The Charlie Kirk Show - October 25, 2022


2000 Mules Redux with Dinesh D'Souza and Anna Paulina Luna


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Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, Dinesh D'Souza and Ana Paulina Luna join us to talk about 2000 Mules, the book, and Ana's campaign for the Senate seat currently held by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.
00:00:00.000 Today in the Charlie Kirk show, Dinesh D'Souza and Ana Paulina Luna join us.
00:00:05.000 Dinesh talking about 2000 Mules, the book, and Ana Paulina, one of our favorite candidates running for office.
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00:01:33.000 Look, many of you have seen the movie 2000 Mules.
00:01:36.000 I highly encourage you to look at it.
00:01:38.000 It's a great movie.
00:01:40.000 It's very well researched.
00:01:42.000 It's come under mass attack from the media and from the press.
00:01:47.000 And the mastermind behind the film joins us now, and he has a book summarizing all of it.
00:01:52.000 And it's also thanks to the research done by the great organization, True the Vote.
00:01:57.000 Dinesh joins us right now.
00:01:58.000 Dinesh, welcome back to the program.
00:02:00.000 Charlie, great to be back.
00:02:01.000 Always a pleasure.
00:02:02.000 Dinesh, tell us about the book, which some people might be interested or curious: how is it different than the movie?
00:02:09.000 Walk us through it.
00:02:10.000 The movie is a 90-minute narrative of what really happened in the 2020 election.
00:02:19.000 And there are some aspects in the movie that can't be duplicated in a book.
00:02:23.000 So, for example, the movie has surveillance video.
00:02:26.000 Obviously, there's no way for me to pluck that video and stick it in a book.
00:02:30.000 The book has photos and images, but it doesn't have video.
00:02:34.000 On the other hand, books can do certain things that movies can't.
00:02:37.000 And so, a book can, almost like a legal brief, lay out a systematic argument at a far greater level of explanation and detail.
00:02:48.000 It can provide a lot of evidentiary backup, crossing the T's and dotting the I's.
00:02:53.000 And the other thing that this book has is it has a systematic refutation of the critics of the movie.
00:03:00.000 So it goes beyond 2000 Mules and it answers people like Ali Swenson of AP, Philip Bump of The Washington Post, Tom Dreisbach at National Public Radio, many of the prominent sort of debunkers of 2000 Mules.
00:03:13.000 Not to mention, by the way, Liz Cheney and Bill Barr.
00:03:16.000 All of them come under scrutiny and under fire in the book.
00:03:20.000 Well, I'm glad to hear that.
00:03:21.000 So, Dinesh, I just want to make sure our audience is processing this correctly, which is: never are you saying do not vote, especially as we are this close to an election.
00:03:31.000 Because obviously, you're calling into question the practice, the zucker boxes, the mules, and the need for election integrity.
00:03:38.000 But I do just want to make sure we emphasize every person in this audience should vote as securely as possible.
00:03:43.000 Is that correct?
00:03:45.000 Absolutely.
00:03:46.000 It's critical that we vote.
00:03:48.000 And I think the real goal of 2000 Mules, I mean, it was obviously aimed at getting some law enforcement follow-up and strengthening voter integrity laws and really giving the GOP something that it can look into if it wins the House and the Senate in the midterm election.
00:04:05.000 But I think the most important thing, job of the film and the book is just to make people aware, because it's difficult to pull off a heist of any kind when people already know about it.
00:04:16.000 If I were to tell you, Charlie, that there's a bank in Phoenix that's going to be robbed on Saturday at 7 p.m., it's going to be really hard for the bad guys to go, yeah, at 7 p.m., let's go, because people now know about it.
00:04:27.000 They're going to be sort of looking for it.
00:04:29.000 So, no, I think that what's happened is that the awareness of the movie has been helpful.
00:04:34.000 Obviously, more Republicans have also gotten involved as poll watchers and poll judges, that kind of thing.
00:04:41.000 And this is a wonderful opportunity for us to promote voter integrity by exercising our right to vote and then bringing in, by the way, elected representatives who can take a hard look at this issue.
00:04:54.000 So, Dinesh, there have been some attacks recently.
00:04:59.000 For example, the Attorney General of Arizona is now asking the federal government to investigate True the Vote, your partner in this, the great Greg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht.
00:05:10.000 What do you make of this with the Attorney General of Arizona that is now focused on investigating True the Vote, not actually looking into the mule operation?
00:05:17.000 Help us make sense of this.
00:05:20.000 So it's a very strange phenomenon, right?
00:05:24.000 Because many of the areas covered in the movie are under heavy Democratic control.
00:05:29.000 It would not be reasonable to expect these Democrats to jump up and go, let's quickly investigate.
00:05:35.000 But one would expect that in areas under some Republican control, I'm thinking here of Georgia, for example, or Mark Bernovich in Arizona, that there would be some follow-up.
00:05:45.000 And the beauty of follow-up is it can prove either side to be wrong.
00:05:49.000 So, for example, maybe Bernovich goes and talks to the mules, his investigators talk to them, and there's a perfectly plausible explanation for what they're doing.
00:05:59.000 So, in that sense, the movie would then be refuted.
00:06:01.000 Look, there's nothing fun, no funny business going on.
00:06:04.000 But it's very interesting that none of those people, and certainly the left, does not want any follow-up.
00:06:10.000 They are not willing to take the risk that they might be discredited and that the mules might start talking and squawking and reveal who paid them, how is this operation all organized and so on.
00:06:21.000 Now, True the Vote had ongoing dealings with Bernovich's office.
00:06:25.000 And at some point, it appears that communication broke down.
00:06:29.000 Now, I'm not privy to what was said back and forth, but what True the Vote says is, listen, we gave them information, we gave them data.
00:06:36.000 Far from investigating our information, they started, in a sense, revealing our confidential sources.
00:06:42.000 It became clear to us, meaning to true the vote, that they were less interested in busting the fraud than in busting the fraud detection operation.
00:06:52.000 And so, true the vote then loses confidence in the attorney general's office.
00:06:56.000 Bernovich, of course, finds that his own political future is torpedoed.
00:07:01.000 There's probably some bitterness in the office.
00:07:03.000 And so, I interpret the latest missive, the latest letter, as a lashing out at True the Vote.
00:07:09.000 In my view, Bernovich made a huge tactical mistake.
00:07:13.000 Had he embraced this issue and looked into it, it might have helped him in his Senate campaign.
00:07:17.000 In fact, we might be using the phrase Senator Bernovich after November, but it's not going to be.
00:07:24.000 Do you anticipate True the Vote will publish all of the data?
00:07:27.000 I know that was a promise that was made by Greg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht.
00:07:32.000 Do you anticipate that happening, Dinesh?
00:07:34.000 Because there are some people that are waiting for a lot more footage and pings.
00:07:40.000 What's your anticipation of that?
00:07:42.000 Well, True, the vote said that they would release all the data, pulling the ripcord, I think was their term for it.
00:07:49.000 Got to realize that I partnered with True the Vote for the purpose of making the film.
00:07:55.000 I didn't have a prior affiliation with them, and so I don't have really any direct control over them to that degree.
00:08:02.000 I know that Greg Phillips, in particular, is very concerned about the issue of security and hacking and doxing and his investigators' names being revealed.
00:08:13.000 And so, for whatever reason, they haven't fully done that yet.
00:08:16.000 And at one point, I think Greg Phillips was talking about going abroad to set up a sort of infrastructure where their information couldn't be taken down.
00:08:24.000 So, all of this falls a little beyond the purview of the book and the film.
00:08:28.000 But I do think that in any such operation, more transparency, more data, more public visibility is always a good thing.
00:08:37.000 Yeah, and the arguments that are made in the book is very simple, but it's that there was a mass mail-in ballot surge, a surplus, and there was a paid incentive, quasi-drug-like operation where people were paid to then scoop up mail-in ballots and quote unquote launder them through the mail-in-ballot zucker boxes.
00:08:57.000 So, Dinesh, I want to ask you: do you think that enough changes have been made for people to be able to have faith again in our elections?
00:09:05.000 Everyone, check out the new book, 2000 Mules, which is the book version of the movie, but with a lot more data, a lot more information, refutations from the Apparatchi Mockingbird media.
00:09:17.000 Check it out, 2000 Mules by Dinesh D'Souza.
00:09:20.000 Check out the book right now.
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00:10:25.000 Do you think enough changes have been made in states, for example, like Pennsylvania to prevent this?
00:10:30.000 Do you see any improvements at all?
00:10:32.000 Walk us through that.
00:10:33.000 I think that there have been some voter integrity laws which do some decent things, although, in my view, not enough.
00:10:42.000 There has been more surveillance this time on the Dropboxes than there was in 2020, but again, not enough.
00:10:48.000 The CISA rules, the cybersecurity infrastructure agency rules, call for every Dropbox to have 24-hour surveillance.
00:10:56.000 That is clearly not the case.
00:10:57.000 In fact, the reason some patriots are like camping out at Dropboxes is because they don't see the video surveillance that should be there on every Dropbox.
00:11:06.000 I think that this is an issue that still needs to be investigated because although we do need to move on from 2020, we can't move on without a full reckoning of what happened in 2020.
00:11:18.000 Like I mentioned the last time, there are more Republicans who are getting involved in the process.
00:11:22.000 I think Republicans realize that we pay attention to the campaign.
00:11:27.000 Democrats pay attention to who's actually running the election, who's administering and organizing the election process.
00:11:33.000 So we're becoming more attentive to that.
00:11:36.000 So bottom line, I think that there is greater awareness.
00:11:39.000 Things are looking better than they were in 2020, but there's still a ways to go, certainly before 2024.
00:11:45.000 Yeah, and Mark Elias is in court right now in Arizona alleging voter intimidation, which we do not support, but we do support people to use their constitutional rights to be able to observe elections and to be able to see whether or not there is fraudulent activity occurring.
00:12:05.000 For example, we are seeing on the front lines, people show up to try to be election workers.
00:12:12.000 And Dinesh, why are there not cameras watching this?
00:12:17.000 Isn't it against the law?
00:12:18.000 So the government doesn't follow the law and nobody cares.
00:12:20.000 Is that right?
00:12:22.000 I mean, we live at a time when every parking lot, every Home Depot, every post office, every mall is under surveillance.
00:12:31.000 The cost of that is infinitesimal.
00:12:34.000 There's no reason not to do it.
00:12:36.000 So there'd be no need for citizens or patriots to do it if they followed the rules.
00:12:41.000 That's all they have to do.
00:12:43.000 So I think it's disturbing that there is on the voting process alone, things are said about voting that in every other context are preposterous.
00:12:52.000 So in any other context, nobody says that airlines are engaging in travel suppression because they're asking you for an ID or banks are engaged in banking suppression because you got to show an ID when you cash a check.
00:13:07.000 But in the voting context, if you ask for an ID, well, that's racist.
00:13:11.000 You're suppressing, you're intimidating voters and so on.
00:13:14.000 So I think we need the insistence by the GOP on this kind of commonsensical logic throughout the voting process, because that's a process I think that has been greatly tarnished over the years, and particularly with the mail-in ballots, which are the most vulnerable forms of voting that there are.
00:13:34.000 Cut 48.
00:13:35.000 Some folks are asked, what are they doing watching ballots?
00:13:38.000 They said, we're out here getting vitamin D. Play Cut 48.
00:13:42.000 We're just out here watching boxes.
00:13:45.000 And before I make any kind of statement or anything, I'd like to get in the sun camp, getting some vitamin D.
00:13:53.000 So you're getting vitamin D or you're watching the drop boxes?
00:13:56.000 Both.
00:13:57.000 Dinesh, because we don't trust these drop boxes, it creates more cynicism and creates more distrust of our system.
00:14:05.000 Why is it that red states haven't gotten rid of these drop boxes altogether?
00:14:09.000 I'm not really sure.
00:14:11.000 I don't know if they were, they got a little bit of whiplash from COVID and they decided that they had to be to allow these things to go on.
00:14:21.000 We've had very sleepy legislative responses, even in Republican states, where they're in a position to do something about all this.
00:14:29.000 In the end, the Constitution gives states the power to make these rules.
00:14:33.000 And so sometimes I'll say things like, let's get back to a single election day where everyone shows up to vote.
00:14:39.000 But in the back of my mind, I know that when you have a diversity of laws being passed by different states, some states are going to continue to have drop boxes.
00:14:47.000 So Republicans need to have a plan in states that they don't control for dealing with these drop boxes. 0.99
00:14:53.000 And quite frankly, in places like California, where they allow ballot harvesting, hey, you can go to a liberal church and collect ballots and then bring them to the Dropbox and drop them in.
00:15:03.000 I would say in those cases, Republicans should do the same.
00:15:07.000 Go to the evangelical churches, go to the Vietnamese community, go out and collect the ballots because it's allowed under California law.
00:15:15.000 Don't let the Democrats beat you at a game.
00:15:18.000 If they make the rules in that particular case, play by those rules.
00:15:22.000 That's well said.
00:15:23.000 Dinesh, thank you so much for joining us.
00:15:25.000 Check out his new book, 2000 Meals, which is the sister to the wonderful movie that I was in.
00:15:28.000 Dinesh, thank you so much.
00:15:30.000 A pleasure.
00:15:30.000 Thank you.
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00:16:55.000 There's a very important race in Florida that we've been covering and just watching.
00:17:01.000 And she actually was part of Turning Point for quite some time.
00:17:04.000 And we visited campuses together.
00:17:06.000 In fact, one of the most viral clips we've ever done was Ana Paulina Luna and I sitting at Portland State University with all of these communists and Marxists.
00:17:16.000 And it's been so much fun to see Ana Paulina now grow into what looks to be right on the precipice of becoming a congresswoman.
00:17:25.000 That's Ana Paulina Luna, APL, and possibly against AOC.
00:17:30.000 That will be really fun.
00:17:32.000 Ana, welcome to the program.
00:17:34.000 So glad to be back on, Charlie.
00:17:36.000 So tell us about your race.
00:17:37.000 How are things looking?
00:17:38.000 There's been a lot of money being spent against you.
00:17:41.000 You're a young candidate with a fresh vision.
00:17:43.000 America first always.
00:17:44.000 Tell us about your race.
00:17:46.000 So I can tell you this: nothing will win elections other than knocking doors and putting in the elbow grease.
00:17:52.000 And that's really where we've been at.
00:17:55.000 I am running in Florida's 13th congressional district.
00:17:58.000 So although it is an open Republican seat, the gentleman that I'm running against is actually someone who was Obama's speechwriter and has actually been solely funded by a super PAC, actually, out of Dearborn, Michigan, who has a guy who's not only connected to Perkins Cooey.
00:18:15.000 So for those who might not know who that is, that's the law firm that actually cooked up the steel dossier for Hillary Clinton, Soros, and of course the Obama.
00:18:22.000 So we are beating them right now on the ground game with door knocking, but I can tell you that I'm feeling the momentum.
00:18:27.000 We're feeling the energy.
00:18:28.000 And two days ago, actually, Governor DeSantis ended up endorsing us.
00:18:32.000 Well, that's amazing.
00:18:33.000 And I know we have an event coming up in Clearwater, St. Petersburg area.
00:18:37.000 It's tpaction.com/slash DeSantis.
00:18:41.000 I will be there to get out the vote rally for you, Ana.
00:18:44.000 So talk, what are the top issues that you are seeing on the ground?
00:18:48.000 You know, inflation, crime.
00:18:49.000 What are you hearing from voters as you campaign across the great state of Florida?
00:18:53.000 The number one issue right now is the economy.
00:18:56.000 So many people cannot essentially afford to continue on this 8% inflation.
00:19:01.000 A lot of people are actually getting priced out of the Tampa Bay area because, God bless Governor DeSantis, but he's been the result of many people moving from some of these blue states because of the fact that they want to be in a red state with a strong governor like him.
00:19:14.000 And so there's a lot of people coming in from California and New York into the Tampa Bay area.
00:19:18.000 But I'd say the economy is number one.
00:19:20.000 And then also, too, people are genuinely afraid of what's happening right now with the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI.
00:19:27.000 And so, what we're finding is not just in my race, but across the country, there's been this anomaly with polling where Republicans aren't wanting to take the polls.
00:19:35.000 But to put it in perspective, in the primary, I was at a statistical tie, according to many pollsters.
00:19:41.000 And I won by 11 points because that's that silent majority that's coming out and showing up in force voting at the polls.
00:19:48.000 Yeah, I don't trust any of these polls at all.
00:19:51.000 And I think that you have a huge grassroots momentum and there's so much money being spent against you.
00:19:56.000 Ana, talk about that if you get to Congress, you are going to be a pro-freedom, pro-American, reasonable voice to the radical AOC.
00:20:03.000 I think the Democrats are fearful that if you get to Congress, you're going to be a counter to this nonsense that we've seen from the left talk about that.
00:20:12.000 100%.
00:20:13.000 In fact, I'm so much so a threat that they've actually pivoted to a media strategy that I've only really, I think, witnessed done actively in one other race, and that was in Byron Donald's for a long time, that the media did not actually want to cover him, especially some of these leftist media outlets.
00:20:28.000 But they've almost gone for full-fledged media blackouts.
00:20:30.000 So they're not even reporting on a lot of the endorsements.
00:20:33.000 I had the Attorney General of Florida endorse me.
00:20:35.000 They didn't report on it.
00:20:36.000 In fact, they did the exact opposite and tried to tie me to Pablo Escobar, which I started laughing because, as you know, Pablo Escobar is dead.
00:20:43.000 And of course, you know, leave it to the leftist, you know, racially charged media to try to make that connection.
00:20:48.000 But, you know, I'm Mexican.
00:20:50.000 Pablo is Colombian.
00:20:51.000 But, you know, when I'm seeing what's happening, I'm very proud to say that I was endorsed by the House Freedom Caucus and invited to join them once elected.
00:20:58.000 And I will be joining the Freedom Caucus.
00:21:00.000 They are one of the constitutional conservative factions of Washington, D.C.
00:21:04.000 And they really hold, I think, I call them the conscience of the Republican Party.
00:21:08.000 You know, I'm very proud to say that I'm largely funded by people dollar and not special interests.
00:21:13.000 And that's not going to change.
00:21:14.000 I'm not going to D.C. to become someone.
00:21:16.000 I'm going to make a change.
00:21:17.000 And I do believe that that is going to help kind of have us as conservatives shape the culture.
00:21:23.000 And so there's a lot of young voices coming in.
00:21:25.000 There's Carolyn Levitt in New Hampshire, one.
00:21:26.000 There's Bo Hines in North Carolina, 13.
00:21:29.000 And I'm going to be working with these people to help push back against a lot of the indoctrination that we're seeing with our young people.
00:21:35.000 Yeah, Bo Hines is in a very tough race as well.
00:21:38.000 I think he's going to pull it off and get across the finish line.
00:21:40.000 Ana, how can people support your campaign?
00:21:43.000 If you can, we need door knockers, phone bankers.
00:21:46.000 If you're out of state, you can do that.
00:21:47.000 But also, too, please consider making a donation.
00:21:50.000 $5, $10, $20.
00:21:52.000 It all goes directly to my campaign.
00:21:53.000 You know, I'm not Ilhan Omar.
00:21:55.000 I'm not paying my husband.
00:21:56.000 So head over to voteapl.com.
00:21:58.000 Please consider making that donation.
00:22:00.000 And we're actually really excited for our event on November 5th.
00:22:02.000 It's going to be really great.
00:22:03.000 tpaction.com slash DeSantis Ana.
00:22:06.000 Keep campaigning.
00:22:07.000 We're 100% behind you.
00:22:08.000 Keep it up.
00:22:09.000 Talk to you soon.
00:22:10.000 Thank you.
00:22:10.000 Thank you.
00:22:11.000 God bless.
00:22:12.000 Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:22:14.000 So you see a candidate like Ana Paulina, Hispanic, young, articulate, has a message, has a vision.
00:22:20.000 She should be receiving lots of support from the Republican establishment, but she's not getting nearly enough.
00:22:26.000 Instead, the support is running ads to prop up Shapiro in the Pennsylvania governor's race at the expense of Fetterman.
00:22:36.000 The new strategy of the Republican establishment in Pennsylvania is to throw the amazing leader, Doug Mastriano, under the bus, throw him in front of the train and just say, well, we'd rather have Oz than Oz and Mastriano.
00:22:36.000 That's right.
00:22:51.000 It's too big of a risk.
00:22:52.000 And so I don't know what cut this is.
00:22:54.000 We're going to play it in a second, but it's an ad that is running on local Pennsylvania television that is basically saying that Fetterman is more radical on crime than Shapiro.
00:23:04.000 What?
00:23:05.000 Play this tape.
00:23:06.000 I'm actually a Democrat.
00:23:07.000 I'm running on my record on crime.
00:23:11.000 John Fetterman's record on crime is crazy.
00:23:14.000 He's not like most Democrats.
00:23:16.000 Dozens of times, he was the only vote to parting criminals.
00:23:20.000 225 times, Josh Shapiro voted against the criminals.
00:23:24.000 But Fetterman voted to release them.
00:23:26.000 That's nuts.
00:23:27.000 Fetterman's way more radical than Shapiro.
00:23:30.000 What's wrong with this guy?
00:23:32.000 American Crossroads is responsible for the content of this advertising.
00:23:36.000 This should make your blood boil.
00:23:40.000 I want to just read what that was.
00:23:42.000 This is a pro-Shapiro, anti-Fetterman advertisement that Shapiro has voted against criminals 225 times, but John Fetterman has it.
00:23:52.000 They are trying to make Mastriano lose just to make Oz win.
00:23:56.000 This is the Republican establishment.
00:23:58.000 This is from American Crossroads.
00:24:00.000 They've spent more than $4 million on this race.
00:24:03.000 And this is happening in races all across the country.
00:24:05.000 They spent money, for example, against Caroline Levitt, New Hampshire in the primary.
00:24:11.000 They're spending money against Shabaka in Alaska.
00:24:13.000 And I just want to say, if you are donating to these national senatorial campaigns, you are supporting this.
00:24:20.000 And you might be.
00:24:21.000 You might say, oh, I would never give money to them.
00:24:23.000 Be careful.
00:24:24.000 They're very, very sneaky the way they send the emails and they say it's for this committee and it goes to that.
00:24:29.000 Donate directly to campaigns and candidates if you donate at all and they need your help.
00:24:34.000 Go to the campaigns that they are actually promoting, the good guys.
00:24:38.000 I mean, go into the websites that they're actually promoting.
00:24:41.000 This strategy is nauseating.
00:24:42.000 I have never seen this strategy before.
00:24:45.000 I mean, I've seen some candidates, you know, say, oh, I'm going to run this way and run that way and kind of be quiet about it.
00:24:52.000 I have never seen an advertisement where you are boosting the Democrat to try to get a Republican elected.
00:24:59.000 That's exactly what's happening in Pennsylvania.
00:25:01.000 They want Mastriano to lose so bad that they are running pro-Shapiro, anti-Fetterman advertisement.
00:25:09.000 This is a massive betrayal.
00:25:12.000 It's going to backfire too, by the way.
00:25:13.000 A lot of MAGA voters are going to say, I'm not going to vote at all for Oz because of this.
00:25:18.000 Oz is not involved in this directly.
00:25:19.000 This is a super PAC.
00:25:20.000 He's legally not allowed to be involved in this.
00:25:23.000 This is really bad stuff, everybody.
00:25:26.000 It's a political action committee, so Oz has no fingerprints on this in particular.
00:25:31.000 I mean, an individual.
00:25:32.000 It's just an outside group.
00:25:34.000 Doug Mastriano is an American hero.
00:25:36.000 He's a lieutenant colonel.
00:25:37.000 He's a great American.
00:25:38.000 He's fighting for every single inch.
00:25:40.000 And instead of the Republican Party just being neutral, no, you have Republican groups that are literally running ads against him.
00:25:48.000 Not just ads against him, boosting his opponent, Shapiro.
00:25:52.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
00:25:57.000 This is happening in many different places.
00:25:59.000 Proxy wars are starting to pop up.
00:26:02.000 And you might have thought the proxy wars were done.
00:26:04.000 You know what's so funny is the turtle and the senate leaders and the Republican establishment are always telling us, come on, MAGA people, come on, conservative base.
00:26:13.000 Come on, guys.
00:26:13.000 Why can't we just unite?
00:26:15.000 Why can't we just unite?
00:26:16.000 How often do we have to hear that from Republicans?
00:26:18.000 Come on, let's join forces.
00:26:19.000 It's time to all get on the same team.
00:26:21.000 And I'm like, yeah, okay, great.
00:26:23.000 Yeah, terrific.
00:26:24.000 Let's do that.
00:26:24.000 And by the way, I'm a team player.
00:26:25.000 I want that.
00:26:26.000 But then it's, they actually don't believe it.
00:26:28.000 They don't want to be on the team with MAGA and the conservative base. 0.59
00:26:32.000 Now, one of the reasons why Carrie Lake is able to withstand this and rise above it is she's just such an unbelievably good candidate. 1.00
00:26:39.000 She's so artistic.
00:26:40.000 I'm not saying Mastriano isn't, but I'll just say this.
00:26:43.000 Carrie Lake is more charismatic than Mastriano.
00:26:45.000 That's just a fact.
00:26:46.000 Okay. 0.86
00:26:46.000 Carrie Lake's been on television 30 years, and she has a movement unlike anything I've ever seen. 0.86
00:26:50.000 And Mitch McConnell pulls off, pulls out funding for Blake Masters.
00:26:58.000 McConnell pulls out funding for Baldick.
00:27:01.000 It's happening all across the country.
00:27:03.000 It's very serious.
00:27:05.000 So what do we do about it?
00:27:06.000 Stop donating to these people and then donate to the right people.
00:27:09.000 You're right.
00:27:09.000 It's Karl Rogue's PAC.
00:27:10.000 Somebody said name names.
00:27:11.000 I did do that before.
00:27:12.000 This is Carl Rogues PAC that is running anti-Mastriano ads and pro-Shapiro ads.
00:27:19.000 Email me directly, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:27:21.000 This is a great point here.
00:27:22.000 Charlie, I'm wondering if anyone has wondered why the Democrats are not panicking.
00:27:25.000 Starting to look like 2020, where the Democrats are up to something, and we the people need to be ready for this.
00:27:29.000 What's your thoughts?
00:27:29.000 I think that's very smart.
00:27:30.000 I'm in a position of just caution.
00:27:34.000 We can't be too cocky.
00:27:36.000 We can't be too confident.
00:27:38.000 I do think there's a lot of good trends.
00:27:40.000 I think it's going our way, but we have to have election workers.
00:27:43.000 We have to have poll watchers.
00:27:45.000 Lisa makes a good point.
00:27:46.000 She says, Charlie, come on, give me a break.
00:27:48.000 Calling it a massive betrayal.
00:27:49.000 They're rhinos. 0.87
00:27:50.000 That's what they do.
00:27:50.000 They betray.
00:27:51.000 That's a good point, Lisa.
00:27:53.000 I have no disagreement.
00:27:54.000 But just for some of our new listeners, maybe they need to hear about the betrayal of the Republican establishment against what could be Pennsylvania's greatest governor.
00:28:03.000 Mastriano would be an amazing governor.
00:28:04.000 By the way, Mastriano can win.
00:28:06.000 Why would you then run ads against Mastriano to boost Shapiro just to boost Oz?
00:28:11.000 Do you think that's going to have a consolidated front?
00:28:13.000 How do you think we're going to win?
00:28:14.000 For anyone that wants to win the White House in 2024, how are we going to win the White House with a Democrat governor of Pennsylvania?
00:28:21.000 It'll make it a lot more difficult.
00:28:24.000 Jerry says, Isn't that packed throwing Mastriano under the bus run by Karl Rove?
00:28:27.000 Yes, it is.
00:28:28.000 That's correct.
00:28:29.000 I just want to say one of the reasons I love Ron DeSantis and Governor DeSantis is he went out of his way to support Doug Mastriano with turning point action over the summer while a lot of establishment Republican groups told DeSantis not to do it.
00:28:40.000 He said, I don't answer to you.
00:28:41.000 That's a big, that's a big win for DeSantis.
00:28:44.000 I want to tell you, that took a lot of courage for him to do that.
00:28:46.000 And obviously, he's up 15 points in the latest Florida poll.
00:28:48.000 It didn't hurt him, actually helped him.
00:28:50.000 Okay. 1.00
00:28:52.000 We can't get rid of this woman. 1.00
00:28:54.000 No matter how hard we try, she always comes back. 0.91
00:28:56.000 And I do not want to discount or let's just say it's not a possibility of Hillary Clinton potentially running for president in 2024. 0.99
00:29:10.000 She's talking about how Republicans are going to steal the election?
00:29:14.000 You can't say that.
00:29:15.000 You're an election denier.
00:29:17.000 Play cut 31. 0.74
00:29:19.000 Hello, Indivisibles.
00:29:21.000 I'm here to highlight something that is keeping me up at night.
00:29:26.000 Right-wing extremists already have a plan to literally steal the next presidential election.
00:29:34.000 The right-wing-controlled Supreme Court may be poised to rule on giving state legislatures.
00:29:43.000 Yes, you heard me that correctly.
00:29:45.000 State legislatures the power to overturn presidential elections. 1.00
00:29:52.000 Hilde Beast, she just won't go away. 1.00
00:29:55.000 I'll tell you. 0.99
00:29:57.000 She is relentless. 1.00
00:29:58.000 I think she could potentially run for president in 2024, which I would love.
00:30:02.000 I'll donate to that campaign.
00:30:04.000 We should get as many Republicans as possible to donate for the Hillary Clinton for president campaign. 1.00
00:30:08.000 Let's just show her the support, get her across the finish line, get her to be able to be the nominee. 1.00
00:30:14.000 Is Hillary laying groundwork now for a post-red wave narrative? 0.98
00:30:17.000 What's she talking about? 0.95
00:30:18.000 She talk about state legislatures having plenary power, which is constitutional, not conspiratorial.
00:30:23.000 And I love the language she uses: steal the election.
00:30:25.000 Really? 1.00
00:30:26.000 Elections can be stolen, Hillary? 0.93
00:30:27.000 You election denier?
00:30:29.000 You're a threat to democracy.
00:30:32.000 We hear nonstop.
00:30:33.000 You can't question anything.
00:30:34.000 The election's perfectly there.
00:30:35.000 Then Hillary Clinton comes out and says the election is going to be stolen by right-wing extremists, and it's keeping me up at night.
00:30:43.000 Geez.
00:30:45.000 I don't think we've seen the last of Hillary Clinton.
00:30:47.000 I've said that for quite some time.
00:30:49.000 Hillary Clinton has still not accepted the 2016 election results, by the way.
00:30:54.000 And what is she talking about?
00:30:55.000 A number of Republican nominees for Secretary of State and State Legislature in Arizona, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada could manage the proceedings of the 2024 election if they win, have in the past challenged the legitimacy of the 2020 election. 0.98
00:31:05.000 Oh, wait, so we can't challenge the 2020 election, but Hillary Clinton can challenge an election that hasn't happened yet. 0.95
00:31:13.000 So Hillary can challenge a theoretical and future election before anyone votes, before there's a candidate, before there's a nominee, before there's primaries. 0.99
00:31:21.000 She can already say it's going to be stolen.
00:31:24.000 And we can't say, yeah, it's probably a weird thing that $400 million via Zuckerboxes came into our cities.
00:31:29.000 We had mail-in ballots that were like a five times increase.
00:31:32.000 We had signature verification problems.
00:31:34.000 No, no, no.
00:31:35.000 You're an election denier.
00:31:36.000 You're an insurrectionist. 0.96
00:31:37.000 But Hillary Clinton can already say that a future election is stolen. 1.00
00:31:41.000 How does that one work exactly? 1.00
00:31:44.000 I don't think we've seen the last of Hillary. 0.67
00:31:46.000 I don't.
00:31:47.000 She's got to do everything she possibly can to get out of the house with Bill.
00:31:50.000 So she's got to just.
00:31:52.000 I think Bill's actually going to be the big winner of this. 0.93
00:31:54.000 He'd love to see Hillary Clinton back on the rope.
00:31:56.000 Email us. 0.94
00:31:57.000 It's the unhappiest politically married couple you'll ever see.
00:32:00.000 They don't actually love each other.
00:32:01.000 It's been quite honest, obvious for years.
00:32:03.000 Email is freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:32:05.000 It's a marriage of political convenience.
00:32:07.000 It's well known.
00:32:08.000 Subscribe to the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
00:32:10.000 We're getting a lot of emails here about Doug Mastriano.
00:32:13.000 I'm sure they hate Mastriano and they fear him.
00:32:16.000 Yeah, it's the antithesis of everything they are.
00:32:17.000 That's right.
00:32:18.000 It's just they are now running ads boosting the Democrat to go against Mastriano.
00:32:24.000 It really is repulsive.
00:32:25.000 It shouldn't be acceptable.
00:32:26.000 We should never forget it.
00:32:28.000 Same thing they're doing in Alaska, same thing they're doing in New Hampshire in the primary.
00:32:32.000 If you tabulate all the money together, it's tens of millions of dollars that have been going by Republicans against MAGA candidates.
00:32:40.000 That should infuriate you.
00:32:42.000 Never give money to the Republican establishment again and let them have it when they call you.
00:32:46.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:32:48.000 Email me your thoughts as always.
00:32:49.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.
00:32:50.000 Thank you so much for listening.
00:32:52.000 God bless.
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