The Charlie Kirk Show - March 17, 2022


'15 Days to Slow the Spread' — 730 Days Later


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Two years ago, the United States was on lock down in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S. schools. What did we learn from the lockdowns? And what can we do to prevent them from happening again?

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 It is year two.
00:00:03.000 What is it?
00:00:03.000 Day 730 or something?
00:00:06.000 Or 720 or 730 of 15 days to slow the spread.
00:00:10.000 Day 730 of 15 days to slow the spread.
00:00:13.000 We talk about, do we learn anything from our COVID nonsense?
00:00:17.000 And also, we have Thomas Massey talk about Ukraine, Russia, mask mandates, and more.
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00:01:49.000 Hello, everybody.
00:01:50.000 It is two years of 15 days to slow the spread.
00:01:54.000 Where were you two years ago?
00:01:55.000 I remember exactly where I was.
00:01:56.000 I was in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:57.000 We didn't really know what we were dealing with at the time.
00:02:00.000 I remember exactly the office I was sitting in here in Phoenix, and I remember the Turning Point USA team that was in, and we were all really confused.
00:02:08.000 Said, wait, they're going to shut down the country?
00:02:09.000 What does that mean?
00:02:10.000 Like, are they going to have martial law?
00:02:11.000 Are they going to prohibit people from going from one block to the other?
00:02:18.000 What does locking down mean?
00:02:20.000 And we kind of all learned kind of what a lockdown was pretty quickly: 15 days to slow the spread, and then it became 30 days to slow the spread.
00:02:31.000 And it's been two years of lockdowns now.
00:02:34.000 What's so amazing, though, is it's not the virus that did this.
00:02:38.000 It was our reaction to the virus.
00:02:40.000 So, two years later, what do we know now that we were told then?
00:02:45.000 And what can that do to actually help us look at the news that's happening today?
00:02:49.000 Well, we were told then that people could asymptomatically spread the virus.
00:02:54.000 We were told that this came from a bat in the Himalayan mountains.
00:02:58.000 We were told that there were no treatments largely available.
00:03:01.000 All you had to do was stay at home.
00:03:02.000 And if you got the virus, get a ventilator.
00:03:05.000 We were told that you must first not wear masks, then wear cloth masks.
00:03:10.000 We were told that treatments such as hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin and vitamin D levels and ivermectin, none of those things could possibly help you.
00:03:22.000 We were told that the virus could be spread on a surface and could stay there for upwards of a week or two weeks.
00:03:28.000 So we had to wear gloves and we had to scrub down all the surfaces.
00:03:33.000 We were told that children could be super spreaders of the virus.
00:03:38.000 So we have to lock down schools.
00:03:40.000 Now, we were pretty wise to this.
00:03:42.000 You go back all the way in the archives two years ago.
00:03:47.000 And we called BS on this pretty early.
00:03:50.000 We were against the lockdowns from the very beginning.
00:03:52.000 We were against the mandates.
00:03:55.000 We are on a very alone contrarian island, but it was actually good for our program, bad for the country, because we were one of the few programs that was talking about ending the lockdowns and ending the mandates.
00:04:05.000 And then, of course, Floyd Palooza happened after that in June when we decided to commit civilizational arson and burn down everything because systemic racism, I guess.
00:04:19.000 So, two years after the lockdowns, today, it's two years.
00:04:23.000 Are we richer?
00:04:24.000 Are we stronger?
00:04:25.000 Are we a better people?
00:04:26.000 Are we more unified?
00:04:28.000 No. 0.99
00:04:30.000 We are sicker.
00:04:31.000 We're more distracted.
00:04:32.000 We're more medicated.
00:04:33.000 We're more depressed.
00:04:35.000 We are less focused.
00:04:36.000 We're less entrepreneurial.
00:04:39.000 We are almost going through a midlife crisis, a middle-age syndrome, if you will, as a nation.
00:04:51.000 Don't really know where we came from.
00:04:53.000 Don't know where we're going.
00:04:55.000 The lockdowns will go down as one of the great mistakes in human history.
00:04:59.000 Had zero epidemiological benefit or advantage, according to a Johns Hopkins study.
00:05:04.000 Zero.
00:05:05.000 Yet we continued to do it.
00:05:07.000 We didn't learn anything from it.
00:05:08.000 Dissonant voices were kicked off of social media.
00:05:11.000 Doctors that dared go against the status quo were locked up and locked down.
00:05:17.000 And what did we learn from that?
00:05:20.000 We learned a lot.
00:05:21.000 But one of the things that we did learn that I think should be a takeaway, if we're serious about it, is mass hysteria usually is not rooted in truth.
00:05:39.000 Mass hysteria usually results in really bad decision making.
00:05:47.000 CNBC.com says a year later, Trump's 15 Days Slow the Spread campaign shows how little we knew about COVID.
00:05:52.000 No, we knew about this.
00:05:53.000 We were called conspiracy theorists, anti-science, and killers.
00:06:02.000 CNBC says that we didn't know how the virus spread.
00:06:05.000 We were just silenced.
00:06:05.000 Yes, we did.
00:06:06.000 It said that we didn't know what treatments could be used.
00:06:08.000 We were just silenced.
00:06:08.000 Yes, we did.
00:06:11.000 The two largest failings of the guidance were that if we didn't acknowledge that people without symptoms could spread the virus and didn't say anything about wearing masks, there was so much we didn't know about the disease at the time.
00:06:21.000 Dr. Leanna Wen said, yeah, she's a real gem. 0.98
00:06:25.000 There were two key elements in our scientific knowledge that we didn't fully understand.
00:06:29.000 One was the degree of asymptomatic transmission, which is nothing.
00:06:32.000 And two was the aerosols, how it's not just transmitted through people sneezing and coughing.
00:06:39.000 We were played for this civilizational game for two years.
00:06:44.000 We went on Steve Hilton's program and we said the cure cannot be worse than the disease.
00:06:48.000 And I can tell you, I don't rarely get nervous when I go on television, but I was nervous because that was a really contrarian take at the time.
00:06:56.000 Do you think it's hard right now to oppose military intervention in Ukraine?
00:07:02.000 This is a cakewalk compared to saying that we need to reopen the country against an invisible killer, a pathogen, and there might be a pill that could help you with it, and antiviral treatments might be able to help you navigate.
00:07:15.000 I mean, if you could survive being a lockdown critic, a vaccine skeptic, a COVID vaccine skeptic, I should say, or a mask skeptic and a anti-lockdown crusader, Ukraine is like, whatever.
00:07:34.000 And then you go from that into Floyd-Palooza, where everybody comes after you, and you double and triple down because you say America is actually not systemically racist. 0.89
00:07:43.000 And there's a black on black crime in America problem in America. 0.62
00:07:47.000 There's a fatherlessness problem in America. 0.64
00:07:49.000 In fact, we have an under-policing problem in America.
00:07:52.000 No one wants to hear that.
00:07:54.000 So I personally learned my takeaway is I'm not going to follow for the mass hysteria.
00:07:59.000 That the people that are wrong about everything and that are corrupt to the core and that I believe do not have the best interests of the country, that whenever they start to all start to say the same thing at the same time on all the news networks, yeah, I'm going to be really skeptical about something actually.
00:08:13.000 I'm going to take a step back.
00:08:15.000 When they get super enthusiastic about a certain cause, it usually isn't in the best interest of the country.
00:08:21.000 It's not like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Adam Kinsley, or Lynn Cheney and Joe Biden and Jen Psaki and all them are saying, you know what?
00:08:29.000 We need border security.
00:08:30.000 We need border security.
00:08:31.000 They wouldn't say such a thing because it actually would benefit the country.
00:08:37.000 Two years ago, that famous speech was made.
00:08:43.000 Some people are now just wanting to go from one social cause to the other.
00:08:48.000 And the Operation Mockingbird media, they know exactly how to push the buttons of the American people.
00:08:57.000 They know how to motivate them.
00:08:59.000 You see, if you consume news and information actually the way that they design it through CNN or through the New York Times, you are clay for molding.
00:09:10.000 They want to mold you into a state of paranoia, a state of hyperaction.
00:09:16.000 They don't want you to be thankful.
00:09:17.000 They don't want you to be happy.
00:09:18.000 They don't want you to be prosperous or flourishing.
00:09:21.000 It's one of the reasons why I don't watch any of these networks.
00:09:23.000 I get my news through reading certain trusted sources, reading Timeless and Ancient Wisdom, thinking and praying and meditating, and then doing my program.
00:09:33.000 I watch Tucker Carlson, listen to a couple podcasts.
00:09:36.000 That's all I watch.
00:09:36.000 That's it.
00:09:39.000 And so what is the lesson we actually learned?
00:09:42.000 Where is the takeaway?
00:09:46.000 Do we have a commission report where we were able to say, wow, look at all the things we got wrong when we had this mass hysteria event that resulted in 800,000 people dead?
00:10:01.000 Are we now more or less likely to try to make similar mistakes now? 0.58
00:10:08.000 The BLM square, the virtue signaling square, the you must get vaccinated. 0.53
00:10:14.000 I'm going to change my selfie profile picture to wear a mask, all stands, sounds very similar to the hyper-aggressive posture that is now being gone to. 0.97
00:10:24.000 We need to go get militarily involved in Ukraine.
00:10:28.000 It seems very similar, doesn't it? 0.89
00:10:29.000 It's all at this kind of like 10 out of 10 decibel level.
00:10:35.000 No nuance.
00:10:36.000 Do you notice that's kind of a characteristic of the new American dialogue or discourse?
00:10:40.000 There can be no introduction of facts that are against the regime.
00:10:44.000 Zero.
00:10:44.000 Like, hey, I got a question.
00:10:46.000 Hello.
00:10:48.000 When was the last time you mentioned the Azov Battalion? 0.55
00:10:50.000 Just asking for a friend.
00:10:52.000 And so I'm just, here's a question. 0.64
00:10:54.000 Azov Battalion is like 3,000 Nazis, 4,000 legitimate Nazis in Ukraine.
00:10:59.000 Why is Congress approving money that's going to go fund Nazis? 0.98
00:11:04.000 That's a legitimate thing. 0.99
00:11:05.000 Are we not allowed to say that? 1.00
00:11:07.000 No, sit down and shut up. 1.00
00:11:08.000 Get the vaccine. 1.00
00:11:09.000 Put the mask on. 0.99
00:11:11.000 Here's the BLM flag. 0.58
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00:12:15.000 Cut 64, two years ago today, Mike Pence announcing 15 days to slow the spread.
00:12:21.000 Play Cut 64.
00:12:22.000 Nothing more important for the American people to do to slow the spread than to heed your state and local guidance in areas impacted by the coronavirus and for everyone else to put into practice the 15 days to slow the spread.
00:12:42.000 But it is, people ask me from time to time, what can I do?
00:12:48.000 And I say from my heart to every American, this is what you can do.
00:12:52.000 That was a mistake from the beginning.
00:12:54.000 We spoke out against it.
00:12:55.000 There was zero epidemiological reason or basis for it.
00:12:58.000 And what you saw was Anthony Fauci's hijacking of the American government.
00:13:02.000 We have right here the United States Constitution.
00:13:04.000 We have it somewhere.
00:13:05.000 The Constitution was supposed to prevent people like unelected bureaucrats like Anthony Fauci with unchecked power to be able to have unlimited authority to be able to lock down the American government.
00:13:16.000 Anthony Fauci, failing upwards his entire life two years ago today, pulled off a deep state miracle by him becoming the acting czar of the United States.
00:13:27.000 Sure, Donald Trump was still in charge of plenty of things, but basically, we delegated our power to the fourth branch of government in a way that created a damaging effect to our currency, to our borders, to our sovereignty, to our spiritual health, to our physical health, to our family health, only further encouraging congressional involvement to create $6 trillion out of thin air.
00:13:53.000 And the whole kind of moral thing, like the right thing to do is stay at home, there is zero epidemiological reason for that whatsoever.
00:13:59.000 We read from the New York Times article last week that showed that lockdowns, measures, and masks have zero impact.
00:14:04.000 In fact, blue states that did that are doing far worse than red states that have been completely and totally wide open.
00:14:12.000 You do not lock down and quarantine the healthy.
00:14:15.000 We knew that.
00:14:16.000 We pushed back against this from the very beginning.
00:14:18.000 And this is not an I told you so type thing.
00:14:20.000 It's not about that.
00:14:22.000 Instead, I'm saying, have we learned a lesson?
00:14:25.000 That's what I'm asking.
00:14:27.000 Are we going to be more or less likely to go into the next COVID they want us to get into?
00:14:32.000 Now, is that Ukraine?
00:14:34.000 I don't know.
00:14:35.000 Maybe it isn't.
00:14:35.000 Maybe it is.
00:14:36.000 Maybe they're completely different, or maybe they're exactly the same.
00:14:41.000 Cut 68.
00:14:42.000 Remember when CNN flipped out when Trump took his mask off after getting back to the White House?
00:14:48.000 Play Cut 68.
00:14:50.000 This is our first time.
00:14:50.000 Here it's going to come.
00:14:51.000 Here we go.
00:14:52.000 A very different message.
00:14:56.000 And you see him here.
00:14:57.000 He takes it off and he's getting ready for his pictures.
00:14:59.000 The flags flank him.
00:15:02.000 Right, Caitlin, this is what he did.
00:15:03.000 This is the moment.
00:15:04.000 This is what he produced it for.
00:15:05.000 He wants the image to be, I'm strong.
00:15:10.000 This virus is nothing.
00:15:12.000 His tweet today, feeling better than I did 20 years ago.
00:15:15.000 Don't be afraid of COVID.
00:15:16.000 Don't let it dominate your life.
00:15:18.000 There he is.
00:15:19.000 This is the image he wants.
00:15:22.000 What's wrong with that image?
00:15:25.000 That message should have been the message from the beginning.
00:15:27.000 Treatments, azithromycin, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, vitamin D levels, which we never talked about.
00:15:35.000 Fitness, not being fat, not overdrinking, getting proper sunlight, monoclonal antibodies, aspirin, all of these things, intravenous therapy, ozone therapy, all of these things have been proven to help with the treatment of COVID.
00:15:55.000 And yet, the media, they wanted hysteria.
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00:17:21.000 With us right now is Congressman Thomas Massey.
00:17:24.000 I've known him for years, and his courage to speak out on the Ukrainian conflict has really struck me.
00:17:31.000 And I want him to explain that to our listeners and to maybe give another side that the corporate media isn't telling us.
00:17:39.000 Congressman, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:17:42.000 Hey, thanks for having me on, Charlie.
00:17:43.000 I'd like to further memorialize this anniversary of 15 Days to Slow the Spread, if I may.
00:17:49.000 We are 102 weeks, $7 trillion, three jabs, two presidents, and a shredded constitution into slowing the spread as of today.
00:18:00.000 But I have good news for you, Charlie.
00:18:02.000 I attended the briefing from President Zelensky to members of Congress, and what I discovered is Zelensky ended COVID today.
00:18:11.000 We sat shoulder to shoulder, senators and representatives, in a crowded room, standing room only, no masks, no vaccine mandates, no testing, no social distancing, to listen to Zelensky today.
00:18:24.000 So I got to give him credit, he cured COVID.
00:18:28.000 It was the Zelensky vaccine, where all of a sudden all the measures just kind of went away.
00:18:33.000 So, Congressman, how should we think about the Ukrainian-Russian situation?
00:18:37.000 We're no fans of Vladimir Putin.
00:18:39.000 Obviously, it's evil what he's done to invade another country.
00:18:42.000 But what should the American response be?
00:18:44.000 It seems as if the drums of building a no-fly zone is almost overwhelming.
00:18:48.000 Why is that a bad idea?
00:18:51.000 Well, first of all, we shouldn't look at it as a custody battle between the European Union and a Soviet Union.
00:18:58.000 You know, if you're going to have geopolitical stability, probably Ukraine needs to be neutral and not be a satellite to either the Western countries or to Russia.
00:19:10.000 But that's up for them to decide, and we shouldn't be meddling in that.
00:19:14.000 Why is a no-fly zone bad?
00:19:16.000 It's a horrible idea.
00:19:18.000 People think, some people may think that a no-fly zone is like a gentleman's agreement between two countries.
00:19:24.000 I won't fly if you won't fly.
00:19:26.000 That is not what a no-fly zone means.
00:19:28.000 The no-fly zone that President Zelensky asked from Congress today would mean U.S. airmen or Army troops or Marines or Navy shooting down Russian planes. 0.68
00:19:42.000 And we should not be engaging another nuclear power in an air battle in Europe. 1.00
00:19:49.000 It's just, it's stupid. 1.00
00:19:50.000 It's beyond playing chicken with Vladimir Putin. 1.00
00:19:54.000 It's more like poking the bear.
00:19:57.000 And our job right now as responsible members of Congress should be, as your previous guest said, to de-escalate this situation.
00:20:05.000 This is not a global conflict, and we should try to keep it from becoming one.
00:20:09.000 So Congress just authorized $15 billion to go to Ukraine.
00:20:15.000 We don't really know where that money is going to go.
00:20:18.000 Is this a good idea?
00:20:19.000 Should the American government be involved in supplying arms to this murky conflict?
00:20:25.000 Yes, I looked at where that money's going.
00:20:27.000 Some of it's going to so-called humanitarian aid, but some of it also goes to NATO.
00:20:34.000 And my question that I asked yesterday is: when did we just accept the premise that conservatives in the United States should be subsidizing socialist governments in Europe?
00:20:45.000 We're subsidizing their military defense.
00:20:49.000 So, you know, I've got some colleagues here in Congress who say, well, we shouldn't be sending arms and money to Ukraine, but we should definitely send some more troops and some more arms over there to NATO.
00:21:00.000 And I'm like, wait, wait, wait.
00:21:02.000 That's a premise that nobody should accept, especially if you believe in free markets and individual liberty.
00:21:08.000 Why should we be subsidizing these governments that give handouts?
00:21:11.000 And frankly, they pay for abortions, public abortions in these countries.
00:21:16.000 Why are we sending them money to subsidize their defense? 0.97
00:21:20.000 And I'm talking about virtually every country in the European Union, not just NATO.
00:21:25.000 So you tweeted out, quote, one of the biggest con jobs ever pulled off, leftists and the military-industrial complex convincing conservatives to heavily subsidize the military defense of socialist countries, wake up Republicans, exactly what you just talked about.
00:21:38.000 But talk about the military-industrial complex.
00:21:40.000 Does it seem as if there is this kind of stumbling towards war?
00:21:46.000 I mean, this is a very serious thing.
00:21:48.000 What are your colleagues saying about this?
00:21:50.000 Because I would love, I've had open invitations many times to have these people on.
00:21:56.000 What does success look like at this point in Ukraine?
00:21:58.000 What is the off-ramp?
00:22:00.000 What is the way to peace?
00:22:01.000 Or are we now saying basically we're going to subsidize what is close to a border conflict civil war, a family dispute, for the foreseeable future?
00:22:12.000 Well, the military-industrial complex has lost some money here recently because the war in Afghanistan has been ended rather clumsily and negligently so by Joe Biden, but it was the right move to get troops out of there, not the way he did it.
00:22:28.000 But the military-industrial complex is going to need revenue to supplant that missing revenue.
00:22:33.000 And this is an opportunity for them.
00:22:36.000 Now, I don't think they want a global conflagration, but to have something simmering along for a long period of time would probably benefit them.
00:22:46.000 So you need to take the propaganda that you see with a grain of salt.
00:22:50.000 And by the way, that's what Zelensky was delivering today to members of Congress.
00:22:55.000 He addressed us with a small speech, and then he hit play on a video that was meant to play to the emotions of Congress.
00:23:03.000 And then he came back and reiterated his request for a no-fly zone and other measures of support from U.S. taxpayers.
00:23:12.000 So we just, you know, we've got to keep our boots off the ground in Ukraine, but we also have got to quit fantasizing that we could attack Russia or that even a NATO country could attack Russia, whether it's on the ground or in the air, and not have them retaliate and not draw the rest of the NATO countries into this conflict.
00:23:34.000 It just can't be done.
00:23:35.000 So stay out.
00:23:37.000 Don't fall prey to the propaganda and keep a level head.
00:23:42.000 That's my advice to my colleagues here.
00:23:45.000 Yeah, it seems as if you're in the vast minority, Congressman.
00:23:47.000 That's one of the reasons why we wanted to have you on this program, because, I mean, we have so many problems here at home.
00:23:53.000 We have domestic security issues on our southern border.
00:23:56.000 You know, in Kentucky, major fentanyl and drug overdose issues.
00:23:59.000 Our Constitution is basically becoming kind of an irrelevant relic at this point, which is our public health bureaucrats do whatever they want.
00:24:06.000 Can you help us kind of balance that?
00:24:08.000 Because some of our listeners are saying, look, we could do everything at once.
00:24:12.000 We should solve our own problems and also kind of, you know, go fight Russia. 0.67
00:24:16.000 Talk about how dangerous this is. 0.84
00:24:18.000 When we start to kind of stumble into these conflicts, then other really important domestic issues inevitably get put aside.
00:24:26.000 Well, yeah, this conflict now allows them to ignore virtually everything else that's going on.
00:24:31.000 My colleague Matt Rosendell was in that briefing from Zelensky.
00:24:35.000 And when it was over with, he leaned forward and he said, look, we lost like 100,000 people to overdoses last year, and much of that was due to fentanyl that's coming across the border.
00:24:46.000 Frankly, it's not possible for the media to concentrate or even look at more than one or two things at a time, and they're happy to ignore the other problems that we have.
00:24:56.000 Imagine this.
00:24:57.000 We're spending $15 billion in one fell swoop and one bill to protect Ukraine's border and the sovereignty of Ukraine, ostensibly.
00:25:07.000 And they couldn't even come up with $5 billion to fund the wall between us and Mexico when coming across that border is not just Mexicans, it's people from all over the country, some of whom are cartel members and terrorists. 0.69
00:25:23.000 So talk a little bit about this biolab situation.
00:25:26.000 Can you help us separate fact from fiction?
00:25:29.000 I asked because, I mean, you went to MIT, you have a background in engineering.
00:25:35.000 I think this is something that you have some sort of interest in.
00:25:37.000 You actually are better qualified to talk about than most.
00:25:41.000 Why were we involved in sending $200 million to Ukraine for these biolabs over the last 17 years?
00:25:46.000 They said it was to kind of like unwind the biolaboratories.
00:25:51.000 Based on what you're able to tell us that isn't classified, what's fact from fiction here?
00:25:55.000 Well, you know, just listen to Victoria Newland. 1.00
00:25:58.000 Here's somebody.
00:25:59.000 She was the deputy assistant or whatever.
00:26:03.000 She's the one who was caught on the phone calls saying F the EU when the United States under Obama was frankly trying to overthrow the government of Ukraine to get a more Western-friendly government.
00:26:20.000 She is literally part of the deep state, okay?
00:26:23.000 And she was asked by Marco Rubio in a Senate hearing, mind you, she was sworn in.
00:26:29.000 All these witnesses are sworn in.
00:26:31.000 They cannot lie.
00:26:32.000 And I don't think Rubio got the answer he was looking for. 1.00
00:26:34.000 He said, tell us there's not biolabs there.
00:26:37.000 And she says, well, actually, there are biolabs. 0.63
00:26:39.000 And we need to make sure that the Russians don't come into control of what was in those labs.
00:26:46.000 Okay.
00:26:47.000 There are two things there in her statement.
00:26:50.000 One, an acknowledgement that there were biolabs.
00:26:54.000 I got to admit, Charlie, you see so much stuff on the internet.
00:26:58.000 I hadn't even gone down that rabbit hole yet of the biolabs.
00:27:01.000 I saw it multiple times, and I didn't start paying attention until I saw Victoria. 0.98
00:27:07.000 I thought it was a little bit fringy.
00:27:08.000 I was like, yeah, whatever.
00:27:09.000 And then I was like, whoa.
00:27:12.000 Now we've got to pay attention because she is the one person who would know about this.
00:27:16.000 This would be her job to sort of monitor what's going on there and to encourage the government to do things for us. 0.87
00:27:24.000 And then the second acknowledgement: so the first acknowledgement was: yeah, there were biolabs.
00:27:28.000 Okay, maybe they were trying to work on a cure for the common cold.
00:27:32.000 Maybe they were working on a cure for cancer. 0.73
00:27:34.000 What are they doing in these biolabs? 1.00
00:27:34.000 Who knows? 1.00
00:27:36.000 But then she says, we've got to keep the Russians from coming into possession of what was in those biolabs. 0.98
00:27:42.000 Oh my gosh.
00:27:43.000 So I don't think these were COVID test kits in the bio labs that she's talking about.
00:27:50.000 So that's problematic.
00:27:52.000 Why would we be funding biolabs in Ukraine?
00:27:56.000 Why would we be funding biolabs in China?
00:27:59.000 You know, maybe it's because some of that research is outlawed here in the United States, or maybe we're trying to get plausible deniability over what was going on over there.
00:28:11.000 Yeah, and it's right on the Russian border, so it could have spewed into.
00:28:16.000 There's so many questions about this.
00:28:18.000 Just hard to process.
00:28:20.000 Finally, Congressman, before we let you go, and thank you for being generous with your time, talk about the bill you're proposing to try to have us not wear masks on airplanes.
00:28:27.000 If you get this done, you deserve a statue.
00:28:31.000 Well, we're fighting on all fronts here.
00:28:33.000 Rand Paul just got it passed in the Senate, and there were eight or nine Democrats that defected from Joe Biden.
00:28:40.000 It's called the Congressional Review Act, and it would undo something that was done in a regulatory nature.
00:28:45.000 Joe Biden threatened to veto that when he saw that it was gaining momentum in the Senate, yet still many Democrats defected from him.
00:28:53.000 We've got a similar bill here in the House that would institute the Congressional Review Act.
00:28:58.000 It would countermand Biden's mandate on airplanes.
00:29:02.000 But again, he's already threatened to veto it.
00:29:04.000 He has that power.
00:29:05.000 So we've got a backup plan that we just filed on Monday.
00:29:09.000 I got 16 of my colleagues, including Senator Rand Paul, to file a lawsuit against the CDC.
00:29:15.000 You know, the CDC is citing the same statute that they cited for the eviction moratorium, which the Supreme Court struck down this summer.
00:29:25.000 They're citing that very same statute to justify the masks on airplanes.
00:29:31.000 And what the Supreme Court did this summer is they narrowed what they thought that statute meant and what the CDC could do with that statute.
00:29:39.000 So we think that the Supreme Court has probably narrowed the definition enough that the masks fall outside of their jurisdiction.
00:29:46.000 And the second part of our lawsuit says: if banning masks or if requiring masks on airplanes falls within the jurisdiction of this statute, then the statute itself is unconstitutional because it violates the non-delegation principle, saying that we can't delegate lawmaking authority that broadly to administrative branches.
00:30:07.000 Congressman, you are fighting for liberty every single day, and I deeply appreciate that.
00:30:13.000 And thank you for your courage and your prudent sort of analysis on what's happening in Ukraine and Russia.
00:30:18.000 It's refreshing.
00:30:19.000 So thank you so much.
00:30:20.000 We'll have you on again.
00:30:21.000 Thank you, Charlie.
00:30:22.000 Thank you for getting the word out there and motivating so many young people to start paying attention.
00:30:26.000 That's what we need to do.
00:30:27.000 Thank you so much, Congressman.
00:30:28.000 Talk to you soon.
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00:31:34.000 Hey, everybody, email us at freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:31:36.000 A listener, we have great listeners, by the way.
00:31:38.000 Thank you guys for all the wisdom.
00:31:39.000 Charlie, do you fear nuclear war?
00:31:41.000 Do you really fear Putin would dare launch a nuclear missile? 0.60
00:31:44.000 He knows that it would be a total destruction of Mother Russia.
00:31:46.000 He's aggressive, power-hungry, but he's not crazy.
00:31:49.000 So what do I fear? 0.88
00:31:50.000 I fear how incompetent, corrupt, and unable our leaders are to do very basic things.
00:31:57.000 And so, yes, I'm terrified of putting our current leaders in these situations.
00:32:02.000 I do not trust them at all.
00:32:04.000 And I know you don't either.
00:32:06.000 And that seems to be the point of agreement.
00:32:08.000 As I've been emailing back and forth to the hundreds of listeners that say, Charlie, we should get involved.
00:32:12.000 We should help.
00:32:13.000 I say, do you trust our leaders?
00:32:14.000 No, I don't.
00:32:14.000 Well, then why do you want to get involved?
00:32:18.000 You might want to, but then getting involved itself is a completely different question of the competency of the people in charge.
00:32:25.000 So do I fear things getting out of control?
00:32:28.000 Yeah, I do.
00:32:28.000 Of course I do.
00:32:30.000 With the current leadership class of Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin and Jake Sullivan, Kamala Harris, you trust Kamala Harris to solve this?
00:32:41.000 You trust Kamala Harris to go into it?
00:32:43.000 Because that really is the position of the Republican Party right now.
00:32:46.000 The position of the Republican Party is that we want to stand with Ukraine.
00:32:50.000 Therefore, we're going to go give a bunch of money so Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin, Jake Sullivan, Kamala Harris, and Joe Biden can be in charge.
00:32:58.000 I'm going to be on the side that they're likely to mess it up.
00:33:03.000 If Donald Trump was in charge, I would have a completely different perspective.
00:33:08.000 I would have trust and I would have faith that he'd be able to thread this needle and not pour gasoline on the fire.
00:33:15.000 So you might want to do something, but even if you want to do something, do you trust Kamala Harris to get that done?
00:33:26.000 Well, your Republican leaders have done that.
00:33:28.000 And if you are saying, I want to get involved in Ukraine, you have to deal with the team you have in front of you, right?
00:33:34.000 So I know a lot of you say, oh, well, I'm not talking about them.
00:33:37.000 Well, that's who's running your government right now.
00:33:39.000 So you have to deal with what it is, not what you want it to be.
00:33:43.000 So what you have right now is Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin that are going to be in charge of the defense appropriations of money into an active war combat zone with the Russian Federation and the Ukrainian people and Putin's immoral and illegal invasion of Ukraine.
00:34:00.000 Have you seen anything that has given you a shot of confidence to say they really can do that?
00:34:08.000 They're doing great.
00:34:10.000 I've seen the opposite.
00:34:12.000 I have seen chapter after chapter, moment after moment, and incident after incident of people at the top level of our government that do not have the ability to do complicated things.
00:34:27.000 Just because it feels good does not mean it's good foreign policy.
00:34:31.000 And trust me, my heart is with the people of Ukraine. 1.00
00:34:34.000 I think Putin is a scumbag. 1.00
00:34:37.000 I think he is evil. 1.00
00:34:38.000 In fact, I think he is satanically driven in this conquest of Ukraine.
00:34:45.000 I believe it's an unclean spirit.
00:34:47.000 All of those things we've said repeatedly.
00:34:49.000 The real question is, what do you do about it?
00:34:51.000 And then what do you do about it based on the players you have?
00:34:55.000 And you look at our roster right now, whoa.
00:34:58.000 Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Gen Saki, Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin.
00:35:02.000 Let's make sure they don't do anything important that could possibly unravel self-government and civil society as we know it.
00:35:10.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:35:18.000 God bless.
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