The Charlie Kirk Show - 14 Years of TPUSA + Graham Platner Exposed (Again) + AMA 269

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

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00:00:39.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life.

00:00:43.000 And I encourage you to do the same.

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00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

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00:01:17.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:19.000 This is Blake.

00:01:20.000 I am flying solo today.

00:01:22.000 Andrew is off in San Antonio for the Women's Leadership Summit, along with a lot of our team, along with Erica, of course.

00:01:29.000 We have thousands of young women going there to hear from Allie Beth Stuckey, Riley Gaines, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Kaylee McEnany.

00:01:37.000 Many others.

00:01:38.000 It's going to be an incredible show and an incredible demonstration of all the ways that the work of Turning Point is continuing forward because today is a very important day.

00:01:50.000 Today is the 14th anniversary of Turning Point USA.

00:01:55.000 14 years ago, on this day, one day before the D Day anniversary, I'll note, Charlie started Turning Point.

00:02:03.000 He ran it out of a garage in Chicago.

00:02:07.000 But, of course, today is a very different anniversary.

00:02:11.000 This is the first anniversary of Turning Point without Charlie, without Charlie with us.

00:02:19.000 Charlie built Turning Point up from nothing into one of the most important organizations in America.

00:02:25.000 He would say the most important organization, and you know what?

00:02:27.000 He was right.

00:02:28.000 The most important organization in America, a force known all around the world, a force others wanted to learn from, a force that changed the culture of America.

00:02:39.000 In the way, certainly in my lifetime, nothing else on the right was able to.

00:02:45.000 And on this 14th anniversary, our first one without Charlie, I want to remind you of what Charlie was able to accomplish with his organization in his life, which was far too short.

00:02:59.000 When Charlie started Turning Point USA, I remember it.

00:03:02.000 I was in college myself when he started it instead of going to college, which he thought was a scam.

00:03:09.000 Incurably left wing.

00:03:11.000 They voted for Barack Obama in absolutely overwhelming numbers.

00:03:15.000 Every cohort of college students was getting more left wing by the year.

00:03:20.000 And there was this huge sense of defeatism about it on the right.

00:03:23.000 Oh, young people are left wing.

00:03:25.000 What are you going to do?

00:03:26.000 It always involved this implicit concession that the left had better arguments than the right.

00:03:32.000 They were just better at winning over young people.

00:03:34.000 If they had any hope at all, it was always in this cope that would be oh, well, young people will leave college.

00:03:40.000 They'll have to pay taxes.

00:03:42.000 They'll have to get a job.

00:03:44.000 Then they'll definitely become more right wing.

00:03:46.000 And that was all they had was cope.

00:03:48.000 There was never this belief that we could go and confront the left in its own territory, argue with them, and win because our arguments were better.

00:03:57.000 And that happened on economics.

00:03:59.000 It happened on foreign policy, but it also happened on faith.

00:04:03.000 Young people were getting less religious every single year.

00:04:06.000 The decline was absolutely precipitous.

00:04:09.000 And it was routine to just hear Christians talk about, well, in the future, we'll be this tiny minority.

00:04:15.000 We'll have to go through this dark age, perhaps of persecution.

00:04:19.000 And there's no way to just win these young people back.

00:04:21.000 And Charlie rejected that.

00:04:23.000 That's why he called it Turning Point USA.

00:04:25.000 He believed that there could be a turning point for this country and it could come.

00:04:30.000 Through young people, and it would come through confronting the problems with America at their source.

00:04:35.000 He thought we can go on campus, we can go on social media, and we can win the argument.

00:04:41.000 We can outperform the left.

00:04:44.000 And the results have spoken for themselves.

00:04:47.000 In the 2024 election, which Charlie was one of the chief players in, young people moved to the right in an election for one of the first times in ages.

00:04:57.000 And on top of that, we can see in polls that the decline in faith, the decline in religious belief among young people.

00:05:03.000 For the first time in memory, it stopped going down.

00:05:05.000 Some polls show that it's going the other direction.

00:05:09.000 And I strongly believe that it was Charlie's doing.

00:05:12.000 Charlie, as a major force in history, played a central role in all of that happening.

00:05:18.000 I wouldn't say it would be going too far to say that Charlie won the battle.

00:05:21.000 We know that's not true.

00:05:23.000 But Charlie showed that the battle could be won.

00:05:26.000 And that's of central importance.

00:05:30.000 But last year, God called Charlie home.

00:05:34.000 To heaven as a martyr.

00:05:35.000 Now it's the obligation of all of us who knew Charlie, who Charlie chose to work with him.

00:05:41.000 It's our job to carry on Charlie's mission because we know the battle isn't won.

00:05:45.000 We know the battle still has to be fought.

00:05:48.000 And the work is continuing.

00:05:50.000 As I said, today is the opening day of the Women's Leadership Summit in San Antonio.

00:05:56.000 We have a lot of great speakers, including Erica Kirk, but also Allie Beth Stuckey, Riley Gaines, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Alex Clark, Kaylee McEnany, a lot more.

00:06:04.000 They're going to speak to thousands of young women about.

00:06:07.000 Charlie's message, which is that faith and family are integral to the best lives that you can live.

00:06:13.000 Charlie spoke above all to young men, but he always had a very special place in his heart for young women.

00:06:18.000 He knew that young women were being harmed a tremendous amount by the modern lies of feminism, the modern, just secularism, and modern culture.

00:06:27.000 And he wanted to use his own marriage, his own family as a model that they could look towards that a better life can be lived.

00:06:35.000 And that message was getting through as.

00:06:40.000 At the end of Charlie's life.

00:06:41.000 And we are going to be continuing to carry that forward.

00:06:43.000 So, for the rest of the show, I want to invite all of you who are watching, send in your emails about how you started following Turning Point.

00:06:51.000 Have you been with us for five years, 10 years, 13 years, 14 years?

00:06:55.000 Send us emails about how you got involved and how Charlie impacted your life.

00:06:59.000 And I'll try to read some of those.

00:07:02.000 But I also want to, since it's the Women's Leadership Summit, I want to, and also since, actually, first, they've just put this up.

00:07:09.000 It's Charlie talking about how he started Turning Point USA 14 years ago.

00:07:12.000 Let's get that playing, clip 38.

00:07:13.000 It was June 5th, 2012.

00:07:16.000 I was wrestling with kind of what we're going to call this organization.

00:07:20.000 And my dad came up with a list of names, and all of a sudden he said, Turning Point.

00:07:25.000 I said, That's the one.

00:07:27.000 Spoke at a Tea Party rally out in Rockford, and the journey started.

00:07:32.000 No money, no connections, and no idea what I was doing.

00:07:36.000 Started to barnstorm Illinois and the Midwest, speaking at every possible Tea Party rally I could.

00:07:41.000 That was the garage that we literally started in Lamont, Illinois.

00:07:46.000 I had a burning desire.

00:07:47.000 Looking back at it, I wanted to grow this thing more than anything imaginable.

00:07:53.000 I poured every part of my being into this.

00:07:57.000 As Napoleon Hill would say, conceive, believe, work, achieve.

00:08:00.000 CBWA was the daily mantra that I would have.

00:08:05.000 Charlie lived by that mantra every day conceive, believe, do.

00:08:10.000 He, more than anyone I knew, he was a person who really believed in the power of one individual through hard work, intense self belief, intense self discipline.

00:08:19.000 He could change the world.

00:08:21.000 There's a sign that Charlie kept in his office that we still have there.

00:08:26.000 It has three things on it.

00:08:27.000 And it's how can I honor God today?

00:08:29.000 How can I serve others today?

00:08:31.000 How can I do something in the world today?

00:08:35.000 I'm going off memory here.

00:08:36.000 But Charlie, more than anyone I know, lived by those principles.

00:08:36.000 I might have it wrong.

00:08:40.000 And as a result, he was able to change the world.

00:08:43.000 14 years later, we live in an America that it did reach a turning point.

00:08:49.000 Things in this country changed because of the model Charlie set and the life he lived.

00:08:55.000 We have a faith revival.

00:08:57.000 We have.

00:08:58.000 Different beliefs among young people that we thought were impossible when this group was started 14 years ago.

00:09:05.000 And we have Charlie to thank for that, and especially the faith revival.

00:09:08.000 I really want to remark on that.

00:09:09.000 All of us have heard here have heard firsthand stories of people who dedicated their lives to Christ because of what they saw Charlie say, and we'll be frank, because of how Charlie lived his life all the way to the end.

00:09:21.000 And he accomplished so much in the first 13 years of Turning Point.

00:09:26.000 We're now at year 14, and we're going to carry on that legacy.

00:09:33.000 We have some good breaking news today.

00:09:34.000 We have a good jobs report has come in.

00:09:38.000 We've had three months now of consecutive 100,000 plus job growth in America, and even CNN has to admit it.

00:09:47.000 Let's play clip 24.

00:09:49.000 U.S. economy adding 172,000 jobs last month.

00:09:52.000 That easily surpassed the forecast, which was for 105,000.

00:09:56.000 Also, March and April were both revised higher.

00:10:01.000 That is encouraging, and that means that the U.S. economy has now added 100,000 jobs or more in three straight months.

00:10:08.000 We haven't seen that in more than two years.

00:10:12.000 CNBC has also been touting the numbers.

00:10:14.000 Let's get their version of it.

00:10:16.000 Clip 22.

00:10:17.000 Data is out.

00:10:18.000 The Made Job, Job, Jobs Report 172,000.

00:10:24.000 Is there any doubt that this anecdote, Levin, it's about a good labor market, has been very correct?

00:10:29.000 That is a really strong number.

00:10:31.000 And last month, Well, we had a revision from 115,000 to 179,000, which means the two month revision has got to be over 90,000.

00:10:44.000 We wanted to flag that.

00:10:45.000 I think we've talked on this show, Andrew and I, how there's a lot of doomerism going around on the right, and a lot of that doomerism is not justified.

00:10:54.000 People decide they just forget about the border, and people decide that the economy is catastrophically bad, even if it's not, because, like they said, first time in two years, Over three straight months of 100,000 jobs added, but it's actually even better than that because two years ago you could be adding hundreds of thousands of jobs, but we also had an open border with all of planet Earth. 0.99

00:11:14.000 We know that illegal immigrants were gobbling up jobs that could be taken by native born Americans. 0.99

00:11:21.000 We know that H 1Bs were pouring in, legal immigrants were pouring in to take jobs. 1.00

00:11:25.000 So any job added is a lot more valuable now because we're not endlessly importing the rest of the world to take those jobs. 0.99

00:11:33.000 So that's some good news because that's what we need for.

00:11:37.000 What Charlie cared most about American young people.

00:11:40.000 He cared a huge amount about the economic well being of young people.

00:11:44.000 He knew they were falling behind.

00:11:45.000 They were struggling to meet the milestones that their parents and grandparents met of marriage, children, family, house.

00:11:53.000 He knew they were struggling to hit those things, and he knew that the bedrock of them being able to achieve that is getting in, getting good jobs, building careers that could actually pay for those things.

00:12:05.000 But that is also at the same time a means to an end.

00:12:08.000 Charlie cared a tremendous amount about the spiritual health of young people.

00:12:12.000 He knew there was no point to.

00:12:14.000 Getting rich, if it was just spent on hedonism, if it was spent on emptiness, he knew you needed something more.

00:12:22.000 And so I want to continue tying this to the Women's Leadership Summit that's starting today by revisiting some of Charlie's remarks at past women's leadership summits.

00:12:31.000 And this is a very good clip of his on clip 34, talking about his celebration with his family of the Sabbath.

00:12:38.000 Clip 34.

00:12:39.000 I think that to our own detriment and to our own failure, we as Christians have decided to cast away, resting on one of the seven days.

00:12:48.000 God rested after creation.

00:12:50.000 That comes before the Hebrews. 0.97

00:12:52.000 It comes even before the creation of the modern world and civilization as we know it.

00:12:58.000 And so we honor the Sabbath.

00:12:59.000 We are very serious about it.

00:13:01.000 We get to spend more time with our family.

00:13:03.000 We do no news.

00:13:04.000 We do no work.

00:13:05.000 And it says very clearly in the scriptures for six days you shall work, and the seventh day you shall rest.

00:13:11.000 If you are feeling overrun by society, you might be feeling depressed or anxious.

00:13:16.000 Here's just one way that you might be able to improve turn your phone off for one day, no contact.

00:13:22.000 No social media, no work, your mental health will improve dramatically.

00:13:27.000 He was a man with a great deal of wisdom, and here's some more wisdom.

00:13:30.000 This is another speech at the Leadership Summit.

00:13:34.000 Clip 35, it's him talking about our responsibilities as ambassadors of our worldview.

00:13:39.000 Let's play that, clip 35.

00:13:41.000 What do we always do when we ask for questions?

00:13:45.000 We ask for the disagreements to go to the front of the line, right?

00:13:48.000 In fact, we demand it, right?

00:13:50.000 We like extract the disagreement.

00:13:53.000 And I think.

00:13:54.000 And I'm not, and you guys can make your own assumption looking at the videos.

00:13:57.000 We always treat everybody with respect and we listen to what they have to say.

00:14:02.000 In fact, we want it to be a forum of discussion and debate and dialogue and that collision of ideas.

00:14:09.000 And I totally agree because I think there's too much division and divisiveness.

00:14:12.000 We have a responsibility as free speech advocates to be the ambassadors of decency and respect.

00:14:19.000 We do.

00:14:21.000 To hear what other people have to say and to find common ground.

00:14:25.000 Charlie lived by, I think one of the reasons Charlie resonated so much with young people, including young people who weren't believers, weren't necessarily in full alignment with Charlie, but he had so much resonance with them because more than just about anyone I've ever seen in my life, Charlie so truly lived everything he preached.

00:14:46.000 He talked about the importance of decency and respect, and he went onto those campuses.

00:14:50.000 He confronted people who said only hateful things about him, and he could Respond with love.

00:14:56.000 He could preach the gospel everywhere he went.

00:14:59.000 And with the Sabbath thing, Charlie talked about being Christian.

00:15:02.000 He said people should be Christian, but there are a lot of people in public life who say they are Christian.

00:15:07.000 Charlie clearly had the gospel pervade every part of his life.

00:15:13.000 Even when he was away from the public stage, I remember we would have conversations with Charlie and how he approached political topics, how he approached his own life, how he approached running a company.

00:15:22.000 It came through a Christian lens.

00:15:24.000 What would a believer of the gospel do?

00:15:26.000 What would Christ do? 0.97

00:15:29.000 How should a Christian live their life?

00:15:31.000 And I think that's how he was able to speak to so many people, including we're getting these interviews here.

00:15:37.000 I have one from Twyla.

00:15:38.000 She says, My husband and I watched Charlie every day on Rav.

00:15:42.000 He was a very important part of our lives.

00:15:44.000 We miss him every single day.

00:15:47.000 We also have Christina.

00:15:48.000 She says, Thank you, TPUSA.

00:15:50.000 I was always so busy working in my younger adult life, I had little time for politics.

00:15:55.000 But my mother told me about TPUSA and she always praised Charlie.

00:15:58.000 After listening to him, I understood why I lost my husband in 2016.

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00:17:31.000 So, we've been talking a lot.

00:17:32.000 First, we were talking about Tofu Tallarico in Texas, and the other big icon of the Democrats running for Senate this year is the oyster farmer of Maine, Graham Platner.

00:17:44.000 Andrew's really been hammering him on X. He's been talking about his oyster business is kind of a Nepo baby fake. 0.94

00:17:50.000 He's Getting possibly dubious maximum VA disability payments. 0.94

00:17:56.000 And he's a man with a Nazi tattoo that he claims he had no idea about.

00:18:01.000 And he is a man with several fraught prior relationships.

00:18:05.000 He was caught a few days ago.

00:18:06.000 They announced he admitted he'd been sending texts to women even while married.

00:18:11.000 And now the New York Times did a dive into his relationships prior to his marriage.

00:18:16.000 Their headline Several Women Who Dated Graham Platner Recall Unsettling Behavior.

00:18:22.000 That's a rather mild way of putting it.

00:18:24.000 We're joined now by the editor in chief of the Daily Caller and an old friend of mine, Amber Duke.

00:18:30.000 Amber, are you there?

00:18:31.000 Hi, Blake.

00:18:31.000 Nice to see you.

00:18:32.000 All righty.

00:18:33.000 Well, spell it out for us.

00:18:35.000 Was Graham Platner's behavior unsettling, or is there something a little bit more to this?

00:18:40.000 I think what the New York Times did here was what we could call a soft catch and kill.

00:18:45.000 So, what they did is they took these accusations from women, the primary of which and the most serious was from a conservative activist by the name of Lindsay Fifield, who I also, full disclosure, know personally.

00:18:57.000 And they tried to bury the most salacious accusations under a bunch of PR fluff, euphemism, and even under ex girlfriend character witness from people that were provided to them by the Graham Platner campaign.

00:19:11.000 So they apparently decided that these accusations were too serious for them to pass on.

00:19:17.000 So they decided to run the story, but basically water it down significantly so they can say, hey, we did our jobs, but also give enough wiggle room for Platner to say that these accusations.

00:19:28.000 Are not damaging enough that he would need to drop out of the race.

00:19:31.000 Because the most serious accusation that Fifield makes is that Platner actually physically abused her, claiming that he would grab her shoulders so hard that he would leave marks on her, that in one case he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a room, closed the door, would not let her out.

00:19:49.000 So she actually had to sleep there overnight until she was able to leave in the morning.

00:19:54.000 And she also accused Platner of definitely knowing what that Nazi tattoo was because she had provided the New York Times with corroborating texts of her.

00:20:04.000 Telling friends that he had this tattoo and that it was indeed a Nazi symbol, well before Graham Plattner insists that he found out about it from the media.

00:20:13.000 So they deliberately buried all of this information 22 plus paragraphs down in the piece, slapped this headline on it to say that his behavior was merely unsettling because most people are not going to read past the first three to four paragraphs of one of these hit pieces.

00:20:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:20:29.000 I'm just thinking, I think all of us remember the Brett Kavanaugh saga from, oh man, that was nearly a decade ago, I think eight years ago now.

00:20:38.000 And the way they spun that, where they're taking kind of total nothing burger stuff and suggesting that Brett Kavanaugh is this psychopathic abuser.

00:20:47.000 And then, as you say here, it's just, yeah, during one argument, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom, and held the door closed from the other side so she couldn't get out, telling her to remain there until she was calm.

00:21:01.000 I can think of a lot of other ways of describing this.

00:21:04.000 Yeah, wrench your arm behind your back and imprison you in a room.

00:21:09.000 I can think of how the New York Times would characterize that in many other situations.

00:21:14.000 And as you say, besides the fact that they lowball how it's described, it's also buried very deep in this article.

00:21:21.000 It's that classic New York Times reverse Christmas tree construction.

00:21:26.000 They lead with the absolute softest stuff.

00:21:28.000 And then you're, gosh, this looks like about what, 25 paragraphs in?

00:21:33.000 They go, oh, and by the way, he maybe abused his girlfriend.

00:21:36.000 That's exactly what happened here.

00:21:37.000 And the other key point to make is that.

00:21:40.000 And Fifield has now confirmed this herself on her ex account.

00:21:44.000 She was supposed to be in this story alongside two other accusers who were preparing to accuse Platner of sexual assault.

00:21:51.000 Now, those two women's stories were ripped out of the piece at the last minute.

00:21:55.000 Fifield was not informed that their stories were not going to be in there. 0.98

00:21:59.000 So they basically put her on an island, making her the key accuser.

00:22:03.000 There is one other named person in this piece, but she did not go into details about the quote unquote unsettling incident that caused her to cut off contact with Graham Platner.

00:22:13.000 So, what they did is they basically served Lindsay up on a silver platter so that Plattner's allies in the Democratic media and in the influencer space could just focus on discrediting her, claiming that she was only doing this for partisan motivations and that they were unable to corroborate her story.

00:22:32.000 Now, compare this to the Christine Blasey Ford saga.

00:22:35.000 There's no dispute here that Lindsay and Graham dated.

00:22:39.000 There's no dispute that she believed he was toxic and engaged in ways that were.

00:22:46.000 Quite awful to her.

00:22:48.000 There is a contemporaneous diary entry from shortly after they stopped dating where she describes him as the most toxic, abusive man that she's ever met.

00:22:56.000 Friends who knew her at the time knew that she was dating Graham and also believed the relationship to be toxic.

00:23:03.000 The only thing that the Times was not able to corroborate were these specific allegations of physical abuse.

00:23:09.000 And I'm sure it won't surprise you to hear this, Blake.

00:23:11.000 This is not uncommon for abuse victims because they're often embarrassed by the fact that they are in these relationships and continue to be.

00:23:18.000 After the physical abuse happened.

00:23:20.000 So it's not super common for them to share it with their friends.

00:23:24.000 Now, all of this is to say, I don't know whether or not the physical abuse actually happened. 0.78

00:23:29.000 I do know Lindsay, as I said.

00:23:31.000 I do believe her to be a credible, truthful person.

00:23:34.000 But I think the key point here is that what the New York Times did was journalistic malpractice.

00:23:39.000 They actually caused harm to a potential victim by feeding her false promises about what was going to be in this story and then fed her to the wolves in the area of the Democratic media and activist establishment that were able to go out and attack her, even preemptively before this story came out, but certainly after as well.

00:24:00.000 Well, even if it was a soft catch and kill by the New York Times, really, Platner himself may be awkward enough that he manages to botch the gift the Times has given him.

00:24:12.000 He went on MS Now last night on Chris Hayes to give an interview in response to this, and more than a few of the clips where he tries to explain himself come off quite odd.

00:24:22.000 Here's Chris Hayes.

00:24:23.000 He says people were talking about your Nazi tattoo, and you claim you didn't know about it.

00:24:29.000 Let's do clip 39.

00:24:31.000 How does she know it's a Nazi tattoo in August of last year and you don't know it's a Nazi tattoo in August of last year?

00:24:39.000 Well, she certainly didn't send that text to me.

00:24:41.000 So, whoever she sent it to and was talking to, that's, I can't say why, but I will say that I certainly didn't know.

00:24:52.000 And the text messages she's sending to friends who may have recognized it, they didn't tell me that.

00:24:58.000 So.

00:24:59.000 Now, Amber, as you know, they say in this article that supposedly he would show off this tattoo to.

00:25:05.000 His girlfriends and call it my Totenkampf.

00:25:08.000 He would joke about it being a Nazi tattoo.

00:25:11.000 I think that sounds a lot more believable to me than this guy permanently put a thing on his body for a decade and a half and never wondered what its origin was or any facts about it.

00:25:23.000 Sounds more plausible to me.

00:25:24.000 Chris also asked him about the sexting story that came out last week.

00:25:28.000 Let's play clip 29.

00:25:30.000 When did this stop?

00:25:32.000 If it stopped, if there was stuff that you're not proud of that you worked out with your wife, you don't want to talk about the details, when did it stop?

00:25:39.000 Oh, it stopped when it was happening.

00:25:43.000 I mean, like it was Amy and I, Amy and I, it happened soon after we got married.

00:25:49.000 And we dealt with it very, very early in our relationship.

00:25:54.000 And so that's when it stopped.

00:25:57.000 That's a great response to how did your sex scene stop?

00:26:00.000 It stopped while it was happening.

00:26:02.000 Yeah.

00:26:03.000 What do you make of that?

00:26:04.000 It's truly incredible.

00:26:05.000 It's incredible.

00:26:06.000 I mean, clearly this guy is not being honest in this interview.

00:26:10.000 It's very obvious from.

00:26:12.000 The sort of fake compassionate stare with the downturned eyes and the slight frown, and even the way he responded to Lindsay's accusations.

00:26:24.000 He was asked directly about the allegations of physical abuse.

00:26:29.000 And he said, Chris Hayes asked him, Is Lindsay lying?

00:26:32.000 Is she lying about this?

00:26:34.000 And he said, No, this is not true.

00:26:39.000 That's not the question you were asked.

00:26:40.000 It just seems a little sketchy to me.

00:26:42.000 I mean, the Nazi tattoo thing, I think, to me is pretty cut and dry.

00:26:45.000 If your ex girlfriend, who is by no means a history buff or somebody who would recognize these symbols one off, is telling her friends, hey, my ex boyfriend's now running for Senate and he has a freaking Nazi tattoo, which nobody in the media knew about at the time.

00:27:03.000 This was not public information.

00:27:04.000 Only someone who had seen him shirtless would have known he had this tattoo.

00:27:09.000 And only someone who would have talked to him about it would have known actually what it was.

00:27:13.000 I doubt she would have gone home and Googled it afterwards.

00:27:16.000 He told her it was just a skull and crossbones.

00:27:18.000 She's texting her friends about it in August.

00:27:21.000 He says in October, I just found out about this.

00:27:23.000 You're telling me this for the first time.

00:27:26.000 Come on.

00:27:26.000 Nobody believes that.

00:27:27.000 Exactly.

00:27:28.000 This scandal is getting more legs.

00:27:30.000 Even if it's a soft catch and kill, the New York Times reporting unflattering things about a Democrat Senate candidate is usually not a good sign.

00:27:38.000 So, Democrat leaders are getting asked about this, though, and their response has been mostly a shrug.

00:27:43.000 They asked Hakeem Jeffries about this, and he says, I haven't really been watching it.

00:27:48.000 Clip 25.

00:27:50.000 In terms of the allegations that have been waged with respect to this particular candidate for the Senate, I haven't followed it closely.

00:27:58.000 I will continue to defer to Leader Schumer.

00:28:02.000 And Senator Gillibrand, in terms of the best path forward in Maine.

00:28:07.000 He's deferring to Senator Gillibrand.

00:28:08.000 That's a notable name to call out. 1.00

00:28:10.000 Gillibrand really just, I was about to say, disgraced herself, dishonored herself in the late 2010s, tried to really brand herself as a Me Too senator. 0.98

00:28:20.000 And now we have this Me Too eruption going on with one of the Democrats, should we say, celebrity picks here. 0.93

00:28:27.000 We've got another clip and then we'll go back to Amber. 0.89

00:28:29.000 They asked Alexandria Ocasio Cortez about this, clip 31.

00:28:34.000 A viewer reported by Grim Plattner in this New York Times article trapping a woman in a room and being physically.

00:28:40.000 Yeah, I mean, as you all know, this all kind of just came out.

00:28:46.000 I've been doing legislative business on the floor, so I need to dig into everything further before commenting on it.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, because I think this reporting just recently came out, so I just want to make sure that I am fully read up on it before I comment on it.

00:29:00.000 Now, as you know, Amber, even if that report had just come out, there had been.

00:29:05.000 Reports last week, reports in the last few months.

00:29:07.000 There's plenty of stuff for her to know about with their Senate candidate who has stood out supposedly as a man of the far left, kind of of an AOC brand.

00:29:17.000 What should we make of the Democrat response to all of this?

00:29:20.000 If you look at any one of these Democrats who is dismissing these allegations or giving these mealy mouthed answers, I would guarantee you that 99% of them, you dig through their social media history and you will find something of the following either a Believe all women, a hashtag me too, or some kind of screed about how Kavanaugh does not deserve to be sitting on the Supreme Court.

00:29:45.000 It's really without fail.

00:29:46.000 I mean, Sheldon Whitehouse immediately smeared Fifield as just a partisan motivated political actor.

00:29:53.000 He has numerous tweets in his history talking about standing with women and believing all women.

00:29:58.000 And so the hypocrisy here is really, really rich.

00:30:02.000 And it just tells us what we already know about Democrats, which is that they are obsessed with power, they will do anything to get it.

00:30:08.000 They don't have a great alternative in Maine. 1.00

00:30:10.000 Janet Mills doesn't have any money. 1.00

00:30:12.000 So, even if she were to unsuspend her campaign and try to square off against Platner, she has less than a week before the primary. 0.99

00:30:18.000 She has no money with which to campaign.

00:30:21.000 Platner still has about eight to 10 days before he has to drop out of the race.

00:30:26.000 Otherwise, he's locked in.

00:30:29.000 Where is this magical mystery candidate that's going to replace him and potentially go up against Susan Collins coming from?

00:30:35.000 So, I think the Democrats feel that they have no choice now but to rally around Platner.

00:30:41.000 They think that he has a strong chance of beating Susan Collins.

00:30:44.000 The polls are pretty tight.

00:30:46.000 So they're just going to go all in and try to brush off whatever scandals come through as being just Republican smear jobs.

00:30:55.000 I just can't get over how we had to endure the smearing of Brett Kavanaugh.

00:30:59.000 Obviously, a respectable, not just a respectable dude, but a very boring dude. 0.65

00:31:03.000 It's practically unfathomable to imagine him sexually assaulting a woman.

00:31:08.000 And then we had all these media outlets run with how Christine Blasey Ford, she was so believable.

00:31:12.000 It was so compelling her testimony.

00:31:15.000 And then we have this where it's vastly more believable from everything we know about Platner with his history of infidelity, his history of Nazi SS tattoos.

00:31:24.000 And then suddenly it's radio silence, no big deal.

00:31:28.000 Let's forge ahead.

00:31:29.000 Does this show a real transformation in the party, or is this really how the party has always been?

00:31:35.000 Do you think?

00:31:36.000 I think this is how it's always been.

00:31:37.000 It's always been this partisan gamesmanship.

00:31:40.000 We saw the same thing going back to Clarence Thomas.

00:31:43.000 And I think when we look at the specific allegations in the New York Times piece as well, let's be really clear about the fact that they're not over exaggerated by the alleged victim, right?

00:31:53.000 She says, I, he never punched me, you know, he didn't break my arm.

00:31:59.000 He never slapped me.

00:32:01.000 And she doesn't oversell what she's telling this outlet.

00:32:07.000 She's clearly trying to be very measured and accurate in what she's saying.

00:32:11.000 And yet she has been accused of being this sort of manipulative, politically motivated person by the left.

00:32:19.000 And the other important element of this piece as well is that I started getting text messages and phone calls.

00:32:27.000 Yesterday morning, that this piece was about to come out.

00:32:32.000 And we quickly after that saw numerous tweets from people on the left, like Kyle Kalinske, Crystal Ball, Emma Viglund, saying, Hey guys, the New York Times is about to do a hit job on Graham Plattner.

00:32:46.000 And we even had one Democratic strategist indicate that he heard that there were going to be sexual assault victims on the record.

00:32:54.000 So all of the potential details that were going to show up in this story were apparently circulated by the Plattner campaign preemptively.

00:33:02.000 So that they could start preparing their defense.

00:33:04.000 So the New York Times basically gave them an open window for them to start preparing to attack the victim that they were supposedly trying to tell the story of.

00:33:14.000 I mean, the other side of this as well is that these two alleged sexual assault victims who were supposed to be in the New York Times piece still exist.

00:33:25.000 They haven't had their stories printed, but they still exist.

00:33:28.000 And my guess is if they see what the New York Times did to Five Field, who she says, Has they been in contact with each other?

00:33:35.000 She's been talking to these other victims.

00:33:37.000 They created something of a support group.

00:33:39.000 There's still the possibility for them to come out and share their stories without the New York Times.

00:33:45.000 And so, I think what we're seeing from the Democrats and from their allies in the media is a level of panic of trying to tarnish Fifield so aggressively and thoroughly that these other victims no longer feel comfortable coming forward.

00:33:59.000 Exactly.

00:34:00.000 And I want to take a chance.

00:34:01.000 So, Lindsay, the ex girl thing, the woman whose arm was held behind her back by Platner, she posted something.

00:34:08.000 Early today, about how she was treated by the New York Times.

00:34:12.000 In early April, the New York Times came to me.

00:34:15.000 I asked how they got my number.

00:34:16.000 I said I was not interested in sharing my story. 0.92

00:34:19.000 They said, but wait, there are other women, women terrified to tell their stories. 1.00

00:34:23.000 You need to band together. 0.60

00:34:24.000 We will help you.

00:34:26.000 We will protect you.

00:34:28.000 It felt like fate.

00:34:29.000 She says she'd seen the Eric Swalwell story happen.

00:34:32.000 She said she'd seen similar stories.

00:34:33.000 So she says, I told them, I let them take pictures of my diary pages.

00:34:37.000 I sent them screenshots of messages.

00:34:39.000 It was excruciating.

00:34:40.000 And then we don't have time for all of it here, but I invite everyone to go and find this online because, as you say, the New York Times, they then hung her out to dry. 0.98

00:34:49.000 And that's quite the thing for the gray lady to do after how they've handled so many other stories. 0.89

00:34:55.000 Amber, thank you for coming on.

00:34:57.000 Check her out.

00:34:57.000 Check out her work at the Daily Caller.

00:34:59.000 It's my old haunt.

00:35:00.000 I highly recommend it.

00:35:02.000 Thanks for coming on, Amber.

00:35:03.000 Thanks, Blake.

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00:37:47.000 This is our Friday Ask Us Anything hour where our subscribers and members can join our weekly call or send in messages to ask whatever they want of this show.

00:37:59.000 But we're also Joined by a special guest this time because otherwise it'd just be me.

00:38:04.000 Everyone else is off at the Women's Leadership Summit.

00:38:06.000 We're joined by a longtime friend of the show.

00:38:08.000 Sometimes he's mustachioed, today he's not.

00:38:11.000 We're joined by Alex Marlowe, host of The Alex Marlowe Show.

00:38:14.000 Alex, are you there?

00:38:15.000 Blake, it's great to be with you.

00:38:16.000 I kind of wish I was at the Women's Leadership Summit, though, but I did not get the invitation.

00:38:20.000 I am a non gestating parent, and I think that you guys tend to keep it to the gestating parents at the summit, but that's okay.

00:38:31.000 And I'm honored to be here on the show.

00:38:33.000 All righty.

00:38:33.000 Well, we look forward to next year's gestating parents leadership summit.

00:38:38.000 Oh, man.

00:38:38.000 Oh, that felt painful even to recite.

00:38:41.000 Ghastly.

00:38:42.000 They're trying to sell us that.

00:38:44.000 They're trying to sell us that that's going to take.

00:38:46.000 Is there any chance that it actually takes hold that we just start referring to people as gestating individuals or non gestating?

00:38:52.000 I don't think it'll take, but it could take in the form of blue state laws.

00:38:56.000 We've talked about the vibe shift.

00:38:57.000 There's been a shift away. 0.99

00:38:58.000 We've actually been winning on the trans issue. 0.83

00:39:00.000 And in red states, there's been this turn, but blue states only seem to get bluer and it's very bleak.

00:39:06.000 But, Alex, in addition, as you may know, today, along with the start of the Leadership Summit, today is 14 years of Turning Point USA.

00:39:14.000 So, I've been asking our viewers and listeners to send in emails about how they first encountered Charlie, how Charlie changed their life.

00:39:21.000 And I want to read some of those throughout this hour.

00:39:24.000 So, I want to start with a few of those before we get to our first question.

00:39:28.000 Kelsey, she says, I first learned about Charlie, ironically, when he was a guest on a certain woman's show on Prager U.

00:39:36.000 I remember thinking, Who the heck is this guy?

00:39:39.000 I love what he's saying.

00:39:40.000 His podcast quickly became my go to.

00:39:43.000 I remember so looking forward to the then only two days a week show.

00:39:47.000 And when I went to it daily during the COVID days, Charlie has built my faith and awareness of how we have a duty to use it in all areas of life.

00:39:55.000 He helped solidify the conviction in me and my husband to start a family.

00:40:00.000 We had initially not planned to have children.

00:40:04.000 Charlie helped turn that around.

00:40:06.000 And I'm seven weeks and two days today.

00:40:09.000 Oh, God bless you, Kelsey.

00:40:11.000 I didn't even know she was going to say that in the email.

00:40:13.000 I'm so happy to see that.

00:40:15.000 I want another one here from Sandra.

00:40:17.000 I started following CK a little over a year ago to become a better debater and public speaker.

00:40:22.000 And I learned way more than I thought I would.

00:40:24.000 I learned we must be bold in our faith, we must stand for our beliefs.

00:40:28.000 And I learned how to be a better debater.

00:40:30.000 Since September, I've changed my life dramatically to live for faith every day.

00:40:36.000 We have Mick, or I'm not sure if it's Mick or Mike, but.

00:40:40.000 I got hooked on Charlie around 2017.

00:40:42.000 I was in a very liberal middle school in Oregon.

00:40:45.000 He gave me the words to defend my views when those teachers would question my politics and faith.

00:40:50.000 I enjoyed seeing his TikToks, his debates, his clips, and his ex postings up to the day he was taken from us.

00:40:56.000 Thank you, Charlie, for working to save the West.

00:41:00.000 Thank you for all those.

00:41:01.000 We'll keep getting to those throughout the hour, but we want to get to our first AMA.

00:41:06.000 So let's see who we have here.

00:41:08.000 How about, let's do David here.

00:41:13.000 David, unmute yourself and what's your question?

00:41:16.000 My question is thanks for reading those.

00:41:19.000 Of course.

00:41:20.000 I met Charlie, well, I never met him, but two years ago and turned my life around.

00:41:29.000 So appreciate what he's done.

00:41:31.000 My question is how in California, we're in communist California, how do we stop the legislature from cheating?

00:41:41.000 Stop them from cheating.

00:41:44.000 Alex, I saw in your preview, you were also mentioning specifically the Nick Shirley Act, which is this really galling act they have in California to basically make it illegal for Nick Shirley types to, as they would say, harass, but we would say police, monitor, expose immigration support services, companies that are providing aid to immigrants.

00:42:07.000 Many of them we know are illegal, many of them we know are engaging in fraud.

00:42:11.000 They're passing bills like this in California.

00:42:13.000 We know they've passed a lot of sanctuary bills.

00:42:15.000 Alex, how do you feel?

00:42:17.000 Can we save California?

00:42:18.000 It's very tough.

00:42:19.000 I mean, this is the big, I think this is kind of the final test of what we're seeing right now.

00:42:23.000 If somehow Spencer Pratt can survive the mail in ballot fraud that we're going to see in LA and Steve Hilton can survive in California, then we'll have a chance to at least start resetting things.

00:42:38.000 But some things are pretty bleak out here.

00:42:41.000 First of all, the system is so rigged against fairness because, again, we count votes for 30 days in California.

00:42:48.000 I know this sounds crazy to people, but the process is literally 30 days.

00:42:52.000 Anything that's postmarked by the end of the day, on election day, counts.

00:42:57.000 It takes up to seven days to gather all those.

00:42:59.000 And then there's a ballot curing period where you can technically change ballots if they meet certain conditions.

00:43:05.000 And all of this takes a month.

00:43:07.000 And during that month is all time to cheat.

00:43:09.000 That's why the Democrats have designed that system.

00:43:11.000 And the only way that we're going to fix it, because a lot of this stuff is dictated by localities and by states, is if the Republicans win.

00:43:19.000 And there's just not that many Republicans left.

00:43:20.000 I mean, there's a lot of them.

00:43:21.000 It's the most Republicans in the country on California.

00:43:24.000 But everyone who's here, myself included, we think about leaving every five minutes.

00:43:29.000 We can't stop looking at real estate in other parts of the country, in Arizona and in.

00:43:33.000 Texas and in Florida.

00:43:34.000 Yeah.

00:43:35.000 It's really bleak.

00:43:36.000 There's a study called by these academics.

00:43:38.000 I know academics are often bad, but they're not always bad.

00:43:41.000 And there's a paper one of them did.

00:43:42.000 They called it the Curly Effect.

00:43:44.000 There was a mayor of Boston named Curly a century ago.

00:43:48.000 And he was basically a terrible mayor for Boston, but he was so bad, he drove all of his political opponents out of the city.

00:43:53.000 And so he kept winning elections despite being terrible at running things.

00:43:58.000 And we've seen similar things take effect in other cities, in Detroit, in D.C. As these cities have entered death spirals, they've had these mayors who can just stick around for.

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 A decade plus on end because it's only their people who stick around.

00:44:12.000 Same thing's going on in California.

00:44:14.000 But I know people want white pills.

00:44:16.000 I have a white pill for you.

00:44:17.000 You've mentioned their month to count ballots.

00:44:19.000 That's before the Supreme Court right now.

00:44:20.000 We may, by the end of the month, we might have the Supreme Court say, actually, it's not legal for you to just take a month on these.

00:44:28.000 You have to count ballots that arrive by election day.

00:44:31.000 Otherwise, you're breaking the rules.

00:44:33.000 You're doing something that's against really our Republican principles, our Constitution.

00:44:38.000 It's not widely known.

00:44:39.000 We're required to have a Republican form of government in each state.

00:44:43.000 And they've often interpreted it to basically say you can't do obvious shenanigans.

00:44:48.000 We can't have the U.S. be resembling some third world Latin American dictatorship.

00:44:54.000 We found a new load of votes three weeks in.

00:44:56.000 How convenient.

00:44:57.000 So I think that's a way we're going to make changes.

00:44:59.000 And I think Spencer Pratt is also showing us, obviously, we don't even know if he's going to make it to the runoff, but the energy around him, I think, is setting a template for where you can find hope.

00:45:10.000 Maybe it'll be too late in Los Angeles, but it might be a way that someone who can run in his style might be able to get fired across California.

00:45:19.000 They can get those suburban voters who mostly vote Democrat, but they're not 100% left every single time, and they've moved to the suburbs of Los Angeles because the city's too crazy.

00:45:29.000 I think there can be hope.

00:45:30.000 I think Steve Hilton, he could potentially perform.

00:45:33.000 Even if he won't win, he can perform well.

00:45:35.000 We have to remain combative in California because, as Charlie's shown with Turning Point, we never know how the zeitgeist is going to change.

00:45:44.000 We never know what.

00:45:45.000 Incredible individuals like Charlie are going to be able to do to change people's opinions, whether it's young people or Hispanics or other groups that have been locked in as Democrats forever.

00:45:53.000 So the trick is you may have to leave California, but if you're not going to, you keep fighting because it is the good fight to have.

00:46:02.000 And there's always potential white pills.

00:46:03.000 Sometimes the Supreme Court throws you a bone.

00:46:06.000 We got an absolute flood of emails.

00:46:08.000 I asked for them at the start of the show today how people encountered Charlie, how he changed their lives.

00:46:13.000 We're getting some incredible ones.

00:46:14.000 I want to read a few more of these.

00:46:16.000 Shelly says, I discovered.

00:46:18.000 Podcast during the pandemic, when I found Charlie and TPUSA, I was hooked.

00:46:22.000 Charlie was the most gifted, articulate, intelligent young man I had ever seen and heard.

00:46:27.000 I'm a single baby boomer woman from Minnesota with no kids, but I care so much about the U.S., its future, and the young generations coming up.

00:46:34.000 Charlie gave me so much hope.

00:46:37.000 I saw him speak three times at Dream City Church in Phoenix.

00:46:40.000 I didn't know how precious those events would become to me.

00:46:43.000 Thank you, guys and gals, for carrying on.

00:46:46.000 Thank you, Michelle Shelley.

00:46:48.000 Thank you so much for that.

00:46:49.000 We have.

00:46:52.000 Let's see.

00:46:53.000 Annali says I started getting to know Charlie when his show started on Rav in June 2022.

00:46:58.000 I loved his content and how he spoke about his faith.

00:47:01.000 It gave me more strength as a Catholic.

00:47:03.000 I used to only go to church on significant days, as the Catholic Church in the U.S. is not what I learned growing up in Cuba.

00:47:10.000 Because of Charlie, I became a more conservative person.

00:47:13.000 And even after becoming a mother and so on, after his assassination, I started to watch more of his speeches and how the Constitution is connected to God and the Bible.

00:47:21.000 My passion for this country has grown stronger every day, and my faith has grown deeper.

00:47:26.000 Thank you for that one.

00:47:28.000 I want to get another one here.

00:47:29.000 Katie says For 20 years, church was a part of my past.

00:47:32.000 A closed book I had no intention of reopening.

00:47:35.000 I had built a life outside it, comfortable in my routine.

00:47:38.000 When Charlie left this world, that routine shattered.

00:47:42.000 The silence Charlie left behind was deafening, and in that emptiness, a quiet urge began to pull at me.

00:47:49.000 It was the prompt to seek solace in the cadence of a church service.

00:47:53.000 Walking back in after two decades felt surreal.

00:47:56.000 The hymns sounded the same.

00:47:58.000 The light filtered through the windows just like before, but it was entirely different.

00:48:02.000 Charlie's passing broke my heart wide open.

00:48:05.000 But in the wreckage, it reopened a path to faith that had sat dark for 20 years.

00:48:11.000 Rest in peace, Charlie.

00:48:12.000 Thank you for starting your amazing organization.

00:48:15.000 We miss you.

00:48:16.000 Thank you, Katie.

00:48:17.000 That's an incredible testimony.

00:48:18.000 I've been reading these basically blind as I go through, and that's an incredible testimony.

00:48:24.000 Alex, do you have anything to say about 14 years of training?

00:48:26.000 How did you meet Charlie?

00:48:28.000 So, this is, I got to meet him from the very start.

00:48:31.000 So, I got two good meeting Charlie stories.

00:48:33.000 The first one is, of course, Charlie started his public life at Breitbart.

00:48:37.000 Which is just unbelievable.

00:48:38.000 He sent us a story.

00:48:39.000 He was a reader of Breitbart when he was a high school student in Chicago.

00:48:43.000 And he had bias in his textbooks.

00:48:45.000 And he sent us an article.

00:48:46.000 And we did what we always do at Breitbart.

00:48:48.000 We encourage citizen journalism.

00:48:49.000 And we said, well, why don't you write it up?

00:48:51.000 And I think he was frankly somewhat surprised by the invitation, but took us up on it.

00:48:55.000 And he worked on the piece really hard.

00:48:57.000 He told me years later.

00:48:59.000 And he caught lightning in a bottle, completely caught fire.

00:49:01.000 He was all over TV and radio, was on Fox News.

00:49:04.000 Every journalist kind of dreams of this as their first piece hits this hard.

00:49:07.000 And it did.

00:49:08.000 And it really, Turning Point had started.

00:49:11.000 But it was very, very nascent at that point.

00:49:13.000 And I really helped Charlie get his foot in the door with, I think, some donors and start taking it from there and doing the amazing things he did with it.

00:49:21.000 It all started with a piece of Breitbart News, which is something I'll be telling that story for the rest of my life.

00:49:26.000 Another fun story is about, I would say probably it was 2015, I think it was.

00:49:32.000 So maybe a few years after it started, maybe it was earlier, actually, it can't have been 2015.

00:49:37.000 It might have been 2012 or so.

00:49:40.000 But anyway, I had met Charlie.

00:49:42.000 At a tea party event in South Carolina.

00:49:44.000 This is definitely pre Trump.

00:49:46.000 And we were both there, and Charlie had basically a whole day to kill.

00:49:50.000 And so we just hung out because I was emceeing part of the day.

00:49:53.000 And Charlie never had a minute to kill in the last five years I knew him, but he apparently had like a whole day.

00:49:58.000 We were just hanging out at this tea party.

00:50:00.000 And I spent the day trying to recruit him, trying to get him to come work for me at Breitbart.

00:50:04.000 And he said, You know, the turning point is just, it's a little too big.

00:50:08.000 I got to see where this goes, I got to see this through.

00:50:11.000 And unfortunately for Breitbart, But positively for Charlie, I think he made the right choice and he did a lot with his decision to stay at Turning Point and do that.

00:50:20.000 That's a tremendous story.

00:50:20.000 I love that.

00:50:22.000 You helped push him along, but I think, obviously, at this point, I think we see the hand of God in that.

00:50:27.000 Absolutely.

00:50:28.000 As Charlie himself would endorse, that luck is not just luck.

00:50:31.000 Luck is when talent meets opportunity and when hard work meets opportunity.

00:50:35.000 And Charlie had both talent and hard work in spades.

00:50:39.000 I want to get to another one of our AMA questions.

00:50:41.000 Anthony, unmute yourself.

00:50:43.000 What's your question?

00:50:44.000 Hi, Blake, and hi, Alex.

00:50:46.000 I was going to say Andrew for a minute.

00:50:48.000 It happens every day.

00:50:49.000 It happened yesterday.

00:50:51.000 Oh, hi.

00:50:52.000 I get called in.

00:50:52.000 I'll try not to make it happen again.

00:50:54.000 So, my question is this.

00:50:57.000 We're in Pride Month, as we all know.

00:51:00.000 And why are we pushing it so much?

00:51:03.000 And why is a small group of people not understanding that the United States flag represents everybody?

00:51:08.000 It doesn't matter if you're male, female, straight, gay, whatever, different color skin.

00:51:14.000 Because in my town in Webster, New York, we have a new supervisor.

00:51:17.000 He decided last Friday to just go out, buy a Pride flag, and put it on the flagpole on this past Monday.

00:51:27.000 Because it hit close to home for him.

00:51:29.000 It has now created a culture war in our town of a little over 40,000 people.

00:51:33.000 There are some people that are not happy with it because he just did it on his own.

00:51:38.000 We've never had a Pride flag put up in past years.

00:51:42.000 And now, last night at one of the town board meetings, it got pretty heated from what my friends were telling me that were there.

00:51:47.000 And there were a lot of people in the open forum that were in support of it, Pride flag.

00:51:51.000 There were some people that weren't.

00:51:52.000 But the two Republicans and a moderate Democrat put on a floor a resolution.

00:51:58.000 For and they motioned it to only allow the U.S. flag, the state flag, and if the town has a town flag on the town hall flagpole.

00:52:08.000 The pride flag came down this morning at 9 a.m.

00:52:10.000 It's made a lot of news in everything, but like I said, my question is why is a small group pushing this when we have one flag that should represent everybody?

00:52:19.000 Well, I think you probably can suspect why they push it.

00:52:22.000 They push it because it is a show of dominance, it's to say this actually is a national flag for all of us, this is our ideology.

00:52:31.000 You must embrace this.

00:52:32.000 You cannot oppose this.

00:52:34.000 You will get a far harsher penalty for damaging a pride flag, defacing a pride flag, than you ever will for the American flag. 0.68

00:52:43.000 And I think that says a lot about the ideology they seek to impose on us.

00:52:49.000 Before he ever stepped onto a debate stage or behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important.

00:52:54.000 If you want to lead, you have to learn first.

00:52:57.000 Charlie believed that ideas shape character, conviction, and give you courage.

00:53:01.000 That's why he spent Years studying the classics, the American founding, and the Bible through Hillsdale College's free online courses.

00:53:07.000 These are real college courses taught by actual Hillsdale professors.

00:53:11.000 One of those courses is Great Books 101, Ancient to Medieval, where you'll study foundational authors like Homer, Augustine, Dante, and Chaucer, writers who shaped Western civilization and still speak to the deepest questions about human nature, virtue, courage, family, and self government.

00:53:28.000 The course includes Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, the epic stories of Achilles and Odysseus that have influenced the West.

00:53:34.000 For thousands of years.

00:53:36.000 And this summer, Hillsdale College is releasing a brand new course dedicated entirely to Homer's Odyssey.

00:53:42.000 Great Books 101 is the perfect way to prepare before the full Odyssey course launches in July.

00:53:47.000 Charlie understood that learning isn't just about gaining knowledge, it's about forming the mind and character needed to face the challenges of life with wisdom and courage.

00:53:55.000 You can enroll today completely free, 100% free, just by visiting charlie4hillsdale.com.

00:54:03.000 That's charlie4hillsdale.com to start learning today.

00:54:07.000 Charlie for Hillsdale.com.

00:54:09.000 Learn deeply, think clearly, lead boldly, carry it forward with Hillsdale College.

00:54:16.000 We got one from Eva just a few minutes ago.

00:54:19.000 I started following Charlie in the year or two leading up to the 24 election.

00:54:23.000 I think I first came across him from TikTok videos.

00:54:27.000 Last year, I took my younger sister to the Student Action Summit.

00:54:29.000 I'm 31 and she's 23.

00:54:31.000 Neither of us were ready to post anything publicly after the summit, but after Charlie's death, we both made posts honoring him, and it was shocking to see how many family members.

00:54:40.000 Sorority sisters and former co workers unfriended and unfollowed us.

00:54:46.000 But at the same time, we got a lot of private messages of support from surprising people.

00:54:51.000 My sister, after the Student Action Summit and Charlie's assassination, got involved on her campus in Florida, and she also went to Amfest with her friends.

00:55:00.000 I'm so glad she has an organization like this to be a part of and meet other like minded people.

00:55:06.000 By the way, I love all the From the Archives episodes, and I love that Thought Crime still continues.

00:55:12.000 Well, both of those things will continue.

00:55:14.000 Thank you, Eva, for that.

00:55:15.000 We'll try to get to a few more of these as we go, but really overwhelmed by the response here.

00:55:19.000 Alex, before the break, we got a question from Anthony.

00:55:22.000 Why does the left love to.

00:55:25.000 Really, impose the pride flag as our second national flag, really our only national flag, you might say.

00:55:32.000 What's the obsession with it?

00:55:34.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:55:35.000 I'm thinking about this in the context of the joke that I opened with that we're going to have the gestating humans or the non gestating parents, whatever it is. 0.98

00:55:46.000 All of this is about their culture of death. 0.99

00:55:48.000 They don't want to celebrate life.

00:55:49.000 We have a declining birth rate, we have declining marriage. 0.98

00:55:53.000 Younger people are not even trying to find their significant other and get married and to procreate.

00:55:58.000 And part of it is because there's no glorification, there's no romanticization about the concept of having a family and having children.

00:56:05.000 In fact, it's looked down upon because we know that we're supposed to either be spending our whole 20s scrolling reels or we're supposed to be working for the corporation, serving the corporation, or both.

00:56:16.000 We're not supposed to be working on family formation, our spiritual, our immortal soul.

00:56:21.000 And that's part of what the left is about because they feel like those people are more controllable if they are bending the knee, genuflecting to the pride flag versus thinking about.

00:56:32.000 A higher power, thinking about God, thinking about country. 0.60

00:56:35.000 All that type of stuff hurts their political power and the pride plague and demanding adherence to it, I really think grows it. 0.70

00:56:42.000 And that's why they insist upon it because there's a power to it that they exert on us by putting that in our face every day.

00:56:49.000 Yeah, there's something, I can't remember.

00:56:51.000 There's an essay by an anti communist writer who I wish I remembered it off the top of my head.

00:56:56.000 Charlie was better at this sort of thing, but he said a big point of communist propaganda was to humiliate someone with how. 0.57

00:57:03.000 Insane it was, or how ridiculous it was.

00:57:05.000 And I think of that every time they update the Pride flag. 0.61

00:57:07.000 It wasn't enough to have a rainbow. 0.94

00:57:09.000 It's that every year there's a new group in the flag and it looks more garish and ridiculous. 0.95

00:57:14.000 And it's such a perfect encapsulation of the left's neuroses, their psychoses, and the way they have to foist them on everyone. 0.90

00:57:21.000 Oh, now there's a purple circle in the flag.

00:57:24.000 That represents what is the purple circle?

00:57:26.000 And did they put the Ukraine colors in for a while with the Pride flag?

00:57:29.000 I saw that once.

00:57:30.000 It was Pride Dublin.

00:57:32.000 Pride Dublin in Ireland added the Ukraine colors to the Pride. 0.65

00:57:35.000 Flag it and it looked like the Death Star's laser, it kind of was all pointed towards something.

00:57:40.000 It looked really bizarre, but really remarkable.

00:57:43.000 But it really gets at how the left thinks.

00:57:45.000 We have a write in question.

00:57:47.000 I think you want to take the lead on this, Alex.

00:57:49.000 Robin asks, Why do you think Spencer Pratt hit a nerve with so many communities so far outside of California?

00:57:56.000 Why has he become this national icon for what he's doing?

00:58:00.000 Actually, I think I can tee that up since I'm not in California.

00:58:04.000 I think we care so much.

00:58:07.000 As much as we can say, oh, forget the big cities, abandon the big cities, all of us have a big cultural tether.

00:58:13.000 Almost everyone's been to New York.

00:58:15.000 Most of us have been to California or LA.

00:58:18.000 And all of our movies and shows, so many of them are set there.

00:58:21.000 All of us have at least some understanding of these places.

00:58:25.000 And it wounds us to see them become so decayed and so decrepit.

00:58:29.000 And it really inspires us to see someone stand up for those cities, even if we don't live in them ourselves.

00:58:34.000 What do you think, Alex?

00:58:35.000 Yeah, I think this is a really complex answer.

00:58:38.000 And it's just been fascinating to watch this.

00:58:40.000 Campaign, and I've got a lot to say about it.

00:58:42.000 The one thing that's really, I think, important is that a lot of people in our hearts understand that we want California to be great, the symbol of going west, the beauty of it, the vacation destinations, the fact that so much of our culture comes from it, which up until recently, you know, Hollywood was something that exported American culture around the world.

00:59:00.000 Now we just think of it as a bunch of woke freaks running around trying to trans the kids, but it wasn't always like that.

00:59:05.000 And in Silicon Valley, like it or not, it is sort of the heartbeat of innovation around the planet.

00:59:10.000 We want these things to be great places.

00:59:12.000 Think about how.

00:59:14.000 Breitbart started in LA.

00:59:15.000 Daily Wire started in LA.

00:59:16.000 Prager U started in LA.

00:59:18.000 Think about so many of your favorite thinkers.

00:59:20.000 They may have come from California, LA in particular.

00:59:24.000 And I think a lot of us would like to see it be great again.

00:59:27.000 And what Spencer Pratt is saying is not that hard.

00:59:30.000 Let's just be competent.

00:59:31.000 Clean the poop off the street. 0.93

00:59:32.000 Get the needles out of people's arms. 0.99

00:59:34.000 Round up the drug dealers, the killers, and the junkies. 1.00

00:59:37.000 Let's get ICE in there and get all the illegal aliens back south of the border. 1.00

00:59:41.000 If we do that, then we can be great. 0.77

00:59:43.000 It's not that hard.

00:59:43.000 We just have a leadership class that's unwilling to do that.

00:59:47.000 And he does it with these ads, Blake, that are just revolutionary.

00:59:50.000 They're hilarious.

00:59:51.000 They're brilliant.

00:59:52.000 They're beautiful.

00:59:53.000 And he makes it seem so easy.

00:59:55.000 Democracy seems easy with a guy like Spencer Pratt.

00:59:58.000 And the last thing I'll say on this I know I've been ranting his message is discipline beyond belief.

01:00:03.000 It's like he's been a politician for 20 years.

01:00:05.000 You cannot get him to stop talking about the core issues that he wants to be on.

01:00:09.000 He wants to talk about the crackheads and the homeless and the poop in the street.

01:00:12.000 And that's it.

01:00:13.000 And that's how you be a politician.

01:00:15.000 So much.

01:00:16.000 It's so correct.

01:00:16.000 There's a part in Charlie's second to last book, Right Wing Revolution.

01:00:20.000 Has a part where he talks about if you live in a blue city, a really Democrat city, that doesn't mean you're off the hook for getting involved because you can make the difference in is your city run by a sane Democrat instead of a maximally insane Democrat or a sane moderate, someone who will focus on those big issues.

01:00:37.000 And I think Spencer Pratt's been wise about that.

01:00:40.000 He knows it's Los Angeles. 0.93

01:00:41.000 He's not going to run on I love Christianity and I love, you know, I'm pro life and anti trans.

01:00:47.000 Those aren't issues that you're going to campaign on in LA and you're not going to change anyone anything in LA on those issues. 0.99

01:00:53.000 But you can say, Wait, we don't need to live in crap. 0.95

01:00:56.000 We don't need to live in a giant homeless encampment. 0.97

01:00:59.000 Those things are fixable, even if you disagree with me on any other issue.

01:01:02.000 You don't need to run a maximal MAGA campaign in a city that we know is not a MAGA city overall.

01:01:09.000 And I think that really inspires people.

01:01:12.000 And we also think back on Rudy Giuliani, he saved New York in the 90s, that New York was in a more dire state than LA is today, you might say.

01:01:20.000 And it actually was turned around with competent governance that focused on those raw quality of life issues.

01:01:26.000 And that's More and more become our key conservative, Republican, independent, even advantage over the left is we can deliver on making your life livable.

01:01:40.000 The person also asked if we think he can win.

01:01:42.000 Well, we'll see if he can clear the month long counting of ballots in California.

01:01:46.000 But if he gets through, I do think he has a potential to win the full election.

01:01:51.000 I want to get to another question to make sure we get through all of these.

01:01:54.000 Elizabeth, unmute yourself and what's your question?

01:01:57.000 Yes.

01:01:58.000 Hi.

01:01:58.000 Thank you so much for taking my call.

01:02:01.000 So I think this year I've been a conservative forever, and I've never seen so much progress being made in our primaries with getting out Cassidy and getting out Cornyn. 0.53

01:02:14.000 And I kind of had a bit of a flashback to when Richard Murdoch had won his primary against the Rhino incumbent Indiana. 0.95

01:02:25.000 And like they came up with some ridiculous scandal of a dumb quote.

01:02:30.000 And he actually ended up losing to a Democrat in Indiana. 0.98

01:02:34.000 And I'm just thinking like, I don't put anything past these people to sabotage. 1.00

01:02:40.000 Like they would rather have a deranged heretic vegan representing Texas than let Paxton win. 0.91

01:02:48.000 And then they're going to say, oh, see, MAGA candidates can't win in the general. 0.98

01:02:53.000 And they're going to try and destroy the MAGA movement that way.

01:02:57.000 I think it's really important that we get Michael Whatley to win in North Carolina, or Tim Tills is going to go, see, you should have stuck with me.

01:03:05.000 You called me a rhino.

01:03:06.000 At least I can win.

01:03:07.000 So I don't want to be a doomer.

01:03:09.000 I want to fight because I think if we can get these MAGA people across the line, Especially in Georgia.

01:03:16.000 I think we really have a good chance of flipping Georgia. 0.89

01:03:19.000 I think we can flip Michigan because their candidate in there is a maniac. 0.56

01:03:24.000 How do we keep the GOP and the Rhinos and the establishment from sabotaging all of these candidates? 0.96

01:03:31.000 I think this would give us so much momentum to take out Thune, Langford, and Murkowski in 2028 if we do everything right.

01:03:39.000 A great question, Elizabeth.

01:03:40.000 And that's where we look to Charlie's example.

01:03:42.000 Well, how do we stop them?

01:03:43.000 The first step is what are we ourselves doing?

01:03:46.000 Inspired by Charlie, I've actually become a precinct.

01:03:48.000 I've signed up to be a precinct committee man here in Arizona.

01:03:50.000 I've been doing some door knocking in the last few weeks.

01:03:54.000 And Turning Point in general, Turning Point Action has been building out that apparatus of ballot chasing, chase the vote, finding, making those connections with low engagement voters and making them more consistent.

01:04:07.000 That's one of the ways we do this we do the work to win elections so that it's harder to sabotage us.

01:04:14.000 And let's be frank, you're correct.

01:04:16.000 In 2012, they did successfully pull off that sabotage.

01:04:19.000 They did successfully sabotage Cary Lake.

01:04:21.000 Sometimes they're able to do it.

01:04:22.000 But the long run trend is still a positive one.

01:04:25.000 If you compare the Senate of today and the House of today with the ones we had in 2017, however many frustrations we have, they are better on the issues.

01:04:34.000 They are better on getting things done than they were then.

01:04:36.000 That's one of the reasons we've been able to secure the border this time around when it was such a pain last time.

01:04:43.000 The arc of the universe bends towards being more MAGA, being more successful, being more based, being a better conservative movement, as long as we are holding these politicians accountable.

01:04:52.000 Even if they're trying to sabotage us the whole way.

01:04:55.000 Alex, any thoughts?

01:04:56.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:04:57.000 I think it's a great summary.

01:04:58.000 And I'll just say that I just don't think that the establishment in the Republican Party has any power at all.

01:05:03.000 It's very, very little.

01:05:04.000 They're very small pockets.

01:05:06.000 They can be spoilers in the Senate.

01:05:08.000 But put your head down and just nominate MAGA candidates.

01:05:11.000 We cannot have wishy washy Republicans.

01:05:13.000 That's part of how we got in this mess.

01:05:15.000 It's part of the rise of Charlie, part of the rise of Breitbart.

01:05:17.000 All of this is about fighting back against the GOP establishment.

01:05:21.000 So never be deterred and never feel like you got to compromise on that front.

01:05:25.000 I want to get a few more.

01:05:25.000 Exactly.

01:05:26.000 How do we get that message across the accelerationists?

01:05:29.000 Sorry, what was that again?

01:05:31.000 How do we get that message through to the accelerationists and the doomers?

01:05:35.000 Well, we're doing our best on that one because some people, there really is a will to doom.

01:05:39.000 They love dooming.

01:05:40.000 It's emotionally satisfying in a way.

01:05:42.000 It's the same reason people like watching sad movies or horror movies.

01:05:45.000 There's this rush you get from being really angry and being really upset.

01:05:49.000 And it's a, honestly, it's a, I have to be frank, it's kind of a moral flaw to let that consume too much of your thinking.

01:05:57.000 Charlie was so good about.

01:05:58.000 You have to remain balanced.

01:05:59.000 You have to focus on things.

01:06:00.000 And it's always incorrect to say it will be better if we lose and things are a catastrophe and the left gets what they want.

01:06:08.000 People have had that same line.

01:06:09.000 They had that line in Soviet Russia right before the Bolsheviks killed millions of people. 0.64

01:06:13.000 They had that line in Nazi Germany oh, let Hitler fail.

01:06:17.000 No, it is not ever good to abandon our principles and abandon the fight and intentionally lose.

01:06:22.000 We have to always be ironclad on that message.

01:06:26.000 And Alex, I think you'd agree.

01:06:27.000 We have 10 seconds here.

01:06:29.000 Yeah, I think that's right on.

01:06:31.000 The Doomers, look, I don't try to give them a lot of extra attention.

01:06:34.000 They get a ton, but I would say that we're learning that a lot of their numbers are inflated online.

01:06:38.000 So, don't feel like they're that powerful.

01:06:40.000 It feels like the optimists are more powerful.

01:06:42.000 True enough.

01:06:43.000 Optimism wins.

01:06:45.000 I want to get a few more of these emails.

01:06:46.000 We got absolutely overwhelmed with them.

01:06:48.000 So, if I don't get to yours, I apologize, but thank you for sending it in.

01:06:52.000 We love reading these.

01:06:53.000 Barb says, I am a 78 year young lady and I happened to see Charlie.

01:06:58.000 I immediately knew he spoke the truth and loved God.

01:07:01.000 I miss him terribly.

01:07:03.000 Thank you, Barb.

01:07:04.000 We have Russell.

01:07:06.000 I first emailed Charlie about four or five years ago because I thought I had a couple of really good ideas for the Trump campaign and for getting messages across.

01:07:15.000 I gained respect watching Charlie over the next few years.

01:07:18.000 It's so very sad that someone felt they needed to take his life.

01:07:21.000 I have always respected all of the people of Turning Point USA.

01:07:25.000 God bless you and take good care.

01:07:28.000 And he actually says he's sad that Charlie didn't respond to his email with ideas.

01:07:31.000 I will say he did read it.

01:07:33.000 I've actually, Charlie always said he read all the emails.

01:07:36.000 And I've gone back and I've looked at his wave of emails from 2025, 2024, and literally every single one is read.

01:07:44.000 There was a, An unread list of zero.

01:07:46.000 I don't have that in my own personal inbox, I can assure you.

01:07:49.000 And we have Lauren, super stoked you may read this.

01:07:52.000 I love everyone at Turning Point USA.

01:07:55.000 I'm from Chicago and I moved there.

01:07:56.000 I first heard of Charlie back when he was with a certain woman who she has an unkind word for.

01:08:02.000 I went back to college in 2017 and I believe I was having, sorry, I was a Trump supporter and was having a hard time.

01:08:11.000 So I just did my work and left.

01:08:13.000 But I would say when the show came on Rav in 2020, that's when I became an everyday watcher.

01:08:18.000 My husband and I still watch every day.

01:08:20.000 Thank you, Lauren.

01:08:21.000 Thank you for that.

01:08:23.000 All right, we want to get to a couple more questions here.

01:08:26.000 Tim, unmute yourself and what's your question?

01:08:29.000 Hey, Blake and Alex.

01:08:30.000 Good to see you guys.

01:08:31.000 Last Thursday, I saw some posts on social media about Josh Hawley presiding over a pro forma session in the Senate where they kind of gavel in and then gavel out a session.

01:08:42.000 But I believe that works to effectively keep the Senate in air quotes in session and it keeps Trump from being able to make recess appointments.

01:08:52.000 Which, yeah, people were calling Josh Hawley out on that because Democrats never do this kind of stuff to their presidents.

01:08:58.000 And it's just infuriating when Republicans do it to our own guys.

01:09:04.000 Is there a reason, a valid explanation for why Hawley did this?

01:09:08.000 Or I'm kind of at a loss.

01:09:10.000 I thought he was a good guy.

01:09:11.000 I think he is, but super disappointed in this move.

01:09:14.000 So I want to get your thoughts on that.

01:09:15.000 So I haven't closely followed this particular instance, but you are correct.

01:09:18.000 That's a reason the Senate does that.

01:09:20.000 They kind of have these fake sessions permanently in.

01:09:22.000 And one of the reasons to do it is you block.

01:09:24.000 The president from making recess appointments that can last for a while.

01:09:28.000 And it's especially frustrating here because the Senate, okay, if you guys want to have more weight with the Trump administration, one of the things you can do is vote on his nominees.

01:09:38.000 I was just looking the other day.

01:09:39.000 The president has sent nominees for ambassadorships to major countries like Australia, South Korea.

01:09:45.000 Those were made months ago.

01:09:46.000 They haven't been voted on.

01:09:47.000 There are other positions he's nominated people for.

01:09:50.000 They're just not getting voted on.

01:09:52.000 If the Senate was being on the ball where every time someone's nominated, They have that hearing right away, get it done in a few weeks, get them voted on up or down.

01:10:01.000 I'd be more tolerant of them also being annoying, saying, Oh, we don't want you making these recess appointments.

01:10:05.000 We want to make full appointments.

01:10:07.000 But when they're not being on the ball on nominees or on the Save Act or anything else, and they're also being territorial, I find that really aggravating and upsetting.

01:10:17.000 And if Josh Hawley doesn't have a better explanation for why he's doing that, I do find that disappointing because we have considered him a friend and ally.

01:10:25.000 But I don't know further details, so I don't want to.

01:10:27.000 Condemn him or rush to judgment about that.

01:10:30.000 Alex, do you have any thoughts?

01:10:31.000 Yeah, I have the same thought.

01:10:32.000 Is that there's got to be an explanation for it because, as far as I can tell, the caller's correct that he did gavel in this pro forma session that does prevent recess appointments.

01:10:41.000 And I didn't see him respond.

01:10:43.000 I saw some of the posts online about it and I didn't see any response to it.

01:10:46.000 So, yeah, please reach out to the show if you guys have an explanation because I don't get it.

01:10:51.000 And I'm a big fan of Josh Hawley.

01:10:54.000 He is a bit of an iconoclast politically.

01:10:55.000 I don't always agree with everything he says, but he's a super sharp and high integrity person.

01:10:59.000 So, I don't get it.

01:11:01.000 I really don't.

01:11:02.000 Yeah, very frustrating.

01:11:04.000 I'll try to read more about that, though, to see if there is an explanation for it.

01:11:08.000 We have a writing question from Kathy.

01:11:10.000 Please help.

01:11:11.000 Try as I might, I can't understand why the Strait of Hormuz put us into a war and why the end of the war is contingent on that.

01:11:19.000 Do we trust that if it's open, the war will end?

01:11:24.000 I love questions like that. 0.86

01:11:25.000 We need to have Daisy back for another one of those No Stupid Questions thing because it really is. 0.96

01:11:30.000 It's Strait of Hormuz, it's this narrow. 0.96

01:11:33.000 Body of water.

01:11:34.000 You've heard about the Gulf, the Gulf War, the Persian Gulf.

01:11:37.000 It's that inlet of water in the Middle East.

01:11:39.000 And all those countries that have a ton of oil, the oil they have is mostly right below that Gulf, either on the land or in the water.

01:11:47.000 So that's Kuwait, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia.

01:11:51.000 It's all there.

01:11:53.000 And they pump out the oil, they pump out the gas.

01:11:55.000 And the easiest way to ship it is you put it on a boat and it goes through the Strait of Hormuz. 0.76

01:11:59.000 The problem with it is one half of the Strait of Hormuz is Iran. 0.97

01:12:03.000 And they have rockets, they have missiles, they have boats. 1.00

01:12:07.000 Fewer than they used to because we've been actively taking those out.

01:12:11.000 But they threaten oh, if ships are trying to go through this strait while we're in conflict with the United States, we're going to fire on them.

01:12:19.000 And it's not fully clear if they have the capacity to sink a lot of those ships or damage them.

01:12:25.000 But there's enough of a threat that, well, if you're on one of those boats, do you want to try running it?

01:12:29.000 And so they've tried to use this strait as their weapon in this war.

01:12:34.000 They're thinking the United States is going to say uncle because oil prices get too high.

01:12:38.000 Before we crumble because our economy is a mess, because all of our weapons have been blown up, because our government is brutally unpopular, we think that the Trump administration is going to back out.

01:12:49.000 That's why the Strait is so important and why you do have to reopen it as part of some deal.

01:12:54.000 Ultimately, President Trump wants commerce to be happening, he wants oil to be flowing through the Strait, he wants the world to be functioning again, and he's not going to let whatever conclusion he reaches, he's not going to allow the government in Iran to just hold the entire world hostage.

01:13:10.000 Alex, any thoughts on that? 0.74

01:13:12.000 Yeah, quickly, this is their one move.

01:13:14.000 I mean, we've decimated their Navy and their Air Force.

01:13:16.000 So, their one move is to leverage the Strait because they can do it with really unsophisticated weaponry, with just some basic drones, anti ship missiles, mines.

01:13:24.000 And then they can cause a lot of problems.

01:13:26.000 I think 20% of the world's oil flows through that Strait.

01:13:29.000 And any sort of disruption in the oil market is going to have gas prices going up in America. 0.82

01:13:34.000 It's going to create all these terrible news cycles you see in America where they act like Trump's a horrible person, a horrible leader.

01:13:40.000 And that puts a lot of pressure on Trump to wrap up the war. 0.64

01:13:42.000 It's Iran's best move they could make, and they made it, and it's having an impact. 0.97

01:13:46.000 We have one minute. 0.99

01:13:47.000 I want to get a couple more of these emails.

01:13:49.000 Thank you for that question.

01:13:50.000 It's always fun, a question where I get to nerd out a little bit.

01:13:53.000 But I want to close with a few more emails about how people got to know Charlie.

01:13:56.000 14 years of turning point today.

01:13:58.000 Alexis says I've been following Charlie since around 2018 when I was 15.

01:14:03.000 In a lot of ways, I grew up listening to Charlie.

01:14:06.000 I was blessed to listen to his words of wisdom for years.

01:14:08.000 And through his show and the work of TPUSA, I learned so much about faith, American history, citizenship, and what makes America such a great country.

01:14:17.000 Congratulations on 14 years.

01:14:19.000 Thank you for continuing the mission.

01:14:21.000 Go Max.

01:14:22.000 Thank you so much, Alexis.

01:14:23.000 And then Ali says Charlie Kirk walked like he talked.

01:14:27.000 He did the hard things so we didn't have to.

01:14:30.000 I'm going to correct that, Ali.

01:14:32.000 He did the hard things so he could show us how to do them because now we carry on his mission.

01:14:38.000 Here's to another 14 years and more of Turning Point.

01:14:41.000 Thank you for joining us, Alex.

01:14:42.000 Thanks to everyone who sent in emails.

01:14:44.000 We'll see you on Monday and tune in to watch the Women's Leadership Summit.

01:14:52.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 05, 2026

14 Years of TPUSA + Graham Platner Exposed (Again) + AMA 269

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