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00:00:00.000Hey everybody, today on The Charlie Kirk Show, Francisco Gonzalez joins us as we remember the passing of a dear friend, Adam Andrzejewski, and Corey Lewandowski as we talk about where does this race stand versus 2020 and 2016.
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00:01:38.000Look, where things stand very candidly are Donald Trump is in the greatest position he's ever been in.
00:01:43.000When you look historically, whether it's at 2020 or the 2016 election, he's in a stronger position now in every one of the battleground states than he was four or eight years ago.
00:01:53.000He's also in a stronger position on the national scale.
00:01:56.000So while the national polls don't matter, what we're seeing in the battleground
00:02:00.000states, whether you look at Wisconsin or Pennsylvania, you look at Michigan or
00:02:03.000Arizona, we are running ahead anywhere from two to seven points from where we
00:03:31.000When you look at our polling data, In what has not really been a strong state like Virginia, and we're running even or ahead in both public data and the private data.
00:03:41.000You look at the same in Minnesota states where, you know, historically, particularly with a vice presidential nominee on the Democrat side, who's from there.
00:03:50.000What it's showing is we have the opportunity to expand the map.
00:03:53.000Yes, everyone is familiar with the seven battleground states and the two congressional districts, Maine 2 and Nebraska, that could go differently.
00:04:01.000But the reality was we looked at these scenarios back in 16 and again in 20.
00:04:05.000Today, unlike in 2020, we don't need to be in Florida.
00:04:11.000And the battle, what has historically been the battleground state of Ohio, you know, the last poll that I saw is Donald Trump has about a 14 point lead.
00:04:17.000Now that's not to say we will take anything for granted, but that is to show the strength of the campaign that has been built and the sophistication of not just the campaign, but of the candidate who has really honed his message now and is delivering that message over the last 40 days.
00:04:33.000And let's talk about what that message is, Corey.
00:04:47.000You know, everybody remembers how good the economy was four years ago when he was the president of the United States, and a rising tide lifted all boats.
00:04:54.000It didn't matter if you were rich or poor, black, white, green, orange, or blue.
00:04:58.000It didn't matter your socioeconomic status, your religion, or your ethnicity.
00:05:01.000Everybody benefited from a Trump administration.
00:05:04.000And so that is what we're going to recreate.
00:05:06.000We're going to recreate the opportunity for everyone to have more prosperity and a smaller government.
00:05:11.000That's first and foremost, because the pocketbook issues are always what drives presidential campaigns.
00:05:16.000And everybody knows the cost of food, the cost of fuel, the cost of home heating oil, et cetera, continues to escalate because of the policies of the Biden-Harris-Walls administration.
00:05:26.000And you couple that with this devastating issue of illegal immigration.
00:05:31.000Now, the government says 10 million people have crossed the border.
00:05:34.000You and I both know it's probably closer to 20 million.
00:05:36.000At least 100 people on the terrorist watch list have come in.
00:05:39.000They're not coming for our beaches, Charlie.
00:05:40.000They're coming because they want to invade our country.
00:05:43.000We've seen that in Aurora, Colorado, specifically, where migrant gangs are taking over our communities.
00:05:49.000And they're doing so because Kamala Harris And Joe Biden and Tim Walz have allowed it.
00:05:54.000Kamala is finally going to make her first trip to the border because she understands that the second most important issue behind the economy is the issue of illegal immigration.
00:06:03.000She's called the wall a vanity project.
00:06:04.000She's been against the wall for the last three and a half years.
00:06:07.000They've done nothing to stop this porous border on the Northern or the Southern border and people's lives are ruined because of it.
00:07:03.000That is where we could get Pennsylvania, get Georgia, get Arizona, but we'd lose because we dropped North Carolina due to unfortunate developments.
00:07:12.000But there's more optimistic maps that we could have, so I want to bring up... let's do...
00:07:19.000So this is going to be a far more upbeat map we're looking at, but there's a prognosticator I've been looking at, and he has a map where if you take 2020's polling miss, because there were some huge misses in certain states like Wisconsin, if you just assume that that level of shy Trump voter is in effect again, and they were thinking it wouldn't be there in 2020, and it was, so maybe it'll be here in 2024 again, If you just take the current polls and imagine, oh, there's a lot of missing Trump voters again, we get a really good result.
00:08:13.000I think the easiest strategy, when I say the easiest, the most traditional strategy is North Carolina, Georgia, and you add Pennsylvania's 19 electoral votes to it, and you get us to 270.
00:08:24.000The reality, in my opinion, is, and history proves this, depending on how Pennsylvania goes, Wisconsin traditionally goes the same way, and that's been the case over the last multiple elections.
00:08:34.000So whether it's Donald Trump who wins them both, and you add Michigan to that in 16, or in the 2020 election, that's what's been the case here.
00:08:42.000Now, Pennsylvania is the big white whale, right?
00:08:44.000Donald Trump wins that and gets the 19 electoral votes.
00:08:48.000But let's just say as an example, and I don't think it would happen, Donald Trump loses North Carolina.
00:08:52.000We have an opportunity to take back Arizona for sure and to flip Nevada.
00:08:56.000And you couple that with our victory in Georgia, and all of a sudden we're there.
00:09:00.000But look, North Carolina has an enormous military population.
00:09:03.000We've known about this for a long time, and they have been very aware of what the Biden-Harris-Walls administration has done to decimate our military.
00:09:11.000They're familiar with the Abbey Gate disaster and the withdrawal from Afghanistan, leaving billions of dollars behind.
00:09:16.000So we have a number of paths forward here.
00:09:18.000I believe Maine too, falls with Donald Trump.
00:09:21.000I believe that we're still on the offense, which is a very different position than we were in, in 2016.
00:09:28.0002016, I think it's fair to say we took them by surprise.
00:09:35.000We had this COVID scenario in front of us, and we had a, a by and large, a mainstream media who hates Donald Trump and hates his policies because he calls them out for their failures.
00:09:45.000Now what we have in 2020 is we have a level of intensity that I haven't seen in eight years, to be very honest.
00:09:52.000In 2020, people were afraid to be Donald Trump supporters.
00:09:55.000Now, as I drive around this country and I travel, I see businesses that had never been supportive of Donald Trump with a giant four by eight signs.
00:10:02.000And they're saying, this is our last best hope, because if we lose this election, there's nowhere left to go.
00:10:13.000Yeah, look, Trump Force 47 is our ground game.
00:10:15.000And what Turning Point is doing and what we're doing is we're getting volunteers engaged, whether it's on knocking on doors or making phone calls.
00:10:22.000This is where everyday Americans can go.
00:10:25.000It's not a place that we're soliciting money from, but Trump Force 47 is the opportunity for people who want to make a difference in their country to join us, to go to our website, to sign up to make phone calls from home, to find captains in their areas.
00:10:37.000Particularly in the battleground states and the two battleground congressional districts that we need your help in.
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00:11:40.000So Corey, I'm going to ask you an important question that is, I don't, it's not difficult, but it has to be confronted head on, which is how should people vote?
00:11:48.000I'm a, I'm a believer in early voting.
00:11:50.000I'm not here to change someone's voting habits.
00:11:51.000If you've been voting for election day for the last 40 years, but Corey, it is time that we celebrate early voting for people that have busy lives or might be first time voters.
00:13:52.000Once you have it, do it now, not later.
00:13:54.000And we can't afford any sort of leakage or drop-off of our movement.
00:13:59.000And Corey, you remember back in the midterms, here in our home state of Arizona, the long lines of Kerry Lake, the machine tabulator failures, we cannot possibly repeat that sort of error and that kind of a mistake.
00:14:13.000So, Corey, the president notoriously, in closing here, is the best closer in politics.
00:14:20.000And the last 30 days is where he just gets Tom Brady and it's fourth quarter.
00:14:25.000Can you give us some insight, a little bit of tease?
00:14:28.000What can we expect from President Trump from a schedule-wise, from geographic, crisscrossing the country?
00:14:34.000What can we expect from President Trump, the Mariana Rivera of politics?
00:14:38.000Yeah, Donald Trump has a hellacious schedule and you guys have seen what he's capable of doing in the past and what he continues to do at 78 years old.
00:14:45.000You know, tomorrow we're in Pennsylvania.
00:14:47.000I'm sorry, tomorrow we're in Michigan.
00:14:51.000On Saturday we're in Wisconsin and in Alabama for the Georgia Tuscaloosa football game down there against Alabama.
00:14:58.000Sunday we're back in some other state.
00:15:01.000I mean, Charlie, look, if I told you if I had the schedule in front of me, you'd say there's no way one human being is going to be able to do all this.
00:15:06.000Because there are no days off with 40 days to go.
00:15:10.000He's going to be doing two, three, and four events a day.
00:15:13.000And you juxtapose that with Kamala Harris, who is going to do one event and sit down with one friendly reporter who basically has given her the questions ahead of time.
00:15:26.000I love the fact that he's a big game player.
00:15:28.000He's the guy you want the ball in his hands with seconds to go and the clock running down because you know he's always going to deliver.
00:15:34.000He has ice water running through his veins and he is so focused on this election.
00:15:37.000He knows what's at stake for him, our country, and the world, that he's willing to do anything that is asked of him right now.
00:15:44.000Crisscross this country, talk to every voter, and leave nothing on the table and run through the tape in 40 days from today.
00:15:49.000Just so everyone understands, back in 2020, Corey, you were not involved at that time, the campaign ran out of money, and Donald Trump did 45 events in 25 days.
00:15:59.000It was one of the most insane schedules, and he literally brought the entire election to a competitive place, and I think actually to victory, but that's a separate issue.
00:16:08.000If he does anything close to that, he's going to be tough to beat.
00:19:43.000So Adam was a uniquely American story and was a crusader for American transparency.
00:19:50.000And yeah, the first time I met him, he was a Chicagoan just like me.
00:19:53.000He said, I want the whole government checkbook to be transparent, which by the way, I think anyone running for president should adopt this.
00:19:59.000It's just such a smart political thing.
00:20:02.000We want every dime of federal spending online in real time.
00:20:05.000True transparency, from if you're buying a cookie at the Department of Energy, or you're buying a missile for the Department of Defense.
00:21:20.000And him and his brother, in the mid to late 90s, they started HomePages directories, which is basically, you know, we all know about those big, huge, you know, yellow books, those telephone books that would land on your doorstep.
00:21:34.000But what Adam and his brother did is they said, you know, you don't need the huge telephone book.
00:21:39.000What most of the business, most people do in this country are within about three to five miles of their home.
00:21:45.000So he focused on and talked about an entrepreneur mindset.
00:21:48.000You're not going to compete in Chicago.
00:21:50.000Let's go and compete in the small towns that have less than 5,000 people and build these little small neighborhood directories.
00:21:56.000And that's how they We're successful, but he also told me a story, Charlie, and every entrepreneur needs to understand this of you're not going to be successful overnight, right?
00:22:06.000You're going to, there's going to be, so he said for the first five or six years of their business, they didn't make any profits.
00:22:12.000Like they just, everything went to their expenses.
00:22:44.000But people don't see a lot of that early work.
00:22:47.000And I think a lot of young entrepreneurs get really frustrated, because they think things are going to be instant gratification, that they're going to have the success that Adam Andrzejewski had.
00:22:56.000But yeah, he had great success as a business owner and translated a lot of those skills into what he did, not just politically, trying to run for governor, but into this massive transparency movement.
00:23:05.000He was a dear friend of both of ours and a huge advocate for Turning Point USA.
00:23:54.000So, the legacy, what would Adam want us to continue to fight for?
00:23:59.000Well, the sad thing is that he's not here with us physically.
00:24:02.000I think the great thing about somebody like Adam is the legacy he's leaving.
00:24:07.000As you mentioned, I mean, you know, Open the Books is going to continue.
00:24:11.000I personally don't know their new leadership or what their plan is, but you know, he's built an institution there, but he's really built an idea of taking everything that the government, you know, spending, everything, You know, all the in public employees, who they are, how much money they make, why, you know, all these sorts of things, putting it online.
00:24:32.000I think the thing is, that stuff can be online, Charlie, but nobody can use it.
00:24:38.000If you're listening or watching this, wherever you're located, you know, whether if you're in a small town in Nebraska, if you're in a if you're in a big city in Illinois, like wherever you're at, Go online.
00:24:49.000You can start going to open the books.
00:24:50.000I just gave them a nice plug, because they have all the links there of how you can activate yourself, because if we don't hold these people accountable in our own backyard... I mean, that was Adam's biggest message.
00:25:00.000He goes, look, we have all of our eyes on Washington, D.C., and that's important, but if we don't first focus your eyes in your own backyard and seeing what people are spending... I mean, we saw this in the You know, in the last few years, with all the parents being so motivated to go to school board meetings, you know, it's just something we hadn't seen before.
00:25:18.000But this information is accessible to us now.
00:25:19.000We got to hold these people accountable.
00:25:34.000Look, somebody from there can give you all the logistics of the technology, but we have the technology, right?
00:25:40.000I mean, everything is in the palm of our hands now.
00:25:43.000Instead of just, you know, using it to scroll through TikTok videos, you know, maybe do something, you know, influential and impactful in your own local government.
00:25:50.000And I mean, nobody, you know, we all, we all, We all complain about taxes, right?
00:25:55.000We all complain about the debts, the debts that our cities, states, and federal government are running.
00:26:03.000So what are they spending and why are they spending it?
00:26:05.000And by the way, they are, I mean, I was just, I was just in Colorado yesterday with a good friend of mine and he was telling me, he was just looking in Denver.
00:26:13.000He's like, you know how much money they spend every time they put one cone on the street?
00:27:28.000It's funny, I wanted to have Adam on the show a couple months ago, it didn't work and obviously
00:27:32.000It's like, you look at this website, you're like, geez, this is incredibly difficult work to put together, where he FOIAs it, he puts it together, and then these people realize.
00:27:42.000And he was the one that actually revealed a lot of the Anthony Fauci grants, too.
00:27:46.000Yeah, well, he was actually on my podcast in the middle of 2020.
00:27:49.000And he went off for a few minutes on just how, I mean, he actually called the COVID lockdowns of 2020, perhaps the the worst public policy decision in over a century.
00:28:01.000And, you know, so I think, Yeah, the amount of money that was spent, but the biggest thing is where was the money going, right?
00:28:08.000Because we all had this, like, a lot of people had this idea that, well, you know, we got it, the government shut us down, so, you know, we're owed money, right?
00:28:16.000And so they kind of, I think some people kind of gave our government, you know, overlords some benefit of the doubt on how much money they were spending for this brief period.
00:28:25.000But then if you look at where all this money ended up going, It had nothing to do with with people's jobs or, or even anything to do with the health crisis of COVID.
00:28:36.000And so that's the type of stuff that that's again, if you have the transparency movement, and it's all online, we can find it.
00:28:48.000He will be, but hopefully we will continue his legacy.
00:28:50.000Yeah, and one of these days we will put it in a presidential platform and into policy to make every dime of federal spending online in real time.
00:28:59.000How amazing would that be, guys, if every time the federal government has to spend money, they have to upload it so that you, the taxpayer, can see it?
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00:30:25.000Charlie, my book is called The American Dream is a Terrible Thing to Waste.
00:30:29.000And really, it's about how to build an entrepreneur mindset.
00:30:31.000You know, you mentioned before my podcast called the Agents of Innovation, which Adam Andrzejewski was on the podcast, and there's a chapter on Adam in the book.
00:30:40.000So really, what I did is after I hit about 100 episodes, I've been doing this podcast, you know, now about eight or nine years, you know, one or two episodes a month, just interviewing entrepreneurs about their story.
00:30:49.000I really, I'm really interested in their journey.
00:30:52.000It's like the journey of Charlie Kirk, right?
00:31:01.000So a lot of times when we meet a successful entrepreneur, we meet them at their point of success.
00:31:05.000We don't realize, like Adam said, after 10 years, he was an overnight success, right?
00:31:09.000So what I did is after I hit 100 episodes, I wanted to actually Kind of celebrate the first hundred episodes by writing a book and I brought together, I literally reviewed all the episodes and I said, what are the kind of ten common characteristics of the entrepreneur?
00:31:26.000Well, entrepreneurs are problem solvers, they're lifelong learners, they're doers, right?
00:31:30.000I mean, it's important to be a dreamer, it's more important to be a doer, right?
00:31:59.000I started asking a lot of my Podcast guest over time what their first job was I was shocked that so many of them like Adam had a paper route That was just a common thing.
00:32:08.000They found time in the morning before school to earn a few bucks.
00:32:12.000That's the kind of thing that you know Being an entrepreneur is not something that most people can do but most people can build an entrepreneur mindset and And why I call this the American dream is a terrible thing
00:33:50.000One of the things that I really found with entrepreneurs, especially a lot of people on my podcast, because you're in the middle of a conversation.
00:34:01.000How many times in the middle of an interview has somebody just mentioned a book that has been impactful to them?
00:34:06.000Or mention an author or something like that.
00:34:09.000And it's not even just reading a book.
00:34:10.000It could also be, you know, I mean, why do people in business go to conferences, right?
00:34:15.000I think one of the biggest things is building a network.
00:35:22.000Some people never leave their own state, they never leave.
00:35:25.000But I think what's important about even leaving the country, first of all, you find that there's a universal nature to human beings, what they care about.
00:35:34.000But also, every time you leave the United States, it makes you appreciate this place more.