians.
00:10:37.400 It's a tax on us.
00:10:38.280 It's a 25% tax on us.
00:10:40.320 I wish that more Canadians would understand that and that the media would say it plainly.
00:10:44.520 A tariff is a tax, and the tax on American goods is a tax on Canadians.
00:10:48.920 Hey, couldn't have said it better myself.
00:10:50.700 Let me just add one more thing.
00:10:52.300 The government of Canada knows that simple reality because there's billboards from the government of Canada in the United States
00:10:59.180 saying that a tariff is a tax on Americans.
00:11:02.480 Okay, well, if a U.S. tariff is a tax on Americans, the converse is also true, right?
00:11:08.180 A Canadian tariff is a tax on Canadian businesses, which means higher prices for Canadians.
00:11:14.220 And look, if Washington, D.C. wants to hit Americans with new taxes,
00:11:18.640 it doesn't mean that Ottawa should hammer Canadians with new taxes.
00:11:22.660 In fact, we should be doing the exact opposite.
00:11:25.280 We've got to be cutting income taxes, cutting business taxes, cutting capital gains taxes,
00:11:29.780 and cutting the regulations that make it nearly impossible to invest and actually build stuff here in Canada.
00:11:36.220 Absolutely.
00:11:36.840 Well, maybe we should invest in some billboards in the GTA reminding swing voters in Ontario
00:11:41.300 that the tax introduced by Carney is a tax that they will pay.
00:11:45.280 Okay, I want to ask you because the polls have shown us that, I mean, not all seniors,
00:11:49.820 not all baby boomers are in the wrong, I know, like a significant portion of them support the Conservatives.
00:11:54.560 The ones watching this channel right now most likely are going to go out and vote for Pierre Polyev.
00:12:00.920 But what we have seen from polling is that older Canadians and baby boomers
00:12:04.300 are leaning more towards the Liberals, leaning more towards Mark Carney.
00:12:08.420 And that's why I was interested to see the Conservatives introduce a new tax cut for seniors.
00:12:13.380 So why don't you help us understand that?
00:12:15.560 Yeah, and look, I think this is a good move.
00:12:17.280 So essentially what Polyev is proposing is to expand the tax-free portion of a working senior's income
00:12:24.020 by another $10,000, right?
00:12:25.820 So like think about a working senior.
00:12:28.280 They're working because they're struggling to pay the bills, right?
00:12:31.220 They're working because they're struggling to actually enjoy their golden years.
00:12:35.040 So allowing a working Canadian senior to keep $10,000 more of their income tax-free,
00:12:41.220 like that's a good move.
00:12:42.220 Because we're talking about people, if you're working in your golden years,
00:12:46.040 one, you might just want to keep working, keep busy.
00:12:48.560 That's awesome.
00:12:49.480 But I think for a lot of the working seniors, they're doing so because they're just having
00:12:53.520 a tough time struggling to afford the necessities of life.
00:12:56.880 And that's why I think Polyev's move, which would expand the tax-free portion of working
00:13:01.440 seniors' income by $10,000, I think that's a pretty good move.
00:13:04.960 Hey, speaking of seniors voting in this election, let me bring up another thing here, okay?
00:13:10.160 So in Canada, we currently don't have home equity taxes, which are essentially just capital
00:13:16.420 gains on the sale of your primary residence.
00:13:19.640 We don't have that here in Canada yet.
00:13:22.500 And here's why I say yet, for two reasons.
00:13:25.080 In 2016, Trudeau brought in a reporting requirement with the CRA.
00:13:30.760 So when you sell your home because of Trudeau as of 2016, you got to tell the CRA how much
00:13:36.380 you made off the sale of that home.
00:13:37.720 Now, why is the reporting requirement in place?
00:13:41.500 Is the CRA just curious?
00:13:43.840 No, I don't think so.
00:13:45.280 That was the first step towards a home equity tax in Canada.
00:13:50.060 Not just that, Candace.
00:13:51.540 The Trudeau government spent hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars funding and promoting a
00:13:58.080 report pushing for new home taxes.
00:14:01.080 So in this election campaign, I hope the media, I hope journalists ask Mr. Kearney, do you
00:14:07.540 oppose home equity taxes?
00:14:09.620 Are you thinking about bringing in home equity taxes?
00:14:12.480 And if you actually oppose home equity taxes, are you going to prove it by removing Trudeau's
00:14:17.800 2016 reporting requirement?
00:14:19.860 Right.
00:14:20.480 Well, that's such a good point.
00:14:21.420 I remember hearing about that.
00:14:23.180 I'm glad you raised it.
00:14:24.260 Well, Marco, tell us a bit because both the major parties, Conservatives and Liberals, have
00:14:28.060 put out housing reports.
00:14:29.900 They both have identified a lack of housing as a major concern, especially in cities like
00:14:33.980 Toronto and Vancouver.
00:14:36.080 And, you know, to me, the policies look a little similar other than the fact that Mark
00:14:39.820 Kearney came out saying that he wanted to put government back in the business of building
00:14:43.420 homes.
00:14:43.640 I don't know who's out there asking for more government involved in housing.
00:14:46.920 Oh, my.
00:14:47.160 It's basically the exact opposite.
00:14:48.780 But when you look at the fine details, his plan is to build a rental home so that Canadians
00:14:53.440 can be more dependent on a landlord and rent.
00:14:56.520 And when you read between the lines, it seems like he wants to work with a big, big private
00:15:00.860 company in order to do this public-private partnership.
00:15:03.620 All signs are pointing towards Brookfield as potentially a partner that he might make a deal
00:15:09.020 with, which is really quite concerning.
00:15:10.740 But I want to ask you, what do you think about the two parties' housing platforms and how
00:15:15.660 can we really distinguish them?
00:15:17.540 Well, let me just talk about that proposal from Kearney that you mentioned there.
00:15:21.720 Like, first of all, folks, government is not the solution to homes, OK?
00:15:26.540 Government is the problem.
00:15:27.940 If more government meant more homes, everyone in Canada would have seven homes by now, right?
00:15:33.040 Because the size, cost and intervention of governments across Canada into the housing market
00:15:37.660 has gotten insane, OK?
00:15:39.720 So we don't need more government busybodies.
00:15:42.400 We need less.
00:15:44.080 Now, on the tax side, Candace, so you're right.
00:15:47.580 They're, you know, somewhat similar.
00:15:49.540 But I will say on the home tax cuts, edge to Mr. Polyev, right?
00:15:54.900 So what Kearney's proposing is he wants to eliminate the sales tax.
00:15:58.860 I believe the threshold is up to a million dollars, but it's for first-time homebuyers.
00:16:03.100 Now, for Mr. Polyev, he increases the threshold, so cut the sales tax off of homes up to about
00:16:09.580 $1.3 million, and that's for everyone, not just first-time homebuyers, right?
00:16:14.800 So look, edge to Mr. Polyev on that tax cut proposal.
00:16:20.240 Now, here's another thing I will say, because we talked about the home equity tax flirtations
00:16:24.380 from the Trudeau government.
00:16:26.200 Mr. Polyev, not during this campaign, but he's been on the record.
00:16:29.540 So on the Canadian Taxpayers podcast, I just asked Polyev point-blank, would you remove
00:16:35.520 that reporting requirement with the CRA?
00:16:37.600 And Mr. Polyev said he would.
00:16:39.340 So there you go, folks.
00:16:41.480 Wow, that's great.
00:16:42.260 Good job on that.
00:16:43.760 Okay, Marco.
00:16:44.720 Well, sorry, Franco.
00:16:45.700 I did want to ask you about the NDP, because they're also running in this election.
00:16:50.540 I know the polls show that they might be completely wiped out.
00:16:53.080 I asked you if you've been tracking what they've been saying, and you said not really, because
00:16:57.180 I don't know that they're really saying much or proposing much.
00:16:59.540 I mean, it could be a situation where they hold the balance of power once again, if it's
00:17:02.880 a liberal minority government.
00:17:04.480 So is there anything we should be looking out for from the NDP?
00:17:08.500 Yeah, I think the thing to watch out for is just their unrealistic spending plans.
00:17:15.260 Like, they want to spend more money on everything forever, right?
00:17:18.280 And like, look, the government is already more than a trillion dollars in debt.
00:17:21.600 You have a simple fact of life now that interest charges on the debt are blowing a $1 billion
00:17:27.820 hole in the budget every single week.
00:17:30.900 Candace, what's a billion dollars?
00:17:32.160 Well, a billion dollars, that's a new hospital.
00:17:35.000 Every week that is gone because of the interest charges on the debt.
00:17:38.860 And so watch out for the new Democrats just, like, announcing these crazy spending plans,
00:17:44.080 because you have to remember, folks, that we're not living in a vacuum.
00:17:47.420 We're living in a situation where you have the government's money printer running on overdrive
00:17:51.820 for how many years, which shot up the cost of living.
00:17:55.960 We're running, we're in a situation where the debt is already more than a trillion dollars.
00:18:00.080 Candace, here's a crazy stat.
00:18:01.720 Welcome to Canada, where every single dollar you pay in federal sales tax is going to pay
00:18:07.220 interest on the debt.
00:18:08.740 Okay, so, so folks, stay on guard for the new Democrats spending proposals.
00:18:13.680 And just remember, no, we are broke.
00:18:16.820 We can't be spending more money on everything forever.
00:18:19.360 We got to cut spending, we got to cut the bureaucracy so we can cut taxes to make life
00:18:23.800 in Canada more affordable and to allow our businesses to compete better, especially on
00:18:27.800 the international stage.
00:18:29.320 Well, I couldn't have said it better myself, Franco.
00:18:31.460 Okay, tell us about your new book, Axing the Tax, The Rise and Fall of Canada's Carbon
00:18:34.820 Tax, which is available now on Amazon.
00:18:37.380 Tell us about the book.
00:18:38.420 There you go.
00:18:39.140 Axing the Tax.
00:18:39.900 Look at that.
00:18:40.360 Look at that pretty front page cover, folks.
00:18:42.700 Axing the Tax.
00:18:44.020 Yeah, so I wrote the book for two reasons.
00:18:46.280 Number one is I just think ordinary Canadians deserve some credit here, right?
00:18:51.200 Because look, this was truly a David versus Goliath story where for years you had the
00:18:58.020 talking heads in the media, right?
00:19:00.140 All the big smart people around Ottawa, Toronto telling Canadians to sit down, be quiet and pay
00:19:06.400 your carbon tax bills.
00:19:07.940 Okay.
00:19:08.460 For years, these politicians, these bureaucrats, these big government activists have been pushing
00:19:13.900 carbon taxes on the people.
00:19:15.400 And like, look, it would have been easier for the people just to have given up, just to
00:19:19.320 say, okay, enough is enough, take my money.
00:19:21.920 But that's not what happened.
00:19:23.340 Ordinary Canadians worked their butts off, organized rallies, went to rallies, put up
00:19:27.660 bumper stickers, emailed their politicians, convinced people in their neighborhoods that
00:19:32.960 the carbon tax was a bad idea.
00:19:34.940 And that's one of the reasons why I wrote this book.
00:19:37.340 Just people need to know that they fought hard for a very long time and they deserve some
00:19:40.940 credit with the carbon tax on death's doorstep right now.
00:19:44.320 The second reason though, Candace, is like, look, you can already hear the carbon tax activists
00:19:50.720 trying to spin this.
00:19:52.680 They're going to try to say the carbon tax was a good idea.
00:19:56.260 Trudeau just bungled the policy or he didn't communicate it well enough.
00:20:00.240 And none of that could be further from the truth.
00:20:02.960 The carbon tax always was, always will be a bad deal for Canadians, a bad idea.
00:20:09.400 And this book shows you where the fight is heading next to end all of the carbon taxes
00:20:14.540 in Canada.
00:20:15.520 Well, I want to just highlight something you said that the media basically just told us
00:20:19.300 that we had to be good citizens, be good little Canadians, pat us on the head, pay the carbon
00:20:23.300 tax and basically just lie and cover for the Trudeau government for years upon years.
00:20:27.600 And then when Mark Carney greased to scrap it, just following what the Conservatives are
00:20:31.320 doing, basically trying to neutralize the issue, what did we see the media out there
00:20:34.900 celebrating Mark Carney, pointing out how the gas prices are down and doing a victory
00:20:39.920 lap on behalf of the Liberals?
00:20:42.320 It was so sickening.
00:20:43.220 Canadians, don't fall for it.
00:20:44.660 OK, there was the same media that was shaming you and telling you to be obedient and pay the
00:20:49.100 tax.
00:20:49.400 So congratulations, Franco, on a great book and everyone go out and buy a copy, support
00:20:56.940 Franco and the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:20:59.640 Any last word, Franco?
00:21:01.660 Yeah, look, you can get Axie and the Tax.
00:21:03.700 I think you're going to like it.
00:21:04.580 It's a big history.
00:21:05.780 There's a lot of political spice in there that hasn't been released to the public.
00:21:09.600 So if you like politics, you like history, I think you're going to like this book, Axie
00:21:12.840 and the Tax.
00:21:13.340 You can get it on Amazon.
00:21:14.320 But look, folks, you deserve so much credit fighting back against really the elites around
00:21:20.240 government against their carbon taxes.
00:21:22.380 But like I'm just going to say right now, the fight against carbon taxes is not over.
00:21:27.300 The law is still on the books.
00:21:28.900 Got to watch out for that.
00:21:30.220 And not to mention, Carney still wants to impose a hidden carbon tax on Canadian businesses,
00:21:35.660 which will mean higher prices for you and fewer jobs for Canadians.
00:21:39.760 Well, everyone go out and buy that book and support the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, Franco
00:21:45.300 Teresano.
00:21:45.960 Thank you so much for joining the show.
00:21:47.700 All right, folks, all the time we have for today.
00:21:49.520 Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:21:50.520 We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news.
00:21:52.060 I'm Candice Malcolm.
00:21:52.940 This is the Candice Malcolm Show.
00:21:53.960 Thank you and God bless.