The Charlie Kirk Show - 3 Signs that Prove We're On the Right Side —LIVE from Godspeak Calvary Chapel

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday.

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00:00:03.000 Email me directly as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:00:06.000 Happy Sunday, everybody.

00:00:08.000 I hope that you spend it worshiping the Lord and getting your life straightened out because we all need that.

00:00:12.000 Buckle up. 0.96

00:00:13.000 Here we go.

00:00:14.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:15.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:18.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:21.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:24.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:25.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:26.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:28.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:35.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:00:43.000 That's why we are here.

00:00:46.000 It's great to be back.

00:00:48.000 I love speaking here, so it's great to see all you guys.

00:00:52.000 We're going to talk about a lot tonight, and I just love the community here.

00:00:56.000 And Rob, you've done such an amazing job and your elder board of building community.

00:01:00.000 And that is one of the great firewalls against tyranny is real relationships and people that have common bonds.

00:01:07.000 I see so many familiar faces across the room here.

00:01:10.000 And we get your emails, your notes, your cards of prayer and support all throughout the year.

00:01:15.000 Last year, we traveled 330 days all across the country, gave speeches in every place you could possibly imagine.

00:01:23.000 And Godspeak remained this fervent bulwark against the tyranny in every turn.

00:01:30.000 And we're trying to do everything we possibly can to encourage more pastors and churches to stand like this church because there's not a lot of churches like this.

00:01:38.000 You guys all know that.

00:01:40.000 And Rob, you're doing a very special job of continuing to lead this congregation, whether it be from what you're doing with the amazing baptisms that you're experiencing, the people giving their life to the Lord.

00:01:55.000 But also, you know, in this moment that we're in, it seems that they're trying to convince you that you are alone.

00:02:02.000 It's the spell of isolation that the tyrants always try to cast upon the citizenry.

00:02:09.000 And it's a form of almost a psychological manipulation that's happening.

00:02:14.000 And if you've asked yourself this question, first of all, you're not alone, but you're also, you're not crazy.

00:02:21.000 Because I asked myself this question as well, where I say to myself, I can't be the only one that thinks this way.

00:02:27.000 And I say this.

00:02:29.000 And when you watch the news and you have to sit through someone like Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who says, and you read this, and I mean, it makes Orwell look like mainline history, right?

00:02:44.000 I mean, yeah, she wrote this today.

00:02:47.000 That was supposed to be a warning, not a blueprint.

00:02:49.000 Right.

00:02:50.000 So she wrote today, I'm triple vaxxed, boosted, and I got COVID, and you should go get triple vaxxed and boosted too.

00:03:00.000 And if you don't, you can't go eat at a restaurant.

00:03:03.000 And I think to myself, I can't be the only one that can possibly, and you're not.

00:03:08.000 In fact, more of us are seeing this nonsense than ever before.

00:03:11.000 Truth is accelerating right now.

00:03:14.000 The last 30 days have been one of the most consequential 30 days as far as raising the frequency of which truth is being disseminated in my lifetime and in the last hundred years of America.

00:03:25.000 We're going to kind of digest that.

00:03:27.000 When we were in the back room and you talked about Rogan, would you share with everybody the significance of what's because we're being censored and the truth is never afraid of a lie, but a lie can't survive in the presence of truth.

00:03:38.000 So they censor and then they put forward the propaganda and then you got a guy like Rogan.

00:03:42.000 Tell them about his spiritual background, but yet here's a man who's doing more than almost any pulpit in America.

00:03:47.000 Yeah, I mean, Joe Rogan's an interesting figure and you should applaud him.

00:03:52.000 And Joe Rogan, kind of the weed-smoking, psychedelic supporting, samurai sword-wielding, free-flowing, alien, entertaining, very spiritually questionable podcaster, has done more to defend liberty than 95% of pastors in America over the last year.

00:04:13.000 And I don't say that lightly.

00:04:16.000 I have eternal respect for that man.

00:04:19.000 And so thanks to Bryce and, you know, kind of just kind of the way the stars came together, I had a chance to meet Joe a couple months ago, and it was just right near here.

00:04:30.000 And I remember asking him about his stance on Ivermectin and all this.

00:04:33.000 And I was so taken by his response.

00:04:35.000 He said, oh, yeah.

00:04:36.000 He said, they're going to try to shut me up after all this.

00:04:38.000 He said, I'm going to have every expert I possibly can on the show.

00:04:41.000 I'm going to double down.

00:04:42.000 I'm going to triple down.

00:04:43.000 And I said to myself, and maybe he knows it, maybe he doesn't, that he was really placed into a spiritual dynamic to give the people, you, the information that was so desperately needed at this time.

00:04:57.000 So the numbers are out.

00:04:59.000 His conversation with Dr. Peter McCullough is the most listened to conversation he's ever had.

00:05:03.000 Over 60 million podcast downloads.

00:05:08.000 And these are unheard of numbers.

00:05:11.000 Give them a comparison like he did with CNN.

00:05:12.000 That was fascinating.

00:05:13.000 Yeah, so CNN on a good night, and this will only count like a 30-second viewer has like 800,000 viewers on a night.

00:05:22.000 Joe Rogan is averaging 12 million per episode with Dr. Peter McCullough, 60 million downloads.

00:05:27.000 Dr. Robert Malone is on pace for 50 million.

00:05:30.000 It's the number one episode Joe Rogan has ever done, more so than his conversation with Elon Musk, with Kanye West, any conversations he's ever done.

00:05:37.000 So that's happened.

00:05:38.000 And then you have these, you know, the members of the ruling class that are so kind of just self-indicting themselves with Mayor Lori Lightfoot or Alexandria Casio-Cortez.

00:05:49.000 And you have this all happening simultaneously.

00:05:52.000 And you would think that while this is happening, the regime would say, hey, you know, let's kind of let off on the mandates.

00:05:59.000 No, they're only doing more mandates.

00:06:01.000 And there's some places they're letting off, but generally it's only increasing.

00:06:06.000 And there is a realization in the last seven days, this is happening so fast, by the way, that they realize they have to now go from extorting you and exploiting you to now they've shifted gears.

00:06:19.000 They're now covering up.

00:06:20.000 Now they're in the midst of the largest cover-up operation in probably human history.

00:06:26.000 And if you watch the news carefully, you'll see it.

00:06:28.000 You'll see it in changes of the way that Rochelle Walensky is describing COVID deaths.

00:06:33.000 What was once considered a conspiracy that would get Godspeak kicked off of YouTube, such as, you know, there's a difference between dying with COVID and then dying because of COVID.

00:06:42.000 That was once considered to be such an unmentionable conspiracy theory that you'd get kicked off social media is now being said as a fact.

00:06:51.000 And like, of course it is.

00:06:52.000 I mean, come on, it's always been that way because we're the CDC.

00:06:55.000 And like, no, you're not losing your mind.

00:06:57.000 A year ago, they would say you're not even allowed to talk about that.

00:06:59.000 Where Fauci has to come out and correct the record against Justice Sotomayor, who says there's 100,000 kids in the hospital right now with COVID.

00:07:09.000 And Rochelle Walensky comes out and Fauci say, well, it's really like 3,600.

00:07:13.000 And like most of them have like broken arms, legs, knees, hips.

00:07:17.000 And so it's like a couple dozen.

00:07:19.000 So you go, and that the regime never would have corrected one of their own a year ago.

00:07:24.000 It just wouldn't have happened, right?

00:07:25.000 They would have found some way to make that number plausible or digestible to whomever cares.

00:07:30.000 So what's happening right now?

00:07:32.000 And it's very clear.

00:07:34.000 It's that, and we predicted that here on this stage a year ago when everyone was kind of full of doom and gloom.

00:07:40.000 And if you ever want to go kind of revisit an hour of history, just go re-listen to kind of the tour Rob and I did, you know, at this church in Jack Hibbs' church last year where we made a series of predictions.

00:07:51.000 You might remember where I said they're going to overstep.

00:07:54.000 They're not going to slow down.

00:07:56.000 You're going to have to endure 2021.

00:07:58.000 But if we keep the faith, it will then mean that the regime overreaches and it will be the rise of the citizen.

00:08:05.000 And I'm telling you right now that what you're living through is everything that we thankfully predicted because we know the laws of nature and nature's God, as Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration.

00:08:21.000 But also, there is a pattern to the tyrant.

00:08:24.000 There is a rhythm to the autocrat.

00:08:27.000 They're playing off the same blueprint of why Napoleon decided to invade Russia.

00:08:31.000 It's because the enemy does not have the fruit of the spirit self-control.

00:08:34.000 They don't know when to stop.

00:08:35.000 Exactly.

00:08:36.000 And that means it takes what?

00:08:38.000 Perseverance and it takes commitment and steadfastness.

00:08:42.000 And the game has changed in the last 30 days, everybody.

00:08:45.000 It just has.

00:08:46.000 And what do we do about that?

00:08:48.000 Well, we put our foot on the accelerator is what we do.

00:08:52.000 And we don't let up.

00:08:56.000 And they're running for the hills.

00:08:58.000 You could see that.

00:08:59.000 They're trying to change history.

00:09:01.000 They're trying to disengage you from caring.

00:09:04.000 And I think it's a really exciting moment.

00:09:06.000 But honestly, credit to all of you that kept on tithing, that kept on showing up to church, that kept on praying, that kept on fasting, that refused to get the vaccine, even though it might have cost you your job.

00:09:19.000 Every single one of you played a part in what is now all of a sudden the changing and the whole altering of the trajectory towards what 2022, if we do our job, we'll go down as historians and say, wow, that was the unexpected rebirth of the citizen where people wanted to lean in and say, I'm going to take control of my school board.

00:09:40.000 You're not going to tell my kids what to do with education or vaccines or masks.

00:09:45.000 And all of you deserve such credit for that because it's not about one person.

00:09:50.000 It really isn't.

00:09:51.000 And they thought they could make you surrender.

00:09:55.000 They thought you were going to give up.

00:09:57.000 They thought that if they called all of you domestic terrorists, if they put a letter from the National School Board Association that turned into this Department of Justice letter, they thought that if you were going to be threatened with losing your job, that you'd say, find whatever, just put the mRNA vaccine in my, you know, in me and I'll, as long as I got a paycheck.

00:10:15.000 They were shocked, stunned.

00:10:17.000 In fact, they are now demoralized because normal patriotic Americans care about liberty more than just money.

00:10:27.000 That regular patriotic Americans cared more about their children than social currency.

00:10:33.000 And they were so terribly wrong.

00:10:35.000 They misread the room.

00:10:37.000 They misread the public.

00:10:38.000 And we have momentum at this time.

00:10:40.000 Amen.

00:10:44.000 In late August, when they threatened us and they gave us the restraining order and they named me and a thousand congregants.

00:10:50.000 And at the time, our church had maybe 400 people in it.

00:10:52.000 They figured, let's double it and let's just threaten them.

00:10:55.000 And I remember the day we showed up on that Sunday.

00:10:57.000 There was not only the church was not only packed every service, but there were hundreds, if not over a thousand people out front saying, give us the citation.

00:11:05.000 Let them worship freely.

00:11:07.000 It was one of the most moving moments where we realized at that, the lion has no teeth.

00:11:13.000 And so when they came out with the last mask mandate in our county, they named everybody except the church. 0.82

00:11:19.000 You did that.

00:11:20.000 All of you did that.

00:11:26.000 I want to ask you, you posed a question in America Fest that was, and I can't articulate as clearly as you did it, but the response to the question was shocking.

00:11:37.000 And I tried to ask the same question this Sunday in two of the three services, and the response was almost immense.

00:11:43.000 And so for folks watching online, you asked how many people had been affected or knew someone who had been affected by, do you remember?

00:11:51.000 Yeah, so we had an amazing event in Arizona.

00:11:53.000 I'll question tonight if you will.

00:11:54.000 Yeah, I will.

00:11:55.000 So we had an amazing event in Arizona.

00:11:57.000 Thank you guys for coming out.

00:11:58.000 We had 10,000 people there.

00:11:59.000 It was awesome.

00:12:01.000 It was the largest multi-day celebration of America.

00:12:05.000 And next year we planned for it to be even bigger.

00:12:07.000 And I was kicking myself after the first night.

00:12:10.000 I was like, man, I should have asked that question.

00:12:12.000 And I said, wait, it's my conference.

00:12:13.000 I can go out tomorrow and ask the question.

00:12:14.000 So that was kind of cool.

00:12:16.000 And I was super curious.

00:12:18.000 And we did this all across the country.

00:12:20.000 We did this in Alabama or Vermont.

00:12:22.000 And again, it's not even, it's all a slander campaign.

00:12:25.000 It's a psychological operation.

00:12:26.000 It's a psyop operation of you're anti-vax or you're a conspiracy.

00:12:29.000 Yeah, okay, whatever, sure.

00:12:31.000 So instead, I'm just curious.

00:12:33.000 You should want the truth.

00:12:33.000 And you should be too.

00:12:34.000 The truth will set you free.

00:12:36.000 And so I've asked this all across the country with almost very, very predictable results because we're told that the vaccine is 100% safe and effective.

00:12:44.000 Okay.

00:12:45.000 Well, then this is a simple.

00:12:46.000 I want you to listen to this question closely.

00:12:49.000 I want you to hear it.

00:12:50.000 And then I want you to respond accordingly.

00:12:52.000 There's a two-part question.

00:12:53.000 The first part is raise your hand if you or someone you know personally by name has had a serious adverse event to this vaccine.

00:13:03.000 Raise your hand.

00:13:04.000 Okay.

00:13:05.000 That's about half of the hands in the room.

00:13:08.000 Now keep the hands up if you know someone that died from the vaccine.

00:13:12.000 Okay.

00:13:13.000 Now, some people didn't raise their hand the first time.

00:13:15.000 Dying is an adverse event, but we're not going to, we don't single you out.

00:13:20.000 That always happens, by the way.

00:13:21.000 It's so predictable.

00:13:22.000 It's like, yeah, you know, menstrual cycle changes.

00:13:26.000 Yeah.

00:13:26.000 It's like, okay, hold on.

00:13:26.000 Dying.

00:13:28.000 Both are bad, but one is worse.

00:13:30.000 Okay.

00:13:31.000 The point is that I'd say, what, 60% of all the hands went up, Rob?

00:13:36.000 That's a massive scandal, and no one wants to talk about it.

00:13:40.000 And look, I'm sure there's people in this room right now that got the vaccine.

00:13:43.000 I'm not here to tell you you made a bad decision.

00:13:44.000 I'm not here to scare you or fearmonger you.

00:13:46.000 Instead, I'm more interested in why we're not even able to have a conversation around this particular topic.

00:13:53.000 And we know it's never been about the vaccine.

00:13:55.000 It's about social conditioning and try to make you conform to actually taking the vaccine and all the other issues surrounding it.

00:14:03.000 And there's a lot of different dynamics at play here.

00:14:07.000 And again, we're one of the most, despite all the problems with America that we have, despite this, we have had one of the most effective and quite honestly to the ruling class and the globalist elite, inexplicable portion of the population that no matter what they do, won't get the vaccine.

00:14:26.000 Very few countries in the Western world have this, by the way.

00:14:29.000 In Germany, they're up to like 95% of the citizenry that has received at least one dose of the vaccine.

00:14:35.000 France is like 85%.

00:14:37.000 And they just keep on ratcheting up the punishment.

00:14:39.000 And I don't know what the final numbers are.

00:14:41.000 I think there's about 50 to 60 million people that have still not received one dose of the vaccine in America to date.

00:14:47.000 And so, and you have to re this, and it's actually bigger than the vaccine.

00:14:55.000 And we have to realize that because there's a whole menu of societal changes that happened because of one thing we were not allowed to talk about.

00:15:06.000 So let's say part of it is the vaccine and all the new billionaires that we have from BioNTech, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson.

00:15:13.000 That's part of it.

00:15:14.000 Part of it's also mail-in ballots.

00:15:16.000 We got those too, right?

00:15:18.000 Part of it is also kids with masks in schools.

00:15:21.000 We got those too.

00:15:22.000 Part of it is the technological ruling class is wealthier than ever before.

00:15:27.000 A $4 trillion asset transfer from working people to like 10 people, basically.

00:15:35.000 Bezos's net worth went from $88 billion to $200 billion.

00:15:40.000 So all of that is centered on one thing.

00:15:42.000 It's one thing, which is early treatments.

00:15:46.000 If you had early treatments and you were allowed to talk about early treatments and early effective intervention, you don't get mail-in ballots.

00:15:52.000 I want you to think deeply about that, right?

00:15:54.000 All of a sudden, you don't get Georgia going from 250,000 mail-in ballots to 1.2 million ballots.

00:15:59.000 Then you also don't get the vaccine.

00:16:01.000 You don't get the lockdowns.

00:16:02.000 You don't get the kid with masks.

00:16:03.000 You don't get the remote learning.

00:16:04.000 You don't get the blue state bailouts, which also came this last year, hundreds of billions of dollars to broken blue states, such as California that had high taxes, that got subsidized and got the bailout of the century because of the virus.

00:16:17.000 All of it was this choke point of you're not allowed to talk about how higher vitamin D levels are a direct correlation, according to 175 peer-reviewed studies, of whether you have a vitamin D level over 50 of your ability to survive a cytocosine storm, which might happen if you have COVID.

00:16:34.000 Now, let's talk about ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin.

00:16:37.000 And so they choke pointed the early treatment conversation and situation intentionally.

00:16:43.000 And the vaccine is only one part of that, right?

00:16:46.000 It was, how do we change all of civilization?

00:16:48.000 Well, if you have early treatments, you can't get emergency use authorization for the vaccine.

00:16:52.000 If you have early treatments, maybe people aren't afraid to go to the ballot box to go vote and you don't need to go send mail and ballast every direction.

00:16:52.000 That's right.

00:17:00.000 If you have early treatments, maybe you never need to shut down schools.

00:17:02.000 If you have early treatments, so on it's over.

00:17:04.000 Zuckerberg doesn't get $100 billion richer and people don't stare at their screens all day long.

00:17:08.000 And so that's always been the most important aspect of this conversation.

00:17:12.000 Now, you and I both, we're not always where we are now.

00:17:16.000 I mean, I remember my daughter Molly telling me about vaccinations and how she didn't want my grandson and my granddaughter.

00:17:23.000 And I'm saying, look, you're in the Alice in Wonderland rabbit hole on the internet.

00:17:27.000 Get off that thing. 0.97

00:17:28.000 No, Dr. Judy Mike said, she's a nut. 1.00

00:17:30.000 Stay away from that lady. 1.00

00:17:31.000 No, Dr. Forgive me, all right?

00:17:33.000 I've already repented.

00:17:34.000 And I said, I said, you know, Bobby Kennedy Jr.

00:17:38.000 And I said, no, Molly.

00:17:40.000 And then all of a sudden, Tim Thompson hosts Bobby Kennedy at his church.

00:17:43.000 My wife, my daughter go.

00:17:44.000 They come back.

00:17:44.000 You got to watch it.

00:17:45.000 I'm looking at my wife going, honey, come on. 1.00

00:17:46.000 She goes, no, you need to.

00:17:47.000 I'm the head.

00:17:48.000 She's the neck. 1.00

00:17:49.000 I listened.

00:17:50.000 And even you and I talking about it, it wasn't on the forefront of our mind as we're contending across the country.

00:17:57.000 And overnight, it's the most critical thing, it seems as though.

00:18:01.000 Yeah, and it's impacted my personal life in a variety of ways.

00:18:06.000 I just have a couple things: curiosity and also willingness.

00:18:11.000 Two things.

00:18:13.000 And so I really don't like being told what to do.

00:18:15.000 You could add that to the third one, right? 1.00

00:18:17.000 Especially from stupid people, right? 1.00

00:18:18.000 I mean, it's one thing if Rob tells me what to do. 1.00

00:18:21.000 I don't like being told what to do from really dumb people. 0.98

00:18:23.000 It's not something that really excites me. 0.98

00:18:25.000 And so here's some good word to the wise.

00:18:29.000 If you host a podcast and/or radio show and you're about to take an extended break, don't make the vaccine segment the last segment you do before break.

00:18:36.000 Just don't do that.

00:18:38.000 That's bad communication strategy.

00:18:40.000 So that's exactly what I did.

00:18:41.000 Right before I got married, I said, you know, here's a good idea.

00:18:44.000 Let's open up the entire Pandora's box and ask the world all about vaccines, you know, vaccine adverse event reporting system, shut off my computer and go revisit it in 10 days.

00:18:54.000 In some ways, it was actually brilliant. 0.98

00:18:56.000 In other ways, it was so incredibly catastrophically foolish.

00:18:59.000 So I got so fired up because I kept on getting these emails from friends of mine.

00:19:03.000 My dad is perfectly healthy.

00:19:05.000 And he just kind of dropped dead.

00:19:07.000 And we don't know why, got a shot.

00:19:08.000 And I said, oh, come on.

00:19:10.000 What is going on here?

00:19:11.000 And then I saw Dr. Robert Malone for the first time pop up on social media, who I found to be super credible and incredibly articulate.

00:19:20.000 And, you know, I have a pretty good meter of whether or not someone has a grasp of the subject.

00:19:27.000 He has an overgrasp of the subject.

00:19:29.000 He tells you too much, right?

00:19:30.000 When I have him on my show, I said, I got it, okay?

00:19:33.000 He goes into like cellular biology of all 27 amino acids, or Judy would know how many, however there are, I'm under there, right?

00:19:39.000 It's like enough.

00:19:40.000 I got it.

00:19:41.000 But as soon as he started talking, I said, okay, this guy's onto something.

00:19:45.000 So I go to my audience.

00:19:47.000 And again, I used to go to events like this.

00:19:49.000 And God bless some of you that might be in the audience.

00:19:51.000 I used to get the Encyclopedia Britannica handed to me after these events of these mothers that would be so intense and say, Charlie, why don't you ever talk about vaccines?

00:20:02.000 My kid has autism because of it.

00:20:04.000 I was like, yeah, okay, great, fine.

00:20:05.000 Thank you for all these documents.

00:20:06.000 I'm never going to read them.

00:20:07.000 Thanks so much, right?

00:20:08.000 And it just, I kind of, like you, I just kind of dismissed it.

00:20:08.000 Whatever.

00:20:11.000 But then I got really interested as soon as I saw the regime start to push this as much as they did.

00:20:16.000 Okay, so I did this episode.

00:20:17.000 I said, if any of you have ever experienced anything with the vaccine, this is back in May, email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:20:24.000 Thanks so much.

00:20:24.000 See you in a week.

00:20:25.000 Right.

00:20:26.000 I come back to 14,000 emails from every corner.

00:20:31.000 And so, right, I mean, and then I get, you know, the fact checkers.

00:20:35.000 Charlie, you're not a doctor.

00:20:36.000 Okay, I could read.

00:20:38.000 Okay.

00:20:38.000 So after the 700th email that describes the exact same symptoms as the other 700 people that don't know each other from other parts of the country, you might just say there's something going on here.

00:20:52.000 And so I got to be careful the way I say this because I don't want Rob to lose his YouTube channel.

00:20:56.000 I don't.

00:20:57.000 It's actually, because we're streaming and all this.

00:20:59.000 He's sweet, but I consider him.

00:21:00.000 No, no, no.

00:21:00.000 We got to be careful because we have enough martyrs.

00:21:03.000 Okay.

00:21:05.000 So I then got really deep into this and we had Bobby Kennedy on the show.

00:21:11.000 Wait, wait, you called me and said, Can you get Bobby Kennedy?

00:21:13.000 Yeah, I called him up.

00:21:14.000 I said, Rob, can you get Robert Kennedy on the show?

00:21:17.000 And I picked up the phone and I called Dr. Judy.

00:21:20.000 And boom. 0.96

00:21:23.000 The episodes have been seen by millions of people.

00:21:25.000 And we got hit hard by the media.

00:21:27.000 So what?

00:21:28.000 Like, okay, hit me on that too, I guess, because I start asking questions, right?

00:21:31.000 And this is the way they attack you, right?

00:21:33.000 As you notice, I haven't even said anything conclusive tonight on this.

00:21:39.000 But just the fact I am curious or inquisitive, immediately you get smeared as an anti-vaxxer.

00:21:45.000 Like, actually, no, I haven't actually said that.

00:21:48.000 I'm just asking for answers.

00:21:50.000 And if the technology was so good, then you would give me answers without having to smear me, right?

00:21:57.000 For example, I don't doubt the technology of an airplane, right?

00:22:02.000 Flying airplanes all the time.

00:22:03.000 Pretty certain, pretty clear.

00:22:05.000 You could put me in a room, kind of show me the science of aerodynamics, right?

00:22:09.000 David Glanke could walk me through that.

00:22:11.000 It's pretty simple.

00:22:11.000 Like, all right, I'm a believer.

00:22:13.000 When do I board, right?

00:22:15.000 And even with that, some people die in airplanes, very, you know, very few, thankfully, statistically small.

00:22:20.000 So the whole, the whole, the more they smeared me, the more curious I got, quite honestly.

00:22:24.000 But you're starting to see something.

00:22:26.000 I want to kind of connect two things together, which is you're living through right now, and to an untrained eye, you might not see this, but it's my job to go read these degenerate news outlets all day long so you guys can live quiet and peaceable lives.

00:22:40.000 And so I was reading this morning, it's like, wow, that's interesting.

00:22:47.000 CNN, NPR, Huffington Post, as if it's Operation Mockingbird.

00:22:53.000 And if you don't know what that is, it was a CIA operation back in the 60s or 70s, legitimate thing.

00:22:58.000 Every single headline, almost identical.

00:23:00.000 The vaccine may cause serious changes in menstrual cycle.

00:23:04.000 Get the vaccine anyway.

00:23:05.000 It's like, oh, really?

00:23:07.000 And again, there's so many different takes on this.

00:23:10.000 You guys listen to the show, so I don't need to, you know, kind of reiterate it.

00:23:13.000 Almost everyone who's articles are written by men telling women what to do with their bodies.

00:23:16.000 Like, I could just go on for an hour about that.

00:23:18.000 I won't.

00:23:19.000 But it's like you couldn't find a female author at NPR to write this. 0.64

00:23:23.000 You had to go find some like weirdo 55-year-old to tell women what to do with their bodies. 1.00

00:23:27.000 Anyway, separate conversation for a different time.

00:23:30.000 But you're starting to see something.

00:23:33.000 And it's happening at a pace that all of a sudden they're trying to drop little reference points that a year later, they'll be like, oh, no, no, we reported on that.

00:23:42.000 That's not news.

00:23:43.000 Just go back, even though no one really looked at the articles.

00:23:45.000 For example, two weeks ago, there was an article in the Huffington Post in New York Times, you know, stunning increase in myocarditis amongst young boys, right?

00:23:56.000 So what they're trying to do is they're trying to create what's called a drip campaign, where they're creating these little crumbs that prevents a bombshell news story nine months from now.

00:24:07.000 So here's what happens: they'll kind of sneak it out.

00:24:10.000 They'll kind of de-emphasize it.

00:24:12.000 They'll launder the story, right?

00:24:14.000 They'll water it down.

00:24:15.000 This is public relations 101.

00:24:17.000 If you're like a really bad Machiavellian, like atheist, godless person is what you do. 1.00

00:24:22.000 And you write these stories, and then nine months later, when a massive study will come out, let's say out of the Netherlands or out of Greece or Italy that shows one in eight boys or whatever have a problem with XYZ, the media will be like, oh, no, no, we reported on that back nine months ago.

00:24:37.000 That's not a story.

00:24:38.000 We told you that women might have problems with their reproductive systems because of this. 1.00

00:24:43.000 And then it dies.

00:24:44.000 And they've done this with so many different stories, everybody, over the last couple of years.

00:24:49.000 They did this with the Russia story.

00:24:51.000 They did this with the Fusion GPS.

00:24:53.000 They did this with Perkins Cooey.

00:24:55.000 They did this during the Obama administration.

00:24:56.000 They did this.

00:24:57.000 You know what the best example of this is?

00:24:59.000 When they fake report on it, and then they don't have to report on it again.

00:25:02.000 It's the Hunter Biden stuff.

00:25:03.000 The best example.

00:25:05.000 And the even better one is the Hillary Clinton emails, where she kind of did that like fake press conference and then no one talked about the emails ever again.

00:25:12.000 And it's basically, and Obama was the one who created this.

00:25:15.000 Actually, it was David Axelrod.

00:25:17.000 So if you go read Barack Obama's book, Dreams from My Father, it talks extensively about his unrestrained drug usage.

00:25:25.000 And you read this, you're like, why would you put this in your book?

00:25:28.000 Like, oh, you're getting it out there so someone doesn't report on it a couple years later, obviously, in a book that no one's going to read, right?

00:25:33.000 Dreams from My Father, like, hello, no one's going to read that book, except all of your friends, and they'll think it's kind of cool.

00:25:38.000 And then when conservative media went to go report on the fact that Obama used drugs a lot, like, oh, no, no, no, no, we already wrote about that.

00:25:44.000 It's not a story.

00:25:46.000 And that's what's happening right now.

00:25:48.000 Is that you go look at the amount of activity in the last week on reporting on menstrual cycle changes with females?

00:25:57.000 It's stunning.

00:25:57.000 And so, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of different ways we can go at it from that perspective.

00:26:02.000 But look, every single human being has in their heart a yearning for justice.

00:26:08.000 And a three-year-old has it.

00:26:10.000 When you take their toy away, they say, that's not fair.

00:26:12.000 We know what's right.

00:26:13.000 We know what's wrong.

00:26:14.000 And I pray that the rise of a citizen, part of this, will be holding these people to justice and accountable for what they did.

00:26:25.000 Charlie, before we go into some of the questions that folks have taken time to shoot to us, would you share some of the most optimistic things you've witnessed in the last six months that really have moved you and you're watching a seminal change and almost there, you know, this is a pivot point.

00:26:47.000 Three things that show you you're on the right side.

00:26:52.000 And these three things, by the way, have not always been within our movement.

00:26:56.000 And all three are happening simultaneously.

00:26:58.000 All throughout history, if these three things are happening, you know you're about to have a major breakthrough.

00:27:03.000 Number one, when conversations get more local than national, it's a really good sign.

00:27:09.000 Amen.

00:27:10.000 When the circle of what you care about gets smaller, you're on the right side.

00:27:16.000 That show that it's on a variety of different ways, whether it be you care more about the school board than Congress for the time being, where you care more about what's happening in your kids' school or your church or your neighborhood.

00:27:26.000 You see that.

00:27:27.000 The circle of where the participation is happening is getting more and more local.

00:27:31.000 In fact, if you just look at political involvement over the last year, you've seen kind of this rebirth of local interest.

00:27:40.000 That's a great sign.

00:27:41.000 That is a rejection of cynicism and a rebirth, or let's say a recommitment to ownership.

00:27:50.000 Meaning, like, I'm going to do what I can do.

00:27:52.000 And I might not be able to get rid of Eric Swalwell right now, but I will be able to make sure that my child does not wear a mask and does not learn critical race theory.

00:28:05.000 And so that's a really, really good trend.

00:28:12.000 Number two, when there is a recommitment or a desire, I should say, from everybody to learn.

00:28:21.000 We're seeing this in our podcast numbers.

00:28:23.000 Joe Rogan's podcast with Peter McCullough is three hours long with 60 million downloads.

00:28:29.000 Don't tell me that the attention span of the population has disappeared.

00:28:33.000 They have a short attention span for nonsense, but if it's truth, they'll listen to all three hours.

00:28:38.000 They'll show up to church.

00:28:39.000 They'll drive three hours to go to a better church.

00:28:42.000 I reject this whole idea that you've got to fit everything into just 10 seconds or less.

00:28:47.000 That might be true for some TikTok eight-year-old or whatever.

00:28:51.000 Your kid shouldn't be on TikTok.

00:28:52.000 Separate conversation for a separate time.

00:28:54.000 But we see this in our podcast downloads.

00:28:58.000 We see this in our partnership with Hillsdale College for the online courses that we're doing.

00:29:02.000 It's remarkable and it's incredible.

00:29:04.000 And it does pair to the first one.

00:29:06.000 And so the desire to learn, everybody, since the last time I spoke at this church, which was over the summer, 2 million more families have decided to homeschool in America.

00:29:17.000 2 million families.

00:29:25.000 That is a movement they will not be able to stop.

00:29:28.000 And the third thing that I'm seeing that gives me optimism is this relentless, almost annoying kind of non-stop line of emails, questions, text messages of this.

00:29:41.000 What can I do?

00:29:45.000 What can I do?

00:29:46.000 And I'm sure some of you had that same question right now.

00:29:48.000 Thankfully, you have a pastor that actually shows you what you can do.

00:29:51.000 This is a really good sign.

00:29:52.000 It's a great sign that people cannot sit still.

00:29:56.000 That's the winning side, is the side that can't sit still because they do not want to be a spectator.

00:30:02.000 They want to be a participant in what's happening.

00:30:04.000 It's a great sign.

00:30:04.000 That's a good word.

00:30:05.000 And sometimes that energy gets misdirected.

00:30:10.000 Sometimes the energy just kind of goes in a weird direction, or sometimes it goes in a really constructive place.

00:30:17.000 Sometimes it goes in places of people starting new schools, people that are empowering pastors.

00:30:22.000 That kind of anxiety, like, Charlie, I got it.

00:30:24.000 What can we do?

00:30:26.000 It's everywhere.

00:30:27.000 I'm telling you, I travel the country.

00:30:28.000 We have a really good post of what's happening.

00:30:31.000 It's in every corner in every state, in every county of people that are saying, I don't care the cost.

00:30:36.000 I want to do something.

00:30:36.000 So you factor those three things together.

00:30:38.000 It's getting more local.

00:30:40.000 People are diving deeper and want to learn more.

00:30:42.000 And then that kind of restlessness to basically say, I'm not going to sit idly by and entertain this happening without me giving everything I possibly can.

00:30:54.000 And then the final thing that I think I just want to kind of say on all of this is I think that our arguments are getting better.

00:31:03.000 I think that because of the pressure that we have been under from every single corner in every single way, that we have been challenged to dive deeper and research more.

00:31:14.000 And I think this incorporates the second way.

00:31:17.000 But I get stopped sometimes.

00:31:19.000 I was grocery shopping in Scottsdale the other day.

00:31:22.000 And this mom with literally, she had three kids right there.

00:31:24.000 She stops me.

00:31:25.000 She says, Charlie, I need to stop you.

00:31:27.000 It's okay.

00:31:28.000 You know, this could go either way anyway.

00:31:30.000 And she starts asking me about like Jacobson v. Massachusetts in 1905 and how it set a precedent for like misapplication of court rulings of vaccine and medical autonomy.

00:31:42.000 And like the kids are running all over the place.

00:31:45.000 And I'm like, this is like, I've been talking for 30 seconds and she's going to like a super nuanced constitutional issue that she's praying and wondering and researching about.

00:31:55.000 And I thought to myself afterwards, and we talked for like five minutes, it was super interesting.

00:31:59.000 I said, I don't know what that is, but that's a sign we're about to win because that's not normal, right?

00:32:04.000 Like whatever that is.

00:32:08.000 Yeah, that's victory.

00:32:10.000 Okay.

00:32:13.000 All right.

00:32:14.000 But before the folks take over our time together with their questions, I want to say thank you to you for something specific.

00:32:21.000 And you're not one who likes to receive accolades, but this has to happen, Charlie.

00:32:27.000 When I made the decision and the elders made the decision and the staff and my wife and I talked and put it before the congregation to violate the restraining order, the call I got was from you.

00:32:38.000 And you said, Rob, we're going to be with you every step of the way.

00:32:43.000 We got national notoriety because, you know, and I told you this and you actually applied it.

00:32:48.000 Meme them until they cry and then meme them crying.

00:32:54.000 And you brought these tyrants front and center and nationally defended us and every other pastor that stood.

00:33:02.000 Thank you for that.

00:33:04.000 When we stood the second Sunday we were open, that row, second row, this side, Jürgen Metesius and his entire staff from Awaken Church had attended, they were so moved, they went back and opened all their campuses.

00:33:17.000 And of course, we know Greg was with us.

00:33:20.000 He had been open and stayed open in San Marcos.

00:33:23.000 And this is what I want to share with you.

00:33:26.000 You put on AmericaFest.

00:33:27.000 You had some of the greatest country bands, the most amazing political speakers, and you had 10,000 kids.

00:33:34.000 I was just in San Diego at the park in front of City Hall, and there were 12,000 San Diego citizens.

00:33:43.000 There wasn't a big name speaker.

00:33:45.000 They'd asked me to speak.

00:33:46.000 They were desperate.

00:33:49.000 And as we had just pastors, 12,000 people gathered, put on by nurses, firefighters, first responders, frontline.

00:34:01.000 And it was done by churches and their congregants who had been educated.

00:34:06.000 And all of that happened because you realize that the greatest entity remaining in the country is the church.

00:34:13.000 You love the Lord.

00:34:14.000 You love his bride.

00:34:16.000 And in front of all these folks and everyone listening, I just, I want to tell you, Charlie, thank you.

00:34:20.000 You bless you.

00:34:23.000 Thank you, Rob.

00:34:24.000 Thank you.

00:34:27.000 All right.

00:34:31.000 I got myself all choked up on that.

00:34:35.000 This is a great question.

00:34:36.000 I was looking at it earlier.

00:34:37.000 It's a really good question.

00:34:38.000 It says, Charlie, a year ago, you said, just watch the left implode from within and it's happening.

00:34:45.000 What is your thinking about the next two years?

00:34:47.000 And we're coming up to a midterm.

00:34:48.000 So come on.

00:34:51.000 So, yeah, look, I know the left quite well.

00:34:54.000 I've jousted with them in every possible corner of the country from college campuses to the streets of Philadelphia.

00:35:02.000 I know them.

00:35:03.000 And so it wasn't some sort of profound insight that, you know, AOC was going to start barking at Joe Manchin sometime soon.

00:35:11.000 That's happened, right?

00:35:13.000 Their honeymoon phase is over.

00:35:15.000 There is one last gasp of the regime that is a major threat.

00:35:19.000 And it's the last thing they're going to try to do.

00:35:22.000 And that was where the president went all in today.

00:35:25.000 He put every single chip for the final thing that he thinks he's going to get done, which is the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, which would be the nationalization of federal elections and the destruction of any sort of state sovereignty over elections.

00:35:37.000 I know in California, you say, whatever, yeah, fine.

00:35:41.000 Look, it's a major issue.

00:35:42.000 You should care about what happens in Arizona and Georgia and the integrity of state-based elections.

00:35:46.000 And it's a very simple constitutional issue.

00:35:49.000 This is the last legislative fight before what I think Republicans are going to take back the House and possibly the Senate.

00:35:58.000 And so, and so the question is: will Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin go along with this bill?

00:36:11.000 They're framing it as voting rights, which I find to be hilarious because we go through the last election with all of its flaws, right?

00:36:20.000 With all of its problems, mail-in ballots, every direction, all this.

00:36:23.000 And what do they say?

00:36:24.000 Our election system is perfect.

00:36:26.000 It's durable.

00:36:27.000 And if you dare question it, you're a racist.

00:36:30.000 Like, okay, fine. 0.98

00:36:31.000 And then nine months later, we need such serious reforms to our voting that if you do not vote for this, black people will not be able to vote. 0.96

00:36:38.000 I thought you said nine months ago the election was perfect and there's no, which is you want to change our elections or you don't want to change our elections.

00:36:44.000 And so Biden was in Georgia today.

00:36:46.000 He went all in saying he wants a massive, what they call voting rights bill.

00:36:50.000 We know what it is to power grab bill, to nationalization of elections bill.

00:36:54.000 I do not think it's going to succeed.

00:36:56.000 I think it's going to fail by very, very razor-thin margins.

00:37:01.000 And then, yes, if you're asking kind of what I think is going to happen politically, I'll say this personally, not on behalf of Turning Point because we have our educational focus, but kind of the more political focus on this.

00:37:11.000 Is, yeah, I think Republicans are going to probably win a 60, 70, 80, 80 seat majority.

00:37:17.000 I think there's going to be a red wave, the likes of which people have never seen in recent memory. 0.91

00:37:22.000 I think that people are going to look, they're going to look for a political and electoral pressure release valve.

00:37:29.000 And I think you're going to see just a massive change of power.

00:37:33.000 The question is, and should be: what are Republicans going to do if they get power?

00:37:38.000 That's the most important question, right?

00:37:40.000 And so I think that the citizen needs to demand a certain agenda.

00:37:46.000 And I've been saying this on my podcast and my radio show and at every place that I've spoken.

00:37:51.000 And we have to take an active posture here because if we're honest with ourselves, we almost always take a defensive posture, right?

00:37:57.000 Oh, we'll see how they do as long as they're not the other side. 0.99

00:37:59.000 Like, yeah, I get that.

00:38:00.000 Obviously, I don't want Nancy Pelosi to be Speaker of the House. 1.00

00:38:02.000 But also, I want to be realistic about what can be done.

00:38:06.000 And I want to go 10 out of 10.

00:38:08.000 I want to run the table of what can be done and not get excuses that you can't do that just because you don't control all three chambers of Congress.

00:38:16.000 So I, all three chambers of government, two chambers of Congress.

00:38:19.000 I'm not AOC.

00:38:20.000 I do know how many branches of government there are, right?

00:38:23.000 And so the question is: this: what can get done?

00:38:28.000 You're not going to get massive pieces of legislation signed by President Biden.

00:38:32.000 That's just not going to happen, right?

00:38:33.000 But here's what can get done: is day one, we can have a special commission, day one, to find out Anthony Fauci's involvement in gain of function research, what happened to Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:38:47.000 Day one, day one, we can have a select commission into why we gave $85 billion of weapons to the Taliban and who was behind that and why that was even remotely acceptable.

00:39:00.000 Day one, we can have a special select commission on the federal government's involvement on January 6th and what happened on that day and get real answers.

00:39:11.000 Day one, we can look into Hunter Biden's business dealings and the selective prosecution around that.

00:39:17.000 These are things where we say, hey, okay, and day one, we could look into what happened in the 2020 election, Center for Technology of Civic Life that put $400 million into the last election, changing the voting laws and mail-in ballots going in every direction.

00:39:31.000 So here's what the promise needs to be.

00:39:33.000 All right, we know we're not going to get Obamacare repealed.

00:39:36.000 We got it.

00:39:36.000 We know we're not going to balance the budget.

00:39:38.000 We got it.

00:39:39.000 We're not going to be able to build the southern border wall, but we expect you to put up a big fight on that.

00:39:43.000 But here's what we can put points on the board.

00:39:45.000 You give us power.

00:39:46.000 You give Republicans power.

00:39:48.000 And one year later, we're going to give you report after report and commission after commission.

00:39:53.000 We're going to have subpoena after subpoena for answers.

00:39:56.000 And that will be the precursor and put the table for justice.

00:40:00.000 Because here's the thing: I believe if we want to keep this momentum going and the citizen-led movement going, you think our movement is strong and has momentum now?

00:40:09.000 Wait till we start to get answers to these questions.

00:40:11.000 We're at like 1% of 1% of what we actually have a moral obligation to know of what this regime has been doing with all these different sorts of things.

00:40:21.000 Imagine with subpoena power, Jim Jordan being able to subpoena Peter Dasick from EcoHealth Alliance, be able to say, wait a second, why did we approve funding of the Wuhan Institute of Virology with Gain of Function Research?

00:40:31.000 Who knew about it?

00:40:33.000 When did we know that this actually came from a laboratory and not from the Himalayan Mountains?

00:40:37.000 When was it released?

00:40:38.000 And all these different sorts of things, right?

00:40:41.000 And the point is this: the mandate needs to be able to equip you, the people, with information.

00:40:48.000 And then I think we could have, if we play our cards right, a once-in-a-generation coalition that is built.

00:40:54.000 And what did I just do there?

00:40:55.000 I articulated like four or five different issues of veterans that really care about what happened in Afghanistan.

00:41:00.000 And they should, because it's a moral stain on our country what happened there.

00:41:03.000 And by the way, I haven't even gotten into the 2 million people that invaded our country through the southern border this year, the southern border completely wide open.

00:41:11.000 And so what can happen is an information campaign that can put every single sector, every single component of the ruling class on defense and then hopefully build the coalition to get the three branches of the government, you know, filled with then the proper legislative changes that happen there.

00:41:31.000 But we need to be realistic because what the problem is people make promises and then you get cynical.

00:41:37.000 Like, elect me and everything's going to get better.

00:41:39.000 Actually, I'm going to tell you it's actually not going to be true.

00:41:41.000 Okay.

00:41:42.000 Like you give Republicans the House.

00:41:45.000 The best case scenario is you find out how bad things actually are.

00:41:49.000 That's worth it.

00:41:50.000 Amen.

00:41:50.000 Yeah.

00:41:57.000 This question, you and I, even in our own families, we deal with this.

00:42:01.000 The question reads: where can I first point someone to who has absolutely bought into the pro-vaccine, pro-CDC, et cetera, narrative?

00:42:11.000 I would maybe rewrite that question and say, somebody who has bought into the media propaganda as opposed to having access to legitimate information to make an educated decision.

00:42:25.000 Where would you steer somebody?

00:42:26.000 I always say revolver.

00:42:28.000 Yeah, revolver.news is great.

00:42:30.000 We do a lot of, we've gone on a couple limbs on our podcast, and we're really proud to have done that and platformed a lot of that.

00:42:37.000 In my own personal circle, there is one issue that even the most pro-vaccine kind of doctor stops in their tracks, which is, hell on a second.

00:42:46.000 How much money has been spent on public awareness to tell people get their vitamin D levels up?

00:42:50.000 Like, let's just start there.

00:42:51.000 Let's just put, let's just hard stop.

00:42:54.000 Has anyone seen any advertisement ever, any celebrity campaign, like go get vitamin D?

00:42:59.000 And I've said very clearly that you should know your vitamin D level like you know your credit score.

00:43:04.000 If you don't, you've not fully empowered yourself, in my personal opinion, to be able to fight off the side effects or what happens when you get the Fauci coronavirus, right?

00:43:14.000 And so There's hundreds of studies that show this, that once you get your level above 50, I said this earlier, you're in a much better position.

00:43:25.000 And guess who has the lowest vitamin D levels?

00:43:28.000 Elderly people, people that are in nursing homes.

00:43:30.000 And so that would have been very logical.

00:43:33.000 They have no answer to that.

00:43:35.000 None.

00:43:36.000 The science is so good behind vitamin D, it's almost a showstopper.

00:43:41.000 And then you ask yourself the other, in my opinion, I think that we need to go on offense the next nine months, especially this year, as you already see there on defense.

00:43:51.000 And we need to ask the question is, why did you suppress information on early treatments?

00:43:55.000 Why do you suppress information on early treatments?

00:43:58.000 Azithromycin, Qsertin, all these different things.

00:44:01.000 And I would just reinforce this, though, Rob, which is people are afraid.

00:44:08.000 Some people are afraid of taking the red pill.

00:44:13.000 And I love The Matrix. 0.99

00:44:14.000 The new Matrix is garbage, by the way. 0.98

00:44:16.000 It's terrible. 0.99

00:44:16.000 Don't see it. 0.99

00:44:17.000 It was a complete waste of time, money, and the whole thing was awful.

00:44:21.000 I did part of my show today on that.

00:44:23.000 So I just saved you a bunch of money.

00:44:25.000 But I do love the first Matrix.

00:44:27.000 And there is this scene where Morpheus holds up the red pill and the blue pill.

00:44:30.000 You take the blue pill, you can go back to your comfortable life.

00:44:33.000 You take the red pill.

00:44:34.000 I'll show you how deep this rabbit hole goes.

00:44:36.000 And there's something really interesting about that scene where it does beg the question that you have to want to commit to the truth.

00:44:45.000 That's right.

00:44:45.000 And that's what I kind of love about that scene: is that you could almost, and if you pause it, you think deeply about it, it's totally Christianity, by the way, right?

00:44:54.000 Which is, are you comfortable with your sinful life? 0.56

00:44:57.000 Are you comfortable living in the hot tub of lies?

00:45:00.000 And there is something said that some people are really, they're so attached to the Fauci narrative because they're afraid, truly, that if this is not true, what else in my life also simultaneously might not be true?

00:45:12.000 There is a component of that, right?

00:45:14.000 That it's almost as if if this is true, it collapses the whole house of cards.

00:45:21.000 If this is true, maybe the world won't end in 10 years because of man-made climate change, right?

00:45:25.000 Another movie you shouldn't watch.

00:45:26.000 Don't look up.

00:45:27.000 Don't watch that movie.

00:45:29.000 I did a whole review on that too.

00:45:30.000 Separate issue for a different time.

00:45:32.000 If that's not true, maybe all of a sudden America's not a terrible country.

00:45:37.000 Maybe the Constitution is actually awesome.

00:45:39.000 Maybe there is a God and I'm not him.

00:45:40.000 Like all these sorts of things all of a sudden start to be true.

00:45:44.000 And there are some people that no matter what happens, they'll keep on reaching for the blue pill.

00:45:49.000 They'll keep on reaching for the one that will keep them comfortable and sedated.

00:45:53.000 But guess what?

00:45:54.000 We don't need 100%.

00:45:56.000 If we're honest with ourselves, there's always going to be 20 or 30 or 35% of people that will grab the blue pill no matter what.

00:46:02.000 The question is: can we build a coalition of 55, 60, 65% of people that are willing to go on that place that might seem uneasy, the place of taking the red pill, going in the direction of liberty?

00:46:14.000 And I think increasingly the answer is yes.

00:46:18.000 And that's also going to be up for us.

00:46:20.000 And I kid you not, there is a moment that can happen where people have an existential crisis.

00:46:28.000 And it's happening right now in America.

00:46:31.000 This is not a joke.

00:46:32.000 It's a serious psychological problem.

00:46:34.000 It is.

00:46:34.000 Where millions of people right now who have been three times boosted, double mask wearing, done everything they said they're going to do, they still get the virus.

00:46:43.000 And they are asking themselves, basically, where is my place in the universe, right?

00:46:49.000 I thought that if I followed the instructions of the Leviathan, I would get something in return.

00:46:55.000 And we need to be there for those people.

00:46:58.000 I mean this like non-sarcastically and kind of slowly show them like, no, there is a whole world out here of the laws of nature and there is the gospel and there is a God and Fauci is not that person.

00:47:13.000 And you're seeing that.

00:47:14.000 And it's best manifested in the collective kind of freak out of every person on cable television, right?

00:47:21.000 They don't know what to do.

00:47:24.000 And that's also because they've used their tyranny of you and their bullying of you as this kind of open air kind of therapy exercise because they have such unsettled problems in their own soul that they'd rather torture you than actually go find salvation themselves.

00:47:40.000 I'm not kidding.

00:47:40.000 It really is that dark.

00:47:42.000 It is.

00:47:43.000 And so, yeah, to answer the question, what do we do?

00:47:46.000 We can lead people to truth.

00:47:48.000 Hopefully they accept it and they take it.

00:47:50.000 But I'm optimistic.

00:47:51.000 With all that being said, I really believe that the wind is at our back in this regard.

00:47:56.000 I would also say Children's Health Defense, also the Defender.

00:48:03.000 I go to Revolver News.

00:48:05.000 There's great sites.

00:48:06.000 That's where I get the VERES data, 21,000 deaths from this shot, which is there's been no more than 200 vaccine deaths reported by VARES since 1990 in a given year.

00:48:16.000 Now there's 21,000 on this thing.

00:48:18.000 I mean, come on, wake up. 1.00

00:48:19.000 Are you that stupid? 1.00

00:48:20.000 And we don't know. 1.00

00:48:21.000 I mean, some speculate that number is low.

00:48:23.000 Oh, by over 95%.

00:48:25.000 Yeah.

00:48:26.000 And more, actually.

00:48:27.000 You're just going to lose the YouTube channel, Rob.

00:48:28.000 I'm sorry.

00:48:29.000 I tried my best.

00:48:30.000 We're done.

00:48:30.000 Whatever.

00:48:31.000 Just, yeah.

00:48:34.000 Tried.

00:48:37.000 We have enough martyrs, Rob.

00:48:41.000 Charlie, you carry it all.

00:48:43.000 All right.

00:48:44.000 Yeah.

00:48:44.000 I'll stay with our 8,000 on Rumble.

00:48:48.000 Rumble.

00:48:52.000 Thank you, though.

00:48:52.000 I know you care.

00:48:55.000 Project Veritas published documents today implicating Fauci and gain of function research.

00:49:00.000 I didn't hear about that.

00:49:02.000 I took a long nap today.

00:49:03.000 That's probably why.

00:49:04.000 How do we more effectively get this message out?

00:49:06.000 Can we do it?

00:49:07.000 Or did they already show us down?

00:49:08.000 No, this is fine to talk about.

00:49:11.000 So it's a really complicated, it's somewhat of a complicated story, but it really isn't.

00:49:17.000 Peter Dasick runs EcoHealth Alliance, which is kind of the public-private liaison that goes between the federal government, receives money, and does kind of the dirty work for research.

00:49:25.000 They went to DARPA, which is a place, the defense something, I can't remember the acronym, but the place to get funding.

00:49:32.000 They got rejected for funding, saying that it was way too risky.

00:49:36.000 It was a $14.2 million proposal.

00:49:39.000 And they said, hold on, what you want to go do in Wuhan or mainland China is way too risky.

00:49:44.000 Like, we're not going to support this at all whatsoever.

00:49:46.000 And it was this incredible document that was written.

00:49:50.000 And basically, then the year after, Fauci approved it anyway with his own budget.

00:49:55.000 It was like, yeah, we're going to go do this regardless of all the cautionary documents that DARPA put forward.

00:50:02.000 There was also another document that James O'Keefe put forward.

00:50:06.000 And I say this non-sarcastically.

00:50:08.000 We now know why the FBI raided his apartment.

00:50:10.000 I mean, like, let's just be honest.

00:50:12.000 He's the most effective journalist in the last 20 years.

00:50:16.000 He's incredible.

00:50:17.000 He really is.

00:50:20.000 You should have him out to your church.

00:50:22.000 I kid you not.

00:50:22.000 I invited him.

00:50:24.000 And we'll help arrange it.

00:50:26.000 I've known James for years.

00:50:27.000 He has only gotten tougher and better.

00:50:30.000 He's extraordinary.

00:50:31.000 And I have him on my show often because so many conservative outlooks don't want to touch him because they consider him to be too controversial.

00:50:37.000 He's also the guy that blew the whistle on Pfizer.

00:50:39.000 Remember that the vaccine was created using aborted fetal cells.

00:50:43.000 He has the verifiable proof on that, despite what the Catholic Church says.

00:50:47.000 Despite that, he has the proof on that.

00:50:49.000 You guys can check it out.

00:50:50.000 I think it's projectveritas.org is his website.

00:50:52.000 I always want to plug it because he's such a courageous patriot.

00:50:56.000 And I could go through his best hits.

00:50:57.000 I mean, you know the stories, one after the other, after the other.

00:51:01.000 It's extraordinary.

00:51:03.000 So the question is, how do we get this information better out?

00:51:06.000 This is one of the reasons why I'm optimistic.

00:51:08.000 I'm optimistic also because our elected officials, I'm a huge critic of most Republicans that go to DC.

00:51:17.000 You guys know that.

00:51:18.000 But do you know that two senators, 12 hours after James O'Keefe dropped that, mentioned that in their questioning of Fauci today?

00:51:25.000 It's like that quick.

00:51:26.000 Like, that's really responsive, right?

00:51:29.000 That shows that there's a change in how Senate staffers are receiving information, how they're holding elected, how they're holding unelected bureaucrats accountable.

00:51:37.000 That just so you know, five years ago, that would have taken weeks of convincing and persuading to get one senator to take James O'Keefe seriously to ask Fauci about it.

00:51:47.000 In this 12 hours or less, all of a sudden you had senators pressing Fauci about these documents, and that's a total change, everybody.

00:51:54.000 What that shows is that all of a sudden, it doesn't have to be published in the New York Times or the Washington Post to all of a sudden be deemed trustworthy or credible for cross-examination for a U.S. senator to mention it.

00:52:12.000 So, I think the information is already getting out in a lot of different ways.

00:52:16.000 And by the way, you mentioned Rumble.

00:52:17.000 This is another reason why I'm optimistic.

00:52:19.000 I was here last, when I was here last year, I keep referencing it because it's important.

00:52:23.000 We forget how dark things looked a year ago.

00:52:25.000 We really do.

00:52:26.000 And one of the things, I mean, let's just remember what happened a year ago.

00:52:29.000 Trump was off social media.

00:52:30.000 They kicked him off Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.

00:52:32.000 Look at a year later.

00:52:33.000 A year later, Rumble is growing at a massive pace and has now gone public and looks like it's going to be a multi-billion dollar company, completely untouchable.

00:52:43.000 Getter, G-E-T-T-R, Tucker Carlson, and Joe Rogan are now part of Getter as a Twitter competitor.

00:52:49.000 And Trump is coming out with Truth Social in the next couple weeks, which will be its own multimedia competitor.

00:52:54.000 That's all happened in a year, everybody.

00:52:56.000 In one year, all of a sudden, you have all of those.

00:52:59.000 And so, what that, and this is so typical of the technocratic authoritarian left.

00:53:06.000 They got in a huddle.

00:53:07.000 They say, hey, you know what?

00:53:08.000 Let's go take Trump's Twitter account away, and that will stop this whole movement. 0.94

00:53:13.000 And that's actually what they thought, right?

00:53:15.000 And in reality, it actually made us stronger.

00:53:18.000 It made us invest in companies quicker.

00:53:20.000 It made us go take more risks.

00:53:23.000 It made us go support new companies in ways.

00:53:26.000 Yeah, it made us anti-fragile, right?

00:53:28.000 So you ask yourself, what is the opposite of fragile?

00:53:32.000 It isn't durable.

00:53:33.000 It's an anti-fragile thing.

00:53:35.000 And so something that is anti-fragile is something that gets stronger the more you attack it.

00:53:41.000 Something that's durable is something that can survive an attack.

00:53:44.000 An anti-fragile thing is that the more you attack it, all of a sudden your ranks increase and you actually increase force equals mass times acceleration.

00:53:53.000 Velocity, right?

00:53:54.000 So you look at the conservative movement right now, or whatever you want to call it, freedom movement, American movement, fill in the blanks, right?

00:54:00.000 It is the ultimate kind of Newtonian physics moment in a variety of different ways.

00:54:08.000 Number one, for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

00:54:12.000 Yeah, you're not going to be able to call half the country terrorists and not expect a reaction to that.

00:54:19.000 For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

00:54:21.000 Okay.

00:54:22.000 An option at rest will stay at rest until moved upon.

00:54:25.000 That's like the president, right?

00:54:26.000 So just kind of sits around and does nothing.

00:54:29.000 And so the third thing, force equals mass times acceleration, right?

00:54:33.000 I thought I was going to get a kick off of you.

00:54:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:54:35.000 Well, that's still safe harbor, Rob.

00:54:37.000 Don't worry.

00:54:38.000 So force equals mass times acceleration, which is otherwise known as velocity or momentum, right?

00:54:45.000 Which is, so the mass of our movement is increasing.

00:54:49.000 Our numbers are increasing.

00:54:51.000 And the speed at which we are moving is also increasing.

00:54:55.000 That is a leading indicator, a harbinger, a canary in the coal mine of all of a sudden that the more that they throw at us, it actually increases our own equation.

00:55:07.000 And it's the opposite because you have to understand, you put the hat on.

00:55:11.000 Like, imagine if you're Zuckerberg or Bezos, you're one of these people, and you're sitting at their little summit, and they're like, all we have to do is call them terrorists and kick them off social media and, you know, malign them and indict, you know, them, and raid Rudy Giuliani's apartment and raid James O'Keefe's apartment and do all these different things, and they're going to back down.

00:55:33.000 And the opposite was true.

00:55:35.000 Yeah.

00:55:36.000 Amen.

00:55:42.000 The question is six words, but I'm going to add into it because you were talking about James O'Keefe and how he's the finest reporter and journalist in America.

00:55:52.000 He is.

00:55:53.000 This next question is: when is the next America Fest?

00:55:57.000 But before you answer that, I want to tell you the most profound photograph from America Fest.

00:56:05.000 I got choked up.

00:56:07.000 I looked at it.

00:56:08.000 I was crying.

00:56:10.000 And it was Joseph, Pastor Joseph Bondarenko laying hands on James O'Keefe.

00:56:16.000 And you think that that's going to not be a real good media moment.

00:56:21.000 James O'Keefe put that on his social media.

00:56:25.000 It moved him so much.

00:56:28.000 This is a guy that, you know, he's not a real solid church going.

00:56:32.000 He was so moved by this.

00:56:34.000 And these streams of liberty are coming to this place where we're understanding that the Lord is the source.

00:56:41.000 And James got it that day.

00:56:42.000 And I was so blessed by that.

00:56:43.000 Amen.

00:56:44.000 And look, there's only a couple of people that I would put on the A team right now that are really out there and paying a price and pushing forward for truth and pushing forward for liberty.

00:56:57.000 James O'Keefe would be one.

00:56:59.000 Tucker Carlson would be one.

00:57:02.000 Joe Rogan would be one.

00:57:04.000 Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Malone, that whole kind of group of doctors.

00:57:08.000 And that's not an exhaustive list, right?

00:57:10.000 Candace Owens is incredible.

00:57:11.000 Dennis Prager is incredible.

00:57:12.000 I could go through the list.

00:57:14.000 But it is important, Rob, and this is what we try to do at America Fest, is we're very careful about who we invite to speak because we just don't want to invite people to speak that are just all talk and no action.

00:57:24.000 We really want to invite people to speak and platform them on the largest stage, literally the largest stage in the conservative movement.

00:57:30.000 If you see it, it's a 300-foot stage.

00:57:31.000 It's phenomenal.

00:57:32.000 Yeah, and the Lord.

00:57:33.000 I was exhausted walking through the forest.

00:57:34.000 Yeah, it's a workout.

00:57:35.000 It's a half mile just to be able to get to the podium.

00:57:40.000 Which it was a celebration of people that fought this last year.

00:57:43.000 And one of the two communities that we celebrated an opening night were moms and dads that show up to school board meetings and families that have just recently made the commitment to homeschool.

00:57:54.000 And those are people that don't always get mentioned on your nightly broadcast that are going to make a profound and lasting and meaningful impact in the fight for liberty.

00:58:02.000 Amen.

00:58:03.000 So when is the next America Festival?

00:58:05.000 Oh, it's coming up next December, but we have a ton of events in the meantime.

00:58:09.000 We have our campus tour.

00:58:10.000 We have our church tour coming.

00:58:12.000 We're starting turning point groups all across the country.

00:58:15.000 If you guys aren't involved with Turning Point USA, if you're a student or a college or high school student, you guys could get involved.

00:58:21.000 TPUSA.com.

00:58:22.000 We're here to help you.

00:58:23.000 We're starting almost a chapter a day.

00:58:26.000 It's an unbelievably exciting moment in time, what we're experiencing on the grassroots level.

00:58:31.000 Now, I know you got tons to do, and you got to get back to Phoenix.

00:58:35.000 You're waiting to do it tonight, but it's about 20 minutes.

00:58:37.000 Well, I want to have Joseph pray for us, but I also would you recognize, because we had, I think, four booths of some Turning Point folks that are here.

00:58:44.000 Let's have them stand up. 1.00

00:58:45.000 Are there any Turning Point kids here?

00:58:46.000 Turning Point chapter leaders are here somewhere.

00:58:48.000 Are you guys?

00:58:49.000 Are they out there, man, in their booths?

00:58:50.000 Stand up.

00:58:51.000 Give it up.

00:58:51.000 These are heroes.

00:58:52.000 Give it up for them.

00:59:04.000 It's awesome.

00:59:05.000 That segues to that question.

00:59:06.000 Yeah, it is a good segue to this next question.

00:59:09.000 Bless you guys.

00:59:10.000 We go to California Lutheran, Cal Lutheran here in Thousand Oaks, and the small woke percentage of kids at our school continue to bully us for our beliefs, and we're silenced by the school.

00:59:21.000 How do we fight back?

00:59:21.000 Because they took out the turning point chapter.

00:59:23.000 Yeah, I believe it.

00:59:25.000 And so I'm going to first say what I say to every turning point group that goes through this, which is basically get used to it.

00:59:36.000 You're going to get persecuted for the rest of your life as long as you stand for these beliefs and these ideas.

00:59:41.000 Count it all joy.

00:59:42.000 And count it all joy.

00:59:43.000 And that you are persecuted for truth.

00:59:46.000 And that's really what you're experiencing, what's happening.

00:59:49.000 Now, there's ways to fight back.

00:59:51.000 Just organizing and doing what you're already doing is so incredibly important.

00:59:55.000 And not allowing them to weaken your spirit.

00:59:58.000 There is an effort to try to deaden the human spirit right now.

01:00:01.000 Do not give them that victory.

01:00:03.000 So just because you can't have the group, still have the group, still recruit, still meet.

01:00:08.000 You do pay tuition of the school.

01:00:10.000 And whether it's an official group or not, right?

01:00:12.000 So what?

01:00:13.000 Just keep on pushing back against that.

01:00:15.000 And I do want to...

01:00:17.000 Well, I was just going to say, folks, would you help these kids?

01:00:21.000 And would everyone in this room please write a letter to the president of the Cal Lutheran and tell them that that is unacceptable in this community?

01:00:28.000 Totally.

01:00:29.000 That's exactly right.

01:00:31.000 And, you know, I've been pretty harsh at times towards parents that put up with their kids going through this.

01:00:41.000 But I have to say, I've seen a change.

01:00:42.000 I really have in the last six months.

01:00:44.000 While I do, I am upset at times that parents put up with this too much.

01:00:49.000 I've seen a massive change of parents that have basically intervened and they say no more.

01:00:55.000 And it is changing at a very, very rapid rate.

01:00:58.000 But the other thing that I would counsel our turning point USA students is understand that the decision to be involved in the freedom movement, you can either allow it to make you stronger or it can make you more cynical.

01:01:13.000 You have to make one of those two decisions.

01:01:15.000 And it's hard.

01:01:15.000 It's hard to say, you know what?

01:01:17.000 Yeah, I'm going to get involved in this and I'm going to be persona non grata and hated on social media and called all these awful names.

01:01:24.000 And, you know, this is a new phenomenon for a lot of people that basically grew up in a different America.

01:01:30.000 Now, I'm going to say this.

01:01:31.000 We were joking around about this earlier.

01:01:33.000 I have to be so careful the way I say this because there's only one portion of the American population that I am not allowed to talk about.

01:01:40.000 There's only one portion of the American public that can't receive criticism, feedback.

01:01:45.000 Instead, I get more angry emails, more people screaming in my face than ever before.

01:01:49.000 And that's baby boomers, obviously. 0.90

01:01:51.000 I'm one of those.

01:01:52.000 I'm one of those.

01:01:53.000 I get booze.

01:01:54.000 It's true.

01:01:55.000 It's unbelievable.

01:01:56.000 So, okay, the best generation ever, obviously, never did anything wrong.

01:02:02.000 I get that out of the way.

01:02:03.000 Look, I'm not.

01:02:05.000 I'm sure there's so many wonderful baby boomers out there.

01:02:07.000 Rob's one.

01:02:08.000 Okay.

01:02:09.000 Let me just say something and please accept it.

01:02:11.000 Again, I get a lot of angry emails.

01:02:14.000 This pales in comparison to the controversy.

01:02:16.000 I even say the term baby boomer.

01:02:18.000 I get a tsunami, like you wouldn't believe.

01:02:21.000 You have no idea.

01:02:22.000 We're the best.

01:02:23.000 I'm like, okay, geez, I can show you this email.

01:02:25.000 Anyway, so look, baby boomers know nothing but things getting better. 1.00

01:02:31.000 And it's called, I mean, you could call it the ego, the embedded growth obligation.

01:02:37.000 And yeah, just kind of a happenstance acronym.

01:02:42.000 I don't know how it works.

01:02:43.000 So, but let's just be honest, right?

01:02:45.000 Which is that this generation is living in a completely different country than you grew up in.

01:02:50.000 I'm not blaming you for it, but you definitely played a role, right?

01:02:53.000 And it's very simple.

01:02:56.000 It's that, no, no longer do you just are able to go to college and make friends if you have a dissident or contrarian opinion.

01:03:03.000 They will destroy you.

01:03:05.000 You grew up in a different America than that.

01:03:07.000 Longer are you able to graduate from college and go take out a loan to go buy a home?

01:03:12.000 Have you seen what a down payment is in any respectable neighborhood?

01:03:14.000 Recently we're creating a nation of renters and yeah, it really is kind of this idea.

01:03:21.000 It's this massive generational problem, and I do think this actually can be solved rather constructively, because I do see more and more boomers realizing like yeah, this is not cool, what we've done to young people and the lockdowns were the greatest example of this explain to me a more generationally unwise measure than to lock down schools because you're afraid they might give it to an older person.

01:03:44.000 Like seriously, think how perverted that is right.

01:03:48.000 Like i'm going to destroy a nine-year-old's life because they could be a super spreader in my community.

01:03:54.000 Like, oh well, you had the privilege of open schools when you, when you were nine-year-old.

01:03:57.000 Don't rob that privilege of another nine-year-old.

01:03:59.000 But we did right and so I say this with all possible due respect that there needs to be this admission from the elder generation, especially that the game has changed and that the rules have are completely thwarted, and the one that I just want to make sure I reinforce.

01:04:18.000 That goes to this thing, which is that if you are a Christian or a conservative, you become so socially ostracized that if you were an avowed supporter of Isis, you would be better respected by the administration, and I am not exaggerating.

01:04:33.000 I am not exaggerating that if you made a defense of the Islamic state, rebuilding the Caliphate in the Middle East, you'd be given a higher and more respected intellectual platform than turning point USA or the conservative movement. 0.64

01:04:46.000 So I just want to make that point.

01:04:47.000 But I also think that as I say that lovingly to boomers if boomers turned a switch, they could change this whole game in an instant. 0.51

01:04:53.000 Amen, they are so massive, there's so many of them.

01:04:56.000 Well, the boomerang, the boomers in this church have no, i'm saying there's no, but it the the, the generational size of the baby boomers is unbelievable.

01:05:09.000 Um, it is.

01:05:10.000 It's 85 to 100 million, somewhere between there, and so it basically needs me to say, okay, we've made our money, we've done a good job.

01:05:17.000 What do we have to do to pass down liberty for future generations?

01:05:21.000 That's all that needs to be said.

01:05:22.000 Right and again, it could be done without blame with all that, but there there is something to be said about the hyper defensiveness, because look, those of us that are millennials.

01:05:31.000 All we get all day long is insults. 1.00

01:05:33.000 You guys are lazy, you are dumb, you are stupid, you don't work, and all this, by the way, if you say anything bad about baby boomers, you're a terrible person like what? 1.00

01:05:40.000 Like, all we get is generational criticism all day long. 1.00

01:05:43.000 I think there that the our and, by the way, if we don't address this, this is more of like kind of the pessimistic take after me, because mostly been optimistic longer term.

01:05:53.000 Just so we're clear.

01:05:54.000 If you think Bernie Sanders is radical, I could run right now.

01:05:58.000 I could run as a socialist.

01:06:00.000 That would win 70 of the vote.

01:06:02.000 They're just not describing it right.

01:06:03.000 They're not.

01:06:04.000 They're all just they're so.

01:06:05.000 They're so kind of hypnotized by their own literature.

01:06:09.000 All you have to do to go to young people is say, you've been scammed.

01:06:12.000 You can't buy a home.

01:06:13.000 Your parents could.

01:06:14.000 You've been scammed.

01:06:15.000 You have to stare at screens.

01:06:16.000 Your parents had a life.

01:06:16.000 You can't.

01:06:17.000 You've been scammed, you can't.

01:06:18.000 And i'm telling you, you would create a legitimate wealth transfer movement that would jeopardize the American way of life, like.

01:06:24.000 So if we don't get this right, I mean, if you think aoc is radical, wait till you see what comes next, because if you have a kid that studied North African lesbian poetry or whatever they study nowadays in the Academy, has 150 000 in debt, has to rent in West La at three thousand dollars a month.

01:06:43.000 All of a sudden they're gonna say, you know what?

01:06:45.000 I'll go vote for the radical guy that says he's gonna go raid the baby boomers pockets because I have nothing. 0.97

01:06:50.000 Be careful we don't get this right.

01:06:52.000 Our politics are about to get a lot more radical.

01:06:54.000 I'm just warning you what That last part was like, well, in spite of the events, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

01:07:07.000 I'm just, I figured I had to, I got you.

01:07:11.000 I had to contribute something catastrophic.

01:07:13.000 We've been so kind of strangely positive tonight.

01:07:17.000 You know, Charlie, when Michelle, and both of us are boomers, when Michelle and I, well, actually, she's not.

01:07:21.000 I'm the last, 64 is the last generation boomer.

01:07:24.000 When we looked at what it was going to cost us to stand in opposition to the restraining order.

01:07:30.000 And we, and I've told the congregation this, but we just laid out the list and nothing on that list was more valuable to us than liberty for our children and our grandchildren.

01:07:38.000 So once you've surrendered it all, you're never afraid of them.

01:07:41.000 There's nothing that they can take from you and the fear goes away.

01:07:44.000 And I think if the boomers are going to lead in this revolution of liberty, it's going to have to be the realization that we have lived a life of materialism and now we get to live a life of sacrifice for the next generation. 0.91

01:07:58.000 Amen.

01:07:58.000 I mean, you look at it, and one of the reasons why the boomer mindset is kind of difficult to change is because built into the kinetic memory of their upbringing was every year getting better, was post-Carter, post-1980.

01:08:17.000 There was growth, wealth, opportunity, and pure meritocracy in America for 27 years till the 2008 financial crisis.

01:08:25.000 It was almost uninterrupted life improvement materially.

01:08:30.000 And I just want to say then, you go tell young people, hey, just go work harder.

01:08:34.000 Oh, really?

01:08:34.000 You shut down the country for a year.

01:08:36.000 What job was I supposed to do?

01:08:37.000 And then all of a sudden, I was able to get a job and everything cost twice as much, right?

01:08:41.000 You can kind of see how that kind of breeds some kind of generational tension.

01:08:44.000 But I do think that the boomers are our hope. 0.97

01:08:47.000 I really do.

01:08:48.000 One thing the boomers possess that the other generations don't is we remember what America. 0.74

01:08:53.000 That's exactly right, and this is a very important point, which is which is why I think the the pivot and the reversal can happen, which is why you're seeing so many people that were traditionally liberals in that generation be like, hold on a second.

01:09:06.000 They're taking on statues of Thomas Jefferson.

01:09:08.000 What right, like the Biden regime is calling in their stimulus bill.

01:09:13.000 They're calling people who have birth, birthing people, not mothers, just so you know, like and for for, for an for a certain generation.

01:09:20.000 That's even a bridge too far.

01:09:21.000 So I think that there's a great amount of hope there.

01:09:22.000 I really do.

01:09:23.000 I don't even know how to ask this question because I don't even know what Vosh and bread tubers are.

01:09:27.000 So take it, YouTubers, YouTubers.

01:09:29.000 Okay.

01:09:30.000 I don't think that nobody, that's, that's, he's young.

01:09:34.000 He knows what he's doing back there.

01:09:36.000 No, it's, should we engage and debate with opposing views online?

01:09:40.000 If so, what talking points should we watch out for?

01:09:43.000 I do a fair amount of debates.

01:09:45.000 We have a whole show at Turning Point USA called Debate Night with Charlie Kirk.

01:09:48.000 It's hard to find people to debate me.

01:09:50.000 We have a whole team that's dedicated to non-stop, I kid you not, reaching out to people on the left.

01:09:55.000 It's a nonstop thing.

01:09:56.000 We probably get one in 200 to agree, right?

01:10:00.000 And so you can draw your own conclusions there.

01:10:02.000 But yeah, that's a frustration.

01:10:05.000 To the great credit of a couple people, they have come out and they've been really respectful.

01:10:10.000 I think we've been respectful of them.

01:10:11.000 And the content's been terrific and really educating of people, kind of chomping at the bit to kind of have a COVID debate really soon.

01:10:18.000 That would be really fun, given a lot of what's happened.

01:10:21.000 But yeah, look, I am a big believer in a couple things, that every single one of you and everyone watching online and everyone listening to this podcast, because we're going to re-air this as a podcast, is you should lean into the disagreeable conversations.

01:10:34.000 You should not stray away from them.

01:10:35.000 They're so critically important.

01:10:37.000 And for no other reason than you really don't have a civilization as soon as those stop.

01:10:41.000 As soon as those stop, you basically have already kind of siphoned yourself off.

01:10:46.000 And that's not to say you have to argue with unreasonable people.

01:10:49.000 But I guarantee you that if every one of you went home tonight and you thought there's one reasonable person that doesn't yet see the light, really focus on that person.

01:10:56.000 So what's the best way to do it?

01:10:57.000 Ask questions.

01:10:59.000 Ask them questions.

01:11:00.000 Why do you believe that?

01:11:01.000 What backs that up?

01:11:02.000 Has that ever worked before?

01:11:04.000 Why are people that are fully vaccinated and boosted and wearing masks all day long getting the virus?

01:11:08.000 Does that make you question anything else?

01:11:10.000 You know, have you ever heard of vares?

01:11:12.000 Is that data high or low?

01:11:14.000 Like, these are really interesting questions, right?

01:11:16.000 And they have, and really quickly, they might immediately start to call you a name or try to get into the core, the kind of core logical fallacies of dismissal, arguments from authority, red herrings, all these different things.

01:11:31.000 Just keep your calm.

01:11:32.000 And remember, when you have these debates, everybody, it's more about style than substance.

01:11:37.000 You heard me right.

01:11:39.000 You might say, Charlie, is it more about substance?

01:11:41.000 If you are screaming at somebody and pounding the table about the declaration and the truths, it doesn't matter what you just said.

01:11:41.000 No, no, no, no.

01:11:51.000 It's important to get substance.

01:11:52.000 Get me wrong.

01:11:52.000 Never say anything that's untrue.

01:11:54.000 But if you are loving and if you are compassionate and if you have the lower heart rate than the person you're talking to, you have a far better chance of actually persuading them.

01:12:03.000 So here's something you need to ask yourself the question of.

01:12:05.000 No, it's very important.

01:12:07.000 Do you want to convince them or do you want to win the argument?

01:12:12.000 Because they're not the same thing most of the time.

01:12:15.000 Now, that doesn't mean you have to lose the argument.

01:12:17.000 The question is, what does winning look like?

01:12:20.000 Is it getting the better point or convincing them that you might have something to offer?

01:12:25.000 Those are two totally different things.

01:12:26.000 Now, for me, if I'm debating somebody and it's filmed, I'm thinking about the people at home.

01:12:33.000 I couldn't care less about what some mope professor has to say about atheism, right? 0.98

01:12:33.000 Totally different, right? 0.98

01:12:37.000 Whatever.

01:12:38.000 Or Seth Gruber helped me get prepared for that pro-abortion argument.

01:12:43.000 He's got a lot of problems, right?

01:12:44.000 And you guys can watch that debate.

01:12:45.000 I was thinking about the millions of people that watched the debate, and literally millions of people watch the debate.

01:12:49.000 But most of you guys aren't doing film debates, right?

01:12:52.000 Most of you guys are at Thanksgiving tables or dinner tables and you're having these really serious conversations.

01:12:57.000 Don't try to win.

01:12:58.000 Try to convince them because that's what winning actually is in that scenario.

01:13:02.000 Amen.

01:13:04.000 Let's close with this last one.

01:13:06.000 And then we'll have Joseph come up.

01:13:08.000 And I like this because this is kind of along the lines of our Galatians 3.

01:13:12.000 Yeah.

01:13:13.000 How do we think non-Christians or non-religious conservatives can be better included in spaces to help fight for freedom?

01:13:23.000 Yeah.

01:13:24.000 You know, at Turning Point USA, we're an organization filled with Christians, but we are secular in the sense we have people of all different religious backgrounds and denominations that are part of our organization because we're trying to build a coalition for liberty.

01:13:36.000 With that, we also have a massive church outreach program that we're proud of that Rob helps run.

01:13:40.000 Look, I think that there's a couple things happening here.

01:13:44.000 I will say that in the conservative movement, there is a rather unexpected re-embracing of really recognizing that our rights come from God and understanding that there is a greater game being played here.

01:14:00.000 Rob, you would agree that even going to quote-unquote secular events, there's more mentions of God and eternal principles than almost ever before.

01:14:09.000 Absolutely.

01:14:09.000 But look, I know plenty of secular conservatives.

01:14:12.000 And I will say this, that many of them are becoming increasingly sympathetic.

01:14:17.000 That without religion and the order that it might give you in life, without the community, without the church, without a belief in things that are always true, that there is a massive vacuum that is created.

01:14:30.000 Even secular conservatives are starting to admit the utilitarian argument of religion.

01:14:35.000 It's so overwhelmingly true. 0.94

01:14:37.000 But look, I say this all the time.

01:14:39.000 I have friends that are atheist conservatives, and I give them a hard time, obviously, on a lot of different things.

01:14:44.000 They give me a hard time.

01:14:45.000 I'll give you one in particular.

01:14:47.000 I won't even call myself a conservative.

01:14:48.000 He's a good friend.

01:14:49.000 He's super smart.

01:14:51.000 Peter Bogosian, who is friends with James Lindsay, who came here to this church.

01:14:55.000 He's an atheist.

01:14:57.000 But you won't find someone who is a bigger, who is more committed to finding absolute truth and defeating wokeism and CRT.

01:15:05.000 And I mean, you look at James Lindsay.

01:15:07.000 James Lindsay is as close as I think one could be at basically almost saying that there might could almost actually be a God.

01:15:15.000 Like, you know, he's almost there.

01:15:16.000 Seriously, would you agree, Rob?

01:15:17.000 I agree.

01:15:18.000 And I don't want to speak for him.

01:15:19.000 And two years ago, that would have been unthinkable for him.

01:15:22.000 So I think we need to.

01:15:24.000 I think we need to involve all people, but I don't think we have to compromise either.

01:15:28.000 I think that deep down people want to be led towards things that are eternally true.

01:15:34.000 And here's what's so amazing is that at Turning Point USA, we have those 10,000 people there.

01:15:39.000 You know, we have no religious tests to get in.

01:15:41.000 One of the most attended things was our 7 a.m. religious worship service where we had 3,500, 4,000 people show up for that.

01:15:50.000 There's something special happening here, truly, and hundreds of people giving their lives to Christ.

01:15:56.000 And so it's, I think that that's an important dynamic there.

01:16:00.000 That's a good word.

01:16:04.000 I'm done with questions.

01:16:05.000 Do you want me to just kind of summarize some of you?

01:16:07.000 I want you to do whatever you want to do.

01:16:10.000 And before he does that, give me a blessing.

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01:17:43.000 Look, it gets lonely and tiring out there when you have every major power center at times coming after you personally and also organizationally, trying to crush you, trying to demoralize you, to be able to look at you guys and see you show up on a weeknight like this and you want to learn and you want to get informed and you want to get enthused.

01:18:03.000 It's a real special thing.

01:18:05.000 And all of you are participants, not spectators.

01:18:08.000 You're participants in this incredibly unique moment and this movement of the rebirth of the citizen, of the American individual that says, I'm going to do my part.

01:18:21.000 I'm going to do something.

01:18:22.000 And there's the people that help the fighters or the people that are the fighters, as Dennis Prager would say.

01:18:28.000 Be one of those people.

01:18:29.000 It might be a prayer warrior.

01:18:31.000 And you might say, Charlie, what can I do?

01:18:32.000 I'll give you a couple things to do.

01:18:34.000 You can go support our Turning Point USA chapter that's not far from here.

01:18:37.000 Have you brought them out to lunch?

01:18:38.000 Have you prayed for them?

01:18:39.000 Do you know their names?

01:18:40.000 Do you even know they exist?

01:18:41.000 That's something that might be easy.

01:18:42.000 How many young people are you currently mentoring right now?

01:18:45.000 That's an easy thing for a lot of people with idle time on your hands.

01:18:48.000 Are you praying and fasting for your nation at least once a month?

01:18:52.000 You know, all these different sorts of things are takeaway items, but I'm kind of preaching to the best church in America when I say this because you have a pastor that kind of tells you that every single month.

01:19:02.000 But I'm going to end with this, and then we'll call up Joseph to pray.

01:19:06.000 I made some predictions last year, and almost all of them have come true.

01:19:10.000 I'm going to make you some more predictions.

01:19:12.000 A couple.

01:19:13.000 That if we stay the course, we are on the verge of a revival and an awakening, the likes of which this country has never seen.

01:19:22.000 The next couple months, the next couple months, I'm telling you right now, they are going to empty the clip.

01:19:28.000 I'm telling you right now, they are going to make it seem darker and worse than ever before.

01:19:33.000 They are going to try to demoralize you the next 90 days because this is all they have.

01:19:37.000 But then, what is the night is always darkest before the dawn.

01:19:42.000 There's something that is happening in this country that you are all part of.

01:19:46.000 And a year from today, we are going to look back and there won't be 5 million families homeschooling.

01:19:51.000 There will be 10 million families homeschooled.

01:19:53.000 There will be a rebirth, and you guys are leading the charge for that.

01:19:57.000 God bless you guys.

01:19:58.000 And let's bring up Joseph Bondarenko.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - January 16, 2022

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