The Charlie Kirk Show - February 24, 2023


365 Days of Ukraine War


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Learn English with Charlie Kirk, the White House correspondent for Turning Point USA, a youth organization dedicated to fighting for freedom and human dignity. On this episode, Charlie talks about the Ukraine crisis and how he and other conservative commentators have been attacked for their opposition to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, we are one year into the Ukraine war.
00:00:03.000 What is America's national interest?
00:00:05.000 Why are we involved?
00:00:06.000 What does success look like?
00:00:07.000 These are important questions that we are not getting answers to.
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00:00:24.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:00:25.000 Here we go.
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00:01:08.000 It has been one year.
00:01:10.000 It has been one year since Russia invaded Ukraine.
00:01:14.000 From the very beginning, we were clear that it is immoral for a larger country, a stronger country, to invade a weaker country.
00:01:23.000 We were also clear from the very beginning that this is not America's fight.
00:01:28.000 Remember exactly where I was and what was happening when I heard the news.
00:01:32.000 I was flying to CPAC in Orlando.
00:01:34.000 It's a long flight, got very delayed, landed around 2 or 3 in the morning, and my phone was just lighting up.
00:01:41.000 Russia has done it. 0.88
00:01:42.000 They have gone for it.
00:01:43.000 They have invaded Ukraine.
00:01:46.000 And it was the number one news story at CPAC.
00:01:49.000 Everybody was talking about it at CPAC.
00:01:51.000 Every single media row booth I went to, every person I talked to, it was all about Russia invading Ukraine.
00:02:00.000 Charlie, what are your thoughts on Russia invading Ukraine?
00:02:02.000 And I was saying the same thing over and over again, but little did I realize I was saying something that was actually rather heterodox, contrarian.
00:02:10.000 I was saying that, look, this is not right, which we've been very clear about.
00:02:15.000 You shouldn't use your power just because you want more land.
00:02:18.000 Now, there is an argument that people make, and I think there is some truth to it, but I think it's largely overblown that Russia was provoked into doing this.
00:02:26.000 With that, all that being put aside, you shouldn't invade a smaller, weaker country, even if you are provoked.
00:02:32.000 But the provocation is definitely something that should be talked about.
00:02:36.000 Poking the Russian bear, Lindsey Graham, coming out and saying we're going to play offense against Moscow.
00:02:41.000 So here was my speech the day after the invasion.
00:02:44.000 And I was ridiculed.
00:02:48.000 I was attacked.
00:02:48.000 I was called a Putin puppet and a Russian agent.
00:02:51.000 Now, mind you, many conservative commentators who are now saying we shouldn't send money to Ukraine, they were flying the Ukrainian flag. 1.00
00:03:00.000 They were doing the BLM thing only with the Ukraine thing.
00:03:04.000 They were showing the Ukrainian marker.
00:03:06.000 And on this program, I can say I am very thankful for our team.
00:03:11.000 I'm very thankful for you, the audience, because we told the truth.
00:03:15.000 We told the truth the entire time.
00:03:18.000 We said, this is not a good idea.
00:03:19.000 We shouldn't get involved.
00:03:20.000 This is a quagmire.
00:03:21.000 What does success look like?
00:03:22.000 We asked those questions for a year.
00:03:25.000 We asked the tough questions from Senator Kramer from North Dakota over the summer.
00:03:29.000 What amount of money, how much is too much money in supplying Ukraine?
00:03:38.000 There is no limit, he told us on our program.
00:03:40.000 And here we are a year later.
00:03:42.000 I could say that we definitely played a small role.
00:03:46.000 Tucker played a very big role.
00:03:48.000 This is an unpopular war.
00:03:49.000 Only 24% of Americans a year later want to see more support for the Ukrainian cause against Russia.
00:03:57.000 We are a war-weary nation.
00:03:58.000 It's taken a year, but we saw it for what it was.
00:04:02.000 We knew the deep state, the defense industrial complex, the military-industrial complex.
00:04:07.000 This was my speech at CPAC a year ago, and I was, oh, I was mocked.
00:04:12.000 I was ridiculed.
00:04:13.000 I was attacked.
00:04:14.000 There were multiple articles that came out attacking me for the fact I said this.
00:04:19.000 How dare you?
00:04:21.000 The Greta Thunberg lookalikes told me in the media, play cut 116.
00:04:26.000 You see, we are a nation in multiple crises right now.
00:04:29.000 The U.S. southern border matters a lot more than the Ukrainian border.
00:04:34.000 Now, I'm not defending the actions of dictators halfway across the world.
00:04:38.000 What I'm saying, though, is when your own country has fallen apart, I don't want to hear lectures about why we need to send our troops halfway across the world when we are being invaded.
00:04:49.000 That's a thought crime.
00:04:50.000 You're not allowed to say that, especially on the precipice of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
00:04:57.000 That was the day after.
00:04:59.000 And I remember, oh, the text messages I got.
00:05:01.000 They said, oh, we're not being invaded and all this.
00:05:03.000 It turns out I think public opinion has shifted on that.
00:05:08.000 The Associated Press has a new article.
00:05:11.000 Ukraine aids support for Ukraine softens in a U.S. poll.
00:05:17.000 By the way, Janet Yellen, amongst others, have come out and they're saying that we got to send more money to Ukraine.
00:05:26.000 Janet Yellen, just this week, said that we're going to send another $10 billion in economic assistance to Ukraine.
00:05:33.000 Not $10 billion to East Palestine.
00:05:37.000 Not $10 billion to try to help solve the mental health crisis in our country.
00:05:44.000 Certainly not $10 billion to stop the invasion of our own border.
00:05:50.000 No, but instead, $10 billion to Ukraine.
00:05:55.000 Play cut 80.
00:05:57.000 Economic assistance is making Ukraine's resistance possible by supporting the home front, funding critical public services, and helping keep the government running.
00:06:08.000 In the coming months, we expect to provide around $10 billion in additional economic support for Ukraine. 0.99
00:06:17.000 They really think you're stupid. 0.99
00:06:20.000 $10 billion here, $10 billion here. 1.00
00:06:23.000 By the way, Republicans are some of the worst offenders here.
00:06:27.000 We actually do not know the number.
00:06:29.000 Do you know a year later, we actually do not have a precise number of how much money we have sent to Ukraine?
00:06:36.000 We do not have a precise number.
00:06:38.000 We have a range.
00:06:39.000 It's somewhere between $115 and $200 billion.
00:06:42.000 How is that possible?
00:06:43.000 Just pause for a second.
00:06:45.000 How do we not know the number?
00:06:47.000 How is it possible that when you are spending literally billions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars, you get approximations?
00:06:58.000 It's somewhere between this.
00:07:00.000 The CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, says it's $113 billion, but congressional leaders say it's as much as $200 billion.
00:07:07.000 So it's somewhere in the middle.
00:07:09.000 You got to have a little flex in the joints.
00:07:10.000 You got to have a lot of grease, a little bit of grease to be able to get the gears moving.
00:07:16.000 So it certainly makes you think, doesn't it?
00:07:18.000 It makes you wonder, why is Washington, D.C. and the regime so focused on this war in Ukraine?
00:07:27.000 Now, there's plenty of speculation about self-interest and the Democrat Party's ties to Ukraine.
00:07:35.000 And I do think that's somewhat interesting just from a 35,000-foot view.
00:07:41.000 Do you notice how Ukraine seems to be center stage, page 1A, of multiple major stories over the last few years?
00:07:52.000 Let me prove it to you.
00:07:54.000 Joe Biden, remember saying that I'm going to fire the prosecutor?
00:07:57.000 He's talking about the Ukrainian prosecutor.
00:08:00.000 Why did they impeach Donald Trump the first time for a phone call that he made to Zelensky?
00:08:08.000 A phone call, by the way, that was listened to by his own government.
00:08:11.000 I never got over that, by the way.
00:08:13.000 The fact that the national security apparatus is able to listen to phone calls from the commander-in-chief when he's trying to negotiate a diplomatic goal, somehow they're able to record that phone call and leak it and use it.
00:08:29.000 I never understood why that was acceptable.
00:08:32.000 But remember the entire impeachment trial with Alexander Vinman, who, by the way, is now soliciting the Ukrainian government as a defense contractor.
00:08:41.000 There is something about Ukraine that should have factored into our decision.
00:08:46.000 But obviously, Republicans say we have to fight Putin.
00:08:49.000 This is the most important proxy war since World War II.
00:08:54.000 You, their voters, think that this is getting wildly out of control.
00:09:00.000 This war is becoming less and less popular by the day.
00:09:03.000 Our predictions a year ago are coming true: that there will be no lid on the money.
00:09:10.000 We are on pace to spend a trillion dollars.
00:09:13.000 We are on pace to send a trillion dollars.
00:09:15.000 In fact, Ukraine is saying the World Bank has come out via Ukraine.
00:09:19.000 They said we need at least $350 billion to rebuild our country, at least minimum.
00:09:25.000 So, hey, America, you're going to have to pay for that.
00:09:28.000 Hey, get trains at work, a plane infrastructure that can get planes up into the sky, southern border that isn't porous economic assistance.
00:09:37.000 No, no, no, no.
00:09:38.000 What do you think?
00:09:38.000 You think you're Ukrainian?
00:09:40.000 The amount of Americans who believe the United States, I'm Republicans, I'm sorry, that give too much aid to Ukraine has steadily increased since March.
00:09:48.000 The popularity of the war is upside down.
00:09:50.000 I do want your thoughts, Freedom, at CharlieKirk.com because you're largely a conservative audience, but your Republican lawmakers are the most enthusiastic supporters, are some of the most enthusiastic supporters for this proxy war in Ukraine.
00:10:05.000 Why are they not listening to their voters?
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00:11:54.000 Jerry from Kentucky emailed us.
00:11:56.000 He said, Charlie, I've been following you for a couple of years from BLM to COVID to vaccines to Ukraine.
00:12:02.000 It seems like you're ahead of the curve.
00:12:04.000 Why is that?
00:12:05.000 And why do other commentators seem to follow the crowd?
00:12:09.000 Well, look, it's very simple.
00:12:10.000 It's because we follow a process.
00:12:12.000 It's a logical process.
00:12:14.000 You could call it the Socratic method.
00:12:16.000 You could just saying we're going to ask rational questions.
00:12:19.000 We also have an inherent distrust when the media and the government, celebrities, and private interests are all singing in harmony about the same issue at the same time.
00:12:34.000 And so we just, we've been asking the same questions from the beginning.
00:12:37.000 What is America's interest here?
00:12:40.000 Is Zelensky a good person?
00:12:42.000 Is it somebody worth protecting or supporting?
00:12:48.000 The same thing we asked the question, by the way, for ivermectin or for hydroxychloroquine or for treatments.
00:12:57.000 And so here's another very simple question: Has the risk of nuclear war increased or decreased because of our involvement in the proxy war?
00:13:07.000 Should we care more about our southern border or more about a foreign border?
00:13:14.000 Is Ukraine in our national interest? 0.93
00:13:18.000 Is Ukraine an ally?
00:13:21.000 That's an honest question.
00:13:23.000 Do they treat us like an ally?
00:13:24.000 I was asking for money.
00:13:24.000 We never got anything from them.
00:13:26.000 Is Ukraine corrupt?
00:13:28.000 Without a doubt.
00:13:29.000 Is Ukraine a bastion of freedom and liberty?
00:13:34.000 Not really.
00:13:35.000 They clamp down on opposition parties.
00:13:38.000 They restrict freedom increased newspapers.
00:13:41.000 They shut down churches.
00:13:43.000 So again, I ask the question without abstractions and without mentioning World War II.
00:13:49.000 Can you do this without mentioning World War II?
00:13:51.000 Because not everything is like World War II.
00:13:52.000 And let me take a second to address this.
00:13:55.000 The most common talking point that I receive in favor of America's role to support Ukraine against Vladimir Putin is immediately saying, Charlie, you're Neville Chamberlain and Vladimir Putin is Hitler.
00:14:10.000 Let's put that to the test.
00:14:12.000 Now, we've been very clear: Putin is not a good person.
00:14:16.000 In fact, some of you don't like it when I say that.
00:14:18.000 You've emailed me, freedom at charliekirk.com defending Putin.
00:14:22.000 It's not true.
00:14:22.000 I'm not going to do that.
00:14:23.000 He's not a good person. 0.99
00:14:24.000 He's a gangster. 1.00
00:14:24.000 He's a thug. 1.00
00:14:25.000 He also could be a very helpful thug against the CCP. 0.99
00:14:28.000 He's not a thug we should be fighting.
00:14:30.000 He's a thug that we should be neutral with and possibly even a soft ally with in the broader global picture.
00:14:36.000 But you have to know who you're dealing with.
00:14:38.000 This is not somebody that I would overly trust.
00:14:42.000 And invading Ukraine is wrong, period. 0.77
00:14:46.000 There is no spin you can offer to me that makes me think otherwise.
00:14:52.000 But just because that is wrong does not necessitate a couple things.
00:14:55.000 Is this the same situation as World War II?
00:14:58.000 Now, Tom Holland is a terrific historian.
00:15:02.000 He has a new book out called Dominion, where he talks about the Christian inheritance of the West.
00:15:08.000 He said something recently in an interview that really stood out.
00:15:11.000 He said, Americans and Westerners reference World War II way too much in their politics.
00:15:18.000 He said, World War II is obviously really important. 0.75
00:15:21.000 He said, but it creates fragile paradigms and really false premises.
00:15:30.000 The argument he was making in so many words is that not everything is World War II.
00:15:36.000 World War I said differently, World War II creates lots of bad understandings of international relations.
00:15:45.000 One of the main reasons is I think we do not properly appreciate Hitler's luck. 0.96
00:15:55.000 Yes, Hitler was a madman. 0.99
00:15:57.000 He was insane. 1.00
00:15:58.000 He developed new forms of military technology and forms of warfare.
00:16:04.000 But I think some of that is largely overblown, especially with his invasion of France.
00:16:11.000 He was just lucky.
00:16:13.000 It's like rolling the dice six times and you get snake eyes every time. 0.85
00:16:18.000 France had more men, had more tanks, and Hitler was just crazy enough to try to hit it. 0.76
00:16:24.000 And it just so happens he hit snake eyes six times in a row.
00:16:30.000 Now, why is that important?
00:16:31.000 Well, it's important because that's actually an important, that's a critical wrinkle as to is Hitler and Putin the same person?
00:16:40.000 I don't think Putin is necessarily rational in every decision, but he has shown and demonstrated some extraordinary restraint.
00:16:48.000 And the media loses their mind when I say this.
00:16:51.000 We bombed their pipeline.
00:16:54.000 Do you want me to prove to you that Putin is restrained?
00:16:57.000 Do you want me to prove to you that Putin does not want war against the West?
00:17:03.000 Joe Biden called Vladimir Putin before he took a train to Kyiv.
00:17:09.000 If you really thought Vladimir Putin was a madman and you really thought that he was Adolf Hitler, would you take a train to Kyiv and give him a heads up that you were going there?
00:17:20.000 No, the West in Washington, D.C. know that he is not Hitler, but they use that as a reason to try to justify your support of this proxy war.
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00:19:41.000 Let me just conclude the argument I was making and then I want to dive deeper into the Ukrainian-Russian situation and ask the question, if we were even to win the proxy war, what are you going to do at the country?
00:19:51.000 Do you really want to be in charge of a place like Ukraine?
00:19:54.000 Like, that's a very, very simple question.
00:19:58.000 So, well, be careful for what you want.
00:20:00.000 It would be called a Pyrrhic victory, which is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it's basically a defeat, similar to Afghanistan or Iraq. 0.70
00:20:12.000 Okay, but we talk about World War II way too much.
00:20:16.000 And I'm guilty of this.
00:20:17.000 I talk about Churchill all the time.
00:20:19.000 I talk about D-Day.
00:20:20.000 I talk about Pearl Harbor.
00:20:22.000 And I think there's a lot of reason for this.
00:20:23.000 I think World War II is legitimately one of the most incredible, one of the most dramatic, multi-continent, multiplayer, good versus evil moments in all of geopolitical and military history.
00:20:42.000 Really, nothing comes close to it.
00:20:44.000 World War I was an awful war.
00:20:47.000 It was messy.
00:20:48.000 It was dirty.
00:20:52.000 Lots of casualties, chemical weapons, trench warfare.
00:20:58.000 World War II was obviously messy, too.
00:21:00.000 It's not to say that one war was messy and one wasn't the other, but World War II had public dynamic players from Stalin to Mussolini to Hitler to Franklin Delano Roosevelt to Churchill.
00:21:13.000 I mean, you have almost a central casting there that makes it very interesting, easy to track.
00:21:20.000 Unlimited amounts of movies have been made about it, books, research papers, people talk about it a lot.
00:21:26.000 But not everything that happens today can be accurately compared to what happened in World War II.
00:21:36.000 And this is really important because NATO and the post-World War II order was an outgrowth of what happened in the late 1930s and early 1940s.
00:21:51.000 One of which, which is very important, is this idea of deterrence and trying to never appease the person that you hate.
00:21:59.000 Let me be very clear: Hitler was someone you should never, ever get close to appeasement with.
00:22:05.000 That was the right strategy.
00:22:06.000 But Putin is not him.
00:22:08.000 He just isn't. 0.99
00:22:10.000 Yes, he's a bad person.
00:22:11.000 No, he's not even close, not even in the same realm, not even in the same dimension of the evil that we saw in the attempted rise of the Third Reich in the 1930s.
00:22:24.000 And it's a sloppy comparison, and they use it to try to get themselves power.
00:22:33.000 Now they say, well, Charlie, you know, Adolf Hitler wanted to recombine the former Rhineland, the former German, the German lands and German-speaking people.
00:22:47.000 Doesn't Putin want to do the same thing?
00:22:49.000 That doesn't make him unique.
00:22:51.000 Almost every leader that gets into power wants to try to combine lands they think that is theirs.
00:22:57.000 Okay?
00:22:58.000 Xi Jiping wants to do it right now in China.
00:23:01.000 Heck, America, we fought lands over our territories too of things that we thought were ours.
00:23:07.000 I want to play a piece of tape here of Mersheimer, a professor.
00:23:11.000 We've played this a couple times on our program, and he accurately predicted six years ago why we should not get involved in Ukraine and Russia.
00:23:21.000 And again, if you are in support of giving Zelensky money, if you are in support of the war in Ukraine, I want you to send me an email, freedom at charliekirk.com, and tell me why, but you're not allowed to reference World War II.
00:23:37.000 Give me a moral or historical argument without mentioning World War II.
00:23:43.000 Play cut 121.
00:23:45.000 But I actually think that what's going on here is that the West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path. 0.57
00:23:52.000 And the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked. 0.91
00:23:57.000 And I believe that the policy that I'm advocating, which is neutralizing Ukraine and then building it up economically and getting it out of the competition between Russia on one side and NATO on the other side, is the best thing that could happen to the Ukrainians. 0.95
00:24:10.000 What we're doing is encouraging the Ukrainians to play tough with the Russians. 1.00
00:24:15.000 We're encouraging the Ukrainians to think that they will ultimately become part of the West because we will ultimately defeat Putin and we will ultimately get our way.
00:24:25.000 Time is on our side.
00:24:26.000 And how much would it cost to rebuild Ukraine?
00:24:29.000 No, American taxpayers are going to have to shoulder this.
00:24:31.000 Play cut 120, World Bank predicting the cost to rebuild Ukraine will be $350 billion, minimum.
00:24:39.000 Play cut $120.
00:24:41.000 But in the last year, the United States has already provided $32 billion in military aid, $13 billion in economic assistance to keep the bills paid, and nearly $2 billion in humanitarian assistance.
00:24:53.000 In all, Congress has greenlit $113 billion for Ukraine through September.
00:25:00.000 $113 billion.
00:25:03.000 And not a single lawmaker can come on this program and tell me why this is in our immediate national interest.
00:25:13.000 Why?
00:25:14.000 And the argument that my friend Dr. Gorka made on this program when we had a dialogue about this, he said, well, it's their 1776 moment.
00:25:21.000 I don't think that's true, but let's pretend that is true.
00:25:24.000 Is that still in our immediate national security interest?
00:25:28.000 And by the way, we're going to be the one left holding the country.
00:25:32.000 We're going to have to subsidize their rebuilding.
00:25:34.000 We're going to have to have a Ukrainian infrastructure project.
00:25:38.000 You break it, you buy it.
00:25:40.000 You know, it's really funny.
00:25:41.000 There was this expression that the neocons, and I just call them neoliberals now, used to make all the time.
00:25:47.000 And they said, well, you know, at Creighton Beryl, if you break it, you buy it.
00:25:55.000 This was their justification of rebuilding Iraq. 0.61
00:25:58.000 This is the lack, this is the sophistication of thinking in the neoliberal, neoconservative community.
00:26:04.000 I am not kidding.
00:26:05.000 You could fact-check me on this.
00:26:06.000 They actually cited Creighton Beryl.
00:26:08.000 And one of the most delicious and hilarious public relations responses was Creighton Beryl saying, yeah, that's not our policy.
00:26:19.000 All of these apparatches from Bill Crystal to the Weekly Standard was like, well, you know, just like they say at Creighton Beryl, if you break it, you buy it.
00:26:29.000 So you invade Iraq, you got to rebuild it.
00:26:31.000 And then Creighton Beryl comes back and they're like, yeah, that's actually not our policy.
00:26:36.000 You guys just made that up.
00:26:38.000 But we got to be very clear, though.
00:26:41.000 While Putin was wrong in invading Ukraine, we led him straight to the line.
00:26:46.000 We led him.
00:26:47.000 We invited him to the line.
00:26:50.000 The Minsk agreements were betrayed.
00:26:54.000 NATO expansionism poked the Russia bear.
00:26:59.000 Ukrainian neutrality, somehow not being on the table, that pushed it.
00:27:07.000 And we refused to negotiate at all.
00:27:10.000 Remember this?
00:27:10.000 This is Lindsey Graham with Amy Klobuchar and John McCain.
00:27:16.000 This was 2016.
00:27:18.000 This was seven years ago.
00:27:19.000 Seven years ago.
00:27:20.000 This was not frontline news.
00:27:23.000 This was December of 2016.
00:27:25.000 So like six years ago.
00:27:26.000 Yeah, okay.
00:27:27.000 Six and a half years ago.
00:27:29.000 Lindsey Graham and John McCain were in Ukraine.
00:27:34.000 And if you are Putin and you hear American senators talking like this, how on earth would you respond?
00:27:44.000 Play cut 122.
00:27:46.000 Your fight is our fight.
00:27:47.000 2017 will be the year of offense.
00:27:50.000 All of us will go back to Washington and we will push the case against Russia.
00:27:56.000 Enough of a Russian aggression. 0.90
00:27:58.000 It is time for them to pay a heavier price.
00:28:02.000 Now, let's remember some important context here of Lady Graham saying that.
00:28:06.000 We're going to push the case against Russia.
00:28:10.000 What happened just a couple months after that?
00:28:13.000 Donald Trump had a special counsel appointed against him, alleging that Russia interfered and manipulated the 2016 presidential election.
00:28:24.000 Is that a coincidence?
00:28:27.000 I don't know.
00:28:28.000 I believe firmly to get public opinion against Russia, they had to lie about Russia's involvement in the 2016 presidential campaign to try to get Americans to unnecessarily hate Russia because they didn't like Trump, but they wanted to say if it wasn't for Russia, Trump would not be president.
00:28:50.000 So then there's Lady Graham saying, we're going to go back to D.C. and build the case against Russia.
00:28:56.000 And 90 days later, Donald Trump has Robert Mueller looking into Russian interference in the Trump campaign.
00:29:05.000 That's very strange, isn't it?
00:29:09.000 And here he is.
00:29:09.000 I want you to imagine for a second.
00:29:11.000 You're not allowed to say this because the media gets really upset about it.
00:29:15.000 Imagine if a KGB agent, or let's just say a Russian equivalent of a senator, went to Mexico City.
00:29:25.000 Imagine if he went to Mexico City and was around the cartels and he said, your fight is our fight.
00:29:32.000 We are going to go back to Moscow and we are going to push the case against America.
00:29:37.000 We're going to give you weapons.
00:29:38.000 We're going to give you armaments.
00:29:40.000 We're going to give you support.
00:29:43.000 How do you think Americans would respond to that?
00:29:45.000 How do you think our government would respond to an adversary going to a neighboring country and saber-rattling like that? 0.99
00:29:56.000 The Chinese Communist Party, they are evil. 0.98
00:30:02.000 And they have issued, though, a 12-point plan to end the war in Ukraine. 0.76
00:30:07.000 They're calling for peace.
00:30:08.000 Biden doesn't want peace.
00:30:09.000 No, no, no, no.
00:30:09.000 Biden is bought by the security state.
00:30:11.000 He's being held hostile by the security state, especially with his document issues.
00:30:15.000 So he just does whatever they want.
00:30:16.000 And so they deployed Biden to be nothing more than a mirror of the needs, wants, and concerns of the CIA and FBI.
00:30:23.000 Isn't that interesting?
00:30:24.000 We haven't heard about Biden's document issue in a couple of weeks.
00:30:27.000 Isn't that something?
00:30:28.000 There's a reason for that.
00:30:28.000 They're going to bury it.
00:30:29.000 It'll be going to the distance.
00:30:31.000 Nothing, by the way, on Hunter Biden.
00:30:34.000 They're using all those things as leverage to get Joe Biden to get us closer to a war, a very, very hot war in Ukraine.
00:30:41.000 Washington, D.C. military elite would love nothing more than that.
00:30:45.000 They are just licking their chops.
00:30:48.000 So there's a 12-point plan that China has issued.
00:30:53.000 Now, look, you could call it full of lies.
00:30:55.000 You could say it's disingenuous.
00:30:57.000 But the fact that China is being more vocal about a peace plan proposal than the United States is a disgrace.
00:31:07.000 And U.S. taxpayers are footing the bill for this prolonged war.
00:31:12.000 Now, of course, China does not mention that Russia invaded a sovereign country because that would then jeopardize their soon military incursion of Taiwan, the beautiful isle.
00:31:29.000 It is literally Taiwan is known as, is actually used to be called by the Portuguese, if I remember correctly, the Isle Isla de Hermosa, if I remember correctly, the beautiful island.
00:31:40.000 And it is a gorgeous island.
00:31:41.000 And by the way, you got to be careful, China. 0.94
00:31:43.000 Do you really want Taiwan?
00:31:45.000 That is not going to be easy.
00:31:46.000 Invading an island is hard enough, let alone just the geographics, the geography, I'm sorry, the geography of Taiwan.
00:31:54.000 From what I understand, never being there, thousand-foot cliffs leading up.
00:31:59.000 I don't know if they, we'll see how sophisticated the Chinese military is.
00:32:02.000 Maybe more than we realize.
00:32:03.000 However, China now has this 12-point plan.
00:32:07.000 And they're basically calling for a ceasefire in eastern Ukraine.
00:32:12.000 Now, why would China be doing this? 0.97
00:32:16.000 Well, China is close with Russia because we decided to put them as partners, because we are fools. 1.00
00:32:24.000 To be honest, we're just fools. 0.99
00:32:27.000 And Russia probably wants peace. 0.98
00:32:29.000 So Russia wants peace.
00:32:30.000 China wants peace.
00:32:32.000 Not America. 0.89
00:32:33.000 We want war. 0.98
00:32:35.000 China says this.
00:32:36.000 Again, you got to take this with a pound of salt, not just a green assault, because it's the Chinese Communist Party. 0.69
00:32:40.000 They say we should respect the sovereignty of all countries.
00:32:42.000 Yeah, unless it's Taiwan.
00:32:44.000 Abandoning the Cold War mentality.
00:32:46.000 Okay, sure.
00:32:46.000 Ceasing hostilities, resuming peace talks.
00:32:49.000 This one, I totally agree with.
00:32:50.000 Why are there not active peace talks between Zelensky and Putin brokered by America?
00:32:57.000 Don't have Macron, okay?
00:32:58.000 Macron is a waste of time.
00:33:00.000 That guy has zero presence, okay? 0.55
00:33:03.000 And no offense to the wonderful French people, not exactly the best trek record in the last hundred years.
00:33:08.000 Okay, so France can be put aside.
00:33:10.000 It should be America front and center trying to negotiate this peace.
00:33:14.000 No, instead, we're trying to prop up a neoliberal project for reasons that are not in the best interest of our country.
00:33:25.000 China then says we have to resolve the humanitarian crisis, protect civilians and prisoners of war, right?
00:33:30.000 Sure.
00:33:30.000 Keep the nuclear power plant safe, reduce strategic risk, facilitating grain exports, stop unilateral sanctions, keeping industrial and supply chains stable, promoting post-conflict reconstruction.
00:33:41.000 Okay, I don't think the CCP believes any of this, but the CCP did this for a different reason.
00:33:45.000 Do you know why they did this?
00:33:46.000 They did not do this because of Russia.
00:33:49.000 They did this to humiliate us.
00:33:52.000 The Chinese Communist Party did this as an open memo, an open letter to the rest of the world to say there is a new leader of the world.
00:34:02.000 This used to be our role.
00:34:03.000 Our government isn't doing this.
00:34:04.000 The failed punk rocker Tony Blinken is too busy apologizing for being racist.
00:34:10.000 Joe Biden is doing whatever the security state tells him to do.
00:34:12.000 This used to be our role.
00:34:14.000 China doesn't mean any. 0.85
00:34:16.000 This is all a bunch of nonsense and gibberish and balderdash.
00:34:18.000 What they do mean, and what they're clear about is we're in charge.
00:34:24.000 And I guarantee you, this is plastered all over the countries they control in sub-Saharan Africa.
00:34:29.000 This is plastered all over the countries they control in South America.
00:34:33.000 That makes the Chinese Communist Party look like peacemakers, not war makers. 0.94
00:34:38.000 Isn't that something?
00:34:40.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden is calling for an increase.
00:34:42.000 Janet Yellen is calling it for an increase.
00:34:45.000 No, this is not about peace.
00:34:46.000 It's not about the CCP wanting the conflict to end.
00:34:50.000 It's about showing the rest of the world that a page has been turned and that they're in charge and America is no longer.
00:34:59.000 Statesmanship would be nice, but our government has zero desire to end this war in Ukraine.
00:35:05.000 That's a tragedy.
00:35:08.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:10.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:13.000 Thank you so much for listening and God bless.
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